The source of the 27:00 caller is Ted Nugent. Very credible. There are so many answers to the crop deaths issue: 1 - When I buy a carrot, I don't know if an animal was killed, maybe it was, but that was never my intention. While, when I buy bacon, I definetly wanted a pig to be choped up. 2 - Comparing crop deaths to intentionally killing an animal is like me hunting squirrels in the street, someone stop me and say "hey, stop doing that" and I answer "But do you see how many squirrels are being killed by road kills?????" 3 - Estimation of animals killed for food in the world, if you account for fish, is 3-4 trillion. If you only account for land animals are 80 billion. Total account for crop deaths, including pesticides in the ocean, is 8 billion. 4 - Higher estimation of crop deaths is 1 animal per million calories. Which would be roughly 1 animal per human per year. Estimation of animals killed per omnivore are 300-400 animals per year 5 - When you consider crop deaths you need to consider the crops used to feed the animals. Thats 37% of all crops in the world. And this would give only 12% of worlds calories. So, if you eat animals you are killing the animals in the crop field + the ones that goes to slaughterhouse... There are many more good answers, but I don't remember anymore. 4 years vegan here and I lost my patience with this crop deaths business already....
1 animal die per ingredient on a salad???? And that guy mentioned he lived on a farm??? That was ridiculous, imagine riding a combine harvaster, and you need to stop and clean the harvester for each carrot that was blocked by a mouse 😢😢😢😢😢
35:20 I feel like you have to control your emotions more, this person was trying to have a good and educated conversation but you kept being very snappy. You’re hella defensive, and seeing other guest, like the people before, I see why you get hella defensive fast but they’re just dumb but idk, keep promoting less suffering for innocent animals 🙏❤️
I do understand that being vegan puts a target on your back basically but still, you are hella informed and passionate about this 🙏 keep up the good work
29:20 u keep quot9ng this. The study says reduce ag land by 75%. This is mostly in grazing land which isn't crops. It's not rights violation to protect property such as termites eating your home or animals eating crops. Or if u killsarmy of humans trying to invade and take over your country
I’m going to debunk your most common arguments “It’s rape to take a cows milk” The definition of rape is: “a type of sexual assault involving sexual intercourse or other forms of sexual penetration carried out against a person without their consent.” By your definition, breastfeeding is rape and the baby should be put in prison. And farmers milks cows and the cows still run up against them and love them. Also if a cow is not milked or has a baby drinking its milk it will feel pain. Eventually they do stop producing milk after they give birth tho. They only produce milk while pregnant and a bit after they give birth. “People take baby animals and slaughter them” Nope. Wrong. Studies show that rarely happens. “They are killed in painful ways” Nope. I believe slaughter houses mostly kill them in painless ways. “We are humans and they are just animals” Science says we are also a type of animal… and animals kill each other all the time. I don’t think you can tell a lion to be vegan without it mauling you. Have you ever stepped on a bug before? If so, you ain’t an animal lover. Maybe make these claims on Reddit, or ask Reddit if these claims are true. r/NoStupidQuestions and r/AskReddit should be some good places to ask.
@@Intergalactic-v5z breastfeeding is justified as it’s important for baby health. Cows are being forcibly penetrated for no reason. All animals are slaughter needlessly. That’s wrong period. And we don’t get morals from lions, we have choices they don’t
@@mikebrigandi_ taking milk from a cow isn’t penetration… and the animals I’m pretty sure are given a painless death. Would you rather us be cannibals? Oh and btw, milk from cows is important for our health too. Literally the earliest humans survived on meat. Are you saying lions don’t have a choice because they need meat to survive? Okay, then let’s take a fox or wolf for example. Foxes and wolves are omnivores, so can they be vegan? But tbh I don’t care. Just see don’t force your lifestyle on us. Animals kill other animals. We are scientifically animals. I don’t really care.
@@Intergalactic-v5z look up what artificial insemination is. It’s forced penetration. And a fox still can’t make rational choices. Animals don’t have stores like we have stores.
@@mikebrigandi_ okay I don’t agree with forced penetration. That’s strange. But a fox can make choices. Yes they don’t have stores like us where they can get food easily, but plants to eat are very easy to find for a fox or wolf. Animals are also easy for them to find. If it wasn’t easy, then by now all foxes and wolves would die. Listen, I’m an animal lover. I would never kill an animal myself, but if said animal is already dead well… it’s already dead. But just please don’t force your lifestyle on people.
@@Intergalactic-v5z How can you claim to be an "animal lover" yet subject them to abuse and death? Also when you claim that we dont kill babies animals, What do you think happens to lambs and male chickens? Another claim you made is that slaughterhouses majority of the time kill animals in a painless ways. Can you demonstrate that?
You know he is cooking when people start to talk about something irrelevant that has nothing to do with the debate😂
I love your style of debating! 🔥🔥🔥
I hate when other hosts let guests ramble and allow people to make false claims.
