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This lady definitely isn't crazy. She paid attention to her body, got screened, and knew her family history.
let alone if she brought family history as a reason up first, would have been enough to take action.
@@30pranaypawar17 Yeah, where's the problem with her actions? I was expecting some sort of crazy ending...
But while you're researching make sure you understand what you're getting yourself into in terms of the investigations (likely invasive) that will need to be performed in order to get that diagnosis you're looking for (or paranoid about)
@@susie9893 😂 i know u talking about colonoscopy...
@@Dosbomber me too, expected a crazy unexpected ending, it wasnt any crazy, yet unexpected. I also had an paranoia because i felt a lump. It was just a simple infection that got away after few weeks of antibiotics. But, google kept me awake the whole night before appointment. 🤤💀
The first guy is usually the one you get. The 2nd guy is the one you really want.
THIS.
I got the 2nd guy once, it was the safest I've ever felt with a surgery, and with a doc in general. The nurses were also the best!
This 🙏😭 I have been to three doctors about concerns, and I keep getting the "you're too young", I'm 30... I don't think so
Indeed I once went 5+ months with them telling me I had a virus when my gallbladder was’t working properly and every time they did an ultrasound it was collapsed which none of them found odd the one doctor that took it out after I was told it needs to be removed immediately ended up chewing the staff out that diagnosed me with a virus for five months 😂
@@reguin7684 I went 3yrs and it was my gallbladder. I kept telling my doctor how much pain I was in, she stopped seeing me and I got handed around to different colleges and no help. I went to my mom and she said it's your gallbladder so I went back to the doctors told them it's my gallbladder and they did nothing. I found a different doctor and I went in crying told him of my pain and what was done up to now, he said why do you think it's your gallbladder and I said my mom says it is. He sent me away crying in pain. I went to the hospital that night because I couldn't breathe and a doctor I'd never seen before listen to me FINALLY and did an ultrasound and took me right into surgery. I am now pain free but in 80,000 in debt. 😬
IF IT'S IN YOUR FAMILY, YOU'RE NOT CRAZY FOR WANTING TO GET CHECKED
Yeah, but people make you feel like you’re crazy. I refuse to get checked for arthritis because of it. Even if it hurts to move sometimes.
…despite the fact that my mother was diagnosed at nineteen - I’m nineteen - and my biological grandmother recently had to have a hip replacement.
I’m young and overweight. They’d tell me to move more and lose weight and move on.
@@MitsumiUSBMouseYou are seen and you are loved! I really hope you find a doctor that you're comfortable sharing these concerns with. Body shaming is such a pain (no pun intended)!
@@MitsumiUSBMousefind a different doctor you giving up too fast
Especially if you have symptoms.
@@MitsumiUSBMouseIt's probably worth getting checked anyways, even if you get a really dismissive and disrespectful physician, on the chance that they're not one and you do have arthritis.
Although even if you do have arthritis, your doctor will probably suggest you perform arthritis-safe exercises and lose weight anyways, as part of managing your arthritis. Being overweight and a lot of physical inactivity will make it worse.
She didn't self diagnose. She took a symptom that made her uncomfortable, did research, looked into her family history and went to get checked. She did the right thing ❤️❤️❤️
I'm planing to do this too. Ive always thought I had ADHD, parents dismissed it but still. I looked in my family history and my tia(aunt) and younger cousin both have it and I knew about genetics and it passing but skiping a gen then just took a test for it and it said that I might have it so next doc appt I'll ask
Has nothing to do with your comment
But hi fellow PJO fan
@@WillSolaceIsASwiftieyooooooo
@@RandomTheAthenaDemigod heyyyy
That is exactly what self diagnosing is though. It's looking at family history, your body, past and current behaviours and doing research. Getting an official diagnosis is a privilege and you need to self diagnose to some extent in order to get help anyway.
She didn’t self diagnose on webmd, she literally went to a medical center to get professionally diagnosed after reading on webmd. Perfectly done
*and* she had a reasonable concern considering her dad died of colon cancer and it can be genetic!
exactly. It never hurts to be safe, especially if you have a family history of it
Thank you 3 for being truly actually reasonable people!!
@@mxngos7493 yeah, my doctor said she wanted to send me to psychology because of the pain I was going through, I used to be an asthma wrestler, and I fucked up my shoulder and my neck, and ever since I’ve stop, the pain has just been getting worse and worse, she never looked at my shoulder or anything closest I got was an x-ray, and the first thing that happened when I went a different doctor and she looked at my arm. She immediately noticed the muscles in my fucked up arm is going away depending on what goes on. I’m going to end up sending that doctors office an email because of her lack of care for even wanting to physically look at my injury I also found out she has a history of not doing much with patients.
And the doctor treated her right instead of following the dramatic character in the beginning
I WISH DOCTORS WERE LIKE THIS
Me fucking too (one doctor I went and saw for my problems literally just did a pregnancy test on me even though I said I was losing weight and throwing up and I have had it for years )
❤❤❤❤
True
Me: i am diagnosed with cyclical vomiting syndrome[CVS] (rare in adults.)
My doctors: (just met me 2 seconds ago) no you dont. Is it canabanoid hypermesis syndrome?(CHS)
Me: i dont smoke weed.
Doctor: its CHS.
Mine was like this, but he retired 😔
This patient is perfectly reasonable.
1. Had unusual feelings so went to a resource herself.
2. Discovered a possible reason and went to get it professionally tested.
3. When finding she did in fact have a reason to worry, she checked it again.
4. After finding a possible concern, she once more went to a medical professional for help.
5. She knew her family history and decided to be safe.
Guy 1 was kinda like she talked about 1 and says she has 5 ignoring the stages she went to be concerned about 5
I researched my symptoms on WebMD and presented them to my doctor, along with abnormal bloodwork, and requested I be tested for lymphoma. She thought I was being a hypochondriac even though my mom died of blood cancer. She ignored my concerns and 2 years later I was diagnosed with Stage 4 lymphoma because I found a lump and she finally had to have me assessed. Was likely stage 1 when I first brought it up to her. Now I have so many side effects from needing extended chemo due to the staging, lung damage, and a higher risk of secondary cancers, heart disease, and relapse of lymphoma all because I was seen as "self-diagnosing". I love this video. I wish more doctors were like that.
As a medical student addicted to reading comments like yours online and seeing a lot of videos from great creators, I promise to never doubt the concerns of my future patients and always do the work up needed 🙏 thank you for sharing your story and i wish you are well now and doing better
Uh, is that grounds for malpractice? Did she apologize at least? I truly hope you're doing better..
@@KatieDeGoif you have documentation and can prove it, probably
My mother has lynch syndrome, and had lymphoma. She is technically classified "Stage IV in remission" because it has returned so many times, but not legit Stage IV by spread (Never progressed past Stage II). One of the lessons I've learned across years of treatment for her was that too many people do not advocate well for themselves in front of a doctor. _DO NOT_ be scared to have an attorney draft a very good POA and bring someone with you that will advocate for you with the legal power to do so. I attend all of her appointments, and have for over a decade, and there have been many times that tests wouldn't have been done, or procedures done improperly if I hadn't gone and aggressively advocated for her.
If you want testing done, and they say "nah" go to another doctor. Go to the administrator. Do not give up.
Never assume someone’s motive. Family history is such a valid reason for wanting to be careful and get checked
Yea i have to be super carefil with cancer in general bc everyone on my dads side died from it in their about late thirties
Exactly, my dads mother died of skin cancer. She had a lot of sunburns when she was alive and her sons, my dad and my uncle, are both pale gingers who also burn really easily, even with sunscreen. Now my sibling is very light and sensitive to the sun. Thankfully I’m more like my mom, darker and we tan instead of burn. Despite this, I’m always super careful and try to remember sunscreen. Because my dad is always pushing sunscreen and I don’t blame him. My grandma died quite young, my older sibling was a baby and I wasn’t going to be born for 3 years. That was about 18 years ago, she was only in her 50’s or 60’s I believe. Cancer is such a tragic way to pass and online sources can save lives.
