6 Verbal Tricks To Make An Aggressive Person Sorry
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Jordan Peterson VS Cathy Newman Debate
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Have you seen the Jordan Peterson and Cathy Newman debate?
See for yourself how he deals with it and give us your opinion in the comments!
We've all found ourselves in conversation and felt attacked like we started off talking about one thing and then the other person twisted our words and before we knew it, we lost our cool, lost respect in their eyes, and maybe even acted like a jerk. Now, I don't normally do the same person twice in a row but this interview between Cathy Newman and Jordan Peterson was just too interesting of an opportunity to discuss how you can handle someone who uses subtle conversational tricks to bully you into looking dumb. So in this video, you're gonna see firsthand some of the most common tricks that people might be using on you and you're also gonna learn how to reverse those so that you can walk out of a kind of aggressive situation having earned more respect than you had going in.
So first off, to stop a conversational bully, you have to realize what's going on before it's too late. Now, typically, a person will reveal their aggressive attitude early on with their tone of voice and their word choice. Check out the rest that we will show in this video and how Jordan Peterson tackles them.
1:49 Jordan Peterson deals with so-you're-saying trap
2:39 Jordan Peterson deals with the "assuming the sale"
5:30 Jordan Peterson deals with the smash technique
7:08 But don't straw man the other person's ideas though
7:47 And visual imagery can also help
8:25 You can show them that they're already agreeing with you
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I love the statement someone made years ago. "People don't want to hear your opinion. They want their opinion to come out of your mouth."
That's basically most humans. Even myself. It's actually a survival technique to respond positively to those who support our ideology, while avoiding those who could present a threat. You might think we'd have moved on after thousands of years...
My tactic is to exaggerate, in a bombastic and exaggerated fashion, in the following way: "Oh my God! That's exactly right, boy you hit the nail right on the head, no doubt about it! It's like you're in my head or something! I mean WOW! You even got all the punctuation down with your inflection, and I have to hand it to you, wow, yup exactly down to the last molecule, a precise word for word rendition of not only what I said but what I meant by it, which by the way is exactly what I said. " Then I sit back beaming smugly at them because I called them a liar in a very sarcastic way. Nobody wants to argue with me anymore after that. Nasty, I know, but it has been several years since I realized there is no way to convert a fanatic so the best you can do is cut the interaction to a minimum and hope they die soon.
@airlockengage agreed.
@@ramoncotta1264 that is radical bro!
@@hees0009 That's just straight up confirmation bias though and doesn't save you at all from the ramifications of the Dunning-Kruger effect. You can be in danger of being manipulated and your confidence exploited before you even know it, you won't see it coming because you were so sure you were right and now you're too embarrassed to be wrong.
Cathy is a bully then plays the Victim when she lost
That's exactly what bullies usually do ...
How to be a Marxist 101.
I wouldn't say she is a bully, but rather, this is her job - she needs to interrogate, question and command soundbites from the interview. Yes, she may personally agree with much of what she is saying, but there are times where she needs to play devil's advocate. That is how I see it anyway.
Jerome . HAHA! thats a good point.. But I don't Think Cathy's saying things Out of context, over simplifications, misrepresentations and misleading are form of intellectual interrogation.. Cathy is a Bully its her Job to do so.. She is no Devils advocate. She is just Dumb. Seriously Just watch the "Lobster" part.. You will see her Level of Intelligence.
Jerome.. She is misleading and misrepresenting what Jordan had said.. ANd that is what bully always do. Then once you trap and defeat the bully. They play as a Victim in which is what she did.. She even claim that the Jordan Fans will gonna harass her.
I’ve learned to say “If you want to know what I’m saying, you’ll have to stop talking and listen.”
Brilliant; thanks, I'll use that if things get too heated!
That's a good one. Well done.
“I’ll answer when you stop talking.”
I have used that. It worked as part of a larger solution.
@@DeborahThird-og1uoThey'll keep talking. They have no shame.
This level of clarity and mental speed is not achieved by simple tips and tactics. This shows a long time of commitment to truth. When you commit to saying what you think is true, it will be easy to see clearly what's in front of you, see through people's bs, see through the games, call things out and quickly be able to straighten distorted arguments. Once you choose true, life will become the best adventure of your life.
Yes! Could not have said it better. 🙌🙌🙌
I also think that this is the more authentic (and easier) approach. Much better and faster than to learn all those tricks and games by heart.
I love that thought!!! 🙌🏼👍🏼👌🏼
Great comment
Yes, so much of this cannot be taught. It can be identified in how it becomes a successful debate, but cannot be taught. It comes with a lifetime of educating oneself and being a keen listener.
Bad idea to play mind games with a psychology professor.
Equally bad to play psychological games with a mind professor.
Like challenging the Flash to a game of tag, lmao.
@@dorianphilotheates3769 Equally bad to mind a psychological play with a game professor
probably not an idea, more of an habit and intuitive behaviours (just learned what's usually effective by intuitive trial and error over years and got into the habit of practicing it)
so it's like trying to make a medical doctor sick?
Peterson: “gotcha”
Newman: “so you’re saying that you now own me.”
