The American Girl Doll Iceberg
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- a simplified "iceberg" approach to the complex lore and background of the American Girl brand. this is my first UA-cam video, i am sorry for how nervous i was and for the unprofessional editing. i tried my best ˚₊‧꒰ა ♡ ໒꒱ ‧₊˚
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**THE CORINNE TAN MOVIE WAS UPLOADED TO HBO MAX AS OF 9/29/23
**I MEANT TO SAY SINCE 2011, WHEN KANANI AKINA WAS GOTY
One of my favorite “fan-theories” within the American girl doll universe is that Maryellen is Courtney’s mom, since they look so similar and the times would line up.
I’ve heard this too! Although I think Courtney’s moms name is different, but i could be wrong
Me too! That makes sense.
There’s also one about Samantha’s grandmarie being Marie grace Gardner!!!
@@P1XLGEMyeah her mom name is Moreen
“I’m autistic, don’t worry, i know all about this” is when i immediately knew to subscribe lol. cant wait for more content ! ❤️ this video is delightful
REAL
i think it is very telling that I was so obsessed with the historical dolls and their perspective movies especially the traumatic backstories and scenes like in Samantha and am now a history major. 8 year old me ate that shit up so much.
omg the same thing happened to me 😂 i was so obsessed with historical dolls & now i’m a history major
i wish i was like that bc im terrible at history💀💀
Yo, thank you for mentioning the Hoffman twins' Judaism! It doesn't get enough representation in fan discussion.
Wait, they’re Jewish?
@@dontmindme.imjustafraidofe9327 yes! They're an interfaith family. Their father is Jewish and their mother is Christian. By Reform practice (which they presumably are) they are Jewish. If I recall correctly, the story opens just after both Hanukkah and Christmas end.
@@zevscozyplace Cool! Now we’ve got four Jewish American girls!🥰
@@dontmindme.imjustafraidofe9327 yes!!!!!! And in order of historical eras, we've got Rebecca Rubin, Nicki and Isabel Hoffman, and Lindsey Bergman. This means three out of four of the characters live within a one year window of each other, what with the new millennium
Did you ever hear about the American Girl Doll Cruise? I was able to go on it when I was younger! It was so cool because you got to meet the authors of the books and they gave out free American Girl doll items (including two dolls)! It was crazy!
Please tell us more
Yes tell moreee!❤
it was insane! they announced the girl of the year to us before they formally announced it to the public! apparently one of the main heads of american girl was retiring that year so that’s why the cruise happened. there’s only one video on pinterest that i could find of the actual cruise activities but it was awesome. we did crafts, had delicious meals, and got free stuff constantly. like every night you would come back to your room and there would be a large amount of gifts (one day a doll bed, the next clothes, etc.) and at the end they announced that we would also be getting a free doll (it may have been 2?) that would be shipped to each of our homes. nothing has ever quite compared to that cruise. i’ll try to find the link to the video! it was years ago but i can’t believe almost no one talks about it.
*update: the video was taken down. there is little to no proof of the cruise but it was on the celebrity eclipse and wasn’t the riverboat one. it was a full length new years cruise! i hope this was helpful:)
I found an informational ad on Google from an American girl fan site. It said it was the American girl 25 anniversary cruise. I found an image of a doll wearing a sailor outfit that I’ve never seen on adult. I’m not sure if it’s with one of the collections or from the cruise. there was also an event in Chicago in 2011 where you could book an hour long cruise have dinner with your doll.
hi everyone! while i was making this video, there are some updates! the corinne tan movie was released onto hbo max and i meant that kanani akina from 2011 was the last goty doc in the line pre-gabriella!
I’m SO glad I’m not the only one traumatized by the Samantha movie sewing machine scene. I was just trying to explain this to my mom. I still refuse to sew to this day because of it.
i love to sew, but i think of that scene every time i do
Same! When she brought it up I was like OH NO IS SHE GONNA PLAY THE CLIP 😅😅😅😅😅 thankful she didn't, none of us were ready!
