Super disappointed that the M5 driver did not release the DSC system. You can clearly see the M5 drop / fall on its face with every gearshift as a DSC system muted the throttle due to wet pavement. As an e39 M5 owner, my M5 records a 1/4 mile of 13.2 @ 108mph - STOCK. Love the video of older sports sedan getting live - ty. Do more of these, but make sure drivers know the quirks of these cars.
Yeah I had one 10 years ago and that traction control was so savage in a launch situation, it basically slams the brakes on for you and cuts all power for at least 1 second.
yep, sounds about right. When I had mine, you could easily spin tire in the 2-3 shift. Turning DSC off was mandatory. Also, it seemed like all 3 of these cars needed to be maintained a bunch and not be garage queens. I replaced 10 sensors on mine and it was like night and day.
@@dillanmistry even today I can tell you the build quality on these E39's are better than the F10's, I had a E39 530d, currently have a 550 F10, and the sheer effort BMW put into those machines is astounding, even the E46 compared with it's predecessors just feels so much more solid, especially compared to the E90 series.
@@blancA4blanc stick? You mean manual? That M5 has some drivetrain issues. Wonder if that gearbox and clutch have actually been serviced. My 330d doesn't even bog down like that, just shows there's some shoddy maintenance going on there
@@bzilla-d4i So true! the 530i out weigh all of the ones above, even after 200k miles they still purr like a bird but these f10s cant go a century of miles without a new timing chain , you can trust an e39/e46 for long term and when you jump in one of them after being in a newer bmw, even if its slower, it feels miles better, more fun, cool and timeless!
The v8s is more expensive not just because of the extra cc and hp but because it's a very limited edition car being one of only 88 built so it's a collectors item if you're into Alpinas. The holy grail for alpina collectors is the B6 3.5S which was an E30 m3 body with an alpina 3.5 straight 6 shoved in it mated to a manual gearbox only 62 of those were built if I remember correctly. B10 V8S is a gem.
@@paulsachs9983 the DSC was unusually unobtrusive on that one - I tried with it off on a practise run and it was the worst of all worlds. To overcome the dead spot in the engine's power curve I needed more throttle than normal to launch the car and was getting wheelsman, followed by no power. With DSC on I was able to get away with using more throttle and keeping the rpm in a better power band but the engine was still struggling a bit.. It was unusual I agree
It's quite an easy explanation. The traction control was still on. See 5:25 , that is the m5's speedometer. You can see the little yellow light flashing. In those cars, there is no launch control, the computer just pulled the power if there was spin. Kind of on off system
@@matthewslabber372 Yeah I have an E39 M5 and the traction control is completely unusable. It's practically like an on/off switch in this generation of BMW. If they did indeed leave the DSC on during these races in the wet, it's no wonder the car was lurching like that.
@@snapwithchance I like to hear the engine, exhaust noice does nothing to me, but that’s why we have Alpina’s and M’s so there is a choice for everyone 😁
Some say he once baked a cake using nothing but engine oil and a refrigerator, and that the only thing that terrifies him are the curtains at James May's house.
BMW e39 M5 is my favourite car, ever. My late father had e39 530d and I was always in love with the way it looked, how it felt to drive the car and especially after driving the M5 version - I was in love. So yeah, thank you Carwow & Matt, this was an awesome video for me to remind how much I love this car.
@@darenzy But the DSC was definetly on. You can see the yellow warning light blinking in the middle of the tachometer as he launches. So he probably could have launched a lot better.
Before watching the race itself and without caring for the result, just a massive thank you. All your videos are great to watch but this one really hits where it counts! Thank you
One of my great regrets is getting rid of my E39 M5....with a stage 1 Dinan package (god that sounded good!). Only problem with the car is I couldn't sneak back home...the rumble of the engine was like an early warning system!
Ben Collins aka the Stig is by far the most charismatic and knowledgeable guest on Carwow. Frankly would rather have him on rather than that insufferable clout chasing knows-very-little about cars Yianni as a frequent guest in drag races. Ben's got tremendous pedigree and comes across almost as a gentleman-scholar on cars and their driving characteristics, all neatly presented in an erudite yet humble persona. In short: more Ben (and less Yianni) please!!
E39 have specific front axle geometry and its prone to wear lower control arms joints, which leeds to vibration while braking. Joints doesnt have to be loose and noisy, they are just worn and can rotate with even slight force. Great steering, but it has some disadvantages.
