This video was meant for all those who drooled at the G9, but went soft when seeing the price tag. Sure, in terms of specs, the G9 is clearly superior, but the Dark Matter is a more "well-rounded" (not in terms of curve!) monitor at half the price. Also, I made a number of mistakes, like...a ridiculous amount of mistakes on this video and apologize to you all. Thank you to those who called me out in a constructive way! - The Samsung CRG-9 is a HDR1000, 1000nit monitor, NOT an HDR400 with 600 nits. I honestly don't know how I effed this up, but thank you all! The CRG-9 also provides 10 bit depth up to 100hz. - All the monitors, minus the Dark Matter, use Freesync Premium Pro (the highest tier of Freesync). - Keep the constructive criticism coming!
CRG9 and Odyssey G9 have the same color bit support. Both can do 10 bit at 100 hz, but have to either drop to 8 bit higher than that or use chroma sub-sampling
Ok, you did talk about it. But the biggest focus about the G9 is the obscene performance with ghosting. Which is typically the weakest point for VA monitors. The specs here destroy not only every other VA monitor, but also most IPS and even high end TN panels including at low refresh rates. This performance is unprecedented and it is likely that it will ever get beaten as Samsung has stopped making VA and is now moving to OLED. I feel like you've completely missed the point as to why the G7 and G9 is starting to be regarded as the best gaming monitor that money can buy right now. It currently sits in top spot on Rtings too.
You are awesome Ahn! thanks so much for putting this video together - been trying to decide between these exact 4 monitors for a couple weeks! Completely blew me away to learn that someone made a video answering all my questions. Looking forward to more of your videos.
I've been gaming on the Odyssey G9 for a week now and love it. I disagree about the more curved screen being less attractive. It makes everything so much more immersive in gaming and more convenient for multitasking without having to turn my head much. This is by far the best monitor I've seen in 45 years of my life.
I didn't say it was less attractive. Said it was probably not a great choice for people doing creative work, such as photo editing trying to get straight lines in a landscape shot in premiere or something
I saw the samsung monitor just after i bought an asus pg348q something. Not a bad monitor but since all my other monitors are samsung curved, i m gonna buy this one cuz i i really liked it plus i expected more from a €1300 monitor, its not that its bad but for that price, i expected more
There is so much I love about this review; this is how reviews should be done. You cover a TON of stuff but you're so succinct which makes it so easy to consume and digest all the information you're giving us. The ongoing compare and contrast of the 4 big offerings in this space make it not only interesting but easy to position each option against whatever criteria viewers are bringing with them when they watch the review. Finally, you contextualise the info so it's not just numbers but give the numbers context e.g. 6:36 "10 bit colour... but who needs 10 bit colour?". This allows us to properly judge the value proposition of each product not by comparing numbers but the value it can bring to a consumer based on their use scenario. Seriously dude I watched this on my oculus and had to get onto the PC to express how impressed I was with this review. New sub. New fan. Keep going.
....this is seriously the kindest thing anyone has commented!! Really REALLY appreciate it! Haha made a lot of mistakes on this one, so all the more, thank you for your kind words!!!
4:32 That color banding one the left side of the screen is why you need 10 bit color. 10 bit color isn't just for photo editors, it drastically reduces banding. Also, 400 nits is probably all you need for productivity, but for gaming/movies its definitely not enough. Sure a full screen of 1000 nits will blow your retinas out, but with HDR peak brightness is used sparingly to add highlight detail so it doesn't blind you, just improves picture quality. Well, assuming there are enough local dimming zones to support it, otherwise it can just end up washing out the entire image.
what he really didn't mention is the AOC is by far the best bang for buck though, the damn thing comes with a 1 year accidental damage warranty and 3 year dead pixel warranty. Crazy part is they will ship a new monitor to you while they wait for the old one.
So I did read about the incredible warranty on the AOC, but when I took into consideration the possible backlight bleed issue + worse color accuracy + general positive experience with monitors never really dying on me, I think I'd still prefer the Dark Matter. Should have mentioned it though, but that's the problem with trying to do too much with a video...I missed a lot of things... :-( my bad!
@@Ahnestly no problem coming from a TN panel I have not issues with the backlight bleed on the AOC. The colors are also miles better than what i had, maybe thats why i love it so much lol
I just bought the G9 for 999, super excited to get it and am glad I waited a year for price to drop and for all of the issues with initial release to be fixed
Considering your subscriber count, im impressed at your quality. I like the fact that you show clips of what you are talking about to really make new people understand. And you nailed the most important thing imo, you have text on screen when comparing alot of numbers on different screens. It really helps the viewer to keep the modells and numbers apart, minimizing confusion. Alot of channels forget that and that makes it alot harder to follow. Keep up the good work!
*terminator voice* get to the choppah! lol hey man, not sure where you're from, but start by flipping products - buy low, sell high! That's how I got all my stuff!
Great review! I just ordered the CRG9 on sale for $899! Can’t wait. I was watching your review and was bummed at the lower nits and HDR but then saw your corrected comment and now I’m even more excited haha. Keep up the good work
Haha I appreciate the kind words and for understanding what I'm trying to do here. If money was limitless, I would LOVE to keep trying different things...le sigh...one day! one day!
@ 1:58 you had to lean forward to look at the monitor because of the less curve. it would make more sense to have the 1000r curve on a monitor this size
People don't get it. They don't realize the flat screen has distorted their brains perception of what should "look right". After using a highly curved monitor for a while, the flat ones look completely distorted, as they should. Your brain has to recalibrate to the correct angle after starring at the distorted plane of a flat monitor for years. "Normal" (curved) looks "distorted" to people because their brains have been trained to see it wrong for so long.
Almost all Freesync monitors are supported by NVidia GPUs now btw, they rolled that update sometime between the release of the GTX1000 series and RTX2000 series cards iirc. This Freesync monitor supporting G-sync isn't a special feature
for curvature ratings, they assume the monitor with the given curve is making a full circle. the "R" stands for "radius" and the number is the length of the radius, in millimeters, of that circle. So a 1000R curve means the curve forms a circle with a radius of 1000mm, or 1 meter.
That's actually a lot of really useful information. The G-Sync info on this monitor and the links to fix flickering. The G9 was recalled because of issues.
I've been really impressed with your in-depth examinations and unabashed statements in each review. I initially came to your channel after seeing the chair giveaway, but was pleasantly greeted with solid content across each video I've viewed so far. Even with some specs errors in mind (which you are quick to correct), it is so refreshing to view no-nonsense reviews for once. The product comparisons and focus on which audience is better suited for something is really helpful. I didn't even know Monoprice made premium monitors, and just by name, I might have discounted them before seeing this video. I don't need most of the bells and whistles in Samsung's G9, so this could quite likely work very well for my workstation once I am in a larger space. Speaking of your sentiment about curves being bad for creators, I think it's more of a problem for video editors rather than visual designers. Actually, I think having a more 'immersive' curve could improve productivity and flow by contributing to a more inclusive and engaging ambience. Perhaps you might think of it like playing a horror game on a flat monitor vs wearing a VR HMD? That said, I agree that it's probably better to have a clean overview of a flat plane for competitive gaming. The modest curve seems like a good compromise to me overall. With regards to video presentation, I think the monologue space (like shown in 4:25 to 4:31) is a bit dimly-lit. As such, it's a tad jarring revolving from that to lighter, or otherwise comparatively bright scenes and B-roll. Slight adjustments with gamma/exposure, or perhaps adding a soft warm light or two could balance this really well and improve visual flow overall. Maybe some cheap smart bulbs are the answer? You could be set for under $20 easily. In any case, hopefully my thoughts will be of benefit to you and your channel. I'm looking forward to seeing what you cover next!
Hey this was really well thought out and well presented. Thank you for that. Even the criticism, wow, that was...amazing! I tried brightening up the background a bit in my current video, but I'm never happy with my set and appreciate the input. I just don't have a ton of space, so would love to add some lights in the back, but they take up more space than I have to give. Been eyeing some wall mounted stuff...
