Your compositions, the way you used the time of day to paint light, where you chose to stand, your lens choices. Brother, what’s really shines here is you (and the team) The lenses are great and I may buy them, but for anyone reading this, it takes experience and skill to make these lenses look like this. Impeccable.
I appreciate your comment! It's funny, we actually didn't have that much control when we could film. Some days we were up early to catch the light, other days we were at the whim of mid day or park rules. But it is our job to find the best light - especially in a run and gun style.
Nice one✨ Looking forward to the Peru story! And to the comparison w the DZO Vespids. I’m thinking one of these two lens types will be my next lens kit.
its easier to make a "clinical" lens less clinical, than a "characterful" lens clinical. Most of the work I do calls for a cleaner look, for the jobs when I do need something with more character, like you said, I can use some sort of an optical element to change it. Can't wait for the full review, really like how these look already!
🔥🔥🔥 footage looked insane! I think if I was gonna pursue the clean look for a job, these might be the go to. They’re clean but still feel like a step above mirrorless lenses in terms of “charm”.
@@CineDailies it shouldn't really matter too much. People think stuff like K35, Superspeeds, Leica R, Olympus OM etc. is popular because they have 'funky' bokeh, flares, halation or lower contrast but there is pop and image separation that just seems missing from so many of these cheaper lens sets. It is of course difficult to explain exactly what that X factor is but I think there's something to be said for the companies that have figured out how to make 'clean' lenses that still have that dimensionality to them. stuff like tokina vista, signature/master primes and zeiss supremes come to mind. sure, there is merit to having cheap and cheerful lens that is easy to work with but I don't agree that you can add some of the character back through filtration or other means. Your test footage is presented well which is why I feel comfortable commenting on the aesthetic of the lenses specifically. Thanks for taking the time to respond :) Cancel Reply
@@CineDailies That's quite handy to know, thanks! I may just pull the trigger on these and stick a Black Satin filter on the front when I want to soften it a bit.
These range of Nisi lenses will wipe the floor of the competition for at least the near future if I have to guess. They are pretty close to or intelligible from what you can get from the established names' lenses that cost anywhere from 3-4 times or over 10 times as much but clearly a class above all of the budget sub-$1K Chinese lenses or comparably priced still photography lenses in the market today. They remind me very much of the Sony Cinealta line of Super-35 T2.0 set of lenses (probably made by Cosina) I used back nearly 10 years ago on the Canon C100 and some Sony cinema cameras later on such the FS5. Superb build quality, good to excellent resolution for those sub-10 megapixel video specific camera sensors, near zero distortion, near zero to nil focus breathing, no noticeable chromatic aberrations, lateral or longitudinal, no noiceable vignetting at the full T2.0, consistent color rendition, and mostly flawless bokeh rendition (no color fringing edges, no onion rings or flaw spots etc.) They were quite reasonably priced too. Significantly cheaper than comparable lenses from Zeiss or Canon but not as low as these Nisi lens.
Have you tried the 14mm with that front filter adapter they give you? Any issues with vignetting on the full frame FX6 if you put a filter or matte box on the front?
Vignetting is an interesting thing. When filming wide open on lenses that have a large image circle, you'll encounter vignetting. Once you stop down, the illumination will be more even across the frame. putting a screw in the filter on the 14 mill is a little tricky, but I haven’t had any issues with the map box with vignetting
They sure do look lovely and to be a solid investment! Was really considering getting a few but unfortunately they come in all the mounts I don't have haha!
Your footage is great! Down the road I will for sure be looking at these. These are E month lenses, right? I am Sony shooter and have bunch of their lenses, next lens is the 24-70GM (II) since. Cine is that a Zoom H6 you using as your mic? Why, and how it that? I have one of those which I use for my boom, have not thought of using like that though. Thank You!
Yes they are in Emount, RF mount and PL (the ones I own) I was using my h6 because i was to lazy to set up my boom mic ha. I need to get another audio attachment for handle use
@@Nephelangelo funny actually shot with them on a small project the other day. The build quality is amazing! But I feel like they're too clean and lack death. The kind of remind me of the Zeiss CP2s. All that being said I haven't graded the footage yet. Just my initial impression right out of camera.