I worked at an ag store at the time of the body image book stuff. And honestly was happy they didn’t pull the books from our store and we held strong. Were just pulled one by one snd told to not discuss the book with hostile customers. Had some people come in and buy extra copies in support of the issue too
thats wonderful!!
also correct me if im wrong but wasnt the book super bare minimum? it was just like “if you do not feel like your assigned gender consult a doctor” or something along those lines? and parents were mad it told children to speak with a doctor instead of them? like getting to the doctor is implied a 10 year old has to speak to you first 😭😭
I am a MH collector not an AG collector but I find it interesting how both brands really suffered under Mattel in 2015 I think that had something to do with them no longer producing the princess dolls after the whole ever after high/descendants debacle right?
Yeah, Mattel had a deal with Disney for years, but was trying to become more independent and focus on their own. When they made EAH, Disney took that as a slight because they already had contention between each other. And so Disney ended up leaving their brand deal with Mattel and went to Hasbro for a while. Then they released Descendants. But now Mattel and Disney are back together.
It does seem that they’ve partnered back up with Disney as they have the princess doll line going on atm with jasmine, belle, and I think Ariel
God bless that crusty Coconut 🫡 truly god’s strongest soldier
Hi, historian here and AG lover. On BeForever Samantha, that person is CORRECT! it wasn’t until the 1940s where the color dichotomy we know today (pink for girls, blue for boys) was phased in. I still have yet to research a bit more on AG’s version of history but it semi lines up with Mattel in 2015. I had to speak on my namesake character❤
It's true that pink was not a very gendered colour in the 1900s, but I wouldn't go so far as to say it was still viewed as a boyish colour by that point. There are plenty of extant pink girls dresses from the period (although not in a style resembling Samantha's Beforever outfit!) so it wouldn't have been considered inappropriate for Samantha to wear pink. It is funny that they changed her meet outfit to a pink dress though, after Samantha explicitly states she dislikes pink in the books. The reasoning for her disliking it is definitely anachronistic though, as Samantha would certainly not have viewed it as 'too girly'. That was definitely projecting 1980s views onto the 1900s! But I seem to remember that being a reoccurring theme in the AG books, as either Kit or Molly said the same thing
The new GoTY 2024 Lila has McKenna Girl of the year 2012 is all grown up and is coaches gymnastics also have a paradox as well
You know I think it’s so funny that Olivia Rodrigo was the main character in one of the girl of the year movies (if anyone’s wondering, it was the Grace movie)
munching and reliving gay childhood bourgeois memories at 1 am slay you slayed
They don't know they are dolls and they live in a universe where they grow like real people because Lila has McKenna brooks in her story as an adult.
"i'm autistic don't worry i know all about this"
AS A FELLOW AUTISTIC THAT IS SUCH A MOOD OMFG LOL AF 😂
the american girl website games WERE MY SHIT i’m pretty sure i spent two hours a day for a year straight playing those. especially the pet ones !!! i loved the little pet care simulator one especially where you could give them food and toys to play with
I live in Poland and I remember that for years there was an american girl stand in one of the malls in my city. I'm really suprised that it was there for so long, I would've never expected that children in Poland would be that interested in such expensive dolls that are so ingrained into american culture and history. Something like Barbie or monster high are more universal, you don't need to have an extensive knowledge of another country's culture and history.
after the rebrand of 2015 i wrote a hate letter to ag about what they did to julie and they sent a letter back😭
what did they say??
if beforever has 1 hater, it's me.
if beforever has no haters, I'm dead.
(Kit was my first historical doll, and I was heartbroken to see how they were all treated with the supposed "revamp")
this entire video was just me going "oh my god i remember that fucking [blank]"
Good iceberg, but important correction, Lucianne Walkowicz uses they/them pronouns
stan trans icon coconut 🫡🫡🫡🫡🫡🫡🫡🫡
I truly did not realize there was so much to know about American Girl Dolls.... loved hearing all your takes
the samantha sewing machine scene TRAUMATIZED me
I had so much fun working on the thumbnail! Great job Eliza!!
BTW Luciane uses they/them prounons
movies i never see anyone talk about were the grace and mckenna movies. those were a core part of my childhood and maybe its cause im younger, but i loved those in elementary school
Tenney was meant to be should have been the GOTY for 2017. Then AG changed ship last minute cause of the backlash
she american on my girl til i doll
there was a dog grooming game on the website and it was my FAVORITE game
The blast from the past that owl stuffed animal craft kit was. I remember making them, aka my mom sewed them and I watched
i loved agtube so much growing up, specially the series that people made. girloftheyearstudios was the reason i started writting stories. i remember being like 11 and writting a sequels to some of her series that i loved. and agsmiless particularly i think truly ignited my love for ya fantasy at the time, since her series were very obviously inspired by that genre of books and movies. for a cursed little bit of information, i remember once girloftheyearstudios made a livestream (or a call? i don't remember exactly what it was) with some fans where she invited us to be on camera and just chat with her and i got so excited that she picked me. it was kinda like a zoom call to be fair. we started talking about an agsmiless series that she had never watched, so she was completely left out of the conversation during her own stream (call?). i was a kid, but i still feel bad about it to this day and she never did something like that again, sadly.
