Come Follow Me - Jacob 1-4 (part 1): Faith & Great Anxiety
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
- Part 1 of a 2-part study of Jacob 1-4 (this part will cover chapters 1-2). This lesson focuses on Jacob's background, passing down the plates, prioritizing, faith and great anxiety, viewing the death of Christ, dichotomizing and demonizing, the 3 great sins, hard conversations, materialism & pride, problems with polygamy, and more. Join Jared Halverson for your weekly Come Follow Me study of the Book of Mormon!
0:00 Introduction
1:24 Biographical Background
8:05 Passing Down the Plates
18:10 Prioritizing
23:06 Faith & Great Anxiety
32:03 Believe in Christ & View His Death
47:56 Succeeding Nephi
51:19 Dichotomize & Demonize
54:35 The 3 Great Sins
1:02:21 Free of the People's Blood
1:08:07 Having the Hard Conversations
1:28:23 Materialism & Pride
1:38:21 Before Ye Seek for Riches
1:49:06 Unity & Equality
1:52:08 Problems with Polygamy
2:23:42 Broken Hearts & Lost Confidence
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“Weaving straw into gold . . . Turning affliction into empathy, and weaving catastrophe into compassion.” What a beautiful depiction!
I was, selfishly, saddened to hear that the lessons were going to be shorter. The in depth analysis of each lesson has been so helpful in my spiritual journey. I will be forever grateful to my friend that introduced me to your channel. I understand your need to 'down size', but cannot even imagine how that will work. You give so much insight. THANK YOU for sharing your talent ❤❤❤
I think this is the first time I ever cried when I read “And it came to pass that Nephi died.” This is directly due to how you have humanized and brought him to life. Thank you for that.
I am a new one to the Church and I tried and tried to read the BOM but still don't understand.. i was angry and had bitterness in my heart until I found you Jerod Halverson... Thank God for bringing you up to these days to make the Book more clearer.. God may bless you Amen From a Tongan Crusader Tino on the Road
So glad you are here!
Welcome! ❤
Brother Halverson, I look forward to hearing you teach each week! Thank you so much for your time.
I just want to voice that you're amazing! What you have to offer is real meat. I love the milk, but this meat that many of us have craved for, is now available to us through you. Our understanding and depth of love and appreciation for these Scriptures and our Savior are ripening. To feel what you make us feel and just see it all come to life before our very eyes is all that one can do to keep from having a "daily" cry. For myself, you have deepened my deepest desires to live better and become all these things that you educate
us on with such tenacity, humility and caring. Feeling to our bones how unshakable you are in your testimony of these truths really brings one to their knees, wanting to overcome every imperfection and stand so pure offering our best fruits to the Lord.
That's so hard! When you fail to be your best and your weaknesses win, you feel such shame in knowing the Lord sees every act, frustration, sins of commission and omission and every thought! What have you done to me! I can't even feel justified anymore and wallow in my own self-righteousness!!! I know I'm right and everyone else is wrong!!! 😉 🤣 In the end, none of that matters . . . I guess I have just spent a lot of time in saying a simple thank you. FYPI, I have always had a very deep testimony of Jesus Christ and his gospel. These things are not new to me but it's wonderful to have an understand of things that are so meaningful to me that I never looked at that way before. This "gift" you have and continue to give, is precious and dear to me because it has brought me closer to the Savior and made me realize my own personal worth in his eyes . . . and that means everything.
1:23 Well said!!!
choosethisday, I feel the same way about our brother Jared is a excellent teacher. Brings out better understanding of those precious words of the Lord in myself. I read over the scriptures and by the time I finished 1 chapter it didn't make near the impression or understanding I got when listening to Jared. He is a master of the scriptures. I would love to see Jared basically put all these chapters in his words and his teachings. I think I could understand the scriptures much better like the Old and New Testament even the Book of Mormon and the rest back in those days. Like the Bible has what 20 different versions of language and the other churches read them. I think I would get more out of the scriptures now in the year 2024 if I read them from Jared's teachings. I think that would be too easy for our minds and that would cause us not to pray as much and ask the Father, what did I just read🙏 and what does it mean😳 now I know why he is called as a teacher to teach the scriptures to us now, because we are running out of town and the Lord said we need to play catch up instead of stumbling around so long on the scriptures. It's going to be time to graduate real soon and we're still in the fifth grade, even though the Lord knows he's working with handicapped children on Earth and most of the children have attention deficit man's wandering around like they didn't get enough sleep the night before😴 and some have anger problems 😠 and some get too much baggage 😢 so the Lord sends Jared with a tremendous load to carry to snap us back into shape with the ripple effect. Those who Miss Jared's teachings is missing out big time. I believe if some of these other churches would listen to Jared's teachings they would jump ship and ride the wave to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints right into the Lord's ship all the way into eternity❤
These verses really helped me and my family when we went through a difficult time. Tender hearts were broken and then healed.
Thanks Bro Halverson, you are doing a great job!
I have always had a secret question in my heart about how the Lord sees me as a woman. My sweet husband of 46 years was surprisingly called Home 3 years ago, and I miss him terribly. It's the worst trial I've had to face. But it has spurred me into much deeper study and learning that I wouldn't have cared about before. Bro. Halverson, your lesson on Jacob 2 and D&C 132 brought me so much comfort about this subject. I think many of us girls secretly wonder if we'll have to share our Eternal Companion with someone else, and this has helped me know how much the Lord cares for our feelings. ❤️
Brother Jared Halverson
I love this book for many reasons, I also have a son Jeremiah Jacob.
