BIG Changes to the Hearthstone Quest System: How Will Your Rewards Change?

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    🤖💬 This video discusses significant updates to Hearthstone's Quest System and the potential changes to its reward structure. We analyze how these changes could influence players' progression and gameplay experience, focusing on rewards, daily quests, and new challenges. We also provides opinions on the impact of these changes on both casual and dedicated players, weighing the pros and cons of the updated system.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 146

  • @HearthstoneMathematics
    @HearthstoneMathematics  2 місяці тому +9

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    • @remliqa
      @remliqa 2 місяці тому +1

      I can fully understand the weight of having full military aggression against civilians can be, obviously . Keeps safe.

    • @sserkank
      @sserkank 2 місяці тому

  • @evanpenuryes3615
    @evanpenuryes3615 2 місяці тому +64

    These decisions are motivated by greed, it’s taking away 1500 xp per week and replacing it with fewer packs than the xp would have purchased. Over time free to play players make less and will be squeezed to spend real money. It’s simply greed, any other motivation is a smoke screen for all of these micro adjustments resulting in overall less available resources.

    • @HearthstoneMathematics
      @HearthstoneMathematics  2 місяці тому +12

      I understand how you feel, but I have to play the role of the devil's advocate. Based on the calculations, you will receive slightly more rewards than before the start of the Weekly Quest dramas (of course, if other types of rewards do not decrease). I consider the management's decision to be ineffective, but I do not rule out that they have good reasons. In my opinion, this is not greed but rather not generousity. The cost of the game has not changed, there was no need to increase the reward for the player. Rewards were increased due to mistake, now they have been taken away but provided with unusual compensation. This isn't a big problem, but I'm sad that this is yet another solution that will disappoint players. Has the revenue become so bad that they are forced to take away such a small number of rewards?

    • @evanpenuryes3615
      @evanpenuryes3615 2 місяці тому +11

      I will acknowledge we’re getting more packs than before the initial drama, but overtime the game resource requirement is inflating. It’s progressively been getting harder to keep up with added classes and overall numbers of cards for each set, shorter durations between expansions, the removal of a diamond / free legendary in the achievement system. Giving us more xp for the daily quests was an apology for so blatantly making achievements harder to complete for less invested players. They are quick to pull back positive changes, while negative changes are here to stay.

    • @TheTouristArrives
      @TheTouristArrives 2 місяці тому +6

      This almost feels like a tacit approval of botting. After all, why invest so much time when you can run a very simple script that will reap all of the awards without the time commitment (other than setting up the bot program)? I agree: it’s greed. While I respect Hearthstone Mathematics opinion, I think your opinion is more accurate, given the macroeconomic circumstances surrounding Hearthstone (i.e. what’s going on with Blizzard/Microsoft as a whole). What’s really frustrating about it for me is the lack of emphasis on fun. There seems to be no plans for retooling the matchmaking, no additional modes (such as more single player content, having a practice mode, creating an internal tournament format, etc.) and I honestly think if the development team focused on improving the overall fun factor for both new and veteran players, the game would organically be more profitable in the long-term. However, game designers don’t make such long-investment decisions; shareholders do. It feels like an inescapable situation when the motivation is maximizing profitability (greed) and not creating a fresh and fun product.

    • @Cainsultimategarage
      @Cainsultimategarage 2 місяці тому +1

      It's a free game, you should appreciate any free things you're getting here. People are ridiculous, you get a free quest that benefits you. Do it or not, up to you. Stop complaining about free shit

    • @inutamer3658
      @inutamer3658 2 місяці тому +1

      Greed is such a generic buzzword. Of course, any company must make money. I do believe the developers are trying to make the game more accessible, but yall will whine over just about anything in your free game

  • @keithjames1879
    @keithjames1879 2 місяці тому +31

    I generally enjoy the tavern brawls but I hate when I need to make a deck to play it.

    • @HearthstoneMathematics
      @HearthstoneMathematics  2 місяці тому +5

      This is a problem for many players.

    • @inutamer3658
      @inutamer3658 2 місяці тому +4

      I usually don't put too much thought into building decks for them and it seems most players don't either since I can typically win within 1-3 games

    • @KnownAsKenji
      @KnownAsKenji 2 місяці тому +2

      I have the opposite feeling, I like the deck building ones a lot more, the other ones relegate to 'get deck of random cards, hope it's less bad than opponents' pretty often, like this week's one, Wishes are neat but other than that it's just very same-y.
      But it's worth noting I have a large collection so building something that will probably bonk someone else is easy for me.

