So great to see an E30 M10 getting some love! I'm building one myself. Everyone says "that's stupid, just swap in an M20 and be done with it" which is exactly the motivation I need to keep and build up the M10. It looks like you were dealing with some oversteer there. Do you think that was just from the power, or was it from rear suspension setup? I'm not an expert, just curious as I continue getting my car ready and was pondering whether a rear sway addition (which the 318i did not come with from the factory) would help. Or if that would push the car toward an oversteer condition.
The m10 engine can do realy good. I've had a lot of long faces when people that I have passed comes to see what I've got under the hood! I did not have the best tires, and it had 15 years old bilstein springs and dampers. Extra camber in front and a sway bar kit. It felt like it was extra slippery that day, maybe tire pressure/temperatures or something was off.
@@02ole Gotcha - looks like you were still having a great day out there regardless! Yeah, I know the M10 isn't the cheapest engine to build up, but it's more unexpected and I like that. I did the same with my recent Ford build - I built up an FE big block which, if I had put the same money into a Chevy LS I could have had 2x the power, but then I'd just have another LS-swapped Ford.
Ole, vennligst fortell om ditt bremsesystem fra hvilken bil og modell tok du hjulene og tykkelsen ???? Jeg liker prosjektet veldig mye, det er godt laget, jeg så på alt du gjorde med E-30. Svar, vær så snill!
Nice car man, ive got e30 too, tho slightly weaker :D, ive got m52tub28 in it, and i am beginner at track days... I went only twice so far, and had shitty tires... could you tell me what tires did you track on? i thought of giving federal rsr a go, but after ive read your comment, i have second thoughts... i never drove on any semislick tires so far, so if you could share your experience, it would be pure gold for me :) I thought of 595 rs-r and pro, toyo r888r, nankang ns2r, now im thinking avon zzr... any thoughts?
3 inch stainless all the way, and a "apple mufflers" multi frequency 3 inch muffler in the rear. www.minges.no/products/multi-frequency-3- That muffler is known for wery good sound dampening. And ist still good after many years with lots of air and heat going through it.
Both are Tial. Had both from turbonetics first. But the BOV didnt keep closed under pressure, and the WG broke. Tial q 50mm BOV and Tial MVR 44mm wastegate.
Hey bro! Did you use your E30 M10 block for your build? Some guy is telling me the head studs are gonna crack out of the block because the E30 block is weaker?
I thought the difference in the blocks was reinforcements on the inside in the lower part of the block. I have used both e30 block from 1986 and 2002 block from 1974 with no issues.
Hey 02LE. Have another one for you. I know you aren't running the stock trans but what clutch and flywheel are you running? I was thinking about running a lightened stock flywheel with a Cluitchmasters clutch but Im afraid it might affect it on the street. Thoughts?
I'm using a m30 flywheel, from a e28 528i. It only weighs 5,8kg and is 240mm. The getrag 240 (318i) gearbox will not fit anymore, because of too small clutch housing. I had a 4 puck sinter earlier, but changed it for a 6 puck. 6 puck is much easier to drive with. The pressure plate is a stronger one made by sachs.
@@02ole yeah I am going with Clutchmasters FX-350 per their recommendation. I had a 6 puck in a car in the past and didn't like the "lightswitch" on'off clutch pedal on the street. The FX350 is similar but still full-face and shouldn't chatter. I'm still debating doing the lightened flywheel though.
@@02ole Tell me more about this transmission swap you did. You did a 6 speed ZF? What is it out of? How did you adapt it to the small M10 bellhousing bolt pattern?
@@02ole I DO like the block location since it drains SO perfectly straight down but Im going to try timing cover first to play it safe. Worst case I can always get a new timing cover. The block is a major deal lol. I would rather try that with the engine out anyway.
@@DiegoHernandez-po2it you will have to make a harness. Buy a aftermarket ecu with flying lead and have someone help you with the install if you need to.
@@DiegoHernandez-po2it My ecu is a 20 year old autronic sm4, so I would not buy that today. I would recomend a maxxecu street premium, it comes with ecu, harness, accessories and wideband lambda.
