Sim Racing on a 49" Super Ultrawide | As good as triples? | Skippy @ Okayama
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
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I'm not sure if you're always this calm while racing, but I consider this the Bob Ross of sim racing. Incredibly enjoyable video!
I'll take that 😁
Ok, we’re just going to put a happy little 1x over here.
@@andrewgarner3428 :D :D
That is the reason I love Dave’s videos he’s always so soothing and enjoyable
Bob Ross of Sim Racing. My gawd that is accurate. And now I can't unsee it
This is fantastic. You drive more confidently with the increased visibility, and it gives a greater sense of speed which is great entertainment.
absolutely love my 49 inch super ultra wide, no bezels to annoy you and coupled with a vr set you never have a need for tripples
What is your FOV
I picked this monitor up last year when it was £999 on Amazon. Bit above my budget but one of the best hardware purchases I have ever made. No regrets coming from a single 27".
How far away from your face do you have it? Does the low height bother you at all? I want to purchase one next month after my DOF h3 sim get here. Cheers!
@@drumbri about 60cm away and the height is perfect for sim racing field of view.
@@blackmac1970 awesome thank you for your help.
Is it possibile to get the same fov of triple?
@@biturbo no because a single 49 just isn’t as wide as 3 smaller monitors and that along with how close you sit determines your field of view. For me, the FOV is wide enough and I don’t have the trouble and expense of mounting aligning and cabling 3 monitors.
I love the skippys, the racing is fun, getting stuck in the pack is fraught with danger though.
Having watched an Okayama race on another UA-cam channel, the appeal of the track passed me by. But now, having seen all the undulations, crests, dips and sweeping turns on an ultra-wide, the appeal becomes apparent to me. I don't know how close sim racing can come to the real thing but seeing what iRacing can provide, it definitely stands as an alternative.
Request to Dave; more ultra wide content, please. It really brings the action alive, the ability to see mirrors and opponents trying overtakes increases the emersion.
Thanks Dave. Your videos have inspired me to dive deeper in iRacing. I bought this monitor due to your experience and overall recommendations and am loving it. I was going to go back to triples and am thankful I found your channel!! Not only have you inspired me in racing in general but more specifically my abilities on the road courses. I've predominately raced Oval for the last 20 years or so and would love to run some laps with ya on there where I could hold my own. I have lots of work to do before I'll be catching the likes of you on the road courses but know I'm coming!! :D Fanatec gear enroute to replace my g920. CSW 2.5, 1.5 shifter, and if fanatec ever reads my email, they sent me v3 pedals instead of the ordered v3 inverted :( ahhhh lol
Keep up the content, love your videos!!
What is your FOV
Wow, I don't know Matthijs, but he raced hard and clean. Hats off to him
I love how your wheel and the wheel in the car are synchronized... very cool! I like this setup it reminds me of an arcade type setup you'd see at the funnery/arcade type places.
WHAT A MOVE UP THE MIDDLE! That was an awesome race, i need to get back in a skippy
Came for the monitor stayed for the racing GREAT race Dave !! I did find it funny the amount of crashing on a sim that’s known for clean racing lol
ik this is late but i wouldn't say iracing is known for clean racing lol i would say it's known for more competitive respectful racing tho lol
2nd that
i like this point of view alot. i wouldnt mind it at all if you would make a video in that format every now and then. 👍
I'm only 25 seconds into the video, but highly appreciate you covering this subject. I'm considering an ultrawide and wonder what the experience is like vs triples. Appreciate your content Dave!
In my opinion, Sim racing in VR is the way to go. Yes, the screen resolution isn't as good, but damn I'm just a casual Sim racing player and I only use an Xbox controller on my PC, but seriously the very first time I did a race in VR I was several seconds per lap faster, still using an Xbox controller, than my best ever laps on a monitor! It's just SO much better when you can accurately and easy judge distance in VR and look around.
Bought this monitor 3 weeks ago and returned its after 1 week of testing. While it is a super cool monitor by itself, it was not what I was looking/hoping for. I was using triple 24' before, and the 49' gave my roughly the same FOV, even a little bit less. Obviously without the borders, which is cool! Returned it and bought triple 32' for only 100€ more. It is SO much more immersive! For comparison:
49 = ~ 95° FOV
3x32' = 180° FOV
So my advice is, if you want the best SINGLE screen for sim racing, buy this monitor. But if you want maximal immersion and be surrounded, go triple!
