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КОМЕНТАРІ • 130

  • @alexanderhossack7288
    @alexanderhossack7288 3 роки тому +77

    Relentless assault doesn't work with etali, because it's cast in combat and not in a main phase, see wording of relentless assault, it just fizzles

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  3 роки тому +20

      Good catch! The guys didn't see the wording on that when they cast it unfortunately. I guess it doesn't come up all that often unless playing against Etali.

    • @Darchias
      @Darchias 3 роки тому +2

      Yeah Relentless Assault is weird that way.

    • @AxillaryPower2
      @AxillaryPower2 3 роки тому +10

      Yeah, a surprisingly large number of extra combat spells say "after this main phase", as you'd come to discover while building a Velomachus deck. Savage Beating and World at War are the only instants/sorceries that work how you'd like.

    • @razielthedamn4301
      @razielthedamn4301 3 роки тому +8

      Correct, but It doesnt fizzle since it doesnt have any targets. And it still untaps all attacking creatures.

    • @timelockedmaniac1694
      @timelockedmaniac1694 3 роки тому +1

      Weird question but if you were to cast relentless assault on an opponent's main phase, they would get the additional combat and main phases right?

  • @TheMinecraftgator
    @TheMinecraftgator 3 роки тому +10

    Cam throwing mental mistep across the table might be the funniest thing I've seen today

  • @Exaurilo
    @Exaurilo 3 роки тому +14

    The amount of instant being played at sorcery speed in this game is staggering and surprising, wow

  • @AffinityForCommander
    @AffinityForCommander 3 роки тому +21

    It's been a while since I've had the time to sit back and watch a Muddstah video on release day! Great game as always! 😁

  • @Keos027
    @Keos027 3 роки тому +20

    I see arcane flight playmat and I upvote.
    Tbh, I would have upvoted anyway as I always do, just wanted to have an excuse to comment and give you those sweet sweet algorithm points.

  • @JustforKikX
    @JustforKikX 3 роки тому +12

    It's always a pleasure to see a Mayael game.

  • @Thinker_of_things
    @Thinker_of_things 3 роки тому +31

    Threat assessment is always mind boggling in different pods

    • @Coxgix7
      @Coxgix7 3 роки тому

      Blowing up Keleth instead of Rograkh had me scratching my head for a moment

    • @gdiridium5525
      @gdiridium5525 3 роки тому +12

      @@Coxgix7 because Rograkh had protection from Blue because of the Commander's Plate

    • @aorusaki
      @aorusaki 2 роки тому

      @@gdiridium5525 yup

  • @felixsonofscouty
    @felixsonofscouty 3 роки тому +4

    Jori en is my favorite commander but barely anyone else plays her, so it is nice to see her here.

    • @kingfuzzy2
      @kingfuzzy2 3 роки тому +1

      she was one of my first commander decks and i love her

  • @SkellyBobRoss
    @SkellyBobRoss 3 роки тому +6

    I'm surprised how strong Rograkh and Keleth can go. My Rograkh Keleth is just Rograkh and his mighty steeds. All the creatures are things Rograkh can ride into battle and I have all the extra combat step spells. There is so much fun in using Rograkh.

  • @dillpickle694
    @dillpickle694 3 роки тому +1

    Haven’t seen a Mayeal deck in a hot second, let’s go naya

  • @user-fd2co5xr7k
    @user-fd2co5xr7k 3 роки тому +2

    Love seeing that people are still playing Mayael these days. I love my Mayael deck

    • @garrettwilson2624
      @garrettwilson2624 2 роки тому +1

      same here, my fav deck that no one likes me playing lol.

    • @user-fd2co5xr7k
      @user-fd2co5xr7k 2 роки тому +1

      @@garrettwilson2624 bruh. How are people gonna be salty about a Mayael deck? She has a 6 mana ability that you have to wait a turn to use, and the wincon is “smash face.” It’s so fair

    • @garrettwilson2624
      @garrettwilson2624 2 роки тому

      @@user-fd2co5xr7k i’ve spent so much time and effort into making the deck as fine tuned as it can be, unless i’m playing cedh it will most likely win.

    • @user-fd2co5xr7k
      @user-fd2co5xr7k 2 роки тому

      @@garrettwilson2624 Oh, sick! Do you have a decklist online?