😂
He DID own her
@Sirius Stark Al Ghul this comment popped up and before I recognized the thread, my initial thought was "what did I say now?"
Lmaoooo
@Sativa Rommola so what your saying is asia is incapable of engaging in underwater combat
I've been doing this for years, and never realized the technique behind it. I was raised by a Father who never appreciated any thought or idea he didn't believe was his. So I learned from an early age the art of letting the other person have my idea. I have since used this successfully in business and personal life for decades. People get so hung up on making sure people know something was "their" idea, that they miss out on having it widely adopted.
genius!
That’s very insightful and remarkable! It speaks to your confidence in your identity (even as a child) and a rare kind of high achiever that seeks for the greater good rather than primarily self glorification. God bless you!!!
This is so true ! Who care where the idea came from?!? If your ego needs that, then go for it. Take it as your own.
@@JoyCrossbridge That's a nice thing to say, I never though of it that way. I was just trying to keep the peace and get things done :).
@@K162KingPin “Humility is the surest sign of strength.”
~Thomas Merton
You unwittingly learned to turn your negative circumstances into something positive…that’s wonderful spiritual alchemy! ☺️
I love the bit about the risk of offending a person and how Jordan answers it, "In order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive. You're certainly willing to risk offending me in the pursuit of truth. Why should you have the right to do that? It's been rather uncomfortable." (I also love the hilarious comments in here.)
The level of patience Peterson has is just out of this world.
Yeah, when i argue with people, Ibget unpatient that they wont realize that they're wrong, or that im right, and they just keep babbling ao that they can somehow make themselves right, or make me wrong
It's just common sence. He knows how visably getting angry makes you look and as psychology professor he knows exactly how anger works.
It really gives you the upper hand if you are laid back and patient when the other person is attacking you. It wrong foots them because they wanted to make you angry and it doesn't work. I had a boss do that when I was representing another worker's interest. I just sat back patiently and let him vent his anger until he ran out of steam. Then I calmly asked him if we could discuss the subject now he had got that off his chest. Needless to say I walked out of that room with everything I went in there to get, and the worker was delighted that I had won for him. If you lose your rag, you are going to lose the argument, and that boss knew that. So did Cathy Newman. If Jordan had lost his rag at any moment she would have made mincemeat out of him.
Yes being a woman myself I have to agree and I also would have to be tied to the chair!
I could not agree more! I so wish I had his level of patience!
This lady doesn’t even want him to talk. She just wants to hear her own voice
Exactly
She's no lady...
She is womansplaining xD
In my experience, the people who talk over you refuse to listen because they're terrified of the fact that you may be right and they may be wrong. That terror manifests in frantic anger, which is why ignorant people are so frustrating to talk with.
This video is montaged in a way that makes her seem like a bully (if I had to decide whether she really was or not, I'd say she was), but we lack context. The cuts are way too short.
I've learned since I was very little that I wasn't worthy of anything. Eventhough I saw many successful people on television. I saw very highly intelligent people too. I never believed that my environement was going to play a role in my future. This is why I involved myself in educational goals. Graduated from High School. Graduated from College. I never listened to the put downs. If I did I would never create Art. Photography. Become an Author. Compose music for movies, television, videos would have been an obsticle for me, and never think that I would mount to anything. I didn't believe that I couldn't make it. I learned everything I wanted to learn through reading books, and anything educational. There is no limit, but the one you place on yourself.
This is true
Well done.
The “right to not be offended” line always cracks me up. This isn’t a right.
You only have the rights you can afford to defend.
there is a great south park episode about this
They offended individual need only choose not to be offended. Also, not a "right" anywhere in the world.
When I was studying Law I learned that it is not illegal to offend someone, i.e., to hurt their feelings. So she's arguing that a person has a legal right to not be offended? Give me a break. People get their feelings hurt all the time. Only if you're living in one of these goofy, liberal, socialist countries can you get legal relief for that.
@@Blogdorf’goofy liberal…’ so, the entire western world then? 🤷🏻♂️
UA-cam: How to avoid embarassing yourself in an argument
"so you are saying that i embarrass myself in every argument??"
I know that I do
Hhhhhhhhhhhhhhh powerful one, for whoever understand it
This comment is the winner.
I used too
Nice one
Peterson: “What a clear, sunny day.”
Newman: “So you’re saying clouds have no right to be here?”
she was just trying to make sure she understands whats hes implying, because Peterson's arguements most of the time werent consistent enough to serve the premise
hahahahahaahaha the best comment ever ...she is insane
@@roye6961 I can't tell whether or not you're joking.
@@roye6961 How about answering then ?
@@roye6961 I really truly hope you were joking. Peterson literally could not have been clearer in his positions.
I remember watching that interview, and feeling my own anger at people using these aggressive tactics on me, the strawman thing and gaslighting and assuming you already agreed to the sale, et cetera. Thank you for analysing the debate so well for me. Now if only I could remain calm and not go into suppressed violent thoughts when verbally attacked.
These awful cancel culture people have taken alot out of Peteresen's hide, too. Keep fighting back. He does.
Learn defensive rhetoric and apply it.