And I love each Prophet and they are different from the next, just like now .
I found your 101 Jacob and Mental Health...
I really appreciate each Video and Fireside,/ Talk you give. Thank you for all you give us ❤📖📱🙏 56:25
There are many resources out there for Come Follow Me. I too wish these were shorter; however, I enjoy them enough that I find the time to listen to them. If I didn't, I would just go find another source of information. Brother Halverson, you just keep doing what the spirit guides you to do, the rest of us can make a choice.
I was looking forward to these chapters covered. Brother Halverson, Thank you for painting a simple and direct picture of the differences from our church’s history of plural marriages vs David’s concubines/ the nephites beginning to head that direction. It was troubling my heart. The warmth of the Holy Ghost filled me as you were teaching. I so appreciate you. My relationship with the scriptures, God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost have been strengthened and deepened over these years of listening to Unshaken. I am forever grateful for you and your many, many efforts. The Pratts love you, Brother
“I don’t compare myself to others, I only compare myself to my potential.” ~ The Travelers Gift
Thank you, Brother Jared, for such a great explanation about plural marriages! The rule and the exception to that rule ..... Heavenly Father's rule and exception!
Thank you! Week by week anwers are coming to questions I've had for decades ... God bless you, and those who sustain you... ❤
You gave me a new paradigm on "magnifying" your calling. When you pointed out the contrary of limiting, I thought of how a magnifying glass focuses your vision. Yes, focus on the main thing!
I agree with those comments of regreting that we have to cut the lessons short. I have learned the deepest spiritual understanding in these very personal lessons even though we have never been introduced personally.
After my mission, I also took a Book of Mormon class from Vern Somerfeldt. I often think of him and how he helped me fall in love with reading the Book of Mormon. His class honestly changed my life as that practice (of sincerely reading daily and focusing more on what I'm putting into my study than on how many pages I read) has been a lifeline through the ups and downs of the last 30+yrs.
brother all i can say for all you teaching you are a humble man of our saviour thank you very much for this great feelings in my heart i do really feel joy every words of the gospel its soo delicious this is amazing joy that i always feel. in my heart ❤️😊
Thank you, Bro Halverson, for all that you bring to the table to helps us understand the scriptures more. I am grateful for your teachings and insights into the gospel.
Thank You Brother Halverson!!
You are "that" professor for me. Over the years these lessons have lit a fire under me and I am growing by leaps and bounds I know that we are not supposed to run faster than we are capable but is anybody ever really pushed to see how capable we are? I'm at Mach 1 and I don't see a ceiling yet. 7 years ago I died a post triple bypass surgery complications. I was gone for 35 minutes and I was with the Lord. I felt woefully unready to be there in his presence. Modern medicine pulled me back to Earth and I have taken this opportunity to learn and grow and so when I show up the next time, I will be ready to be there! You have helped me with this and my heart is so full of gratitude and love for you that it is boundless!! Thank you so very much!!❤
@lesley4215 Wow, seriously, returned to the Lord's presence? I've read several NDE stories, and I find it fascinating to hear how people try to describe th Lord. Have you written down your experience?
Martha made the same effort from the time she asked the Savior to have him tell Mary to help her about the house till she spoke with the Savior again when he came to raise Lazarus from the dead. Her response to the savior confirmed her faith had strengthened, and she took the time and effort to grow closer and stronger in her faith. Thank you for sharing your personal experience.
Thank you, Brother Halverson!
Jacob says, "You excuse yourself because you understand not the scriptures" and then you continue to wrest the scriptures because you do not understand them.
Jacob was clear in his sermon, and the Lord is clear when He said, "cleave unto your wife and none else."
Joseph condemned and denied polygamy. I believe Joseph Smith.
I also find it interesting that the 3 basic temptations of physical appetite, power and greed all lead to the same thing, bondage. Satan sets traps to capture and it always leads to enslavement.
What a beautiful ending to your lesson. Thank you.
Brother Halverson, I appreciate the time we spent with the law of consecration mindsets and how to more accurately internalize those concepts. How we view each other matters.
Jeffrey hunter's protrail of Jesus in the garden was the best I have seen of how Jesus suffered emotionally before the physical. We all knowthe painting of Jesus in the garden praying to His Father, but its so peaceful and we know it was so much more torment.
This was awesome. Thank you to Adam for taking the time to answer these questions. Loved this video, so I formative.😊
I Love listening to you and how you expond the gospel. I just love it.
You are such a blessing in my life. Thank you for spending time in the scriptures with me! You bring them to life! I love you❤
Bro. Halverson, love the fact that i can get a couple of commutes out of one of your discussions.
I was bummed about the shorter version, but am grateful for all the prep you put in.
I could go for 3+ hr discussions as that would give me more time to dive deep.
Keep up the great work!!