@@Ahnestly You are very welcome. As mentioned before, LED RGB smart bulbs or strips could be a very versatile tool in helping with this. Most bulbs allow you to change not only the hue, but color temperature in Kelvin (so you can adjust for warmth/coolness as you need). I've used lights from Xiaomi (Yeelight), Reafoo, and Nueve&Five. Xiaomis were the most consistent, but Reafoos were more color-accurate. Govee has a very promising 2-pack of 10W/1000lm bulbs for $16 on Amazon right now, which are cheaper and brighter than my lights. Their RGB 'Dreamcolor' strips are definitely worth looking at too, since you can change individual LED segments on them (unlike most strips). Any products like these in some small low-cost light sockets would be very affordable and have minimal impact to your available space. There's no need for any big lamps if you just want to increase the ambient lighting in your scenes. I use my variety of lights every day, and they have proven to be quite impactful and convenient. Give it a shot!
I've been looking at this monitor for a while, im planning to build a new pc soon and upgrading my 1080ti to the new 30 series cards, I have the acer predator x34 and im extremely excited for when this monitor finally gets finalized and back on the market with no problems. I have not seen a better review then yours dude. Extremely informative and I loved it. I'm definitely subscribing. :)
Actually the best 49"inch monitor is....dun da da! The Samsung CRG9. Comparable to the Monoprice, but has better sustained brightness than both the Odyssey G9 and Monoprice Dark Matter 49.
Great video dude! This is my first video of yours (you show up on the first page of google when you search for the Odyssey G9), Ended up going with the CRG9 because you made me realize how little the curvature really meant. Subbed!
Great video. I will tell you though the 1000R is really nice. I really hope more monitors go toward this. Bring the sides closer to you really adds a lot. It requires far less head turning.
@@Ahnestly To be honest many people will try to tell you that a curve screws with their productivity or shot for video editing. I really think of lot of that is blown way out of proportion of hows the curve on a monitor works. It doesn't skew anything, not your aiming in games, not how you see a photo, or video. Not to mention our eyes self correct for most things, so much it makes little sense to me. Also the color calibration is actually really good right out the box for the G9.
I mean, it does ruin things a bit. Like if I was editing a photo, I’d much rather be on a non curved monitor simply because the aspect ratio and the preview of the photo in full screen mode will look more or less similar to what I see in print or uploaded to IG or whatever. If you stretch that at 32:9 and then curve it to compensate, it’s just hard to understand what the finished product would look like. Now one might say well then just make the image smaller and don’t full screen it...but then what’s the point of buying a $2k 49” monitor? Me personally, I’m not a serious editor, but I could see that being a serious issue for creators. I’m curious to know how pro gamers feel about curves though
@@Ahnestly Yes, but that's still stretching an image. A really different matter altogether. Just edit in the proper aspect and use the rest of the monitor for something else. It really doesn't affect gaming or editing of any sort unless you are trying to stretch things that shouldn't be stretched, which goes for gaming as well. Surprisingly, the support for 32x9 is not actually that bad. It's still about a 900k pixels short of 4k, if you really want to count it that way. I have had a couple of games where I needed a fov fix. The curve actually has more benefit for gaming. Having your outside peripheral vision closer means less head turning, easier to take in the whole screen, and really does feel more immersive.
Thank you for this awesome review. I will look into this Monitor. It really is a *Beast of a Monitor. You sir have a new subscriber. Keep up the great work.
Awesome review! I like all your points everything was valid but I'm going to hold out for the refreshed batch of G9s. With the new GPUs coming I think we'll get all the performance out of it for a few years and it seems bit more future proofed with that refresh rate.
dont assume 1000R or 1800R "doesnt mean anything to us". dont project yourself onto the audience 1000 millimeter radius curve, 1800 mm radius curve. makes perfect sense. 1000 mm is 1 meter. 1 meter is basically 1 yard, or 3 feet in "freedom units" so 1000R would be a 3 foot radius, 1800R would be about 7 foot. this is very easy to understand for every country on earth, spare USA, Myanmar and Lybia, the only 3 countries on the planet not using metric.
Except EVERYTHING is still out of stock. AOC is going for way more than MSRP at 1500 bucks. Gotta pay big bucks if you want anything. Ill just keep holding off till everything is fair again
And here I am laughing because of a mobile phone deal in Australia at a store called Harvey norman.... I get to save $800 dollars off the odessey g9. I'm getting it brand new delivered next week and it cost me cheaper than the previous crg9 model.... Oh boy am I lucky.
It's was a $700 gift card for getting a 2 year mobile plan with the same company for the same price I was already on and paying. And I said to the salesman I'll buy it right now if I can get $100 off... So $800 saved. Also, this store was selling it at the cheapest price available too.
Bro!!!.. Thannnnnnnk you so much.. You solve my 3 week problem in 11 mins. I like to compare the monitors too.. But you just did such a great job with it.
i used to game on 24 inch 1440p 144hz monitors. I bought the Darkmatter 49 because well, i had to buy a 6900XT at higher than MSRP, so i went with the darkmatter over the G9. and i bought the darkmatter at a sale so 700 USD. Best monitor purchase ive ever done for something comparable to a monitor costing twice as much, its worth its price tag.
I trust Samsung more than the Monoprice name. Not saying the G9's don't have their issues but if I'm spending $900+ on a monitor I'm going to go with a brand name with long term reliability. Plus the 1000R is suppose to match the human eye field-of-view and reduces eye strain because it better suits your peripheral vision when your fixation point being center of the screen in games the 1000R curve gets the rest of the screen into your peripheral view so you see it but not necessarily need to turn your head/neck like you would for a 1800R curvature. This does look like a good monitor feature wise though and the price is good. I just think I would go with the Samsung.
10 bit color is for HDR. You need 10 bit per channel in order to avoid banding when having a HDR picture. Take a look at standard video on blu-ray and you will often see banding even when using standard SDR-picture. So HDR is meaningless without 10 bit (or more) per channel.
@@Ahnestly No problem man, a buddy of mine has the crg9 so that's how I remembered lol. Btw, why compare this monitor to the Odyssey G9? Don't get me wrong, the video is really good, I was just expecting something more out of the video than a cheaper alternative to the 32:9 1440p monitor high refresh spec. I think if you would've compared the AOC vs this it would've made for a more interesting video. Anyways, thank you and stay safe!
Funny thing is I got the odessey g9 brand new for the same price as the crg9 brand new.... All it took was signing a new mobile plan and I got a $700 gift card for the store.
This guy is very Very good at reviews very detailed very informative a lot of research and time went into this video I appreciate that ... I currently have the Alienware 34 inch WQHD curved AW34 facelit I believe Anyways you have a new subscriber for sure great review bruh 👌
Samsung changed my monitor, and now I'm very pleased with it! The image is great. The color saturation is amazing. In the game eFootball PES 2020, I had to turn off vsync because the image was lagging.It is imperative to use the eye saver mode, and the contrast of 20, then the eyes will not hurt. You can sit behind of the screen for 24 hours without problems!
This monitor is more comparable to the CRG9 than the G9. Specs are similar. Freesync, 1800R curvature, same DQHD 1440p resolution, same 120Hz panel, But it doesn't even have the 600 nits, and 1000nits peak of both the CRG9 and G9.
So it could be that Samsung doesn't release which panel they use on which monitor, but the Dark Matter tells you which Samsung panel it's using and when I ran a search, I couldn't find which monitors used the same panel.
And agreed, which is why I put all 3 in there. The title is a bit clickbaity, but my intention was to give people who drooled over the G9, but gagged at the price tag and give them a slightly more practical option!
Great review! I pre-ordered the G9 and my order was canceled due to the manufacturing issues. I have yet to see any update from Samsung on when it will be rereleased. The lack of communication is really disappointing to me, and honestly, enough for me to look at different monitors. I get it, stuff can happen in the manufacturing process and I am not upset about that - it’s the sheer disregard to communicating with their customers. I REALLY appreciate you @Ahnestly for taking the time to research and make this video. As the other comments have said, great content, great presentation, great B-Roll (yes, I see you got some really detailed feedback on this, but as an average viewer, I couldn’t tell), and great quality production. I have subscribed to all notifications from you. Keep up the great work!
