PS5 Pro Has Its Own 'DLSS' Solution - What We Know So Far

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  • @marklarz4399
    @marklarz4399 6 місяців тому +158

    Finally 8K gaming... upscaled from 360p

    • @zerus4435
      @zerus4435 6 місяців тому +14

      PS5 Pro or PS6 will destroy PC Gaming. The difference will be minimal.

    • @theboy2777
      @theboy2777 6 місяців тому

      @@zerus4435LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Bro PC is always years ahead . You console boys are true idiots . We are on RTX 4090 now which KILLS anything a console does .. shi even a 3070 beats console . By the time PS6 comes out there will be 5000 series GPUs that will be even faster. You console boys are true yappers I swear

    • @aniak2359
      @aniak2359 6 місяців тому +14

      What matters is the actual image quality as we perceive it, not numbers on a chart.

    • @tablettablete186
      @tablettablete186 6 місяців тому +8

      360p? That's too high, the best we can do is 144p!

    • @hihihi1q23
      @hihihi1q23 6 місяців тому +7

      @Prep84 It's been true for a while. Most developers don't even bother optimizing for PC anymore.

  • @darthniloc6099
    @darthniloc6099 6 місяців тому +7

    If PSSR is as good as DLSS then this technique could help the PS5 pro run a game like GTA 6 at 60fps with it rendering in 1080p and it using PSSR to upscale it to a 4k, but will have to see how the PSSR implementation really is when it’s released.

    • @michaelbracken9585
      @michaelbracken9585 6 місяців тому +1

      X doubt, the cpu is only getting a minor clock bump, doubt it will be enough to hit 60, rockstar is likely targeting 30fps on base ps5

  • @Dalamain
    @Dalamain 5 місяців тому +2

    PLSS would have been a better acronym

  • @socalju2447
    @socalju2447 6 місяців тому +1

    On one level this is super in-depth. On another level this is super dumb. Fight me.

  • @aingerugonzalez9614
    @aingerugonzalez9614 6 місяців тому +20

    Amazing, how to do a video knowing nothing, the technology is not out, you cant test it, or see how it works, noboby from sony or playstation has done nothing similar of what Mark Cerny did with the road to playstation video ( trying ti esplain it simple for people with some knowlege) and here we are again, same with the GTA VI video (knowing nothing about what rockstar is going to do with 30 or 60 fps) making assumptions.

    • @Fusion05
      @Fusion05 6 місяців тому

      Since your comment is pretty incomprehensible, I'm gonna try to assume part of it.
      This video is from their podcast thing they do weekly, however just one part of it. It's already recorded, might as well post it.

    • @gothpunkboy89
      @gothpunkboy89 6 місяців тому +2

      @@Fusion05 This might be a clip from their weekly podcast show but they are correct. They are making a whole lot of assumptions based on very little knowlege. Not even a "(insert developer) working with this has told me it does X and Y"

    • @hoodrich902
      @hoodrich902 6 місяців тому

      ​@@Fusion05 admitting you cant comprehend his comment just makes you look stupid.

    • @SpecialEllio
      @SpecialEllio 6 місяців тому +2

      ​@@gothpunkboy89well yeah, its almost as if its a discussion and not a news report

    • @gothpunkboy89
      @gothpunkboy89 6 місяців тому +1

      @SpecialEllio Within the first few minutes, you have someone trying to explain what it does. Without knowing anything about it.
      It is one thing to talk about what you want it to do or be capable of. It is another to launch into an explanation without having any hands-on experience or word of mouth from someone who has hands-on experience.

  • @jackdaddypfc
    @jackdaddypfc 6 місяців тому +3

    I like the DF guys but Alex really has something niggling him about Sony that just shows through.
    Get that.. but PC is ahead of the game. It's not a competition.

    • @melxvee6850
      @melxvee6850 6 місяців тому +4

      His elitist side is showing, he probably hates consoles in general cuz he's always showing distaste

    • @fcukugimmeausername
      @fcukugimmeausername 6 місяців тому

      That's why we like him 😁😁

    • @Decadent_Descent
      @Decadent_Descent 6 місяців тому

      @@melxvee6850Can't blame him, really.

    • @melxvee6850
      @melxvee6850 6 місяців тому

      @@Decadent_Descent unprofessional sadly, if you start choosing sides, it'll also pour into your work and he might even start unprofessionally reviewing games, we all watch DF because they are the neutral middle ground for all gamers alike despite of platform, we expect fair criticism, not favoured criticism

  • @markstech3812
    @markstech3812 6 місяців тому +1

    Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on FSR 3.1.

    • @Wedge_The_Almighty
      @Wedge_The_Almighty 6 місяців тому

      Me too. Seems like a huge step up from FSR 2.2 (The Upscaler side). I’d like to upgrade many games FSR implementation because FSR is honestly so bad at the moment with shimmering and specular highlights. In games like The Last of Us Part I, downgrading the game to FSR 2.1 actually makes the game look better despite the ghosting.

  • @geogadget1
    @geogadget1 6 місяців тому +15

    Alex really hates Sony and the PlayStation. He can’t hide the face of disgust when he starts to talk about anything they do. Looking like a miserable Fu$&. He forgets that the PlayStation is a console in where Sony tries to give the most to the consumer while trying to stay affordable. He fakes that he knows more than he does. He’s just mad that he can’t figure out how the brains at Sony can engineer a box with lower specs on paper and yet look and perform better than the other box and most low to midrange rigs.
    The engineers at Sony are geniuses. Before the start of the PS5 DF were talking crazy about how the frequency this and wattage that and the megahertz this… then they had to eat everything when the benchmarks showed that games ran better on PS5.