I LOVE your podcasts - and have made them my weekly priority to supplement my reading this year. I love the context and light you give to the BofM and the way you address/wrestle with the difficult topics. Amazing insights into Jacob as son and as a leader. Personally, I do not see how a thorough, full study of Jacob 2 can lead one to conclude that the Lord is revealing a polygamy loophole/exception. I think it interesting that Jacob speaks of the land being cursed if they break the laws of chastity/practice polygamy - and clearly, after polygamy was started during the restoration, their lands in Nauvoo and Utah were definitely afflicted and they were persecuted. I also think it is interesting that the church did not get out of debt until after they renounced polygamy - understanding that correlation is not necessarily causation. But I love your heartfelt acknowledgement that Jacob 2 is difficult.
Thank you
Bro Hal, thanks for going verse by verse - helps a lot to see it all in context so we don't risk wresting the scriptures. I will be sad to see the shorter lessons!
Anyways, do you think there is any merit in concluding that the "things" from Jacob 2 verse 30 might be the abominations of polygamy? My careful reading seems to indicate as such.
Also, I do wonder if there is somewhere else in our scriptural canon where a commandment from the Lord against an abomination is so closely followed up by a divine loophole.
God bless!
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Amazing.
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The 3 Great Sins - Pride, Possessions, and Pleasure ( took me a while, but I finally thought of the alliteration 😁 ).
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Brother Jared Halverson
Thankful for each of your videos and Talks.
Found the 101 Jared Mental Health
Just love it
I have a wonderful son Jeremiah Jacob.
I don’t care if you're only a hour.
Your videos are great ❤📖📱🙏 1:02:22 1:02:23 1:02:25 1:02:27
i was prone to "pastoral perfectionism" when I was younger. it was very exciting at first when I was called to be Relief Society president, but after 2 weeks, I started feeling that panic. Why in the world did the Lord choose me, because I'm not anyone special. I didn't look, nor didn't feel, like a RS President. In desperation, I asked the Lord why in the world He had chosen me, and the Spirit answered, "Because I knew that you would say yes." I was so thrilled by that. As long as I was willing, the Lord considered me qualified, and it made the entire experience easier.. I didn't need to be somebody special, just someone who would go out and try my limited best to do the things I was being asked to do. The Lord is kind to those of us with mental health issues.
Much appreciation, again!!! 💙💙💙
I have been having some questions regarding chastity. This video has helped so much. Thank you for your wisdom and in depth comments on this subject. ❤
Thanks for all your teachings. I wonder how Jacob feels when we teach about him, there seems to be a lot of assumptions about who he actually was and reading between the lines
I love you all
Seeing my first crush as an adult and his life got me over him pretty quick.
we are here to live wl love..
Good sound high fidelity with ur video .. thank u 🙏
Big fan of your content. I'll take whatever length you provide. I did think this was somewhat uncharitable to the new king. As far as I can tell, we really have no idea whether that king was part of the problem. This is briefly addressed on the bestofcomefollowme channel. In any event, keep up the good work!
It's interesting how in Words of Mormon 1: 3, Mormon seems more excited about the words of Jacob than of Nephi:
"I found these plates, which contained this small account of the prophets, from Jacob down to the reign of this king Benjamin, and also many of the words of Nephi."
Yes he was excited because these records showed so clearly the doctrine of Christ and the downfall of the Nephites with their 2nd king. Also it shows how easy it is for men to loose the true doctrine of Christ in the 2nd generation just like Brigham Young... Moroni saw our day... he was trying to teach us!
The women testimonies show that they were manipulated by their husband's..
God is unchanging, why would He command his daughters and children hearts to ever be broken by polygamy, now or in church history?
2nd kings often change the affairs of the kingdom. We see this with King Noah and also Brigham Young.. look for the similarities...
Thank you for this video and I have shared in groups these videos and The Special Book 📖 of Jacob each of you had input in writing.
I have a son Jeremiah Jacob, and yes he knew scriptures and enjoyed going to Church and then wrong medicine given that changed his moods and way of thinking about things,
I understand so many things that you have gone through.
Thank you all again for sharing your insights and so many more understanding of life in using scriptures ❤📖🙏 32:22
Brother Halverson,I'm grateful for all the insights you give about the scriptures. It's really a blessing and I know that God will bless you for sharing your knowledge and time with us. I just want to tell you that I notice in the verse 5 of Jacob 1, it doesn't say " great anxiety" in french, it says "vif désir" ( very, lively hope). It should be written "avec grande anxiété". Just let you know. God bless you and your family!
On the anxiety of passing the plates:
I recently read "The Lost 116 Pages" by Don Bradley. Highly recommended. One point it raises for me is 'what is the origin of the Plates of Brass?' This book posits that they were started by Joseph son of Jacob, while in Egypt, and then contributed to and passed along by the house of Joseph to Laban, and then to Nephi.
One way to consider the Plates of Nephi (Large for the Kings record; Small for the Priests record) is a continuation of that general record of 'The Stick of Joseph.'
To wit: "This is God's project. Follow his instructions."
What might Joseph have written on the Plates of Brass, as rules and instructions, that would lead Nephi and thence Jacob to such anxiety about their contributions?
What of those instructions might Nephi have copied to emphasize them in the plates he constructed?
What might those instructions have meant to Mormon and later Moroni, as they constructed their contributions?
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On '-ites': that same list of seven tribes of -ites shows up several times in the subsequent book, and also in the Doctrine and Covenants, most of the time in that same order. Notice, Sam does not have a tribe of -Ites.
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Sermon at the temple: is this at one of the feasts? Which one? Or just a general sabbath?
I named my eldest son Jacob too. 😊
I think The Chosen is portraying the Crucifixion in season 5, then 2 seasons of the Acts of the apostles.