Your anger comes from your powerlessness. Once you can back up yourself, you'll feel much better.
It's kinda necessary because the world is full of self centered assholes.
Above all remember that you are righteous, when people choose to engage in that kind of thing, you are above them by default.
Having blown off university learning, it’s so very nice to watch MR Peterson at work. He’s such a genius. I recall watching this the week it happened. Might’ve been the day but was so awesome
Notice how she asks a question, then talks over him when he tries to answer.
Yes, but only in the entire interview.
She is absolutely renowned for doing that as are most feminists as quite often they don't want to hear the answer as it will not fit with their agenda.
My teacher does that as well, when were having an argument
@@robinkoci7227 That's just sad. If you are clearly wrong, it will come out in discussion. They seem afraid to be proven wrong. Show this to them. Re-evaluate your tactics. What you're doing makes your position look less correct because you're attempting to shut someone else out of the conversation, pre-emptively. Take a moment and THINK.
That's exactly what my mom does...
Jordan: "I like dogs"
Kathy: "So you're saying that you hate cats?"
Every liberal everywhere. Freakin nut cases
Lmfao
Running or Jumping in excitement.
"So you are trying your level best to make the life of the disabled person miserable. Don't you ? "
@@spartan2906 haha on point
@@bgmagma10R We'd need to see substantial evidence for that. Especially when you state "every". Not most, not many, every. Please show the evidence.
"So you're saying...that you have just ended my career?"
Honestly she did, 😂 haven't heard of her since 2018. Since JP annihilated her
Cathy Newman moved on, when will you?
I could not be in the same room with this lady. He could have annihilated her but he always is checking himself... brilliant human
That's no lady!
She made me want to throw up 😂😂😂😂 he handle her brilliant ly.
Good Lawd
She annihilates herself
Yuck
@@HappyOne3 Cathy is a perfect example of the consequence of equality of outcome. Had the broadcaster chosen the best inquizator for their chief interviewer, they might have stood a better chance of embarrassing Dr Peterson. But then of course that inquizator might have been a white male which would have blown away their ludicrous agenda.
@@HappyOne3🙏🙏 for new job
Him saying “gotcha” actually helped her. The awkward silence would have been much much worse for her.
Fact
Agree
But not the right move
Great point
So once again, he was being nice.
Jordan: breathes
Interviewer: So you're disrespecting dead people
😂😂
This has gone "a bit" to far...
😂 😂 😂 Like seriously
Ha haha hahaha Haa... This comment nearly killed me!
🤣🤣🤣
The most impressive with JP is not that he's intelligent and smart (many are but not many that publicly) the most impressive in my eyes is that he's seem to really be working on himself, not to win only but, to actually grow. That's unusual in our time. And he share's that journey, which might even be unwise for him perdonally but ... idk...
Watching this to learn how to talk to my mother. She is a true "conversational bully."
So... you're saying you've been enabling her?
I hate how much I relate to this comment 😂 my dad popped into my mind instantly
He is a clinical psychologist with years of experience dealing with angry, self righteous people like the interviewer.
in otherwords this may have been her show, but it was his episode
@@takaw.d8486 yes, 😂😂😂
Let's add the fact that he have a PHD in Clinical Psychologist, and was a Post Doctoral researcher (in the same matter) for 3 more years, and been the author and co-author of more of 100 academic researches.
@@wasabi.2839 yep all of that up against some angry whining baby that can only say a few words "g-g-gu gu-so youre saying that-"
Oooh that's why he's so good with words, he gets under people's skin with cheap tricks too by begin a psicologist
Peterson: "You look great today".
Interviewer: " So, you're saying that I was ugly yesterday?"
gold
Girls are girls😴
Sometimes they twist your words
"YES"
Interviewer: "Are you religious"
Peterson: "Depends on what you mean by religious"
Interviewer: "Do you believe in the Bible"
Peterson: "Depends on what you mean by the Bible"
Interviewer: "Are you a man capable of answering questions"
Peterson: "Depends on what you mean about man, capable, answering and questions"
Yup. You Peterson fanbois love to make fun of women like pathetic incels. Yet your hero is equally pathetic as the women you attack.
This wasn’t even a two party conversation this was the My way Cathy show
This one is tough. I was listening to him talk about this conversatio. They had Met in the green room and he said that a lot of her views aligned with him and that she was a very pleasant. He was actually taken back by the way she acted onset.
Jordan: I.....
Cathy: So you're saying you're the only one?
hahaha! That was a good one Alana.
Good one Alana
This. I had witnessed a classmate (who was actually a real b!$%# under the surface, which I clued into long before) go about doing exactly what this woman did to another classmate with whom I was on friendly terms with. This was in college, and the professor for that class had actually gone to the effort to get them to explain to each other clearly exactly what they were saying. Too bad the girl went and spread bull about her behind her back a day later in another class, all because she was an insecure piece of work (I pity her boyfriend, though).
I really hate when people pull stuff like this because they're essentially putting words in your mouth that you didn't say just to get under your skin. It's one of the reasons *why* I absolutely dislike arguing with people, especially if they're never going to admit that they're the ones who are full of it.
we almost have the same name!