Hey I really appreciate the kind words and it's a reminder that there are youtubers that can cater to all kinds of audiences! I did get several things wrong, but appreciate the kindness of giving me some room to screw up! Thank you for the support and again, seriously thank you for the kind words!
I ordered the samsung note 20 5g. Phone says delivered. Haven't got it... tried contacting support. No one answering phones, no one replying to my emails, online support is mainly as tech support. Samsung is really disapointing me in customer support
Already received the G9. No flickering issues with Gsync. The curve helps so much with viewing. Maybe it gets buggy when using a multi monitor setup or when switching between PIP mode but that can be fixed in a driver update. I'm not sure about this dark matter monitor but it looks like a rebrand of the samsung panel that is sold to many of these companies.
If you want everything, the Samsung CRG9 is the best for the price (high as it is). But if you don't care about HDR, this Monoprice does seem like crazy good bang for the buck. I set my monitor with 3 modes (which you can assign to three buttons near the menu button) so I can quickly switch between Design Work, Gaming, and HDR. That way I can make full use of the 10-bit or the HDR or the Freesync.
Great video! It is pleasant to listen to you. What I would also appreciate - viewing angles, wall mount possible? Any speakers? And you also made me realise one thing and I felt terribly stupid. I always thought displays can display any bit colour depth, as long as the footage has it. But now, thanks to you I realised, that even though I am shooting 10bit codec, I can’t actually see the difference :) I can only use it for heavier colour grade. Wow....hahaha...thank you
Viewing angles are not bad, but being curved, you shouldn't reall look at it at any angle other than straight. Wall mount is possible and speakers suck!
Ayyy audioengine a2+ and topping d50s crew, I also have the a50 and p50, sound epic! Also ordered the g9, will arrive in about a month lol Just wanted to see other 49 inchers, cool video!
The 1000R doesn't warp lines in productivity at all - it is a misnomer - for a user who is dead centre everything is spot on. Whilst the Samsung C49RG90 does have a curve of 1800R, it's practically identical to the G9 in terms of spec barring 240hz and Freesync Premium. The C49RG90 is rated HDR1000 (1000nits peak brightness), Freesync 2, 120hz, QLED and G-sync compatible. I know this because I own both C49RG90 and G9. I understand you making a review about the monitor you have but why attempt comparisons without having the other monitors to hand, especially since your information is incorrect regarding the missing panels yet your sources are correct. Lines are straight for the user with G9 and the C49RG90 is a 1000nit monitor.
So recommend you checking out the pinned comment where I clarify the mistakes. As for comparisons, youtubers are here to add value and sometimes, there’s more value in talking about a lot of products than just one, and I don’t think not having the product should limit you....otherwise, only channels with hundreds of thousands of subs with the budget could do those videos. I admit I made a lot of mistakes in this one but I do adrdress and learn from them. the topic of curved displays and whether they’re good for photo editing is still a hot debate, which is why I included it as a warning
So even with 1800r, I've found I get thrown off with things when it comes to editing, especially when theres already distortion from using ultra wide lenses. I don't think I could use the 1000r for that stuff. I would love it for gaming though...since I'm not a pro, I couldnt care less about the curve! Lol
1000r curvature forms a circle with radius 1m (1000mm), which also corresponds to the optimal (max) viewing distance, 1m, based on the natural curvature of the human eye. 1800r then means the optimal max viewing distance is 1.8m (less of a curvature), which is significantly farther. for gaming, if you want the best immersion, then you want the curvature that matches your viewing distance.
Bigger color gamut does not equal better color accuracy. Actually it can equal worse color accuracy if you don't color manage properly or run non-color managed applications (it will look more vivid = over saturated, but not correct). Even worse, if you have a big color gamut like Adobe RGB but only 8 bit you will get more banding in gradients, since the outmost colors are furrther out in the gamut, so the "steps" between each color will be greater. For most cases around 100% sRGB will get you the most natural (as intended) colors.
Hello, what monitor would you suggest it's either the Samsung and or Monoprice, I will be using it for day trading/stock trading. Thank you for your input.
In my opinion the G9 is for gaming. When it comes to looking at pictures it will be distorted. if you have the money to buy a g9 you probably have a extra flat screen monitor laying around to add to your set up.
Makes sense. If you're a creator though, you need more than just a flat monitor. 10 bit color, color accuracy, hdr1000, etc are all things that real creators can benefit from but are expensive features!
I have a Samsung C49RG90, it's freaking amazing! It overclocks easily to 144Hz, but means little for now as it's hard to drive games that fast. One the greatest things about this monitor is the brightness. It is SUPER BRIGHT!!! It's amazing!! I love it. Yes it had too few lighting zones but in games in movies you don't really notice this at all like you do when you have a black screen with a little test or mouse pointer . It's also much less than $1200 now. I game at max brightness it's amazing. It is so cool to have to squint because a sunrise or something is so bright on the screen. Watching movies is so cool with a screen capable of such high brightness. I have not used the Monoprice super ultra wide but it's not better than the samsung super ultrawides. Sorry it's just not
@@Kakuz98 Yeah the CRG9 has the same HDR1000 certification, also the same amount of local dimming zones of like 10-15 zones which is not good but better than nothing I guess.
I had one and was unable to mitigate the flickering and screen blanking, so it went back to Monoprice. Otherwise it did have great colors and nearly no glow/backlight bleed. I recommend this monitor if you have a 2080 Ti and do not care about HDR gaming during this next console generation.
@@Ahnestly Flickering and screen blanking during game play in Fallen Order and AC Origins. 2070 Super, game settings tuned for average framerates 60-70. It would blank every time I experienced a stutter, so open world games with cell loading were basically unplayable. Games which run at higher framerates like Doom and Destiny 2 were fine.
@@Ahnestly If you have an interest in using your platform to help raise awareness about VA panel issues with variable refresh rate, you could make a general video about it. VA as a technology has brightness tied to voltage, and swings in refresh rate cause an increase in voltage which results in the flicker on cheap scalers. In my own research I have found that only G-sync official VA panels are legitimately flicker free. There's definitely a knowledge gap and you could do a lot of good for the community.
I have a CHG90 (the 1080p version) and am looking at upping my resolution. G9 is too curved. This video was very helpful to compare other models. I didn't even know the Dark Matter existed. Now I'm thinking about it.
The curvature would be nice for productivity and immersive games or someone who doesn't care about being a pro twitch gamer. Personally I think I'd enjoy it but can't justify it costing as much as a high end gpu
@@Ahnestly I purely game but for me the curve is a deal break because of the desk space it uses. It takes away space in front of the monitor and comes off the fall so much you have to consider how close yo sit to the wall
These types of monitors are defently really cool but i keep waiting for a monitor of this spec but 2160 height, that would have been going away from my 2-3 monitor setup.
Ever think about picking up the LG CX? It's a 48" OLED TV that is a really solid monitor replacement if you have the space (both desk space and distance between you and the screen)
Hey so I used a curve for most of my Editing too! I had just read a lot of mixed opinions about the curve and what it does to straight lines for photographers who want really precise straight lines. For what I do, I’ve had no issue. Some people say the g9 with its super aggressive curve is actually the best to edit stuff on bc your eye is equidistant to all parts of the screen, but I’ve also heard people give different opinions about that.
@@Ahnestly Any professional editing tool has the ability to draw perfectly horizontal or vertical guides as well as grids to align things correctly. I never used a flat monitor to achieve this, I used tools. These days I write code, so I don't think the curve will mean much to me.
This resolution is just about as demanding as 4k would be...so the current gen wouldn't be able to hit the max refresh rate at the highest graphic settings. Bring it to medium/low and you'll def be closer!
Gamers beware: Such big monitors will offer no advantage to your gaming experience for first person shooters or driving games. The FoV will be terrible. Your neck will hurt just looking from side to side (e.g. look at health globe to the left, then mana globe to the right, minimap in top right etc).
