I’m working on becoming fully vegan right now. It’s been something I have to approach slowly so that I learn the recipes and how to build a proper plant based diet while also loving the food. But so far I’m very happy with this transition
Mike you are a freaking boss 😎 I know the Vegan debates are the most frustrating because people use the most moronic arguments to justify cruelty to animals but what you do is so important. People are highly uneducated but we need you. The animals need you. Thank you 🫶
Did you know that animals are graped in the process of producing meat and dairy? There are valid reasons to bring up grape, you are abusing animals and have nothing but complaints in response. Pathetic
@@mikebrigandi_ Just weird. Topic: Veganism. Poster: Talks about why they eat meat. You: So about Dog grape.... It's the same weirdness I get from Christians who want to bring up Bestiality in every morality conversation.
@@technomancermagus8357 not weird it’s reality. You are causing others to be raped and abused. It’s reality. The true religion here is meat eating though, where you don’t question anything you do, succumb to what’s normalized and never understand who you are affecting.
@@mikebrigandi_ Kinda projecting there man. Eating meat isn't something I think about or try to preach to others about how they should follow my moral code and they are wrong for believing the way they do. I've never tried to convert a vegan into eating meat. That's something religions do, you know try to convert others... and Vegans.
@@technomancermagus8357 The only religion here is meat eating, you have no consideration for the harm and abuse you cause, you blindly follow the norm, never questioning, preaching the idea that everyone who doesn't eat meat is religious. How hypocritical, short sighted, and inconsiderate. Stop abusing others
It’s pretty likely that *optimal* health for many people can only be achieved through animal nutrition. Imagine person #1, who eats a vegan diet full of the best plant foods. Leafy greens, beans/legumes, berries, citrus, whole grains, etc Now compare them to person #2 with the same genetics who also adds in a few oysters per day, and supercharges their Zinc, B12, Taurine, n-2 position DHA omega3, retinol, heme iron, iodine, choline etc intake in addition to many other peptides/highly absorbable protein. Which person is healthier? We know the nutrients I just listed off are associated with numerous health benefits and lower risk of illnesses. Now person #1 could try and dissect all the benefits of oysters into supplements but 1) they are expensive 2) quality isn’t ensured as they aren’t FDA regulated and 3) we aren’t sure what cofactors/forms of nutrients in the oysters aren’t being replicated by the supplements. Perhaps even the forms of said supplements are irritating to the gut, stressing the body. All of that trouble when you could have just eaten a $3.99 pack of smoked oysters …. Or a can of sardines …. Or some quality pastured eggs. So who is healthier? The vegan trying desperately to fill the gaps in their diet with synthetic supplements? Or the person who eats both the best plant foods and animal foods, including things like goat milk, seafood, bison, pastures eggs, etc. I think we all know the answer to this question…
@@mikebrigandi_You didn’t address my argument. I posed the question whether someone is healthier as a supplemented vegan, or using the healthiest animal foods rather than supplements - because you can’t get all the nutrients I listed off as a vegan without supplements. The studies you mention are marred by the confounding factor of health consciousness. When you compare vegans who tend to be health conscious to meat eaters who don’t, the results are unsurprising. Equally unsurprising is the fact that in blue zone regions, the healthiest animal foods that I mentioned are consumed. I’m not telling people to eat processed sausages and chicken nuggets, I’m telling them to eat wild caught salmon etc … OBJECTIVELY healthy foods.
@@mikebrigandi_if you want to be “just as healthy” as the average disease addled populations of the west, go right ahead. Meanwhile, I’ll advise my future patients to chase optimal health instead, by consuming the healthiest foods from every food group.
@@mikebrigandi_if your goal is to be “just as healthy” as the disease addled western population, more power to ya I guess. But don’t chastise those chasing optimal health and complete nutrition.
"If you show me that one person being vegan saves even 1 cow's life, I'll go vegan right now." @33:37 There is an easy answer to this. Supply chains have COMPUTERS now to predict exactly how many animals should be impregnated to meet current demand. So, if the demand decreases by one animal, then their computers will communicate to the supply chain to adjust accordingly. So back to our world, let's say there is cow steak on the meat aisle. And lets say the meat section ALMOST over-produced by one cow and was ALMOST losing profit on producing this cow, but the threshold is just one steak purchase, and that would make them break even. Well, in that case, you NOT buying that steak would therefore be enough for them to say, okay, we overproduced this time around. Let's produce one less this time. Maybe easier to understand is chicken, since they are smaller and have a more concrete impact. A meat eater can buy multiple of these birds per month. If a store suddenly was, on average, selling 3010 chickens per month, but then their computer started to communicate that they are now selling on average 3000 chickens per month, that is the data they will send to the hatchery in order to impregnate chickens appropriately. It's very easy to be granular with these things when record keeping is so easy these days.
As a woman I need animal protein and animal based iron to function and be healthy. So yes, as much as I love animals I need them to survive. Not willing to sacrifice my life. Besides it’s the circle of life. I’m against factory farming and animal cruelty but not against eating meat.