😂😂😂😂😂
I'm a female, and I am grateful for men like Jordan. He tells women what men want and not what we want to hear. I'd rather have a man than have things.
Yes, life goes much easier when we seek to know the reality of the situations we are in.
Oh my god - you are shameful
That liberal female mentality is why l never married and still single at almost 70.
Okay Nora, and have you been picked yet?
I would rather have a man like that in the world with us, there should be more of them. I personally don't want a man or woman, I do have "things" but I also have a great relationship with each of my children and my good friends and family. Cathy here thinks she is being so clever but I am seriously embarrassed for her. She is being sneaky and bulldozing him with various "points" running into him with several ridiculous points buried into one sentence. If she were playing a game, I would say she is being sneaky and cheating.. Jordan Peters on is the hero if this game in my opinion. This woman is keeping him on his toes but he handles it well. I couldn't have handled it so well. He is incredible.. I also agree with loads of his views and believe he was treated terribly by not only this interviewer but by others and by his university and by his government..
⭐⭐⭐⭐ Unquestionably, the most annoying attitude of Cathy Newman is her ability to continuously talk over Jordan Peterson. This shows the level of non courtesy when conducting an interview.
She said "so your saying" over 20 times that interview.
over 75 times in the actual video!
*you’re
Maybe they are trained to do so.
Libtards love this phrase, they absolutely do. I’ve encountered this illogical phrase countless times - whenever I try to get a point across, they just throw it at me.
It's the tone in which they say it, clearly Newman was trying to entrap Peterson, but you could say the same thing in an ordinary conversation and it would be fine.. Newman was clearly looking for straw for her strawman though
Peterson: "Is nice to see you"
Interviewer: "So you are saying is ugly to see every other woman?"
CATHY YOUR SAYING ABOUT 50 TIMES
Tbh most woman do this
😂
Lol
I think that's the most telling thing about this 'interview'. Every question she asked of him was just a warped and twisted regurgitation of a valid point he'd made that she simply couldn't accept or understand. It was't so much an interview as a hit piece. You could tell in the way that she shotgunned questions she was reading from her tablet that she didn't care about answers, merely wanted to hurl accusations at him.
Just stumbled onto your content and this is great stuff. As someone who suffered from social anxiety from a young age, it's taken a huge blow to my ability to communicate effectively during contention. I'll have to dive deeper into each of these concepts to get a better understanding. Thank you!
Good analysis. Very helpful. Thanks for putting this up.
I liked it when he said "it was nice talking to you" at the end of the interview. The only untrue thing he said.
Well, it may have been uncomfortable, but for Peterson, that kind of conversation adds to his total understanding of humanity, so he is still glad that it happened.
Should of said nice of you talking at me.
He simply enjoyed toying with her and he let her know. I wish to be at his level. Maybe next life.
I'm with Manticore on this one. The response could have been genuine, cause both of them left with an experience.
I think Cathy got hot for the man
"How to avoid embarrassing yourself".
1) Don't be Cathy Newman
Damn, that's accurate !!
2)Don't speak what the media feeds you
Classic 🤣🤣🤣🤣
1) don't be a communist/socialist...
If she was interviewing Kim Jong Un, I'm pretty sure you'd think she is doing a damn good job. In my eyes, she did her work splendidly. In normal conversation however, she'd be a huge red flag giving off narcissistic vibes
Watching this conversation progress actualy hilighted to me that I already do effectively recognise and confront these pitfalls and traps in everyday conversation without having to intentionally watch out for them as such .which comes naturaly if you really are listening to what others say to you and consider being precise about your wording before you speak .i think that it follows that if you practise trying to convey to people in conversation exactly what you mean then you do also look carefully at their wording to ascertain its validity in the context that they're being applied. The ones that you should walk away from and disregard are those who have to be right now matter the level of denial that they have to embed themselves in to do it .I know one person at least ,an older guy i work with who is so set in his own ways that he reacts defensively, to even rather shallow depth that I present in my points of view. That ."So your saying phrase "! Coupled with a strongly dismissive attitude. But it isn't about what I'm saying at all ,and is really about him choosing not to listen properly because he cannot cope with the complication of details .being drawn into discussing details that butt up against his frustration and impatience seem to be the true cause of the issue .
I've watched the interview several times, though with your help this is the first time I see just how quickly he responded to her poop. Thanks, and thumbs up again Jordan.
Peterson: "I like cats".
Interviewer: "so you are saying that we should kill dogs"?
Abyssinia Empire hahahaha yep
Abyssinia Empire politics in a nutshell
If u reversed that I would agree with it.
that sums it up
Bingo!!!
Peterson: Womens individual choices effect how much money they make
Interviewer: So you are saying that you hate women and will actively try to keep them down financially and eliminate women's personal choices...................
I'm starting to think this was less of an "interview" and more of an interrogation.
just an attack on him really
@@diatom333 and a horribly backfired one
Stargate fan I see 👀
and a very agressive one by the way
I'm a journalist and I believe this is a very bad piece of journalism. The woman is clearly biased and is constantly attacking him.
Super interesting! Loved your unpacking of these conversational techniques!
I love this!