    • @kraithaywire
      @kraithaywire 6 місяців тому

      Remember to wipe your mouth when you get off your knees, that Sony D must be really good for you.
      And no, at no point it looked like Alex 'hates' PS5 or Sony lol. You're just miserable.

    • @liquid1514
      @liquid1514 6 місяців тому +3

      has he been like this for a while?

    • @TheBeanfinite
      @TheBeanfinite 6 місяців тому +3

      i think he's hot and based

    • @reddrascal0124
      @reddrascal0124 6 місяців тому +6

      Yeah I've kinda noticed that too he really has little time for the playstation as is generally very dismissive of anything they try and do

    • @melxvee6850
      @melxvee6850 6 місяців тому +8

      ​@@reddrascal0124it's the PC elitist mindset, those Fanboys always talk trash and discredit anything console does, they the type of people to be happy if anything goes wrong with console gaming
      The worst kind of community

  • @smilereceive
    @smilereceive 6 місяців тому +1

    Sony used this tech for movies for A LONG TIME. This is nothing new.

  • @fearless_tr
    @fearless_tr 6 місяців тому +4

    720p premium gaming

  • @anthonyayre2910
    @anthonyayre2910 6 місяців тому

    Pro is xbox x 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @hiawa23
    @hiawa23 6 місяців тому +24

    After your last video about the Pro CPU not giving a big enough increase, you almost talked me out of getting it.

    • @Tavayneparkins
      @Tavayneparkins 6 місяців тому +2

      Yeah don't have a pc but I started looking

    • @sizablekoala6879
      @sizablekoala6879 6 місяців тому +8

      If you're someone that has a fancy 4K TV and NEEDS the best resolution, then maybe the PS5 Pro is worth it. But if you have a good enough PC, already own a PS5 Amateur, and/or don't have or care about best 4K graphics, then it's probably not worth it.

    • @fcukugimmeausername
      @fcukugimmeausername 6 місяців тому +13

      Wait for reviews and benchmarks of the Pro before buying IMO.

    • @scottd7222
      @scottd7222 6 місяців тому

      ​@sizablekoala6879 Psvr2 is big what if for pro as well. Can Sony extract more out of the HMD in particular GT7.

    • @Mcnooblet
      @Mcnooblet 6 місяців тому +5

      It really shouldn't be that big of a factor. The difference between fidelity 30fps vs performance 60fps mostly comes down to GPU and having to lower the work of the GPU to get to 60fps. I think the CPU is more than capable of 60fps for regular raster. RT on the other hand, who knows how implemented that will really get. I bet it will be watered down, used in minor ways just to claim a game uses ray tracing.

  • @Withing_
    @Withing_ 12 днів тому +1

    PSSR! PISSER! It's called PISSER, how could you not bring that up! Smh

  • @bigboulder
    @bigboulder 6 місяців тому +4

    So Sony is fully imitating dlss. All hail mighty Mark Cerny XD

    • @elitebeing21
      @elitebeing21 2 місяці тому

      Its not jusr dlss. Fsr as well

  • @Joeybatz33
    @Joeybatz33 6 місяців тому +6

    Wicked PSSR for the win

  • @ZTriggerGaming
    @ZTriggerGaming 6 місяців тому +2

    FSR is a total loss imo, destroying the image quality of recent games. DLSS looks pretty good to me though. If they can replicate NVIDIAs upscaling in some way, that would be tremendously helpful.

  • @PejicVladimir
    @PejicVladimir 6 місяців тому +1

    Dont you think it`s a little concerning that you just talk and speculate about the thing you yourself say you dont know what it is, and news outlets are spreading this like a definitive thing?
    I stopped watching your main channel because it was ruining my own perception of games, I over analysed everything I saw, couldnt enjoy the games at all ...

  • @arashnonexistent9033
    @arashnonexistent9033 6 місяців тому +1

    milk youtube views with nonsensical chatter about rumors and speculations

  • @squintps
    @squintps 6 місяців тому +41

    Maybe this pisser will get us Bloodborne 4k/60.

    • @brandonphilander661
      @brandonphilander661 6 місяців тому +5

      You've been watching PuertoRock77 I see.

    • @RandomGamingMoments925
      @RandomGamingMoments925 6 місяців тому

      It's upto Japan Studio/FromSoftware really

    • @squintps
      @squintps 6 місяців тому +7

      @@RandomGamingMoments925 Not really, Sony owns the IP. Japan Studio is no more, Sony shut it down. Miyazaki basically said it's out of his hands and he's waiting on a sign from Sony.

    • @durrutino
      @durrutino 6 місяців тому

      If the leaks are correct, a priori PS5 Pro with PSSR would reach 4K at 120fps and/or 8K 60FPS, including RT. And this is data with previous native PS5 games, not PS4 games like Bloodborne.
      Normal PS5 could already run Bloodborne from Ps4 at 60fps without problems.

    • @TheRamboss
      @TheRamboss 6 місяців тому +3

      Nah, it’s going to be a PS6 title.

  • @KaiSchSp
    @KaiSchSp 6 місяців тому +16

    Could this be something that can be applied to games like FF7 Rebirth, that don't have access to FSR, because they are running on an older UE4 version?

    • @sizablekoala6879
      @sizablekoala6879 6 місяців тому +1

      I'd imagine it could as that potential conflict with FSR wouldn't be there. I'm wondering if games that use FSR like FF16 would need a Pro patch then. We'll have to wait and see. Though I imagine some like Cyberpunk will get a Pro patch as that fits with how they manage their games like Witcher 3 with PS4 Pro/Xone X.

    • @anthonyrizzo9043
      @anthonyrizzo9043 6 місяців тому

      I dont think it matters if fsr is there or not, it would just require the developer to go back and patch it in, in either scenario

    • @jbway86
      @jbway86 6 місяців тому

      ​@@anthonyrizzo9043 if they squeeze in extra 250MB footprint.

