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Hacking the Ikea Symfonisk Sonos Speaker to Save $$$
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- Опубліковано 17 сер 2024
- How to turn IKEA Symfonisk Into a Sonos Connect! Add Powered Sub or speakers to Sonos!
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I just did the same thing. Now my crisp sounding studio monitors are wireless. Now all my speakers in my house can play at once in sync. Really awesome!
do you use them paired to a pc? if so, is there any lag?
Also Alex: secretly goes out and buys the sonos amp anyway 😂
Thanks for a helpful video, just did the same and the sound is awesome. I used a TRS 3.5mm female output and connected it to Logitech G560 gaming speaker. I also combined the high/low signals and fed that to the Tip and Ring pins on the TRS connector. The Sleeve is Ground as usual. In case anyone is planning to attempt this, make sure you secure the solder points and output connector with hot glue and use shrink tube anywhere cables are soldered together. Good luck.
For anyone wanting to do this, look into Hi/Low converters. You basically just clamp/solder it into the +/- wires on the speaker, and it steals the signal from there. That way you can STILL use this speaker AND run another amplifier + speakers on the same signal.
If you do this don't you just get the low or high signal since its after the crossover? Is there any way to sum the inputs? Would that be the outputs?
@@nutxo you need to connect before the crossover yes. Connecting after could result in a loss of audio signal at some frequencies.
Interesting idea, just a word of warning - the big capacitors on the main PCB can give you a nasty shock if you've recently unplugged the speaker from the mains, so just be careful if you want to attempt yourself
1М resistor will fix that for less than few cents if you're not careful enough. Like me when I built my first tube amp and I shocked myself several times building the power supply
I reported the video because they didn't warn in any way and this can actually lead to death.
Great demo, I could not find the Internet article I was looking for that told me how to do this, but I think I’ll be good with your video. Also your reaction when it worked is genuine and amazing, keep it up
AHhhm Alex be careful cause i think the powersupply is on the main board aswell 😅
But this is a pretty cool video :)
Alex with a Iron Solder, that is mental man, love from cuba
Follows someone else’s guide and then is amazed that it works 🤦🏽♂️
Hello, thanks for this interesting information.
Is it possible to connect a Bluetooth port directly on the board at the same places?
Looking at doing this for a while will deffo do it now.
Definitely do! Let us know how it goes over on our Twitter 🙏🏻🔥
@@techflow Any chance you could make an updated video using the Gen 2 Symfonisk speaker? The board is completely different.
but the mono audio signal though...
Keep up the great work on all your videos
Haha just tried this today and it worked! Haha had the same reaction. Could not believe it worked 😆
This is very cool. So tempted to buy one and DIY it. Thanks for sharing Alex
Do it!!! Would be so cool 🔥
If you have taken the pre-amp signal then you don't need to turn the volume up on the Sonos app. Surely its just line level out from the RCA's.
the amplifier stage in this application is fixed gain. line level is a can of worms, loudness merely a perception that varies as it pleases and some of the beautiful 'standards we have kicking about a result of a rather enthusiastic 1970's amplifier industry - it quickly gets out of hand compared to steady eddy DC. Sonos process their DSP before the DAC and pass a perfectly formed nugget of fingerlicking signal, so makes sense to sort out user volume request at the same time :) Assume it sits around the 0.3VRMS nominal typical of consumer spec line level. saying that mind, as they're dedicated channels for low / high frequency drivers rather than typical L/R I imagine the plot thickens.
Nice job. Too bad it's just mono though. I wonder if there is actually a stereo DAC in the Symphonisk?
late response but the DAC and Amp in the Symphonisk is actually stereo but one channel is for the Mid Range and the other channel is for the Tweeter!
Any option to do the oposite. Aux in? Computer out, or Alexa Echo Dot Aux into Symfonisk?
ETHERNET! What is SONOSE?
Way off-topic, but I’m happy to hear (starting at 2:10) that others have also discovered the beauty of Khmer music. It’s weird and beautiful at the same time.
S. F. T. - Birds away if you want to check it out. I could also recommend The Cambodia Space Project (that’s the band).
Great vid! I just use a chrome cast audio which was like £25 :)
I wish they would bring these back. glad I was able to get a few on clearance before they dried up
@@cabasse_music Get a raspberry Pi zero w and use BalenaSound. Essentially the same thing and works really well.
@@forid200 can you do synchronized multiroom streaming with those? (and cast to them with tidal/spotify etc)
@@forid200 i have a few pi0w, i need to explore this! airplay and multiroom, wow. this looks awesome.