You had the luxury of calm contemplative analysis after the fact. If you could do this in the middle of her wretched performance , well then you could pretty much win any debate.
But I would have to memorize what you said and then then STUDY STUDY TO SEE IT IN THE CONTEXT AND THINK, THINK HOW I MYSELF, COULD DO THE SAME.
But thanks for the demo….well done.
What do they teach them in COLLEGE THESE DAY?!?!!!
Jesus christ i barely talk properly, now i have to talk like im playing chess...
Lol
😂😂
Four player, three leveled holo star wars chess.
@NO NAME haha no hail satan
Smart comment, made me think of it in another way
"Winning" an argument is easy. Changing someone's mind is another story.
Do you think Kathy is of the kind whose mind you can change? Lol
Nope
Then you gotta wonder is it worth that.
That is what free speech is about... I can silence one person but that doesn't mean that i won... I just silenced that person... I didn't actually won...
Winning an argument or debate is subjective. Each person will always say that they won the debate. Majority of people want there personal views and beliefs to just be fact without evidence.
This is priceless. It happens to me all the time. People talk to me as if they are my boss and I am under their control. It's really good how you explain it.
Very educational, thanks for pointing out important debate techniques.
Jordan: "YES"
Kathy: "So you're saying NO?"
Jordan: "NO"
Kathy: exactly
Kathy every 10.0 seconds: "So you're saying..."
_Proceeds to say something which he never said._
@@sankalp2520 😂😂😂broo😂
@stefano Greco H. thnx mate😘😂
Laugh really hard with this one 🤣🤣
Peterson: "Hi"
Interviewer: "So you're assuming I can speak English?"
The north is just lost
Polar bears, seals, ice, water, a pole, it's a MESS
Peterson: I am actually right though.
PenisMcWhirtar How is Autism a sign of being lost?
@*Black *Maple* shutup snowflake
Peterson: ohhh, so you really like Dogs???
Interviewer: oh Yeees.
Peterson: so you agree that the Cats should be all killed?!!!!
@Charisma The "Ha Gotchya" was good I think. It was an attempt at *play* and *breaking the tension* of the interview where he's showing that there is no hard feelings with her going at him as her job is requiring her to do. Never mind the pot stirrers that want to make something out of nothing. He says one small phrase and gets more criticism than what she did to him for the entire interview.
kid : he didnt "MAKE" her 😖... he brought her to a point of humility - wisely !!
Jordan: **inhales in preparation to speak**
Cathy: "SO YOU'RE SAYING..."
and the winner is... :-)
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL - This is the best one!!
Level asian
So you think you have more right to breathe oxygen than women
@@fabooshka Why, yes. Yes I do.
We all know Jordan deserved his "gotcha" moment.
The entire interview was a gotcha moment.
@@philipberggren1823 So what you're saying is, Cathy won the debate?
@Michael Jordan lol I know, my comment is just a meme
@Michael Jordan can be hard to read sarcasm on the internet sometimes 😂
he definitely indulged after considering it a net benefit of breaking the silent tension for her. it was a pretty friendly gesture playing on how trappy her incessant strawmen were.
To imply that by saying, "Gotcha," closed the door on a potential eye-opener on Kathy's behalf, after having stated she's committed 5 negative/aggressive conversational tactics is denial 'on command.'
It was a perfect phrase for an aggressive, not truly listening just waiting for their turn to speak individual like Kathy. The lady isn't having a conversation. It's someone who's trying to have a monologue & win.
At 6:11 mark, I paused it and said I'd tell her that she should answer her own question since shes been dispalying textbook abusive behaviors and extreme anger this ENTIRE Interview, and that if she'd rewatch herself with some honesty and integriry, then perhaps she'd offer up better advice than he ever could for these supposedly abusive and angry people because frankly we ALL know it takes one to KNOW one and she clearly speaks their language better than Peterson ever could!
He deserved that "Gotcha" after tolerating her attacks.
That was SWEET.
He may have deserved it, but doing the same thing the other person does is never the right move when it comes to winning anyone over. It only is on their same level - humiliating and demoralizing them. It wasn't in good taste, but everyone makes mistakes. Overall, he still did an excellent job - certainly much better than many others do.
I saw it as more of an ironic "gotcha" like he wasn't trying to do that, but he's happy he got her to see his side without belittling her. If he could've taken control of the interview back right there and said something like how he didn't actually want to have a "gotcha" moment, and he's happy she's seeing his side, it would've made him out to have taken the high road and still beat her.
@@CHIEF__ Jordan was playing with her.
He has treated 100's of women the carbon copy of *Katty,* the most telling part of the whole interview was when JP said;
"I suspect that your unpleasantness has served YOU very well over the years"
Katty's rep;
"Yes.... YES it has in fact"
JP was gentle with her, because he knows just how mentally fragile she truly IS.
@@aqua3418 If I were Jordan, I don't want to win that woman over. So Gotcha all the way.
Jordan Peterson: “I’m an analyst and therapist.”
Cathy Newman: “so what you’re saying is you’re an Analrapist?”
Edit: I no longer care for Jordan Peterson.
