Could Omni-Man beat Naruto? (Invincible vs Boruto)

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  • @lonkstakes
    @lonkstakes  10 місяців тому +243

    “Look what you have to do to mimic a fraction of my power” - Naruto probably

    • @jigosi8006
      @jigosi8006 10 місяців тому +5

      I don't know if you see this comment, I think Nolan at a mid end is moon level because Mark and Allens clash was able to level the moon, and also Viltrum was stated to be 2x bigger than earth and has a higher gravity.
      And for speed Nolan found the nearest solar system when flying which was 4.24 light years from earth. A calc puts this feat at around 221x faster than light.

    • @kingsansskelton6495
      @kingsansskelton6495 10 місяців тому +6

      You should make a debunk on KAZI's video on Super vs Gt goku.

    • @bobdylan1968
      @bobdylan1968 10 місяців тому +11

      Naruto is factually not even planet level. Not even close. Nolan is SIGNIFICANTLY stronger and numerous times faster than Naruto. Naruto gets walked. Without much effort.

    • @marcierex4547
      @marcierex4547 10 місяців тому +3

      @@jigosi8006 it was stated to be 1.25x not 2x

    • @Replies.Delete.SometimesIDKy
      @Replies.Delete.SometimesIDKy 10 місяців тому +6

      Kaguya alreasy made six spacetimes. This matchup is weird. HST is too much for invincible.

  • @thedredayshow9246
    @thedredayshow9246 10 місяців тому +634

    Talk no jutsu MIGHT work on him. Man's already going through an existential crisis.

    • @teddysama5745
      @teddysama5745 10 місяців тому +51

      It already did, right? Mark used it at the end of season 1 and beat him with it. It was the moment when mark said: “I would have had you dad”. That hurt more than any rasenshuriken imho

    • @calebsolonas6085
      @calebsolonas6085 10 місяців тому +26

      Earthussy strong with the viltrumites

    • @eduardopantoja9115
      @eduardopantoja9115 10 місяців тому +27

      ​@@calebsolonas6085Oh shit, you know what happens in the comic and how quick the Viltramites change after doing the business with the earthlings

    • @pisaschitt787
      @pisaschitt787 10 місяців тому

      ​@@eduardopantoja9115earth pussy got me questioning my loyalty to the empire, grant regent thragg

    • @millgiass
      @millgiass 10 місяців тому +9

      It DID work on him. But only his son could succeed.

  • @tsukune2910
    @tsukune2910 10 місяців тому +381

    I am so happy the power scaling community is starting to realize star level scaling is the most consistent for naruto. A lot of people used to just deny it cause “he’s a ninja” with no counter points

    • @gigawarman12
      @gigawarman12 10 місяців тому +25

      "Ninja" is kind of a moot. That's basically pre-season 3 death battle logic, where they always had ninja combatants win over non-ninja combatants.

    • @ShogunPlasma
      @ShogunPlasma 10 місяців тому +58

      Naruto isn't even close to star-level. Bro, what? Please tell me this is a joke, because I honestly have no idea if you're just joking or something.

    • @LeopardKing-ok7hm
      @LeopardKing-ok7hm 10 місяців тому +77

      ​@@ShogunPlasmaStar level is a low-ball for Naruto. Naruto scales at solar system or possibly even higher.

    • @tsukune2910
      @tsukune2910 10 місяців тому +48

      @@ShogunPlasma dude go away cause I doubt you really even know the franchise all that well

    • @tsukune2910
      @tsukune2910 10 місяців тому +16

      @@gigawarman12 I wouldn’t agree with that. Ninja tactics always are there. From naruto clone tricking people till this day. I mean that’s how he beat pain. Or even naruto and sasuke doing the shrunken trick against momoshiki. In Boruto that’s actually a huge theme. There just really strong ninjas lol. We just follow the series through the eyes a hyperactive child

  • @CasualCasimir
    @CasualCasimir 10 місяців тому +40

    “Because the writers said so” is the worst argument I’ve ever heard

    • @solidwegy61
      @solidwegy61 4 місяці тому +9

      I've been arguing this about Toriyama in Dragonball, but people always say, "If he said it then it's fact" I've countered "No, he has to write it into the story to show it to make it true.

    • @tubathecoolkid6919
      @tubathecoolkid6919 4 дні тому

      thats how supermans fights go

  • @damianmorningstar3150
    @damianmorningstar3150 10 місяців тому +108

    The Invincible Comics are so wildly inconsistent that the fight can go any number of ways depending on how you see it, it can go from Nolan holding up an infinite universe (outlier) to Nolan needing three other people around his own power level to destroy a planet (Outlier)

    • @danielendless
      @danielendless 10 місяців тому +7

      When did he hold up an infinite universe?

    • @gigawarman12
      @gigawarman12 10 місяців тому +27

      ​@@danielendless He doesn't do that himself. He fights a character in a (non-canon) crossover that does, Suprema. Even though they're both made by Image comics, that crossover is considered non-canon.

    • @YungBZ
      @YungBZ 10 місяців тому +3

      @@danielendlessmark also scales to dinosaurus both seem to be equal dinosaurus who managed to kill omnipotus who states he can devour worlds and realities which if he’s not capping that’s universal tier at peak low ball multi galaxy which would still make 0 sense and have to be a bluff because nobody else in the show not even thragg who’s strong enough to beat all 3 of em scales even close to solar or even star🗿

    • @marcierex4547
      @marcierex4547 10 місяців тому +1

      @@YungBZ theres a big problem there tho cause that was before the planet busting feat wasn't it? plus I don't believe omnipotus's durability stays the same when he has less energy

    • @Beam67
      @Beam67 10 місяців тому +3

      omni needing help to destroy a planet isnt an outlier. its literally what happens in his own original story. the only way to get him stronger than that is by applying outside scaling metas, like feats from the animated version, or feats from crossovers, which is disingenuous at best. his most consistent scaling should only be what happens in his original comics.

  • @TheTriangle444
    @TheTriangle444 7 місяців тому +13

    That Naruto-to-Kaguya scaling did not make sense at all. Lol

    • @JustSomeGokuEnjoyer2
      @JustSomeGokuEnjoyer2 2 місяці тому +8

      what about it doesn't make sense? Kaguya has star level attack potency and other characters(like Toneri) are called stronger , Naruto then shows he is stronger than those other characters.

  • @thatguy779
    @thatguy779 10 місяців тому +101

    I think a big part of what colors people’s perception of a character’s powers outside their own world is tone. The reality is that Invincible is just way gorier than most super hero stuff and more shocking than Naruto so people have this perception that Nolan just rips anyone else to shreds

    • @marcierex4547
      @marcierex4547 10 місяців тому +4

      pretty much the same arguement against vegeta vs omni man

    • @thatguy779
      @thatguy779 10 місяців тому +29

      @@marcierex4547 it would be SO funny to see Vegeta like backhand Omni Man once and just throw up after seeing how detailed Nolan’s head exploding would be

    • @vaughnjackson6297
      @vaughnjackson6297 10 місяців тому +3

      There is a good reason for thinking so buddy the scaling between naruto and invincible is far apart .narutos scaling is more realistic compared to invincible comics

    • @marcierex4547
      @marcierex4547 10 місяців тому +4

      @@thatguy779 that would br fucking hilarious

    • @thatguy779
      @thatguy779 10 місяців тому

      @@vaughnjackson6297 ye

  • @Manlker
    @Manlker 10 місяців тому +43

    U should do a video on if the forces of earth in Invincible could survive an invasion from the Frieza Force from the Namek arc

    • @lonkstakes
      @lonkstakes  10 місяців тому +55

      They can’t

    • @Namato360
      @Namato360 10 місяців тому +16

      Bro must HATE invincible 😭😭😭

    • @Namato360
      @Namato360 10 місяців тому +14

      Saiyan saga fodderizes Invincible universe

    • @rewrose2838
      @rewrose2838 10 місяців тому +4

      Could they even survive Vegeta & Nappa ?

    • @TrainerReese
      @TrainerReese 10 місяців тому

      They would literally get soloed by Guldo

  • @lightyoshiman
    @lightyoshiman 10 місяців тому +82

    I think people underrate Naruto's speed as well when he first got his KCM the first thing he did was nearly break kisame's back by moving at near light speed hell both yamato and bee noted that Naruto disappeared and reappeared like a flash of light comparing him to minato bee even mistook it for teleportation and he would later do this on two other occasions when he dodged the raikage's fastest punch and when obito nearly chopped kakshi in half with a large shuriken. In his adult year he fought delta and from boruto and the other's POV Naruto and delta were moving around like two lighting bolt's clashing and Naruto was holding back even just a bit

    • @r.a.s6410
      @r.a.s6410 10 місяців тому +3

      Omniman flew from 1 galaxy to another in 2 weeks. Thats MFTL Speed. He would blitze naruto so hard its not even funny

    • @denobiskenechi1682
      @denobiskenechi1682 10 місяців тому +6

      ​@@r.a.s6410Naruto characters where moving at light speed's when they where kids so u do the maths

    • @tmoney1487
      @tmoney1487 10 місяців тому +2

      ​@@denobiskenechi1682The one naruto character that could move at light speed at that time was utterly broken and considered one of the strongest ninja in the first part of the series. Its not a common feat that characters from the first part can compete with.

    • @tmoney1487
      @tmoney1487 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@r.a.s6410Not to mention hes strong enough he just casually escapes a black hole's event horizon while pushing a space ship full of aliens as well. Naruto gets absolutely shitted on.