@@michalpalka1000 I agree! All suspension bushings in the control and thrust arms need to be replaced front and rear too as replacing some only can exacerbate issues in worn bushes and bearings. I also assume the recirculating ball steering boxes in the V8 cars makes an already sloppy feeling front set up feel just that much worse.
Amazing video, E39's are so classic, an M5 is a dream of mine. I have a 99' 540i 6 speed, 02' x5 4.6is, and 14' 550i xDrive (tuned to 700hp). Even though the 540i is the lowest power it is the most fun to drive. But it made me a bit sad that TC was left on, I know from experience it is so aggressive in that gen of car. Ben mentioned that even during the rolling race his gear changes had hesitation, I'd be willing to put my money on it flicker the TC on. As soon as it does that it just kills anything that was happening.
I had an e39 m5 10 years ago, that car will always hold a special place in my heart. It also had the rear muffler delete and it sounded insane. This video doesn't do it justice just how good they sound.
This time, the cinematography is superb. Even the coloured grain (maybe a byproduct of the late afternoon shooting because of the mechanical problems of the M5) is fantastic. Best drag race together with the one with Dani Pedrosa.
Yesssss quality again, same as the last video, love the mixing up the races and braking challenge, keep progressing and switching it up guys, I was watching the old drag races the other day and you've come a long way since then, but keep it coming and keep it fresh. Another 10/10 drag race video 👌👌👌
More drone shots, please! Thank you for the E39 shootout. Even 20 years after the look great! Now you need to compare it to an E55 and and RS6 from the same era.
One of the Greatest mass production cars ever made. Matt can we please get this race done again but this time on a dry day and filmed in the "MORNING".
Mine as well. Back in '04 I bought my first car: E39 528 manual from 97. Bought a E39 M5 in '08. I still own one E39. 530d m sport wagon. Not planning to sell it.
Been watching Matt for years now. I know for a fact he made this one for me 🥺. I shed a tear during the Customary Car Wow sound-check. Matt Watson, you sir, are a man amongst men 🙌
The guy driving the M5 is the worst shifter on the face of the planet!!! 🥴 Never seen a car jerk so badly between gears. All he has is excuses 😒 what car "drops" power after a change up.
My 5 series from 2006 never lost a drop of oil or coolant. Its all about how you service the car and how much love (=money) you put in it. Driving it like a sports car is no problem, but expect is to cost like a sports car.
Finally you have got Ben Collins. Please have him on here more often. He deserves his own tv show - great presenter and refreshing to see him than Yanni. More Stig please
I’m not convinced that the M5 here is necessarily a good enough example here, perhaps the exhaust system isn’t doing it any favours? And it probably needs the clutch delay valve taking out maybe some other associated work?
Depends. Remember M5 has one more exhaust setup running while alpina has one less. And by the look of it it has double glazing Windows. Extra airfilter box. So the weight might add up.
I'm voting for a race with an M5 of each series there ever was, starting with the e28. Please take an E34 starting from 5/94 (S38B38 with 6 speed gear box) and to be fair, only sedans please.
In Bens defence, it sounds like the Clutch Delay Valve in the manual gearbox is absolutely killing the quick changes. Many people delete the CDV completely which completely transforms this situation.
@Shrink1061 not sure if i ever managed a smooth gear change with 2 bm's with that valve installed. I think you are supposed to ping the clutch to use it, i found car pops out of gear if you accelerate a little hard on motorway junction roundabouts. I wonder if it has caused any deaths over the years if others have had similar issues?
Than you have not driven the Alpina B10. No discuss, the M5 is a famous sports car. But in direct comparing with an Alpina B10 there are significant differences. The B10 has definetly more torque punch in lower rpm areas and is the better dayli car for me as the M5. Alpinas rises her power on different way which i prefer more then the sporty lasting M5 which is more agressive. The B10 is the gentleman under this kind of cars, and becomes so the underdog in form from the classic E39. And what you can see here, i can confirm. The B10 is not that slower in accelerating and power as the M5. They are very similar in that point with no big differences. But all three cars shown here are phantastic vehicles and i love every from it. But my little bit more favor is the Alpina B10 as 4.6 with 340 hp. One reason for this, is his lower weight, and the other is her more lasting engine which is very reliable. Maybe the 4.8s also, but with this engine i have no experience. With this car(s) you are the king of the road. That way how this E39 brings his speed on the street i have never seen before, and also after. 200 km/h, and you think its not faster than 120 maybe 130. That quietness in the chassis... pure perfection.