    • @jerepursiainen5750
      @jerepursiainen5750 6 місяців тому +1

      They just said it. If developers want add it To their games its just some simple file you need To get in the game an woila rebirth blurry graphics looks crisp as fuck

  • @AJJJ-co2vd
    @AJJJ-co2vd 11 днів тому

    I'm excited for the pro games are going to look great on my OLED. I would like Dolby vision gaming and free sync support would sweeten the deal

  • @brandonlee7382
    @brandonlee7382 6 місяців тому +11

    Really appreciate what you guys do!

  • @filippobargagna
    @filippobargagna 6 місяців тому +1

    I guess they're doing something with a 2d transform, probably looking at phase and module of a fourier transform of the image?

  • @xorrior4438
    @xorrior4438 6 місяців тому +4

    WANT IT!!! I would love to play FFXVI again at a more stable FPS.

  • @pgr3290
    @pgr3290 6 місяців тому +30

    Microsoft really got owned this generation. They were desperate for the fastest hardware, but ultimately Sony's design was cleverer to the point the on paper differences are meaningless on screen. Microsoft thought they should have a cheap SKU to also attack PS5 on price as well as performance, but what they ended up with is an anchor console that restricts development to a lower bar. Unless they release a THIRD even faster SKU confusing the market more Sony end up with the most powerful console anyway that fits neatly with their 'base' machine.

    • @kenroyforrester156
      @kenroyforrester156 6 місяців тому +2

      Too bad they lost 10b

    • @RandomGamingMoments925
      @RandomGamingMoments925 6 місяців тому +7

      ​​​@@kenroyforrester156Too bad Playstation gamers care more about the product they're getting than how deep Sony's pockets run

    • @nihilityjoey
      @nihilityjoey 6 місяців тому +3

      Utterly wrong. The series X is a better machine than the ps5, and before this Sony fans didn't care about the power right?. Ps games are not that much better than Xbox ones, in fact they are a match in some areas. But the machine itself is a better machine with better features.
      If Microsoft wanted to play the power crown and keep up with Sony, they could, and Sony would go bust. Sonys vr unit is slowly, and silently being scrapped, and they pulled from releasing a top end oled this year. Things are getting tight. This is a move they know their apple like fan base they have will lap up. "Look we have most powerful console now". The series consoles are gems of machines, and Sony fanboys can say what they want, whilst spending money on a remaster machine. Mental.

    • @liquid1514
      @liquid1514 6 місяців тому +4

      @@nihilityjoey no game's🤨😬

    • @nihilityjoey
      @nihilityjoey 6 місяців тому +2

      ​@@liquid1514No games???? Let's take my ps5. Finished god of war, last of us and horizon. What's left for me to get exited about? What new games are they making? Halo was a great game, Forza is better than GT, in the way that counts....a SIM, and it runs fine on console, which is PlayStation's competition. Gone back and played gears 5, stunning game, I play mfs, what's on playstation to compete with that? And a whole host of game pass games. And they've bought a load of studios. Xbox future is looking very bright iAnd like I said it's more powerful than the ps5 and has features that simply out do the ps5. Games and how good they are, is a matter of perspective. Drakes fortune and the last of share very similar game mechanics, most Sony games do, that's not innovation.
      But enjoy your new remaster machine. I'll stick with the generation I have, and wait for Microsoft to AGAIN beat Sony at console design.
      Sony "we believe in console generations". Yah right.

  • @eday2448
    @eday2448 16 днів тому

    true 8k gaming for $700 maybe???

  • @melxvee6850
    @melxvee6850 6 місяців тому +5

    I love how everyone speaks like they are console engineers trying to the the Pro won't do this and that as if PCs separate components are the exact same as an x86 APU
    Especially the PC elitist fanboys who still game on a 1080p60 monitor
    Cope

    • @iSteveGWT
      @iSteveGWT 6 місяців тому +1

      Have fun over there on console 😂

    • @melxvee6850
      @melxvee6850 6 місяців тому

      @@iSteveGWT cope Soyboy, that laughing emoji represents your inability to articulate an actual reply, humble yourself lol

    • @clockworklegionaire2135
      @clockworklegionaire2135 Місяць тому

      Hello peasant

  • @Liesday
    @Liesday 6 місяців тому +3

    Perhaps that's the reason why the CPU doesn't get a substantial improvement, they hope to compensate for it with the GPU using upscaling.

  • @RandomGamingMoments925
    @RandomGamingMoments925 4 місяці тому

    Jedi survivor could hit 60 with multiple RT effects and PSSR upscaling to 1800p. Would be awesome really.

  • @my_name_les
    @my_name_les 6 місяців тому

    "don't worry about the game optimization, we'll just use an AI upscaler to barely hit 60fps" - Lazy Devs

  • @mloclam6917
    @mloclam6917 6 місяців тому

    They are leapfrogging the ps5 as the ps5 was held back by the ps4, thus they've not pushed the base machine

  • @keflas3842
    @keflas3842 6 місяців тому

    Children in the comments 😂 who woulda thunk

  • @nicogreen-oy8cu
    @nicogreen-oy8cu 6 місяців тому +2

    I love my ps 5 slim I want upgrade because it's all next gen

  • @electrikoptik
    @electrikoptik 6 місяців тому +16

    Xboners are coping hard after DF's video on PS5 pro.
    PS5 Pro will be the definitive way to play GTA6 on console!

    • @kenroyforrester156
      @kenroyforrester156 6 місяців тому +5

      Yeah 30fps 😂

    • @donperion5000
      @donperion5000 6 місяців тому +2

      It might be the definitive way to play.....at 30fps..... Until the PC version drops. They tricked us with 120fps and 8k marketing on the box the first time, lets not get tricked again.

