Simeon ten Holt - Incantatie IV

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  • Simeon ten Holt (1923-2012)
    Incantatie IV : for keyboard instruments (1987-1990)
    Irene Russo, piano
    Fred Oldenburg, piano
    Sandra van Veen, piano
    Jeroen van Veen, piano
    Program note (Dutch): De muzikale procedure kan vergeleken worden met de verschillende drukgangen bij het tot stand komen van een prent in een drukkerij. Worden hier de verschillende kleurgangen de één na de ander opgebracht, zo worden in deze partituur de partijen (de lagen) de één na de ander toegevoegd, cq weggelaten. Alle lagen zijn even belangrijk en voeren afwisselend de status van hoofdzaak en bijzaak, van domineren en wijken, van hoofdkleur en bijkleur, van solist en zwijgen (...). Het moet duidelijk zijn dat we met Incantatie IV te doen hebben met een partituur, die zich afspeelt in het gebied tussen genoteerde en geïmproviseerde muziek. En dat de speler niet alleen iets te doen heeft als er noten staan of zwijgt als er niets is voorgeschreven. De meerduidigheid van de notatie (bijv. ritmisch) wijst erop dat iedere afzonderlijke laag ontvankelijk is voor bijv. doublering of meervoudig unisono, hetzij als hoofd-, hetzij als bijkleuring. - SIMEON TEN HOLT
    Simeon ten Holt was a Dutch composer and pianist. His first piano works reveal the influence of his piano and theory teacher the composer Jakob van Domselaer (1890-1960), who had attempted to translate into piano music the ideas of the painter Piet Mondriaan. In 1949 ten Holt went to Paris and studied with Honegger and Milhaud at the Ecole Normale. He returned to Bergen in 1954 and embarked on his own journey as a composer with his 20 Bagatelles for piano. In the 1950s he sought to escape tonality with the simultaneous use of complementary keys in a tritonal relationship, a technique culminating in the Diagonaalmuziek for strings (1958). The Cycle to Madness for piano (1961-1962) forms the transition to a serialistic period, the results of which can be heard in ..A/.TA-LON (1966-1968), a music theatre piece for mezzosoprano and 36 instrumentalists, where both the notes and the self-invented syllables are conceived as if produced by a computer. He worked at the Institute for Sonology at the University of Utrecht (1969-1975) focusing on electronic sound sources, producing several pieces of electronic music. Although still an advocate of structuralism and atonality in the 1970s, Holt also did the groundwork for the return of tonality in his music.
    Canto ostinato for one or more keyboard instruments (1976-1979) is his major breakthrough as a composer. It consists of repetitive music in which the performers follow their own route choosing the so-called ‘drift parts’ they prefer. The musicians are given the task of determining the total length and the number of repetitions in any performance. Ever since the première of Canto ostinato ten Holt has continued to create this kind of living musical organism, each performance of which produces new sound combinations.

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  • @davewin1792
    @davewin1792 5 місяців тому +4

    You know I have a greater appreciation for his music than ever before. Once you start to listen in to the parts in the background, and the contrast of parts being played strikingly and soft at the same time, sounding electronic at times. He was ahead of his time.

  • @paulwhetstone0473
    @paulwhetstone0473 4 роки тому +12

    Incantatie IV has been the most challenging of ten Holt’s post 1976 works for me to give a listen. The first 40 or 50 minutes seemed drab with thematic material unable to draw me in. But, I stuck with it out of respect for ten Holt and the Piano Ensemble. Surprizingly, after the first hour I started hearing everything that had come before in a new light. I couldn’t stop listening until the end as structural development kept unfolding like a strange and beautiful flower. I look forward to my next Incantatie IV listen.

  • @mandrej
    @mandrej 5 місяців тому +3

    Best music I've heard to date. I get a greater high off this than Canto Ostinato.