As someone who owns an E46 M3 with an SMG gearbox, that stuck gear shift problem doesn't sound good. While restarts will sort it in the short term, in the long term you'll probably find the electronic gear selector (or its respective components) are on their way out. Had mine do the same, until one day while driving on the motorway, it shifted from gear 5 to 0, and it lost all power. Wasn't a fun experience but thankfully had the means to pull over safely.
Couple comments on the E39 M5... 1) That didn't appear to be a stock-height shifter, but even still the shift action on the stock lever can get very rubbery and indirect without upkeep on the bushings in the mechanism. Again, not saying that was an issue but it certainly could have been. 2) I'm going to guess that M5 needs Vanos seals because it did NOT perform as it should, weather aside. Having had one of those that did have Vanos issues it can definitely affect the sound in the upper rev range and that one didn't sound great. I'm not sure if it was because the mic picked up the B10 V8S exhaust and there were some weird pulses though. I'm wondering if either Ben didn't have the sport button pressed (actually changes the power level in that era of BMW) or if DSC was kicking in very aggressively on shifts.
Which other classic cars should we drag race?
Toyota
Bmw
Tuned Volvo 242 turbo
More Japanese classic cars and chevy classic cars!
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One of the best sounding drag races I've heard in a while
Facts
Honda sounds better
Idk what is wrong with your ears... But it sounds average at best...
@@gytispranskunas4984 clearly you never heard at e39 with an exhaust system in person. Far from average
Nah bro your ears are broken for sure
The aerial shots of the cars racing are just awesome. WE NEED MORE OF THEM
Prefer the sharkfin shots tbh
@@Tom-ol6cu both are dope anyway. But anything new is more dope
Agreed!5.37 😊
Agreed 👍🏾
totally agree, looked so epic
The E39, in almost any variant is one of the greatest cars of all time, without a doubt. Great video.
Totally agree with you. The E39 is a 🐐 for sure.
The e30 too
Even one with 15-inch alloys still looks good today.
e39 530d manual is my daily. worth about 1500, and has 200k on the clock. 41mpg
E39 M5 = peak car
I enjoy these videos. Three guys edging each other over and over, but nobody really wins or loses.
Peak content.
This gave me all of the feels!!! First car was a E39 540i and have been chasing that thrill ever since! Thanks Matt!
You won’t find it. It happens once for each car…usually when you’re a young whippersnapper.
Nah it was similar but it wasn’t the 540 would be nice tho
Super disappointed that the M5 driver did not release the DSC system. You can clearly see the M5 drop / fall on its face with every gearshift as a DSC system muted the throttle due to wet pavement.
As an e39 M5 owner, my M5 records a 1/4 mile of 13.2 @ 108mph - STOCK.
Love the video of older sports sedan getting live - ty.
Do more of these, but make sure drivers know the quirks of these cars.
Yeah I had one 10 years ago and that traction control was so savage in a launch situation, it basically slams the brakes on for you and cuts all power for at least 1 second.
Only way to launch E39 M5 is DSC off.
yep, sounds about right. When I had mine, you could easily spin tire in the 2-3 shift. Turning DSC off was mandatory. Also, it seemed like all 3 of these cars needed to be maintained a bunch and not be garage queens. I replaced 10 sensors on mine and it was like night and day.
*and it could spin the tires in the dry on the 2-3 shift. This is in the wet and on unknown tires.
Only way to drive the m5 in anything but sheets of black ice is dsc off. That thing would have been destroying the group.
Good to see the Stig. The E39 is one of the greatest cars ever made, truly a timeless design.
EXACTLY
@@dillanmistry even today I can tell you the build quality on these E39's are better than the F10's, I had a E39 530d, currently have a 550 F10, and the sheer effort BMW put into those machines is astounding, even the E46 compared with it's predecessors just feels so much more solid, especially compared to the E90 series.
Only wish he could drive stick :(
@@blancA4blanc stick? You mean manual? That M5 has some drivetrain issues. Wonder if that gearbox and clutch have actually been serviced. My 330d doesn't even bog down like that, just shows there's some shoddy maintenance going on there
@@bzilla-d4i So true! the 530i out weigh all of the ones above, even after 200k miles they still purr like a bird but these f10s cant go a century of miles without a new timing chain , you can trust an e39/e46 for long term and when you jump in one of them after being in a newer bmw, even if its slower, it feels miles better, more fun, cool and timeless!