No puedo esperar a conocerlo ahora que viene en Abril a Missouri!!!!
Thank you for this video
38:00 I would love to learn more about how to fall I love with the Book of Mormon, and with scriptures in general. I would love to learn how to study intensly.
If you could shed some light I how to start, that would be wonderful!
I know that there have been parallels drawn between all the divisions of Nephite's people with the 12 tribes of Israel, but it also seems to me that the boiled down version also rings true. In Israel, the people could be summed up with the Israelites and Jews, and in America it echoes with the Nephites and Lamanites. It's interesting 😄.
Thought you were going to shorten at Jacob? Love you, but single mom here with not a lot of time.❤The length gives me “Great Anxiety” bc I want to be able to listen 😅
Jacob 1:12 - Don't you think Nephi would have prayed over the selection of a successor? No doubt he received instruction from the Lord concerning to whom the plates should go. Given all you've said about Jacob, I'm sure he was happier and more effective in the role of spiritual leader as opposed to political leadership.
Jacob 2:23-34 is a chiasmus with the verse in question in the middle of the chiasmus. Looking at it this way you will see that he is not endorsing multiple wives and concubines nor providing any loophole.
Jacob says in verse 23 and 29, thus saith the Lord that the whoredoms (that people have justified doing like David and Solomon of having multiple wives and concubines because they don’t understand the scriptures) are an abomination before the Lord.
Pretty clear so far.
Then here is our traditional interpretation:
For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, 1.) raise up seed unto me [want my people to have lots of babies], 2.) I will command my people [to have many wives]; 3.) otherwise they shall hearken unto these things [obey the traditional commandment of one man and one wife].
So the Lord under this interpretation says it is okay to practice what he just declared for several verses before as abominable before his eyes?
Here is what I have found to be a more correct interpretation that is consistent with every other verse in the Book of Mormon on this topic (see original post for scriptures). For by multiple witnesses is truth/interpretation confirmed.
The key is in verse 25
25. “I have led this people [BoM people] forth out of the land of Jerusalem…that I might RAISE UP unto me a righteous branch.”
26. Lord tells us he doesn’t want this people [BoM] to do like they [David, Solomon, Jews, etc] did of old
27. Lord gets clearer on what he just inferred - “for there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none”
28. Lord declared what he just mentioned that those “whoredoms ARE an abomination before me”
29. “This people shall keep my commandments [of not practicing whoredoms]…or cursed be the land for their sakes”
30. For if I will RAISE UP seed unto me I will command me people [to do what? Look at the chiamus, what did he say in verse 25 about what the Lord would do to raise up seed - to leave on an exodus, from where wickedness is being practiced] otherwise they shall hearken unto these things [abominations].
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32. Then the chiasmus descends to echo the beginning “I will not suffer that the cries of the fair daughters of this people [BoM people], which I have LED OUT OF THE LAND of Jerusalem…” to practice this abomination which is one of the reasons the Lord took them out of Jerusalem!
Continuing to Jacob 3:4-5 after condemning the covenant people [Nephites], he praises the Lamanites because “they have not forgotten the commandment of the Lord, which was given unto our father [Lehi] that they should have save it were one wife and concubines they should have none” and so we are reminded that “the Lord God will lead away the righteous out from among you.” In order to have His people escape the abominations of multiple wives.
There we have it! Jacob just told us that one of the reasons that Lehi left Jerusalem was so that they wouldn’t practice polygamy. To raise up seed to a righteous (quality not quantity) branch isn’t about having as many kids as possible, it is about raising them away from wickedness.
Well said, there is no loophole. IMO the church is under condemnation until they give up this principle, in this life and in the eternities. As Gwendolyn Wyne says, " Polygamy is either wheat or it is a tare, it can't be both."
I wish brother Halverson would see it this way. It’s SO CLEAR!
I'm guessing Lehi drilled in his son's there will be no plural marriages because that was the one thing the Lamanites did NOT do despite not having the scriptures. Maybe that's why, no scriptures to twist.
What is the title of that opening music? it's so hopeful
The reason the Lord gave us the Book of Mormon is to put down all false doctrine that had arisen from the various sects of religion. So we need to use it to understand correct teachings of God. What should one do if there are more women than men? BoM has an answer.
Mosiah 19:17 "And now Limhi was desirous that his father should not be destroyed; nevertheless, Limhi was not ignorant of the iniquities of his father, he himself being a just man."
21:17 "Now there was a great number of women, more than there was of men; therefore king Limhi commanded that every man should impart to the support of the widows and their children, that they might not perish with hunger; and this they did because of the greatness of their number that had been slain."
So the answer the BoM gives us, you don't marry them, you provide for them financially.
Bless you! It nourishes my soul to see men protecting us from this false doctrine using the Book of Mormon🙏
The Book of Mormon was written for us today, not for the Nephites. It was written as historical allegory to present prophetic characters and events that would mean something to its latter-day reader. To waken them up, because they say we are all asleep.
Here’s an example, Jacob 1:15 And now it came to pass that the people of Nephi, under the reign of the second king, began to grow hard in their hearts, and indulge themselves somewhat in wicked practices, such as like unto David of old desiring many wives and concubines, and also Solomon, his son.