PS, I'm using the ASUS bezel free kit on the 32', which works great, even on curved monitors! Used tape instead of the bulky ASUS holders!
how tf u just return d monitor lol
@@filipesantos9373 under some consumer laws you are allowed to return an item after 30 days (i know thats the case with australian consumer law)
triple 24" will give you around 160 degrees FOV
@@lukeannett but only if you are super close to the screen! I like the screens behind the wheel base, less eye strain for me.
When are they going to make true borderless screens like they do on phones. I have triple 32” and I used the monitor joints as breaking markers.
great race Dave you got a standing ovation on that one "never give up" was thiem on that race.
Happened to stumble upon this video just now after watching some of your newer stuff. Never change Dave
I do like how whenever Dave was behind that guy he tried to overtake. Then whenever Dave was ahead he asked why this guy doesn’t work with him to catch the other guys 😂
I’d no doubt be doing the same but it shows how wrapped up in our own race we all get
Very true 😂
I love my utrawide, had triples before, but dont feel any disadvantage honestly.
Having a full screen without any gaps is much ore easy on the eyes.
(my personal opinion :))
Sadly you have no idea about racing :D
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@@C42ST3N "Know" idea about spelling, yourself? 😂
@@SuperRiki81 oh my, i have no idea what happened there 😅
@@C42ST3N Hey, I guess know we’ll never now, since you don’t no. (🤣)
Fantastic rig that I dream of every day...but still not activated Windows? :D
I did, but that's popped up after a fresh install. I got all the features, just can't get rid of the watermark 🤔
@@davecamyt maybe try a crack to see if that gets rid of it?
@@benclimo461 i'll just have to purchase another key :)
You can activate Windows by phone. If you explain what happened, they'll fix it for you (assuming you didn't do anything illegal). Or maybe your previous activation was stored in your Live ID / Microsoft account. If you've changed the way you sign into Windows (different account) that might explain it.
@@davecamyt how do u move the ui .... mine stays within a 16:9 aspect ratio in center of the screen? Id love to move my timing and black boxes to the corner of my 32:9
Thanks for your review. I have a Samsung 49 inch ultrawide 1440 and I was having concerns about FOV. I was considering triple 27 monitors. I really love the ultrawide and triple monitors take up too much space.
Clicked to check out the monitor for flight sim, stayed tuned to watch the race. Wow! Good stuff.
Gosh, great race Dave, brilliant defending, and of course the Hollywood twist at the end!
Crazy how ya can jump into a skippy and casually run top split competitive times. Takes me towards to the end of an hours session to get within a few 10ths and all i run is skippy ha.
Solid racing as always. Always enjoy watching a skippy!
Just luck Andrew. 😁
Absolutely stellar racing, going 3-wide down the straight during the last lap was incredible to watch!
That was a hell of a race with Matthijs. Nice recovery and take-back on the last lap. And he did a good job using his head and backing down when there was nothing there. Great racing Dave.
Yeah he raced smart at the end. Good racing 😁
Those Skip Barber cars look like so much fun.
Wowee, great last lap. The guys around you were clean, was good to see 👍
Nice battle. I was in the blue car that got boxed in at the hairpin when the guy parked it in front of me. How I am supposed to "avoid" that I don't know Dave, but thanks for the coaching ;)
Haha, yeah you were goosed. It's more luck than anything half the time 😁
Paul, your not alone. We all get caught behind drivers that lose it and you have no where to go. I find it safe sometimes to stay a little backwards in certain areas just to avoid issues like these
. But the question is then when is the time to attack.
Think I'm gonna get a 49" ultrawide. Thanks for the video dave.
Great racing, kept me glued to the screen until the end.
Great race. Miguel Fuster ran a great race. But three wide into the hairpin on the last lap made this race worthwhile.
Nice one Dave! Great race, great rig, great monitor.. what else can I say really apart from I thought it was all great 😃 keep it up bud 👍🏼👍🏼
Isn't it "a rake of Skip Barbers" Dave? Smooth moves 👍🏻
Came for a monitor review, got a decent race as well. Awesome. Subscribed!
Hey thanks bud 😁
As straightforward as using the one ultrawide is, I started racing in vr, and I’m hooked on that.