Protein is a combination of amino acids , you can get protein from eating plants ...check out his video done with Dr. Matthew niagra, you will get all your answers.. and veganism is not about loving animals ,it's about not violating the rights of non human people...
Sometimes when people aren’t able to absorb enough iron from their diets it’s because they don’t eat enough vitamin C. Eat your fruits and greens to help absorb iron and also many greens have iron to begin with. Two birds one stone
@@mikebrigandi_ nope not true. I suffer from anemia so I’m very well informed on what the body actually needs to be well when it comes to iron. We need heme iron, which can only be found in animals. You can try to tell me all day long to just eat plants but my body disagrees with you. Non heme just doesn’t cut it, especially for women.
@@jordanv3323 this is true, you need vitamin C to properly absorb iron. Taking the right kind of iron is also important. You need heme iron for optimal health.
How inconsiderate can you be? Your excuse for raping and abusing animals is that our ancestors did it? Do you not see the unnecessary harm you are causing? We no longer have to kill animals, stop the madness
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I’m working on becoming fully vegan right now. It’s been something I have to approach slowly so that I learn the recipes and how to build a proper plant based diet while also loving the food. But so far I’m very happy with this transition
Mike you are a freaking boss 😎
I know the Vegan debates are the most frustrating because people use the most moronic arguments to justify cruelty to animals but what you do is so important. People are highly uneducated but we need you. The animals need you.
Thank you 🫶
How do people not understand how supply and demand works?! Did they all skip economics class?! 😭
Thank you for calling out speciesism. Not enough people do.
Vegans and The Highly Religious - Jumping to Animal Grape for Morality Arguments at the drop of a hat.
Did you know that animals are graped in the process of producing meat and dairy? There are valid reasons to bring up grape, you are abusing animals and have nothing but complaints in response. Pathetic
@@mikebrigandi_ Just weird.
Topic: Veganism.
Poster: Talks about why they eat meat.
You: So about Dog grape....
It's the same weirdness I get from Christians who want to bring up Bestiality in every morality conversation.
@@technomancermagus8357 not weird it’s reality. You are causing others to be raped and abused. It’s reality. The true religion here is meat eating though, where you don’t question anything you do, succumb to what’s normalized and never understand who you are affecting.
@@mikebrigandi_ Kinda projecting there man. Eating meat isn't something I think about or try to preach to others about how they should follow my moral code and they are wrong for believing the way they do. I've never tried to convert a vegan into eating meat. That's something religions do, you know try to convert others... and Vegans.
@@technomancermagus8357 The only religion here is meat eating, you have no consideration for the harm and abuse you cause, you blindly follow the norm, never questioning, preaching the idea that everyone who doesn't eat meat is religious. How hypocritical, short sighted, and inconsiderate. Stop abusing others
It’s pretty likely that *optimal* health for many people can only be achieved through animal nutrition.
Imagine person #1, who eats a vegan diet full of the best plant foods. Leafy greens, beans/legumes, berries, citrus, whole grains, etc
Now compare them to person #2 with the same genetics who also adds in a few oysters per day, and supercharges their Zinc, B12, Taurine, n-2 position DHA omega3, retinol, heme iron, iodine, choline etc intake in addition to many other peptides/highly absorbable protein.
Which person is healthier? We know the nutrients I just listed off are associated with numerous health benefits and lower risk of illnesses. Now person #1 could try and dissect all the benefits of oysters into supplements but 1) they are expensive 2) quality isn’t ensured as they aren’t FDA regulated and 3) we aren’t sure what cofactors/forms of nutrients in the oysters aren’t being replicated by the supplements. Perhaps even the forms of said supplements are irritating to the gut, stressing the body. All of that trouble when you could have just eaten a $3.99 pack of smoked oysters …. Or a can of sardines …. Or some quality pastured eggs.
So who is healthier? The vegan trying desperately to fill the gaps in their diet with synthetic supplements? Or the person who eats both the best plant foods and animal foods, including things like goat milk, seafood, bison, pastures eggs, etc.
I think we all know the answer to this question…
@@moriorinvictus5569 You can get all nutrients you need as a vegan. vegans typically have lower rates of disease than flesh eaters
@@mikebrigandi_You didn’t address my argument. I posed the question whether someone is healthier as a supplemented vegan, or using the healthiest animal foods rather than supplements - because you can’t get all the nutrients I listed off as a vegan without supplements.
The studies you mention are marred by the confounding factor of health consciousness. When you compare vegans who tend to be health conscious to meat eaters who don’t, the results are unsurprising. Equally unsurprising is the fact that in blue zone regions, the healthiest animal foods that I mentioned are consumed.
I’m not telling people to eat processed sausages and chicken nuggets, I’m telling them to eat wild caught salmon etc … OBJECTIVELY healthy foods.