The v8s is more expensive not just because of the extra cc and hp but because it's a very limited edition car being one of only 88 built so it's a collectors item if you're into Alpinas. The holy grail for alpina collectors is the B6 3.5S which was an E30 m3 body with an alpina 3.5 straight 6 shoved in it mated to a manual gearbox only 62 of those were built if I remember correctly. B10 V8S is a gem.
Thanks for having me on Mat - lovely car but she could do with a little er.. tuning :) hope you all enjoy the races, they run a tight ship on CarWow
Curious, why you did not turn off the DSC on the M5? (button on the dash next to the seat heater)
Very aggressive traction control system.
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@@paulsachs9983 the DSC was unusually unobtrusive on that one - I tried with it off on a practise run and it was the worst of all worlds. To overcome the dead spot in the engine's power curve I needed more throttle than normal to launch the car and was getting wheelsman, followed by no power. With DSC on I was able to get away with using more throttle and keeping the rpm in a better power band but the engine was still struggling a bit.. It was unusual I agree
It looked like Ben stuffed every gear shift up.
I was looking for this, car looks like it's gonna flip over on every shift.
"I feel pretty handy with the clutch" my ass
I suspect there is some issue with gearbox or clutch in that car.
It's quite an easy explanation. The traction control was still on. See 5:25 , that is the m5's speedometer. You can see the little yellow light flashing. In those cars, there is no launch control, the computer just pulled the power if there was spin. Kind of on off system
That Ben guy cant drive that M5 for sure!
@@matthewslabber372 Yeah I have an E39 M5 and the traction control is completely unusable. It's practically like an on/off switch in this generation of BMW. If they did indeed leave the DSC on during these races in the wet, it's no wonder the car was lurching like that.
The air footage! 🔥 with all that happened, the e39 M5 is still the winner in my books 😍
The M5 is boring, the Alpina is thumbs up everywhere
@@yerrie1908 yeah no doubt the Alpina’s are sick.. but the sound that the M5 makes 😭🔥 you have to admit that it’s crazy 😅 and it’s manual 😩🔥
@@snapwithchance I like to hear the engine, exhaust noice does nothing to me, but that’s why we have Alpina’s and M’s so there is a choice for everyone 😁
@@yerrie1908 couldn’t agree more bro 😄👊
@@yerrie1908 never driven one I would guess. Besides you have to drive a stick, it's too much for Alpina fan boys
That camera view from the top (5:30) is stunning. Its like an action movie. Well done🤩
I 100% agree I was about to comment this
YES ! Money shot right there. More !
I'm with you on this!
Yeah it's absolutely insane !!
@@sunnyd5944 SunnyD, i belive the M5 E39 without TCS has 510bhp.
The noise of the M5 ! Omg. The Ariel shot. Omfg ! 😊
So happy Matt finally did the E39s in a drag race, have been waiting for ages !!!!!
Some say he once baked a cake using nothing but engine oil and a refrigerator, and that the only thing that terrifies him are the curtains at James May's house.
😂😂😂😂😂
... all we know is, he's named "The Stog"
Split arse!😂😂
@@lesibamokobane8136 Stog? Thats more like downgraded The Stig. 😂
@@purwantiallan5089 🤣🤣 its what Clarkson once wanted to call him on this Grand Tour clip 👉ua-cam.com/video/7wSpFRbiT-0/v-deo.html
The sound of that M5... pure heaven
BMW e39 M5 is my favourite car, ever. My late father had e39 530d and I was always in love with the way it looked, how it felt to drive the car and especially after driving the M5 version - I was in love. So yeah, thank you Carwow & Matt, this was an awesome video for me to remind how much I love this car.
The BMW Serie 5 is better than BMW M5.
Good video but not turning the DSC off on the M5 is criminal especially in the standing start races.
The alpina vs M variant dragraces need to continue, would love to see comparisons
Yes. What about Corvette GT1 vs Chrysler PT Cruiser drag race??
@@purwantiallan5089 whatever floats your boat bud
The Chrysler PT-Cruiser is better than Chevrolet Corvette.
Good to see ben onboard. we like to make similar content!
Hit me up 🎉🎉
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This Ben needs to learn how to change gear and turn the dsc off lol. How was he the stig?
@@sumithran1 could be something wrong with trans/clutch for all we know.