Yup I have a 49 but race more in vr. The 1:1 scale is what does it for me
@@KurthardtJr do ypu play f12020 with vr ?? Wjat vr ?
@@evangelista279 I was using reverb for i racing. Ended up switching to 49 once I got comfortable
I had this monitor on my rig for about 5 months, and intended on using it as the center with 27's on the sides. That didn't work correctly and now I have had the triple 27's for a couple of weeks. Much prefer the triples, but hopefully will be able to use the 49 as my center correctly at some point in the future. For now, it's a nice 4th monitor. Hope to see more of you in ACC Dave! Love your streams!
Man 2 27s would be crazy on the side 😁
@@davecamyt if only games could render it properly... Some day soon hopefully!
Doug Cooper why do you prefer triples? I am in buying decisions and there are mixed user reciews all around yt...
Great camera view!!! Great driving, as always mate!!!
What a nice rig, wish they could ship to Australia! Definitely going the single 49" after seeing this. Thanks!
Looks great in ultra wide. I'd love to race with a display like that. 😀
@13:31 Oooooomph.
Nice driving and set-up.
But what i really like about you is the calmness.
( but for sure you were shitting your pants at that moment :-) )
Thnx again!
Finally ordered my PC for sim racing. Now I'm looking at ultra wides 😳
Looks really good. But would you prefer a triple screen solution? I believe, that you got a better overview of the left and right with a triple Screen....
How is the view in a bigger car like a GT3? The Skip Barber is a small one and you are sitting in the center of the car. How is the view with a ultrawide screen, when sitting on the left/ right side?
Marc Oliver Pohl I am not Dave, however it is all subjective to one’s preferred FOV. Dave appears to like a lower FOV, where as higher would give you more view on each side.
@@HomeSlice_2424 I am doing a FOV of 0,50 on a 32Inch Screen.... I thought, this should be the right setting.... Try to raise the FOV later
I hope these 32:9 screens come down in price.
Bought one of the Samsung Ultrawides in January. No complaints at all.
Smokey Stoner do you only use the ultrawide for racing? I’m looking at building a rig but don’t know if the triples or the ultrawide is the way to go
I have had a single 60”, triples and a rift but my 49” UW kills them all. Love it.
I think you'd change your tune if you tried the Pimax. The rift, vive, all look like racing through dirty binoculars. The Pimax however, now that's a real FOV and resolution that I would put up against a 49 UW anyday.
I'd love to try one 😁
Thanx for the ultra wide info. I am thinking about it and will now go for it. Unfortunatly the grphics card are short on supply, so need to wait untill i can get my hands on one for a reasonable price.
Thanks Dave i really enjoy watching your vids.
The ultrawide looks great. You have a rig to be proud of for sure. Cheers!
"Let's get rid of this pretender" Absolute madlad
Not really an iracing fan but it’s just a joy to watch you drive. Wish I had the same level of finesse!
Thanks Jonathan 😁
Love my ultra wide. Wouldn’t swap it.
Quality videos Dave well done. 👍
could you make a vidio like this one in a gt3/gte car would love to see how that would look like ;)
Jim Eriksen yes please Dave a quick one withe the BMW8GTE If you can another great race and video Dave 👍🏻🇬🇧👏👏👏
Yeah, would love to see that too, Dave
It's the same as having 2 regular monitors side by side.
Great and interesting content as always Dave!
Subbed, you put out really good content and I like your race craft, you should have more than 25k subs for sure
Thanks for that. Really appreciate it 😁
If you want a better Skippy experience they use a sequencial shift that is dog cut with no synchro. Upshifts are only a lift and downshift have to be a rough shove forward and an aggressive blip for heel toe.
Ordered myself a 29" ultrawide for an upgrade to my racing as used a friends 25" ultrawide and honestly it's the best compromise over triple screens
You mean ultrawide better than triple monitor ?
You were saying "if he would be sensible we would be up there with those guys" and every time Mattius passed you he was saying the same thing lol
I know 😂
That last lap 3-way fight was awesome
The same with gt3 cars would be very nice! Thanks for the vid mate!
Dave Cameron doesnt do what Dave Cameron does for Dave Cameron...Dave Cameron Does what Dave Cameron does because Dave Cameron is..... Dave Cameron.