Stop stealing comments
Brilliant! 🤣🤣👑
Alek Blaylock 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bruh 😂😂😂
@@Afs-g1clor cuz it's exactly same comment from original video
Thank you for this insight.
Thank you so much for this insightful video, just excellent
Jordan declaring, "gotcha" was actually a gracious way of breaking the tension by lightening it up a bit. He could have annihilated her and let her stew in her embarrassment.
Great point. He pulled her out of a hole there i thought.
He actually felt bad about not being able to refrain himself from saying that. He has explained several times that there he lost the opportunity to have an actual intellectual conversation based on that topic. He could have redirected the "debate" to what he pursues, logical expositions. Instead he himself admitted later that he lost his temper there and with it, the gateway to completely change the discussion.
@@Jayako12 i really doubt that this conversation actually could have turned into an honest, intellectual debate. Not under these circumstances. Even if she started to understand and maybe even agree to what he was saying, which to an extent i think she started to do at that very moment, there is no way she would have abandoned her agenda while being on live TV.
In a private conversation? Possibly, but not in this situation.
Agreed. He’s absolutely a gentleman
Excellent point
I think that "gotcha" was intended to be more like ice-breaking, not humiliating. Kinda "stop attacking, let's laugh this off".
@John Galt But she did save her position by a strategy I'd call, 'taking the hit. She's a bit stronger by admitting she's taken damage and that allow you to like her a little bit......'>.......
Agreed. It contrasted so sharply in tone with the rest of the interview that it made him come across as a lot less combative. He gave her an exit out of a tough situation where his silence could have just forced her to change the subject or apologise for making him feel uncomfortable.
I mean at the end of the day they're both professionals and should look out for each other every now and then despite their different views. I think Jordan momentarily kinda felt that empathy given it is her show. It would've been incredibly awkward if they both just kept silent while she takes the blow and tries to stutter her way back in. Props to Jordan for recognising that.
If they'd stop hacking my phone that'd be great. They're damned malicious with hacking. who are they?
I felt like that too
I think I watched this video shortly after its creation and enjoyed it and got a little something out of it. Without really noticing, I've probably watched it once a year since then. And as I watch it now most recently, 6 years down the road... Wow. I don't know if it's just me. But this student is getting more and more ready for the teacher.😅😜
Fantastic stuff. I've learned to implement a lot of it in the last 6 years. Integrated it to the point that some is without conscious thought. Wow. Is life getting easier. Thank you.
I'm glad this video came up. It's going to help me deal with family members that are narcissistic bullies...I hope it helps. I hit the 👍🏽. Thk you
I always felt the moment he said "gotcha" was more to spare her from the humiliating silence he had placed her in
It's true
I agree
Indeed.
like the way how this comment is worded in
Exactly right !! Cos, you hear the awkward silence and then you're thinking, 'someone help here'...and than the true knight in armour Peterson comes to this woman's aide.
How to keep cool: have decades of study, research and professional experience in your field
Surely it can’t hurt your case
Unlike that woman that didn't work for anything
Or just don't care
Short : competence
What if your field isn't psychology
Great break down. I learnt some real strategies that iv'e been hit with.
Too Many People Will Misconstrue a Simple Message & Twist Everything Out of Proportion
The “gotcha” was the best part of the conversation. Jordan showed he can keep his cool, be persuasive and beat her at her own game. The trifecta.
I thought the gotcha was actually him being very kind and helping her out of a floundering silence by making a joke of it. That he had indeed won the point was obvious to all, no need to do the gotcha on that.
Does anyone agree with me on this?
I think I agree with you. I know Jordan said that he regretted saying it because he thinks that if he hadn't he could have moved the discussion into something productive instead of it going back into being adversarial but as you say, the gotcha released the tension of her becoming speechless after she realized she wasn't making sense.
It's hard to know what could have been if Jordan had let it go to an awkward silence while she regrouped.
@@RandomCarrot2806 That's interesting. Although her style was very confrontational, I'm not sure she'd have changed it. She didn't seem well prepared for his academic style, I suppose she's used to interviewing politicians, who run a mile if a journalist hints that they're being anti feminist
Go home girl twisted a twelve year old knows better love you Jordan her intellect was zero
@@nicolab2075 excellent point. And edit, I definitely agree he's not usually ever as interested in owning anyone as others are, which is the point of the guy making the video I'm sure.
Arguments aren't about using facts anymore. It's about who can whine the loudest.
depends on viewer criteria. I'm amazed at how many people use the above for theirs.
thats the difference between an argument and a debate
facts do win the convo but convo with halfwits, it doesn't work haha
Oh my god, yes woman do this a lot
Lol if you let them whine louder
Thanks for this video....I have learned new way of handling situations.... wow
Awesome! Learn so much from your communication examples
Jordan knows himself and he trusts to logic. That makes him comfortable in his own skin. He also has the patience of a saint.
I always thought: people that won't let you talk, will twist your words ect, don't actually believe in their own arguments. Peterson knows that he's right so he'll just let his interlocutors talk until they imminently contradict themselves.