    • @bluhmer1990
      @bluhmer1990 10 місяців тому +6

      @@r.a.s6410 Flight speed and combat speed are not the same thing.

  • @dsm2417
    @dsm2417 10 місяців тому +24

    You can make Naruto way faster, as he scales above momoshiki who created all the stars in his dimension and travelled across space to earth which massively faster than light. Naruto is way superior to him and isshiki

    • @Tsuna_Dokkan
      @Tsuna_Dokkan 10 місяців тому +13

      MFTL would be consistent considering he’d be massively faster than he was as a kid keeping up with Haku as he’s moving through mirrors, which is light speed, with a No-Tails Rage amp

    • @AllTheSameSeam
      @AllTheSameSeam 10 місяців тому +3

      Creation is vastly different from destruction, The Supreme kais are behind the creations of intelligent life, planets and all, well, Creation, But are vastly weaker than the main cast of Dragon Ball, Just because you can create something doesn't mean you're strong enough to destroy it

    • @Tsuna_Dokkan
      @Tsuna_Dokkan 10 місяців тому +4

      @@AllTheSameSeam that only matters for DC, not AP, for AP, Creation >= Destruction

    • @AllTheSameSeam
      @AllTheSameSeam 10 місяців тому

      @@Tsuna_Dokkan What's DC and AP stand for again?

    • @Tsuna_Dokkan
      @Tsuna_Dokkan 10 місяців тому +3

      @@AllTheSameSeam destructive capacity and attack potency

  • @The_castaway_Redd
    @The_castaway_Redd 10 місяців тому +7

    Woah I just saw the post about this and when to check your page and it says 11 seconds ago posted,crazy

  • @MoistSock22
    @MoistSock22 8 місяців тому +8

    The scene where Omni-Man is super close to a black hole and then nopes outta there, wouldn’t that place him somewhere in the dbz roster?

    • @smoov0p375
      @smoov0p375 7 місяців тому +9

      Tf no 😂, he didn’t manipulate the black hole he was trying to kill himself tf lol , he ain’t tanking that

    • @tylercafe1260
      @tylercafe1260 6 місяців тому

      DBZ is a whole other level. Like Nolan is just Superhero mutation with Alien Technology mixed in. But DBZ is that + Magic. That's very hard to outclass when supernatural abilities supercede any physical feat. When you try to quantify a character you have to consider everything. Like for example Mufuba being an instant seal for any evil spirit opponent is extremely strong and outclasses any physical feat. It's now supernatural and magical feats. Unless Nolan has shown to know some level of Ki control then it's really not the same. You have to keep that in mind when really looking at these fictional characters. Light Yagami technically outclasses them because of how the Death Note works and characters like Ichigo with his Soul Reaper abilities exist within the Spiritual Realm so if Omni-Man kills Ichigo it doesn't actually stop him. Just a little bit of magic has huge implications.

    • @nagatouzumaki4047
      @nagatouzumaki4047 6 місяців тому +3

      it puts him way above shippuden and as such boruto
      people gonna dislike that cause naruto is their fave
      nobody in boruto has had any feats hence why people still scale boruto as if it's shippuden using all the scenes from shippuden cause boruto has no feats of it's own

    • @mikelbaningo6407
      @mikelbaningo6407 3 місяці тому +4

      ​@@nagatouzumaki4047another d umb invincible fan

  • @Elsa_Jay
    @Elsa_Jay 10 місяців тому +15

    When i see people scale Naruto to Solar System i still remember the Universal Bleach meta, or the fate servants also scaling to cosmic entities. Sometimes power scaling gets so damn weird when we can just say theyre Strong and thats fine too.

    • @nagatouzumaki4047
      @nagatouzumaki4047 6 місяців тому

      boruto characters are street lv

    • @TegaOruma
      @TegaOruma 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@nagatouzumaki4047bro what???

    • @landonaron4103
      @landonaron4103 5 місяців тому

      He has tons of solar system level feats that are consistent

    • @nagatouzumaki4047
      @nagatouzumaki4047 5 місяців тому

      boruto fights are largely street lv what you people even talking about
      isshiki didt do anything solar system lv nor did momoshiki
      delta or shin uchiha
      literally nobody in boruto's 300 episodes even did a city lv feat
      none of the people saying these characters can destroy a country, can even provide a single feat

    • @landonaron4103
      @landonaron4103 5 місяців тому +3

      @@nagatouzumaki4047 you just need to read some data books and do your own research

  • @abdullahsaa96
    @abdullahsaa96 10 місяців тому +18

    Naruto also tanked a beam from Toneri that split the moon

    • @unknodaemon9220
      @unknodaemon9220 7 місяців тому

      Deflected and not in Base form

    • @TheTriangle444
      @TheTriangle444 7 місяців тому

      a hollow moon. thats like cutting the tissue roll tube

    • @unknodaemon9220
      @unknodaemon9220 7 місяців тому

      @@TheTriangle444 and Naruto didn't even do a lot of DMG with his KCM2 punch

    • @nagatouzumaki4047
      @nagatouzumaki4047 6 місяців тому +1

      and omni man survived a black hole
      toneri cut a hollow moon in half and 300 episodes of boruto, it's still the best feat
      so very consistent clearly

    • @TegaOruma
      @TegaOruma 6 місяців тому +6

      ​@@nagatouzumaki4047momoshiki destroyed a freaking solar system what are you talking about?

  • @dedahvsjihad6790
    @dedahvsjihad6790 10 місяців тому +26

    Naruto Can Give Him Sage Chakra To Kill Him For Sure

    • @rhysmendozavilla2378
      @rhysmendozavilla2378 10 місяців тому

      He can’t do that because omni man doesn’t have any chakra

    • @noranradmusic
      @noranradmusic 10 місяців тому +8

      @@rhysmendozavilla2378 chakra can still be channeled into other people

  • @Buster84
    @Buster84 10 місяців тому +12

    Since Naruto is like Solar System level according to this video I’d love to see one with him against Cell since he is also Solar System level iirc

    • @unknodaemon9220
      @unknodaemon9220 7 місяців тому +1

      Wanked at Solar

    • @Kodeuk
      @Kodeuk 6 місяців тому +4

      Cell can go further than solar system with feats. And Naruto is multi solar system or Uni depending on how u scale him

    • @unknodaemon9220
      @unknodaemon9220 6 місяців тому +4

      @@Kodeuk not even 🤣

    • @Kodeuk
      @Kodeuk 6 місяців тому +5

      @@unknodaemon9220 we can debate this on cord

    • @nagatouzumaki4047
      @nagatouzumaki4047 6 місяців тому +1

      naruto is street lv in boruto
      nobody has been able to even show me a single building lv and there's literally 300 bloody episodes

  • @davidwitos3989
    @davidwitos3989 10 місяців тому +22

    Good to see my favorite anime character come out on top and to be frank this was a stomp in Naruto's favor the dude is planet to solar system level while Omni man is on only multi continental

  • @kylemma33
    @kylemma33 4 місяці тому +3

    3:37 You're not resisting earth's gravity...

  • @Redacted_Ruler
    @Redacted_Ruler 10 місяців тому +55

    Omni man throwing himself into the black hole implies that he believe it would have killed him. "The gravitational force at the event-horizon of a black-hole is equal to the Planck force. The Planck force is 1.2 Newtons x 10^44. This force remains constant for all black-holes, regardless of their size or their mass." Conveniently, the largest super novas force is also somewhere around 10^44 newtons of force (measuring these forces in newtons is weird but its the best we can do.) Since both of these forces are solidly solar system level, if we take the solar system level scaling from Naruto, he might just be able to tank the black hole, and fly out of it, which Omni man could not.
    This is just some fun Irl scaling so dont take it as serious fact, im not an astrophysicist.

    • @IchigoKurosaki911
      @IchigoKurosaki911 10 місяців тому +10

      End of series Mark and Thragg who are both massively stronger than omniman are getting near death levels of damage from fighting inside a star. Which is signifigantly less impressive that outright tanking one that's exploding.

    • @Redacted_Ruler
      @Redacted_Ruler 10 місяців тому +7

      @@IchigoKurosaki911 I forget where so don’t take my word for it, but I remember reading somewhere that it wasn’t actually the star that was the problem, it was that the star was damaging them and they were fighting at the same time. Something about focusing smart atom regen. I still agree with you but it’s harder to quantify since we don’t know how much it nerfs they’re Durability.

    • @devilgod4552
      @devilgod4552 10 місяців тому +2

      The gravity at the event horizon of a black hole of one solar mass is 1.6 trillion g(by physics stack Exchange), omni man weight is 250 lb (113 kg), his weight at event horizon is 113×1.6×10¹²×9.8= 1.7×10¹⁵ N, if you consider it as the biggest black hole ever discovered then it reach 1.6×10²⁶ N

    • @marcierex4547
      @marcierex4547 10 місяців тому

      @@IchigoKurosaki911 they did infact nearly die by fighting in that sun for what should be less then 5 minutes

    • @vaughnjackson6297
      @vaughnjackson6297 10 місяців тому +5

      What a load of garbage😂😂😂 so naruto can get hurt by a lighting attack by sasuke which can't destroy the planet earth but naruto is gonna survive a black hole😂😂😂

  • @cjmatrix7366
    @cjmatrix7366 10 місяців тому +11

    Nobody talking about her size dimension is mentioned in boruto episode 24 at 14.10 it is stated to be a parallel dimension which means parallel universe (people who don't know anything about parallel dimensions you can search it on the internet yourself and it is the Universe)..