I'm so glad that AllieCat is getting the recognition she deserves! I've been following her for 5 years now and her content is so good
My favorite thing about the American girl website as a kid was the giving advice section! They had different categories with their own weekly question, like sections for studying advice, ideas for party activities, baby sitting advice, family issues, friendship issues, etc. I don't know why, but I loved it so much. I think being able to have a voice and giving random strangers advice, hoping someone would read it and it could help them, made me feel special and "grown up". Plus I did actually sometimes follow some of the advice that I read too. Who knew that girls aged 8-14 would hold such great wisdom?
that factory scene in the samantha movie awoke my 7 year old brain to class consciousness. i was like "this is so fucked" and when nellie was like "they do a lot of things they're not supposed to" i was like this is so fucked!!!! also uncle gard sexy
I love deep dives like this because I never had an AG doll as a kid, but then I ended up working in an AG store (most fun job in my life so far, I loved piercing their ears lol). It was so interesting to suddenly be thrown into this world and hear from people who have been obsessed with them for YEARS, there's still stuff I don't know
Omfg. I worked in a store too. legit such a great job. But they took me off ear DRILLING duty cause I screwed up and the drill slipped and made this huge line on a 2000's GOTY's face so 😔😭
@@CCaleighC my number one fear was accidentally putting a hole in the face of a doll after somebody already bought it lol 😭
ADDITIONALLY: I REALLY want to hear your thoughts on Felicity, as I never had her/took interest in her. Like, we watched her movie in fifth grade and it was good, but I have no attachment to her. So. I'm down for the sizzling takes!
not a fan, love elizabeth tho
One iceberg thing left out was that they used to have Live Shows at the stores, at least the Chicago one did. Speaking of Chicago I think you meant Pilsen? (Pill-Sen) and to describe it as Dangerous is definitely a stretch. It’s the Puerto Rican neighborhood on the southwest corner. Some parts are pretty nice! But authors hear ‘South Side’ and ‘West Side’ and immediately think it’s the scariest place alive Lmao
I love Marie-Grace and Cecile, I have them both, would love to hear more about their lore🤩
Studying before taking my family to the store this weekend!! I love your 21 eating chips 😂❤
Just so everyone knows, Lucianne Walkowicz uses they/them pronouns! They weren't out at the time of the Luciana drama, so I don't think Eliza was being transphobic or anything, just want it to be known!
I think they should have had an explanation in felicitys story that slavery is wrong but it is hystorically acurate to include slaves in her story. We cant errase the hystory of slavery and it is somthing that should continue to be taught to children. It is not felicitys (a fictonal 8 year old girl) fault that her family owned slaves.
Oh my god, my cousin had the Bitty Twins!! I never liked those things, but she was devoted to them!! I think she named them Billy and Betty
I loved the games on the AG website! I'd make a daily ritual out of baking muffins with Samantha, going to the market with Josephina, playing that bean game with Addy... and I totally forgot about the Jess game!
Also I was waiting for you to bring up the Girls of Many Lands series, their books were my favorite ❤
just hopping in as a chicago gal to comment that the neighborhood marisol was originally from is Pilsen, pronounced "Pill-sen" (like send without the 'd') and not "ply-son." in future vids, esp. when speaking on AG issues that are already controversies and culturally sensitive, would love to see u take the extra time to honor correct pronunciation for Pilsen and Nez Perce instead of just guessing. i still love ur content
JUULie face reveal!! Love the long form video content!!! 💕✨🤍
i don’t know anything about american girl dolls, i just love icebergs and women. i appreciate your dedication to this video! can’t wait to tune in for the next hour 🥰
Doesn’t the Maryellen doll have one leg shorter than the other?