Then we get the discourse about don't use the scriptures to justify multiple wives, because it is an abomination. It is plain and simple. God does not change from the left to the right. He does not make that which is evil to be good. Only the doctrines of men will deceive us in this way. Otherwise, how can we trust a God who changes what is good depending on the situation.
Then review Mosiah 9. This is a parallel to Joseph Smith = Zeniff and his interactions if the Governor of Missouri or (King of Lamanites)
Then in Mosiah 11 we read about another 2nd king.
Mosiah 11:1 And now it came to pass that Zeniff conferred the kingdom upon Noah, one of his sons; therefore Noah began to reign in his stead; and he did not walk in the ways of his father. 2 For behold, he did not keep the commandments of God, but he did walk after the desires of his own heart. And he had many wives and concubines. And he did cause his people to commit sin, and do that which was abominable in the sight of the Lord. Yea, and they did commit whoredoms and all manner of wickedness. 4 And all this did he take to support himself, and his wives and his concubines; and also his priests, and their wives and their concubines; thus he had changed the affairs of the kingdom.
The Book of Mormon is using their history as an allegorical warning to us who have eyes to see where they identify several times what a 2nd “king” would do. Who is this 2nd “king” or president of our church? A continued reading of Mosiah 11, will give you more signs of what this person would do.
I err on the side it's always me.
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I have really enjoyed your lessons even though I had read those scriptures I didn't get near the inflammation you provided for us. That means I am lacking understanding big time in my readings of the scriptures. I understood the polygamy thing early in my life and I didn't question all of the immoral activity might have gone on. I knew the Lord mint what he said with no wiggle room when it comes to polygamy. It was only for the chosen and no one else .Not only that it was practiced way back before the church started and those people wouldn't part of the church and then later Joseph is translating The Book of Mormon. Yes Joseph explain to them back then what was meant so be careful how you interpret that. And then the United States pass the law against it in the 1890s. From what I understand only ones that still practice polygamy is the reorganized Church and others outside of the church turn down to us and other countries. I couldn't imagine having more than one wife and I've had to divorce her for similar reasons plus a few others reasons. Our Free Will can get us in trouble if we choose not to live the Commandments and the teachings of the scriptures.
Issac wasnt a polygamist so how does the Lord get it wrong? Joseph wasnt a polygamist. Go to the new Joseph Smith translation. Go to the Joseph Smith Papers and look up 101 on marriage. Go to jacob 2;30 .. raise up righteous seed is not polygamy but righteous people. These things on Jacob refers to the abomination of polygamy...
OK, I have a question that has nothing to do with the lesson, I think. I just got a bee in my bonnet, and I need an answer please.
Is there a space between the resurrection and the final judgment?
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When Jesus appeared to his 11 apostles, after his resurrection, and to the Nephites in America, was he a celestial glorified being?
It is possible the women lied, were coerced, were deceived into practicing this doctrine of the church? 2 Tim 3:1 "This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves...v5-6 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts"
Let's not justify and propagate this evil practice any longer that harms the precious daughters of God.
I have a lot more faith in and respect for our pioneer ancestor women than that they were deceived or coerced or lied about polygamy. They were/are strong faithful women who knew who they were and whose they were. I for one, take their words as their testimonies as they were meant to be.
There are multiple witnesses of the Lord calling polygamy an abomination. Repeatedly throughout the scriptures he tells us that he does not change his doctrine.
James 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
16 Do not err, my beloved brethren.
17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
Alma 7:20 I perceive that it has been made known unto you, by the testimony of his word, that he cannot walk in crooked paths; neither doth he vary from that which he hath said; neither hath he a shadow of turning from the right to the left, or from that which is right to that which is wrong; therefore, his course is one eternal round.
Speaking directly to us today, Mormon 8:33 warns “Why have ye transfigured the holy word of God, that ye might bring damnation upon your souls?”
In Mosiah 11:2 we learn of a second king who “did cause his people to commit sin, and do that which was abominable in the sight of the Lord” because of the practice of having “many wives and concubines”.
Again in Jacob we have reference with emphasis to a second king causing his people to err: Jacob 1:15 And now it came to pass that the people of Nephi, under the reign of the second king, began to grow hard in their hearts, and indulge themselves somewhat in wicked practices, such as like unto David of old desiring many wives and concubines, and also Solomon, his son.
There is a story repeated over and over throughout the Book of Mormon and even the Bible about a people who thought they were righteous (1 Nephi 17:22; Alma 21:6; Luke 18:9) but because of pride they were unwilling to learn and repent of their false traditions, and it led to their destruction. They chose to accept evil as good because they trusted in their leaders over the word of God in the scriptures.
2 Nephi 28:12 Because of pride, and because of false teachers, and false doctrine, their churches have become corrupted, and their churches are lifted up; because of pride they are puffed up.
If Book of Mormon writers could only include 100th part of what they saw, what did they include what they did? Nephi told us to liken the scriptures to our day. The scriptures would be of little worth to us if their intent was merely to teach us history. I believe they are vital for our day, because they contain parallels that are prophesy for our day, and when we see ourselves repeating the same mistakes that led to the destruction of those who thought they were righteous in the BoM, we are to wake up to our “awful situation” (Ether 8:24).