@@darenzy But the DSC was definetly on. You can see the yellow warning light blinking in the middle of the tachometer as he launches. So he probably could have launched a lot better.
The sound was incredible ⚡
You can literally only hear the M5, love it!
Before watching the race itself and without caring for the result, just a massive thank you. All your videos are great to watch but this one really hits where it counts! Thank you
Matt- is not the hero we wanted but the hero we deserved
It's great to see Ben! Haven't seen him in a while. I have complete faith in his driving skills.
Mat we want more classic car drag races like this one with more classic cars!
+1 to that
Those are real thrill! not just who presses the pedal the fastest👍👍
It would be more interseting E39: 540i v M5 v B10.
Never thought I’d see a B10 V8 on carwow, superb!
This is the drag race we all wanted to see, but can you also make on of every e46 model?
After watching Hoovie’s Garage videos on his cheap B10 Alpina BMW I doubt I’ll ever take the gamble on one. Although they do look gorgeous!
Good to see Ben onboard, a talented professional driver 👍
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He's not called The Stig for nothing!
He is one tame racing driver. Some say that his heart ticks like a watch, and that he’s confused by stairs...
@jcat96 Some say he always clips the apex, and that he's touched every single member of the Untouchables
Those shifts didn't seem too professional though...or maybe something was wrong with the car
One of my great regrets is getting rid of my E39 M5....with a stage 1 Dinan package (god that sounded good!). Only problem with the car is I couldn't sneak back home...the rumble of the engine was like an early warning system!
This might be one of the best looking race ever,those E39 look so damn good
This is... a Classic drag race.
Thanks for sharing it with us.
Ben Collins aka the Stig is by far the most charismatic and knowledgeable guest on Carwow. Frankly would rather have him on rather than that insufferable clout chasing knows-very-little about cars Yianni as a frequent guest in drag races. Ben's got tremendous pedigree and comes across almost as a gentleman-scholar on cars and their driving characteristics, all neatly presented in an erudite yet humble persona.
In short: more Ben (and less Yianni) please!!
Absolutely
I love how the brake tests always show how well a car has been maintained over the years
E39 have specific front axle geometry and its prone to wear lower control arms joints, which leeds to vibration while braking. Joints doesnt have to be loose and noisy, they are just worn and can rotate with even slight force. Great steering, but it has some disadvantages.
@@michalpalka1000
I agree!
All suspension bushings in the control and thrust arms need to be replaced front and rear too as replacing some only can exacerbate issues in worn bushes and bearings.
I also assume the recirculating ball steering boxes in the V8 cars makes an already sloppy feeling front set up feel just that much worse.
@@michalpalka1000 Yup, gonna be changing all of that in my 520 pretty soon, at least is cheap to do
YES, YES, YES!!! FINALLY SOME CLASSICS! Continue with e34, please! 540, M5 and Alpina! Would be awesome!
The BMW Serie 5 is better than BMW M5.
Protip to mr Collins, next time turn off tc so you won't bog down 1-2-3 gears on a damp track..
He was scared maybe to turn dsc off ;D
loved the new camera angle mat.
ive been subscribed for 3 years and this is the best drag race yet
Love the aerial shots!! Great job as always!
That drone shot with all 3 was so majestic. Beautiful cars ❤
Soooo majestic 🤣
E39 still my favorite 5 series 😍
Beamer boy checking in😍😍
Fellow beamer boy 😎
Are you watching it in the comfort of a recovery truck ?
Best sounding drag race till now
Amazing video, E39's are so classic, an M5 is a dream of mine. I have a 99' 540i 6 speed, 02' x5 4.6is, and 14' 550i xDrive (tuned to 700hp). Even though the 540i is the lowest power it is the most fun to drive.
But it made me a bit sad that TC was left on, I know from experience it is so aggressive in that gen of car. Ben mentioned that even during the rolling race his gear changes had hesitation, I'd be willing to put my money on it flicker the TC on. As soon as it does that it just kills anything that was happening.
I love the E39, Would also love to see a drag race with an E38 and the competitors like the A8/S8 and the S-Class
1 Audi A8
2 Audi S8
3 Mercedes Class S
😍😍😍😍😍That M5 sounded orgasmic . What a great feast Matt thank you mate
This generation Is the real boss! Next drag with all m5’s generations pleaseee
How long i‘ve been waiting for this😭😍
I'm a big fan of Mercedes Benz, but honestly I'm really crazy about BMW E39 M5. It's just amazing
I love the aerial shots...we need more of those in future videos.