I have triple screens and they are a pain in the butt. Besides the physical part of aligning, getting the angle set and managing the gaps between them you also have to deal with the software end of it all. Not all games recognize triple screens, setting up the screens for each individual game sucks and then dealing with the odd “starting a game only to find everything is screwed up again” is a constant threat hanging over you.
Also having to manage Windows with nVidia’s “Surround” is an issue - all sorts of strange behavior issues that gets tiring after a while.
I am eyeballing a giant, curved Samsung 55” gaming LCD - and hopefully put this triple screen experiment in the past.
Great vid Dave.
If you wanted to catch the group ahead you could have sat behind Matthijs, takes two to tango ;)
@Dave Cam Was wondering why you went back to triple screens?
I would also be interested in this
What a race. Good racing!
The actual comparison starts at 30:00
I'm really excited to see this build play so smooth. I just built a ryzen 5 2600x 16gb ddr4 3200 256gb nvme with an evga 2060 xc.
Omg, you really have very clear and crisp view in your mirrors. Looks like it's real lol
Looks brilliant dave. An idea would maybe be to change in and out of this webcam view in future races, whilst the normal cockpit view being the main!
i race with the 49" samsung aswell. i wonder about your FOV, mine is quite a bit closer (about the same seat/eyes distance) . Anyways, glad to hear your thoughts about the ultrawide vs triple screen setup, never got a triple screen setup. Keep it up dave, greets from germany
I really want one of these but I've just taken a screen grab from this vid and compared it to one from my bog standard 27" monitor and the FOV is almost identical. You can see about an inch or so past each wing mirror but that's about it. I was expecting way more FOV from a screen almost twice as wide as my current one.
Just here to campaign for naming the 32:9's the double-wide of monitors.
Keep up the good work love the vids and love the setup
OMG Right as he split the two cars COMMERCIAL ! FOCK !
I've yet to try the Skip Barber on AC. That's gotta be on my list to try this year.
OMG these Skippies look so much fun to drive, and reasonably forgiving, or is it just your are so good at driving them ????
While i think super UW monitors are cool and would love to have a Samsung 49" one day, but i feel like I would miss the loss of the left and right real estate of triples which I use right now and would feel like this being an actual downgrade.
Pigs Can Fly can’t agree more. Seems somewhat pointless
@@JasonRenfrow ultrawide over 16:9 monitors any day fuck triples
i wish i was half as good as you. just started out with sim racing (like everyone else due to a certain virus).. and boy oh boy do i spin and crash a lot..
You're not the only one Keith 😁
I enjoyed being able to see your mirrors and more of the side by side action in this video. Could you do the same for something like an IMSA race ?
👍
Yes I'll do another in a tin top 😁
Thanks Dave. Triples are such a major hassle cordwise and other that just have not bothered. Have considered the ultrawide a few times for when I'm not using VR and this helps a lot.
I'm on the fence between a 49' or 3x27', my main concern is about the lateral "stretch" effect there seems to be on the ultrawide..apart from that, don't really care about the 180° wrap around of triples, I'm mostly interested into the pure monitor performance and the value for money.
Yeah the stretching here looks pretty bad but you can mitigate that by rendering a 49 inch as three separate screens from within iRacing.
most 49" will have much better colour accuracy + brightness +HDR compared to 3 27" moniors that total to a similar amount
In my opinion, this far cheaper and less risky than actually racing.
Nice rig. what a race. 3 wide for 7th. Need to do more races with that camera view.
I enjoyed watching this. Brutal open wheel contact. Confused about how you're downshifting.
I reckon ultrawide + VR for when you want immersion. Triples take up too much space and you don't really need it...
You should get a VR headset, if you don't have one already. That would be the final touch to your setup. It would feel exactly like racing in a real vehicle.
I've had a few bud. Doesn't really translate through content. I'll maybe have another look on the next gen 👍
Dave Cam I knew you would have with a setup like that. I see what you mean, some people get dizzy and stuff. Didn’t think of it that way.
Oh man the three wide on last lap was the best.
Nice video, a nice bit of kit and suits your setup/lifestyle - would be nice to see how much of a GT3 car you get on that screen. For me, I'll trade graphical fidelity for immersion with VR, the only thing they really need to sort is hand tracking so I can actually use in-game switches in the cockpit and not fumble around on a keyboard or use voice commands. One day.