Nice stuff. I have the SLR Magic APO Microprimes on my C70. I have the 25, 32, 50, and 85. You think they are a better investment than those? They are EF mount and I can use them with my 0.71x speedbooster so they are essentially T1.5 after boosted on my S35 sensor. I paid $2500 for the set on BH Photo as they were slightly used but high grade so perfect condition. I used the 32 in my Tampa video on my channel for a majority of the shoot. Check it out and let me know what you think.
Love the SLR magic APOs. The 25mm was the odd one out with the green shift. I own a s35 camera too - they still look great. I can't say what's better because idk your needs. Are you unhappy with the APOs?
I’ve got the 50 on back order. Current workhorse lens is the Irix 30 1.5. Im torn if I should grab the 35mm or the dzo catta 35-80 instead. Decisions decisions.
these lenses are horrendously underpriced. if you look at what you getting, cine lense housing, focus marking, f stop and focus rings consistent across the whole set, color matched, and low weight, the price makes NO sense at all. It used to happen more in the past, but companies would introduce lenses to test the market, then price correct. I’m almost positive that if there’s an Athena v II, they will NOT be $1k each. Buy them now… seriously ..
Your compositions, the way you used the time of day to paint light, where you chose to stand, your lens choices. Brother, what’s really shines here is you (and the team)
The lenses are great and I may buy them, but for anyone reading this, it takes experience and skill to make these lenses look like this. Impeccable.
I appreciate your comment! It's funny, we actually didn't have that much control when we could film. Some days we were up early to catch the light, other days we were at the whim of mid day or park rules. But it is our job to find the best light - especially in a run and gun style.
Man these are incredible! I love your comment on character not meaning vintage. Love the aesthetic of these a ton!
Thanks bro! And yeah! It's time to rethink how we talk about character in lenses
Wow I'll be eyeing these lenses and all of the content you come out with them!
dope man! more to come
Nice one✨ Looking forward to the Peru story! And to the comparison w the DZO Vespids. I’m thinking one of these two lens types will be my next lens kit.
Solid
Dude! that video intro was sick! Loved it!!!!!
Aw man thank you!!
its easier to make a "clinical" lens less clinical, than a "characterful" lens clinical. Most of the work I do calls for a cleaner look, for the jobs when I do need something with more character, like you said, I can use some sort of an optical element to change it. Can't wait for the full review, really like how these look already!
exactly man, cleaner lenses are more flexible
Love your reviews
Thank you🙇🏽
Great insight. Insane how good these are. Worth the investment!
Thanks fam! yeah crazy how good these are
These shots are fantastic!
Thank you!
Im fanning out hard! I made the Cine Dailies video! Next level! Insane footage.
Haha love it bro! Thanks for your question!
Stoked about these lenses
yeahhhhh buddy
These lenses just produce gorgeous images! For the price they’re a steal!
Seriously!
I’ve had my set for a few weeks now…they are fantastic
Love it
Great breakdown! The market really popping off right now with these and cooke releasing theirs!
It's a good time to be a filmmaker
Your footage from the FX6 looks so good! Really wish you could’ve use the Mavo though!!
Me too but to avoid a Carnet - we rented locally in Peru
For a lens that I own, I’d rather start with a clean base and then add diffusion as needed. These look great!
Totally!
🔥🔥🔥 footage looked insane! I think if I was gonna pursue the clean look for a job, these might be the go to. They’re clean but still feel like a step above mirrorless lenses in terms of “charm”.
Most definitely!
@@CineDailies I don't know about that. they seem to perform totally fine for the price but they still look a little flat to me...
@@deonvnzl sure - could be my grading too lol
@@CineDailies it shouldn't really matter too much. People think stuff like K35, Superspeeds, Leica R, Olympus OM etc. is popular because they have 'funky' bokeh, flares, halation or lower contrast but there is pop and image separation that just seems missing from so many of these cheaper lens sets. It is of course difficult to explain exactly what that X factor is but I think there's something to be said for the companies that have figured out how to make 'clean' lenses that still have that dimensionality to them. stuff like tokina vista, signature/master primes and zeiss supremes come to mind. sure, there is merit to having cheap and cheerful lens that is easy to work with but I don't agree that you can add some of the character back through filtration or other means. Your test footage is presented well which is why I feel comfortable commenting on the aesthetic of the lenses specifically.
Thanks for taking the time to respond :)
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Been eagerly awaiting this video haha, been debating between the Athenas, DZO and CP.2's
The Athena's perform better than the CP.2s in my opinion. The DZO lenses have a bit more character in the flares and focus fall off
@@CineDailies That's quite handy to know, thanks! I may just pull the trigger on these and stick a Black Satin filter on the front when I want to soften it a bit.