@@emmanuellelarocque9440 The narrator is right....it's conversational bullying. Sometimes overt, but often sneaky or veiled. They aren't there to listen to your point of view or learn something. It's like a battle for them. I see so much of that in UA-cam comments. I think most of us just react with anger and maybe get flustered and deny whatever accusation is being thrown. Jordan is very good at not allowing people to get a rise out of him. Instead, you can usually see them getting annoyed. It's very enjoyable to watch.
Jordan stays calm the majority of the time because he knows that he has stats and research to back his opinion. Which is why in all of his interviews and debates, he always asks the other person to present the evidence and they rarely ever do
@@nexpro6118 I think he has a sort of confidence in what he is saying because he has already thought it all over very thoroughly at some point. His business seems to be thinking and analyzing and trying to come to grips with how things are connected and how they work. And it is also instruction and enabling others to understand, which equips him to defend what he says. Even so, he will pause and consider, in case there are other possibilities, before he responds. The people he debates are seldom so prepared.
@@dodieodie498 very well said...and with that said, I think most people who debate with feelings and the sense of having a higher morally superiority just personally attack the other person because he and or she cannot rely on facts and stats.
Peterson: "I think..."
Interviewer: "So you're assuming that I DON'T think?"
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this is a good one hahaha
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Great breakdown! You got a new sub and recommendations!
Another way to describe their word choice. Notice that most of their main statements are directed at you, acknowledging YOUR thoughts, YOUR decisions.
Good highlights in this video, you brought up some great examples. I noticed the same issues with salesmen, and I hate it when they do that.
One of my main points to teach people when they "debate" points, is to listen to your "opponent". You will often find we share ideas, concepts and knowledge. Finding these shared ideas, are the beginning of reaching an agreement. Remember, debates are not necessarily conducted to "win". They are to find common ground. Convince the other side.
Jordan: uh... this conversation is getting annoying
Cathy: So you're saying talking with women is annoying
Yes.... as with all women.
lol
Name one person in this world who wants to talk to her? I bet she got divorced after this interview lol and she should. This woman needs mental help asap
Yes
“ no that is what you are saying… what led your mind in that direction, I really want to know.”
"It's been rather uncomfortable." That's an amazing line.
Followed by the 2 seconds long frowns face, followed by the smile, hahaha
The change in body language really drove it home for sure.
The smile originates at the upper lip area. It’s almost like a scowl. It says “I can’t stand you but I’m still going to be civil “. His smile is the most overt action to contempt for the interviewer.
Good information here. Thank you! (Liked and Subscribed)
Excellent video! Very much appreciated!
*Reads title of video*
so you're saying that I already get embarrassed in arguments?
Title of the video: Yes, yes I am.
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Peterson: sips water
Newman: ‘So you’re saying we should let Africa die of thirst?’
This is a bad take.
@@matthewadejumo9397 that's the joke
@@yashim08 he was making a joke as well
LOL
He doesn't fall into the "we as a collective" game. There are plenty of groups and individuals working on behalf of Africa.
Every time I come across this video, I want to leave a thank you comment, so finally I do... Thank you, I think this is one of your best episodes, and something everyone should watch at least once, hands down
Brilliant video. Thanks.🎉
im jealous that jordan can have fun in this kind of situation because he's just that good at speaking with people
You can be too
Yes he’s old and experienced. Young and unexperienced people would maybe get aggresive. Jordan just needed to always explain how it actually is and so it made her like complete fockibg clown, when she every single time went for reason misunderstand him.
That too, but I think his confidence comes from his understanding of his logic. He fully knows what he's talking about and is intelligent enough to know what other person is talking about.
He did handle this interview brilliantly but he has later said that it had been extremely stressful for him to go through it, and that it took him a couple of days to recover emotionally from it. He is brave and smart, but human nevertheless.
Me too man.i had to master my art of being "extreme calm"
The "gotcha" was a human reaction. Jordan has said that before the interview, Cathy was very polite to him and they were having a nice conversation. Once the interview started, she switched from having a conversation into a pre-defined character with motives other than just seeking the truth. She is not trying to have a conversation with Jordan, she is trying to create sound bites and achieve some sort of victory over him.
The gotcha was from having to be patient and put up with this nonsense and knocked her completely out of the character that she had been playing. Frankly, he was a lot more polite than 99% of the rest of us would have been.
It's all show business.
Oh ok.... so it's show business to be fake and not real towards others. I see now
That isn't new. Most talk shows do this to their guests. They would purposely agitate the guests behinds the scenes; once they get up on air, the guests would be in a bad mood. Shows that do this are Dr. Phil, Ellen show, Tyra banks show, 90 days fiance, etc. Drama=entertainment=money
@@kackdackel9170 I mean the topic was talking about freedom of speech 🤷🏽♂️ which people are trying to change.
Yes, very polite she was.... I like how she complimented him often and never tried to vilify him at all. She's the perfect example of someone who is ABSOLUTELY IN NOW WAY a misandrist... Not one bit!!! Not at all!!! uh uh... NO sir!!!
Discovered your channel. Watched a few videos and I am hooked. Good job. Keeping making more such videos.
George Galloway gives some great tips on how to handle a debate or questions. His first tip is never to accept the presumptions behind a question and to immediately challenge if you’re not happy with them.