The aerial camera angle looks cinematic. Would love to have more of those
The cars looked pretty fast from air too
Liking the Videos after 2 seconds because i already know it’s gonna be great
That M5 sounds like Armageddon 😍😍😍
I had an e39 m5 10 years ago, that car will always hold a special place in my heart. It also had the rear muffler delete and it sounded insane. This video doesn't do it justice just how good they sound.
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This time, the cinematography is superb. Even the coloured grain (maybe a byproduct of the late afternoon shooting because of the mechanical problems of the M5) is fantastic. Best drag race together with the one with Dani Pedrosa.
Oh man this is perfection. The E39 Alpina touring is a dream car.
I prefer the M cars over the Alpinas. But M made only very few tourings, so the powerfull Alpina Tourings will always be special!
Yesssss quality again, same as the last video, love the mixing up the races and braking challenge, keep progressing and switching it up guys, I was watching the old drag races the other day and you've come a long way since then, but keep it coming and keep it fresh. Another 10/10 drag race video 👌👌👌
More drone shots, please! Thank you for the E39 shootout. Even 20 years after the look great! Now you need to compare it to an E55 and and RS6 from the same era.
One of the Greatest mass production cars ever made. Matt can we please get this race done again but this time on a dry day and filmed in the "MORNING".
I love the MPG dial in the B10 V8s just dive for the floor. That is in equal parts the coolest and most depressing dial to watch swing that hard.
My 1st car was a 2.8L E39 and I've got to say this drag race gave me a right old hard-on
Mine as well. Back in '04 I bought my first car: E39 528 manual from 97.
Bought a E39 M5 in '08.
I still own one E39. 530d m sport wagon.
Not planning to sell it.
I got E39 as my first car too, awesome cars 💪💪💪
My first car was a 540i v8 auto i loved that thing but it was a problem filled i kinda want another one in manual tho
My first car is a manuel E46 330i M sport touring. BMWs of this era are awesome. Better than new ones!!
You know you were born in the wrong generation when all these replies above me had some sick ass cars as their first cars
Ooh what a race!! Can’t beat an old bmw, they don’t make them like they used to, absolute beauties 👌 production quality is great
This is now the 3rd best sounded cars drag race we ever witnessed.
Been watching Matt for years now. I know for a fact he made this one for me 🥺. I shed a tear during the Customary Car Wow sound-check.
Matt Watson, you sir, are a man amongst men 🙌
The guy driving the M5 is the worst shifter on the face of the planet!!! 🥴 Never seen a car jerk so badly between gears. All he has is excuses 😒 what car "drops" power after a change up.
Zane, Matt says he hates you 😊
@@chriso8485 he's always been a hater! Yani can testify to the fact 😅
That drone shot was 🔥🔥!!!!
Great video, nicely done. Correct horse power and torque figures...
M5 - 394hp 500Nm
B10 V8 - 347hp 480Nm
B10 V8S - 375hp 510Nm
No!
That camera angle from 6:10 was awesome. Hope to see more in the upcoming videos.
My 5 series from 2006 never lost a drop of oil or coolant. Its all about how you service the car and how much love (=money) you put in it.
Driving it like a sports car is no problem, but expect is to cost like a sports car.
Just press the pause at 0:12 and take a look that black e39. It looks phenomenal 🔥
Love that Camera angle at 5:30 you can really see the gears shift.
That S62 engine is a beast. The sound coming out of the exhaust is just wonderful
as many others have pointed out please keep using more drone shots and gauge cluster cams, awesome drag race
Hit me up 🎉
Finally you have got Ben Collins. Please have him on here more often. He deserves his own tv show - great presenter and refreshing to see him than Yanni. More Stig please
You know you’ve made it when his holyness stig joins the show. Wow.
We need more of Ben Collins and the car wow team thank you so much as always the starter keep on doing a fantastic job love the videos thank you
I’m not convinced that the M5 here is necessarily a good enough example here, perhaps the exhaust system isn’t doing it any favours? And it probably needs the clutch delay valve taking out maybe some other associated work?
Nope a driver mod is what was needed!
@@billib1547 Ben Collins the original Stig on Top Gear
I don t think a driver mod is needed
Ben, turn off the traction control next time?
Camera quality so good wth. Love it
Best drag race I seen.