  • @blaablaa4959
    @blaablaa4959 6 років тому +14

    This music is so stunning, I can't stop listening it. Then hours after when I started to listen this, I notice that I had been in the same place but still somewhere so far. It is some kind of journey I think.

    • @patarnababan6440
      @patarnababan6440 3 роки тому +2

      Maybe you are reaching Bumi Parahyangan (Land of The Gods). Wanna try some Sundanese Degung Music?

  • @li2323003
    @li2323003 5 років тому +6

    I would never have found this without UA-cam. This is beautiful.

  • @CornemuseMusic
    @CornemuseMusic 9 років тому +7

    Incantatie IV, Canto Ostinato and Lemniscaat together make the perfect trilogy. This is so beautiful.

  • @ondrejnovotny7628
    @ondrejnovotny7628 9 місяців тому +2

    This is too good. I need to hear it live, ideally in some setting that helps the clarity of the tones, Elbephilharmonie for instance.

  • @3daygoaty
    @3daygoaty 7 років тому +8

    Another great artist I never heard of. Credit to the Tube!

  • @helmerbijl230
    @helmerbijl230 9 років тому +8

    Een absoluut meesterwerk van een van Nederlands grootste componisten!!!!!

  • @bhirgpoetree3720
    @bhirgpoetree3720 3 роки тому +2

    it is like a mantra, listen to it makes you happy.

  • @gregorypatriciaandjiyajais8819
    @gregorypatriciaandjiyajais8819 7 років тому +5

    A great composer whose music stands out

  • @aprenderypracticar4973
    @aprenderypracticar4973 4 роки тому +4

    This is a masterpiece

  • @LMPas
    @LMPas 8 років тому +3

    betoverend en verslavend om naar te luisteren

  • @pierre-josephlaurent2389
    @pierre-josephlaurent2389 7 років тому +6

    Superbe musique qui prend le temps dans sa profonde évidente complexité de nous amener très loin

  • @WigbertTraxler
    @WigbertTraxler 6 років тому +12

    I rank Incantatie IV as Ten Holt's best piece. It is incredibly deep and personal music.

    • @foliesamsterdam3836
      @foliesamsterdam3836 4 роки тому +1

      Lemniscaat might be preferable I guess

    • @WigbertTraxler
      @WigbertTraxler 4 роки тому

      @@foliesamsterdam3836 Or Méandres.

    • @richardscrimger3969
      @richardscrimger3969 3 роки тому +4

      @@WigbertTraxler He has something to say and he says it, slightly differently, in a number of pieces. I'm a huge fan of all the works you mention, and more besides. He may not be as 'important' as Reich or Glass or Adams, but he has a quiet luminosity that they sometimes lack (not unlike Part, come to think of it) and has crafted some near-perfect jewels.

    • @WigbertTraxler
      @WigbertTraxler 3 роки тому

      I consider him at least as important as Reich. Adams is king, perhaps. But Glass is dull.

    • @richardscrimger3969
      @richardscrimger3969 3 роки тому +2

      @@WigbertTraxler Glass opened my eyes. I don't like everything he does but he does a lot. Can you be the most famous living 'classical' composer for 50 years and not be important?

  • @nicolienjanssens5050
    @nicolienjanssens5050 8 років тому +3

    Even bezwerend als de Canto. Zo goed!

  • @excelsior999
    @excelsior999 5 років тому +4

    This captivating piece reminds me of the way I felt when I first heard the music of Philip Glass and Steve Reich. It blew my mind, as does Simeon ten Holt's music. I regret that I didn't discover him much sooner. I am assuming that he was on the scene before they were since he was born in 1924.
    Of course none of the composers who write this kind of music like to be categorized as belonging to a "school." Nonetheless I have to wonder which of them could be called the first Minimalist in the Modern Age. The answer that is most often given is Terry Riley. Simeon ten Holt was born eleven years before Riley but I don't know what year he started becoming active on the music scene. I suppose the answer to that question really has to be Erik Satie, no?

