The switch actuation force is actually dynamic -> Starts at 40cN and ends at 60cN, it’s completely linear over the 4mm. I was sure I read that on their website :(
The actuation force is actually variable because of the analog switches. Its between 40 and 60 depending on travel. So 2mm is right there at 50cn. I don't know how you got 65, but what I just typed is straight from wooting support. P
Yeah, I've known since yesterday, it's a mistake on my part. Luckily not a big one, if you watch the whole review, you should get a fairly precise picture on how the switch feels.
Hi! do you think it will be better for this keyboard to be low profile (and have the total travel of the switch 3 or 2.5 mm)? i'm asking because i started to like low profile keyboards in the last time, for gaming, of course!
Since the keycaps aren't included when you order a Wooting Two HE ISO Nordic on the website, I need to know where you ordered your keycaps, was it Corsair's own keycaps or some other brand?
Tachyon mode: Can you adjust the actuation point while it is on? Wooting one locks the actuation point to a predefined value in tachyon mode. Anyways I hope they don't make a tkl version of HE since I might buy it. :)
If i understand it correct, then one of the best features of Wooting is that you can access the "software" through the browser without downloading anything. This is one of the things i hate the most about "GaMeR GeAr"
Do you think they will make a 75 or tkl? I never tried a 60 before but I feel like text editing without arrow keys would suck and can’t play platformers cause it would be too cramped for both hands on
I'm torn between the Wooting 60HE and the Dygma Raise. The Wooting might be a little bit faster, but only up to 6ms and I don't know if I will be able to notice that. But I think I can definitely make use of the extra thumb keys.
Go with the Raise. I have it and even as a keyboard enthusiast, I can’t even consider any other “traditional” keyboard for everyday use anymore. Having that thumb cluster, the ability to move each half wherever I want (for example, I put the right half just to the left of the left half so I can have more room for my mouse and be able to quickly hit other keys), having different layers, the ability to change every single key function, multiple functions on one key and among many other things, is just so convenient that you can’t go back.
I'm curious how much of a time difference between a 0.1mm and for example 1.1mm actuation point makes, if one factors out the input latency of the keyboard itself. I was actually convinced it would take basically no time to move a finger one millimeter, but when I tried to estimate it, I was not so sure anymore. Assuming one moves a finger with no more than 10cm/s while pressing a key (I don't think it is higer), it would take at least 10ms to move the finger the extra 1mm. That seems like quite a lot actually. On the other hand I often struggle in Quake or other shooters with not having enough keys or having to press a key with a finger that is already busy. For example I have the rocket launcher on Q and Lightning Gun on E and if I want to weapon switch midfight while dodging, I often struggle to prioritize that, so a few thumb keys would speed that up. Also I would love the extra space for the mouse when only having the left half of the Dygma Raise in the way. I can't wait for the day when there is something like the Dygma Raise with switches like the Wooting.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't 4mm travel time insanely overkill? Why can't they offer buttons that have a total of 2mm travel time instead for the people who don't care about analog? I'm guessing that's why they went with 4mm and not 2mm, to please the car-game crowd. But they are fucking over everyone else as I see it. Thoughts?
By travel time I assume you mean travel distance, but no 4mm isn't overkill. It's actually standard on almost all keyboards that aren't flat profile. Also, you don't need analog to use rapid trigger!
@@hausgaming Yeah I meant travel distance. But they could easily make the buttons have max 2mm travel distance if they just made the right buttons, correct? Having 2 would be better than 4
@@celzolsen8988 its actually not ideal for wootings keyboard because their tech allows you to use the switches like an xbox trigger for things like racing games where how far down you press can be mapped to how much gas you give the car in game. On a normal keyboard the gas pedal is all or nothing. It also doesn’t hurt to have a long travel because the player doesn’t have to press all the way down since they choose their actuation point.
On one part it is good to see breakthrough tech, on another, it is kind of tiring to see yet another gamer trend to chase. Nobody is forcing you to buy it, it is obvious... but people who feel even a little bit competitive, will be compelled. Sounds like this thing is a big deal, moreso than the difference between average wired mouse and wireless, $100+ "pro gamer" mouse, in how much it will set apart skillful players.
@@hausgaming so haus, in your opinion, is your endgame atm wooting two he or wooting 60 he? i like the tkl size more however it's like you said it's missing rapid tigger.