    • @zsoltsimon5876
      @zsoltsimon5876 2 місяці тому

      @@KnownAsKenji Same here, I like to build my own brawl deck much better than play a random deck or a type which was built by someone who have abosuletly no idea about the game... because that what I see when have to play a premade brawl deck usually.. atleast for Paladin.. They are get usually horrible decks in brawl.. I know because I play only Paladin and built more than 500 decks already for myself.. Paladin's brawl decks are usually horrible. Building my own brawl deck is a much better.

    • @Amghannam
      @Amghannam 2 місяці тому +1

      @@KnownAsKenji Nah, if I need to make a deck, just play constructed.

  • @ultimatediscdork
    @ultimatediscdork 2 місяці тому +15

    Thanks for the video! In response to your intro I am reminded of the quote by Gandalf in the Lord of the Rings - "Saruman believes it is only great power that can hold evil in check. But that is not what I have found. I've found it is the small things, everyday deeds of ordinary folk that keeps the darkness at bay. Simple acts of kindness and love. Why Bilbo Baggins? Perhaps it is because I am afraid... and he gives me courage." You ending your videos with 'never give up' gives me courage and for that I thank you! Hail to the heroes that are the Ukranian people and the soldiers that fight for them! Hail to the heroes! Hail to Ukraine!

  • @SlipStream-l3y
    @SlipStream-l3y 2 місяці тому +16

    blizzard seems to think they can continue to take away free resources and that will make free to players spend money, when in reality we will simply walk away from the game.

  • @remliqa
    @remliqa 2 місяці тому +49

    As a completely free to play guy, I prefer standard pecks as tavern rewards rather the the latest expansion pack.

    • @VargVikernes1488
      @VargVikernes1488 2 місяці тому +17

      Yes, they are much better, because you can use them as a new expansion pack AT THE START of the expansion, instead of a slow drip feed during the expansion. Who needs expansion packs 3 months after the expansion when you've crafted everything you needed, anyway?

    • @chaninakosovske6567
      @chaninakosovske6567 2 місяці тому

      True, but at the end of the day packs are just dust, with a low chance to add to your legendaries and epics, if you can consistently get enough packs to get all commons and rates from a set

  • @LordNEG
    @LordNEG 2 місяці тому +8

    I am glad to see a complete reversal of the quest system changes that caused me to quit back in March/April. At the time thanks to real life economy issues, I started ignoring the expansion pre-orders and mainly had been able to support the game by getting the tavern pass and the battleground pass each expansion alongside the extra card sets, which still added up to a decent amount of money spent on Hearthstone. (£17+17+15, if memory serves) So it's interesting to see the devs keep the tavern pass as extra rewarding for the spenders.
    The problem of course was the time requirement versus the amount of exp. By the time the 'Play 10 games' change happened it was too late for me, I'd already stopped opening the game for a month, there was no official apology nor a compensation for such a large goof up.
    Again, I'm happy that things are returning to 5 wins for x, but they'll need to do a nice enough welcome back offer for someone like me that still likes the idea of playing Hearthstone, but has moved on to more time efficient gaming elsewhere, so to speak. Thanks for reporting on the game as ever, stay safe, stay awesome.

  • @aninuji8882
    @aninuji8882 2 місяці тому +2

    I'm a guy that buys preorder bundle as well as the tavern pass. I would've loved if they keep the easiness to complete the weekly quests, I don't have many time to complete them and I really hate to see them going to waste.
    I hate when a game forces you to have a second job to complete all stuff they throw at you.

  • @KnownAsKenji
    @KnownAsKenji 2 місяці тому +3

    I will be losing out overall. An important factor to note is that the 'very rational' players like me who want to play the expansion on day 1 will need to buy more packs, which could be 30 or so depending on which Rares I want, losing me about 3000 Gold per expansion, even more than the Quest changes reverting, though that hit will probably also be felt with all things considered.
    Your explanation on why this course of events played out as it did makes sense. It's still kinda lame though.

  • @azerim2039
    @azerim2039 2 місяці тому +3

    I uninstalled when the quest changes appeared a few months ago (I think it was a few months?) and didn't install since. Blizz changed the weekly quests to be much more time consuming only so that they could chem a bit and tell everyone "look, it isn't as bad as it was at first".
    One Reddit comment summed it up niecly "when your side chick thinks she is the main one".

    • @N3mdraz
      @N3mdraz 2 місяці тому

      after 90 days you can get a free good deck now. Game is not in the best state, but play a couple of weeks, afk 90 days and repeat. I have no regrets

  • @Ejodai
    @Ejodai 2 місяці тому +1

    Considering the contextual setting of the next expansion, it feels pretty sad knowing there won’t be either of a new board. Will there even be a theme?