    • @Jacksonmization
      @Jacksonmization 10 місяців тому +6

      Facts but people don’t like using nobles cause it makes Naruto scaling too high 💀

    • @r.a.s6410
      @r.a.s6410 10 місяців тому

      Nope the Japanese version uses the word Iseakai. Which means other world as in planet

    • @cjmatrix7366
      @cjmatrix7366 10 місяців тому +4

      @@r.a.s6410 isekai means parallel universe or parallel dimension or other world (Go to any Japanese dictionary like jisho and check it for yourself)... But the official translation was "parallel dimension" even English dub it was parallel dimensions

  • @jschannel6319
    @jschannel6319 10 місяців тому +7

    You could use Comp Omni-Man which from what I heard, could get up to Universal if you ever want to put him up against stronger characters.

    • @thebestcakegoku7346
      @thebestcakegoku7346 10 місяців тому +16

      them he has to use comp naruto to be fair

    • @jschannel6319
      @jschannel6319 10 місяців тому +7

      Not necessarily, since Naruto can get to those tiers of power using only the anime and manga (depending on how you interpret some feats and statements.)

    • @measlyhorizon3886
      @measlyhorizon3886 10 місяців тому +3

      i mean yeah but it is non cannon

    • @TheEmperorOfViltrum
      @TheEmperorOfViltrum 10 місяців тому +4

      @@measlyhorizon3886people use non canon feats all the time with Marvel and DC characters and no one bats an eye so we should let it pass

    • @noranradmusic
      @noranradmusic 10 місяців тому +4

      Then you have to use COMP Naruto naturally

  • @sahuanitasahu7696
    @sahuanitasahu7696 10 місяців тому +2

    I love this matchups like you have two people who are strong but are not just super similer

  • @TimXMan1000
    @TimXMan1000 10 місяців тому +39

    Gonna go with Naruto here. Naruto has feats putting him at moon level even if you low ball him. I know for fact naruto is large planetary level and beyond that with baryon mode.

    • @TimXMan1000
      @TimXMan1000 10 місяців тому +6

      Naruto has also dodged light speed attacks 4 different times in the series. Reacted to instant teleportation and can run faster than lightning speed in kurama chakra mode

    • @lucasbroome1048
      @lucasbroome1048 10 місяців тому +4

      Moon level is a tier below Nolan. With the same highball Naruto gets, Nolan also gets to solar system

    • @joshzeke1122
      @joshzeke1122 10 місяців тому

      giant rasengan is capable of crumbling apart mountains, and that's nothing compared to his later Shippuden jutsu. naruto is without a doubt planetary level.

    • @lucasbroome1048
      @lucasbroome1048 10 місяців тому

      @@joshzeke1122 Scaling above mountain doesn't get u planetary

    • @joshzeke1122
      @joshzeke1122 10 місяців тому +3

      @@lucasbroome1048 im just using that at my reference point, giant rasengan is like early-mid shippuden. boruto level is definitely like far past planetary.

  • @jojomcgeehan8308
    @jojomcgeehan8308 2 місяці тому +2

    I will explain why the black hole feat is higher than moon level, it’s called a event horizon which all black holes have it is a point of which the black holes gravity starts to pull you in, its pull is so strong that it pulls in everything not even light can escape and we see Nolan getting pulled in while resisting very easily but if you want to calculate a black holes gravitational pull and event horizon as moon level idk what you’re on

    • @NegaZxyz
      @NegaZxyz 2 місяці тому

      Dude doesn't have a clue about science and is just low balling Nolan because the blackhole "didn't blow up or move" like lol that's not how blackholes work to begin with. To put it into perspective the closest blackhole to our solar system is a mid to small sized blackhole (comparatively to other blackholes) it has 3 million times the gravity Earth does meaning Nolan was pulling away from something 3 million times Earth's gravity IF it was a small blackhole.

  • @okaradragonicsaiyan
    @okaradragonicsaiyan 10 місяців тому +4

    Omnichad is strong, but NaruGoat is Stronger...
    believe it i guess

  • @demo0831
    @demo0831 10 місяців тому +8

    I think the fun parts of your videos, is the lack of inherent trash talk that you see in most other powerscaling youtubers

    • @lonkstakes
      @lonkstakes  10 місяців тому +3

      I appreciate that 😄

  • @flamedomian6889
    @flamedomian6889 10 місяців тому +9

    The black hole feat cant be moon level when a black hole as big as that gets close to a star it gets warped and absorbed apmost instantaneously and omni man was chilling right next to its rings that cant be moon lvl

    • @yeikelamores6085
      @yeikelamores6085 10 місяців тому +2

      Really, moon level is a massive exaggeration, at best it's island to Continental

    • @dariusanderson5557
      @dariusanderson5557 10 місяців тому

      @@yeikelamores6085 Goku would get destroyed by that blackhole.

    • @yeikelamores6085
      @yeikelamores6085 10 місяців тому +1

      @@dariusanderson5557 jajajaja no,Good joke

    • @dariusanderson5557
      @dariusanderson5557 10 місяців тому

      @@yeikelamores6085 It's not a joke. he would.

    • @yeikelamores6085
      @yeikelamores6085 10 місяців тому +1

      @@dariusanderson5557 Black holes at best are solar system level, Goku is massively above that since Namek

  • @Kodeuk
    @Kodeuk 6 місяців тому +1

    The planet busting feat was inconsistent as they needed 3 Viltrumite to destroy a dying planet

  • @masonmcfadden4886
    @masonmcfadden4886 10 місяців тому +11

    Will the invincible show have better feats than the comics potentially.

    • @undeadinside3571
      @undeadinside3571 10 місяців тому +5

      Its mostly the same so far, with only minor differences that havent changed the main story at all (like amber being different, the subway scene, and the guardians dying earlier than in the comics).

    • @masonmcfadden4886
      @masonmcfadden4886 10 місяців тому +1

      @@undeadinside3571 dang

    • @KurosakiNexus
      @KurosakiNexus 10 місяців тому

      and the black hole thing@@undeadinside3571

  • @NeutronC
    @NeutronC 7 місяців тому +1

    Omniman's planet busting is actually a feat while Naruto just scales from other characters not comparable, Naruto's striking isn't star or solar just because he scales above Kaguya Lol, Nolan can bust planets with his physical strength while Naruto has never done anything close to that

    • @Primitivephoenix
      @Primitivephoenix 7 місяців тому +2

      Omni man planet busting feat isn't something he could have done by himself. It took space racer and three other people flying at an exact speed to blow it up

    • @Foggy18
      @Foggy18 Місяць тому +1

      @@Primitivephoenixand planet was only destroyed because they hit a certain point in the planet that caused it to blow up lol

  • @matthewbadger8685
    @matthewbadger8685 10 місяців тому +3

    One thing that I don't like about these kinds of scaling videos, is that even though I do agree that Naruto is probably star level, the evidence provided to support this doesn't seem watertight. For example you don't explain why attack potency equals durability in the Kaguya scaling feat, so it doesn't conclusively prove that Naruto can box at these levels. I find that a lot of DBZ scalers who move onto other series seem to assume the same scaling rules apply, where durability and speed is directly proportional to attack potency, whereas in other series this might not necessarily be the case. Again I don't deny that Naruto is that powerful, I just think the video does a poor job of explaining that through evidence. I'd prefer if during those segments the youtuber explains why the ability to blitz and punch kaguya means that Naruto's durability and attack potency is equal to her attack. Is there any direct evidence that shows that kaguya's durability and speed scales to her energy ball or whatever she's using there?

    • @bowwowww-el1gn
      @bowwowww-el1gn 10 місяців тому +5

      well simply because chakra scales to the user, i think thats just the fastest answer that chakra scales to the user

    • @Redacted_Ruler
      @Redacted_Ruler 9 місяців тому +4

      You can scale Naruto way past Kaguya off of momoshiki.

  • @LucasCosta-io8vr
    @LucasCosta-io8vr 10 місяців тому +3

    Sorry, but no. By feats, Naruto never did anything past Moon level. Kaguya could destroy her core Planet, but she needed all the chakra from the God Tree to do so, which is basically the chakra equivalent of a Planet, so it makes sense. Also, Naruto and Sasuke were never as strong as Kaguya, and even Isshiki was half killed by a Kaguya far weaker than the one they fought.
    So, scaling Naruto to small planet level would already be a wank, let alone large planet level.

    • @watever9162
      @watever9162 10 місяців тому +6

      All that Naruto feat you mentioned is before he had full nine tails and adult.
      All that chakra is hers anyway .
      Naruto or sasuke as adults can easily defeat her alone , but they need to seal her to get it over cuz although weak she is immortal .

    • @Redacted_Ruler
      @Redacted_Ruler 9 місяців тому +4

      “Naruto never did anything past moon level.” What a way to immediately lose all credibility.