Tried triples ; but i still think VR is the way to go especially for iracing or racing titles in general. Nothing beats a good buttkicker + VR in my personal opinion.
I agree vr is amazing. If I didn't do this UA-cam thing I'd be in vr 100%
People: If we will work together, we will catch them
Also People: But I will go for overtake if I am at the one, who needs to follow
Hey Dave, looks like you're running 60fps flat here, either you haven't enabled the 120hz/144hz refresh rate on the monitor display properties or you've limited your FPS in iRacing Right click desktop, Display settings, (at the bottom) Advanced display settings, Display adaptor properties for Display 1, Monitor tab, Change the refresh rate to the highest possible. Then iRacing, make sure you haven't capped the FPS.
Great content as always, nice one!
Hey Luke. It's at 60 on purpose. Much better recordings when the SIM is matched to OBS. If I'm not recording I fire it back up to 120 👍
@@davecamyt Ah ok, though if you continue to use the setup with the webcam where we can see everything then you can always run it at 120. Obviously makes no difference to us, but saves you a sacrifice :)
Thanks for the over the shoulder cam, I hope you can use it every now and then. It's nice to see what you see. Also, it looks like you might have your frame rate locked at 60. Is that on purpose?
Yes I have it locked when recording. If I don't it looks a bit weird and choppy to me. 👍
@@davecamyt I have similar computer spec to you and was afraid to go to 1440p for fear of frame rate at the start or races. That particular race you still had 60fps at the start. Are you ever seeing a situation where it drops below 60 for the start of a race?
Nice video Dave, but I'm going to stick with my tripple screen setup :)
Hello sir. You make some of the best videos to watch. Content is good, racing is good and clean, and the language is clean and respectful. Hard to find a better channel. Keep up the great work.
I just started racing on PS4, Nascar heat 5, Gran Turismo sport, and F1 2020. Can’t wait to make the switch to IRacing. Where did you get the Alpinestar gloves that you were wearing.
Hi Joe. Very kind words, thank you. I think I just got them somewhere on the internet. Alpine stars F-Lite if I remember correctly 👍
@@davecamyt thank you will look them up. I just started with the Thrustmaster T-150 pro and it works well but starting to study what’s out there and looking for next one. Any tips or suggestions
25:10 Hot Damn!!!!! Three wide!!!!
Words to live by: "If you go through the day, and everyone you meet is an a-hole, maybe you're the a-hole."
In a similar vein, if everyone else is blinking, maybe you're the one who's blinking.
Yes if everyone blinks, it's you 👍
I love my Samsung 49” 120hz 1440p Ultrawide!
Great video Dave! , I think it's been mentioned but could you do another video, same perspective but a closed cockpit car GT3 or the Cayman GT4 ?
Yes I'll do another 😁
@@davecamyt Top man!!!
I’d love to see Project Cars 2 on this monitor as I’m strongly considering ordering one specifically for that game.
Interesting vid! I've got the sammie 49" 1440p as well. Never tried triples, and wasn't sure whether it was worth buying them at some stage. I'll be keeping an eye out to see if you end up switching back or not. I have mine just 3-4" inches behind the wheel rim, helps with FOV a lot.
How are you finding the resolution? I have an LG 34', 2560 x 1080 and I can kinda see the pixels already. Was looking into the 49'' 4K
@@dhruvb38 I have the1440 samsung 49 and being a pixel snob I binned 1080 a few years back, 1440 is almost perfect, I have a 23 inch 1080 monitor over top as an aux which is IPS and the image is not very good in pixel terms, I also have 1440 27 inch monitors on my desktop.
@@dhruvb38 The 49" I have is 1440p, not 4k. I can't see the pixels to any noticeable extent, even with the screen only ~22" away. I tried reducing the res to 1080 to try and increase fps (I only have a 5700XT) and the pixels were then quite noticeable. I don't see any need for more than 1440p though so quite happy with the resolution.
although i mostly use my HTC VIVE PRO i also use a 49 inch wide screen monitor and do have to say it's very immersive. Doesn't beat VR but is a very good alternative.
Channel VR hello, looking at getting a VR headset for sim racing, what is the best available in the market today? No budget.
Hello Dave 🙂 I would like to know if you have better performances (fps) with the ultra, compare to the triple? Thank you.