I would seem to be prudent to replace both fuses. Both fuses have seen the same mechanical fatigue and temperature cycles, so if that was the cause the other one may fail soon. Best to replace both and be good for another 9 years.
Yay, Nassir! As the mumber of EV's grows, we need more ppl who can fix them and recycle the batteries especially in times when spare parts are hard to come by and/or freakin expensive.
I really appreciate you covering repairs on older Tesla cars and also showcasing such wonderful mechanical talents. I wish we have access to such talents in my town. I have a 2020 Model X and the alignment is not always quite right. The inside of my tires wear much faster than the rest of the tires. I am looking forward to watching the suspension/alignment video!!
My 2013 had the cabin heater fail in 2021 the exact same way- fuse. Service center fixed it and haven’t had a problem since. Glad third party repair shops are able to fix up the old cars. Good point on the odd placement of the fuse in the wheel well.
these guys are great, fixed my broken mcu at half the price of what tesle wanted(later got it refunded by tesla) but will also tell you if tesla will do a repair cheaper than they can
Don't know if you covered what the suspension noise was in the video but I'm pretty certain that it is the top mount of the McPherson strut. I have the same issue in my car (not a Tesla) and my garage noticed it for it's annual MOT test. It groans and squeals on full lock and sometimes makes noise when going up kerbs which is the same as what millennium falcon did on the test drive. Overall good video and nice to see that you are showing that Tesla's can be serviced without going through the Tesla service.
Love your Videos, but the actual problem is the PTC heater that lets humidity inside. thats why the fuse goes boom. Your old S has revision 1 of the PTC heater -> it’s ut to revision 3 now that no longer allows moisture to intrude. Anyways, this video gave hope to many people - and you can prolong the lifespan for a small period.
Compared to newer Model 3: M3 doesn't have PTC, it has hearpump + using motors as heat source, right? M3 has very few fuses, it has over current protection board instead, right? And also the DC-DC lives a safe life in the penthouse, instead of in the wheel well.
I had similar issue with MX 90D, X have separate heater in front and back, both gone. Service center replaced PTC heater and fuses ... if was only fuses no idea, but was quite expensive action.
DC current goes only in one direction and that will over a very long time move electrons in wires and in a fuse so much that there can be holes in the metal and part of the internal fuse wire can get slightly thinner. If that happens the fuse can blow at a lower current. That is a advantage with AC where electrons goes back and forth and this do not happen, or at least extremely slower.
Hello guys, nice to see that experts can repairs „old“ cars with acceptable costs. I have a Model S P90D with more then 310000 kilometers. The car is from the end of 2015. I come from Germany in the near or cologne and maybe we can get in contact. Would be nice to have mechanics that only change the parts which are defect and not more. Sure sometimes it’s useful to change the same part also on the other side but often it’s not necessary to change the biggest part. My experience aren’t so good with several repair station. That`s why I´m looking for good alternative repair stations. How would the best to come in contact? Email or calling? Thanks in advance.
Great with a super alternative possibility to repair EVs and my wish is if Nazir can open a branch in Østfold afterwards. I think the demand for it will grow enormously in the coming years and more cars will lose their warranty. And maybe a discount code with #teslabjorn#? 😁
If Tesla service is at least as competent and as knowledgeable as Nassir, they should easily be able to diagnose such an issue and replace the fuse. Therefore, it *should* be inexpensive.
@@pbasista my service center has always been a breeze to work with. I’ve done my own 12v battery swap and headlights. They’ve done my door handles but I think I’ll try that myself next time if it happens.
If the fuse is operated close to its limit, it gets hot. Depending on the road surface, there can be vibrations. Hot wires don't like vibrations. One out of several thousand fuses may fail after nine years.
This fuse has to be installed with the correct polarity. So it's not like the regular simple wire fuse your talking about, it also offers protection against reverse current. Could be a high current diode inside which failed.
Jealous of having Nassir. My Kia service doesn't know the difference between the PTC heater and heat pump, and I have to go there if I want warranty service. 🤦🏻
A high quality fuse has no lifespan. If a fuse blows, 3 reason can happen. 1) The manufacturing quality was bad. 2) The trigger current is to close to the load current due to system design failure. 3) The load has a problem. #3 is the highest probability why a fuse triggers.
Really such a sympathic mechanic but why wearing a insulated gloves when the HV system is shut down over the service disconnect and the HV wiring harness is also not contected to the system. Safety first but with technical sense and understanding. It’s just a measure to scare people who see this video.