  • @naradasmith5039
    @naradasmith5039 10 місяців тому +8

    Nolan by default isn’t light speed, he builds up to light speed over time, an example of this is when he destroyed that planet that invaded earth, they show you him building up speed, also when he fought red rush, he didn’t kill him instantly he had to time his attacks he missed a few hits and red rush isn’t light speed

    • @Mope333
      @Mope333 10 місяців тому +5

      So he’s light speed? Lol

  • @kevand2898
    @kevand2898 10 місяців тому +3

    I thought Naruto was planet level. This was surprising

    • @r.a.s6410
      @r.a.s6410 10 місяців тому +4

      He is moon level. Star level naruto is pure wank from the fanbase

    • @Myimpacts1
      @Myimpacts1 10 місяців тому +2

      He’s a bit above moon level since that was like 13 years ago in Naruto

    • @IrenaA-kk5ml
      @IrenaA-kk5ml 2 місяці тому

      @@r.a.s6410 did you even watch the anime? kaguya manipulated dimensions with stars in them

    • @Burn_FiElD
      @Burn_FiElD Місяць тому

      @@r.a.s6410Ignorant fool

    • @mobarenleidowu1336
      @mobarenleidowu1336 27 днів тому

      ​@@r.a.s6410How? You're massively lowballing naruto. Naruto is solar system or above based on feats.

  • @genericwhitemale9566
    @genericwhitemale9566 10 місяців тому +17

    How is this even a question for people? Omni Man peaks at like Moon Level+ attack potency and durability while Naruto is at minimum star level. The only thing Omni Man has on Naruto is speed which doesn't mean anything because Nolan couldn't hurt Naruto....ever. It'd be like trying to shoot a Tank with a Pistol, it doesn't matter how many bullets you fire, it will NEVER penetrate the armor.

    • @leandrofrancoquintoano9151
      @leandrofrancoquintoano9151 10 місяців тому +4

      Naruto star level? Wtf yamcha is 300000 time stronger

    • @haloplayer439
      @haloplayer439 10 місяців тому +4

      Bruh Naruto barely moon lvl while being generous start lvl is crazy what ap does he have that could blow up the sun or earth plz this is hilarious

    • @genericwhitemale9566
      @genericwhitemale9566 10 місяців тому +11

      @@haloplayer439 you've never watched the end of Shippuden or Boruto then. Naruto scales faaaar past Kaguya at this point and she was capable of blowing up her dimension which contained multiple celestial bodies. Naruto is Star Level MINIMUM.

    • @maxdrags3115
      @maxdrags3115 10 місяців тому

      ​@@genericwhitemale9566 No, you're just an idiot who takes things too literally.
      And don't try and explain anything to me, I have already seen so many videos and discussions on this stuff.
      It is just all hyboling and taking statements too literally.
      Naruto is nowhere near star level, end of discussion.

    • @speeddemon6365
      @speeddemon6365 10 місяців тому +5

      @@haloplayer439bro😭 10 random featless jounin were stated to be able to blow up the moon in the last movie via the clouds super weapon

  • @MrLoops-dq9xt
    @MrLoops-dq9xt 10 місяців тому +13

    Naruto can breathe in space

    • @Tsuna_Dokkan
      @Tsuna_Dokkan 10 місяців тому +1

      Based on what feats? Did he do something like that in The Last? I forgot

    • @gigawarman12
      @gigawarman12 10 місяців тому +11

      ​@@Tsuna_Dokkanhe's fought with Otsutsukis on the moon on two different occasions. One of those instances, he's also backed by his fellow hokage and literally nobody was using any kind of protective equipment or specific abilities to do it.

    • @MrLoops-dq9xt
      @MrLoops-dq9xt 10 місяців тому

      @@Tsuna_Dokkan Yes it was the last

    • @myusername3689
      @myusername3689 10 місяців тому +7

      Man why tf is Naruto fighting in space but Goku can’t fight in space.

    • @darryltorres7302
      @darryltorres7302 10 місяців тому +3

      @@Tsuna_DokkanAlso in the novels, which canon, Naruto flew to a nearby star system to get something the sage of six paths left there. But he had to use his kurama cloak to breath in space.

  • @The_endlessV1
    @The_endlessV1 10 місяців тому +2

    i just thought of another one, based by your own logic and statement juubito aka obito pre-jigen (before jigen) is the fastest character in the entirety of the naruto verse since he speed blitzed kcm minato and naruto.

    • @The_endlessV1
      @The_endlessV1 10 місяців тому

      @Tele..gramLonkstakes no problemo it’s not everyday I get to correct illogically sound children on stupidity

  • @CelestQB
    @CelestQB 10 місяців тому +2

    Great video but cmon now how is this even a question? Naruto absolutely negs

  • @Naassica
    @Naassica 10 місяців тому +5

    Do the Otsutsuki fly throughout the Naruto universe or do they just use Space-Time techniques?

    • @mrfrogtrytospeak6120
      @mrfrogtrytospeak6120 10 місяців тому +7

      They all move by flying in space throughout the universe. Because it took them several years to find the earth to recover the scattered chakra. They can survive in the vacuum of space just like viltrumite. Kaguya found the Earth flying while traveling in space.

    • @TimXMan1000
      @TimXMan1000 10 місяців тому +5

      All the otsutsuki have the ability to fly. They also have space time techniques

  • @assassingamers5188
    @assassingamers5188 10 місяців тому +1

    I'm not a scalling type of guy but that black hold argument made me tilt my head confused
    I understand that standing on Earth's gravity doesn't make you planetary level but, remember standing next to a black hole which has a gravitational force 1000 upon 1000 (if not million?) time of earth is a feat of it's own
    It required endurance I guess? To not to turn into white ring for the black hole
    Then strength and speed to like what? Pull a space ship that looks like 2 to 3 car length and remember, the weight is different since in the increases in gravity
    And the cells in the body thing too, remember a viltrumitecs ( like mark i think? I forget) did survive nuke (or mini nuke?) Which did number on to their cells through radiation which has the same effect of Naruto's rasaygun with wind element so they can resist it then fight ( or until their healing kick in)
    With fire element we need something of sun level temperature so Naruto need that
    Earth element need something with the size more than a mountain
    Water element I feel like it might be same as wind element
    But damaging inner organs do seem a best option
    Also in the giant kurama form while the damage do het increased, its speed dropped ( or at least i didnt see Naruto traveling fast in that form as i aaw it moving slow) and Omni man is very small and speed so he can be very agile here

    • @assassingamers5188
      @assassingamers5188 10 місяців тому

      Hay, I'm just giving my opinion...Never mind if i said anything rude

  • @zarakenpacHidan1736
    @zarakenpacHidan1736 10 місяців тому +4

    How do you not mention that space racer's blast did most of the work in viltrum's destruction?!?

    • @nagatouzumaki4047
      @nagatouzumaki4047 6 місяців тому

      because that would make toneri's one feat look like trash which aint helped when nobody in boruto has no feats
      omni man in five episodes has more feats then every character in boruto's 300 episodes

  • @samina99
    @samina99 Місяць тому

    I hate it when people downplay Naruto in these types of vs videos and vs shorts. Naruto is a beast, and he's very powerful just because Omni man comes from a very brutal series, It doesn't mean he defeats Naruto

  • @Lime-green-death-beam
    @Lime-green-death-beam 10 місяців тому +10

    Naruto is low solar system Nolan is multi planet

    • @Lime-green-death-beam
      @Lime-green-death-beam 10 місяців тому +7

      Also Naruto won’t get blitzed jonnins are lightspeed and Naruto is far faster

    • @marcierex4547
      @marcierex4547 10 місяців тому +7

      multi planet 💀dawg couldnt even blow up 1 planet

    • @GreaterGrievobeast55
      @GreaterGrievobeast55 10 місяців тому

      @@marcierex4547he wasn't at peak yet tbf

    • @marcierex4547
      @marcierex4547 10 місяців тому +1

      @@GreaterGrievobeast55 his best feat is blowing through a planets core that was already damaged

    • @malekith33
      @malekith33 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@marcierex4547and with 2 other viltrumites.

  • @MrGsking12
    @MrGsking12 4 місяці тому

    Sidenote, I think Madra was supposed to be scaled to the same level as NAPA. I seen something in an interview ones

  • @lilomega7390
    @lilomega7390 10 місяців тому +28

    Ppl forget Nolan fought a man who could hold up the infinite universe

    • @MRBass6000
      @MRBass6000 10 місяців тому +3

      Who?

    • @SleepingSoulK
      @SleepingSoulK 10 місяців тому +48

      Thats not canon

    • @lilomega7390
      @lilomega7390 10 місяців тому

      @@SleepingSoulK it is, look it up

    • @lilomega7390
      @lilomega7390 10 місяців тому

      @@MRBass6000 supreme from image comics

    • @jackmakila3776
      @jackmakila3776 10 місяців тому +31

      Thats an outliner though hes not consistently on that level

  • @RacialTen2hn
    @RacialTen2hn 10 місяців тому +2

    naruto ain’t even star level. any feat he has dealing wit moons or planets isn’t even canon. stop with this star level planetary level arguement

    • @yamisukihiro4132
      @yamisukihiro4132 10 місяців тому

      he's solar system

    • @Mope333
      @Mope333 10 місяців тому

      @@yamisukihiro4132Kaguya has a better change at that than him lmao

    • @yamisukihiro4132
      @yamisukihiro4132 10 місяців тому

      @@Mope333 yeah

  • @mikekalengayi9407
    @mikekalengayi9407 10 місяців тому +14

    And a reminder that naruto tanked a clean moon slash from toneri and wasn't even scratched

  • @unclesmugs4552
    @unclesmugs4552 10 місяців тому +1

    Naruto is multiversal end of story,each dimension has multiple stars in them,its shown in a few pannels that there is 1000s of stars in the backround

    • @unclesmugs4552
      @unclesmugs4552 10 місяців тому

      This would be consistent as momoshikis dimension has thousands of stars in the backround also and a supernova

  • @Bell_Cat639
    @Bell_Cat639 10 місяців тому +9

    The black hole feat is more focused on speed and mostly durability rather than AP. He can resist something that can suck light in and resist it's massive gravity which if we take the feat seriously and not just a OP no make sense moment, Naruto doesn't stand a chance against that kind of durability.