LEAVE THE ANIMALS ALONE !
day 10 of listening to mike while i work
That first caller is why I love these 😂
seeking shelter under 'ableism', these omnis are desperate
The source of the 27:00 caller is Ted Nugent. Very credible.
There are so many answers to the crop deaths issue:
1 - When I buy a carrot, I don't know if an animal was killed, maybe it was, but that was never my intention. While, when I buy bacon, I definetly wanted a pig to be choped up.
2 - Comparing crop deaths to intentionally killing an animal is like me hunting squirrels in the street, someone stop me and say "hey, stop doing that" and I answer "But do you see how many squirrels are being killed by road kills?????"
3 - Estimation of animals killed for food in the world, if you account for fish, is 3-4 trillion. If you only account for land animals are 80 billion. Total account for crop deaths, including pesticides in the ocean, is 8 billion.
4 - Higher estimation of crop deaths is 1 animal per million calories. Which would be roughly 1 animal per human per year. Estimation of animals killed per omnivore are 300-400 animals per year
5 - When you consider crop deaths you need to consider the crops used to feed the animals. Thats 37% of all crops in the world. And this would give only 12% of worlds calories. So, if you eat animals you are killing the animals in the crop field + the ones that goes to slaughterhouse...
There are many more good answers, but I don't remember anymore. 4 years vegan here and I lost my patience with this crop deaths business already....
People are animals, people eat animals, human meat is a digestible renewable protein, nothing wrong with eating human
1 animal die per ingredient on a salad???? And that guy mentioned he lived on a farm???
That was ridiculous, imagine riding a combine harvaster, and you need to stop and clean the harvester for each carrot that was blocked by a mouse 😢😢😢😢😢
59:24 😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂
1:17:57 where is the data that shows an acre of crop land kills more than acre of grassland or wildland?
35:20 I feel like you have to control your emotions more, this person was trying to have a good and educated conversation but you kept being very snappy. You’re hella defensive, and seeing other guest, like the people before, I see why you get hella defensive fast but they’re just dumb but idk, keep promoting less suffering for innocent animals 🙏❤️
I do understand that being vegan puts a target on your back basically but still, you are hella informed and passionate about this 🙏 keep up the good work
29:20 u keep quot9ng this. The study says reduce ag land by 75%. This is mostly in grazing land which isn't crops.
It's not rights violation to protect property such as termites eating your home or animals eating crops. Or if u killsarmy of humans trying to invade and take over your country
I’m going to debunk your most common arguments
“It’s rape to take a cows milk”
The definition of rape is: “a type of sexual assault involving sexual intercourse or other forms of sexual penetration carried out against a person without their consent.”
By your definition, breastfeeding is rape and the baby should be put in prison. And farmers milks cows and the cows still run up against them and love them. Also if a cow is not milked or has a baby drinking its milk it will feel pain. Eventually they do stop producing milk after they give birth tho. They only produce milk while pregnant and a bit after they give birth.
“People take baby animals and slaughter them”
Nope. Wrong. Studies show that rarely happens.
“They are killed in painful ways”
Nope. I believe slaughter houses mostly kill them in painless ways.
“We are humans and they are just animals”
Science says we are also a type of animal… and animals kill each other all the time. I don’t think you can tell a lion to be vegan without it mauling you.
Have you ever stepped on a bug before? If so, you ain’t an animal lover.
Maybe make these claims on Reddit, or ask Reddit if these claims are true. r/NoStupidQuestions and r/AskReddit should be some good places to ask.
@@Intergalactic-v5z breastfeeding is justified as it’s important for baby health. Cows are being forcibly penetrated for no reason. All animals are slaughter needlessly. That’s wrong period. And we don’t get morals from lions, we have choices they don’t
@@mikebrigandi_ taking milk from a cow isn’t penetration… and the animals I’m pretty sure are given a painless death. Would you rather us be cannibals? Oh and btw, milk from cows is important for our health too. Literally the earliest humans survived on meat.
Are you saying lions don’t have a choice because they need meat to survive? Okay, then let’s take a fox or wolf for example. Foxes and wolves are omnivores, so can they be vegan?
But tbh I don’t care. Just see don’t force your lifestyle on us. Animals kill other animals. We are scientifically animals. I don’t really care.
@@Intergalactic-v5z look up what artificial insemination is. It’s forced penetration. And a fox still can’t make rational choices. Animals don’t have stores like we have stores.
@@mikebrigandi_ okay I don’t agree with forced penetration. That’s strange. But a fox can make choices. Yes they don’t have stores like us where they can get food easily, but plants to eat are very easy to find for a fox or wolf. Animals are also easy for them to find. If it wasn’t easy, then by now all foxes and wolves would die. Listen, I’m an animal lover. I would never kill an animal myself, but if said animal is already dead well… it’s already dead. But just please don’t force your lifestyle on people.
@@Intergalactic-v5z How can you claim to be an "animal lover" yet subject them to abuse and death?
Also when you claim that we dont kill babies animals,
What do you think happens to lambs and male chickens?
Another claim you made is that slaughterhouses majority of the time kill animals in a painless ways.
Can you demonstrate that?