There are few people who spend as much time and money on repairs done on this car. Would normally have been wrecked, looks like the lifespan is only 7-8 years on a Tesla. Will be a very expensive car anyway
Nassir for the win!🎉
9year fuse heater in Norway... He makes a good point, that fuse was a trooper!
9 years, big deal. It’s a fuse. Some old house fuses have been in place since the Second World War
@@CRAZYCR1T1C DC to DC - fused used in houses.... Ha!
Nassir, the man, the myth and the legend. Good man.
*Nassir
@@bjornnyland Arrrgh, missed a s. Fixed =)
Did he replace both fuses for good measure? I would have done.
With ~400€ cost of labour and maybe 2€ for a fuse, replacing both would certainly be in the customer's best interest.
exactly i would have asked to replace both. btw take a look at 7:12 are there another 2 smaller fuses on the left side.
I would seem to be prudent to replace both fuses. Both fuses have seen the same mechanical fatigue and temperature cycles, so if that was the cause the other one may fail soon. Best to replace both and be good for another 9 years.
Yay, Nassir! As the mumber of EV's grows, we need more ppl who can fix them and recycle the batteries especially in times when spare parts are hard to come by and/or freakin expensive.
I really appreciate you covering repairs on older Tesla cars and also showcasing such wonderful mechanical talents. I wish we have access to such talents in my town. I have a 2020 Model X and the alignment is not always quite right. The inside of my tires wear much faster than the rest of the tires. I am looking forward to watching the suspension/alignment video!!
just get an alignment done. an easy job for your tire shop
Nassir becoming a regular on the Bjorn show
*Nassir
@@bjornnyland whoops, thanks for the correction
My 2013 had the cabin heater fail in 2021 the exact same way- fuse. Service center fixed it and haven’t had a problem since. Glad third party repair shops are able to fix up the old cars. Good point on the odd placement of the fuse in the wheel well.
I love Nasir! Me as an engineer I can clearly agree, color is different of the fuses! 😂
I so look forward to your repair videos. As a DIYer I'll be using everything I learn from content like yours.
these guys are great, fixed my broken mcu at half the price of what tesle wanted(later got it refunded by tesla) but will also tell you if tesla will do a repair cheaper than they can
Don't know if you covered what the suspension noise was in the video but I'm pretty certain that it is the top mount of the McPherson strut. I have the same issue in my car (not a Tesla) and my garage noticed it for it's annual MOT test. It groans and squeals on full lock and sometimes makes noise when going up kerbs which is the same as what millennium falcon did on the test drive.
Overall good video and nice to see that you are showing that Tesla's can be serviced without going through the Tesla service.
We also need a NASSIR in DK. :-) Great video and great work from Nassir (as always).
Best content with Nassir (name corrected). Millennium Falcon is unstoppable =)
*Nassir
@@bjornnyland Thanks
Great service from Norway
Thanks for a good video about a older model S.
Have a 15 mod S, so this is verry useful to know..
Love your Videos, but the actual problem is the PTC heater that lets humidity inside. thats why the fuse goes boom.
Your old S has revision 1 of the PTC heater -> it’s ut to revision 3 now that no longer allows moisture to intrude. Anyways, this video gave hope to many people - and you can prolong the lifespan for a small period.
Incorrect. The PTC heater was replaced not long time ago and it's not rev 1.
@@bjornnyland I saw my revision 3 went boom also.. so i guess we are screwed with the ptc heaters.
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You should have changed both!
Compared to newer Model 3: M3 doesn't have PTC, it has hearpump + using motors as heat source, right? M3 has very few fuses, it has over current protection board instead, right? And also the DC-DC lives a safe life in the penthouse, instead of in the wheel well.
i am surprised that you didnt do both fuses now while open.
these are the best videos :)
Repairs are allways the best. More sustainable instead to buy new....
Hey Bjorn
Did you see new Turkish EV call Togg ?
Any video and reviews are u going to upload ?
Thanks
I had similar issue with MX 90D, X have separate heater in front and back, both gone. Service center replaced PTC heater and fuses ... if was only fuses no idea, but was quite expensive action.
How much did you pay if you dont mind me asking? I get the same problem right now
Nassir reminds me Hasan Minhaz. Kudos to him
FYI..... The Toyota Rav 4 EV uses the same DC to DC converter
FYI it has a tesla designed drivetrain and battery :)
DC current goes only in one direction and that will over a very long time move electrons in wires and in a fuse so much that there can be holes in the metal and part of the internal fuse wire can get slightly thinner. If that happens the fuse can blow at a lower current. That is a advantage with AC where electrons goes back and forth and this do not happen, or at least extremely slower.
wow, I never heard that before :D
Wouldn’t be good to change both fuses at once?