    • @Redacted_Ruler
      @Redacted_Ruler 9 місяців тому

      Please look at the comment I wrote.

    • @Bell_Cat639
      @Bell_Cat639 9 місяців тому

      @@Redacted_Ruler Naruto isn't solar system without high balling him. I'm taking the consistent Naruto here which is low star-multi planetary

    • @Redacted_Ruler
      @Redacted_Ruler 9 місяців тому +1

      @@Bell_Cat639 it’s not really a highball. Pretty clear. Kaguya destroys solar system at worst, Naruto gets stronger the. Kaguya. What am I missing here?

    • @Bell_Cat639
      @Bell_Cat639 9 місяців тому +1

      @@Redacted_Ruler that was an attack Naruto just can't replicate in scale. We also don't even knew if kaguya did destroy a solar system all we saw was a star and planet. Being able to beat someone in a fight doesn't mean you can copy their DC just because of that

    • @Redacted_Ruler
      @Redacted_Ruler 9 місяців тому

      @@Bell_Cat639AP is all that really matters here, I dont know why it would matter in a fight with someone like omni man. As for the feat, in the data book its explained that it did have the capability of destroying the dimension.

  • @GrandNightConvoymare
    @GrandNightConvoymare 10 місяців тому +2

    Can you do Goku vs IDW Comics Optimus Prime?

    • @lonkstakes
      @lonkstakes  10 місяців тому +1

      I don’t know anything about IDW prime sorry😭

    • @zander513
      @zander513 10 місяців тому +1

      @@lonkstakesthere fans are toxic goated_convoy things transformers is extraversal because of feats that are 6D

  • @jocoolshow
    @jocoolshow 10 місяців тому +20

    Naruto’s AP scaling ranges from Planetary to Uni+ so he’s other relative to or one tapping Omni Man AP/Dura wise but in terms of speed, Omni Man is so fast that Naruto is never landing a single hit on him

    • @TrainerReese
      @TrainerReese 10 місяців тому +2

      He doesn’t really need to hit him tbh Omni Man would hurt himself trying to hit Naruto

    • @leandrofrancoquintoano9151
      @leandrofrancoquintoano9151 10 місяців тому +6

      Naruto never is planetary level lol vegeta saiyan saga solo him

    • @SuperOmegaBerserker
      @SuperOmegaBerserker 10 місяців тому

      ​. No he wouldn't

    • @EeveetoUmbreon25
      @EeveetoUmbreon25 10 місяців тому +9

      @@leandrofrancoquintoano9151 did you watch the last where base naruto tanked a attack that split the moon in half with a single wave of the caster’s hand? Then did you see Naruto 1 shot that same person with a single punch in base form?

    • @yalexander9432
      @yalexander9432 10 місяців тому +7

      ​@@EeveetoUmbreon25Vegeta nuked a planet with 2 fingers, and the explosion destroyed the planets moon too. Yeah no, Naruto has never seen anything like that lol what a joke

  • @beastvg123
    @beastvg123 10 місяців тому +1

    I mean, if we use Omnipotus scaling we can wank Omniman to pretty high levels, but that's inconsistent at best.

  • @deucehudson4887
    @deucehudson4887 10 місяців тому +17

    Naruto claps and outhaxes

    • @leandrofrancoquintoano9151
      @leandrofrancoquintoano9151 10 місяців тому +1

      Naruto lose in 4 seconds he is max city lever and omni is stronger and faster

    • @malekith33
      @malekith33 10 місяців тому +4

      @@leandrofrancoquintoano9151 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @leandrofrancoquintoano9151
      @leandrofrancoquintoano9151 10 місяців тому +1

      @@malekith33 kishimo say that only a nappa claps all of naruto

    • @malekith33
      @malekith33 10 місяців тому +4

      @@leandrofrancoquintoano9151 dude, imma be honest, u barely know anything about the naruto verse if ur actually serious. I'm really serious, u should research more.

    • @leandrofrancoquintoano9151
      @leandrofrancoquintoano9151 10 місяців тому

      @@malekith33 sasuke lose his rinnegan agaist a kunai WTF AND HIS FIGHT NARUTO VS SASUKE BOTH NEVER MAKE SOME STRONGER THAT CITY LEVEL HOW NARUTO HIS PLANETARY?

  • @elijahhutcherson6290
    @elijahhutcherson6290 10 місяців тому

    3:27 the only reason I would disagree on that is because a moon would pe damn near instantly spaghettified that close to a black hole

  • @Idk4x
    @Idk4x 10 місяців тому +5

    Omni man is planet level

    • @Mope333
      @Mope333 10 місяців тому

      Exactly, Naruto not even that

  • @db_sithlordhada7487
    @db_sithlordhada7487 10 місяців тому +1

    I think they believe he wins because they do a bit of a better job show casing the lvl of destruction they can cause. Naruto more so focuses on skill and technique over raw destructive capabilities

    • @Mope333
      @Mope333 10 місяців тому +1

      Then wtf can that do to Omni-man? Lol

    • @Nigsta
      @Nigsta 10 місяців тому +1

      @@Mope333Hax such as Dura neg, not to mention Naruto has regen and he regenerated from destroyed organs as a 13 year old but basically he explains Naruto has far higher AP and AP = DC

    • @Mope333
      @Mope333 10 місяців тому

      @@Nigsta Buttt Omni-man stronger than any opponent Naruto faced

  • @kingkoltron857
    @kingkoltron857 10 місяців тому +5

    In my opinion nolan is far faster then Naruto since he was able to fly from earth to thraxa in about to weeks which makes him significantly faster then light. So in my opinion it would be a stalemate since omni man can't harm Naruto but Naruto can't touch omni man so then why doesn't omni man out right win. Simple in the invicible series when a character strikes someone vastly more durable then them selves there body gets annihilated on contact and I think this is most likely what would happen if omni man tried to punch Naruto so it ends in a stalemate because omni man is faster but can't harm Naruto or he'll kill himself by fighting till he is nothing but small little chunks or he just simply leaves

    • @AFed69
      @AFed69 10 місяців тому +4

      Naruto is significantly ftl too, even edo madara was reacting to light speeds before he cast edo tensei on himself

    • @darryltorres7302
      @darryltorres7302 10 місяців тому +4

      Naruto actually performed a similar feat in the light novel where he flew to a nearby star system. Momoshiki is also able to move interstellar distances in a short time frame and Naruto was blatantly stronger than that Momoshiki.

    • @malekith33
      @malekith33 10 місяців тому +3

      Nah naruto is also mftl.

    • @leandrofrancoquintoano9151
      @leandrofrancoquintoano9151 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@AFed69light speed? No one of naruto have light speed

    • @Jsipki265
      @Jsipki265 10 місяців тому +10

      @@leandrofrancoquintoano9151 So you blatantly haven't read/watch the series then.

  • @Ihatepual295
    @Ihatepual295 29 днів тому

    Unless naurto has Massively Faster then lights speed feats he’s not touching omni-man and gets speed blitz by him and tosses him into the sun before naurto even blinks or could say shadow clone jusu

  • @BCCSquidward
    @BCCSquidward 10 місяців тому +8

    Huh? This sounds pretty close 🤔

  • @SquidBerry
    @SquidBerry 10 місяців тому +1

    I kinda wish you broke down Naruto’s side more cause I feel like Nolan is a lot faster than Naruto and I actively wanted to hear more about Naruto’s AP more

  • @wiilee7346
    @wiilee7346 10 місяців тому +7

    Yo bro can you find like at least one matchup for the invincible verse that isn’t just a blatant stomp in the other characters favor bro cause this shit is just getting sad
    Edit: Would just like to make it clear that I’m not saying this to dis the video.I did enjoy it, I’m just saying that it would be more interesting if it was a more fair match up

    • @marcierex4547
      @marcierex4547 10 місяців тому +2

      raditz vs invincibles brother

    • @Tsuna_Dokkan
      @Tsuna_Dokkan 10 місяців тому +2

      That’s why I’m saying Mark vs Boruto

    • @malekith33
      @malekith33 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@marcierex4547oh that should be interesting.

    • @speeddemon6365
      @speeddemon6365 10 місяців тому +3

      @@Tsuna_DokkanBoruto is stronger than Naruto, he annihilates mark😭

    • @Tsuna_Dokkan
      @Tsuna_Dokkan 10 місяців тому +1

      @@speeddemon6365 current Boruto is, but Pre Timeskip isn’t

  • @a-kil5646
    @a-kil5646 10 місяців тому

    People like to hate on talk no jutsu but All it is, is philosophy💀 however he has to beat the villain physically first.
    Saitamas black hole feat also is wayyyyyy more impressive

  • @lazerbreaker4758
    @lazerbreaker4758 10 місяців тому +18

    He blitz and out strength naruto but naruto has more skills and abilities

    • @gentlepeeps3351
      @gentlepeeps3351 10 місяців тому +26

      Naruto should be physically more impressive casually blocking and punching moon sitting attacks

    • @rlserik3751
      @rlserik3751 10 місяців тому +13

      Huh?? Naruto attacks potency is way higher den omni man , he’s just faster den Naruto, n imma give him his credit where its due because im a naruto fan but im not bias.

