Seeing all those legendary cards that see no play at all made me realize how much this new set flopped, i really hope they spend more time testing the next starcraft cards, i don't want them to flop as hard as these ones.
look on hsreplay for which cards ARE the most played. zilliax is ubiquitous to the point that decks should just get 29 slotsnow, and zilliax be stuck in the 30th slot for every deck
You realize the only reason they "failed" is not because they're badly designed cards , it's because they're trying to lower the power level of the game and this is a consequence of it since we have some of the most broken expansions still in rotation ( Titans , Showdown in the Badlands etc.) after these get rotated and we get more support I wouldn't be surprised if most of these cards see play.
Knew Ceaseless Expanse would be no. 1 without skipping to the end 😉One of the best board clears with a massive body that puts Deathwing to shame. Don't think I've seen a legendary that's been used in almost every deck in Standard
@@RznRYT Oh Reno is just the worst offender I've seen in my games. But there is so much insta-removal that you can't really even use it. It if makes it two turns after launch, you're really lucky.
Thanks from Brazil. I still play the game with packs from ranked and track, because i cannot open the shop on my mobile device since the miniset of reno cowboy.
Some of the cards in this set will see more play after the next rotation in the Spring. A lot of powerful cards will rotate out and there will be a smaller pool to choose from.
I'm actually fine with the expansion being a lower power level and hope that the next expansion/rotation similarly lowers the power level so we get more interesting and less frustrating games.
It's absolutely incredible that since I stopped spending money on the game due to the abusive price hike in my country, the only legendaries I open in packs are the ones considered useless, lame or bad... If Blizzard weren't such a benevolent company, I would suspect that it was something more than a mere coincidence...
it´s not that the set is weak but rather the previous sets were ridiculous and very overtuned. Once badlands and titans rotates out and they continue to lower or atleast keep the power level stable the game will be more fun again... i hope so anyway
You should craft only cards from Wizbang, Perils and Dark Beyond expansions. Wheel is from Wizbang's workshop i think is a safe craft if you have dust to do it and dont run out of dust. Also to consider if you want to know what is craft worth, check if a deck you like next year loses a significant amount of cards. Like highlander decks, because next year Reno rotates.
what purpose does crafting a golden card serve? the normal version is the exact same... you wont win more just because a cards gold lol. you can even craft more cards if u saved your dust instead of crafting gold... lol
Yeah, you are complety right, i have a lot of golden cards, i love them, i have like 3 diamonds and 2 signatures in my all golden DK, with diamond skin, or my mithic Ragnaros full golden deck, or Pally.... and i dont know if people think im better at the game, or emote so hard trying to believe themselves are so good just by winning me a game, and im like yeah bro, theyre the exact same cards, i could be unlucky or play bad as you. I dont know if i explained it correctly, but they feel so superior to winning me, or soooo angry by losing.
@@juliosoto6315 i guarantee nobody thinks youre better at the game. were laughing because we win against u in spite of spending only a fraction of what you did lol. i do think its cringe if people continuously emote though so thats not cool.
I love this expansion theme and starship mechanic but I just refuse to put all the effort into building a starship just for Reno to wipe it away in an instant. As long as Reno is not nerfed / banned I refuse to play any starship decks apart from Starship Hunter who just MIGHT be fast enough to kill someone by turn 10 without ramp / mana cheat.
You're not gonna face Reno that much, and even when you do, what the heck are the odds a highlander deck has exactly the removal it needs against you? If you want to have fun, Starships work.
What is the pack buying sequence after getting all rares for Perils in Paradise & Great Dark Beyond? We know about: whizbang (190 avg dust/pack) -> badlands(188) -> Titans(173) But how much avg dust/pack is Perils in Paradise and how much is Great Dark Beyond?
Hi my friend, hope you're well I just started covering the new Pokemon TCG Pocket and I'm having a blast They made $12M in 4 days Are you going to make a video on it?