Awesome vid, But the microphones don't seem to be that happy as I can hear the sound clipping ;)
Awesome Alex! 🔥🔥
I wouldn’t mind spending £400 on the Sonos amp if it allowed all the house speakers from different rooms to all be powered. Just if you want a full house you have to have multiple amps since they are all just for two sets. Sonos should just make a 2000w one for all the speakers
Loved it Alex 😎
Very cool video mate 👍, this great content well earned a subscription keep it up🙂
editing is on point!
Im happy to say my soldering skill is almost perfect, only smd parts are a bit tricky to me
You can pick up a Sonos Connect on eBay for £60-100, which essentially does the same thing albeit with stereo output and is an official product.
Butchering a brand new £89 speaker for mono audio and it took a bunch of soldering work which could have easily damaged the device or caused injury from the high voltage side, seems a bit silly to me.
I personally would rather go with the Sonos Connect, but if the diy is your thing, you have a spare speaker lying around or perhaps a broken one, go for it.
That product is discontinued and doesn't work in the S2 app. It may lose support all together eventually.
Your voice was clipping a lot
A video about sound that has bad sound.
It’s a rookie mistake. I couldn’t get through the video. I have clipping
@@Keji839 it's ok, I still highly enjoyed this video !
Hi Alex do you have steps to connect fire tv/fire stick to stream on Sonos one speakers , i was thinking its possible with uNpnp config with stb emulator but not sure how to play with it
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Nice one! Could have just got a chromecast audio ;-)
Yes thank you I was puzzled by the operation knowing you could just use a Chromecast audio.
I don't have any sonos stuff but since you can make a stereo pair of Sonos speakers in the app (IIRC), wouldn't it make more sense to buy 2 Symfonisk speakers (still 200€/£ cheaper), rebuild them into 1 housing if there is enough space and have true stereo sound?
Yeah that would be great, I was thinking mono is a big let down.
Mono sucks!
Great video, I’d love to see it done with a broken play 1 from eBay and an active subwoofer 🔊
GENIUS IDEA 🔥
The PCB hardware inside the Play:1 and the Ikea Symfonisk are identical. The Symfonisk bookshelf speaker is literally one of the last Sonos Play 1 before it was replaced with the One in a different guise. So the same guide should apply without issues.
I’ve done this. It doesn’t work properly as you’d expect
if you youtube search connect any sub to sonos or something along the lines you can find that exactly.
Why buying a raspberry for 30€ with raspotify playing music at 320kbps HD audio when you can hack an ikea speaker to get a mono audio signal, post processed eq coloured and never-use-againg original speakers, for 100€?
The reason for doing so is that it is compatible with other sonos gear. So you might have a pair of sonos speakers or soundbar in your living room, but you want music in your whole house and sonos is fucking expensive, so instead you cam get cheaper ceiling speakers in all rooms connected with wires to a central amplifier, then use all of them together with the sonos speakers.
Another scenario is that you might have sonos in a few rooms but a proper hifi somewhere else, then you can connect that hifi to sonos, sure the audio quality might be less than perfect and you would only get mono (unless you get two). But you can synchronize the sound across the whole house.
Both options would let you save a lot of money when you have already bought in to an quite expensive ecosystem.
But as you say, if you don’t have any sonos or no plans on getting more than one there is very few reasons to get one instead of a chromecast, raspberry pi, bluetooth speaker or a cheaper connected speaker.
Because I want my cheap legacy soundbar to show up both as a Sonos device and an AirPlay2 device, not sure if your solution does that.
And who in their right mind will hack a brand new speaker instead of a used or even damaged one?
Because the cute girl wants a Sonos
@@johnviera3884 🌈 j’adore
Fair play alex your doing awesome fella
Me & Jed work super hard on these so we appreciate that!
Well. Needs AUX INPUT not Output...
Well .. couple misconceptions:
- what you showed is the Sonos Port, not the Sonos Connect, that is now discontinued.
- The Sonos Port and Sonos Connect are stereo. Your ghetto hack is mono. So you'll need 2 of them. That's 198 GBP.
- The discontinued Sonos Connect (look out for the Gen2, as it's S2 capable) can be got for around 140-180 GBP second hand, but it requires watching eBay a bit. For those that continue using S1 as they have old Play:5 Gen1 and the likes, that are not S2 capable, there's lots of bargain Sonos Connect to be found as many are upgrading to S2.
So, the hack makes sense, if no 2nd hand Sonos Connect Gen 2 can be got, but otherwise not really.
Would it not be cheaper doing it with a Google mini?
Alex get you're self a Amateur Radio licence. I'm always making circuit boards for things.
But just mono... so you’d have to buy two IKEA speakers. While half the price is still a bit hacky a prone to failure given the tiny workspace on the board.