Maryellen was the only doll I had so she’s like the only one I know about and I never really see people talk about the fact that her dog got kidnapped and she figured out who did it
Yes she does have one short leg
I was scared of that part in the Samantha movie too. I need watch the movie many times as a kid, but I guess I closed my eyes or fast forward past that part.
Listen, as a lifelong samantha stan that movie MESSED ME UP. trauma fr, im still scared of sewing machines.
the dolls in the background were absolutely sending me... the titos and smirnoff lmao. real.
BRUH the sewing machine scene also traumatized me 😭😭😭
I have had no connection to AG since I read the books many years ago but I love watching fellow autistic people talk about the things they love so I enjoyed this very much :-)
The anti sematisim is so dumb i dont understand why people dont like jews. Im not a jew but i have always admired the jewish religion and culture. My name is rebekah so i grew up with the rebecca american girl books and i loved her and everything about her.
My favorite AG thing from childhood was the American Girl Mysteries! They were pretty good mystery novels about the Historical Line girls, my favorite was The Curse of Ravenscourt (a Samantha book) and Molly, Kit, Felicity, and I think some others had their own as well. There were also the Mysteries through Time books, which were historical mystery novels about various new girl characters who didn’t have dolls etc
When I first heard about the ag mini house thing I thought it was for the mini dolls lol ❤
i think u might’ve forgotten the truly me american girl online world type game (i forget what exactly it was called but basically i remember my look alike american girl doll had a code kinda like webkins where u brought ur doll to life in a lil world like pixie hollow or club penguin or animal jam n yeah u just like played as ur doll^^) i loved this video tho!!
also as a side note i was soo obsessed with felicity as a kid for the sole facts that we were both horse girls with brown hair and i liked her dress n spunky personality 😭 (read the books n missed the slave references+she was retired by the time i found ag so didn’t see the plantation playset so def not trying to condone those at all, she just lives rent free in a soft spot in my heart especially since i think she’s whose book i saw first/maybe second and who got me into ag in the first place)
the game was called innerstar u
I got my first American Girl doll in the fall of 2000. It was a Just Like Me and I still have her! I got her at the American Girl Place in Chicago. 2 years later I got Josefina and still have her as well.
I’m still salty over the loss of Innerstar University. That was such a great era of American Girl ❤
My partner has the Julie bed and more AG stuff from when he was little at his family's houseand I'm trying to convince him it it will fit in our house!
i was also wearing my TS cardigan while watching this, so i'm already biased in your favour before the video has even started haha
i’d give anything to play the games from their website again!! those were my absolute favorites
This was an autistic hyperfixation for most of my life and this was a refresher on what I’ve missed in the last three or four years which was around the time that hyperfixation ended for me
This video was great! I love AG and love learning more about it that I didn't know
I actually disagree with you that the main political demographic of American Girl customers tend to be more conservative. If you do more further research, you would notice purposeful diverse representation of families rather than the traditional nuclear family as well as topics that are more commonly discussed and relative to more liberal families and upbringings. Also if you are active in the American Girl community over Facebook, a lot of adult collectors tend to lean more liberal whether in the form of a straight person or LGBTQ+ person. I'm not saying there are not more conservative AG collectors, but its interesting seeing them post their opinions disagreeing with the books of character dolls such as Kira, who has two gay aunts, and Julie, whos parents are divorced and she mostly lives with her single mom. Also plus the scandals you mentioned just further proves how liberal American Girl is.
I was 15 when I first saw the Samantha movie and the hand in the sewing machine scene still lowkey traumatized me 🙅♀️🙅♀️🙅♀️ I can’t imagine first watching it as a younger kid.
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Cool topic! Reminds me of the video someone else did on the AG iceberg a few months ago.
Felicity is already retired so she's technically cancelled and she was released In 1991.
NO STOP i loved the old coconut he is so cute who is that??
Uh didn’t Bubble Tea already do this and actually cite their sources? This feels like content stealing.
@@BridgetBrennan-m5m there can be multiple bridget, ice bergs arent a unique concept. take a walk outside.