  • @faerie7dragon
    @faerie7dragon 3 роки тому +25

    Daaaaamn, seeing Jodah getting rekt was so good, he didn't win but that is a moral victory.

    • @The_Breaded92
      @The_Breaded92 3 роки тому +11

      I felt bad lol. Sucks getting knocked out after playing 4-5 spells then having to sit there and watch your friends have fun without you 😅 didn't even get to cast his commander

    • @faerie7dragon
      @faerie7dragon 3 роки тому +3

      @@The_Breaded92 Such is the way of Voltron.

    • @The_Breaded92
      @The_Breaded92 3 роки тому +4

      @@faerie7dragon don't I know it. I used to play Rafiq back in the day. Either I was winning quick or was archenemy haha

    • @faerie7dragon
      @faerie7dragon 3 роки тому +4

      @@The_Breaded92 As someone else once put it, EDH don't mind losing, they mind being the first one to lose!

    • @DummyUrD
      @DummyUrD 3 роки тому +2

      @@The_Breaded92 I didn't feel bad at all, he only played ramp and a engine card. Those decks need to get punished. Put more interaction/early drops in your decks folks.

  • @TheThaelina
    @TheThaelina 3 роки тому +3

    Man, playing at the Red Dragon. I played for years at a place called the Green Dragon. I wonder if the rest of the colors are out there somewhere...

    • @soulb_
      @soulb_ 2 роки тому +1

      I played at a place called silver dragon!

  • @CeilingNinja
    @CeilingNinja 3 роки тому

    Minor narrative (perhaps gameplay?) quibble - Jori En's draw trigger would happen before the Gitaxian Probe's trigger since Jori En's draw is on spell cast.

  • @ZidaneTribal1989
    @ZidaneTribal1989 3 роки тому

    I just want to point out that on gatherer and in companion, both state Relentless Assault only creates an extra combat phase if the spell resolves during the main phase. It's the same with most spells that create extra combat phases.

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  3 роки тому +1

      Correct. I have pinned an earlier comment stating the same to the top of the video to help informed players of the mistake in this game.

  • @michaelrichards5253
    @michaelrichards5253 3 роки тому +2

    Good ol' Etali. 😀

  • @kingfuzzy2
    @kingfuzzy2 3 роки тому +1

    three of my favorite commanders sign me up

  • @gypsieking3280
    @gypsieking3280 3 роки тому +1

    Etali always does some work every time he crops up on the channel

  • @Supsup516
    @Supsup516 3 роки тому

    1:55 SHEESH

  • @TCG9777
    @TCG9777 3 роки тому +1

    Cam never stood a chance holy crap

  • @braydenfreudenthal8888
    @braydenfreudenthal8888 Рік тому

    i just looooove it when someone brings a very fast voltron deck and doesnt allow another person to play the game cuz the ko turn 5. soooo fun to play against.

  • @thatonescarecrow4692
    @thatonescarecrow4692 3 роки тому

    Not that it matters much, but second Evacuation couldn't pick up Xenagos because at the moment of resolving of spell his devotion was 6, and he was not a creature yet.

  • @brandonfrew3221
    @brandonfrew3221 3 роки тому

    What a great game!!! Good ol fashion beat down
    Terror is kinda meh, but in a big creature deck it's too good to pass up

  • @plain6677
    @plain6677 3 роки тому +6

    Why mental misstep in the Jodah’s deck? I’ve always wondered if it’s actually a good card outside of cedh

    • @DarkEinherjar
      @DarkEinherjar 3 роки тому +1

      You'll always have a chance to wreck someone who kept a hand with little lands while counting on a Sol Ring... :P

    • @quinnquitars
      @quinnquitars 3 роки тому +1

      I’m not sure if it’s good in edh either, but here is was pretty good. Turn one it could have countered a worldly tutor and the commanders plate.

    • @ChevronSeven
      @ChevronSeven 3 роки тому

      Didn't matter much because of Inferno Titan...

    • @ReadDwarf
      @ReadDwarf 2 роки тому

      Hey, I'm Cam! I play Mental Misstep because there's a lot of 1 mana plays in my meta, so I like to have some interaction around. It can also stop some combos by chance or value engines with low cmc artifacts for example.