Yeah colon cancer is not to be messed with... heck, even in the case of unexplained iron deficiency anemia, even without family history, if you're older than 50 you should get a colonoscopy!
Or total lack of family history
They all assume I'm there for pain meds bc I USED TO be an addict.
The most unbelievable thing about this video is the fact that the doctor is able to schedule the procedure for the same week.
Agree!! My test works if been if it were 3 years ago in the next 2 days. Now? Mid Dec
My thoughts exactly.
If they are inpatient absolutely. Outpatient.....not so much
@@donnaleeah5075 I understood about 4 words out of that comment due to the lack of grammar but I agree wholeheartedly.
I once went to a doctor to schedule a surgery. Her options were slightly over a week or four months. So I once scheduled a surgery for 8 days later.
And.... This is EXACTLY how I got diagnosed with colon cancer. It was removed, and since it was caught very early, I didn't need extensive treatment. Now I have to be monitored yearly.
If i had a doctor like you i wouldnt be disabled. God bless you for listening to your patients
what happened (if your comfortable with telling)
It seems like she’s taking logical precautions based on her medical history, genealogy and symptoms. Glad the doc agreed and hopefully she came back with a clear bill of health.
And a reasonable medical bill... 😕
Wow, I wished my doctors were this reasonable! Hello Doctor, my CRP is high for me (I know because I get it checked every month) it’s 28, and it only means it’s going to carry on going up. Doctor, no, that’s not high, don’t be silly. The next day, my CRP is 139 and I am very very ill…
@@JuMiKu she gets bill only if she is in the us
@@julia.95 I know. But this series seems to take place in the US.
@@JuMiKu do you prefer socialized free healthcare where it could take months to be seen and don't have a choice in the medical professional that sees you.
This took an unexpected yet pleasant turn
That was the goal 😁
Thank god Because people think research is wrong, just wait for the MD
women are not taken seriously most of the time, and 99.99% of the time if you mention you did any research your given the back of the hand wave in your face with an attitude you could drive home and you literally have zero shot at any help at all, but thanks your bill today it $475.00 for your consult.
Your better off keeping your research to yourself UNLESS YOUR A MAN
@@patriciatoomingtheplantpar2558 it's sad because a lot of the time, people do research on their conditions because their healthcare providers are dismissing valid complaints.
And the worst thing for me is that in order to avoid seeming like "that webMD patient" I tend to dismiss actual problems in my life, like my chronic headaches or my symptoms of hypothyroidism, until they become life-altering.
Web md is a great resource if you know how to read it. Otherwise, it will make you think everything is cancer
This is the kind of doctor everyone wants to have. The doctor that takes your concerns seriously and who you feel comfortable with.
Can we please start doing the same for autoimmune diseases?? It took 8 years for doctors to figure out mine, and for the first 6 of that they kept telling me i was just depressed. Then I got sick enough that I had to be hospitalized and it STILL took two years for them to figure out exactly what was going on.
Hey this was like... a normal conversation with a normally concerned person with legit worries and a legitimately caring doctor.......... this was such a slap in the face and yet one I'd gladly ask for again!
A doctor that cares is important, though admittedly, without a family history of colon cancer, I don't know if I'd want to put a patient through a colonoscopy due to iron deficiency anemia.
@@ReverendLeRoux If you have a family history then it's worth it, which the patient said
@@ReverendLeRouxgood thing the patient was clear that there WAS such a history
Dude my mum googling "child always tired" and reading that he was likely anaemic and needed medical treatment was literally what stopped my youngest brother dying from acute lymphoblastic leukemia at age 7. He's doing well now, even though treatment hasn't quite ended (maintenance phase rn)
It's so nice to finally see people in the medical field accepting that googling symptoms is important when getting a diagnosis, because it shows you what to look out for and expect
Prayers
Comma before because it’s not needed.
@@swankyangelo bro I think leukemia is slightly more concerning than a comma
@@ubiquitous9921Just let him have this i think he needs it
@@swankyangelo Good job man 🥳
A doctor who isn't threatened by someone who wants to have some control over their well being. Refreshing
Nobody has any control over their wellbeing. It's just an illusion people keep telling themselves because humans *need* to feel in control to stay sane.
WHY DID I IMAGINE A COLD HUMAN SOUP WHEN I READ "refreshing"
The "I'm not crazy" part is so true. I feel like I have to vouch that I'm not a crazy wimpy woman everytime I go in for something. I've had the same problems for years and the first time I bothered to get it checked, the person I had met with had the gall to look me in the eye, after hearing all of my symptoms with a long ass time line, and say "its probably gas you're overreacting"
Wow he actually listened and checked into it for the patient's peace of mind. I wish more doctors actually did this! Seriously it's their job
Yeah, and I also wish they took anxiety more seriously.. :1
He didn't check into it for their peace of mind. They checked it because they had criteria for it. It's not their job to do unnecessary testing for patient's peace of mind.
@@AfonsoCL thier are many symptoms that cross over. Stomach hernias are a problem i hear patients have issues with when trying to consult doctors. Run every test but. Most the people i know with this issue are overweight. Which doent help
Well not just for peace of mind.
Once she said that this type of cancer had been in her family history that would have 100% been a completely valid reason to go to the doctor immediately.
That’s why it’s really important to know your family‘s medical history.
Ikr doctors in my country will utterly berate you for not knowing your own condition, like wtf
I had a patient diagnosed with Lynch syndrome because of something similar. Initially the other providers made him sound like a crazy person. Registration wrote the chief complaint as “I want to get a genetic test for Lynch syndrome. ”
Only after I sat down with him with our resident did I realize he needed to get the test done because of his family history being such high risk. Great teaching point for the resident and us attendings.
Happens all the time though, the ‚educated‘ part in educated guess gets completely ignored because these narcissists can’t imagine someone else coming up with a rare diagnosis.
Plus mixing in all the people who fit a single symptom with no risk factors into the same pot.
Rather than letting the patient explain without shutting them up.
Especially if the patient is female.
You’d be surprised how some docs write off stuff because they don’t have patience for their patients…my mom was written off as a heavy smoker when she had bronchitis even though she didn’t even smoke!!!! Just to sum up shot and be ridden of her to make it seem like it’s all on her. I only found it after printing her medical record for a specialist appointment.
@@alona270 holy crap that's AWFUL! So glad your mom has you on her team!
OK, I shouldn't be writing this, because it the interwebs and all that. But cancer is all over my family. Sister died of it, brother will soon, mom had it, plus a ton of uncles, aunts, cousins, and grandpa. But apparently the type of cancer my sister had is not genetical. We had that checked. Although my nurse did say 'hmm, this might be Lynch syndrome', when I gave her the family history. But that was before we had the confirmation my sisters colon cancer wasn't genetic. I honestly don't know if I should get an extra genetic screening or not, to make sure I don't have it.
I would just send a medical student over to learn more about lynch syndrome so I don't need to teach him myself
In february my husband refused to go to the ER for two days until I could finally convince him by pulling up everything WebMD had to say. He had emergency surgery 6 hours after arrival and was in a coma for 3 days. Needed a second surgery two weeks ago. Thankfully this whole ordeal is behind us after 6 months of fear, anxiety, pain, pills and therapy.
That's a proper self diagnose. You have a premise, you get it checked, you follow through and get it professionally done before it's too late.
Bravo
My doctors literally laughed at me for researching if i optic neuritis on webMD only to then diagnose me with optic neuritis
That tracks, unfortunately.
Must've been an awkward conversation
I'd try a new doctor.