@@HearthstoneMathematics I guess they can if they update regularly with interesting events/challenges The simplicity of battling makes it a lot more accessible for the general public, not just veteran card game players If fans don't mind spending a bit to get their collection going, then I think the success will continue on
I think it's a bit disingenuous to call it a "control meta" when its only OTK and the most popular deck is an aggro deck. Its a combo meta like United in Stormwind if anything.
Eu achei muito legal a dinâmica dessa expansão, ter peças e montar suas próprias naves parece muito legal, além da temática de universo, o problema é que o jogo tem criado cartas cada vez mais fortes que acabam engolindo essas ideias de decks mais lentos e criativos, sempre tem alguém dando um OHKO na cara ou sendo rápido demais para reagir
In my opinion, the best way to lower the power level is to have less sets in the standard meta. Probably just the last 4 sets and the core set. Every expansion a set should rotate to wild
I am now glad I did not buy a pre order. I did not buy a pre order because I am upset that we got no new board or music, now with pretty much no new cards being needed to be competitive it was a wise move.
Siento que fue una serie de eventos desafortunados. Elemental mage sin el set ya era bastante bueno y sumado los spells y el elemental que roba 3 arrasaron con los mazos midrange que aun faltaban optimizar. Sumado a los problemas del quazar rogue volvio ideal jugar mazos control de mucha armadura como druida starship, blood dk y guerrero odin. Un mazo aggro - modrange no puede hacer mucho contra 50-90 de salud. Por esto creo que tantas cartas con potencial no tengan data.
Firstly, I like this channel. Secondly, I think that this lower power level may actually be good for the post rotation since most of the OP stuff will be gone, it may be the only way to not endlessly powercreep: It's ok to have some months where the newer expansions are not that impactful in order to avoid infinite powercreep, I guess we'll soon see.
I always w8 2 weeks with meta to settle in. I don't like any if the legendaries of this set. So crafted legendaries from 2 prior sets= "mistah vista" & "shudderblock" this week as a f2p player.
I believe the people who produced this video are from Ukraine, so English is not their primary language. I am willing to cut them some slack on misspelling a word here or there.
Hearthstone is like this: I played 10 games, won 4 and lost the rest, because there is a lot of effect linked to luck! Current Hearthstone just frustrates me! Before I played YU-GI-OH Master Duel for more than 8 hours, I built 3 free decks and they are not complete, I climbed ranks, I did the missions and I was able to buy 5 packs for free! In YU-GI-OH Master Duel there is deck strategy while in Hearthstone THERE IS NO STRATEGY AND YES, LUCK IS LINKED TO THE CARD EFFECT!! I only played Hearthstone because I played the KONAMI game a lot, so I lost more than I won, because the opponent had more LUCK than me, whereas in YU-GI-OH MASTER DUEL what exists is the deck's strategy! !
Hi. I add English subtitles to each video and viewers have the option to use the auto-translate feature. Davy wrote to me a while ago and suggested improving the auto-translation for the Brazilian Portuguese language. I can provide you with access to the Spanish translation, but unfortunately I have no way to pay you for your efforts :[
@HearthstoneMathematics I'm no profesional, so I would never expect any pay for it Been a long time follower Who just thinks it could bring more people or accesibility :)
@@sheda111 Thank you for your interest! I can give you UA-cam Permissions and assign you to the role of Subtitle Editor. This will allow you to add and edit subtitles in the UA-cam Studio section. Email me at crazymathematician.hs@gmail.com so I can send you a request.
I find that the new approach is good but at the same time I am less interested in the game since years. I find the whole starship mechanic very lame and can't see myself ever becoming excited about it.
I warned you that warlovk's 3 mana legendary effect was horrible! The worst part was realizing that the warlock's other 7-mana legendary is also bad! Congratulations to the fat game designers for this incredible, terrible work, I used to think it was bad to have to play the season with weak and useless cards, today, I change card games! The competitor's card game is much better! Hugs!!
Such a crap expansion, I was briefly hyped as I get close to the free 50 legendary before remembering of what I have left there's maybe two that aren't entirely crap
Content creators have far too much influence over the game. You should turn to the top players in the world for insight into what requires balancing rather than listening to some content creators that are average players.