  • @matthewholmquist3871
    @matthewholmquist3871 2 місяці тому +6

    They may attract more money if they reduced the cost of the cosmetics over time. I would consider some of the signature cards and hero portrait's if they were more reasonably priced. I am fine with the current prices as a first adopter whale badge, but maybe after the expansion year it was introduced in reduce it to catch the smaller fish?

    • @HearthstoneMathematics
      @HearthstoneMathematics  2 місяці тому

      Based on the limited data I have, this approach will not currently increase revenue. But perhaps this approach will be used by management as an experiment.

  • @yellowpanther8228
    @yellowpanther8228 2 місяці тому +6

    You nailed the explanation from both sides of the argument. Great analysis.

  • @pehash
    @pehash 2 місяці тому +9

    My overall take is that HS is racing to the bottom.
    When you're greedy, you push people into spending cash, people leave, raise prices to compensate, more people leave, etc. Bottom.

    • @HearthstoneMathematics
      @HearthstoneMathematics  2 місяці тому +3

      This is not a typical situation for the game. Increasing the rewards was an act of generosity, now it has been taken away from us. Globally, nothing has changed, but the unpleasant aftertaste remains.

    • @gregharvey2173
      @gregharvey2173 2 місяці тому +1

      The mgt team should devise an end-goal in terms of revenue/profitability/engagement, instead of the more-than-last-quarter approach. This would keep their cash cow alive for as long as possible, instead of overmilking and poisoning it. The shareholders would have better overall returns on their investment. Engagement should be driven by players choosing to play more, instead of being forced. All this would make for more fun play and an overall better financial return.

    • @HearthstoneMathematics
      @HearthstoneMathematics  2 місяці тому

      @@gregharvey2173 In theory, everything should work exactly like this, but in reality, everything is more complicated.

  • @Radwulf.C
    @Radwulf.C Місяць тому

    Thank you for your diligent work, making the information clear and concise, especially comparing with the previous pass/quests.

  • @gessesouza198
    @gessesouza198 2 місяці тому +11

    Obrigado por legendarem em português, o conteudo de Hearthsone se tonou um pouco mais escasso por aqui depois de algumas mudancas que fizeram no jogo

  • @AntonioVaiano-l1l
    @AntonioVaiano-l1l 2 місяці тому +4

    On lor, they have a weekly reward system based on how much you play. The more you play the more you upgrade these 3 chests, getting rewards proportional to your efforts.
    They also have another reward system based on "regions" that kind of translate in "classes" or maybe "expansion" for hearthstone. This one consists in "locking in" one "expansion" on this trail of rewards and the more you play and complete quests the more you progress on this trail, like a season pass, but is always there. You can progress on only one "expansion trail" at a time, but you can always start progress on another one if you need cards from other "regions" . This is crazy useful when you need to find specific cards without the risk of finding cards from the whole entire set, wich can be dispersive.
    I play heartstone since the end of the kraken year. Previously you only had one mission per day, which only gave 30 gold at most. This meant 1 pack every three days. LoR instantly allowed me to have fun, not spending money and still having lots of decks. Heartstone will never really be for free to play players.
    I think they have so many different solutions to make the gaming experience rewarding, they are just too stingy

    • @HearthstoneMathematics
      @HearthstoneMathematics  2 місяці тому +1

      LoR was originally a more friendly game, but you have to admit that such great generosity and high quality were not appreciated by players. Digital Collectible Card Games cannot be friendly, as this will not allow them to earn money for further support. The most generous game in the genre was Gwent and it is already dead. At the moment, Hearthstone is the most loyal game and despite its huge popularity, there is reason to believe that the game has serious problems with revenue at least on the mobile platform.

    • @Mr.ThorTh
      @Mr.ThorTh Місяць тому

      @@HearthstoneMathematics That's really interesting. I'd love to know more about how the relationship between generosity and appreciation in digital card games works.

    • @HearthstoneMathematics
      @HearthstoneMathematics  Місяць тому

      @@Mr.ThorTh I am also interested in studying this. I know only one thing for sure, cosmetics in CARD GAMES cannot be the main source of monetization. It is not interesting to a wide audience, regardless of the involvement and reputation of the game. At the same time, players are ready to spend money on purchasing resources that expand their gaming capabilities. The financial success of Marvel Snap demonstrates that if you have a game with interesting gameplay, you can be extremely predatory in monetization. Despite the fact that players often criticize the game, it receives consistently high revenue on mobile platforms.