This happened to me too. Same thing!
I did the same with gastroenteritis. I even told them “ I think it’s gastroenteritis but I’m not a doctor “
This was surprisingly wholesome I wish most doctors were like this
971 likes and no comments? Lemme fix that rq
They are like this tho
@@TGC-CLIPSactually they're not most of them just dismiss valid concerns😅
@@optimisticelement3193 I meant aren’t they are professionals they are not meant to assume that the patient is lying to get out of work the customer is almost always right follows into this line of work too
@@TGC-CLIPSThat’s a nice thought, but that’s not how the world works. Shitty doctors exist. Not every one of them is gonna follow that line or logic.
Sometimes we forget to tell the details and past visits because we get nervous as patients due to the stigma of “self-diagnosing” and it could end up being something serious that’s overlooked.
I would rather be overly cautious, and ask questions and get check-ups if something is causing concern that much to you. It could end up being what saves your life.
This is totally me! I have undiagnosed and strange symptoms, and my doctor and I have been trying to find out what the underlying causes are. I'm not kidding! I'm continuously emailing her through the patient portal app asking, "I have these symptoms and those too, so could it be this disease or that syndrome?" My doctor is so awesome! She never tells me to stop sending her long and involved notes detailing my symptoms and what I think they indicate, and she has tested me for every one from H. Pyelori in my stomach to Lymes disease and Lupus. Even though they've all come back negative so far, she never tells me to stop looking up my symptoms on the Internet and bothering her with my worries, or to make an appointment to see her in instead of communicating with her through the patient portal app or by scheduling a telehealth visit with her to discuss my symptoms.
webMD people aren’t rrly that bad most of the time it’s just ppl who cant afford to see the doctor every 30 seconds
BRB, just making an itemized list of symptoms for my doctor so that I can actually give them all the relevant information in a 15 minute time span and hopefully get treatment without waiting another 6 weeks for another appointment.
It's like Wikipedia. It gives you a starting point when you aren't sure what to do.
OTOH, I miss being able to put n vague symptoms and picking the most ridiculous possibilities.
IE I know it's dehydration but fatigue, tiredness and a headache could be:
Lead poisoning.
Radiation poisoning
SO MANY different cancers.
Genetic diseases that cause lifelong problems that I'd know about by now.
Fun times XD
@Richdragon I can't afford to see the doctor every 30 seconds WITH public healthcare.
Laughs in nhs
This is how a doctor patient interaction should go. The doctor actually listening to the patient and taking their worries seriously while investigating their symptoms.
Rare lol
this happened because the patient was logical and rational. amazing what happens when patients think like doctors…
@@fulltimeslackerii8229 true but there’s always this need to understand from the doctors side that most of the time the patient is scared. They are terrified. Doctors aren’t perfect. They will make mistakes. But it’s not fair to discount the words of a patient that differs from theirs as just them being irrational. And those concerns are still worth listening to and be considered
Challenge: don't be dismissive of patients
Difficulty: impossible
@@fulltimeslackerii8229 I am always logical and rational but I have had doctors ignore me. My current doctor is amazing, she listens, but I talk to her the same way I always have.
Wonderful outcome! I love doctors that don’t dismiss their patients interest in understanding what is going on with them!
It’s good that you went in with an open mind and sat down to listen. I’ve got several doctors that won’t even step away from the door and are out in 5 minutes.
He actually took the time and listened to a patient who other doctors were scoffing at. Surprisingly wholesome ❤
you know this is a skit right?
@@Watashi_wa_robottodesuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, yes? Have you never heard of a theme?
Sounds like urgent care took her seriously, ran tests and gave her an appropriate diagnosis. Who are these imaginary straw man docs that were scoffing?
@@kabob21the first guy who says "she thinks she has colon cancer because she's cold" when her actual story was "urgent care confirmed a less serious condition which may be connected to colon cancer, which is is in my family history"
@@kabob21the first doctor who said "she thinks she has cancer because she's cold" when her actual story was "I was diagnosed with a less serious condition which may be linked to the colon cancer that my family has a history of."
She isn't that off, realy. First doc didn't listened anymore, after she said she searched online and missed the bit with her dad and her iron deficency.
Exactly! It’s always important to talk with patients. The internet has both wacky and reliable information
@@Doc_Schmidt Exactly! And many patients are completely capable of distinguishing between the two. It doesn't always mean we're on the right track (there may be many other things that would explain our symptoms) but it does mean we're good observers of our bodies, that we're proactive and resourceful, and able to participate in making decisions about our care.
@@pjp9383 exactly. I mean if just reading up your personal symptoms would get you an exact diagnosis, what would you need physicians for anyway?
Like that’s a starting point for differential diagnostics.
Shitload of arrogant providers won‘t let patients speak though, and miss the more important symptoms, because for the patient it’s not a serious symptom because it doesn‘t directly bother them and is just ‚oh curious‘.
They‘ll lead with the stuff that worries them most.
Which isn‘t usually the more specific symptoms
@AeonReign thissss. the huge financial barrier to even enter medical programs doesn't help bring in people who genuinely care, either. a lot of times people are just following a paycheck, and not a calling to serve the people. it's disheartening to see.
patients come into the docs office because they need help, otherwise they'd just resort to their own devices without medical advice. providers should respect the patients time by at least listening without assuming foul play and ask follow up questions if it doesn't make sense.
I personally spent most of my childhood being abused and neglected, I've been recovering from CPTSD since I was 3. I'd like to think it's made me stronger. I've also lived in borderline poverty for most of my life, and I've been homeless multiple times in my attempts to escape my abusers, but I stilm hope to become one of the good doctors one day. I've come a long way, and I'm still trying to claw my way up. I currently see patients every day with my provider, who is also one of the good ones. I'm getting the experience I need and I hope to never lose my heart and become dismissive and cynical towards people in need. I've already been through hell and I think I stayed somewhat decent, yknow? I wish more people could do that without the hellish reality of severe trauma in childhood
@@pjp9383 yep. Especially when it comes to less common conditions. Like yes, the doctor knows more about medicine than I do, but I know more about living in my body than anyone else. And I'm positive I knew more about my condition than the doctor who insisted it doesn't exist. I know enough to know what isn't a good idea for my body, even if it is generally a good idea for most people. But I have been accused of being a hypochondriac before. Because I knew "too much" about a condition I'd been living with 24/7/365 for four years. Like hmmm, I can't imagine why I'd know a lot about it. And been called a drug seeker for.... turning down opiates. Like, isn't that the opposite of a drug seeker? I'm not gonna take drugs I don't like that won't help.
Thank you for making this video!! It’s taken me a decade to get ONE of my diagnoses, now I’ve got 2 and I’m also getting referred for another. With how long it takes to get seen by a doctor and the amount of doctors that just give up when it’s not the “usual” things, doing your own research can be a life saver. A lot of doctors will run the tests for the most common diseases and when they come back clear they almost congratulate you for not having it and then send you on your way, as if the piece of paper saying you don’t have ONE disease has cured you of all your symptoms. Most doctors don’t have time to do research even for their own field, so doing the research yourself and making suggestions can definitely help. Any doctors that scoff and try to dismiss you and your symptoms are in my opinion not worth your time.
It doesn't hurt to make a test and see if something is wrong.
My father had multiple strokes during his life, my family doesn't even know when the smaller ones started. I had a giant fear something like that was already happening to me, the neuro ordered a mri, by the results my brain is fine, i can do one again after 5 years. Gave me peace of mind.
the thing mentioning the family history is so real, i asked a clinician if my moles looked weird and she was like eh they look pretty round and brown and I said both sides of my family have skin cancer and she goes "OH. Let's GET you TO A DERmatOLOGIST"
why are some letters randomly capitalized in “oh lets get you to a dermatologist”
It’s a placeholder for tone, indicating the speaker was alarmed enough for it to affect how they spoke (ie their pitch fluctuating)
@@Chirpy-eo8jq Yeah, but this is the internet. Most people associate full-caps with yelling/urgency, italics with emphasis, and alternating upper and lowercase with mocking sarcasm.