@@BIacklce You just proved my point. You don't balance games based on what majority of the playerbase (often bad, low ranks) thinks. You balance the game based on power outliers which stand out at higher levels of competitive play. This is how it is done in CS, LoL, Starcraft and any other popular game ever. Your favourite UA-camrs, for the most part are not at the top end of ladder. Could you imagine letting average redditors balance the game? 😆
Seeing all those legendary cards that see no play at all made me realize how much this new set flopped, i really hope they spend more time testing the next starcraft cards, i don't want them to flop as hard as these ones.
look on hsreplay for which cards ARE the most played.
zilliax is ubiquitous to the point that decks should just get 29 slotsnow, and zilliax be stuck in the 30th slot for every deck
You realize the only reason they "failed" is not because they're badly designed cards , it's because they're trying to lower the power level of the game and this is a consequence of it since we have some of the most broken expansions still in rotation ( Titans , Showdown in the Badlands etc.) after these get rotated and we get more support I wouldn't be surprised if most of these cards see play.
what starcraft stars bro? :)
@@dubey666manustarcraft mini set is coming
@@yurayura1812 that's not just powercreep problem, those cards are actively bad, they are lik 2016 level of horrible
Knew Ceaseless Expanse would be no. 1 without skipping to the end 😉One of the best board clears with a massive body that puts Deathwing to shame. Don't think I've seen a legendary that's been used in almost every deck in Standard
Ziliax deluxe ?
Astalor?
OG Denathrius?
Dr Boom?
yogg titan pre nerf?
You typed “descent” which means “moving downward.” You meant to say “decent” which means “acceptable but not great.”
I like the Starship concept but it's terrible in practice. I can't tell you how many times Reno has eaten my ship before it even launched.
Is it the entirety of the starship mechanic or the one card that cancels out any mid-range play?
@@RznRYT Oh Reno is just the worst offender I've seen in my games. But there is so much insta-removal that you can't really even use it. It if makes it two turns after launch, you're really lucky.
As people play with Murmur more, it's gonna get more popular in standard for sure.
im hoping, im keeping it
Thanks from Brazil.
I still play the game with packs from ranked and track, because i cannot open the shop on my mobile device since the miniset of reno cowboy.
Some of the cards in this set will see more play after the next rotation in the Spring. A lot of powerful cards will rotate out and there will be a smaller pool to choose from.
Your editing and even UI are really high quality
Thanks:]
I'm actually fine with the expansion being a lower power level and hope that the next expansion/rotation similarly lowers the power level so we get more interesting and less frustrating games.
obrigado davi pelas legendas rei!
and thanks for the video, a really cool channel, tysm
It's absolutely incredible that since I stopped spending money on the game due to the abusive price hike in my country, the only legendaries I open in packs are the ones considered useless, lame or bad... If Blizzard weren't such a benevolent company, I would suspect that it was something more than a mere coincidence...
Get atleast pitytimer with
it´s not that the set is weak but rather the previous sets were ridiculous and very overtuned. Once badlands and titans rotates out and they continue to lower or atleast keep the power level stable the game will be more fun again... i hope so anyway
Question. Is the wheel of death, worth the Craft? And also. Should i make my boy K'iljaiden golden?
You should craft only cards from Wizbang, Perils and Dark Beyond expansions.
Wheel is from Wizbang's workshop i think is a safe craft if you have dust to do it and dont run out of dust.
Also to consider if you want to know what is craft worth, check if a deck you like next year loses a significant amount of cards.
Like highlander decks, because next year Reno rotates.
@juliosoto6315 my thanks
what purpose does crafting a golden card serve? the normal version is the exact same... you wont win more just because a cards gold lol. you can even craft more cards if u saved your dust instead of crafting gold... lol
Yeah, you are complety right, i have a lot of golden cards, i love them, i have like 3 diamonds and 2 signatures in my all golden DK, with diamond skin, or my mithic Ragnaros full golden deck, or Pally.... and i dont know if people think im better at the game, or emote so hard trying to believe themselves are so good just by winning me a game, and im like yeah bro, theyre the exact same cards, i could be unlucky or play bad as you.