    • @VuykArie
      @VuykArie 5 років тому +4

      The first piece of repetitive music by Ten Holt was written in the 1970's, when Reich, Glass, Riley and La Monte Young had already done a great deal of work.
      But already his first piece of music with repeating patterns is different from the American composers; more into the European tradition, more pianistic. ( I also like the American composers. )

    • @paulwhetstone0473
      @paulwhetstone0473 4 роки тому +1

      Vexations, right? Satie was always ahead of the game.

  • @bartmoonen4482
    @bartmoonen4482 9 років тому +3

    Incantatie IV: op 15 april 2015 live door het Rondane Kwartet in kerk De Duif in Amsterdam.

  • @billclarkcomposer7719
    @billclarkcomposer7719 5 років тому +2

    This is my favorite ten Holt piece, and the performance is superb. The performers really outdo themselves, though, around 1:16:30, in the way they put together the "cumulation" at that point. It's inspired.

  • @kourzanov
    @kourzanov 8 років тому +2

    ik vind deze veel rijker dan Canto, in termen van informatieve inhoud en kleur. Bravo, maestro!

  • @ivanajaksic5691
    @ivanajaksic5691 6 років тому +1

    Wow! This blew my mind, I'm in trance

  • @brunosipavicius7867
    @brunosipavicius7867 7 років тому +2

    betonverend lied
    ik hou van te holt liederen

  • @marciovalerio234
    @marciovalerio234 9 років тому +3

    Lindo! A música continua seguindo dentro de mim! Thanks a lot!!!!

  • @Hajnikovmuz
    @Hajnikovmuz 8 років тому +2

    around 1:46:00 - wonderful texture! a welcome change indeed

  • @yinca
    @yinca 9 років тому +2

    bedankt!! prachtig hoor!

  • @MusicscreenBe
    @MusicscreenBe 7 років тому +1

    Brillant!

  • @Tadshikisch
    @Tadshikisch 7 років тому +8

    In the tradition of pure manifestation...

  • @nicolienjanssens5050
    @nicolienjanssens5050 8 років тому +5

    muziek uit de Hemel

  • @brunosipavicius7867
    @brunosipavicius7867 7 років тому +2

    please, can someone translate into English Simeon ten holt programs to his wonderful piano songs? I know almost nothing Dutch, so I can not understand what's written. thanks.

    • @mbart
      @mbart 6 років тому +5

      Attempt to translate the Dutch program note:
      The musical procedure can be compared with the separate print runs needed to make a silk screen print. Like the different colors, which are applied one after another, in this score the different parties (layers) are added / removed one after another. All layers are of equal importance, and have alternatingly the status of main issue and side issue, they dominate and recede, main color and side-color, from solist to silence (..).
      It must be clear that with Incantatie IV we are dealing with a musical score, which occur in the area between written and improvised music. And that the player not only is active if there are notes, or is silent when nothing is prescribed. The ambiguity of the notation (eg rhytmic) suggests that every layer may be doubled eg. or as multiple unison, be it as main or side coloring - SIMEON TEN HOLT

  • @ambrus.orban.3d
    @ambrus.orban.3d 4 роки тому

    Play it parallel with itself with a few seconds delay...

  • @johanneswolfgangkolbneuhau5231
    @johanneswolfgangkolbneuhau5231 5 років тому

    and the caribbean notable character and accent would say heard in a similar manner playing cuban pianists !

  • @sebastianverney7851
    @sebastianverney7851 2 роки тому +2

    I adore all of Simeon ten Holt's music. Yet it seems to be a matter of temperament or something, because one professional pianist friend says she finds it utterly boring. Who's right who's wrong?

    • @josvgorkum7968
      @josvgorkum7968 2 роки тому +3

      Dear Seb, there is no wright or wrong. A piece of music grabs you or it doesn't or only after a few takes. Being a professional pianist has nothing to do with it.

    • @sebastianverney7851
      @sebastianverney7851 2 роки тому

      @@josvgorkum7968 .. Thank you for your interesting reply. Yet I feel it must also be to do with musical education and cultural background. No?