    • @Mr.ThorTh
      @Mr.ThorTh Місяць тому

      I agree with that. Cosmetics are not appealing enough.
      Do you think Blizzard can push a more predatory monetization successfully?
      People have also talked about "if bundles and packs cost less i would buy them" but like you've mentioned, history disagrees.
      But what if the bundles were sold for only 5 or 10 bucks cheaper? What's your thoughts on this?

    • @HearthstoneMathematics
      @HearthstoneMathematics  Місяць тому

      @@Mr.ThorTh Packs are the main method of monetization. Reducing the cost will inevitably lead to a decrease in revenue. Blizzard periodically reduces the prices of bundles and has the opportunity to check how this affects their profits. More generous offers are usually more popular, but I doubt that they bring in more money. At least this is not enough to completely revise the pricing policy. Hearthstone management periodically tries to be more predatory, but this leads to opposite results. But we know for sure that the management will look for new ways of monetization. Hearthstone has become too friendly and this is already leading to a decrease in the effectiveness of monetization.

  • @treysnell7564
    @treysnell7564 2 місяці тому +4

    I very much appreciate these videos! They are always really helpful! Thank you!

  • @ForGeUT
    @ForGeUT 2 місяці тому +4

    I can only imagine what you are going through. I very much hope there will be relief for you and your countrymen soon. You are one of the few out there who truly cares for their community and that is something we recognise. Your work is appreciated ❤

  • @morantNO1
    @morantNO1 2 місяці тому

    Thank you for shining a light on this. I am beyond the time in my life, where I have the time or want to grind games for rewards, but that was not to long ago and I totally relate to that. Anyways, factual journalism like yours keeps the powers that want to sqeeze money out of people in check. And for that I am grateful to you.

  • @soneka69
    @soneka69 2 місяці тому

    Thank you for all! Hugs from Brazil!

  • @RollzRoyce199
    @RollzRoyce199 2 місяці тому

    I will miss out on some resources as I am a min-maxer, but I have heard multiple other people say they sometimes don't finish all of their weekly's during the last couple expansions. So I can believe that the easier quests caused casual players to play more and/or earn more rewards. I'm not too broken up about the changes because as you said, it's not a huge difference.
    I think the issue here is that players see these tweaks as nickel-and-diming them (which they are), and it's hard to see how the marginal uptick in revenue is worth multiple periods of bad community relations. They could have had their cake and eaten it by reverting the quests but keeping the increased XP, and then made subtle tweaks to the rewards track (giving less rewards or requiring more XP to compensate). Yes, some people would have complained, but the kind of person who would notice is completing past level 100 anyway. Making some of the levels along the way require a bit more xp is a lot less noticeable than changing the quests you're shown every day. What makes people madder: cutting their pay or raising prices? Why do you think governments and banks favor inflation over wage cuts? Because people riot a lot more when they cut wages. It feels much worse to have something taken away.
    What I don't get is why they don't do more with the rewards track. Like, if they want to incentivize people to play more, put some kind of chase reward at higher levels. Having levels 101-400 all be 50 gold is boring.
    It seems like they're under constant pressure to grow revenue no matter. Doesn't matter that by reopening in China, they essentially doubled the number of players. The line must go up. The reality is, you can get away with a lot more of this stuff if the game is good enough. Players will complain, but if the game is fun and exciting, most of them will play anyway.

  • @mossysnail6857
    @mossysnail6857 2 місяці тому +1

    OK so how's about we Hall of Fame Reno/Zilliiax and enjoy the great dark beyond's draenei stuff?!

    • @valentinvozaf647
      @valentinvozaf647 2 місяці тому +1

      Ranger reno is the stupidest card i have ever set my eyes on. Hate it to the core

  • @dariuszchmielarczyk2590
    @dariuszchmielarczyk2590 2 місяці тому

    I am from Poland but watching without subtitles :)
    BTW. I really like this unusual intro hehe, Great Job guys:)

  • @Cainsultimategarage
    @Cainsultimategarage 2 місяці тому +6

    This game is a disaster anyway. Im tired of win more cards every expansion. Mana cheat and combos. Board doesnt matter anymore

  • @filo5930
    @filo5930 2 місяці тому

    Love your videos and creativity, hope you keep it on :D

  • @Mr.ThorTh
    @Mr.ThorTh Місяць тому

    I see these changes being good for the casual player that hops on during expansion release and then stops playing for 3 months until the next expansion release.
    For the more hardcore players these changes only mean a lot less gold.
    Can you guys also talk about how it is impossible to get the full benefits of the current reward track (if you haven't already)? Getting anywhere close to level 200 for an active f2p player is impossible.
    I'm at level 165, meaning i'm just slightly above 8000 gold in 4 months time, despite playing many many matchups every single day.
    With the mini-sets in between each expansion, those 8000 gold are now 6000 gold, and 60 packs + packs from the rewards track and events are just barely enough to get all rares from the expansion.