@@Chirpy-eo8jq thank you
@@DraconicDuelistwhile that's true, the way this person used them is different and conveyed the increasing alarm as the sentence progressed
Yeah if I'm googling symptoms it's literally cuz I'm trying to figure out if I should actually see a doctor and how worried I should be. Like a kind of risk assessment. Because my question normally is "how likely is this to be a major issue I should see a doctor for?"
Exactly! In fact I was so certain WedMD was wrong when it said my breast changing shape could be cancer, I waited to see a doc. Luckily I'm getting treated now but many of us won't go to docs unless it's super serious
@@AccordingtoJexi my husband's cousin waited until he had a cantaloupe between his thighs and could barely walk to find out he had cancer. By that point, it had metastasized to his lymph nodes. He was too afraid of the bill to get it checked out until his sibling basically forced him. Thankfully, he's in remission, minus a few bits and pieces.
@@socialdeviant13 Wow! Luckily I don't think my waiting will have those kinds of consequences but I definitely have some. That's so scary. Im glad he's doing okay now
Even if medical care was free, I'd Google this red mark on my side before bothering a doctor with it. Turns out it's fairly common and completely harmless, and I showed it to the doctor at an appointment for something else and he agreed. If I'd made an appointment just for that, is have wasted both our time and my money.
Ugh. You shouldn’t have to do this tho.
The American medical system is so awful. If you have any problems, you should see a doctor because YOU don’t know how to accurately “risk assess” even with WebMD.
This system requires that everyone be a pseudo expert so you don’t spend money you don’t have to/get ripped off. It’s awful.
We should be able to just see a doctor if things feel abnormal.
I’m glad to see this approach, I hate when I tell someone “I think I have this” and there response is immediately “no you don’t” just because I googled symptoms
im glad he said it like that, because ive been pretty keen on a few things ive had after doing some research, and would feel like i needed to dance around that i looked it up because i felt like i wouldnt be taken seriously.
My mom did this but with breast cancer at 24 years old. Her doctor literally laughed in her face and told her she was too young, and to go home and stop reading nonsense. She got a second opinion. Stage 3 breast cancer. She went back to the original doctor and the way everyone describes it is like a movie. The receptionist tried to stop her as she was barging into his office, and before she could be stopped, she slapped her results right on that doctors chest with big tears in her eyes and said “I have TWO babies at home and you almost made it so THEY didn’t have a momma”
Doc looks at her results, the mammograms, the blood work, and just starts bawling and apologizing. She shook her head and walked out like a boss. That was in the 80’s and she taught me how to look out for myself with doctors like the first one in this bit.
My mom beat cancer four fucking times because she trusted her gut, books, the internet, her friends, and because she got a second opinion when things didn’t feel right. Learn from her.
What a legend. Glad she advocated for herself!
Wow that's amazing. Glad she went back to the first doc. May have given him a wakeup call and saved future patients' lives!
4 times?!?!? Damn she's a savage. I had triple negative breast cancer stage 2a. Been in remission a year and a half. Pray I don't have to go through it again.
I truly hope your mother changed the life of at least one patient that doctor saw afterwards.
I think the best part of this story is the doctor actually felt remorseful... so many doctors are arrogant to the point of having a God complex that empathy and remorse are hard emotions for them to even feel anymore. I hope he took future patients more seriously because of your awesome mother.
This is a reminder to people that if you really think you need a certain test done and a doctor laughs at you for it, tell them that that’s fine but that you need them to note in your file that they have denied you the test. I’ve heard this works for some ppl bc the doctor realizes that if they’re wrong that they’re going to be held liable.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this
I never thought of this, definitely going to remember this from now on
@@liolatte I’ve never done it myself but I’ve seen someone else online say it and I think it makes sense haha
that is...not the right lesson to take from this. tbf laughing at you is atrocious bedside manners, but making them note the denied test may lead to defensive medicine and worse care.
@@dandy-lions5788 yes but if you're decently concerned about something and the doctor refuses to test you for it, defensive medicine is better than death from something treatable
All my recent diagnoses I’ve received have been due to my own extensive research online to educate myself on symptoms and what may be going on-checking off on a trait list and then taking those print outs and check list with me to my appointment to show what I’m experiencing and what to ask for. I will 100% accept being told I’m okay as long as tests are done/issues are looked into, it’s the duds in the system who take one look and dismiss me that I refuse to listen to.
Because of doing my own research first I was able to be formally diagnosed with Auditory Processing Disorder and Motor Tic Disorder and receive the care I needed after slipping through the cracks through my entire childhood due to doctors who dismissed me as just having anxiety. 😂
Getting an official diagnosis starts with a self diagnosis!
There's a difference between self-diagnosis and being logically cautious, and I would say this is definitely the latter
Very cool
Yeah I had to go to specialist recently for a colonoscopy and my regular Doctor criticism of my want to get checked made me so mad I left and got a different one. Turns out I had polyps they had to remove and there were cancerous both my parents had cancer and my mom died of colon cancer. I reported my old doctor I'm not sure if he's a doctor anymore I had absolutely logical reasons for wanting to get checked and he downplayed me like I was crazy.
@@nervousbabbs2769 i dont know where I read i think it was Twitter. A woman died in her 38 yrs of life because a doctor ignored her concerns for color cancer even tho her own father died from it. My heart hurts every time i think about it and similar cases.
Im so glad your life is prolonged, nobody deserves to die of such vile illness.
self Dx with correct research (of usually mental health disorder) is totally valid however there are some medical procedures that are NOT self diagnosable and need testing
I LOVE the respect shown to the patient! Even if she was "crazy", everyone deserves to be HEARD and listened to in a health care setting. And of course, everyone deserves basic respect. You are wonderful.
If nothing else, if theyre actually just physically fine, but have are distressed having self diagnosed incorrectly, they might be mentally unwell (paranoia, OCD, hypochondria or munchausens etc.) and picking that up for some psych support may be worthwile for their quality of life.
Worse yet, theybdont bother, miss something and diagnose late, further complicating treatment if it is a serious physical condition.
"Crazy" is a medical problem too.
Crazy, i was crazy once. They locked me in a room, a rubber room, a rubber room with rats and rats make me crazy.
@@virtualatheist Indeed it is. Mental health is just as important as physical health. Really, they're the same. Mental health disorders can produce a wide range of physical symptoms. Some even severe or even life threatening.
I was always concerned with being seen as crazy when I researched what was happening with my medically complex little girl.
I started asking her doctors to explain *why* they weren't concerned about XYZ. Sometimes, they were humble enough to admit XYZ was something they hadn't considered and needed to.
It's fair to ask for explanations so that we understand why something we're concerned about isn't concerning to the people who know more.
Thank you to the doctors(rare) that actually listen to the patients doing internet searches as a diagnostic evaluation! I have a rare disease that most doctors haven't heard of and don't take the time anymore to care. If I hadn't done this, I would have suffered for another 25 years!
Patient thought critically and knew how to present her case.
Holy shit I love this. Thank you, an actual doctor that listens to his patients and doesn’t belittle them, even if their concerns might not seem likely. Was not expecting that. 💯
It's crazy how apparently widespread this problem is
It's also cause she's has family history with colon cancer.
@@FakeTsuki Not to mention it’s seriously messed up when a person DOES have cancer and then apparently isn’t believed.
@@chaotic7cam or any condition for that matter. This was a great demonstration of why you listen. Once he let her explain he went from thinking she's a bit excitable to realizing her family history suggests this is a very real possibility.