Rapid trigger is the most useful with a high actuation point like 0.1mm. Basically how it works: Before 0.1mm is hit: nothing happens 0.1mm is hit: switch activates Switch keeps getting pushed down: still active You let go of the switch: after it goes up by 0.1mm (also adjustable), switch deactivates, even if still down at 3.9mm, regardless of actuation point (can happen anywhere in the range) Let's say you stopped holding it and it goes back up to 2.0mm and you push down, it will activate again after going down by 0.1mm, without ever reaching the top or in simple terms: almost instant actuation, almost instant stopping and being able to reactivate the switch before reaching the original actuation point
@@hausgaming It doesn't affect performance in any FPS game, as opposed to a better mouse. You can play with a basic Microsoft membrane keyboard and reach the pro level. You can't do that with an old office mouse.
@@assassinge5079 probably only affects a highly movement based game like csgo where movement is equally as important as aim. Otherwise, if you're playing r6s, cod and the like, then yeah probably doesn't matter as a good mouse.
The switch actuation force is actually dynamic -> Starts at 40cN and ends at 60cN, it’s completely linear over the 4mm. I was sure I read that on their website :(
yeah i am still using the wooting one keyboards. wooting are like the telsa of keyboards. get one while u can.
Great stuff man, I need to try me a wooting keyboard! I'm gonna wait for you're review before buying the 60% one 😀
Thanks bro ❤️! I can't see it being bad with the same switches tbh!
I knew you would love it! I'll buy one as well! I'd prefer the tkl, but we can't have it all....
Only waited for your review to preorder =)
Finally the video i have been waiting for 👍
Thanks for the support again FLYXSE 💪
The actuation force is actually variable because of the analog switches. Its between 40 and 60 depending on travel. So 2mm is right there at 50cn. I don't know how you got 65, but what I just typed is straight from wooting support. P
Yeah, I've known since yesterday, it's a mistake on my part. Luckily not a big one, if you watch the whole review, you should get a fairly precise picture on how the switch feels.
Hi! do you think it will be better for this keyboard to be low profile (and have the total travel of the switch 3 or 2.5 mm)? i'm asking because i started to like low profile keyboards in the last time, for gaming, of course!
Do u think keyboards will be better then this one ? Do u feel that more force on push then Apex pro? Apex pro or this one for faster spam clicking?
This is the best for gaming as I say on the video..
yoo Hausgaming, can i may ask u whats ur current main mouse ? Thanks alot
Video about that soon!
Since the keycaps aren't included when you order a Wooting Two HE ISO Nordic on the website, I need to know where you ordered your keycaps, was it Corsair's own keycaps or some other brand?
Think the stock ones I ordered are Wooting stock Nordic keycaps. I bought custom caps at later date, sorry do not remember from where!
Razer has analog switches on the Huntsman V2 Full size
Sadly no full control on reset point
Tachyon mode: Can you adjust the actuation point while it is on? Wooting one locks the actuation point to a predefined value in tachyon mode. Anyways I hope they don't make a tkl version of HE since I might buy it. :)
Yeah, you can adjust actuation point with the Two He while using Tachyon mode!
Which TKL keyboard would you recommend if I don't like full size or 60 %?
The best TKL I''ve tried is the Logitech g915 tkl
@@hausgaming But its so expensive.
If i understand it correct, then one of the best features of Wooting is that you can access the "software" through the browser without downloading anything.
This is one of the things i hate the most about "GaMeR GeAr"
You mean you hate standalone software? The new Wootility is accessible as a web application through the browser indeed, and it is a great feature!
Y@@hausgaming
Can you do a review on the steelseries prime mini?
Hey! I wanted to ask one thing, should i buy apex pro tkl or the wooting two he?
Wait for the Wooting 60 HE
Do you think they will make a 75 or tkl? I never tried a 60 before but I feel like text editing without arrow keys would suck and can’t play platformers cause it would be too cramped for both hands on
Possibly not in the near future, but for me it's worth it to get full size or 60%. 0.1-0.4mm actuation point and RT is just too good for gaming 💪.
Only 10 more days before everyone gets ther 60HE shipped dude!
I'm torn between the Wooting 60HE and the Dygma Raise. The Wooting might be a little bit faster, but only up to 6ms and I don't know if I will be able to notice that. But I think I can definitely make use of the extra thumb keys.
Go with the Raise. I have it and even as a keyboard enthusiast, I can’t even consider any other “traditional” keyboard for everyday use anymore. Having that thumb cluster, the ability to move each half wherever I want (for example, I put the right half just to the left of the left half so I can have more room for my mouse and be able to quickly hit other keys), having different layers, the ability to change every single key function, multiple functions on one key and among many other things, is just so convenient that you can’t go back.
Go With Wooting 60HE if you gaming alot
Go With Dygma Raise if you type alot
It's way more than 6ms if you use the 0.1ms actuation point, the choice depends on your priorities.