  • @arashshafie5077
    @arashshafie5077 2 місяці тому

    before the tavern brawl reward change I could stack as many standard packs as possible and get almost half of the new expansion cards just from them without buying packs. so I could save more gold. in fact I was collecting packs from future expansion! now I have to get packs of current expansion 1 by 1 each weak and can't have them instantly at the beginning of expansion. this will force me to buy more new packs (and get more rare duplicates without needing them...) to get the feel and gameplay of the new expansion at the start of it. basically the change is: have packs of one older expansion and buy more packs! so it is much worse...

  • @inutamer3658
    @inutamer3658 2 місяці тому

    I just enjoy playing the game a couple matches when I get home because it's fun. I'm glad that since the start of the game it's become a lot easier to earn packs. Typically, it's enough to get the weekly quests and I like being rewarded for trying out classes I don't normally use. I think anyone will find issues and can be upset when focused so hard on optimization of rewards, but overall, for me part of the fun of the game is working with what I have and managing gold/dust properly.
    I appreciate what you guys here though. I'm a math major and these stats are really interesting. Do you post anywhere your calculations or thoughts behind some conclusions?

  • @fatcat2015
    @fatcat2015 2 місяці тому

    For the most part, I do like the current expansion packs over the standard packs, because like you said I likely already have a everything I want from the previous expansions so packs of the newest set are more valuable on average.

  • @Kaeldorn
    @Kaeldorn 2 місяці тому +1

    I certainly hope they won't reduce rewards from in-game events. Those are probably the most attractive means to increase player retention.
    Instead, maybe they should cut down on rewards for AFK'ing on Twitch streams to artificially inflate 'buzz' for the game through a metric that doesn't actually mean anything.

    • @HearthstoneMathematics
      @HearthstoneMathematics  2 місяці тому

      The probability of this is not excluded, but one should not exaggerate the importance of twitch drops. Player activity does not increase so significantly.

  • @chaninakosovske6567
    @chaninakosovske6567 2 місяці тому

    Actually yea, standard packs are much better than current expansion packs for me. Because I always get all commons and rares at the start of an expansion, and part of that is saving my standard packs maybe halfway through and expansion phase.

  • @EWouda-tx2ri
    @EWouda-tx2ri 2 місяці тому +1

    Dear bot, i feel for your situation. I can't imagine how life must be. I respect the strength of your people as i respect your strength to go on. Stay strong

  • @EdrianLP
    @EdrianLP 2 місяці тому +6

    great video as always

  • @LuizMoratelli
    @LuizMoratelli 2 місяці тому +2

    Obrigado Davy!

  • @ConsoleCleric
    @ConsoleCleric 2 місяці тому

    I quit around the time Festival of Legends came out. I haven't looked back at the game, but I certainly like to check up on you fine folks, every once in a while. Hearthstone needs a major overhaul. It needs more formats, multiplayer and card accessibility. Until those changes happen, I believe Hearthstone will continue to be on the decline. With that said, I want Hearthstone Mathematics to know that you are definitely an example of a fine character of this game. In fact, it was your videos that inspired me to reach legend rank for the first time, back during Forged in the Barrens. So hang in there and keep doing what you do.

  • @dotuist
    @dotuist 2 місяці тому +1

    Thank you for your video!
    So, i think i don't like new changes. I am living in country where i can't make a purchase in headstone. I forced to be a free to play player. Of course I constantly use method that Bot describe - save all standart packs until new expansion. And now i feel that after next expansion i will be not have enough resources. But will see. Thank you again!

  • @parzi7063
    @parzi7063 2 місяці тому +3

    I've always been a non paying player and started around 2018. The first two years without any good cards in the collection were absolutely atrocious. The quest to win 5 games was exhausting and hard to do even in the low ranks as there were always opponents with just too many too good cards. Only after two years and the rotation and some good legendary cards in the collection it was possible to improve the win rate. Most of the times I rather did Duels, as it was easier to win there with the given cardpool than in the ranking games. Turning back to forcefully win games is devastating for all gamers with a restricted collection.

  • @DJWillyGMPLS
    @DJWillyGMPLS 2 місяці тому +2

    This is why I quit last season, you could see this coming a mile alway.