@@dillongage Completely agree.
I had to go to the doctor FIVE TIMES before he referred me to a neurologist for my debilitating migraines. I had to BEG this man
That is sad...I have the same and have a congenital disorder (chiari malformation)
My doctor finally gave me a referral to a neurologist after several years with CONSTANT headaches. The neurologist's response was basically "yep, you have headaches!" Oh, and a chronic sleep disorder which my primary care also didn't suspect despite my constant complaints of exhaustion. Then it turns out half the headaches were caused by my wisdom teeth which no one even thought about until after I had them removed. I have very little trust in medical professionals now.
@@blackwolfll6105 vitamin D is a fat soluble vitamin. Taking 4 times the recommended dose is very dangerous and can lead to nausea, vomiting, nerve pain, and kidney problems. (Not saying this is the cause of your pre existing condition, just saying it won’t help the outcome)
My wife has idiopathic intracranial hypertension and docs kept putting her on psych meds for years until someone decided to check. I have had lupus my whole life but didn't get diagnosed until I was 27 and half dead. Both of us had our lives ripped apart before anyone wanted to take us seriously. There is no reason to blindly trust doctors but we are stuck with their judgements.
He got you to pay for nothing 4 times. Doctors are largely out of touch scum.
My grandma just got diagnosed with colon cancer yesterday. I'm so scared I'm gonna lose her...
I have a similar issue often, my father died of lupus an autoimmune disease and so i like to check my levels and do testing they greatly dislike doing to be sure especially since it normally does get misdiagnosed. ❤thank you for listening to them when they come to you worried especially since people know there own bodies best
I can't stop watching this. It makes me feel safe instead of looked down on. I have a panic disorder so I have doctors treat me like I'm full of shit when I talk about my symptoms. It sucks.
I have a panic disorder as well and by the time I saw my forth therapist I gave up. Luckily I got the encouragement I needed to keep trying and thankfully I did because the fifth one changed my life completely. Don’t be afraid to kick these professionals to the curb. Keeping them around is only going to traumatize you further and start to convince you that your experience isn’t valid while at the same time keeping you from someone that could actually be helping you. It also can make it harder to trust the right person when you do find them and you might feel like you can’t tell them everything which will also inhibit healing. Once i was having a panic attack during a session and I am so well versed with panic attacks that you would never know it from the outside. I told him “it may not look like it, but I assure you I’m having a 9.5 panic attack right now”, and went on to describe what I was feeling. He believed me 100% and turned all of his focus to it. There are qualified people out there that truly do care, although sometimes very hard to find. I really hope you find what you need to heal. Panic attacks are no joke!
@@Michelle-fm8dg completely agree, I used to have a doctor who was highly inappropriate and used to gaslight me into thinking my mental health problems weren't as bad as I said they were and now I have a great respectful, mature, and more professional doctor who has helped me get on medications and find other resources. I used to have a dentist who would make fun of me and blame me for all my problems while I've been struggling with depression and now I have a new dentist who greets me kindly and gives me facts about my teeth and I love going there. I used to have a counselor who would would make me feel unsafe and panic me often without helping me and now I have a theripist who I've made immeasurable strides with who has helped me with many things. Unless ur not able to do so, you shouldn't settle for professionals who act like school bullies and don't help/teach you, they have never helped me and with all my new professionals they have all respected me, treated me kindly, and taught me all the important stuff about taking care of myself that I've never learned before. (Ik school should've done alot of that teaching but they didn't and I'm thankful I have professionals who can show me.)
As soon as you mention any mental health issues, no matter how longstanding or well-controlled, all conversation is shut down. Doctors stop listening to your concerns, let alone any insight you may have regarding your conditions. I'll never understand that - stick to your specialty! Leave the psychiatric conditions to my psychiatrist/psychologist. An ENT shouldn't let a patient's treatment for depression guide their treatment of sinus issues, e.g.
@@trninfan The doctors who say that aren't doing their job. Mental health issues can cause a variety of physical health issues and even with therapy the mental or physical problems may need to be medicated for the patient's health. My doctor works along side my theripist to get me the help I need because I'm not gonna get through life without both of them. I need a doctor who is experienced with my medical history and medical problems to help me find medications that are right for me and fitting to the mental health issues/ diagnosises that my theripist discovers. My doctor can't just throw medicine at me without me first getting therapy to see if the medical conditions might be getting worse from mental health and a theripist to diagnose or identify those possible mental obstacles. Any good professional doctor would not take mental health lightly and never not work with you and your theripist on getting you the help you need to live an easier life. (I wrote "easier" because some problems stay with you for life but can be greatly reduced with proper care and support.)
@@Michelle-fm8dg I had a really nice therapist, but we never seemed to get anything concrete done. She moved on and the new therapist figured out that my anxiety is secondary to ADHD and I'm finally making progress!
I just really want to tell my physicians that If I value WebMD more than your expertise, I probably wouldn’t have woken up since 7 am, driven across the town, waited nearly an hour and paid an enormous bill to meet you.
This^
Exactly. WebMD gives me talking points and vocabulary so I can ask you the expert especially if no one is finding me an answer.
The way I see it is you [the doctor] are the expert in medicine but I have more experience and more at stake with how my body functions.
Well no you would still need a doctor to get the prescriptions and document your problem for work, other doctors and future admissions etc. even if every doctor on earth was a moron who didnt know how to diagnose anything, you would still need to visit them.
I only agree with this in part. Its also because for some antiquated reason at home testing and easily available routine testing is completely lacking. So off we go for a child for a strep throat test etc etc My mom still has to go in and get lab orders for check iron deficiency levels etc
Its a waste off all of our times.
Its like hiring chauffeurs for the entire population because they think almost no one is capable of driving.
There should be medical access levels in society like graduated drivers license.
You can access the level 2 OTC items or level 3 etc if you have the license.
Sure some people will cheat but its got to be better than the horrible current day structure.
Just getting in to see the experts is like having to perform a scheduling tap dance.
Why does the medical field make it so challenging to even get access to care?
This is exactly why I started getting my A1C checked a couple of years ago. My mom and both of my grandfathers have diabetes.
Thank you for not gaslighting her. ❤ As a nurse, I've diagnosed everything thats been wrong with me and was able to get help.
If a patient tells you that they looked up symptoms it’s a great spot to start a productive conversation and really instill confidence in you as a provider as you guide them through your thought process to the right answer.
That being said, how receptive they are depends on the patient in some cases. Great video.
I'm always looking things up online, I love that my doctor takes it into account when we're at the appointment. It kind of helps to understand what the symptoms feel like, and what feels like it fits is a great starting point.
Thank you for taking patients seriously.
@@meganrogers7420 I think that as time goes on and we keep moving into the age of doctors who grew up with the internet we will keep seeing this positive trend. Very good to think about.
I have a really great doctor that knows I look stuff up. I want to be educated and informed and often times when I don't feel good there is a lot of anxiety around that. My doctor used it as a conversation piece and doesn't just blow me off. Treats me like a human being with feelings and not just another patient.
Yep. I've had some doctors ask about it, like "Find anything useful?", but others decide to just blow me off because I must've just memorized the webMD page for the condition I thought I might have. Thankfully I've managed to find some good docs who listen. It means I'm missing a few specialties (slowly working on fixing that), but I'd rather not have a doc than have one who doesn't listen.
The best medical experience I ever had was with a doctor who let me rattle off all the info and research I did, asked me follow up questions, and told me she was impressed with how much I knew about the procedure. The worst was the urgent care doctor who asked me what I wanted him to do about a spreading open sore on my finger that spread *a centimeter* over night. It turned out to be an allergy to Neosporin, but it took FIVE doctor's visits (including one to the ER during covid) and over 600 bucks.