I dont know if i explained it correctly, but they feel so superior to winning me, or soooo angry by losing.
@@juliosoto6315 i guarantee nobody thinks youre better at the game. were laughing because we win against u in spite of spending only a fraction of what you did lol. i do think its cringe if people continuously emote though so thats not cool.
Crafted Maladar and Naille as Reno DK and Hunter are the only two decks I enjoy playing. I'm Only missing Kil'Jaden from the top 5 list.
I love this expansion theme and starship mechanic but I just refuse to put all the effort into building a starship just for Reno to wipe it away in an instant. As long as Reno is not nerfed / banned I refuse to play any starship decks apart from Starship Hunter who just MIGHT be fast enough to kill someone by turn 10 without ramp / mana cheat.
You're not gonna face Reno that much, and even when you do, what the heck are the odds a highlander deck has exactly the removal it needs against you? If you want to have fun, Starships work.
They really looked at Rastakhan's Rumble and went "We can go lower".
What is the pack buying sequence after getting all rares for Perils in Paradise & Great Dark Beyond?
We know about: whizbang (190 avg dust/pack) -> badlands(188) -> Titans(173)
But how much avg dust/pack is Perils in Paradise and how much is Great Dark Beyond?
Hi my friend, hope you're well
I just started covering the new Pokemon TCG Pocket and I'm having a blast
They made $12M in 4 days
Are you going to make a video on it?
Hi. I'm keeping an eye on the Pokemon situation, but I need more data. The main question is whether this financial success will remain sustainable :]
@@HearthstoneMathematics I guess they can if they update regularly with interesting events/challenges
The simplicity of battling makes it a lot more accessible for the general public, not just veteran card game players
If fans don't mind spending a bit to get their collection going, then I think the success will continue on
Obrigado Davy!
I think it's a bit disingenuous to call it a "control meta" when its only OTK and the most popular deck is an aggro deck. Its a combo meta like United in Stormwind if anything.
Can’t wait til rotation when the attempt to reverse powercreep with show
Eu achei muito legal a dinâmica dessa expansão, ter peças e montar suas próprias naves parece muito legal, além da temática de universo, o problema é que o jogo tem criado cartas cada vez mais fortes que acabam engolindo essas ideias de decks mais lentos e criativos, sempre tem alguém dando um OHKO na cara ou sendo rápido demais para reagir
Breaker of stars got me a win today in my warrior deck when it was randomly generated and had 2x battlecry 😂
In my opinion, the best way to lower the power level is to have less sets in the standard meta. Probably just the last 4 sets and the core set.
Every expansion a set should rotate to wild
y'know one of the first legendaries from the music expansion that i got was the legacy dj manastorm legendary...
I crafted the rogue ship cause it is really cool, but thankfully I opened ceaseless xD
I would like to see this analysis for epic cards
quasar
final frontier
guiding figure
specimen claw
I am now glad I did not buy a pre order. I did not buy a pre order because I am upset that we got no new board or music, now with pretty much no new cards being needed to be competitive it was a wise move.
Siento que fue una serie de eventos desafortunados. Elemental mage sin el set ya era bastante bueno y sumado los spells y el elemental que roba 3 arrasaron con los mazos midrange que aun faltaban optimizar. Sumado a los problemas del quazar rogue volvio ideal jugar mazos control de mucha armadura como druida starship, blood dk y guerrero odin. Un mazo aggro - modrange no puede hacer mucho contra 50-90 de salud. Por esto creo que tantas cartas con potencial no tengan data.
I miss that class that use to exist...what was called? Sacerdote, Cleric...i dont remember
Firstly, I like this channel.
Secondly, I think that this lower power level may actually be good for the post rotation since most of the OP stuff will be gone, it may be the only way to not endlessly powercreep: It's ok to have some months where the newer expansions are not that impactful in order to avoid infinite powercreep, I guess we'll soon see.