    • @Trashiemoviestar
      @Trashiemoviestar 10 місяців тому +4

      @@rlserik3751hes faster but not by much. considering naruto is considered faster than the 4th who used LITERAL teleportation in the form of ryjin, speed scaling is either closer than you think or completely higher than nolans

    • @TimXMan1000
      @TimXMan1000 10 місяців тому +4

      Base Naruto has 3 feats of dodging literal light speed attacks in the retsuden novels, He wouldn’t get blitzed.

    • @lazerbreaker4758
      @lazerbreaker4758 10 місяців тому +1

      @@TimXMan1000 he only dodge normal light speed while nolan travel faster then kight speed millions of time faster then light speed

  • @TheRealMan_EmperorHimself
    @TheRealMan_EmperorHimself 4 місяці тому

    5:30 yeah but then when Nolan fought the guardians he still got touched so I'd say there's something else going on there

  • @Cipher_Paul
    @Cipher_Paul 10 місяців тому +4

    Why did you scale Omniman resisting the gravitational pull of the black hole instead of scaling him pulling the spaceship away from the black hole?

    • @lonkstakes
      @lonkstakes  10 місяців тому

      That’s what the calc is from. It’s moon level at best.

    • @aAaa-gj1lh
      @aAaa-gj1lh 10 місяців тому +1

      @@lonkstakes Blackholes SWALLOW ENTIRE SOLAR SYSTEMS, calling it "moon level" is a disgusting lowball

  • @megakazuya123
    @megakazuya123 10 місяців тому +1

    1) Omniman cannot beat Superman, I am so tired of weebs thinking that every person with a cape and super-strength is Superman. Superman would kill Omniman like a fly, the gap between them is so large that it's hilarious.
    2) Naruto can -- in no way -- beat Omniman. Omniman is absurdly faster, stronger, more intelligent, better trained and more durable.

  • @nuclearwaste2062
    @nuclearwaste2062 10 місяців тому +4

    A lot of naruto scaling metas come from not understanding the manga and straight up mistranslations from amatuer translations.
    For the kaguya thing, she was only able to create the gudoudama from the chakra of the entire shinobi alliance. Team seven never tanked that attacked.
    So neither kaguya nor team seven would scale to it.
    And her dimensions were called 空間. Go look at the kanji on her feat. 空間. Thats kuukan. That means space, room , or airspace.
    She never mentions 時空間. Thats jikuukan. That means spacetime.
    This is important because the difference between destroying her entire dimension vs destroying just the planet on it is huge. Thats planet level to universal.
    And that becomes problematic because thats too big of a jump based on a shared feat anyway.
    And even the databook only considers kaguya a threat to the planet.
    _____
    And this is not the only mistranslation either. These fan translations of the novels are ridiculous. They use the word 星, hoshi, that can mean star or planet. But when the novel talks about people living on a hoshi, fans translate that as people living on a star.😂 so momoshiki destroyed the star people lived on.😂
    Anybody with some basic knowledge of Japanese knows that the planet translation makes more sense.
    And there are other mistranslations in the databook as well, describing boruto characters splitting the "planet". When it really says they split the earth, as in ground.
    ____
    And im not trying to downplay naruto, but mistranslations are mistranslations. And those are factual, not based on powerscaling but on the Japanese language.
    And this happenes in other franchises to, notably dragonball, tons of mistranslations in there. But the biggest thing going for dragonball is that it has multiple feats to back it up. So even if you dont want to consider the world of void infinite (though thats not a real mistranslation), there are other showings that say the universes are infinite. And kid buu destroying 100s of planets or stars tracks either way. Especially in the anime where he straight up destroys galaxies.😂
    And thats the biggest problem with naruto, he lacks feats. His best feats are moon level. Granted before he loses kurama he gets much stronger. Ill even say planetary. But this star level stuff and beyond are based on mistranslations. And not only that but its never repeated. Its an outlier. Even in the current boruto manga, we only see vaguely planetary feats.

    • @r.a.s6410
      @r.a.s6410 10 місяців тому +1

      Cook bro they aint gonna like this

    • @Shaka_TM
      @Shaka_TM 10 місяців тому +2

      What about when 20 Cloud Jounin were used to power a weapon to destroy the moon while Naruto multiplied 1000~ Shinobi to 3 or 4 times that of Kakashi’s chakra with only one half of the 9 tails in KCM2. Doing the math on that he should be significantly above moon level. Oh and how about the tears in space and time that were created by Naruto and Kurama simply existing? What are your thoughts on that?

    • @nuclearwaste2062
      @nuclearwaste2062 10 місяців тому +1

      @@Shaka_TM I already said he can have planetary. He would scale to that anyway just through time. The databook even describes kaguya's dimensions as 世界 (sekai). This can mean world, society, or yes, universe. But consistently world makes more sense. Especially backed by her calling it a "space". And it's consistent through the series.
      As for naruto and kurama tearing space time by merely existing, that was never stated in the manga of naruto or boruto. And if it was stated in the novels I bet 空間 was the kanji used and not 時空間 . It comes back to consistency. And there are no feats in the manga that suggest these characters can destroy universes, or even stars, as those statements are based on mistranslations of 星 (hoshi).
      And do you know how many earths can fit into our sun? 1.3 million.
      Naruto can be 1 millions times stronger than he was as SO6P and still wouldn't be star level. And it's a real stretch to claim he got that much stronger in baryon mode and throughout the boruto series before he got baryon mode.
      ____
      Furthermore,
      Jigen/isshiki was defeated by kaguya. And was even burned by a jiraiya clone. And this kaguya didn't have all of the shinobi alliances chakra to power her up. And it was retconned at this time that chakra existed before the otsutsuki. So she was actually weaker here than she was on earth.
      Which makes sense for planetary scaled beings. I mean kaguya got sealed in a moon and died. For a universal being that can't break out of moon really puts a nail in the coffin for that idea. And seals can be broken out of via raw strength. We see this as early as the original naruto: orochimaru resisting his own seal from the 3rd hokage. And madara using his susano to break out of gaaras seal.
      ______
      Naruto has plenty of moon level feats and scalings to back this up as a teen. It takes 50 moons to fit inside planet earth. He would be planetary before he even reached hokage. The issues are the scales that reach above that.
      I mean in the current boruto manga, naruto and sasuke are practically dead. They are nerfed and out of the story. Boruto is the new main powerhouse. And he already used a vaguely planetary feat to nearly kill code, someone who scales above the likes of naruto and sasuke. Thats recent proof of a planetary feat and scalings of current characters.

    • @mustardwithglasses6508
      @mustardwithglasses6508 10 місяців тому

      @@nuclearwaste2062 how about momoshiki eating stars?

    • @mustardwithglasses6508
      @mustardwithglasses6508 10 місяців тому

      @@nuclearwaste2062 also, goku ain't outer just to confirm. Bunch of wank

  • @demontrekunjan4635
    @demontrekunjan4635 10 місяців тому

    Who also say this about comics and all fictional characters within their verse that’s what they’re capable that doesn’t mean they can go into someone else’s verse and be that Superman is only the star and main character of his verse so the plot drives and moves around Superman, and that goes for any character in any other universe. That’s why it’s always left up to who’s writing the story.

  • @lucasbroome1048
    @lucasbroome1048 10 місяців тому +7

    It seems Invincible is getting more respect nowadays finally. But I really don't get the Naruto star level thing came from. It seems to have been a thing in the fandom for the longest time. Anyways, with fair scaling, Nolan beats Naruto mid diff

    • @G3xay
      @G3xay 10 місяців тому +1

      Facts, Naruto is nowhere near star, small planetary at best

    • @bowwowww-el1gn
      @bowwowww-el1gn 10 місяців тому +3

      so do you guys just ignore the video..he clearly explains that narutos ap would scale to kaguya since shes capable of destroying a dimension that holds a star, and ap = dura within the verse so naruto would have star lvl+ lvls of ap which exceeds ANY of omnimans stats
      lets not talk ab momoshiki creating a universe tho

    • @lucasbroome1048
      @lucasbroome1048 10 місяців тому +2

      @@bowwowww-el1gn Capable of destroying something doesn't prove anything. She can do it over time. For instance, didn't she need to drain chakra in order to destroy a planet? As for Momoshiki creating a universe, what so he can blow up a universe? I didn't know Bob The Builder would be building level
      That's also ignoring that Omni-Man has his own scaling that gets him to planet, star, and even universal if we highballed for both verses. Nobody in Naruto has shown the ability to blow up anything larger than mercury in one attack

    • @Basketballplaye
      @Basketballplaye 10 місяців тому +1

      @@lucasbroome1048 If he built it wouldn’t that mean he would not hie to destroy one? Are you acoustic?

    • @lucasbroome1048
      @lucasbroome1048 10 місяців тому +3

      @@Basketballplaye Building something doesn't mean you can destroy it, hence my Bob The Builder reference. And I don't know what the heck "acoustic" means as a description

  • @MrGsking12
    @MrGsking12 4 місяці тому

    I always interpret them going through the planet as I’m just creating a bigger shockwave so they could get a bigger explosion not that they need three of them to destroy it but it’s been a while since I read the comic

  • @danielkiely3988
    @danielkiely3988 10 місяців тому +3

    Omni-Man flies multiple times faster than light, Omni-Man could kill Naruto and his entire trash verse easily.

    • @christianrowe992
      @christianrowe992 10 місяців тому +5

      Its been shown they're combat speed is drastically slower than they're flight speed as a race

    • @danielkiely3988
      @danielkiely3988 10 місяців тому +1

      @@christianrowe992 true, but if people say that Broly is faster than Jiren which he obviously isn’t, then Broly would be slightly faster than MUI Goku.