I love how he actually stopped to have a meaningful conversation and help validate the patient where appropriate while not openly endorsing self diagnosis. My clinical dean used to tell us all the time to listen to the patient, they're trying to tell you what's wrong with them.
That’s a great Dean
Yessss your dean is so correct.
As a teen I couldn't understand why my back hurt so much and my body naturally falls to one side, it won't really let me slope to the other side.
He laughed, told me everyone has back pain and that (the way my body falls) was such a silly thing to worry about.
Turns out I have mild but still incredibly painful scoliosis.
The weird slope thing is because of the direction my curve moves, it was a useful symptom that something was off.
If he'd just looked into it, I would have known much sooner.
I've done heavy lifting jobs in that time because I kept getting told I was being silly and we all hurt like that. 😶
The patient can usually figure out what MAY BE the issue, not perfect but a decent guess.
I.E. My foot hurts an I think it's this (arch muscle)... Yes, apparently I'm ("slightly") flat footed and my doctor had no clue for 18+ years. No, it's not just random cramping.
I think doctors seem to often assume patients are "self diagnosing" when we are actually just suggesting potential disgnoses. Like, we understand that doctors know thousands of medical conditions and want to make sure they are considering the ones that run in our family or have come up as potential disgnoses in the past because of unrelated symptoms. If the doctor already did consider it than its just an extra sentence of conversation, and if they didn't think of it potentially it could lead them to ask better questions or not miss an uncommon disgnosis.
@@petraarkian7720 thisssss exactly 💯
Thank you! THANKYOU! Nobody else knows my medical history or my symptoms like I do.
I stopped being afraid of talking to my doctor about what I think could possible be wrong with when I noticed that they also had to look this stuff up.
This was perfect - had worries about something, recognises its not always the best thing to self diagnose, followed it up appropriately, turned out to be true, then kept following the chain, researching and following up appropriately again, without making any huge assumptions or being insistent about her own diagnosis. That and given a family history, giving reasonable cause for worry, is brilliant
Looking up online swollen lymph nodes that didn't go away after a couple weeks was the start of getting a lymphoma diagnosis. Good doctors listen to why their patient is concerned.
Hey quick question and feel free to ignore this/not answer it: I've had a couple lymph nodes swell up a bit and my PCP has dismissed it, but it's been like a year or so now. Were yours like suuuper swollen and/or painful, or were they just slightly enlarged and palpable?
@@aggressiveballoffluff hey, if you have had palpable lymph nodes for an extended period of time, it's a good idea to have them checked out! Regardless of if they're painful, or how swollen they are, a doctor will probably want to look into that to see why. There's many many things that can cause swollen lymph nodes, anything from a common cold, or just stress, to cancer. So a doctor will likely want to order you some tests and scans. Majority of the time swollen lymph nodes are from a minor cause but even so if It's good to address it :)
@@aggressiveballoffluff Your PCP probably won't dismiss it now as it's been a year and they're still swollen.
@@pchypie8801 Thanks for the advice! And unfortunately, I told her after several months that they were still swollen and she still said, "Oh, it's probably just from the flu or something", so I don't know how much luck I'll have there. But I'll try at my annual check up that's coming up soon!
@@aggressiveballoffluff I got this pretty bad after my booster. It really hurt. Took months to go away and it was scary.
Searching the Web was how I could confirm to myself that I actually had ADHD, and made it possible for me to put my problems into words when speaking to my doctor.
He had previously dismissed my concerns, because as someone who has ADHD, it was extremely hard to string my thoughts together and explain my problems.
*Oh the irony!*
Yep
Something like that happened to me too! Only I was taking the Pooh (like Winnie the Pooh) pathology test for fun and got extremely high in rabbit (ocd) and it confused me, so I decided to look it up and I found out what actual ocd is and the different forms and realized I had it. I brought it up to my doctor and she diagnosed me with it, funnily enough, her nurse had it too so I got talk to her for a bit. I thought I only had it slightly but when I started going back to therapy after my mom died I found out I had severe ocd and didn’t realize how much of the stuff I did was actually ocd tics. Luckily my antidepressants were also meds for ocd so between that and exposure therapy I’m doing better. The internet can be a really good thing, especially for discovering mental health as long as u stay logical about it.
I’ve been a doctor for 5 years and got diagnosed with ADHD 2 years ago. It’s been very eye opening to go from one side of the doctor/patient relationship to the other. Especially when it comes to being a women with ADHD.
I often had a sense of dread when my patients would talk about finding information online or in forums, often because I felt it was likely to lead them (and possibly us) to the wrong conclusions. However, subreddits like r/adhdwomen have provided me more support and information then any healthcare provided source. I would find my psychiatrist would look puzzled when r I would talk about how closely my period would interact with my ADHD symptoms, and how my ADHD medication would, in turn, effect my periods. In contrast, I found these are common topics of discussion in these ADHD related subreddits!
Medicine still has a long way to come to address the disadvantages that women and many minorities face when accessing healthcare.
Hey doc I really want to get some opiates!
@Richdragon John Oliver did a great segment on it a couple of years back. I’ll link it here if anyone is interested
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This is exactly what those online resources are supposed to be used for. Give people just enough information to see if they should seek out an actual doctor for testing.
This is definitely a good use of the medical side of the internet! We have access to so much information now that it’s making it easier for us to get educated on our health! Thanks to the internet I was able to bring up concerns to my psychiatrist about getting tested for BPD. I had tried every antidepressant I could and nothing worked. After sitting down and researching BPD more pieces made sense about my mental health. Been 2 years and now I’m on mood stabilizers and go to therapy, and I’ve made amazing strides with my mental health.
Considering that she has a medical family history of colon cancer, I think her caution is very justified.
Same. I have to get tested every five years for the same reason. The scopes suck. The flushing liquid is absolutely putrid. But I’d rather catch it early if I develop colon cancer like me dad did. (He was caught early and he beat it.)
It’s sad that a lot of doctors would just straight up dismiss this😭
5 doctors in row dismissed my complaints about pain and numbness and muscle spasms.
Multiple sclerosis, the morons took so long I walk with a cane now. One time in America I wish I could sue, but apparently stupidity isn’t illegal.
Every time I've told any doctor I used the internet for anything I get literal eye-rolls and heavy disdain, then a lack of active listening when I try to explain my symptoms or thought process. I would LOVE to have doctors that actually listen, ones I didn't HAVE to "be my own advocate" with in order to get accurate, compassionate diagnosis or care.
THANK YOU, Breast and Ovarian cancer runs in my family and so does PCOS and I was diagnosed with PCOS last year and I get checkups from doctors like this! I'm so grateful for doctors like this because my grandmother wouldn't be alive today if it weren't for them!
She didn't decide she had a problem. She gathered enough information to go see a professional to see if her concerns were warranted. That's the proper way to use something like WebMD. As a bonus she connected the dots with her family history. That's one smart lady. And one open minded MD to see that
There is a huge difference between "Do I have/could I have 'X'?" and "It's 'X' with no questions asked." WebMD was made to help people understand the potential risks with their symptoms; it pisses me off that it's been demonized. Yes there are those who irrationally take what WebMD says it could be as solid fact, but most people take what is suggested with a grain of salt and just want to get their facts straight and get taken care of just in case it's something serious like cancer and not something like IBS.
I've been to hundreds of doctors and that isn't an open minded doctor, it is just an average normal doctor, almost all doctors are like this.
@@rdizzy1 I wouldn't say almost all. Maybe a rare few, because my doctor laughed at me when I had a hunch I had pneumonia and misdiagnosed me, leading me to having an ER visit.
@@roseabee7503 Only people with bad experiences post their examples online, not the other 9 out of 10 that have totally fine experiences.