CRG9 has HDR1000, not 400. When comparing the CRG9 to the DM49 monitor, the CRG9 offers more features for less. One USB port compared to four on the CRG9? MonoPrice specializes in generic brands which is exactly what this is as a product.
I've been looking at the Samsung Odyssey G9 for a while now but was on the fence about it, and seeing this review was a step back to look at other options! Keep up the great content!
@ahnestly, Ok, I get it hole is small, but let's try using slot or radius is small :) Regardless, excellent review. I am debating between Odssey vs AOC vs Monoprice. Primary usage is for work productivity, no gaming. the requirement is 49ish, 5k, curved, long-lasting. Any advice
For work productivity, I don't think you can go wrong with any of these choices. You may want to factor in how much you'll need to read, because if you'll be spending a lot of time reading, the more drastic curve on the odyssey might be for you
Those are the Lian Li Strimer Plus cables. Maybe I should do a walkthrough of my pc...one of these weeks when I'm worn out, I'll do that as an easy one!
For someone who didn't use the G9 for creative work, what you said is 100% wrong. Since owning this monitor my creative work has jumped up in ease by a lot. You can do straight lines just fine. The curve helps a lot with your eye as well.
I appreciate the feedback, but while I didn't own the G9, I did my research and a lot of people dislike curved monitors for creative work as it did mess with their lines. Based on your username, you use it for photos and video, but have you considered creatives who use CAD? Or use their monitors for architecture work? Just because you use it and it's fine for you doesn't always mean it's fine for others.
@@Ahnestly You got a valid point there I didn't think about that other side of creative work like CAD users or architecture. Then you need to specify that. The majority of people that think creative work they think photo and video work which includes after effects. Because as for what I have seen this monitor works wonders for that. Just a helpful tip. 😊
Hey! I break down my setup here with links in the Description - although, I've made quite a few changes since! ua-cam.com/video/HDBJZ58BXZc/v-deo.html Thanks for the kind words and hope it helps you! Let me know if there's anything I can help answer!
Hey what stand did you use for the top two monitors? I plan on having a similar setup. I currently have 3 16:9 monitors mounted side by side, but I want to get an ultrawide and have two up top
Just like the G9 does the PBP work from one pc? Essentially two 27 inch with no bezel from the same computer while being plugged into two separate ports?
@Ahnestly How did you get the two monitors above the 49" monitor? I'm looking to do a similar setup, but struggling to find a monitor mount to meet my needs.
It looks nice but honestly I have been considering 4k. The only problem is the size of all the 4k high refresh monitors at the moment. Why the hell are they all 27 instead of 34. I just want a 34 inch 4k 100+hz screen but it seems to not exist yet. You would think it would be more expensive for the 27 inch over the 34 4k since the 27 needs a higher pixel density. I would be willing to drop a good amount on one but a 27 is just too small after getting used to larger monitors.
Totalllyyy agree with this sentiment, but I think the 34" wouldn't allow for 4k, since the width is too wide. I'd love to get my hands on like a 32" or whatever the size would have to be that's larger than 27" 4k 144hz monitor. That would be saweetttt
Man I've gotten this question a lot. I think I'll make a rig overview video for this week! Here are links to both (these are affiliate links - if you decide to pick them up, please use them as I get a tinyyyy kickback for any purchase made through them!) 24-pin geni.us/BKgBGJ 8-pin geni.us/b6dlt
This video was meant for all those who drooled at the G9, but went soft when seeing the price tag. Sure, in terms of specs, the G9 is clearly superior, but the Dark Matter is a more "well-rounded" (not in terms of curve!) monitor at half the price.
Also, I made a number of mistakes, like...a ridiculous amount of mistakes on this video and apologize to you all. Thank you to those who called me out in a constructive way!
- The Samsung CRG-9 is a HDR1000, 1000nit monitor, NOT an HDR400 with 600 nits. I honestly don't know how I effed this up, but thank you all! The CRG-9 also provides 10 bit depth up to 100hz.
- All the monitors, minus the Dark Matter, use Freesync Premium Pro (the highest tier of Freesync).
- Keep the constructive criticism coming!
CRG9 and Odyssey G9 have the same color bit support.
Both can do 10 bit at 100 hz, but have to either drop to 8 bit higher than that or use chroma sub-sampling
@@xArch0n Damn I just read reviews of what it ran at 120hz, which is where I think I made the mistake. Appreciate the correction!
Ok, you did talk about it. But the biggest focus about the G9 is the obscene performance with ghosting. Which is typically the weakest point for VA monitors. The specs here destroy not only every other VA monitor, but also most IPS and even high end TN panels including at low refresh rates. This performance is unprecedented and it is likely that it will ever get beaten as Samsung has stopped making VA and is now moving to OLED.
I feel like you've completely missed the point as to why the G7 and G9 is starting to be regarded as the best gaming monitor that money can buy right now. It currently sits in top spot on Rtings too.
@@xArch0n G9 can do 10 bit 240Hz.
You are awesome Ahn! thanks so much for putting this video together - been trying to decide between these exact 4 monitors for a couple weeks! Completely blew me away to learn that someone made a video answering all my questions. Looking forward to more of your videos.
I've been gaming on the Odyssey G9 for a week now and love it. I disagree about the more curved screen being less attractive. It makes everything so much more immersive in gaming and more convenient for multitasking without having to turn my head much. This is by far the best monitor I've seen in 45 years of my life.
I didn't say it was less attractive. Said it was probably not a great choice for people doing creative work, such as photo editing trying to get straight lines in a landscape shot in premiere or something
Chris Tran if the issues are not there, I would grab the g7 today (g9 is too big for my setup - not to mention my wife would kill me)
@@Cons2911 well atleast ya would die happy then, the G9 is amazing
Jesper Andersen I’m sure it is. Just a tad too big if ever i need to take it home (out of country). I’m sure its even more impressive to see in person
I saw the samsung monitor just after i bought an asus pg348q something.
Not a bad monitor but since all my other monitors are samsung curved, i m gonna buy this one cuz i i really liked it plus i expected more from a €1300 monitor, its not that its bad but for that price, i expected more
I appreciate the effort put into that first B roll joke. Amazing
Thank you for noticing!!! :D that was a lot of fun to make and took a surprising amount of time
There is so much I love about this review; this is how reviews should be done. You cover a TON of stuff but you're so succinct which makes it so easy to consume and digest all the information you're giving us. The ongoing compare and contrast of the 4 big offerings in this space make it not only interesting but easy to position each option against whatever criteria viewers are bringing with them when they watch the review. Finally, you contextualise the info so it's not just numbers but give the numbers context e.g. 6:36 "10 bit colour... but who needs 10 bit colour?". This allows us to properly judge the value proposition of each product not by comparing numbers but the value it can bring to a consumer based on their use scenario. Seriously dude I watched this on my oculus and had to get onto the PC to express how impressed I was with this review. New sub. New fan. Keep going.
....this is seriously the kindest thing anyone has commented!! Really REALLY appreciate it! Haha made a lot of mistakes on this one, so all the more, thank you for your kind words!!!
@ 9:35, the best description of cable management I've ever heard. Well done.
Lolll thank you!
4:32 That color banding one the left side of the screen is why you need 10 bit color. 10 bit color isn't just for photo editors, it drastically reduces banding.
Also, 400 nits is probably all you need for productivity, but for gaming/movies its definitely not enough. Sure a full screen of 1000 nits will blow your retinas out, but with HDR peak brightness is used sparingly to add highlight detail so it doesn't blind you, just improves picture quality. Well, assuming there are enough local dimming zones to support it, otherwise it can just end up washing out the entire image.
Makes sense!
Bro why didnt you make a 32:9 video so that I can watch it on my G9 :D as intended
LOL this guy...
what he really didn't mention is the AOC is by far the best bang for buck though, the damn thing comes with a 1 year accidental damage warranty and 3 year dead pixel warranty. Crazy part is they will ship a new monitor to you while they wait for the old one.