    • @christianrowe992
      @christianrowe992 10 місяців тому +3

      @@danielkiely3988 ok I'm sorry but im confused as what your implying lol? But your correct in your hypothetical

    • @danielkiely3988
      @danielkiely3988 10 місяців тому +1

      @@christianrowe992 I know lol, I just really like Jiren and I think people low-ball him due to Broly’s popularity.

    • @christianrowe992
      @christianrowe992 10 місяців тому +1

      @@danielkiely3988 yeah I agree it was just random lmao so I was a bit caught of guard but yeah jiren is a boss

  • @sharifbrown3567
    @sharifbrown3567 10 місяців тому +2

    I like your content.

  • @surrealcemen6744
    @surrealcemen6744 10 місяців тому +2

    Professional goon solos both

  • @mustardwithglasses6508
    @mustardwithglasses6508 10 місяців тому +1

    Lmao I knew it. Omni man D riders mad

  • @masonmcfadden4886
    @masonmcfadden4886 10 місяців тому +4

    In my opinion I think luffy has a chance against comic omni man 🤷

    • @wolog1454
      @wolog1454 10 місяців тому +4

      absolutely not. luffy would get murdered on the spot. They both have punch and kick fighting, omni man just hits 100x harder and 100000x faster

    • @jackmakila3776
      @jackmakila3776 10 місяців тому

      @@wolog1454 omni man is a physical brawler and luffy is immune to physical damage
      -Idiots

    • @gigawarman12
      @gigawarman12 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@jackmakila3776Luffy isn't immune, he has high resistance to blunt force. One of the only characters shown to have the physical strength to be able to hurt Luffy (pre-timeskip at least) without Haki was Garp.

    • @darryltorres7302
      @darryltorres7302 10 місяців тому +1

      Yeah, maybe. But I think Omni Man has the advantage in stats. Luffy isn't completely immune to blunt forces but he does have a high tolerance to them. The problem is that Omni Man's strength is so fast and strong that his chops could at like the blade of a knife and severely hurt Luffy and I don't think is as fast that he'll dodge a grab from Omni Man and chuck him into space.

    • @planetbirthday6859
      @planetbirthday6859 10 місяців тому

      Luffy also has scaling that's in the planet to star range so it could be a good match up, though I don't recall if this channel ever did a Luffy scaling video

  • @CptAhab-cg6ku
    @CptAhab-cg6ku 10 місяців тому

    Space racer or whatever his name is also shot at the planet along with Nolan, Mark, and the older guy and his gun is probably the strongest thing in the verse, able to casually one shot characters on a level that almost resembles actual durability negation

  • @enma8441
    @enma8441 10 місяців тому +4

    Omni man rips through all forms of Naruto

  • @kennethrobinson9829
    @kennethrobinson9829 10 місяців тому

    I was the 1k like for this video. Remember me.

  • @Andrew-Bastin
    @Andrew-Bastin 10 місяців тому +7

    This is why I don’t take power scaling seriously, it heavily relies on interpretation and is often influenced by the biases of the one scaling them, for example all of Naruto’s higher scaling is heavily reliant on how you interpret Kaguya’s powers and abilities as no other character has displayed that kind of power.
    Also if you’re going to determine Naruto’s power by scaling him to Kaguya it’s only fair you do the same for Omniman by scaling him to Surpreme.

    • @gigawarman12
      @gigawarman12 10 місяців тому +12

      His fight with Supreme is from a non-canon crossover.

    • @Andrew-Bastin
      @Andrew-Bastin 10 місяців тому +3

      @@gigawarman12 it’s canon to the Image comics universe which the Invincible series is a part of. Although your comment does prove my point about biases and personal interpretations heavily influencing power scaling.

    • @gigawarman12
      @gigawarman12 10 місяців тому +8

      @@Andrew-Bastin even getting into realm of it being canon (which is actually acknowledged as not being the case by Image comics themselves), we could just as easily also start getting into ratty higher end Naruto stuff.

    • @Andrew-Bastin
      @Andrew-Bastin 10 місяців тому +3

      @@gigawarman12 which further proves my point, power scaling is heavily dependent on interpretation and bias, that what you get when you try to quantify franchises that are incredibly inconsistent.

    • @yusifudo46
      @yusifudo46 10 місяців тому +7

      ​@@Andrew-Bastin I don't think you get it. When power scaling, no matter how much bias is present, the source *MUST* be considered canon by the source material, otherwise it can't be used, unless you say otherwise from the start.

  • @denzeljohnson9994
    @denzeljohnson9994 10 місяців тому +2

    Even without sage of 6 paths even in base his energy casually split the moon at that point thousands of clones hitting om with moon level attacks will be enough to kill omni man especially since reanimen and the gaurdians gave him trouble both of which naruto solos

    • @EdmundiumHitting
      @EdmundiumHitting 10 місяців тому

      Bro skipped to the end and ignored every point lol

    • @Mope333
      @Mope333 10 місяців тому

      Lmao what? Naruto is losing

    • @Mope333
      @Mope333 10 місяців тому

      Also that moon was fake

  • @filipcesnjak2944
    @filipcesnjak2944 10 місяців тому +7

    Why is this fight eaven a thing ... Omni man with Thadeus and Invincible destroyed a planed with one unch, nobody in Naruto has that kind of power, not to mention that Viltrumites can travel faster then light and can endure space conditions (extrime cold, gravity pull, radiation). Only chanse Naruto characters have is genjutsu, they can use a substitution jutsu and genjutsu ti trap Viltrumites if they can react in time, if not they are history.

    • @rohanthomas6629
      @rohanthomas6629 10 місяців тому +9

      Naruto is like Solar System level lol. They are finished

    • @filipcesnjak2944
      @filipcesnjak2944 10 місяців тому +3

      @@rohanthomas6629 😂🤣😂🤣

    • @_B4nk
      @_B4nk 10 місяців тому +3

      just watch the video instead of saying nonsense

    • @filipcesnjak2944
      @filipcesnjak2944 10 місяців тому +4

      @@_B4nk you fanboys only see one side, the side you like

    • @rohanthomas6629
      @rohanthomas6629 10 місяців тому +3

      @@filipcesnjak2944 The video already confirms this lol. Also TSO negs lmao.

  • @dxrkskies3872
    @dxrkskies3872 10 місяців тому

    0:50 I thought he was going to say Boruto’s dad

  • @MrCraftyScales
    @MrCraftyScales 10 місяців тому +3

    Your example for the black hole and it's lower interpretation doesn't make sense, As Nolan at times was right close in front of it and was completely unfazed by the GBE of it, Are you trying to give the example it's like you resisting the pull of Earth is completely undermining what a black hole actually does It's not like a planet, As it's using its own spaghettification or suction capabilities to take in more mass forcefully and the fact that he was able to just chill and resist it is a much higher feat than "moon" lvl, as Just the black hole a size of a quarter has the mass of a planet

    • @PenguinSage
      @PenguinSage 10 місяців тому +9

      The gravity of a black hole does nothing special compared to everything else in the universe. Black holes are not vacuum cleaners that suck things in. They have no "spagettification or suction" abilities special to them. Things fall in the exact same way other objects around large bodies do. Matter that nears large degenerative masses do experience more tidal forces due to the density, but said forces are not even that wild.
      The only difference is how densely packed the mass is, which causes a black hole to have an escape velocity greater than the speed of light at the event horizon. In fact, the space around bigger black holes are less dangerous because the difference in their tidal forces between an object and the singularity is far greater.
      Black holes of near any mass can exist, because it is not size that makes them, but density. Any mass outside of the event horizon will not need to move faster than light to escape.
      Noland was floating around the accretion disk, which notably, is not inside the event horizon. Thus has an escape velocity slower than light. Even then, the escape velocity for a black hole is not it's surface gravity, which is what would be resisted. For a character who can easily travel MFTL, it is not strange the pull would be effortlessly negated.

    • @marcoslightspeed5517
      @marcoslightspeed5517 10 місяців тому +3

      ​@@PenguinSagebody that fraud

  • @mazingg2367
    @mazingg2367 2 місяці тому +2

    Star level scaling 💀 9:59 bro can’t be serious rn

    • @Foggy18
      @Foggy18 Місяць тому +1

      Then disprove him then

  • @1297skypred
    @1297skypred 7 місяців тому +7

    Comparing Naruto to Solar system or planetary level is crazy cream glazing. The delusion anime bias never fails lmao. Superman beats Goku and Omni Man SPITES Naruto

    • @Kodeuk
      @Kodeuk 6 місяців тому +2

      Naruto is multi solar possibility uni. We can debate this

    • @1297skypred
      @1297skypred 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Kodeuk I do not care to and will not because his apparently multi solar highly omnipresent crazy beefed Goji outerversal ass gets clapped by all of DC Marvel and other. And Goku kicks his ass too. And Omni man kicks his ass on any given weekday. Power scalers are high as hell especially when you deal with something as inconsistent as anime. Naruto is a great character and I am a fan but the glaze is in itself outerversal lol. So nah you good, I won’t care for whatever debate you have here. I watched every episode twice over. He doesn’t bust the solar system bro bro

    • @Kodeuk
      @Kodeuk 6 місяців тому +2

      @@1297skypred he scales off of Kaguya who created 6 solar system size dimensions

    • @notcensored3917
      @notcensored3917 5 місяців тому

      @@1297skypred literally the most simplistic scaling on the planet "she make solar system, she can destroy solar systems so she's solar system level" and we still have ppl complaining lmfao

  • @alphadestroyer3028
    @alphadestroyer3028 10 місяців тому +1

    Would you be willing to do a part 2 of this with composite versions of both characters ?