@@roseabee7503 i agree, i went to the doctor for joint pain, weakness, tiredness, etc. the doctor was a pediatrician. just because i was young, he dismissed it as growing pains when most of my joint pain was in my hands. last time i checked you dont get growing paisn in your knuckles and wrists. i felt incredibly dismissed and it felt as if no one wanted to help me. i didnt go to the doctor for years and years and the joint pain got worse. im in the process of going to the doctor again as the joint pain, weakness, and tiredness is now effecting me severely everyday. we'll see how that goes lol
we need more doctors like this. i hate being overlooked for my symptoms because i'm a young female
OMG tell me about it!! I got ambulanced to ER and the ER Dr's told me nothing was wrong and to stop being an over dramatic women. They then proceeded to tell me I have aniema but the would be dishcharging me immediately because I was 'faking all symptoms'. She blamed it all on my periods. Still battling it all now and trying to get answers
Tell me about it, this shit fucking sucks!! My pediatrician constantly shoved my weight in my face at every general check-up, noting that I was still “a little chubby” and needed to work on what I ate and my exercise. I was probably 10/11 hearing that shit. It didn’t matter that my dad cooked most of our meals or that I’d been doing martial arts since first grade, it was obviously my weight that was the issue. By the time I was in high school, I was experiencing “random” and fairly extreme bouts of chest tightness to the point where I was practically wheezing my way through them, despite having no previous issues with asthma or anything. Through most of my years of training in martial arts, I hadn’t experienced this. I was brushed off entirely because of my BMI and my muscle vs body fat was never considered because of my age (I was probably 16/17 by this time). I got my black belt right around the time of these medical issues and that was a grueling five hour test. Well, I eventually realized they weren’t that random but typically triggered by anything that got my heart rate up too quickly, primarily jogging/running or stairs. You know what martial arts has very little of? Jogging or running! We had, however, randomly started doing warm-ups in some classes that involved running around the room and THAT was what had taken me out all of a sudden.
I now have an inhaler for exercise induced asthma (thanks to my amazing current PCP) and am looking into getting tested for POTS. Doctors are fucking wack.
I know what you mean. It gets a little bit better with age. When I was 17 I had a REALLY BAD bladder infection. I peed blood. Litterally.
My roommate brought me to the ER in the middle of the night because I couldn't deal with the pain any longer and I really feared for my life. (I had never experienced anything like this before.)
The ER doctor wanted to send me home because "it's just your period girl". I was crying in pain and my very soft and friendly roommate got sooo angry. He was chewing the doctor out until the guy told me to give him an urin sample. Afterwards, I was treated very quickly.
The doctor apologized in the end and told me, he had never seen a sample before with so many bacterias and blood in it.
Lucky me. I was so grateful towards my roommate because I was in a terrible state and not strong enough to fight for myself.
It's sad how every thing a girl/young woman says is just dismissed.
My doctor called me dramatic for coming in to get an unusual swelling that was particularly warm checked out. I didn't have any wounds near the swelling area that could invite infections or that I could disinfect, so I was stumped on what to do. Google said that it might be an infection that could end in amputation if not treated, so I just wanted a second opinion. Doc said my bloodwork was ok and just told me to rub antiseptic on the swollen fingers? I sure hope he's right or I'll be looking for a new doc.
Absolutly. I was very lucky to have a very nice doctor and a very well educated primary care doctor so I got my diagnosis after 2 wrong ones but in a span of 6 months. Sadly usually my chronic illness takes 6 years on average to diagnose. And sadly a lot of chronic illnesses take years on average to be diagnosed right.
This is so important. I love that he took her concerns seriously. 😢❤
"you're right" is the worst thing someone who's scared they might have a deadly disease can hear
I called 911 because I was having severe pain and couldn’t breathe, I was losing my breathe as it got worse. The one medic was kind and the other guy thought I was completely BSing… he rolled his eyes and treated me like I was overreacting something small. When I got hooked to the monitor, I was minutes away from a Stroke, and ended up getting rushed to the ER and having emergency surgery 15 minutes later… so needless to say.. people really need to listen and actually treat patients like their opinions matters and they all aren’t crazy and seeking drugs.
I have a PHD in my body while doctors have a phd in books. They can suck it..
Glad you are doing better. Those kind of people need a lesson. I once made a doctor cry as I laid in to her. Pain is pain and you can not treat people bad because you think what ever you think.
I lost my job and home by being wrongfully narncamed by a EMT that was being screamed at that I just had a seizure and passed out
I woke up paralyzed bc both times I went into the er they thought I was lying about the pain and not being able to use my left leg. I had to literally pick it up and drag it along. They basically just threw pills at me and sent me on my way both times. No imaging or anything.
@@ShanaLawson That sucks. Its appalling how many bad stories there are. The other thing that pisses me off is the amount of time it takes to get something done. You got to stay on top of them or it takes months or even years before you can get anything done. I had to set an appt the other day and the next one was over a month out. They had one opening on the day I got my colonoscopy and I took that appt. Then the damn doctor never showed up and just did a video call. Could have done it the day I was in there with my wife. Yet he had to set an appt to tell him the same thing I told him that day. Now its been a couple of weeks and still nothing has been done.
I had an EMT yell at a police officer once when I thought I was having a heart attack and he was being an ass.
I turned out to be just a panic attack, I'd never had one before so It scared the shit out of me, but the cop starting being all pissy and rude for "wasting our time" and the very nice lady checking my vitals went absolutely ballistic on him.
"How the HELL was he supposed to know what's going on? Our entire JOB is to help people. Mental health is JUST as serious as physical, and he could've accidently hurt himself if he kept panicking and didn't call someone" etc etc.
I shit you not, this 20 something, petite little paramedic laid into this old burly cop for a solid 5 min and then gave me a hug and offered to take me to the hospital just to be safe, and he just sat there looking embarrassed like a dog with his tail between his legs.
I will never forget that woman till the day I die. She was maybe 4 years older than me and she went all mama bear on his ass like I was one of her kids or something.
This is what a respectful doctor-patient collaboration looks like! Thanks, Doc.
Yeah, most of my doctor-patient collaborations end up in at least one of us men in a blonde wig.
In a perfect world, doctors will actually listen to their patients and follow up with the concerns.
Interactions like these are why I love my PCP. He's never ignored my concerns or downplayed my symptoms. No judgement when I told him I'd have to stop taking one of the medications he prescribed because I didn't have insurance to pay for it. He went in the back and got all the sample packs he had and recommended an over the counter alternative when the samples ran out. He didn't reprimand me when I told him about the self medication I'd been doing, just listened to what had worked and found a clinical alternative. I'm incredibly lucky to not have had doctors discount my problems.
That was incredibly respectful and patient, and the patient was reasonable with her concerns too
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WedMD isnt always awful. Its what convinced me to finally go into the ER for what I thought was just a weird bad flu. Turns out it was sepsis and extremely severe pneumonia.
Yeah you definitely could have died...
No offence but why wait ? You could have died. From what you said you must have felt awful. Sepsis has pretty severe clinical manifestations, did you not at least get checked by the family physician ?
Thank you so much! Respect to doctors who respect their patients enough to know some of us have a brain!
Wow if every doctor be so respectful to the patient I probably get rid of my sickness long ago😢
Some years ago, my mom was feeling unwell (and had been for a few months). She went to a few doctors to try and figure out what was wrong with her, and every single one of them told her she was fine, and to stop overreacting. She read up on what her symptoms could mean and was certain she had cancer of the ovaries or of the uterus. She told this to a couple of gynecologists, asking if checking into it would be possible. She was laughed at and ignored, because doctors felt she was a classic case of jumping to crazy conclusions.
After two or so years of this, a doctor decided to check her for cancer of the ovaries, just so she would shut up about it.
By the time the doctor realized she had been right, that she did have cancer, it was too late. She died a slow, gruesome, painful death.