So I did read about the incredible warranty on the AOC, but when I took into consideration the possible backlight bleed issue + worse color accuracy + general positive experience with monitors never really dying on me, I think I'd still prefer the Dark Matter. Should have mentioned it though, but that's the problem with trying to do too much with a video...I missed a lot of things... :-( my bad!
@@Ahnestly no problem coming from a TN panel I have not issues with the backlight bleed on the AOC. The colors are also miles better than what i had, maybe thats why i love it so much lol
I just bought the G9 for 999, super excited to get it and am glad I waited a year for price to drop and for all of the issues with initial release to be fixed
Nice!!
Considering your subscriber count, im impressed at your quality. I like the fact that you show clips of what you are talking about to really make new people understand. And you nailed the most important thing imo, you have text on screen when comparing alot of numbers on different screens. It really helps the viewer to keep the modells and numbers apart, minimizing confusion. Alot of channels forget that and that makes it alot harder to follow. Keep up the good work!
I appreciate that!! Seriously thank you for the kind words! Also, love the name lolol
*terminator voice* I need your chair, your earphones, your speakers, your lightning setup... oh and your wall
*terminator voice* get to the choppah! lol hey man, not sure where you're from, but start by flipping products - buy low, sell high! That's how I got all my stuff!
The 1000R curve is much more natural in my view - gaming experience with it is awesome ....
Great review! I just ordered the CRG9 on sale for $899! Can’t wait. I was watching your review and was bummed at the lower nits and HDR but then saw your corrected comment and now I’m even more excited haha. Keep up the good work
Nice nice!!!
i found the same one used for $510!!!. that is def a cop
I love the way you are an added value and not a copy/paste of others, subscribed!
Keep up.the good work!
Haha I appreciate the kind words and for understanding what I'm trying to do here. If money was limitless, I would LOVE to keep trying different things...le sigh...one day! one day!
@ 1:58 you had to lean forward to look at the monitor because of the less curve. it would make more sense to have the 1000r curve on a monitor this size
People don't get it.
They don't realize the flat screen has distorted their brains perception of what should "look right".
After using a highly curved monitor for a while, the flat ones look completely distorted, as they should.
Your brain has to recalibrate to the correct angle after starring at the distorted plane of a flat monitor for years.
"Normal" (curved) looks "distorted" to people because their brains have been trained to see it wrong for so long.
Almost all Freesync monitors are supported by NVidia GPUs now btw, they rolled that update sometime between the release of the GTX1000 series and RTX2000 series cards iirc. This Freesync monitor supporting G-sync isn't a special feature
Appreciate that lesson!
This monitor is very tempting once I upgrade to the Rtx 3080. 😊
Did u get it in time?
@@IMSimplySuperior I wanna get this monitor but idk if it’s worth it!
for curvature ratings, they assume the monitor with the given curve is making a full circle. the "R" stands for "radius" and the number is the length of the radius, in millimeters, of that circle.
So a 1000R curve means the curve forms a circle with a radius of 1000mm, or 1 meter.
great explanation! I meant that for a lot of folks, the R may not make a ton of sense, so might be helpful to show visually what it looks like
That's actually a lot of really useful information. The G-Sync info on this monitor and the links to fix flickering. The G9 was recalled because of issues.
Yeah that's wild! I didn't know it got recalled already!
I was returned my coz of it... Not just flickering, there is aaaalot of problems with G9.
I've been really impressed with your in-depth examinations and unabashed statements in each review. I initially came to your channel after seeing the chair giveaway, but was pleasantly greeted with solid content across each video I've viewed so far. Even with some specs errors in mind (which you are quick to correct), it is so refreshing to view no-nonsense reviews for once. The product comparisons and focus on which audience is better suited for something is really helpful. I didn't even know Monoprice made premium monitors, and just by name, I might have discounted them before seeing this video. I don't need most of the bells and whistles in Samsung's G9, so this could quite likely work very well for my workstation once I am in a larger space.
Speaking of your sentiment about curves being bad for creators, I think it's more of a problem for video editors rather than visual designers. Actually, I think having a more 'immersive' curve could improve productivity and flow by contributing to a more inclusive and engaging ambience. Perhaps you might think of it like playing a horror game on a flat monitor vs wearing a VR HMD? That said, I agree that it's probably better to have a clean overview of a flat plane for competitive gaming. The modest curve seems like a good compromise to me overall.
With regards to video presentation, I think the monologue space (like shown in 4:25 to 4:31) is a bit dimly-lit. As such, it's a tad jarring revolving from that to lighter, or otherwise comparatively bright scenes and B-roll. Slight adjustments with gamma/exposure, or perhaps adding a soft warm light or two could balance this really well and improve visual flow overall. Maybe some cheap smart bulbs are the answer? You could be set for under $20 easily. In any case, hopefully my thoughts will be of benefit to you and your channel. I'm looking forward to seeing what you cover next!
Hey this was really well thought out and well presented. Thank you for that. Even the criticism, wow, that was...amazing! I tried brightening up the background a bit in my current video, but I'm never happy with my set and appreciate the input. I just don't have a ton of space, so would love to add some lights in the back, but they take up more space than I have to give. Been eyeing some wall mounted stuff...
@@Ahnestly You are very welcome. As mentioned before, LED RGB smart bulbs or strips could be a very versatile tool in helping with this. Most bulbs allow you to change not only the hue, but color temperature in Kelvin (so you can adjust for warmth/coolness as you need). I've used lights from Xiaomi (Yeelight), Reafoo, and Nueve&Five. Xiaomis were the most consistent, but Reafoos were more color-accurate. Govee has a very promising 2-pack of 10W/1000lm bulbs for $16 on Amazon right now, which are cheaper and brighter than my lights. Their RGB 'Dreamcolor' strips are definitely worth looking at too, since you can change individual LED segments on them (unlike most strips).
Any products like these in some small low-cost light sockets would be very affordable and have minimal impact to your available space. There's no need for any big lamps if you just want to increase the ambient lighting in your scenes. I use my variety of lights every day, and they have proven to be quite impactful and convenient. Give it a shot!
I've been looking at this monitor for a while, im planning to build a new pc soon and upgrading my 1080ti to the new 30 series cards, I have the acer predator x34 and im extremely excited for when this monitor finally gets finalized and back on the market with no problems. I have not seen a better review then yours dude. Extremely informative and I loved it. I'm definitely subscribing. :)
Whattt I appreciate that!!! Thank you so much for the kind words and thanks for the sub!!!
FYI this monitor uses the Samsung CRG9 panel. Exactly the same. Just ordered in Black Friday sale for £583!
Wow great price!!!
I thought so too.
Actually the best 49"inch monitor is....dun da da! The Samsung CRG9. Comparable to the Monoprice, but has better sustained brightness than both the Odyssey G9 and Monoprice Dark Matter 49.
It has 4ms where the g9 has 1 ms which would be better for gaming. Or is there hardly a difference?
Great video dude! This is my first video of yours (you show up on the first page of google when you search for the Odyssey G9), Ended up going with the CRG9 because you made me realize how little the curvature really meant. Subbed!
Interesting...how do I show up? That's pretty cool! And thank you so much for the kind words and sub!!
@@Ahnestly on my results you were the top of the videos (above Linus lol)
@@Ahnestly not video search, just search for the monitor
oooo baby! Lol thanks for letting me know!
Great video. I will tell you though the 1000R is really nice. I really hope more monitors go toward this. Bring the sides closer to you really adds a lot. It requires far less head turning.
Oh if I wanted a 49" monitor for just world building gaming and productivity, I would take the 1000r curve all day!
@@Ahnestly To be honest many people will try to tell you that a curve screws with their productivity or shot for video editing. I really think of lot of that is blown way out of proportion of hows the curve on a monitor works. It doesn't skew anything, not your aiming in games, not how you see a photo, or video. Not to mention our eyes self correct for most things, so much it makes little sense to me.
Also the color calibration is actually really good right out the box for the G9.