    • @jcdenton8750
      @jcdenton8750 6 місяців тому +3

      @@donperion5000 Very few PC gamers will be able to run GTA6 at 60fps at high resolution with decent quality settings. Let's be honest. The most used GPU on steam is the 3060.

    • @RandomGamingMoments925
      @RandomGamingMoments925 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@donperion5000They never "tricked" anybody. Microsoft wrote "Native 4K gaming" on their page, so they're guilty, but Sony never said that. The HDMI 2.1 spec supports 8K60 and 4K120, everyone blew that way out of proportion.

    • @donperion5000
      @donperion5000 6 місяців тому

      @@jcdenton8750 that's why I got a 4090 because I know the next few years will be crazy with game spec requirements. Just sucks that we need to spend that much to HOPEFULLY secure 60fps.

  • @philharrison2991
    @philharrison2991 6 місяців тому +3

    Let's focus less on tech and more on making more enjoyable games

    • @worldstarkeys8328
      @worldstarkeys8328 6 місяців тому +2

      my guy this is a tech channel... why are you here if you don't like tech analysis.

    • @Luke973T
      @Luke973T 6 місяців тому +1

      They don't make the games so this comment is asinine.

  • @mauroenemy6369
    @mauroenemy6369 6 місяців тому +3

    From what I've seen about the Ps5 Pro, it seems like it will just improve the resolution or ray tracing of the current performance mode. Do you think the PS5 Pro will just be an upgrade for those who play performance mode on the base ps5? I wish the Ps5 pro had its own fidelity mode at 30 fps but with better graphics than the base model. I wanted something like the difference in graphics on the PC, from high to ultra, 4k on high would be the base ps5 and the ps5 pro being 4k on ultra in comparison. I'm not saying it that would compete with the ultra graphics on pc, but rather, between the two ps5 models, if it is possible a visual diference in that level, between playing everything on high and playing on ultra. For those who prefer fidelity mode at 30 fps, won't be worth buying the PS5 Pro? The only graphical improvement would be 2 to 3x better ray tracing? and for games that may not use ray tracing. Like Ghost, Tsushima 2 or Horizon 3, wouldn't there be an improvement in fidelity mode for these games? The fidelity mode will look the same in both ps5 and the pro model? It would only have a difference in the performance mode? Can you pls explain more about this? I want to understand it better

    • @timholloway8821
      @timholloway8821 6 місяців тому +4

      I assume with the only 10% cpu boost it seems like framerate may not be helped much unless the pssr allows a lower resolution to be uoscaled and allows more of the CPU to be used. I'm curious to find out how good this pro will be though.

    • @mauroenemy6369
      @mauroenemy6369 6 місяців тому

      ​@timholloway8821 Same, I was more sure that I wanted to buy this model, but with so much conversation behind this, I m not sure anymore. I realy wanted, but now I am confused. I had the pro model last gen, and it was worth it because of the resolution being closer to 4k, this gen it seems the pro is a better upgrade than the last, but at the same time is not looking as worth.

    • @борисрябушкин-з9н
      @борисрябушкин-з9н 6 місяців тому

      @@mauroenemy6369 There is no problem for developers to make 30 fps mode for ps5 pro.

  • @BlueBARv5
    @BlueBARv5 6 місяців тому +18

    You can tell Alex secretly Hates Sony.... Always taking subtle jabs at every advancements Sony trys to make..

    • @liquid1514
      @liquid1514 6 місяців тому +4

      has he always been like this?

    • @BlueBARv5
      @BlueBARv5 6 місяців тому +6

      @@liquid1514 ..its sad to see tho especially since this channel revolves around Gaming Console News.

    • @kraithaywire
      @kraithaywire 6 місяців тому +3

      @@BlueBARv5 You in the other comments say that PS5 is equal to a god damn 4090, but here you are accusing someone else for hating on Sony 😂😂😂😂

    • @melxvee6850
      @melxvee6850 6 місяців тому

      ​@@kraithaywirelol no one said that, don't lie lol, you just like Alex, PC elitist clown who can't help but laugh at gaming consoles

    • @kraithaywire
      @kraithaywire 6 місяців тому +2

      @@melxvee6850 i have a ps5 lol but ok

  • @KingMoeJo
    @KingMoeJo 6 місяців тому +1

    What truly occurred with Alex? He used to deliver comprehensive knowledge and insights; now, he merely reproduces content from other sources.

  • @dradis1
    @dradis1 6 місяців тому +8

    So does “Spectral” mean I can expect a lot of ghosting?

  • @uncouthliyouth4486
    @uncouthliyouth4486 6 місяців тому +7

    Yea starting to look like a day one buy for me. Don’t want to have to wait a year to play GTA6 without compromise on PC. This is the hardware they should have released to begin with.

    • @HShango
      @HShango 6 місяців тому +3

      Nah, that means ps5 would have been out of market for 3 years and a few months again, have you forgotten about COVID and it's technical recessions and Chip shortages

    • @fcukugimmeausername
      @fcukugimmeausername 6 місяців тому +4

      GTA6 is more than likely going to be 30fps on PS5 Pro. It may achieve higher than 30fps, but it won't be a locked 60+ like on PC, so the experience will very well be compromised.

    • @c523jw7
      @c523jw7 6 місяців тому +1

      It's gonna suck playing 30fps. Why ruin the experience by playing it like that ??

    • @Fafnir2000
      @Fafnir2000 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@fcukugimmeausernamewell I played rdr2 on xbox one x and I can say I did not compromised anything other than smoothness. Really it takes only 1 hr or 45 min most to adapt to 30 fps again

    • @hl236
      @hl236 6 місяців тому +1

      Rockstar might not bother optimising GTA6 for PS5pro in 2025. How the game runs on PS5Pro is up to rockstar not Sony. This is not like PC where the performance of a game scales if you play it on more powerful hardware.

