Plane Approaches Too Close
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2023
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the distance between the A380 and the 777 looks way closer than it is. Nice but tricky clip.
My thoughts too, my guess is it was perfectly safe. But the angle / perspective and zoom-lense made it look much closer. And I am sure that 3MOA also knows that perfectly well, but wanted us to comment - just like I do right now 🙈. But he deser es it, always fun to watch these clips 👍!
Actually in some very busy airports apparently is not uncommon to see actually two planes on the runway (it shouldn't happen, but it does), one almost taking off and another one just landing... I think one of them was in Canada, where this is not very uncommon.
@@stefanschneider3681I do live not far from Birmingham airport. It’s called runway efficiency. It’s a perfect safe distance. Just a click bait title.
the problem seems to be with the go around if happened, and not the landing
@@ibuzz1337There are plenty room for go-Around. It is normal situation. At London Gatwick you can see it every day.
That last video is all I hear when my 8 year old son plays flight simulator.
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Haha
Literally LOL 😂😂👍
That’s the least of your problems. Just wait until he wants to be a real pilot.
@@yellow1612❤😅🎉😊
What's really scary is when you're in the cockpit and you start hearing a bunch of those warnings.
Especially at 30,000 feet😮
@@JohnJohansen2 not really, if you trust the altimeter then hearing "pull up" or "terrain" at 30,000ft isn't so bad. Even if all your navigation has gone to heII, you've still got 1,000ft between you and the peak of Everest. 😬
Thankfully, this appears to be a mechanic running through all the warnings to make sure all the safety systems are working properly.
Even scarier when you’re in a passenger seat. 😅
@@JohnJohansen2 I'd be much more scared if I heard them at 30 or 300 feet.
The warning messages loop sounds like the narrative of my life! 😂
Wouldn't that be "pull out!" ;)
Ahh Nick. It must have something to do with "METEOR"..!?
As an air traffic control officer at Birmingham Airport, I would like you to apologise to Birmingham ATC for erroneously calling our professionalism into question, and I would like you to change the name of this video. In the clip shown, there was more than ample separation but thanks to a camera lens with a high focal length, they appeared closer. Whilst ICAO runway separation is not applied in the UK, in this instance the separation would have met the ICAO as well as UK CAA criteria.
No doubt too, the applicable missed approach/go around procedure would entail a turn that would avoid the wake turbulence from the A380?
@@sailorman8668 if a go-around would otherwise take the arrival through the flight path of a higher category departure, yes, a turn can be applied. Approach Radar is likely to want the go-around aircraft to turn in any case, to fit back into the arrival sequence.
Used it as a headline grabber. Should have used the F18. Titled it The real Top Gun.
P.s I hope you get your apology
Agree, all you need is wheels off the runway by the time the arrival crosses the runway threshold. If you can't time it like that, you won't check out as a tower controller at most locations. This happens countless times a day. Very poor choice of title for this video.
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Are you one of the Bots here ?
@@brungraf I´m not, i´m lover of 707s and DC8s really
Always a good watch " 3 minutes of aviation " kudos !!
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Watching that F/A-18 clip was just like watching Top Gun Maverick. That pilot did resemble Tom Cruise.
No he didn't
Dude looked as much like Meryl Streep as he did Tom Cruise, but ok
In that he also wore a helmet?
Cooler than Maverick
I would love to go camping in the flight path of that fighter jet!
The pilot looked like he really enjoyed the scenery.
@@explorenaked I saw that, too. What a wild ride. There needed to be some Creedence Clearwater Revival playing in the background!
@@philipedsch haha good joke
Here's the full version : The pilot is Vincent "Jello" Aiello :
F/A-18 Low and Fast through the Sierra Nevada Mountains / Fighter Pilot Podcast
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High Speed Low Level in an F/A-18 Hornet / Fighter Pilot Podcast
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2:00 This is the hardest landing of an A330 you can witness 😄
It always stresses me out viewing those landings where the jet is mere feet from the ground but the tires refuse to make contact with the runway.