Good old days…no one talk about that gear change
That M5 sounds sounds epic. I predicted the BMW or the Alpina would win! That's how good I am!
If you weigh the cars I suspect the M5 will weigh about the same as the two Alpina's, can't really see where the extra 100kg is.
Depends. Remember M5 has one more exhaust setup running while alpina has one less. And by the look of it it has double glazing Windows. Extra airfilter box. So the weight might add up.
The sound of that M5 😍 Holy moly!
I'm voting for a race with an M5 of each series there ever was, starting with the e28. Please take an E34 starting from 5/94 (S38B38 with 6 speed gear box) and to be fair, only sedans please.
Today we learned that Ben Collins absolutely cannot change gear in an E39 to save his life.
In Bens defence, it sounds like the Clutch Delay Valve in the manual gearbox is absolutely killing the quick changes. Many people delete the CDV completely which completely transforms this situation.
@Shrink1061 not sure if i ever managed a smooth gear change with 2 bm's with that valve installed. I think you are supposed to ping the clutch to use it, i found car pops out of gear if you accelerate a little hard on motorway junction roundabouts.
I wonder if it has caused any deaths over the years if others have had similar issues?
Start Race 5:24
Put that M5's prehistoric traction control off and then peddle it for traction because its wet
It'll always be a 'must watch' if Ben Collins is in a car driving video...
Finally some Proper cars!!! Thanks Carwow
the m5 driver is not knowing how to drive that car
Rubbish...Ben is the stig n races in le mans.... young idiot only thinks good drivers are drag racers...😂
Than you have not driven the Alpina B10.
No discuss, the M5 is a famous sports car.
But in direct comparing with an Alpina B10 there are significant differences.
The B10 has definetly more torque punch in lower rpm areas and is the better dayli car for me as the M5. Alpinas rises her power on different way which i prefer more then the sporty lasting M5 which is more agressive. The B10 is the gentleman under this kind of cars, and becomes so the underdog in form from the classic E39. And what you can see here, i can confirm. The B10 is not that slower in accelerating and power as the M5. They are very similar in that point with no big differences. But all three cars shown here are phantastic vehicles and i love every from it. But my little bit more favor is the Alpina B10 as 4.6 with 340 hp. One reason for this, is his lower weight, and the other is her more lasting engine which is very reliable. Maybe the 4.8s also, but with this engine i have no experience.
With this car(s) you are the king of the road. That way how this E39 brings his speed on the street i have never seen before, and also after.
200 km/h, and you think its not faster than 120 maybe 130. That quietness in the chassis... pure perfection.
As someone who owns an E46 M3 with an SMG gearbox, that stuck gear shift problem doesn't sound good. While restarts will sort it in the short term, in the long term you'll probably find the electronic gear selector (or its respective components) are on their way out. Had mine do the same, until one day while driving on the motorway, it shifted from gear 5 to 0, and it lost all power. Wasn't a fun experience but thankfully had the means to pull over safely.
Please do not let the guy who drove M5 ever drive again . His shifting is not up to par.
The most beautiful drag race Carwow's ever had. Lol. BMW really did amazing in the e38, e39 and e46 era😍
Car wow any chance you can make a comparison against mercedes amg from the 2005 era.. e55 amg cls55 smg sl55 smg and s55 amg ?
Pretty sure most of you missed who BEN COLLINS is ........
This guy is the legendary STIG
Great video, please make another drag race video, with six cylinder E39, 528i vs 530i vs Alpina B10 3,3 😃
Carwow. Were the Alpinas' ZF gearboxes in sport mode (using steering wheel buttons to upshift) or standard auto?
I was super surprised. I thought the m5 was going to be a clear winner. Great video Mat 👏👍
Couple comments on the E39 M5...
1) That didn't appear to be a stock-height shifter, but even still the shift action on the stock lever can get very rubbery and indirect without upkeep on the bushings in the mechanism. Again, not saying that was an issue but it certainly could have been.
2) I'm going to guess that M5 needs Vanos seals because it did NOT perform as it should, weather aside. Having had one of those that did have Vanos issues it can definitely affect the sound in the upper rev range and that one didn't sound great. I'm not sure if it was because the mic picked up the B10 V8S exhaust and there were some weird pulses though. I'm wondering if either Ben didn't have the sport button pressed (actually changes the power level in that era of BMW) or if DSC was kicking in very aggressively on shifts.