  • @matthewgreen3101
    @matthewgreen3101 6 місяців тому

    Until you see it we won't know

  • @steel5897
    @steel5897 6 місяців тому +5

    If AMD really develops this upscaling tech for Sony and doesn't put it in their current RDNA3 Radeon cards, then Radeon shills are about to be the most cucked userbase in PC gaming.
    As for the PS5 Pro, I'd get excited except I know that they're gonna use this tech to remaster Last of Us 1 for the fourth time except in 8K.

  • @petekrumb4936
    @petekrumb4936 6 місяців тому +1

    Is this going to affect old ps4 games that are locked at 30?

    • @SSNebula
      @SSNebula 6 місяців тому

      Bloodborne hint hint 😂

    • @photonboy999
      @photonboy999 6 місяців тому

      NO.
      The older GPU wouldn't be able to efficiently run ML upscaling techniques, and the CPU is also likely a bottleneck.

    • @petekrumb4936
      @petekrumb4936 6 місяців тому +3

      @@photonboy999 I’m talking about playing a ps4 game on the ps5 pro

    • @sully8317
      @sully8317 6 місяців тому +2

      @@petekrumb4936 I think it would mean they had to go back to each game and implement it

    • @lordspalse0062
      @lordspalse0062 6 місяців тому

      Watch only 5 games all through the 2nd half of the gen will get pssr patches. Bullshit Sony. 😂😂

  • @fcukugimmeausername
    @fcukugimmeausername 6 місяців тому +1

    It is rather interesting that no one else realises the 3rd party leaker was Microsoft.

  • @mauroenemy6369
    @mauroenemy6369 6 місяців тому +4

    It is said that tge Ps5 pro is upsclaing a game from 1080p to 4k. Rendering in 1080 and pushing the quality to 4k output, looking realy similar to native 4k. Do you guys think that tge Ps5 pro could do the same for 8k? Rendering the game at 4k, like the base model already do, and pushing the image to an almost native. Ending up being sharper than 4k and realy close to the real thing (8k). I realy want the Ps5 pro to have proper fidelity that simulates 8k at 30 fps with the pssr. I have a big 8k tv and I would love to play a fidelity mode Rendering the game at 4k but upsclaing to 8k, with 30 fps and ray tracing. It is to much? I mean, it the base model already have games running at 4k 30 with ray tracing, the pro could not do the same and pushing that 4k to 8k with the pssr? It would be the best for option for me. I don't care about 60fps

    • @th4nkyoub3n
      @th4nkyoub3n 6 місяців тому +2

      the ps5 does not render native 4k 💀

    • @gotworc
      @gotworc 6 місяців тому +6

      ​@@th4nkyoub3nin some games it does

    • @makimwah
      @makimwah 6 місяців тому +2

      @@th4nkyoub3nof course it does? There’s been games with a native 4K resolution. Horizon 2, HSR?

    • @TwinkleTutsies
      @TwinkleTutsies 6 місяців тому

      8k you will struggle to play on a 4090 I very much doubt it.

    • @Ragssssss
      @Ragssssss 6 місяців тому

      Just forget 8k. Even a 4090 could barely handle that resolution, but you'd argue that upscaling could do it, sure it can, then again it'll at best 30 - 40 fps with DLSS BALANCED, maybe 60ish with performance/ultra performance. Imo 8k is still 10 years away from consideration.

  • @SolarErazer
    @SolarErazer 6 місяців тому +13

    Pc and xbox are getting angry 😂

    • @anthonymurphy342
      @anthonymurphy342 6 місяців тому +10

      Lol for what reason

    • @Sideways_Singh
      @Sideways_Singh 6 місяців тому +1

      Not pc owners but xbox owners are rethinking there life right now for sure 😂😂😂. All those games they have to rebuy to switch to ps5 pro. I would be mad af too if I knew there was going to be no pro xbox, but they shoulda known there have been rumors about this since the launch of series x and ps5, they were in denial. Microsoft pretty much already told everyone there wont be a pro xbox when series x launched. All microsoft did was hold back gaming 10 fold, with the series s, now games are gonna be held back n much shittier due to having to make games for series s, thats like having to make games compatible with ps4 when the ps6 pro is coming out at that ppint it would be a 17 year old console, imagine how badly there going to be holding back games next gen, I hope developer just drop the xbox series s completely or if there not allowed to just make it a ps5 and pc exclusive.

    • @zerus4435
      @zerus4435 6 місяців тому +1

      Who needs X-trash?

    • @electrikoptik
      @electrikoptik 6 місяців тому +4

      @@anthonymurphy342 The vast majority of PC gamers are not playing games at the same graphics level as PS5. According cu steam data, currently the most used GPU is the RTX 3060 followed by GTX 1650. 58% of every user of steam is playing at 1080p 🤣. The last time I played at 1080p was 11 years ago when PS4 came out. A whopping 0,88% is actually running RTX 4090. I always laugh when I hear people say "pC mAsTuuUr RaCe", buddy you're running a 6gb VRAM card that can play games at max 1080p.

    • @tallgeese88
      @tallgeese88 6 місяців тому +7

      Doesn't PC have DLSS and FSR? Why would they be mad?

  • @AlexAparicio
    @AlexAparicio 6 місяців тому +1

    Alex is a Xbox fanboy.