@@hausgaming based opinion
I'm curious how much of a time difference between a 0.1mm and for example 1.1mm actuation point makes, if one factors out the input latency of the keyboard itself. I was actually convinced it would take basically no time to move a finger one millimeter, but when I tried to estimate it, I was not so sure anymore. Assuming one moves a finger with no more than 10cm/s while pressing a key (I don't think it is higer), it would take at least 10ms to move the finger the extra 1mm. That seems like quite a lot actually.
On the other hand I often struggle in Quake or other shooters with not having enough keys or having to press a key with a finger that is already busy. For example I have the rocket launcher on Q and Lightning Gun on E and if I want to weapon switch midfight while dodging, I often struggle to prioritize that, so a few thumb keys would speed that up.
Also I would love the extra space for the mouse when only having the left half of the Dygma Raise in the way.
I can't wait for the day when there is something like the Dygma Raise with switches like the Wooting.
will this make my movement not bad in quake ;(
Yes yiepie!!
Is that you in the video?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't 4mm travel time insanely overkill? Why can't they offer buttons that have a total of 2mm travel time instead for the people who don't care about analog? I'm guessing that's why they went with 4mm and not 2mm, to please the car-game crowd. But they are fucking over everyone else as I see it. Thoughts?
By travel time I assume you mean travel distance, but no 4mm isn't overkill. It's actually standard on almost all keyboards that aren't flat profile. Also, you don't need analog to use rapid trigger!
@@hausgaming Yeah I meant travel distance. But they could easily make the buttons have max 2mm travel distance if they just made the right buttons, correct? Having 2 would be better than 4
@@celzolsen8988 its actually not ideal for wootings keyboard because their tech allows you to use the switches like an xbox trigger for things like racing games where how far down you press can be mapped to how much gas you give the car in game. On a normal keyboard the gas pedal is all or nothing.
It also doesn’t hurt to have a long travel because the player doesn’t have to press all the way down since they choose their actuation point.
On one part it is good to see breakthrough tech, on another, it is kind of tiring to see yet another gamer trend to chase. Nobody is forcing you to buy it, it is obvious... but people who feel even a little bit competitive, will be compelled. Sounds like this thing is a big deal, moreso than the difference between average wired mouse and wireless, $100+ "pro gamer" mouse, in how much it will set apart skillful players.
those stabs are just a huge deal breaker for me
Yeah, it's not a premium keyboard by any means. I'll take the trade off any day though, as it's just by far the most responsive keyboard I've had.
haus, u should try the wooting one keyboard?
I've tried it! Way worse than the Two HE. It doesn't have rapid trigger sadly
@@hausgaming so haus, in your opinion, is your endgame atm wooting two he or wooting 60 he? i like the tkl size more however it's like you said it's missing rapid tigger.
if I set the actuation at 0.1mm then rapid trigger is useless, might just get the apex pro tkl
You seem to have COMPLETELY misunderstood rapid trigger.
@@hausgaming Could you please explain?
@@blurryface4519 watch the video
Rapid trigger is the most useful with a high actuation point like 0.1mm. Basically how it works:
Before 0.1mm is hit: nothing happens
0.1mm is hit: switch activates
Switch keeps getting pushed down: still active
You let go of the switch: after it goes up by 0.1mm (also adjustable), switch deactivates, even if still down at 3.9mm, regardless of actuation point (can happen anywhere in the range)
Let's say you stopped holding it and it goes back up to 2.0mm and you push down, it will activate again after going down by 0.1mm, without ever reaching the top
or in simple terms: almost instant actuation, almost instant stopping and being able to reactivate the switch before reaching the original actuation point
why are they making 60 or fullsize... need tkl or 75 :(
I love mine.
Oh FFS, I already bought the Fnatic. 😄
Just lube the stabilisers, silicon grease and a a syringe ez
forsen ?
I just want a Wooting 75%! 😭
Logitech g915 tkl period
its very loud though
Yeah, it's not a premium keyboard for typing. I'd only recommend it for gaming
kiibord
Joakim back on the comments??
Lets goooo
Rip logitech
I could play on a membrane keyboard, it really doesn't matter lmao
What does that have to do with anything? I could play with a laser sensor mouse, it doesn't matter lmao
@@hausgaming It doesn't affect performance in any FPS game, as opposed to a better mouse. You can play with a basic Microsoft membrane keyboard and reach the pro level. You can't do that with an old office mouse.
@@assassinge5079 everything you just said is so ignorant lmao.
@@octs609 What I have said is absolutely true. You are simply finding excuses for you to buy this nonsense
@@assassinge5079 probably only affects a highly movement based game like csgo where movement is equally as important as aim. Otherwise, if you're playing r6s, cod and the like, then yeah probably doesn't matter as a good mouse.
It is now 60% it is called wooting 60 he