As of December 2022, the Airbus A330 has been involved in 45 aviation accidents and incidents, including 14 hull-losses (10 due to flight related accidents and 4 due to criminal related accidents), for a total of 339 fatalities -- Wikipedia entry for the A330
As long as the first airplane is at least 6000 feet down the runway and airborne before the arriving aircraft crosses the landing threshold, all that is required (in the USA) is a wake turbulence cautionary advisory. This appears to be a legal operation (if it occurred in the USA. - Former ATL ATC
If you don't mind me asking, ATL has those closely spaced parallel runways: When they clear a departure while a heavy is landing next door, do they ever have issues of that arrival balking their landing and leaving wake turbulence in front of the departure? (Particularly unpredictable go-arounds, like in the "pilot overcontrols plane" video on this channel)
Spot-on. This is perfectly legal and great use of the runway.
Well don’t you just know your $hit! Impressive and educational.
Based on the rate of descent of the landing aircraft, I estimate at least thirty seconds between departing plane airborne and landing plane wheels on ground, which in Europe would be considered uncomfortably close - the recommended minimum there is 45 seconds.
@@princekamoro3869 The allowed timings take into account things like wake turbulence and go-rounds. The go-round procedure would very probably include an immediate turn away from the departure runway.
Can't help but marvel at how cool and composed the F18 guy is, I'd be terrified.
Looked like Vincent Iello from the fighter pilot podcast
Cooler than Maverick
I liked how he took a 1/2 second to admire the alpine lake and the scenery…
His TGPM (Total Grunts Per Minute) was way lower too! @@eddykuipers2971
I was one of those birds the Eurofighter missed. I was fine, yet my pal shit all over his tail feathers! We laughed later.
That bird at 1:20 is badass making the Typhoon move out of its lane.
This is why it's a bad idea for crows to go out drinking with their mates.
Separated incredibly tight ? Don’t lie to youngsters. I would love to watch the whole video. It’s perfectly safe distance for aircraft separation.
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I've heard that "TERRAIN! PULL UP!" warning too many times on recovered cockpit voice recorders. 😢
I was yelling "Terrain! Terrain! Pull Up!" during the entire F-18 clip 😮
Great video of aviation!
Great comment!
"Conflicts with terrain". Love it.
Small correction. GPWS doesn't have terrain and runways database. GPWS uses RA, baro altitude, IAS and other inputs to provide GPWS modes 1 to 6. Terrain display and other modern features are provided by EGPWS.
Great video!
I love these vids
Well, as always I enjoy the concept and content of this channel. My main issue seems to be in regard to the caption before the video.
Now, an uneventful day in aviation is a great day in aviation. That said, today's video is another great day in aviation!
Not to belabor the point but doesn't a flock of birds mean more than just one? I will admit that even one bird is 100 percent more the enough to get my attention but I had to play the video twice just to make sure if I missed the "flock" that you described.
Again, I enjoy this channel but please get the captioning to reflect the video. 😊
Great video :-)
You deserve more subs
Those Two planes at the very beginning looked like a Ferris Wheel Of Aviation.....Great Seats!🤣 Speaking of Rides, that F/A-18 was super smooth! Cheers From The Clouds In Ohio To The 3MOA Universe!👋
Ohio lmao
@@aditsaini5094 Glad you enjoyed that Slick! Cheers
@@TheStuport 😃🍻🍻
The A380 is an incredible and beautiful machine. It's a shame it was undone not by poor performance or design flaws, but simply economic unviability.
And yet they're practically all back online and in high demand again now. Times change so fast these days. We don't know if we're coming or going!