  • @urabga
    @urabga 2 місяці тому

    The new changes make me feel sad....
    I don't understand perfectly the new way to get more value from packs... but less free resources is bad for all.
    I'm taking tavern pass every expansión but I don't know if I'll do it again....😢

  • @Xzbit1200
    @Xzbit1200 2 місяці тому

    I don't think this will effect me that much as I only play battlegrounds but there isn't really much rewards for us anyways.

  • @PatrickToch
    @PatrickToch 2 місяці тому +2

    I quit about a year ago. Best decision ever

    • @N3mdraz
      @N3mdraz 2 місяці тому

      if you come back you get a free really good deck you can choose. Play a couple of weeks and quit for 90 days again. Those breaks make it refreshing for me

  • @Lu-KN
    @Lu-KN 2 місяці тому

    3:59 haha not playing the game I did know this just from now, but I changed to strategy to "I Do Not Care Anymore" :D

  • @tiberium98
    @tiberium98 2 місяці тому

    thank you for your content, but I do not agree with the part of the package for the brawl, I always kept them for the new addon and now they have made it worse, in terms of why do I need the cards of this addon when I have already collected them.

  • @MultiRioko
    @MultiRioko Місяць тому

    Obrigado DaVy!!!!!!

  • @KALANGODEPAREDE3D
    @KALANGODEPAREDE3D 2 місяці тому

    Standard packs is way more valuable than the most recent expansion, this change is horrible for f2p

  • @JasonGamerHS
    @JasonGamerHS 2 місяці тому +1

    Solo falta la traducción al Español gracias

    • @HearthstoneMathematics
      @HearthstoneMathematics  2 місяці тому

      You can use the autotranslate function, but I will draw attention to this!

  • @SCARaw
    @SCARaw 2 місяці тому +8

    Work harder for worse results
    Im so glad i quited heartstone
    So now i can play Arcanum of Steamworks and magicka obscura

    • @marleonka.
      @marleonka. 2 місяці тому +3

      You didnt even watch the video, because they say it's not worse lol

    • @joshlentini9520
      @joshlentini9520 2 місяці тому +4

      @@marleonka. he literally said that is worse for more engaged players in the long run if they dont pay

  • @matthewst537
    @matthewst537 2 місяці тому +1

    Botmathmatican will always live on

  • @Atzenfaktor111
    @Atzenfaktor111 2 місяці тому

    got legend in standart, wild and mercenary mode. did not spend a euro on the game.

  • @rojomemes
    @rojomemes 2 місяці тому

    hay subtitulos en casi todos los idiomas, menos en español :(

  • @Amghannam
    @Amghannam 2 місяці тому +1

    Win games? So dumb, I play for fun, not to win.
    I only log into Hearthstone to complete my play 10 games.
    Now I won't log in anymore,

  • @Cloud10D
    @Cloud10D 2 місяці тому

    Keep it up HS bot! You are the best HS channel!!
    Slava Ukraini

  • @impossibru7259
    @impossibru7259 2 місяці тому

    Why does Holomancer's voice still sound so weird?

  • @gianlucadeoliveira7102
    @gianlucadeoliveira7102 2 місяці тому +1

    Obrigado Davy! 💜

  • @bwybwy5392
    @bwybwy5392 2 місяці тому

    Why are expansion packs 2.5x more worth than standard packs?

    • @robertrubas2634
      @robertrubas2634 2 місяці тому

      i think standard packs are too spread out in rewards, most likely giving what you do not want as you can't target the likelyness.

    • @bwybwy5392
      @bwybwy5392 2 місяці тому +3

      @@robertrubas2634 I can get behind that reasoning, but as an active player, I most definitely prefer standard packs

    • @VargVikernes1488
      @VargVikernes1488 2 місяці тому +5

      Standard packs at the start of the expansion=expansion packs. It's much better to have a stack of 20+ standard packs at the start of the expansion, than having a drip feed of useless expansion packs after you've crafted all the cards, anyway

    • @bwybwy5392
      @bwybwy5392 2 місяці тому

      @@VargVikernes1488 yeah thats my thoughts

    • @fatcat2015
      @fatcat2015 2 місяці тому

      @@robertrubas2634pretty much, I think about it like this: if I get every legendary I want from an expansion, I don’t want to open more packs from that set, but if I open a standard pack and get a legendary from that set it will feel like a huge waste as opposed to pushing as many legendaries from the current set as possible.

  • @97pomer
    @97pomer 2 місяці тому

    thats why battleground is the hearthstone ! :)

  • @azu845s
    @azu845s 2 місяці тому

    Obrigadow Davi

  • @Banaanivatkuli
    @Banaanivatkuli 2 місяці тому +3

    Make a good game and players will play. Instead they cut content and try to force players to play with fomo and other unethical tactics. A paid class Monk next year?