Those who preach evil as good will be held accountable. 2 Nephi 15: 20 Wo unto them that call evil good, and good evil, that put darkness for light, and light for darkness, that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
2 Nephi 28:14 They wear stiff necks and high heads; yea, and because of pride, and wickedness, and ABOMINATIONS, and WHOREDOMS, they have ALL gone astray save it be a few, who are the humble followers of Christ; nevertheless, they are led, that in many instances they do err because they are taught by the precepts of men.
I guess what it boils down to is do we believe in ongoing revelation? Do we believe God speaks to us today? And if the answer is yes, who is he speaking to? Do we believe in prophets, seers and revelators? I can’t imagine why God would leave us alone in these perilous times. I believe he calls prophets to lead his church on the earth.
@@carolburton7150 I most definitely believe in prophets and in continuing revelation. I think the difference is in how we view the scriptures. I believe the scriptures were written specifically for us in the last days. They are warning us about ourselves. I believe that Mosiah 11 and Jacob 1:15 are talking about the LDS church. The scriptures use history to prophecy the future.
D&C 50:4 Behold, I, the Lord, have looked upon you, and have seen ABOMINATIONS in the church that profess my name. 7 Behold, verily I say unto you, there are hypocrites among you, who have deceived some, which has given the adversary power; but behold such shall be reclaimed; 8 But the hypocrites shall be detected and shall be cut off, either in life or in death, even as I will; and wo unto them who are cut off from my church, for the same are overcome of the world. 9 Wherefore, let every man beware lest he do that which is not in truth and righteousness before me.
The types and shadows in the scriptures are of God’s people who end up apostatizing from him and are lead astray because of their leaders. 2 Nephi 13: 12 O my people, they who lead thee cause thee to err and destroy the way of thy paths. Even the Jews (a major type for us according to Isaiah and the BoM) esteemed their leaders as prophets like Moses (Matt 23:2). There has never been just a successive line of prophets- God shows us how he calls prophets in the scriptures, and this is not it. Instead, every time the Lord’s people started to follow the precepts of men over His law, he sent His prophets to call them to repentance. But his people rarely ever accepted them.
Here is one of many examples of this:
Helamen 13:26 Behold ye are worse than they; for as the Lord liveth, if a prophet come among you and declareth unto you the word of the Lord, which testifieth of your sins and iniquities, ye are angry with him, and cast him out and seek all manner of ways to destroy him; yea, you will say that he is a false prophet, and that he is a sinner, and of the devil, because he testifieth that your deeds are evil. 27 But behold, if a man shall come among you and shall say: Do this, and there is no iniquity; do that and ye shall not suffer; yea, he will say: Walk after the pride of your own hearts; yea, walk after the pride of your eyes, and do whatsoever your heart desireth-and if a man shall come among you and say this, ye will receive him, and say that he is a prophet.
(See also Isaiah 28 and Jeremiah 23).
Joseph Smith taught that “If any man writes to you, or preaches to you, doctrines contrary to the Bible, the Book of Mormon, or the Book if Doctrine and Covenants, set him down as an imposter.” - Times and Seasons April 1, 1844. The scriptures in multiple places tell us that God doesn’t change his laws. He gives us more information, but he doesn’t change from that which is right to that which is wrong. To believe that he changes his laws, is to not believe what he has already told you. First he gives us an opportunity to be tested with what he has given us. If we believe what he has given us over what men tell us, we are given more. But if we follow men, what we have been given will be taken away.
3 Nephi 26:9 And when they shall have received this, which is expedient that they should have first, to try their faith, and if it shall so be that they shall believe these things then shall the greater things be made manifest unto them.
10 And if it so be that they will not believe these things, then shall the greater things be withheld from them, unto their condemnation.
The BoM teaches in plainness that polygamy is an abomination. The real question is do we trust in God, or do we trust in a man? We can’t receive ongoing revelation from God if we don’t believe what he has told us.
The BoM and Isaiah teach that first the gospel will go to the Jews. Because they rejected it, it went to the gentiles (which we are included with - title page of the BoM and D&C 109:60). In the end times, the gentiles will also go into apostasy (allegory of the olive tree, the Wheat and the Tares, and D&C 101). They will be given a second chance to repent 3 Nephi 16:10 (just like the type given to us in 1 Nephi where prophets are sent to call the Jews to repentance, but they think they are righteous and have nothing to repent of (1 Nephi 17:22)). Only a few who humble themselves of the false traditions they have been taught, are gathered out and become Kings and Queens of the gentiles are restored with the House of Israel in the end. 1 Nephi 13:42 And the time cometh that he shall manifest himself unto all nations, both unto the Jews and also unto the Gentiles; and after he has manifested himself unto the Jews and also unto the Gentiles, then he shall manifest himself unto the Gentiles and also unto the Jews, and the last shall be first, and the first shall be last.
Another example in 1 Kings 13:1-26 tells us about a man who followed a prophet over what the Lord told him, and he was destroyed as a result.
We have been warned that we will be tested in the same way as the Jews. 3 Nephi 3:3 And all things that he spake have been and shall be. If we are prideful and don’t liken the scriptures to ourselves, and view ourselves as the only people that are right, like the Rameumpton, we will also be in big trouble.
JST Matt 21
47 And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables, they perceived that he spake of them.
48 And they said among themselves, Shall this man think that he alone can spoil this great kingdom? And they were angry with him.
49 But when they sought to lay hands on him, they feared the multitude, because they learned that the multitude took him for a prophet.