There’s no shame in being wrong. Don’t live your life in fear but, even if you’re ridiculed a little, sometimes it’s worth it to listen to yourself above others.
I'm so sorry about your mom, but thank you for the valuable cautionary tale!
We absolutely know ourselves better than the doctors who spend 15 minutes with us.
I think it would actually be a good idea to send a letter to all the doctors that belittled her. I knows it’s a lot of work and might look like pure guilt tripping but some doctors are arrogant dickheds and only the pain of walking into a glass wall will make them realise that there’s a reason why they should watch out for the arrows on the floor.
They are seriously endangering patients totally oblivious to what happens afterwards.
This, exactly the same with my mom. nobody believed her being sick until it was too late.
The anti women paternalistic patriarchal medical community strikes again. I’m sorry for your loss. They treat women like cr@p and women of African descent even worse. I’m sorry the system failed your Mam.
this was so refreshing to watch as a young woman with chronic illness who constantly gets pushed aside. thank you so much.
I'm with u
It's incredibly hard in the UK right now to find a doctor who gives a shit...getting a GP appointment is near impossible so they always say "go to A&E"...which means a 8 hour+ wait, and then it's the luck of the draw if you get a doctor who gives a shit or not.
Same!
This is.... Exactly right. No notes, no corrections. Dream interaction.
Love that! I was so often ridiculed from doctores for that kind of thing.
Once again, we need more doctors like you
Don't ever let anyone shame you for being an advocate for yourself. You know your body better than anyone.
Exactly, “here’s what I think is going on, and why I think so” is perfectly valid.
YES, except my symptoms have a lot of overlap with a bunch of different things, so it gets kind of confusing lol
Luckily, I've finally found a good doctor, so I've been feeling a lot better (mentally at least, still working on finding a concrete diagnosis)
Then why go to a doctor....
@@leoreokiwi4897 to discuss your condition, other possible causes and set up a plan for testing and, if necessary, treatment? the same thing anyone goes to the doctor for, except that you go somewhat more informed. Too many people never go to the doctor or downplay their symptoms, possibly never even identifying or bringing them up because they're relying on the doctor to do all the thinking for them.
@@elvinwispI'm glad to hear that you're making progress. I've been in your shoes... been to more doctors than I can remember, and have been talked to with everything from apathy to downright dismissal. They only ever want to diagnose MDD, and I'm going along diligently with the treatment but seeing little results. I don't even go to my PCP because I get talked down to for even just asking questions.
You're not alone in that struggle, and you're on the right path. Keep fighting and work with your doctor. Doctors with a patient-centered approach aren't everywhere so hold onto yours!
I'm seeing this for the FIRST time and I just had a colonoscopy. One polyp, find out in 10 days the results. Wish me the best
Thanks for taking her seriously!! Patients’ intuition is not always wrong or crazy.
Patients have a ton of info about their symptoms, quality of life, history, etc. and Drs have a ton of medical knowledge, but it can be harder to bridge the gap between the two in a 15-minute visit without an outside tool like web md
Absolutely! I had to step up and advocate for my youngest because "jaundice is very common and usually resolves in breastfed newborns." His daddy has a congenital hyperbilirubinemia, and my kids could inherit it, so we need to be proactive, dammit! Baby was ultimately readmitted for phototherapy, and although it was stressful getting us there, it was highly preferable to possible brain damage.
Because appointments need to be longer than 15 minutes.
Also, the "medical knowledge" doctors are taught is often, even today, blatantly racist and sexist, based on bad science and medical myths. For example, look into the Black infant mortality rate and why it's *double* the infant mortality rate of their white counterparts in the US.
Well said.
I love when patients look up their illnesses, want to know what their medications are for, etc. I always tell my patients that it's great to be interested in the health and their healthcare 💙
I use it as a starting point to talk to my doctor. I realize you have studied years and know more than me, but usually I just want to know what the options are in terms of medication or what could be going on. Sometimes I just google symptoms to see whether it is likely something innocent and I should just wait to see whether it will pass (especially now our national healthcare system is overworked) or whether I should immediately call for a consult. Luckily my doctors generally realize we have the best outcomes if we try to solve the problems together: they with their medical knowledge, me with my knowledge about my specific case and my life. 💜
And where are you located? Can I make an appt?
And calling your doc for every new symptom would be a waste of time. Especially for chronically ill people. I'll look up new symptoms to make sure they aren't an immediate concern, then basically ignore them for a few weeks. Most go away or lessen to a non concerning degree. If I made an appointment every time I would be seeing a doctor every week. And that'd be pointless.
Yes. I have EDS, which is like half of a page in a single textbook going to med school from what the doctors have told me. It was also a small subnote in my biochem class. I always have medical literature ready to go whenever there's a legitimate concern, like MCAS. Makes it a lot easier.
I had a doctor flat out say to my face "I'm not gonna show you your x-rays because then you're going to google any minor problem I point out" like bro that's my bones I wanna see them.
I am genuinely not the type to go to the doctors or take pain meds unless it's something genuinely concerning. I was dealing with a double ear infection for 4 days before my friend finally convinced me to see the school nurse. I'll complain about a painful long headache and my mom will remind me Tylenol exists. even then I still won't take it. the nerve of that doctor to label me and other patients as paranoid for having legitimate concerns. there's a lot of healthcare workers who shouldn't be in healthcare.
I'm glad you're making those videos! I sincerely think they help people feel more confident in being/becoming proactive about their health
YES! That’s the entire point of screening tools and raising awareness about conditions that benefit from early detection
i hate when doctors don’t even acknowledge your concerns, and don’t care to listen to the explanation for why you are so worried. people with chronic illness in their bloodline or who’ve been traumatized by death and grieve can be extremely anxious when needing medical care for this exact reason. you’re a great doctor
This is so true. 🥺
just today i went to the doctor cause of a host of wierd ass issues that were all alarming. only to find out i was sick with 3 different sicknesses and none severe
feel stupid as heck lol
@@jigglie8077 lol, it’s better you got the assessment you needed tho
Exactly! I watched my mom die from ovarian cancer so yeah obviously I'm going to be concerned about my gynecological health when things out of the ordinary are happening
It's a fucking shame what the Healthcare system has become in the US. People have fought for free medical care and yet then complain about poor treatment and lack of care due to the speed in which the doctors need to work at on an assisted system. Maybe unpopular, but Healthcare was soooo much better before ObamaCare.
This video should be a compulsory part of medical education
Especially in today's world of instant answers. Doctors need to encourage patients to be our own advocates, while also being trained to calm our worst fears.
Now, if only our predatory health insurance industry would let more people see these doctors...
This is how online medical resources should be used if you have concerns, symptom -> research -> correlation -> professionals -> (and *only* then) diagnosis
Best doctor! Not belittling or dismissing patients is so important! She was being proactive due to family history, which is great! Perfectly informative and thought out skit! ❤
This is how my mom found out she’s had Hashimoto’s disease for at least the last decade.
I wish her doctors were like you.
my mom also suffers from that, although luckily, I think her diagnosis journey was much easier. we both have the same primary doctor and she's been a godsend, she actually listens. so few in the industry do.
We stan a well informed patient who is confident guiding their own care
lets not use stan please
@@U-PN-BI-IBWwe stan
@@U-PN-BI-IBWwe stan not using stan
I self diagnosed my cat for a uti and took her to the vet to investigate and i was right! It feels good to know what youre talking about when you did correct research
Man, this one hit hard on me. My mother has bipolar disorder and for a long time going to therapy I always did research and suspected I did. I always told the psychiatrists that because it seemed logic. Because of all of the therapists and psychiatrists that dismissed it only because I was doing research I just got it recently diagnosed and got treated properly.
Listening to a patient who has family history and curiosity for their symptoms CAN save lives. Thanks for bringing visibility to this topic. ❤️