    • @HearthstoneMathematics
      @HearthstoneMathematics  2 місяці тому

      Hearthstone does not have problems with the audience, at least according to indirect data. LoR and Gwent were very generous games with a high quality bar, but this did not allow them to survive.
      The monk is highly likely, but I'm not sure he's needed to solve the problem.

  • @giacomogrilli6851
    @giacomogrilli6851 2 місяці тому

    Man give us standard packs back, -20 packs at the start of expansion thx blizzard

  • @johnrey7365
    @johnrey7365 2 місяці тому

    What gold?
    - Some Battleground Players, probably

  • @joshlentini9520
    @joshlentini9520 2 місяці тому +1

    all i see, is less and less flexible resources, dont give me the packs, give me the gold, dont give me latest set packs, give me the standar packs, and if they screwed things with the quest systems, thats THEIR problem, because every single move thhey made is meant to make players resources less useful so they have to pay in order to catch up, and thats, shitty, plain and simple, because you mention economic issues, but i can easily see things going normally and this is just an attempt to scratch more money from the bottom line

  • @whoeveruwantittobe
    @whoeveruwantittobe 2 місяці тому

    You are spot on. Trust the data. We appreciate you.

  • @anglegacon
    @anglegacon 2 місяці тому +5

    Time to quit again =))

  • @geancarvalho6738
    @geancarvalho6738 2 місяці тому +1

    O fato de vocês terem elevado o preço no Brasil e não deixar o valor de acordo com a nossa moeda local acabou matando o jogo por aqui. Isso SEM DÚVIDAS abaixou a monetização de vocês. Triste demais espero que um dia voltem atrás dessa decisão HORRÍVEL. É o sonho

  • @nathones
    @nathones 2 місяці тому

    I play a lot less and don’t spend money anymore because I do not like the game’s modern design philosophy. I will continue to play casually and just ride it out

  • @silasbezerra2504
    @silasbezerra2504 2 місяці тому

    win 15 games? ugh, that gona be hard to complet, i prefer play 10 games

  • @SilverBullet_69
    @SilverBullet_69 2 місяці тому

    I have stop playing hearstones game mode and just play now battlegrounds hate it when the game forces me to play the shit that is now hearstone clasic mode cuz the game has become extremely not fun to play against someone

  • @DavidSmith-cr7mb
    @DavidSmith-cr7mb 2 місяці тому

    they werent done w the quest systems? lolllll, im outttt

  • @endzor
    @endzor 2 місяці тому

    that's gaslight, we will pay

  • @xSneakieXx
    @xSneakieXx 2 місяці тому +5

    As someone that has been affected pretty badly by the inflation in the US, I've gone from paying about ~200 per year on HS to ~20 per year. Being essentially f2p for the past 2 years, I've gone from getting roughly 95% of each expansion to 80-85% while playing the same amount of time. HS is by far the most generous of any CCG and is insanely accessible for new players, who can hop in and start playing competitively within a couple months without spending a penny. Compare this to Magic The Gathering, which demands at least 120 per year just to play casually and well over 1000 per year if you want to play competitively and use more than one single deck.
    I honestly feel for the HS devs, they're being (understandably) pushed to make the game more profitable by blizzard while having to deal with one an extremely ungrateful and toxic playerbase mostly consisting of f2p players that contribute nothing to the game's longevity. Yes, card games are expensive, but HS is the cheapest of them and insanely friendly to f2p players.
    TLDR; if you're not spending money on the game, quit whining about HS management trying to keep the game alive by making it more profitable. Hearthstone is eventually going to die and it'll be due to the players being a bunch of broke losers that expect the game to be free.

    • @HearthstoneMathematics
      @HearthstoneMathematics  2 місяці тому +4

      Hearthstone has too big an audience to die, but there is a serious problem with revenue, at least on mobile platforms. But you can't blame the players for that. The management has been slowly leading the game to this point with their strategy, and their decisions are making things worse.

    • @luizfernandotesck144
      @luizfernandotesck144 2 місяці тому

      ​@@HearthstoneMathematics are you stupid? I don't know if you know, but buying is more expensive on mobile because Google play and Apple have a tax. Só everyone just buy on PC or website. Marvel snap is obviously going to make more money on mobile because you can only buy there.

    • @dAt3q
      @dAt3q 2 місяці тому

      Their income is way bigger than their costs for the dev team and the resources. But they want more, endlessly more. And their greed will make people run away. The devs earn nothing compared to the owners, and that is a problem. And there is actually 4 tiers of customers: whales, regular spenders, bargain seekers and completely f2p. They do target whales.