That Peru footage is amazing
there so much more haha thank you! the song fits perfect too!
Nice work!
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Yahoo! Planning to buy one sooooon
Use my link! 🙌🏽
Man these lenses are beasts for the price point, it's amazing really.
It really amazing what they did
These range of Nisi lenses will wipe the floor of the competition for at least the near future if I have to guess. They are pretty close to or intelligible from what you can get from the established names' lenses that cost anywhere from 3-4 times or over 10 times as much but clearly a class above all of the budget sub-$1K Chinese lenses or comparably priced still photography lenses in the market today. They remind me very much of the Sony Cinealta line of Super-35 T2.0 set of lenses (probably made by Cosina) I used back nearly 10 years ago on the Canon C100 and some Sony cinema cameras later on such the FS5. Superb build quality, good to excellent resolution for those sub-10 megapixel video specific camera sensors, near zero distortion, near zero to nil focus breathing, no noticeable chromatic aberrations, lateral or longitudinal, no noiceable vignetting at the full T2.0, consistent color rendition, and mostly flawless bokeh rendition (no color fringing edges, no onion rings or flaw spots etc.) They were quite reasonably priced too. Significantly cheaper than comparable lenses from Zeiss or Canon but not as low as these Nisi lens.
Beautiful 😍
Totally!
Congrats on the nat geo project!! Do you have another video talking about that?
It'll be coming soon!
Great video! had a quick question do you know which PL to L-Mount adapter will work with these lenes?
Thanks for watching! I don't know at the moment but I can an answer
Hi bro, pre booking pl and e mount 2 kits l, how does this compare to CP3 and do we get PL to E adaptor.
The preform similar to the CP3s. And no you need to purchase your own PL to Emount
Have you tried the 14mm with that front filter adapter they give you? Any issues with vignetting on the full frame FX6 if you put a filter or matte box on the front?
Vignetting is an interesting thing. When filming wide open on lenses that have a large image circle, you'll encounter vignetting. Once you stop down, the illumination will be more even across the frame.
putting a screw in the filter on the 14 mill is a little tricky, but I haven’t had any issues with the map box with vignetting
Bro… give me my bucket list back 🤦🏾♂️ 😂 amazing man
Hahahhaa thanks fam
Awesome video! If you could get only one of these lenses for an FX30 which one would it be?
hmmmmmmmmm the 14mm :)
Awesome!Thank you@@CineDailies
nice cinematography
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paused the vid after 1:00 minute to comment this... THIS IS GORGEOUS!!!! (alright continuing the video)
hahah ayyyyeee
What PL to E-mount adapter did you use for the FX6?
How do you feel these compare to the SLR APO primes regarding character?
Hey man, nice review video. Just curious what PL to E mount adaptor are you using? Cheers H
The meta bones adapter
Great video. Athena's look nice. I shoot Canon C70's S35. Hmmm. Interested.
Holy Dead Cat... how windy was it in there??
It's like a hurricane 🤣
They sure do look lovely and to be a solid investment! Was really considering getting a few but unfortunately they come in all the mounts I don't have haha!
You can totally do PL to L mount! Haha
@@CineDailies Haha too many adapters already! Wouldn’t mind trying them out at some point though :)
I'm all Sony so the E-Mount is smarter for me. Plus they might be coming out with a back lens VND insert which would be dope for my FX3.
Sounds like a plan
Your footage is great! Down the road I will for sure be looking at these. These are E month lenses, right? I am Sony shooter and have bunch of their lenses, next lens is the 24-70GM (II) since.
Cine is that a Zoom H6 you using as your mic? Why, and how it that? I have one of those which I use for my boom, have not thought of using like that though. Thank You!
Yes they are in Emount, RF mount and PL (the ones I own)
I was using my h6 because i was to lazy to set up my boom mic ha. I need to get another audio attachment for handle use
@@CineDailies Cine book mic are super duper easy to set up. What’s your set up Holmes? By the way are those lens manual lenses?
@@garfieldmtify yes all of the lenses are manual
Great video! Would you say these lenses are heavy?
They are light
Amazing footage! Would love to see how they pair with the Kinefinity.
Yep that is coming!
@@CineDailies looking forward to it!
Can anyone give me their thoughts on these lenses vs the IRIX set? I shoot with the BMPCC 6k FF
does the PL mount protrusion affect the FX6 built in ND ?