Wish I saw this video before crafting so many legendary minions, only to disenchant them
I always w8 2 weeks with meta to settle in. I don't like any if the legendaries of this set. So crafted legendaries from 2 prior sets= "mistah vista" & "shudderblock" this week as a f2p player.
gotta love getting 4/5 out of packs on day one.
Descent or decent?
Why not both?
@juananonimo6993 descent does not make sense here
@@josearroyo9725 I know.....
But people getting really dumb at writing stuff, so well, in order to follow the trend.....
I believe the people who produced this video are from Ukraine, so English is not their primary language. I am willing to cut them some slack on misspelling a word here or there.
the good thing is they didnt destroyed the previous meta
A few nerfs here and there are needed tho
Good video
Thanks:]
Obrigado davi
Learned
Hearthstone is like this: I played 10 games, won 4 and lost the rest, because there is a lot of effect linked to luck! Current Hearthstone just frustrates me! Before I played YU-GI-OH Master Duel for more than 8 hours, I built 3 free decks and they are not complete, I climbed ranks, I did the missions and I was able to buy 5 packs for free! In YU-GI-OH Master Duel there is deck strategy while in Hearthstone THERE IS NO STRATEGY AND YES, LUCK IS LINKED TO THE CARD EFFECT!! I only played Hearthstone because I played the KONAMI game a lot, so I lost more than I won, because the opponent had more LUCK than me, whereas in YU-GI-OH MASTER DUEL what exists is the deck's strategy! !
Hey HsMathematics, do you need help with subtitles in spanish?
Hi. I add English subtitles to each video and viewers have the option to use the auto-translate feature. Davy wrote to me a while ago and suggested improving the auto-translation for the Brazilian Portuguese language. I can provide you with access to the Spanish translation, but unfortunately I have no way to pay you for your efforts :[
@HearthstoneMathematics I'm no profesional, so I would never expect any pay for it
Been a long time follower Who just thinks it could bring more people or accesibility :)
@@sheda111 Thank you for your interest! I can give you UA-cam Permissions and assign you to the role of Subtitle Editor. This will allow you to add and edit subtitles in the UA-cam Studio section.
Email me at crazymathematician.hs@gmail.com so I can send you a request.
I'm glad i didnt preorder any packs this time
I find that the new approach is good but at the same time I am less interested in the game since years. I find the whole starship mechanic very lame and can't see myself ever becoming excited about it.
I think we play starship wrong. Just looked a game from thijshearthstone and he gets insane value out of it. While I only get a 12/12 minion
I destroyed two epics that I had to recraft 2 days later
Which ones? I don't destroy any card only full dust or if they rotate out
Glad I didn't pre-order this one.
I warned you that warlovk's 3 mana legendary effect was horrible! The worst part was realizing that the warlock's other 7-mana legendary is also bad! Congratulations to the fat game designers for this incredible, terrible work, I used to think it was bad to have to play the season with weak and useless cards, today, I change card games! The competitor's card game is much better! Hugs!!
I got the two worst cards in Golden. Lmao
Such a crap expansion, I was briefly hyped as I get close to the free 50 legendary before remembering of what I have left there's maybe two that aren't entirely crap
👍🏼
Content creators have far too much influence over the game. You should turn to the top players in the world for insight into what requires balancing rather than listening to some content creators that are average players.
if that was true, we would all be complaining about owl druid. A deck that ive played against on ladder zero times.
@@BIacklce You just proved my point. You don't balance games based on what majority of the playerbase (often bad, low ranks) thinks. You balance the game based on power outliers which stand out at higher levels of competitive play. This is how it is done in CS, LoL, Starcraft and any other popular game ever. Your favourite UA-camrs, for the most part are not at the top end of ladder. Could you imagine letting average redditors balance the game? 😆
@@gapslip the 50th percentile of active player seems to be where they determine what needs to be changed historically, at least since crystal core.
This is the worst meta in hs
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Pls, if u want to use ai voice, do it right.