    • @HearthstoneMathematics
      @HearthstoneMathematics  2 місяці тому

      @@dAt3q We don't know anything about overall revenue. Based on mobile trends today, I would guess that it is declining. Hearthstone costs significantly more to support and develop than other card games in the genre. Yes, management always wanted to generate even more, but these attempts had limited impact. This year we have seen an unprecedented number of negative decisions and this coincides with the decline in revenue on the mobile platform.

  • @ihavecrabs56
    @ihavecrabs56 2 місяці тому

    they should just make all the cards free. i dont understand how a game can be considered competitive pvp when you have to either grind or pay to assemble a deck....

    • @sathrielsatanson666
      @sathrielsatanson666 2 місяці тому

      How come tennis is considered comoetitive, they do not give you a free racket but you need to buy one. 😮

    • @ihavecrabs56
      @ihavecrabs56 2 місяці тому

      @@sathrielsatanson666 just say u enjoy paying daddy blizzard to win instead of skill

    • @sathrielsatanson666
      @sathrielsatanson666 2 місяці тому

      @@ihavecrabs56 you, dear sir, are retarded and I have not spent a dime on HS in over a year. Also I have not been playing for 2 months. So do you have any not stupid replies?

  • @DamianPereyraHs
    @DamianPereyraHs 2 місяці тому

    Never doubt guys. THEY just want to blow up the game, again...
    Holy f*ck. I'm pissed off that i can't take a constructive critic or idea. 🤬

  • @wassemfathy
    @wassemfathy 2 місяці тому

    I do not like these changes. They are working soooo hard to kill of F2P players. All this is in preparation to have 4 expansions per year coming in 2025 - February, May, August, November...
    Already expensive game is going to be even more expensive. As for the engagement, they should have introduced separate awards track for Standard and Wild and engagement would increase significantly...

  • @astaroth2454
    @astaroth2454 2 місяці тому

    I dont understand the whole fuss. Like as a f2p for years at best i cant play like maybe 2 decks every expansion.
    Played less bevause this meta sucked and dh keeps getting boring cards but i dont see the game in such a bad spot. If i get to play the new cards freeely i am happy

  • @kubex222
    @kubex222 2 місяці тому

    I am so glad i moved to yugioh.

  • @Zkeleton969
    @Zkeleton969 2 місяці тому

    Why are you complaining, this will make things so much easier

  • @sserkank
    @sserkank 2 місяці тому

  • @JoelDjuel
    @JoelDjuel 2 місяці тому +5

    Slava ukraini come to brazil

  • @johntrellston9514
    @johntrellston9514 2 місяці тому +6

    Hearthstone is dead it just takes a while to fall into the coffin

    • @th3h0ly3nity9
      @th3h0ly3nity9 2 місяці тому

      HS is not dead. Yes, there were many changes, good and bad, they accelerated the gameplay by adding stupid powerful cards in game so your battles last shorter. This was done so their target audience have time to play and they don't lose their customers. Most of us grew up with HS and now barely have time to play because most of us work, have families to take care of and so on. This is the reason they started creating overpowered cards so people have time to play. It was designed to keep their existing customers in the game and not lose them. Also to make the game more interesting to atract new players. And for the quests, they made them take longer to complete so they keep you longer logged on in the game. Its all by design. This work is part of their marketing team.

    • @Ttangko_
      @Ttangko_ 2 місяці тому

      @@th3h0ly3nity9 mobody reading allat

    • @alexandralamond347
      @alexandralamond347 2 місяці тому

      @@th3h0ly3nity9 Name 3 of the "Good" changes that havent been reverted.

    • @DavidSmith-cr7mb
      @DavidSmith-cr7mb 2 місяці тому +1

      alotta cope lol

  • @TheRevan1337
    @TheRevan1337 2 місяці тому

    #SlavaUkraine

  • @ElementVoidX
    @ElementVoidX 2 місяці тому +2

    the only thing I expect from the HS Devs is to try and nickel and dime their players even more.

  • @SuperZelda1712
    @SuperZelda1712 2 місяці тому

    🇺🇦 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦

  • @chrisbryant6713
    @chrisbryant6713 2 місяці тому +1

    How have you dodged fighting for your country? You have avoided serving your country while staying in Ukraine?

  • @hollowcow
    @hollowcow 2 місяці тому

    Slava Ukrani. Did I say that right?

    • @Prosto-Ban
      @Prosto-Ban 2 місяці тому

      Yes, and we respond to it with “Geroyam Slava!”(roughly translated to “glory to our heroes”)

  • @marcelolima70
    @marcelolima70 2 місяці тому +1

    Obrigado Davy!