Nope
Yeah.. the NiSi Athenas are niiiice.
Reeeaalll niiicceee
I would love a set of these on my BMPCC 6K Pro, what adapters could make this work?
You'll have to replace the EF mount to PL on the 6k pro. Wooden camera makes the PL mount
Nisi 35mm (50mm in FF) or 50mm (75mm in FF) for the FX30? I got two lens already that covers these focal length
So why do you need the athena’s? Are you switching sets?
Why do you have a deadcat indoors? I like these lens. Very interesting. I wonder how they look on Reds and Arris. Good vid. Very informative.
My kids hind my pop filter
@@CineDailies 🤣 enough said.
would the PL work on Canon C200, C300 with EF adapter ?
Not sure - the SLR magic PL to ef adaptor is an option but I'm not sure if it'll give the proper flange distance
Is there aтн chance that you will shoot with these lenses on Blackmagic cameras?
Not any time soon
NiSi is supposedly making rear element filters for the PL.
Yep they are
Which camera you used for footage
The fx6. Did you watch the video? Lol
Is it me or did the Llama wink at me? 😂
Might have hahhaa
yeh, that freaked me out 😅
Does the “clinical-ness” of these lenses compare to the sigma art line? (I know the ergonomics are completely different. Just curious about the look)
I don't think they do but Based on what you watched, you tell me.
@@CineDailies I’m sure the low CA on the Athena’s puts them a step above 🙂 I’d love to try them out myself soon!
Prolly my 5th time watching this btw
🙇🏽🙇🏽🙇🏽
Who color graded your footage and it what software?
I did, its more of a color correction lol I'm basic. Davinci
Are these lenses coming for the L mount?
I'm not sure
The optics are nice I just feel like they lack so much contrast. I feel like the shadows look a little muddy. But still a cool lens.
4:56 Contrast looks pretty darn solid to me here. Other shots not as rich in contrast but a matte box might do the trick there.
@@Nephelangelo funny actually shot with them on a small project the other day. The build quality is amazing! But I feel like they're too clean and lack death. The kind of remind me of the Zeiss CP2s. All that being said I haven't graded the footage yet. Just my initial impression right out of camera.
Let me know what you think of them when you grade. 👍 @@SQUAWWW
Are you using the Wooden Camera PL Mount?
For the fx6? I'm using a metabones PL to E mount
But for my Xh2s I'm using the wooden camera PL
An 18mm is comming as well
Oh sick
Nice stuff. I have the SLR Magic APO Microprimes on my C70. I have the 25, 32, 50, and 85. You think they are a better investment than those? They are EF mount and I can use them with my 0.71x speedbooster so they are essentially T1.5 after boosted on my S35 sensor. I paid $2500 for the set on BH Photo as they were slightly used but high grade so perfect condition. I used the 32 in my Tampa video on my channel for a majority of the shoot. Check it out and let me know what you think.
Love the SLR magic APOs. The 25mm was the odd one out with the green shift. I own a s35 camera too - they still look great.
I can't say what's better because idk your needs. Are you unhappy with the APOs?
WHAT IM TALM BOUT!!!
YESSIR
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I’ve got the 50 on back order.
Current workhorse lens is the Irix 30 1.5.
Im torn if I should grab the 35mm or the dzo catta 35-80 instead.
Decisions decisions.
Why not just stick with irix? It isnt always smart to mix lenses before getting the sets first
@@CineDailies I like the idea of being able to swap out the 50 and 35 nisi and not have to move the follow focus and keep everything the same.
@@stevieweir8988 cool cool
The crazy thing is if you did a blind test most of the viewers couldn’t tell a 200 dollar lens from a 20000 dollar lens me included
The difference between the two is in the details haha
@@CineDailies 😤🤝
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Zoom in for a cameo. 👁️
these lenses are horrendously underpriced. if you look at what you getting, cine lense housing, focus marking, f stop and focus rings consistent across the whole set, color matched, and low weight, the price makes NO sense at all. It used to happen more in the past, but companies would introduce lenses to test the market, then price correct. I’m almost positive that if there’s an Athena v II, they will NOT be $1k each. Buy them now… seriously ..
You said it
Crazy how you get all that quality for that price. It’s a lot💸, but at the same time, it’s not a lot at all if that makes sense🫣
for sure - to get quality like this for $1000 is unheard of. Zeiss and sigma prime quality