    • @user-lp9qq1ly1w
      @user-lp9qq1ly1w Рік тому

      @@sebastianverney7851 Здравствуйте. Культурный фон и музыкальное образование однозначно влияют. Нашему мозгу нравится похожее, то есть если вы слушаете трек, который имеет схожий стиль и мотив с тем, что вы слущали ранее, то это доставляет "удовольствие" нашему мозгу. На мой взгляд, чтобы слушать Simeon Ten Holt нужно к нему подступиться и подготовиться, например, с помощью музыки Arvo Pärt, которая не настолько минималистична, но это при условии если Вы до этого слушали классику ( академическую музыку прошлых столетий), если же Вы до этого были поклонником эстрады, то и переходным этапом будет музыка, напоминающая чем-то Pop-музыку.

    • @ondrejnovotny7628
      @ondrejnovotny7628 9 місяців тому +2

      @@sebastianverney7851 You will find professionals finding Mozart dull, so one does not need to be too concerned.

    • @sebastianverney7851
      @sebastianverney7851 9 місяців тому

      @@ondrejnovotny7628 thank you 🙂

  • @GreenTea4
    @GreenTea4 3 роки тому

    17:13 so cool

  • @jankehaga8735
    @jankehaga8735 3 роки тому

    Cosmisch, zoals andere werken van hem die ik tot nu heb beluisterd

  • @Hypnosing
    @Hypnosing 3 роки тому +1

    Does anyone know of an alternative recording of this? I would like to hear interpretations of it by different performers.

    • @JarodDCamp
      @JarodDCamp 2 роки тому +2

      If you are still looking for an alternative recording, there is this one: ua-cam.com/video/lkGAdKxAF8o/v-deo.html

    • @Hypnosing
      @Hypnosing 2 роки тому

      Thanks for the link! (That one is sadly still van Veen et al., though)

    • @JarodDCamp
      @JarodDCamp 2 роки тому +1

      @@Hypnosing true, it would be cool to hear another interpretation. I have not heard this from any other performers either.

    • @GinEregMan
      @GinEregMan Рік тому +1

      ua-cam.com/play/OLAK5uy_kAwPkE7niRbs6r4Gnj60QvyVqeF1YGvFg.html
      ua-cam.com/play/OLAK5uy_mawuJVznguTvSTOn2MD1hRw2JoTNAo-OM.html
      ua-cam.com/play/PLGDVduXM7PkRH42gcdLzDI-goAhiTdyzU.html

    • @Hypnosing
      @Hypnosing Рік тому

      @@GinEregMan Thanks a lot!!

  • @sezioneinterdipartimentale210
    @sezioneinterdipartimentale210 5 років тому +1

    Hi, is there a way to download the mp3 files? I'd love to listen to them also when I'm not connected. Thank you.

    • @reedcspurling
      @reedcspurling 4 роки тому +1

      The composer's website has a link to iTunes, where you could purchase the mp3:
      www.simeontenholt.com/webshop/CDsales/IncantatieIV/
      Another option would be to install a browser plugin capable of downloading the audio from UA-cam videos.

    • @attiliomotzovideo
      @attiliomotzovideo 4 роки тому +1

      Thank you!!

  •  5 років тому +3

    46:24

  • @_chary990
    @_chary990 3 роки тому

    17:00

  • @user-xj6qp9dh3t
    @user-xj6qp9dh3t 3 роки тому

    Гиперсоник меня обидел........................................

  • @az0909298
    @az0909298 5 років тому

    ..de aspiratie neigt duidelijk naar latin weet je wel, ga dan!

  • @az0909298
    @az0909298 5 років тому

    ..zo'n grandioze compositie zou niet uit gevoerd moeten worden..

  • @az0909298
    @az0909298 5 років тому

    ..zenuwachtig gezeik over volstrekt duidelijke akkoorden