I mean, it does ruin things a bit. Like if I was editing a photo, I’d much rather be on a non curved monitor simply because the aspect ratio and the preview of the photo in full screen mode will look more or less similar to what I see in print or uploaded to IG or whatever. If you stretch that at 32:9 and then curve it to compensate, it’s just hard to understand what the finished product would look like. Now one might say well then just make the image smaller and don’t full screen it...but then what’s the point of buying a $2k 49” monitor? Me personally, I’m not a serious editor, but I could see that being a serious issue for creators. I’m curious to know how pro gamers feel about curves though
@@Ahnestly Yes, but that's still stretching an image. A really different matter altogether. Just edit in the proper aspect and use the rest of the monitor for something else.
It really doesn't affect gaming or editing of any sort unless you are trying to stretch things that shouldn't be stretched, which goes for gaming as well.
Surprisingly, the support for 32x9 is not actually that bad. It's still about a 900k pixels short of 4k, if you really want to count it that way. I have had a couple of games where I needed a fov fix.
The curve actually has more benefit for gaming. Having your outside peripheral vision closer means less head turning, easier to take in the whole screen, and really does feel more immersive.
Thank you for this awesome review. I will look into this Monitor. It really is a *Beast of a Monitor.
You sir have a new subscriber. Keep up the great work.
Thank you for the support!!!
It's still an Awesome Monitor. Plus I'm enjoying reading all of the comments down below.
Awesome review! I like all your points everything was valid but I'm going to hold out for the refreshed batch of G9s. With the new GPUs coming I think we'll get all the performance out of it for a few years and it seems bit more future proofed with that refresh rate.
For sure!
dont assume 1000R or 1800R "doesnt mean anything to us". dont project yourself onto the audience
1000 millimeter radius curve, 1800 mm radius curve. makes perfect sense.
1000 mm is 1 meter. 1 meter is basically 1 yard, or 3 feet in "freedom units" so 1000R would be a 3 foot radius, 1800R would be about 7 foot.
this is very easy to understand for every country on earth, spare USA, Myanmar and Lybia, the only 3 countries on the planet not using metric.
Very true.
Except EVERYTHING is still out of stock. AOC is going for way more than MSRP at 1500 bucks. Gotta pay big bucks if you want anything. Ill just keep holding off till everything is fair again
That's wise and very patient of you :)
Yeah! It's pissing me off! Everything is over MSRP right now! I keep waiting too!
And here I am laughing because of a mobile phone deal in Australia at a store called Harvey norman.... I get to save $800 dollars off the odessey g9. I'm getting it brand new delivered next week and it cost me cheaper than the previous crg9 model.... Oh boy am I lucky.
It's was a $700 gift card for getting a 2 year mobile plan with the same company for the same price I was already on and paying. And I said to the salesman I'll buy it right now if I can get $100 off... So $800 saved. Also, this store was selling it at the cheapest price available too.
Shadows Of The Paranormal the Samsung G9 was recalled for screen issues! Make sure you inspect it well. Deal might be too good to be true!
Bro!!!.. Thannnnnnnk you so much..
You solve my 3 week problem in 11 mins. I like to compare the monitors too.. But you just did such a great job with it.
i used to game on 24 inch 1440p 144hz monitors. I bought the Darkmatter 49 because well, i had to buy a 6900XT at higher than MSRP, so i went with the darkmatter over the G9. and i bought the darkmatter at a sale so 700 USD. Best monitor purchase ive ever done for something comparable to a monitor costing twice as much, its worth its price tag.
Now get the CX 48".... :-D
I trust Samsung more than the Monoprice name. Not saying the G9's don't have their issues but if I'm spending $900+ on a monitor I'm going to go with a brand name with long term reliability.
Plus the 1000R is suppose to match the human eye field-of-view and reduces eye strain because it better suits your peripheral vision when your fixation point being center of the screen in games the 1000R curve gets the rest of the screen into your peripheral view so you see it but not necessarily need to turn your head/neck like you would for a 1800R curvature. This does look like a good monitor feature wise though and the price is good. I just think I would go with the Samsung.
I hear ya! I also hear the price has gone down on the G9 and the CH90, making it much more competitive!
10 bit color is for HDR. You need 10 bit per channel in order to avoid banding when having a HDR picture. Take a look at standard video on blu-ray and you will often see banding even when using standard SDR-picture. So HDR is meaningless without 10 bit (or more) per channel.
I learned something today! Thank you!
CRG9 supports HDR 1000, not 400
...what am I smoking? ...how did I make this mistake? Thank you for pointing this out!
@@Ahnestly No problem man, a buddy of mine has the crg9 so that's how I remembered lol. Btw, why compare this monitor to the Odyssey G9? Don't get me wrong, the video is really good, I was just expecting something more out of the video than a cheaper alternative to the 32:9 1440p monitor high refresh spec. I think if you would've compared the AOC vs this it would've made for a more interesting video. Anyways, thank you and stay safe!
I bought the Crg9 over the g9 because the Preorders were down. I'm so glad I did because it's amazing!
If you're happy, then I'm happy! Cheers!
Funny thing is I got the odessey g9 brand new for the same price as the crg9 brand new.... All it took was signing a new mobile plan and I got a $700 gift card for the store.
G9 is actually temporarily discontinued which is why you probably couldn't order it. Samsung pulled them off the shelves.
@@CapN-Savvy that's fine with me because I love the crg9. Hopefully they fix the issue with the g9.
This guy is very Very good at reviews very detailed very informative a lot of research and time went into this video I appreciate that ...
I currently have the Alienware 34 inch WQHD curved
AW34 facelit I believe
Anyways you have a new subscriber for sure great review bruh 👌
Hey I appreciate the kind words and the support! Thank you!!!
Samsung changed my monitor, and now I'm very pleased with it! The image is great. The color saturation is amazing. In the game eFootball PES 2020, I had to turn off vsync because the image was lagging.It is imperative to use the eye saver mode, and the contrast of 20, then the eyes will not hurt. You can sit behind of the screen for 24 hours without problems!
This monitor is more comparable to the CRG9 than the G9.
Specs are similar. Freesync, 1800R curvature, same DQHD 1440p resolution, same 120Hz panel,
But it doesn't even have the 600 nits, and 1000nits peak of both the CRG9 and G9.
All of these monitors use the same VA panel from samsung, the G9 is the next generation of that same panel.
So it could be that Samsung doesn't release which panel they use on which monitor, but the Dark Matter tells you which Samsung panel it's using and when I ran a search, I couldn't find which monitors used the same panel.
And agreed, which is why I put all 3 in there. The title is a bit clickbaity, but my intention was to give people who drooled over the G9, but gagged at the price tag and give them a slightly more practical option!
Great review! I pre-ordered the G9 and my order was canceled due to the manufacturing issues. I have yet to see any update from Samsung on when it will be rereleased. The lack of communication is really disappointing to me, and honestly, enough for me to look at different monitors. I get it, stuff can happen in the manufacturing process and I am not upset about that - it’s the sheer disregard to communicating with their customers. I REALLY appreciate you @Ahnestly for taking the time to research and make this video. As the other comments have said, great content, great presentation, great B-Roll (yes, I see you got some really detailed feedback on this, but as an average viewer, I couldn’t tell), and great quality production. I have subscribed to all notifications from you. Keep up the great work!
Hey I really appreciate the kind words and it's a reminder that there are youtubers that can cater to all kinds of audiences! I did get several things wrong, but appreciate the kindness of giving me some room to screw up! Thank you for the support and again, seriously thank you for the kind words!
I ordered the samsung note 20 5g. Phone says delivered. Haven't got it... tried contacting support. No one answering phones, no one replying to my emails, online support is mainly as tech support. Samsung is really disapointing me in customer support
Oh man :-\
Already received the G9. No flickering issues with Gsync. The curve helps so much with viewing. Maybe it gets buggy when using a multi monitor setup or when switching between PIP mode but that can be fixed in a driver update.
I'm not sure about this dark matter monitor but it looks like a rebrand of the samsung panel that is sold to many of these companies.
Love your studio look, man. Is that wooden wall real wood or is a laminate type of deal? Great content by the way.
It's laminate! I got the cheapest wood looking panel at lumberliquidators! and thank you for the kind words!