Love the video
F/A-18 clip: ever been hiking on the forest trails below and suddenly getting buzzed by this guy?! Yes, you can feel the heat when he passes you...with a sly grin on his face. "Heh-heh-heh. Got 'em."
cant wait for the 3 minutes of ufo's channel
1:44 i guess the new definition of ‘flock’ now means as low as one
This is the comment I was looking for. 😂 There was only one bird-how is that a flock? However, kudos to that pilot for seeing it and “swerving“ to avoid it.
That F-18 fighterpilot,
looking outside his office window
thinking about the stuff he's got to do when he's back home.
we got an extra 3 seconds of aviation 👍
We now got 3" of a nerd
Did you notice that "Carbon Brake" tag in last clip of 737 ?!!
That A330 is the BUTTER MACHINE.
Good Vidéo !
As a former tower controller, that first one? Plenty of room.
2:28 me flying on FSX Steam Edition
The 737 alarms at the end remind me of nuisance car alarms that play all the alarm options in a never ending loop.
Uploader is another queen drama. Please don’t confuse people who’s not aviation related. That is the safe distance between two airplanes. Its called runway efficiency. If you watch the videos from Gatwick Airport you will see it happening every single hour.
0:35 the angle of the camera made it look dramatic, when in reality they were nowhere near for the 777 to force a go around, perfectly safe distance
A380 at take off end of a 2 mile long runway and landing plane at least 1 mile from runway end = at least 3 mile separation....quite normal.
0:22 That Boeing 777 chases the A380 Running in the 90's moment. 😂
1:10 = "Excuse me while I take a moment to gaze at myself flying past this crystal clear lake... thank you. Resume flight!"
Why does the landing gear have ON-OFF-UP? I know what UP means. I guess the wheel is on the end of lever to make it easy to tell that it's for the landing gear?
I beg to differ with the separation of the A380 and 777. All controlled by ATC and a perfectly acceptable separation for single runway operation at a busy airport.
The last one is literally everything you don’t want to hear
Please don't blur out the video when you have captions up.
The F/A-18 footage reminds me of EF2000 (the DOS game). Okay, I'll take my pills now 😅
I think that the first clip may be more of a telephoto lens compression effect; it's a long runway and the planes are probably a mile apart.
You might want to double your estimated distance.
Awesome clips! That first one was but clenching!
That’s Jello flying through the mountains
@FighterPilotPodcast
2:13 BUTTER (#swiss001 landing)
0:21 - maybe had you left the clip intact with the 777 landing, you would have seen its about 30s from the time of rotation to the 777 touching down - more than enough time.
Playing with “ separation” is a safety issue. Cover your “ 6”
Anything can happen, don’t assume, everything will go as Plan.
I think this channel already improved by not insinuating, the last clip stems from a real world case 😅
next step: license the voice of daily dose of internet 🤣
Having flown out of Gatwick, EGKK, for the last 20 years that isn't tight at all!
Plenty of space between aircraft, miss is as good as a mile
Why did that NG have so many warnings firing off? Was it being tested?
Yep. 🙂
Yes
The first one wasn't close at ALL. At a busy airport, that's normal. The 777 could easily go around if something happened to the A380 during takeoff.
That looked like a puff of fire out the back of the Typhoon. They might not have missed all the birds.
Amazing how much that F/A-18 pilot was looking around and yet how little he moved in his seat as he rolled, etc.
He's strapped in very tight. Wide lap belt, shoulders, and crotch belt. He's not going anywhere.
@@lbowsk Oh I figured that. I am just amazed at how good that system works.
Of course, it has to. You wouldn't want to be jostled around all over the cockpit in combat, just like a race car driver with their 5 point harnesses.
Nothing like close between the A380 and 777.
The hornet low level flight is from @fighterpilotpodcast! Great interviews! Highly recommend that channel!
The first clip probably had the ATC saying, "Cleared for takeoff, no delay"
The correct phraseology would be 'Cleared for immediate takeoff'.