George’s performance when questioned in the US Senate was legendary. He ripped his accusers to shreds. It’s highly entertaining and on UA-cam.
Yes, Galloway's weapon of choice is the exposure of hippocracy. His opponents probably end up wishing they'd never messed with him, like wrestling a skunk and ending up smelling like one. Dr Peterson uses the same device in a more gentle way, pointing out to Cathy she could be violating his right not to be offended (if such a right were to exist).
Yes! I knew there was going to be a very helpful reply in this tread. Thanks!
Someone should have warned her that this man is extremely intelligent.
based.
If she went to Oxford no warning should be needed
@slam slam she’s literally just doing her job as an interviewer; the chances are she was told exactly what to say
Not that he's not intelligent, but debating ia much more about emotional intelligence than any other kind. And that's his true merit.
@ Compared to intelligent men she's not very intelligent. Maybe she's intelligent for a woman.
Peterson: Good Bye
Interviewer: so you're saying I asked you to leave?
Ahahahaha
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Who is doing an interview？And what for？ This video is about How to keep your cool in an argument.
Andrew Dembegiotis best one yet
You don't even need to say anything. You are joging. So, you try to tell me I'm to fat and I need to lose weight?!
This was really cool - Much appreciated!
You talked through the entire video and did my head in.
He is a psychologist and is the hardest man to argue with, and her entire game plan was to try make him slip up with what he’s saying and get him to twist his words, it was a televised slaughter fest and she didn’t even come close
@Kevin Tewey No, that is not what he is saying... lol
@@philliptjackson yep, we are catching it live in 4k the "so, what you're saying is .." trick. You implement the tips in the video correctly sir Phill
@@philliptjackson gottem
Jordan peterson isn't a good debater, he's an excellent public speaker if you already agree with him tho... but as soon as he's on stage with any one that has experience with public debates he's made a fool of... like the debate with Matt dillihunty
@Luc Germain it's actually not, for example let's look at what made him internet famous, his critique of Bill c13. The bill didn't say what he claimed it too... he was hyperbolic about the imitations than none of which came true, he's absolutly out of his depth when he talks about religion and atheism, his comments on lobsters arnt true in the way he describes it or relates it to how people interact... he constantly spews word salad, sounds smart but he doesn't actually back up most of what he says... there is a reason he's considered a joke now by most people familiar with him but not a follower...
I once had a friend who did this to me. She was great at deflection also. I solved the “problem” by leaving the friendship.
did what exactly?? debate your different POVs? answer all your questions in a civilized manner? or prove she was right while simultaneously proving you two actually did agree on the basis of the concepts? i guess i dont see "the problem"... unless of course the problem is that you simply cant handle different ways of thinking and are threatened by the challenge of a different frame of view. hmm, the world may never know.
@@shainavergith183 I think they mean the friend was like Cathy, and not JP.
@@shainavergith183 you're using the smash technique like Kathy in the video . Cuz you are bitter and trigger 🤣🤣
@@calimorysquid nah I still think she doesn't see the problem with this lady's way of communicating.
There's actually a lot of information in the breakdown, and it goes quick. But nonetheless, the narrator breaks it down the way that the interviewer is manipulating the conversation. And unfortunately this person doesn't see it.
I used to be very passive aggressive, and aggressive, myself, with my communication.
Trust me, if you don't see what's wrong, and you ever want to have meaningful relationships, I suggest rewatching the video to see where he points out the ways she is manipulating the conversation.
I suggest to them that they rewatch this video, and listen to try and learn from it.
@@shainavergith183 YOU are the reason this video even exists in the first place.
I love that Gotcha moment. I hope it sticks in her mind until the end of time.
Nice job, very helpful
I wish he hadn’t said ‘Gotcha’ and just sat in silence: I believe he said it because he felt bad for her and threw her a bone.
Yes...dead silence would have been much more embarrassing to her. She actually smiled at that one.
Could you link it?
@@joesmo2042 at 10:03
that is one awkward smile.
He actually said that in a playful tone and tried to temper the discussion.
Jordan: I haven't had my lunch.
Cathy: So you're saying I should make you a sandwich.
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Yes
Hey, this is a copied comment
Paranoia can do that to a person turning every simple sentence into supposed threat 😅
Yes
JP: Its weepy Wednesday.
Kathy Petersen: So your saying taco Tuesday cause volcanic diarrhea.
Fascinating to watch!! Two different perspectives and the opposite argument styles.
Jordan Peterson , Logical Argument, sometimes with bursts of emotion.
Cathy Newman with Emotional Appeal.
I found out by experience that is easier for the logical to understand the emotional than the emotional to understand the logical.
Peterson: "silence"
Cathy : Are you implying that talking to a woman isn't worth your time?
Good one
Legend27
Peterson: **silence**
I say that talking to women is a waste of time and even dangerous to men every day and I mean it, women know that they can lie about you and spread it all over town and a man can be arrested after having done nothing wrong and they say you can't hit a woman. Today's women are dangerous and they know it they use our judicial system like a club and you better be able to duck.
Ohhh my soul😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