Why? Thats because he is faster than me. He's got better tires and suspension, so I am slower in the corners but faster in a straigt line. So I let of the gas so he could pass easily.
I have a lot of respect on your build! I allways come back to this video every one or two years. Legend!
M10 is one of the most successful bmw engines
Nice work !
Sounds smooth for a 4 banger :)
sounds amazing, love the clean gauge setup in the airvent area
whys this so smooth. Goddamn.
Looks soo fun !
So great to see an E30 M10 getting some love! I'm building one myself. Everyone says "that's stupid, just swap in an M20 and be done with it" which is exactly the motivation I need to keep and build up the M10.
It looks like you were dealing with some oversteer there. Do you think that was just from the power, or was it from rear suspension setup? I'm not an expert, just curious as I continue getting my car ready and was pondering whether a rear sway addition (which the 318i did not come with from the factory) would help. Or if that would push the car toward an oversteer condition.
The m10 engine can do realy good. I've had a lot of long faces when people that I have passed comes to see what I've got under the hood!
I did not have the best tires, and it had 15 years old bilstein springs and dampers. Extra camber in front and a sway bar kit. It felt like it was extra slippery that day, maybe tire pressure/temperatures or something was off.
@@02ole Gotcha - looks like you were still having a great day out there regardless!
Yeah, I know the M10 isn't the cheapest engine to build up, but it's more unexpected and I like that. I did the same with my recent Ford build - I built up an FE big block which, if I had put the same money into a Chevy LS I could have had 2x the power, but then I'd just have another LS-swapped Ford.
Ole, vennligst fortell om ditt bremsesystem fra hvilken bil og modell tok du hjulene og tykkelsen ???? Jeg liker prosjektet veldig mye, det er godt laget, jeg så på alt du gjorde med E-30. Svar, vær så snill!
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Which camshaft you use? how much degrees of lift?
Is there somewhere you can show how you assemble the engine? thank you :)
can u upload a pic of ur motor plz. got same car same engine. need some advice
what set up do you have
nice laps man! what steering rack are you using? thanks!
Jeff D stamdard e46 rack
How has this been for reliability ?
Is that m3 cut you off?
Nice car man, ive got e30 too, tho slightly weaker :D, ive got m52tub28 in it, and i am beginner at track days... I went only twice so far, and had shitty tires... could you tell me what tires did you track on? i thought of giving federal rsr a go, but after ive read your comment, i have second thoughts... i never drove on any semislick tires so far, so if you could share your experience, it would be pure gold for me :)
I thought of 595 rs-r and pro, toyo r888r, nankang ns2r, now im thinking avon zzr... any thoughts?
I have bought toyo r888r, but I have not tried them yet. Federal rsr is cheap and okay, but a lot of cars was faster in the corners.
@@02ole Thanks man, keep us posted :)
Hey 02ole, what exhaust are you running on the car? I love how quiet it is. I am looking for very similar.
3 inch stainless all the way, and a "apple mufflers" multi frequency 3 inch muffler in the rear. www.minges.no/products/multi-frequency-3-
That muffler is known for wery good sound dampening. And ist still good after many years with lots of air and heat going through it.
@@02ole perfect! Thanks so much man!
100-200 sec ??
Hey 02ole. What Blow-Off Valve did you end up running? Also what wastegate?
Both are Tial. Had both from turbonetics first. But the BOV didnt keep closed under pressure, and the WG broke. Tial q 50mm BOV and Tial MVR 44mm wastegate.
Hey bro! Did you use your E30 M10 block for your build? Some guy is telling me the head studs are gonna crack out of the block because the E30 block is weaker?
I thought the difference in the blocks was reinforcements on the inside in the lower part of the block. I have used both e30 block from 1986 and 2002 block from 1974 with no issues.
Hey 02LE. Have another one for you. I know you aren't running the stock trans but what clutch and flywheel are you running? I was thinking about running a lightened stock flywheel with a Cluitchmasters clutch but Im afraid it might affect it on the street. Thoughts?