    • @Fafnir2000
      @Fafnir2000 6 місяців тому

      Haha xbox sx is that good compared to ps5 in specs wise

  • @pw9681
    @pw9681 6 місяців тому +6

    PS5 Pro is a joke. Why developers needs much more power and games are still running like dog water and. Why we cannot enjoy games like DS Remake, RDR2 in 60fps? They look great. And there is Dragons Dogma 2 with Ray Tracing that needs to be turn on. Why? Gamers don’t want it. Gamers want 60fps and dynamic resolution higher than 360p

    • @melxvee6850
      @melxvee6850 6 місяців тому +8

      Fam the console isn't the problem, it's the Devs lol, first party studios can make games run at 120fps, including Activision with their cod games, but other Devs are so lazy they blame the hardware

    • @pixeljauntvr7774
      @pixeljauntvr7774 6 місяців тому

      Of what matters to you is higher frame rates then you shouldn't be poopooing the PS5 pro.

  • @wizzenberry
    @wizzenberry 6 місяців тому +26

    Now we wait for the virgin 4090 owners to explain how a 3k mechine is 60% faster

    • @a-animal1206
      @a-animal1206 6 місяців тому

      Or the idiots delusional PS5 owner who thinks there console has 67 teraflops and thinks it will do 4k 120 lmaoo fuck outta here

    • @ThereIsOnlyOneRandom
      @ThereIsOnlyOneRandom 6 місяців тому +8

      75% actually.

    • @SolarErazer
      @SolarErazer 6 місяців тому +10

      Pc and xbox are getting mad a ps5 pro is beating their rigs 😂

    • @TheHulksMistress
      @TheHulksMistress 6 місяців тому +5

      @@SolarErazerit makes sense. It’s like someone spending $100,000 on a Ferrari, and then Nissan brings out a $50,000 car that outperforms it

    • @electrikoptik
      @electrikoptik 6 місяців тому +3

      @@TheHulksMistress The last time a Ferrari cost 100k was back in the late 80's. But I get what you're saying.

  • @nicogreen-oy8cu
    @nicogreen-oy8cu 6 місяців тому +1

    Dey looking fa more money

  • @845H1R
    @845H1R 6 місяців тому +1

    people expecting 4k/120 for AAA games are living in dreamland

  • @rappr88
    @rappr88 6 місяців тому +1

    Does Rich not let the others see the topics before they record? Anytime he asks Alex to chime in, it’s like it’s the first time he’s heard of the topic.

  • @hdhdhhehe6709
    @hdhdhhehe6709 6 місяців тому +4

    The power of the PlayStation 5 combined with a professional caliber of performance… this is a hardware BEYOND IMAGINATION. Sony has truly revolutionized gaming YET AGAIN.

    • @kraithaywire
      @kraithaywire 6 місяців тому +1

      lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @shuckylad
    @shuckylad 6 місяців тому +2

    Remember when you used to just shove the cartridge into the console and turn the thing on?

  • @HungryEatNow
    @HungryEatNow 6 місяців тому +5

    Console never fails to disappoint...

  • @ravf458
    @ravf458 6 місяців тому

    Upscale more checkboard fake 4k resolutions?? Lol

  • @theoperator2424
    @theoperator2424 6 місяців тому +2

    The CPU is a dealbreaker for me. Even 1080p looks good on my C3 LG OLED. I want boosted 120hz unlocked fps!! Guess I’ll stick with my 6800XT 5800X3D rig.

    • @hl236
      @hl236 6 місяців тому

      I got a 4070 580px3d gaming pc in December. 4k on my lg C1 looks sharper and more lush than 1440p/1800p that my series x outputs.

  • @deadlyx
    @deadlyx 6 місяців тому +3

    Lmao im a pc user but whatup with sony fanboys trying to attack us. They all on the commentd trying to console war but even if the pro drop you dont get no new first party games until next year.

    • @ThereIsOnlyOneRandom
      @ThereIsOnlyOneRandom 6 місяців тому +2

      I'm a gamer overall, and PC is my main machine, PS5 is second, I would drop it but I don't like to wait for my favourite game's, PS fanbase is very toxic, they have little brains and as much knowledge about hardware, and they like Apple fanboys, good marketing and few magical promises are enough to make them think that they getting best hardware for less money than PC users, but well let them be, at the end you can't buy a new brain

    • @sizablekoala6879
      @sizablekoala6879 6 місяців тому +1

      I don't get the toxic fanboys mentality in general. There was that viral video of a guy who destroyed his living room because Horizon got a PC port. People getting upset because more people can enjoy tge thing they like.
      Especially today with cross play where it doesn't matter what system you're on. You on PC can play Helldivers 2 with your PS5 friends, and same with Xbox with Sea of Thieves.

    • @andydog35
      @andydog35 6 місяців тому

      All of you giving a shit about consoles vs Pcs are all idiots. I m sorry but someone has to say it. You are either 13 or an idiot if you care about it and that s me saying it nicely.

    • @deadlyx
      @deadlyx 6 місяців тому

      @@sizablekoala6879 you serious? Lol

    • @saesang352
      @saesang352 6 місяців тому +3

      Bro there’s like 10 PS/xbox fanboys who comment on every video. Most people just own everything and don’t give a sh lol

  • @zerus4435
    @zerus4435 6 місяців тому +7

    PS6 will destroy PC Gaming. The difference will be minimal.

    • @dln.sweeney
      @dln.sweeney 6 місяців тому +6

      As a non PC gamer I highly doubt that

    • @balaam_7087
      @balaam_7087 6 місяців тому +4

      @@dln.sweeneyagreed. I’m mashing that ‘press x to doubt’ button

    • @tallgeese88
      @tallgeese88 6 місяців тому +4

      Lmao, have fanboys moved from playstation vs xbox to playstation vs pc now??
      Such simple minds

    • @lukemorris9066
      @lukemorris9066 6 місяців тому +3

      Yeah ...u might wonna go check out the 30 and 40 series cards before talking 💩

    • @zerus4435
      @zerus4435 6 місяців тому +2

      ​@@tallgeese88Yeah because X-Trash is finished.