  • @GFCOLCQuote
    @GFCOLCQuote 10 місяців тому +3

    I think Omniman can win, but it's not an easy win. He has to actually get his hands on the real Naruto, and just fly into space. If he could blow up his planet, Frieza style, then he could win because Naruto dies in space and he does not.
    But in a fight? No.

    • @traxlion159
      @traxlion159 10 місяців тому +3

      Naruto can breath in space... Have you ever watched Naruto 😂😂😂

    • @noranradmusic
      @noranradmusic 10 місяців тому

      @@traxlion159 ong none of these niggas actually pay attention to the lore 🤣

    • @Mope333
      @Mope333 10 місяців тому

      @@traxlion159nope

    • @Mope333
      @Mope333 10 місяців тому

      @@noranradmusiche can’t

    • @lightninggaming016
      @lightninggaming016 10 місяців тому +2

      @@Mope333yes he can lmao you seen he was on the moon surface with no atmosphere no other suit just his normal shit

  • @ramikla_146
    @ramikla_146 14 днів тому

    What if Slenderman was in anime

  • @danielcain8136
    @danielcain8136 10 місяців тому +4

    Naruto: Nah I'd win

  • @demontrekunjan4635
    @demontrekunjan4635 10 місяців тому

    Anyone saying that either of them get stomped is ridiculous people saying that Superman stomps Naruto is ridiculous when he has troubles fighting characters weaker than Naruto, who don’t have as much versatility or uniqueness or unpredictable fighting style I am not saying Naruto will have a chance against Superman before people just say it’s a walk over that’s ridiculous Superman fights beings that are continental and be in his ass whooped or hit by a nuke and needs to sun bathe and has to come back a little more serious, or a lot more serious, and then wins. That doesn’t mean they don’t break the threshold of what he’s holding back and injure him and maybe put him unconscious or something of that nature I believe Naruto is full well capable of injuring the man of steel now killing him and beating him are two different stories. Maybe the truth seeker, or could actually go right through him, and it bypasses physical properties automatically just like in the series of Naruto. If it does, that’s something that could kill the man of steel but other than that he has nothing unless he knows something like the reaper death seal. But just damaging injuring it’s possible not killing him though not thru injury. Clark holding back. This is a chance Clark coming in blood lusted like injustice version. He’s going to win the fight low difficulty maybe mid difficulty if Naruto goes to Baron mode. Then I think is leaving out injured, but with the victory. For all those saying that Clark is going to stop just remember he fought weaker opponents and had harder times. In character, nature of holding back is why characters have a chance against him. Now this is like Superboy prime who don’t give a fuck that’s a different story. He thrashes the verse with possibly being only three techniques in the verse that could possibly kill him

  • @Airhead2099
    @Airhead2099 10 місяців тому +10

    Boruto ruined the franchise

    • @speeddemon6365
      @speeddemon6365 10 місяців тому

      The scaling he used was in shippuden!

    • @Airhead2099
      @Airhead2099 10 місяців тому

      @@speeddemon6365 wdym I never mentioned him talking abt it in the vid

  • @linkeastwood3283
    @linkeastwood3283 4 місяці тому

    The better question is, can Naruto talk-no-jutsu him?

  • @5ko631
    @5ko631 10 місяців тому +4

    First

  • @The_endlessV1
    @The_endlessV1 10 місяців тому +2

    bro theres no way your said that naruto is light speed at bare minimum. thats a logical fallacy simply due to the fact that his most popular speed scalings come from his kcm 1 form, by your logic six paths naruto is as fast as kcm 1 naruto, no actually even better you believe that the raikage is as fast as fused momoshiki, so by your logic six paths madara is faster than fused momoshiki and kaguya because madara was the one who took out the raikage, actually even better by your logic killer bee is faster than base momoshiki, kaguya, six paths madara and toneri. bro come back when you actually know how to scale speed, your saying that teen naruto scales to adult naruto in speed which also means that kcm gives you the same stat boosts as six paths. the more you think about it the more of a reach it becomes. bro do your research properly.

    • @lonkstakes
      @lonkstakes  10 місяців тому

      Thats not what "bare minimum light speed" means. I say that because I don't believe you can reasonably quantify how much faster later forms of naruto are compared to ones that have light speed feats. Hope this helps.

    • @The_endlessV1
      @The_endlessV1 10 місяців тому

      @@lonkstakesyour opinion is a logical fallacy because base naruto was able to keep up with fused momoshiki, not base momoshiki, fused momoshiki, meaning you believe that adult base naruto is just light speed meaning you also believe that the raikage is faster than base momoshiki which also means you believe that minato is faster than base momoshiki since minato is much faster than the raikage in his kcm form which also means that juubito is faster than base momoshiki and scales to fused momoshiki in speed. Please make it make sense for once. You literally have characters from the war who scale above the raikage in speed so using him as a medium for Naruto is a huge fallacy because your statements contradict feats and scaling within both boruto and shippuden

    • @The_endlessV1
      @The_endlessV1 10 місяців тому

      @@lonkstakes if Naruto was at bare minimum light speed he would automatically lose to momoshiki, toneri and kaguya because the same would happen to minato and the raikage.

    • @The_endlessV1
      @The_endlessV1 10 місяців тому

      @@lonkstakes no it doesn’t help, use the right scalings, if you are unable to find scalings for higher levels of power then you can just say mftl plus and leave it there. Your statement doesn’t change the fact that it’s a logical fallacy. Ima call you out right now, from 6:15 of your video you said you think that Naruto has the hardest highballs and lowballs then you say that both the scalings drastically misinterpret the scaling of the series and what’s shown in both guides and manga, yet you just admitted to lowballing Naruto’s speed, that’s the definition of a hypocrite. At least sound logically sound and give us good scalings and feats.

    • @lonkstakes
      @lonkstakes  10 місяців тому

      @@The_endlessV1 If I say something is the bare minimum I'm acknolwedging the capacity to reasonably scale him higher 💀

  • @JPARnum1
    @JPARnum1 10 місяців тому +9

    Obvious win for Naruto, he is about as strong as Perfect Cell and could even beat Majin Buu with his Barrion Form. It would have to be Invincible (after defeating Thragg) to match him.

  • @iloveapple530
    @iloveapple530 10 місяців тому +1

    If Naruto isn't nerfed, then I think he could beat Omniman.

    • @B_Random
      @B_Random 10 місяців тому

      how

    • @iloveapple530
      @iloveapple530 10 місяців тому

      @@B_Random Goudo damas, that literally it. Omni man can't destroy them, i also believe that naruto can survive 1 or 2 hit.

    • @B_Random
      @B_Random 10 місяців тому

      @@iloveapple530 in the show, it took “quantum bombs” to kill Omniman. These bombs also took out all of the continents of Europe in the process. Naruto’s tailed beast bomb is like at most city level 😂. Even then omniman is still faster and could easily literally rip him apart like he does with beings even more durable than Naruto in his show.

    • @iloveapple530
      @iloveapple530 10 місяців тому +1

      @@B_Random you can only destroy Goudo damas with nature Chakra, if omni man tries attack them they will destroy his soul.

  • @Primeking2345
    @Primeking2345 10 місяців тому +5

    Naruto claps

  • @Marisa_arts
    @Marisa_arts 2 місяці тому

    Naruto from the hit anima Burrito?!

  • @bobdylan1968
    @bobdylan1968 10 місяців тому +6

    Naruto is FACTUALLY not even planetary. Idk what you people are on. No, hes not star level. Jesus. Thats insane. Genuinely the worst power scaling I've ever heard in my life.

    • @lonkstakes
      @lonkstakes  10 місяців тому +8

      What was wrong with what I said

    • @bobdylan1968
      @bobdylan1968 10 місяців тому +5

      @@lonkstakes name a single feat he ever does that's planetary. Name one. And ignore the fact he's been downed by Village destroying attacks.
      Literally in the borutos movie, how does he go down?? Lol. It's from an attack meant to destroy the village. Not a planet, not a star, a village.
      What about his fight with jigen? Where's the planet busting? Lol. Where's the planet destroying attacks? Literally nothing on that scale. No one does anything on that scale. Even Naruto and sasukes most powerful attacks at the end of Shippuden, aren't even COUNTRY level.
      The most we have EVER gotten, was Naruto taking a hit that cut the moon. And even then, that was just a super long beam sword, not some massive explosion that destroyed the moon.
      Never has Naruto done anything remotely close. Ever. And Naruto is not faster than light. How did we KNOW this?? Because he gets blitzed by teleportation. If he was that fast, teleportion at that distance would not matter.

    • @lonkstakes
      @lonkstakes  10 місяців тому +6

      @@bobdylan1968 Attack potency and destructive capacity aren’t the same thing. And light speed is not as fast as teleportation. Hope this helps.

    • @iv2joshuamaraj475
      @iv2joshuamaraj475 10 місяців тому +1

      I agree tbh

    • @Jsipki265
      @Jsipki265 10 місяців тому +2

      @@bobdylan1968 Get in his server and debate it then.

  • @YourExGranPappi
    @YourExGranPappi 10 місяців тому

    Invincible vs “Boruto” in the title is so disrespectful. At least keep the conversation canon.