@@moriorinvictus5569 it’s completely irrelevant. Veganism is an ethical choice not a diet. All the evidence shows vegans can be just as healthy
@@mikebrigandi_if you want to be “just as healthy” as the average disease addled populations of the west, go right ahead. Meanwhile, I’ll advise my future patients to chase optimal health instead, by consuming the healthiest foods from every food group.
@@mikebrigandi_if your goal is to be “just as healthy” as the disease addled western population, more power to ya I guess. But don’t chastise those chasing optimal health and complete nutrition.
"If you show me that one person being vegan saves even 1 cow's life, I'll go vegan right now." @33:37
There is an easy answer to this. Supply chains have COMPUTERS now to predict exactly how many animals should be impregnated to meet current demand. So, if the demand decreases by one animal, then their computers will communicate to the supply chain to adjust accordingly.
So back to our world, let's say there is cow steak on the meat aisle. And lets say the meat section ALMOST over-produced by one cow and was ALMOST losing profit on producing this cow, but the threshold is just one steak purchase, and that would make them break even. Well, in that case, you NOT buying that steak would therefore be enough for them to say, okay, we overproduced this time around. Let's produce one less this time.
Maybe easier to understand is chicken, since they are smaller and have a more concrete impact. A meat eater can buy multiple of these birds per month. If a store suddenly was, on average, selling 3010 chickens per month, but then their computer started to communicate that they are now selling on average 3000 chickens per month, that is the data they will send to the hatchery in order to impregnate chickens appropriately. It's very easy to be granular with these things when record keeping is so easy these days.
Plants feel pain and respond to stimuli. They are sentient. We just try to make them seem dumb. Thus, a bteathairan has the best mortality
Give me one source that demonstrates plants feel pain. You cant
Dude around the hour mark was one of the most disgusting and disturbing guests you've ever had on here
You should debate carnivoremd
Animals eat animals and that’s ok.
Animals rape animals. Is rape okay to you?
@@mikebrigandi_ 🤣
@@mikebrigandi_ are animals in the wrong for killing for food that they need to survive?
@@truemenentoflife1721 Animals dont have options, we do. Thats the difference
@@mikebrigandi_ they do have the option. They could eat plants if they wanted but they would get ugly and skinny, exact same for humans
Vegans are viewing plants the same way most humans view animals.
and how’s that ?
Humans are An animal. Animals can suffer and feel pain
My justification: animals are delicious. If we shouldn't eat animals, why is this the case?
Taste is a bad reason to kill someone, If humans were delicious would you eat humans?
@@mikebrigandi_ in one word: prions.
@@psycron01 so if there were no concern of prions you would think its okay to farm humans and slaughter them or food?
@@mikebrigandi_ animals are "someone"? I get that animals are mammals, but you're taking conflation to another level.
@@mikebrigandi_ Are we equal to all other mammals? Why do they eat each other?
49:11 dude not getting 200g of protein eating fish and dear.
As a woman I need animal protein and animal based iron to function and be healthy. So yes, as much as I love animals I need them to survive. Not willing to sacrifice my life. Besides it’s the circle of life. I’m against factory farming and animal cruelty but not against eating meat.
Protein is a combination of amino acids , you can get protein from eating plants ...check out his video done with Dr. Matthew niagra, you will get all your answers.. and veganism is not about loving animals ,it's about not violating the rights of non human people...
Iron and protein can be had in sufficient amounts as a vegan, leafy greens, nuts seeds, beans etc
Sometimes when people aren’t able to absorb enough iron from their diets it’s because they don’t eat enough vitamin C. Eat your fruits and greens to help absorb iron and also many greens have iron to begin with. Two birds one stone
@@mikebrigandi_ nope not true. I suffer from anemia so I’m very well informed on what the body actually needs to be well when it comes to iron. We need heme iron, which can only be found in animals. You can try to tell me all day long to just eat plants but my body disagrees with you. Non heme just doesn’t cut it, especially for women.
@@jordanv3323 this is true, you need vitamin C to properly absorb iron. Taking the right kind of iron is also important. You need heme iron for optimal health.
Mike this is one topic i dont agree with you on. Veganism is healthy long term. Our ancestors ate meat even if it was in smaller amounts
How inconsiderate can you be? Your excuse for raping and abusing animals is that our ancestors did it? Do you not see the unnecessary harm you are causing? We no longer have to kill animals, stop the madness
i just dont fw veggies
@@mikebrigandi_ im eating steak fingers, its so good fr😇🙏
1:03:02 crazy
Would you agree to fight me in a cage match or boxing?
Farming animals is justified by God. You cannot give a justification that’s it’s cruel without an objective standard to appeal too. Game over.
Lmao, justified by god?? 😂😂😂
If "god" said that eating people was okay would you eat people?
@@mikebrigandi_
Impossible hypothetical.
@mikebrigandi_ eat poeple? Bro be FR..💀
@@breambo3835 impossible, why? Because you, some random entity, happen to say so? Why should I blindly believe you?
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