  • @BingBingEnterprises
    @BingBingEnterprises 6 місяців тому

    So this is gonna be like the first $1000 console cause ain’t no way it’s gonna be $499 like these “leakers” have said

    • @Fafnir2000
      @Fafnir2000 6 місяців тому

      Nah the power gap between ps5 and pro is not that big at all, most likely ps5 would drop price to 400 and ps5 pro at 600
      If not, it's gonna flop

    • @BingBingEnterprises
      @BingBingEnterprises 6 місяців тому

      @@Fafnir2000 kinda pointless then if they are pretty much the same console

    • @Fafnir2000
      @Fafnir2000 6 місяців тому

      @@BingBingEnterprises ps5 is 4 yrs old and they can't keep selling it for 500 the whole gen, PS4 launch price was 400 and PS4 slim was dropped to 300 which is also a better version of it, sooner or later Sony have to drop ps5's price for their own good and Sony pricing ps5 pro above 1000 is like literal suicide.

  • @vickybengali
    @vickybengali 6 місяців тому +5

    DLSS>USSR > PSSR

    • @DanielWhitmer
      @DanielWhitmer 6 місяців тому +7

      It's not even out to do comparisons with, chill

    • @balaam_7087
      @balaam_7087 6 місяців тому +2

      I see you post things in KingThrash’s channel sometimes. I honestly can’t tell if you’re some rabid, die hard seething angsty Xbox fan or if you’re just being silly and trolling everyone to get a laugh.

    • @theboy2777
      @theboy2777 6 місяців тому +1

      Frame generation > DLSS > USSR > PSSR

    • @dradis1
      @dradis1 6 місяців тому

      In Soviet Russia, resolution upscales you!

  • @60weHoodsta
    @60weHoodsta 6 місяців тому +1

    The fact that everyone wants to break down a leaked document. Hate to say in. PlayStation is King 👑👑👑👑😂

  • @You-ud2fp
    @You-ud2fp 6 місяців тому +2

    Bro why does oliver use his tongue so hard

    • @maymayman0
      @maymayman0 6 місяців тому

      Not his fault he is a box munching maniac

    • @Daniel189HLL
      @Daniel189HLL 6 місяців тому

      He's eating it because he's hungry?

    • @SGT___3722
      @SGT___3722 6 місяців тому

      Grow up guys and eat my ass. He obviously has speaking issues which he handles well

    • @Sam-fq5qu
      @Sam-fq5qu 6 місяців тому +1

      He likes that tongue action...

  • @gwales10
    @gwales10 6 місяців тому

    Fsr 3.1 and 4 are not far away Ai.

  • @nathandts3401
    @nathandts3401 6 місяців тому +2

    I'd be interested if there were games. They really dropped the ball with making all their studios develop live service games.
    Waste of a console generation.

    • @The-Vitruvian-Man
      @The-Vitruvian-Man 6 місяців тому +3

      Many of their top tier studios are making new single player IPs, which take time. Naughty dog, Santa Monica, Housemarque, and Bend have been working on them. Bluepoint has been making a new game/new IP. Sucker punch and a sequel. Some of those have already put out games this gen. Most studios have more than 1 team.

    • @nathandts3401
      @nathandts3401 6 місяців тому +1

      @@The-Vitruvian-Man They were floating 12 live service games before they pivoted. That's a lot of teams wasting their time and regardless of how many projects are ongoing at each studio, there's going to be less output than what we got on the PS4.
      I'll need to see a lot of new first party games before I'd consider upgrading from the base PS5.

    • @The-Vitruvian-Man
      @The-Vitruvian-Man 6 місяців тому +3

      @@nathandts3401 Some of those live service games weren't being made by first party studios. The majority of first party blockbuster games on the ps4 were during the second half of that generation, and it will be the same with ps5.

    • @sully8317
      @sully8317 6 місяців тому

      @@The-Vitruvian-Man but sony has been laying off a ton of devs and like you said it takes time to make games but they have cancelled so many in the middle of cycle to then have to restart to make new games

    • @The-Vitruvian-Man
      @The-Vitruvian-Man 6 місяців тому

      @@sully8317 Most of their studios have more than one team. Naughty Dog has a team that's been working on a new IP while another team worked on Factions 2. Sony Santa Monica has two team--Cory Barlog's team has been making a new IP for years while another team made GOW Ragnarok. Insomniac and Guerilla have more than one team as well. Insomniac has two single players games scheduled to release this gen, as shown by the leak. Housemarque, BluePoint, and Asobi have been making new games as well. There's also a San Diego studio who's supposed to be working on a beloved PlayStation IP. They have lots of first party non-live service games in the works, in addition to second party games that they're publishing and help develop

  • @zerus4435
    @zerus4435 6 місяців тому +2

    Majority of PC Gamers still play on 1080p😂😂😂😂

    • @kraithaywire
      @kraithaywire 6 місяців тому +3

      PS5 drops resolution to 720p for an inconsistent 60fps 😂😂😂😂

    • @zerus4435
      @zerus4435 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@kraithaywireLies.

    • @TheBeanfinite
      @TheBeanfinite 6 місяців тому

      don't fix what ain't broke

    • @melxvee6850
      @melxvee6850 6 місяців тому

      ​@@kraithaywirelol are you stupid? Games with dynamic Res are on PC as well, they are the reason games run smooth, cuz if certain textures are too high Res and load too fast they can cause lag spikes, relax bro we all dealing with the same bs from games on all platforms

    • @kraithaywire
      @kraithaywire 6 місяців тому

      @@zerus4435 Jedi Survivor, Immortals of Aveum, Forspoken, Remnant 2 say hi lol
      Go check out their DF coverage. Educate yourself.