If you want everything, the Samsung CRG9 is the best for the price (high as it is). But if you don't care about HDR, this Monoprice does seem like crazy good bang for the buck. I set my monitor with 3 modes (which you can assign to three buttons near the menu button) so I can quickly switch between Design Work, Gaming, and HDR. That way I can make full use of the 10-bit or the HDR or the Freesync.
That's pretty cool - can you set refresh rate using OSD? Instead of through your PC display properties?
@@Ahnestly Yes you can.
CRG9 is also 10 bit (1.07B colors) Thanks for this review, I really want an ultrawide monitor
CRG9 also has HDR1000 and I think the G9 as well
Thank you for the kind words! See the pinned comment!
Very informative. Thanks for the comprehensive info...
You're very welcome!!!
There is a point that for me is very important where it makes the Samsung G9 the best option, it has both FreeSync and GSync.
So the Dark Matter has both as well, but the G9 has a better version of Freesync!
The intro killed it
Correction. The intro nearly killed my camera.
Great video! It is pleasant to listen to you. What I would also appreciate - viewing angles, wall mount possible? Any speakers?
And you also made me realise one thing and I felt terribly stupid. I always thought displays can display any bit colour depth, as long as the footage has it. But now, thanks to you I realised, that even though I am shooting 10bit codec, I can’t actually see the difference :) I can only use it for heavier colour grade. Wow....hahaha...thank you
Viewing angles are not bad, but being curved, you shouldn't reall look at it at any angle other than straight. Wall mount is possible and speakers suck!
Ayyy audioengine a2+ and topping d50s crew, I also have the a50 and p50, sound epic!
Also ordered the g9, will arrive in about a month lol
Just wanted to see other 49 inchers, cool video!
Lol I just got the LG CX. It's definitely crazy for a desktop setup - stay tuned for a review in a few weeks!
I enjoy your presentation, thoroughness and honesty. Great review.
You spelled "ahnesty" wrong, but other than that, I really really appreciate it! ;-)
The 1000R doesn't warp lines in productivity at all - it is a misnomer - for a user who is dead centre everything is spot on. Whilst the Samsung C49RG90 does have a curve of 1800R, it's practically identical to the G9 in terms of spec barring 240hz and Freesync Premium. The C49RG90 is rated HDR1000 (1000nits peak brightness), Freesync 2, 120hz, QLED and G-sync compatible. I know this because I own both C49RG90 and G9.
I understand you making a review about the monitor you have but why attempt comparisons without having the other monitors to hand, especially since your information is incorrect regarding the missing panels yet your sources are correct.
Lines are straight for the user with G9 and the C49RG90 is a 1000nit monitor.
So recommend you checking out the pinned comment where I clarify the mistakes. As for comparisons, youtubers are here to add value and sometimes, there’s more value in talking about a lot of products than just one, and I don’t think not having the product should limit you....otherwise, only channels with hundreds of thousands of subs with the budget could do those videos. I admit I made a lot of mistakes in this one but I do adrdress and learn from them. the topic of curved displays and whether they’re good for photo editing is still a hot debate, which is why I included it as a warning
Hey, Ahnestly at 5:26 I'm wondering what your specs are
I'll do a video soon on my PC specs...I've made commitments to a few projects that I need to wrap up before I get to it though!
Subscribed! Really like your opinion. I did but the G9 due to the hype & I don’t think I’ll regret it but if I do then I’ll check this one out! Thanks
The G9 is definitely the creme de la creme, but when I think about how I can have 2 of these for 1 one of those...changes the perspective a bit
How do you know you prefer 1800R over 1000R if you've never tried it though
So even with 1800r, I've found I get thrown off with things when it comes to editing, especially when theres already distortion from using ultra wide lenses. I don't think I could use the 1000r for that stuff. I would love it for gaming though...since I'm not a pro, I couldnt care less about the curve! Lol
1000r curvature forms a circle with radius 1m (1000mm), which also corresponds to the optimal (max) viewing distance, 1m, based on the natural curvature of the human eye. 1800r then means the optimal max viewing distance is 1.8m (less of a curvature), which is significantly farther. for gaming, if you want the best immersion, then you want the curvature that matches your viewing distance.
My dream is to create the Ron Swanson desk with these monitors.
Bigger color gamut does not equal better color accuracy. Actually it can equal worse color accuracy if you don't color manage properly or run non-color managed applications (it will look more vivid = over saturated, but not correct). Even worse, if you have a big color gamut like Adobe RGB but only 8 bit you will get more banding in gradients, since the outmost colors are furrther out in the gamut, so the "steps" between each color will be greater. For most cases around 100% sRGB will get you the most natural (as intended) colors.
Thank you for this! This is helpful!
Hello, what monitor would you suggest it's either the Samsung and or Monoprice, I will be using it for day trading/stock trading. Thank you for your input.
In my opinion the G9 is for gaming. When it comes to looking at pictures it will be distorted. if you have the money to buy a g9 you probably have a extra flat screen monitor laying around to add to your set up.
Makes sense. If you're a creator though, you need more than just a flat monitor. 10 bit color, color accuracy, hdr1000, etc are all things that real creators can benefit from but are expensive features!
Imagine using obs or a video recording software, and look at the task bar.
Lollll needa upgrade your ram for one of these bad boys!
I have a Samsung C49RG90, it's freaking amazing! It overclocks easily to 144Hz, but means little for now as it's hard to drive games that fast. One the greatest things about this monitor is the brightness. It is SUPER BRIGHT!!! It's amazing!! I love it. Yes it had too few lighting zones but in games in movies you don't really notice this at all like you do when you have a black screen with a little test or mouse pointer . It's also much less than $1200 now.
I game at max brightness it's amazing. It is so cool to have to squint because a sunrise or something is so bright on the screen. Watching movies is so cool with a screen capable of such high brightness.
I have not used the Monoprice super ultra wide but it's not better than the samsung super ultrawides. Sorry it's just not
Informative so subbed
Appreciate the support!
I have a monoprice 35 inch ultrawide. And its a bad ass monitor. Paid $500 for it 3440x1440 100hz. So im looking forward to this.
That's sick!
just ordered mine for $699, (open box from Monoprice) applied a 15% off, so $594 plus tx... i'm hoping for the best. 🙂
CRG9 supports 10bit at 100hz
Correct...I was reading reviews that said 120hz 8 bit, which is why I made that mistake :-\
Moreover even CRG9 has 1000nits and HDR10, not 400nits and HDR400
@@Kakuz98 Yeah the CRG9 has the same HDR1000 certification, also the same amount of local dimming zones of like 10-15 zones which is not good but better than nothing I guess.
I had one and was unable to mitigate the flickering and screen blanking, so it went back to Monoprice. Otherwise it did have great colors and nearly no glow/backlight bleed. I recommend this monitor if you have a 2080 Ti and do not care about HDR gaming during this next console generation.
That sucks! Were you getting flickering anywhere outside of loading screens? Other than that, I didn't notice any flickering!
@@Ahnestly Flickering and screen blanking during game play in Fallen Order and AC Origins. 2070 Super, game settings tuned for average framerates 60-70. It would blank every time I experienced a stutter, so open world games with cell loading were basically unplayable. Games which run at higher framerates like Doom and Destiny 2 were fine.
Wow! That sucks!! If I keep hearing about those issues, I'll put out a "I was wrong" video!
@@Ahnestly If you have an interest in using your platform to help raise awareness about VA panel issues with variable refresh rate, you could make a general video about it. VA as a technology has brightness tied to voltage, and swings in refresh rate cause an increase in voltage which results in the flicker on cheap scalers. In my own research I have found that only G-sync official VA panels are legitimately flicker free. There's definitely a knowledge gap and you could do a lot of good for the community.
This is awesome. Email me please! (not a long email, just letting me know it's you so I can contact you once I free up) ahntouragemedia@gmail.com
I have a CHG90 (the 1080p version) and am looking at upping my resolution. G9 is too curved. This video was very helpful to compare other models. I didn't even know the Dark Matter existed. Now I'm thinking about it.