So you twisted the wires from the capacitors together combining high/low but then ran essentially a Y cable from that twisted pair to your two RCA jacks? And use the same ground for both? Appreciate the video, helps to make the article make sense!
Can you hack a Sonos Roam? That would be awesome to pair with a soundboks!! Wireless sonos Jack out.
I've never seen anything so pointless! Why would you settle for a mono signal?
Look in the mirror.
Well, for something like my patio where I have 4 Focal outdoor speakers along my house spread out 10ft apart. Mono is ideal as I wouldn't want the listening experience to change based on where Im sitting on the patio or where I'm at in the yard. Set this up and run it to my 2000w crown amp that runs the focal speakers. Now I can simply use the sonos app or echo dot to control them. This also allows me to sync them up with my other sonos setups in the living room, bedroom and garage to have the same music playing seamlessly throughout the house and outside.
yeah i wondered that too, the only way you would be able to get stereo, is doing this to two symfonisk shelve speakers, which is 200 pounds, and at that point the time and effort you have to put in to it, you might as well just get the sonos amp
For a whole house audio with in ceiling speakers, it is frequently done using a mono signal. Also don’t be rude.
@@mundmc8172 yeah, mono is the way to go if you’ve got a bunch of speakers covering a wide area
I would go for a raspberry pi with a hifiberry board on it and Volumio installed. but it might not be what you want here.
Ok, you’re clearly a legend, so you must be able to tell me how to do it the other way around…?
I want to get the rca output from a turntable to play out of a symfonisk (and I don’t want to fork out for a Sonos Port!)
This is great for an active sub. instead of buying the sonos sub that cost like 10 times this setup
I want to do this to feed my active sub from Sonos Beam 2. If a Symfonisk is joined as a group and the material is say Dolby Digital with discretely encoded bass, does the Beam still output a full range to the grouped speaker?
Is it possible to get the digital signal out to connect direct into external AMP oder active Speaker?
Sonos, Ikea, and Bose coming together to bring you... mono.
you could just get a high to low output converter and hook up to the speaker wires instead
Is it possible to get the digital signal from the Sonos streamer instead of analog out?
Are the output sound generally modified by a filter of the sonos? How good are the TruePlay working with external speaker?
Love this movie! Is this only for rca output or is it also possible to plug in a turntable for example?
I saw a symfonisk hack to a „sonos move“ someone put a Batterie inside and the speaker works without powercable up to 8-10hours. Can you also do this and explain how it works in a video ?
Thats crazy i have those bose speakers. They are good speakers I got years ago.
well, your video is nice and you appear really authentic. But I think it's not efficient to buy 2 sonos speaker for 1 stereo system, it's cheaper to by one e.g. music cast (yamaha).
BUT, another but with thumbs up: I find it inspiring to create an AUX input to use the speaker as TV - speaker, also usable with elder TVs, using the headphone jack.
That looks exactly like the mainboard of the 2013 play 1
I guess, if you didnt want to hardwire to a set of speakers, you could create a wireless group with another Sonos speaker(s) and connect a turntable/vinyl player...
Hello how could you please insert a minijack INPUT
Just did this and pluged it in my Onkyo TX-NR616 via RCA inputs. It sounds terrible. Volume is very low and audio is muffled. Any advice?
Okay so basically you connected the Sonos speaker to another speaker which acts like an amp in order to freely connect to any device?
Alex, are you still able to control the volume via the sonos app with this hack? Great video, well done!
Wondering this too. But I think he said lo-pass signal which makes me think it's before volume adjustments. I think you need the hi-pass signal to adjust the sound together with the speaker / app.
Essentially... very clever.
We have Sonos in all our hotels and pubs they are STUPIDLY expensive 😂
Can this be done so I can use so I can use 3.5mm out?
and what is the fix to make it not mono?
Or just use a Chromecast Audio? £30 or used to be before they got discontinued, can still pick them up second hand
i was thinking the same thing tbh - there are way cheaper options like the normal google homes if you aren't to fussed about the Quality.
More than likely he was trying to find a cheaper Airplay 2 receiver. A used Airport Express would have been easier and cheaper anyways for Airplay 2.
Hey friend I want to connect direct audio to gen 3 subwoofer
Will volume Control via Sonos App still be working ?
Anyone ever say you look like smeagol on his early stages of transformation to gollum?
looks a hell of a lot nicer than your personality
Why?
You said you were following a guide, care to link it?
So you wrecked a perfectly good speaker to then settle for mono audio signal with post processed eq. And if you'd like stereo you'll have to spend twice as much, so basically the same price 🤣. Oh good God lol
you should've got a new enclosure which is much smaller if you're not using anything else
Very clever!