  • @maymayman0
    @maymayman0 6 місяців тому

    Why would the pro version of a console have upscaling but not the base model? That is so backwards hahahaha

    • @revengefulsouls5201
      @revengefulsouls5201 6 місяців тому +1

      More profit

    • @gothpunkboy89
      @gothpunkboy89 6 місяців тому

      The nature of technological progression and limitations of older tech. It is the same reason why you can't get DLSS on Geforce 10 series cards. But you can have it on their Geforce 20 series. Because DLSS was debuted with the 20 series cards and the 10 series were incompatible due to hardware restrictions.

  • @richardchase8910
    @richardchase8910 6 місяців тому

    I keep looking for where Sony themselves say a ps5 pro and I can't find it, online I can not find one thing that Sony said a ps5 pro 33tflops why would you buy a computer that point

    • @tomsimmons7673
      @tomsimmons7673 6 місяців тому +1

      It's not public. It's on the website for people with dev kits.

    • @photonboy999
      @photonboy999 6 місяців тому

      Lots of uses for a PC besides gaming. And plenty of games on PS5 Pro will still run at 30FPS that can run at 60FPS or higher on a half decent PC (the CPU is only 10% faster than the PS5 don't expect many 30FPS games that have CPU bottlenecks to suddenly hit 60FPS). And there's the monthly costs if you play multi-player games. It's complicated, and that's why some people have both a console AND a PC. I bought an XBox Series X to supplement my gaming experience rather than buy a new graphics card to replace my GTX1080... I hated the XBSX interface and was surprised at how crappy some of the back-compat games looked and ran. I returned it and bought an RTX4070 a few months later. Back to PC gaming!!

  • @ricepony33
    @ricepony33 6 місяців тому +1

    Will AMD use PSSR tech to improve FSR?

    • @brandonphilander661
      @brandonphilander661 6 місяців тому +7

      No PSSR is a custom Sony upscaling solution.

    • @TheBeanfinite
      @TheBeanfinite 6 місяців тому

      they will use ML, that's almost certain but it'll be independently developed to be similar

    • @photonboy999
      @photonboy999 6 місяців тому +3

      @@brandonphilander661
      Well, Sony and AMD have been collaborating so it may make sense for AMD to develop stuff that Sony uses and vice versa. Sony has had years of experience with custom CHECKERBOARD rendering so perhaps AMD let them work on a bespoke solution, then used FSR as a placeholder before coming out with an RDNA version that is based on Sony's PSSR.
      Since it takes a "2ms" performance hit that means that there is no separate silicon, thus it's using the GPU's own shader/compute units. Therefore there's nothing here that couldn't be applied to newer AMD graphics cards.
      Since AMD and Sony's success is so tied together, and AMD isn't a competitor I don't see a good reason for both companies to invest in the SAME technology.

    • @Kneel2ThaCrown
      @Kneel2ThaCrown 6 місяців тому +1

      The recently announced FSR 3.1 is supposedly going to fix all the issues.

  • @xacvhFAs
    @xacvhFAs 6 місяців тому

    Ps5 pro scam😂

  • @Fusion05
    @Fusion05 6 місяців тому

    I know it'll likely be used for 8k marketing BS, but I really would rather it be used to upscale from 1440p to achieve better framerates while looking near identical to 4k.

    • @xacvhFAs
      @xacvhFAs 6 місяців тому

      So basically what the ps5 was supposed to do.

  • @GrainGrown
    @GrainGrown 6 місяців тому

    "PSSR", so.. pisser? Because it will piss all over the image quality.

  • @nihilityjoey
    @nihilityjoey 6 місяців тому

    If people don't see the total piss take here i don't know what to say. The reason the consoles were the prices they were was because "we are back into console generations". The price for a better machine than ever before, is because it's packed with the latest tech, giving longevity to the consumer. "No compromises".
    And we are now at the point of paying just as much if not more again, to get what? Why not just invest in a pc at this point? I'm glad Microsoft have went the revision route, and are sticking with the series X and S. I get my moneys worth, and the games are fine, look lovely. The whole point of if a console is that sweet spot for price and capabilities. Sony must be feeling the pressure from the vr situation, and their tv devision. This is a sure fire way to get some cash quick. Enjoy your remaster machine

  • @stephanhart9941
    @stephanhart9941 6 місяців тому +1

    Arr Sony turning Bostonian? PSSSR! Wicked Pissah!

  • @KurosawaIsamu
    @KurosawaIsamu 6 місяців тому

    ...They called it pisser?

    • @balaam_7087
      @balaam_7087 6 місяців тому +6

      It’s an acronym, bro. Each letter stands for a word. The full name for the upscaler is PlayStation Soviet Socialist Republic

    • @Smitty_Werbenjagermanjenson
      @Smitty_Werbenjagermanjenson 6 місяців тому

      the marketing team will regret that one

    • @KurosawaIsamu
      @KurosawaIsamu 6 місяців тому

      @@Smitty_Werbenjagermanjenson In the future there will be posts calling a game shit if it doesn't have pisser.

    • @ShinySilvery
      @ShinySilvery 6 місяців тому +1

      Nobody will ever pronounce it that way. It will be pronounced P S S R just like U S S R as they’re doing in this video.
      As individual initials D L S S is pronounced that way and will never be pronounced Dullss !

    • @KurosawaIsamu
      @KurosawaIsamu 6 місяців тому +1

      @@ShinySilvery Bullshit. There is no way of all folks the gaming community would pass up calling it pisser.

  • @rezaghasemi7651
    @rezaghasemi7651 6 місяців тому

    two very important pc game has been released and df talking about what ? dragon dogma 2 and HFW