OMG this brought back so many memories! I had Coconut and I loved her. I also had the body book (as well as a few others), the historical novels, a "just like me" doll, and a set of pajamas!
yes!!! the only part of the samantha movie i remember is that little boy sewing his fingers because it horrified me too! i bring it up all the time and no one else ever seemed to remember it! i feel so much less alone
I really enjoyed this video! ❤ you’re so pretty btw! 😘
off topic from the video but ive seen people use selfie sticks as tripods for their phones and it works pretty well! either way video quality doesn't matter too much, love your content and hope to see more like this ☺️
we don't have this doll line where i'm from (south america), and just now at 20 years old i'm learning about AG and honestly all the dolls are so cute! also is a very interesting idea to make dolls based on historical events (maybe i'm just too much of an nerd lol). Amazing video!
The benefit sale is too much work (according to employees from a woman who I went to the benefit sale with) and they can make money by similar ways. The benefit sale is moving to California.
Who gave the dolls Tito's? 🤣🤣 I was a kid in the 90s, so I remember pouring over the catalogs forever wishing I could get a doll. My grandma was nice enough to buy me one small thing, so I have a Bitty Bear with her little suitcase somewhere in storage. But as an adult with adult money, I now own 4 dolls. I would own more, but Beforever changing the Meet outfits threw things out the window.
you're the instagram girlie, i remember you. i didn't know you had a channel.
i use to follow SO MANY ag meme pages but then i deleted insta and forgot about them but anyways thank you so much for the reminder i will now be scrolling your memes and cackling
Amazing job! Looking forward to seeing more videos from you ❤
she has the right side of her face and a dream
Growing up I remember getting a new doll every Christmas. It started with a my twin doll when I was four, a bitty baby I designed, then Kristen, Josephina, Felicity, and Kit 😭 I wish I realized what a privilege it was to get these as a kid. I still have them somewhere at my parents house, I should find them.
i had the exact same doll as annabeth as my first doll her name was emily
As an American girl doll enthusiast ( I have been obsessed with them since 2013 or 2015 and my main reason was really 2015 because of Grace…and I’m a happy owner of her ), I agree with this iceburg. I love iceburgs
The kid getting stuck the the sewing machine in Samantha’s movie traumatized me so bad. Lit forgot everything else about the movie.
They also had sew your own stuffed raccoons!! I still have mine!!
If American Girl made a doll that's in my likeness I would be over the moon and horned
I use to be crazy about them, living in another country, there where way more expensive to buy! 😂 But loving miniatures watching the catalog online makes me happy! 😂 They starting to sell knock off in my country, but I was a little older to bought them and choose reborns instead.
Never knew much about AG except that a family friend if mine had them growing up and would show me the cool catalogs she would get! Kinda wish I got into them sooner lol
Excuse me?! Tenney is gorgeous! How could anyone think she’s ugly? Honestly, they really should have moved Gabriella to 2018 as, while being a beautiful doll, she was really, really underdone for a GOTY. Tenney, meanwhile, had a whole play set and at least 3 books I think? And if they REALLY needed to make a doll of colour, they could have just made Tenney a doll of colour instead? Without being lazy and recycling a retired doll? Seriously?
Anyway, again with the ugly thing, HOW?! HOW COULD SOMEBODY SEE HER AS UGLY?! LITERALLY EVERY AMERICAN GIRL DOLL IS BEAUTIFUL! Tenney is beautiful and I will not stand for this slander.
i dont own any american dolls, or do i really care about them. but this video was still very interesting! i subbed :) keep it up
anna beth's hair is so beautiful 😍😍
As a former agtuber this video is bringing me back
The Corrine movie was released on Amazon prime and AG just released it quietly
54:21 sorry but anyone having a problem with this cute thing (this 80s doll buying an AG doll in her story) should really start thinking about something else and "touch some grass"... this is called FICTION. It's OK, it exists since a veery long time.
I like the stop motion with the dolls. But the live action moives, but the american girl girl of the year films was 2009 girl of the year, and then the 2012 - 2015 goty moives.
I still have my second generation, Samantha Partington doll. Circa 1989/1990. Given to me by my grandfather and mother. Unfortunately it was the last childish toy. My grandfather gave me since he died two years later. I know women don’t reveal their ages, but being 40 somethingI still have it in a protective case. I’ll never get rid of it. I love this brand I know a lot about it as well.
Awesome video! Just one thing, though! Lucianne Walkowicz is non-binary and uses they/them by the way! The doll's similarity to them and the doll being a cisgender girl has resulted in most people talking about the lawsuit/general conflict misgendering them, which Walkowicz said was one of the very frustrating things about the resemblance.