50 And now his disciples came to him, and Jesus said unto them, Marvel ye at the words of the parable which I spake unto them?
51 Verily, I say unto you, I am the stone, and those wicked ones reject me.
52 I am the head of the corner. These Jews shall fall upon me, and shall be broken.
53 And the kingdom of God shall be taken from them, and shall be given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof; (meaning the Gentiles.)
54 Wherefore, on whomsoever this stone shall fall, it shall grind him to powder.
55 And when the Lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, he will destroy those miserable, wicked men, and will let again his vineyard unto other husbandmen, even in the last days, who shall render him the fruits in their seasons.
56 And then understood they the parable which he spake unto them, that the Gentiles should be destroyed also, when the Lord should descend out of heaven to reign in his vineyard, which is the earth and the inhabitants thereof.
I find plural marriage very interesting, do you have any suggestions for reading more on the subject ?
This channel has some great, in-depth research youtube.com/@MichelleBStone?si=oEmZWvC2YkGE23Rt
See Michelle Stone's 132 problems
So the parallel would be that Brigham Young wasn't authorized and he practiced polygamy incorrectly?... Don't you see the pattern?
Your comments at the end make you wonder if the new King was in attendance at this Temple teaching. Was he setting the example for this abominable practice?
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The interpretation of Jacob presented here was always so confusing and now that I see the true meaning…man how did we ever talk ourselves into this twisted version.
If the Lord wants to raise up seed, he will command his people like with Lehi in 1 Nephi 7:1 and with Jacob, to have 1 wife and no concubines (because the Lord’s seed is not lots of biological children, they’re covenant people who understand and obey the commandments); otherwise men hearken to the abominable things David and Solomon did and seek to excuse themselves in polygamy.
This is exactly what the LDS did. We’re keeping ourselves from further light and knowledge and it’s time to stop upholding this incorrect tradition and interpretation.
See Jacob 2:30.
See Doctrine and Covenants 132:38 "It's not the fact of plural marriage, it's the form..."
@@jeannieevans4780 My comment is Jacob 2 verse 30. That’s what verse 30 is saying, but we have been interpreting it incorrectly since polygamy was introduced. Before 1852, Jacob’s sermon was understood to be a complete condemnation of polygamy and verse 30 was simply read as Jacob continuing his reasoning (it starts with “for” because it’s more of the same). Hyrum Smith taught it as a perpetual principle to be observed by the Saints.
The fact of polygamy or plural marriage or whatever we want to call it, is actually the sin according to the Book of Mormon:
“Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.”
So it’s only okay to break the heart of your wife if God commands it? I have been following brother Halverson for a couple years now and I have learned so much from his insights! I love the verse by verse study!!! But he just did what Jacob 2:23 says not to do. Not that he is excusing himself but excusing our ancestors for doing. “Using the scriptures to excuse themselves in committing whoredoms”.
Sorry brother Halverson but I disagree with you on this topic and your interpretation of these verses.
I said the same thing until I was able to study some of the early pioneer accounts. If I may, what I found was that many of the pioneer saints called to live plural marriages received their own spiritual witness and confirmation that it was the Lord’s will for them to enter into and practice as such. It was heart breaking for both husbands and wives and also a source of great blessings and joy. While I still don’t “love it” I came to respect their voices and their ability to receive their own revelation for their own lives as I’d hope they’d offer up for me. My family lines both have plural marriages from early church history which I can see strengthened my opportunity to have the gospel as I have had it. Many Latter-day Saints descended from these families have said the same. It is possible the Lord commanded it for his purpose to raise up a people he could partner with to accomplish his work in the last days.
@@plum_colored_dahliaI agree, I have studied plural marriage some from a spiritual perspective (pioneer era). I received a confirmation that it was commanded of God (though this witness didn’t come right away, but after the trial of my faith). I’ve heard Brother Halverson say that we’re not supposed to feel good about polygamy because we are commanded to live monogamy. BUT we can receive a witness from the Spirit that it has been commanded for a righteous purpose, at the time of Abraham and during the 1800’s. This is my experience, I sought that witness and received it. And I will never forget it, that God cared enough to answer my question.
I agree with the previous two comments and can add my own witness that I have received about plural marriage. God’s ways are not man’s ways. Just as Nephi was asked by God to break a commandment by taking Laban’s life, we have to be willing to trust God and “counsel him not.” Sometimes He tests our complete trust in him by asking us to do something unthinkable to our limited human views.
No God is unchanging, He doesn't command some to live Polygamy and call it an abomination at others. Sorry... you don't understand the true nature of God!
Guy’s, I’m not saying it’s bad to spend most or much of your limited available time to go through several hour’s of brother Halverston’s long shows. I love a deep dive into the come follow me topics each week. But the spending it all on just one man’s insights, however wise he may be, may not be good and perhaps placing so praise on one man I’m seeing in the comments borders on priest craft or over adoration of a single simple man. Please don’t limit your time to just one man’s views. There’s many channels I listen too each week in the come follow me topics.
1:23 I also listen to several other podcasts and talks. But each individual should do what they feel benefits them the most in their particular time frame 😃
Lotta speculation on polygamy that cant be verified. Saying that’s the reason that a branch was broken off is something ive never heard. Doesn’t even make logical sense. Unless youre in the michelle stone boat.
So what you're trying to tell me is the philosophy of men mingled with scripture.