That's like a ceramic fuse inside I think only have sand. With the different weather or big change of temperature can broke and be open
5:35 - Boss wearing high voltage gloves, lowly worker wearing puny latex gloves. What is up with that??
The worker probably already measured the voltage to be at zero. You don't need gloves after you've disconnected the HV input and measured 0V.
They replaced both fuses, right? The other one is going to go soon also...
Where can I get the heater repair done near NYC? (Not Tesla service center)
3-400€ to change a damn fuse!? That is robbery IMO. But seeing what needs to be removed to get to it... nuts!
You forget that this is Norway. Labor cost is among the highest in the world. Don't forget that you're also Nowergian, Gazer...
@@bjornnyland I know. Just to have a mechanic open the hood to have a look probably cost 60€ :) Getting pretty expensive to own a car... even an EV.
We need to clone Nasir as we need him all over the US. He is so good.
*Nassir
Very noice
Millenium Frankenstein refuses to let any system perma fail!
Hello guys, nice to see that experts can repairs „old“ cars with acceptable costs. I have a Model S P90D with more then 310000 kilometers. The car is from the end of 2015. I come from Germany in the near or cologne and maybe we can get in contact. Would be nice to have mechanics that only change the parts which are defect and not more. Sure sometimes it’s useful to change the same part also on the other side but often it’s not necessary to change the biggest part. My experience aren’t so good with several repair station. That`s why I´m looking for good alternative repair stations.
How would the best to come in contact? Email or calling? Thanks in advance.
Great with a super alternative possibility to repair EVs and my wish is if Nazir can open a branch in Østfold afterwards. I think the demand for it will grow enormously in the coming years and more cars will lose their warranty. And maybe a discount code with #teslabjorn#? 😁
Nice. Do we know how much Tesla would charge for the same repair?
Let me look in my service history and I can give you a price from a few years ago
@@kodywillnauer9422 maybe best not to relive that trauma! 😜
If Tesla service is at least as competent and as knowledgeable as Nassir, they should easily be able to diagnose such an issue and replace the fuse. Therefore, it *should* be inexpensive.
@@dGanger it wasn’t that bad if I remember correctly. Not as much as a new charge port 😂
But then again the heater fuse was only a fuse.
@@pbasista my service center has always been a breeze to work with. I’ve done my own 12v battery swap and headlights. They’ve done my door handles but I think I’ll try that myself next time if it happens.
A fuse should last forever. No moving parts just a low resistance wire. Only thing it needs to do is self destruct when overloaded.
If the fuse is operated close to its limit, it gets hot. Depending on the road surface, there can be vibrations. Hot wires don't like vibrations. One out of several thousand fuses may fail after nine years.
This fuse has to be installed with the correct polarity. So it's not like the regular simple wire fuse your talking about, it also offers protection against reverse current. Could be a high current diode inside which failed.
King Nassir 💪
Jealous of having Nassir. My Kia service doesn't know the difference between the PTC heater and heat pump, and I have to go there if I want warranty service. 🤦🏻
A high quality fuse has no lifespan. If a fuse blows, 3 reason can happen. 1) The manufacturing quality was bad. 2) The trigger current is to close to the load current due to system design failure. 3) The load has a problem. #3 is the highest probability why a fuse triggers.
300€ for shange a fuse. I do totally wrong trade.. 😂😂
Labor in Norway is expensive. And it's not just a regular fuse in the fusebox...
Not an expensive repair? Eesh! 400 Euro for a new fuse? The fuse costs 3 Euro on RS Components 🙈
BMW Ix4 is far more durable and well build
Really such a sympathic mechanic but why wearing a insulated gloves when the HV system is shut down over the service disconnect and the HV wiring harness is also not contected to the system.
Safety first but with technical sense and understanding.
It’s just a measure to scare people who see this video.
There are few people who spend as much time and money on repairs done on this car. Would normally have been wrecked, looks like the lifespan is only 7-8 years on a Tesla. Will be a very expensive car anyway
The average wrecking age for a car in Norway is 19 years.
Not sure about the older Tesla's, but my parents had a 2019 Model S. No issues in 40.000 km of ownership. That convinced me to buy a Model 3.