I'm using a m30 flywheel, from a e28 528i. It only weighs 5,8kg and is 240mm. The getrag 240 (318i) gearbox will not fit anymore, because of too small clutch housing. I had a 4 puck sinter earlier, but changed it for a 6 puck. 6 puck is much easier to drive with. The pressure plate is a stronger one made by sachs.
@@02ole yeah I am going with Clutchmasters FX-350 per their recommendation. I had a 6 puck in a car in the past and didn't like the "lightswitch" on'off clutch pedal on the street. The FX350 is similar but still full-face and shouldn't chatter. I'm still debating doing the lightened flywheel though.
@@02ole I should get in touch with you another way and send you pics of my 318. You won't believe it. 17 thousand original miles lmao
@@02ole Tell me more about this transmission swap you did. You did a 6 speed ZF? What is it out of? How did you adapt it to the small M10 bellhousing bolt pattern?
@@HaterPowered It's an e39 m5 v8 gearbox, cut and welded to a m30 bellhousing.
Beautiful!! I am about to turbo mine. Forged pistons, rods and proper rocker arms could hold 300hp? With 600cc injectors and standalone ecu?
That will hold 300hp easy!
@@02ole appreciate you!
@@02ole any gearbox recommendations?
@@Nikolayski1337 For 300hp I suppose any gearbox will do. But a gearbox for a m30 is stronger if you need that.
It's me again! lol. So, your turbo drain. I am trying to decide where to tap mine. Where did you end up going? Block or timing cover?
Mine is in the block. But it doesn't matter really. It may be safer to modify the timing cover.
@@02ole I DO like the block location since it drains SO perfectly straight down but Im going to try timing cover first to play it safe. Worst case I can always get a new timing cover. The block is a major deal lol. I would rather try that with the engine out anyway.
Very good build!
I read your forum topic but could you say what rod lenght do you use (135 or 144mm) and what is your compression ratio?
Thanks
Thanks! They are 135mm and CP pistons. 8,4:1.
How did you tune it? I’ve been thinking about boosting my 84 318i and tuning it and throwing a stand-alone ecu is my biggest concern
Aftermarket ecu is the way to go!
@@02ole is there a plug and play kit or did you have to build the harness?
@@DiegoHernandez-po2it you will have to make a harness. Buy a aftermarket ecu with flying lead and have someone help you with the install if you need to.
@@02ole can I get a link to the ecu that you used?
@@DiegoHernandez-po2it My ecu is a 20 year old autronic sm4, so I would not buy that today. I would recomend a maxxecu street premium, it comes with ecu, harness, accessories and wideband lambda.
c'est un 320 de base non ?. car je voit le check control ^^ vraiment simpa sa donne envie
Det skjønner jeg ikke noe av
Looks seriously quick. But why are the others driving like it's Sunday?
e30 owners rip it harder and faster then everyone else always I've learned
there's no point fighting for position in a public event.
What size injectors are you running?
They are 990cc, and I only run on regular petrol. So I can fill it everywhere.
what diff are you running
188 3,64:1 with 4 cluch discs
How (why) did the e30 m3 pass ??
Why? Thats because he is faster than me. He's got better tires and suspension, so I am slower in the corners but faster in a straigt line. So I let of the gas so he could pass easily.
@@02ole is the m3 also turbo charged?
@@maximiliangottschalk4600 No, it's got a s54 CSL spec NA engine
How much boost?
It has 380whp at 1,5 bar/22 psi
What transmission?
e39 m5, 6 speed
It bolted right up to the M10? modifications needed?
Same question , is it bolted only or needs modifications?
@@colinstu I had to cut of the v8 cluch housing, and weld on a housing that fits m10. So yeah, big modifications needed.
What turbo size is in?
Presicion 5858
@@02ole Thanks for all your replies. Amazing build.
Specs??
Big brakes, cheap tires, cheap suspension, limited slip diff, 6 speed gearbox and 2 liter, 4 cyl, 8 valve m10 engine with forged internals, turbo cam and turbo.
No specifics?
Mitchum Pacifico Federal rsr tires, 235/40-17. PFC 11 compound brake pads, 360mm/3500mm brake discs
02ole were did you found the forged internals? Turbo cam from?
I bought it from pure-pf.com. Cp pistons, h-rods and enem turbo cam