The curvature would be nice for productivity and immersive games or someone who doesn't care about being a pro twitch gamer. Personally I think I'd enjoy it but can't justify it costing as much as a high end gpu
@@Ahnestly I purely game but for me the curve is a deal break because of the desk space it uses. It takes away space in front of the monitor and comes off the fall so much you have to consider how close yo sit to the wall
What is your PC case? It looks amazing!
It's the Lian Li 011!
These types of monitors are defently really cool but i keep waiting for a monitor of this spec but 2160 height, that would have been going away from my 2-3 monitor setup.
Ever think about picking up the LG CX? It's a 48" OLED TV that is a really solid monitor replacement if you have the space (both desk space and distance between you and the screen)
Uh...
Just put your monitor CLOSER?
"Height" is relative.
You can't "fit" more viewing space on your eyeballs visual plane.
$1700, that's the furthest thing from affordable" That's a relative statement dude.
Alright rich person
The CRG9 also supports 10 bit color and its hdr 1000
Correct. see pinned comment!
Yeah must be nice to get your hands on one because nobody else can I've looked all over the place can't get along
Keep your hand on the trigger finger! These things are back in stock in a few months!
No I want the G9
Just FYI every professional creative I know including myself use curved displays. The more mild curvature doesn’t effect art related tasks at all.
Hey so I used a curve for most of my Editing too! I had just read a lot of mixed opinions about the curve and what it does to straight lines for photographers who want really precise straight lines. For what I do, I’ve had no issue. Some people say the g9 with its super aggressive curve is actually the best to edit stuff on bc your eye is equidistant to all parts of the screen, but I’ve also heard people give different opinions about that.
@@Ahnestly Any professional editing tool has the ability to draw perfectly horizontal or vertical guides as well as grids to align things correctly. I never used a flat monitor to achieve this, I used tools. These days I write code, so I don't think the curve will mean much to me.
I have this one Samsung C49RG90SSU
49" 5120 x 1440 32:9 AMD FreeSync 2 1000HDR 3000:1
Yup that's the CGR-9
Are you sure about the Samsung Crg9 being only HDR 400 & being 8 bit? Because according to the specs its HDR 1000 and 10 bit.
See pinned comment!
Very nice vidéo.
A question : how good are curreny graphic cards dealing with that résolution?
This resolution is just about as demanding as 4k would be...so the current gen wouldn't be able to hit the max refresh rate at the highest graphic settings. Bring it to medium/low and you'll def be closer!
Ahnestly And how about the 3080 with RTX on? I wanna know cause Im not entirely shure between CRG9 and Odyssey
@@schoggimah2142 with RTX on you aren't likely to get max refresh.
CRG-9 is HDR 1000, minimum brightness is 600nits, with a max of 1000
You're right! See pinned comment!
Gamers beware: Such big monitors will offer no advantage to your gaming experience for first person shooters or driving games. The FoV will be terrible. Your neck will hurt just looking from side to side (e.g. look at health globe to the left, then mana globe to the right, minimap in top right etc).
I was taking ass and kicking names in the games I played, but yes, you bring up a good point!
Great review man!
Thank you!!! Appreciate the kind words!
CRG9 has HDR1000, not 400. When comparing the CRG9 to the DM49 monitor, the CRG9 offers more features for less. One USB port compared to four on the CRG9? MonoPrice specializes in generic brands which is exactly what this is as a product.
Just bought a Samsung Odyssey G9 as cant wait for the Dark Matter 49" to get back in stock, I kept checking but its never going to get stock.
Just found your channel..very informative..good stuff thanks (subbed)👍🏽
Thank you, sir!!
I've been looking at the Samsung Odyssey G9 for a while now but was on the fence about it, and seeing this review was a step back to look at other options! Keep up the great content!
Glad I was able to help inform your decision!
@ahnestly, Ok, I get it hole is small, but let's try using slot or radius is small :)
Regardless, excellent review. I am debating between Odssey vs AOC vs Monoprice. Primary usage is for work productivity, no gaming. the requirement is 49ish, 5k, curved, long-lasting. Any advice
For work productivity, I don't think you can go wrong with any of these choices. You may want to factor in how much you'll need to read, because if you'll be spending a lot of time reading, the more drastic curve on the odyssey might be for you
Good Review 👍, wondering what psu cables your using in your pc build?
These are my cables - using my affiliate links here - would appreciate if you used them!
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@@Ahnestly thx awesome build
What are those blinking LED motherboard power cables you've got there in your PC?
Those are the Lian Li Strimer Plus cables. Maybe I should do a walkthrough of my pc...one of these weeks when I'm worn out, I'll do that as an easy one!
How have you made that back wall? Its awesome! You need to do setup video
Hopefully soon! A lot of product reviews coming up!
Unless you compare them to eachother, you can't fully review a comparison. But I'm glad your bringing attention to other options.
I don't know if you meant what you said, but I did compare them to each other?
What chair do you use @Ahnestly?
For someone who didn't use the G9 for creative work, what you said is 100% wrong. Since owning this monitor my creative work has jumped up in ease by a lot. You can do straight lines just fine. The curve helps a lot with your eye as well.
I appreciate the feedback, but while I didn't own the G9, I did my research and a lot of people dislike curved monitors for creative work as it did mess with their lines. Based on your username, you use it for photos and video, but have you considered creatives who use CAD? Or use their monitors for architecture work? Just because you use it and it's fine for you doesn't always mean it's fine for others.
@@Ahnestly You got a valid point there I didn't think about that other side of creative work like CAD users or architecture. Then you need to specify that. The majority of people that think creative work they think photo and video work which includes after effects. Because as for what I have seen this monitor works wonders for that. Just a helpful tip. 😊
please list your gear like the monitor stand type of desk chair mouse keyboard etc.....great job with the video
Hey! I break down my setup here with links in the Description - although, I've made quite a few changes since!
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Thanks for the kind words and hope it helps you! Let me know if there's anything I can help answer!
Hey what stand did you use for the top two monitors? I plan on having a similar setup. I currently have 3 16:9 monitors mounted side by side, but I want to get an ultrawide and have two up top
You can see my setup here - ua-cam.com/video/HDBJZ58BXZc/v-deo.html
or if you just want the link - geni.us/4J6AZlk
Looking for this as well sweet
Great review 👍 i bought the Samsung crg90. 1440 instead of 1080😉
How did the crg90 go for you?
Just like the G9 does the PBP work from one pc? Essentially two 27 inch with no bezel from the same computer while being plugged into two separate ports?
@Ahnestly How did you get the two monitors above the 49" monitor? I'm looking to do a similar setup, but struggling to find a monitor mount to meet my needs.
2x Tall Monitor Stand - geni.us/4J6AZlk
Did u take off the plastic piece to get your wires routed through or were they too small even with the cover removed?
I could route it through, but one at a time
The only reason I am waiting for the Odyssey is the 1000R
That's cool man! You do you, you crazy baller!
The CRG9 does support 10bit colors just like the G9.
See pinned comment!
Fantastic job concerning the content creation, your channels brand name and how you deliver the review. Closed it out very professionally.
I appreciate that!!!
in your opinion, is it good for video editing? i mean like the color accuracy compared to odyssey g9?
It’ll be fine for video editing unless you’re a professional
It looks nice but honestly I have been considering 4k. The only problem is the size of all the 4k high refresh monitors at the moment. Why the hell are they all 27 instead of 34. I just want a 34 inch 4k 100+hz screen but it seems to not exist yet. You would think it would be more expensive for the 27 inch over the 34 4k since the 27 needs a higher pixel density. I would be willing to drop a good amount on one but a 27 is just too small after getting used to larger monitors.
Totalllyyy agree with this sentiment, but I think the 34" wouldn't allow for 4k, since the width is too wide. I'd love to get my hands on like a 32" or whatever the size would have to be that's larger than 27" 4k 144hz monitor. That would be saweetttt
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Great video! Thanks!
Appreciate you taking the time to say the kind words and thank you! Thank you so much!!
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Whattttt thank you!!!