Dude, I was finding you, but I forgot your youtube channel vlog name. Recently, you keep bumping into my mind. Do u know how I found you this time???? I search "UA-camr buy Mini Cooper" bammm your on the 1st search video, I didnt know you had another channel than MarzBar, Im gonna watch all your video now.
Haha incredible! Welcome back man and welcome to TechFlow 🙌🏻 let us know what you think of the vids!
Nice Video :D
Can it work the same with Passive speakers? Won’t sound good?
Kinda besides the point to use passive speakers, as that's what you're disconnecting from the unit in the beginning. You could just re-route the cabling for those speakers to some others, but I doubt the amplifier would have enough power to make any decent sized speakers sound good.
Hey what's your website name kindly share
How can I use the speaker only? What do I need to solder in order to use the speaker without wifi? I want to be able to use RCA to use the internal amp
Alot of the reasons that Alex used are wrong for example using hot glue to secure your solder joints because of vibrations is not right. If you do solder something make sure that the iron is on med/high heat and let the solder flow through the wires before taking the iron off. 👌👍
Thank you 🙏🏻 We've pinned your comment in hopes that more people see that 🙌🏻👀
Alexander investigates the economic possibilities of learning to solder. From the look of his iron tip, wire ends, contacts, and finished product, it appears there are a few little pro tips that nobody has shared with him. Alexander enjoys RC videography, FPV and such, so I would like to recommend a YTer, Joshua Bardwell, who for years has been assembling quads. A good number of his earlier vids , even as recent as early last year, have "lessons" in pro soldering. Not structured lessons, in his vids he simply discusses what he's doing while he's doing it. A few vids do specifically target soldering topics; e.g. variable temp irons, solder options, etc. I've come to trust his signature sign on - "I'm Joshua Bardwell and you're going to learn something today." Almost too cheeky for Nando's, right, but he delivers on the promise. I recommend him highly.
Lots of good comments and regardless how you look at it, at least he is doing something creative and useful with his time which can lead to other creative and useful ideas. Rather than binging or steaming all day (I'm guilty of that). Aside from the stereo aspect I could see this useful in Alex's situation where you have ceiling mount speakers in areas where stereo separation may be more problematic. Loved the successful effort.
I'm really confused about what's going on.... He's got something plugged into normal bose speakers - the same ones I own. And controlling the sound/music with a device.... Am I missing something?
I think he deadass just made his speakers connect over wi-fi.
@@Midnight_AR no think about it, he's using the ikea bookshelf speaker which contains proprietary Sonos software and making itwork with any speakers. Therefore saving $300 as the IKEA speaker is only $99.
How can I get to your website?
Why did u leave the marzbar channel :(
Can someone explain to me what he did and why?
So Sonos system can play without your phone. You can basically remote control a whole house system and leave and it still runs via WiFi off your Pandora, Spotify, etc. By using this hack you could basically plug in a regular system into that workflow. In my head I'm thinking making a whole wired backyard outdoor speaker system work in conjunction with the rest of a group of wireless Sonos speakers in the house.
You can also play diff things on diff speakers.
Ewok Nation Thanks for the explanation bro
Good video
u could just buy an echo dot which is like 10 bucks
Good luck pairing that to another sonos speaker....
this is all I need for my pool amplifier , thanks
You need 2 for stereo! You haven’t saved much!
saving 50%!
Anyone know the song at 2:10? Pls tell me
This is "Birds Are Away" by "S.F.T" ;)
@@bbschmidt01 thank youuu!
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Baby boy. Those eyes. Good Job 🔥
802.11n is considered outdated. At least the first generation 802.11AC is good. 100mbps is recommended.
it's more than enough for sonos. n does 150mpbs easily in just 1 i/o stream, with mimo it does that 4 times over
why would you use your own amplifier with the "low out Signal" and not using the Internal Sonos amp? Maybe its possible to get InWall/InCelling Speakers for BiAmping
Hey Alex, so how many IKEA Symfonisk's did you destroy in making this video?
Only 19...😂😂😂
@@techflow LOL Alex you are either very witty or I think I need to have Newark Fire and rescue sat outside your office or home just in case you set fire to yourself or blow yourself up.
I think at 19 it would have been cheaper going down the Sonos in ceiling speaker route, they are apparently rather good.
My small cinema room has just been upgraded during lock down with a 2nd hand Creative Inspire T7700 7.1 Surround Sound Speaker system, I think that I have got it set up as when watching Top Gun the cat ducks when the planes come towards you.
This fool said Ok from folks my name’s been Alex🤓