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Worst airline
That last segment sounds like the red ring of death on an Xbox 360 😅
Hopefully the last video was only from a maintenance test! 😯😀🤘
that first clip is completely normal there was a lot more time and distance than it looked. it's called busy airports lots of people flying
The last clip was a Ryanair simulator training run.
These cockpit warnings need more urgency and intensity, and they should include expletives and phrases like "we're all going to die! PULL UP!", or "TERRAIN, TERRAIN, we're going to f**king crash". I think this would save lives.
Still like it when it calls the pilots "Retard"
You have to put the controller at fault for the triple coming in too soon after the 380. You seem to imply it's the triple's pilot's fault and that just isn't fair
Plenty of separation. It looks bad just because of the camera angle.
Triple wasn’t close at all….
@@EdOeuna we weren't there. We can't say. From the controller's stand point on the scope, who knows. Have you checked flight radar? But visually it did look like it wasn't an issue, I agree...
@@cal7875 we weren't there. We can't say. From the controller's stand point on the scope, who knows. Have you checked flight radar? But visually it did look like it wasn't an issue, I agree...
@@jmWhyMe - I can’t remember the exact wording, and the rules differ for different classes of aircraft, but there is a rule about the closeness of aircraft when landing. Large commercial airliners can be as close as 2500m, with one aircraft on the runway and their exit is assured, with the other aircraft landing. As for landing and taking off, the rule will be similar, with a similar separation.
Lucky the Boeing 737NG didn't crash, despite the number of warnings 🙃
Plenty of room, I could have gotten another one out!
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In the first video, pretty sure 99% of the people wanted to watch the landing aircraft to see how far in seconds it was, not the underbelly of an A380
I have seen a tighter takeoff and landing situation at San Francisco international airport.
zoom lens foreshortening.
Literally me in MSFS 2020
1:40 hmm the thing do wobble at low air speed
Between 380's takeoff and 777's landing, there's 20 secs or longer, so a distance of 6-7 kms at least. They are not close as they seem.
1:41 Euro-fighter probably scared the $#!t outta them birds.
Conflict with terrain? Another word for that is a crash, I think.
Separation is controlled by ATC, not the pilots….was normal….F 18 wasn’t really low….they made us?! raise our minimum drop height for fire drops from 20 feet to 40 feet…chuckle….and spray height is booms 7ft above crop usually, wheels about three ft….difference is we weren’t going 500kts….whoosh!!!!!!!
The A330 pilot just wanted to avoid a long taxi down the runway...
PULL UP 2:37
All that money and technology and birds can still bring you down. Stay humble, humans.
The tabloid version of aviation short videos strikes again. Nothing unusual in the 1st video, perfectly compliant separation between departing and landing aircraft. You might also want to check the definition of a flock of birds. Hint: it means more than 1 bird.
And wake turbulence!
Wake turbulence only starts to be generated by a departing aircraft from the time at which the nose is lifted on rotate.
Considering that the landing aircraft will touchdown well before the rotate point, then wake turbulence is not an issue hear.
However, if the landing aircraft goes around, then yes, flying through the wake turbulence of the A380 would be an issue.
Obviously, the missed approach/go around procedure on this runway would entail a turn away from any potential wake turbulence issue.
That's not incredibly tight, it's well done by controllers sequencing the aircraft at a busy airport.
I think you'll find there's an O in manoeuvre and the flock of birds was just ONE...whatever 😊
flock of birds.... a bird.
That first segment is really not at all unusual at a busy airport, AND the separation was much further than it appears from that camera angle and zoom.
NOT too close. Pretty standard separation at any busy airport.
Namibia flight altitude countdown:
100, 80, 60, 50, 40, 40, 40, 40, 40, 40, 40....
Come on.... The 777 is 2 miles behind the 380. If he goes around he might fly into wake vortices but he can turn upwind for avoidance.
Wake turbulence is an issue; goodness.
Just out of interest, when does an aircraft start to produce 'wake turbulence' when it's taking off?
Careful with your response, as I already know the answer.
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