I would love to follow and listen to your commentary on the Book of Mormon on your channel but i can’t believe you have 4 hrs on this weeks bom assignment! (Part 1 and 2) on just 4 chapters! Who on earth has 4 extra hrs of time to listen to this? It’s ridiculous.
45 min a day. Not hard to find each day if you want to. Why are you complaining?
The abomination.. and whoredoms.. and filthiness.. and crimes against their wife’s and children.. this is polygamy this great wickedness of the nephites is polygamy .. for an unchangeable God this practice will always be abominable in his site.. polygamy is it a wheat or a tear.?? It cannot be both.!!
Jacob has shaken the sin of polygamy from his garment.. will we do same..??
I cannot say my eyes have seen Christ's suffering. But mine understanding hath perceived the nature of the terrible cost and pric:
I believe that Jesus did not merely die for our sins. Any mortal can be unjustly punished unto death. No, I believe that Jesus Christ suffered pain of guilt, the guilt that we owe, enough to kill him countless times without even touching the fact that he suffered all physical pain that people have suffered. Jesus suffered enough to kill him more times than there are human souls in the universe.
And as he suffered these pains, he forced his body and spirit to endure united, using power inherited by being the physical son of Heavenly Father. He did not merely once submit "thy will be done" during the atonement, he may have only said it once during that time, but every agonizing moment that he forced himself to be alive to suffer, was a "thy will be done".
The pain inflicted on him by the Romans was nothing in comparison to his atoning pain so great as to literally bleed from EVERY pore (not just poetic speech). He felt the pain of every person beaten, every holocaust victim, of every victim of rape, of every torture victim, of every person mauled by animals, of every person "drawn and quartered", of EVERY crucifixion (not just his own), and on and on to even stubbed toes and paper cuts. He even suffered the pain of separation from Heavenly Father and the Holy Ghost "my God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" because we all suffer that separation as a consequence of sin.
When the Romans stabbed through his side not long after his death, the blood that came out was already separated, like that of one long dead.
The miraculous love of Christ's atoning sacrifice was not merely that he died for us, but that for many long hours, he suffered pain beyond death, and did not give up the ghost until he could say (honestly, as he said all things): "it is finished". He suffered my infirmities and my inflicted pain, and all pain i have inflicted and all guilt i should feel for everything I've done; even THAT pain alone is enough to kill any mortal more than once (as is the case for everyone). If we do not repent and accept his redeeming grace, we must suffer in hell as spirits what we owe, and what took him a day for all, will take us for ourselves in the spirit; about one thousand years (by my understanding), for our hearts are infirm, and spirits experience things differently than mortal bodies. His resurrection and atoning sacrifice also unlocked resurrection unto true undying immortality for ALL humanity in the universe (even mortal sons of perdition; i say "mortal" because those who fell with lucifer as spirits in the war in heaven are sons of perdition that never get a flesh body of their own at any time).
AND the atoning grace of Jesus Christ's INFINITE atonement, is so great that through it we can be made one with Christ even as he is one with the father (John 17: 20-24), yea even sanctified unto eternal life to have all that the father hath; *that* is what he saves us *for*. That exaltation is only available to those who make and keep sacred covenants, just as salvation is only available to those who are baptized (except for little children, usually those under the age of 8; the exception being those who never reach accountability in spite of being over 8 years). And Jesus gave us temple's to baptise the dead and to make the covenants necessary for exaltation (for ourselves and for the dead), thus Elijah has turned the hearts of the children to the fathers, to make families able to last forever.
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Section 132 is a false revelation by Brigham and his crew and not from God through Joseph Smith. If you pay atention to that section you will find it is full of mistakes like Issac and Moses were never polygamists. God never commanded anyone to practice polygamy. Sarah commanded Abraham. Jacobs father in law tricked him into it and Joseph Smith never practiced it and denounced it many times as did Hyrum emma and lucy Smith. They denounced it to their dying day.
Whatever happened to your aim at the first of the year to keep you video’s shorter? You’re not the only content producer out there and many don’t want to put such a disparity into one person’s insights. Listen to shows when shorter. Sorry. Also, you Need to be more concise and to the point of the message you want to put out.
Personally, I think these lessons are perfect!!!❤❤❤
These lessons are long- but I feel like I’m getting a college level class rather than a primary lesson.
❤🎉So very grateful for Bro Halverson and his gift of teaching. These lessons are changing my life and the lives in it.😊😊😊
I think he does a fantastic job considering it's not even edited or trimmed down, and he can talk ad libitum about so much stuff. He doesn't even have a script. I could never do this for 2 hours and have so much stuff packed in. What amazing recall! Sometimes, I'll put him on 1.5x speed if I'm short on time.
Oh please don't tell him that. These may not be the lessons for you but they are for "SO" many of us WHO NEED THEM. I love the in-depth explanations and feelings and personal insights. I don't want to lose this!!! These lessons that are expounded by Bother Halverson stay with me as I contemplate them throughout each day and try to incorporate them into my life. I want so much for my lamp to be full when the Bridegroom calls us to the wedding. A brief synopsis of these Scriptures will never replace the heartfelt teachings of one that you can feel groan to get his message across to those he feels so deeply connected with. I pray he will always take the time for the one or the many who need to understand all the Lord has to give us. There are shorter teachings of the Scriptures online. Maybe those would fill your personal needs. I want the "Dummy Class 101". 🤭