  • @afspeellijstnaruto
    @afspeellijstnaruto 3 роки тому

    Cool match. I think Raf might have focussed too much on removal in his deck and casting / recasting them.

  • @ercolacri3500
    @ercolacri3500 3 роки тому

    Finally, a video where our girl Mayael actually does something!

    • @maxbodifee3263
      @maxbodifee3263 2 роки тому

      Only she didn't.. all hard cast and solid ramp.

  • @boynate95
    @boynate95 2 роки тому

    I could be wrong but I don’t think you are able to attach Squee’s Embrace onto the commander when Commander’s Plate is equipped.

  • @richardgallegos9775
    @richardgallegos9775 3 роки тому

    I think when Scott played Divine Reckoning Nylea was a creature he had dromoka (1), garruk +2, nylea +1, and mayael +1 so he had 5 devotion to green I'd assume since all get sacrificed at the same time she would have gone too

    • @admanios
      @admanios 3 роки тому +1

      Divine Reckoning says "destroy".

  • @wolffang7877
    @wolffang7877 3 роки тому

    1:50 daaaaaaaaaaam cam said screw you nathan

  • @TK-zd7ym
    @TK-zd7ym 2 роки тому

    I have yet to see a game where Etali doesn’t wreck everything. It’s just so damn good

  • @KasaiAisu1
    @KasaiAisu1 3 роки тому +12

    Ahh it's a shame Scott destroyed Sol Ring before he died, Raf had the Archaeomancer + Evacuation loop going

    • @truetbird1730
      @truetbird1730 3 роки тому

      Yeah I was just about to ask why Raf didn't keep the loop going, but I forgot the Sol got destroyed

    • @ninjafished
      @ninjafished 3 роки тому +1

      He should've waited for his opponents attack step then evacuation then. Oh well

  • @marioortizveliz5221
    @marioortizveliz5221 3 роки тому

    MAnnnn thxs for this video , Imma a Naya player , lovely video NAYA POWA!!!

  • @PhilClayton89
    @PhilClayton89 3 роки тому

    Shouldn't Nathan be able to just redeploy his creatures, equip one with Lightning Greaves and then attack after Raf cast Evacuation? Raf has to cast it either in Nathans first Main Phase, and then prio gets back to Nathan and he could cast Etali again and attack; or Raf casts Evacuation during combat, but then could only do so after attackers are declared and Nathan gets the attack triggers from Sun Titan and Etali?
    See 10:50 for example

    • @armoric
      @armoric 3 роки тому

      There's a "beginning of combat" step, before the "declare attackers" step, which is when you cast these spells to mess with attackers.

    • @PhilClayton89
      @PhilClayton89 3 роки тому

      @@armoric Yeah you're totally right, had to read up on combat rules again but it makes sense, thanks

  • @samhudsonmusic1
    @samhudsonmusic1 3 дні тому

    where (approx) in canada are you?

  • @thedrakefrost
    @thedrakefrost 3 роки тому

    Yay Mayael!!! Beefy beats for victory ✌🏻

  • @mosselliadelt
    @mosselliadelt 3 роки тому

    He could not attach squees embrace to Roger with commanders plate on him. Roger has protection from white, which includes white enchantment auras

    • @Wizardofexisting
      @Wizardofexisting 3 роки тому

      Found the mistakes thread. Also noticed the relentless assault mishap. If it’s cast in combat from Etali’s trigger it doesn’t work due to timing restrictions.

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  3 роки тому +2

      @@Wizardofexisting The Assault mishap has already been mentioned, and I've pinned a comment to the top of the video so people can be more informed.
      The Embrace play is actually fine. Please refer to this Gatherer ruling: "If you have two commanders and attach Commander’s Plate to one, it has protection from each color not in your two commanders’ combined color identity.
      (2020-11-10)"

  • @jumpandreverse4551
    @jumpandreverse4551 3 роки тому

    Anyone else see the mistake at 4:52 after damage step,( im pretty sure there's meant to be a creature still alive )

  • @garethsentry
    @garethsentry 2 роки тому

    Great game

  • @GrompEconomics
    @GrompEconomics 3 роки тому +1

    Odd question… does Raf have a Raff deck?

  • @jellysandjamz250
    @jellysandjamz250 2 роки тому

    Turn one counter… gotta love blue

  • @admanios
    @admanios 3 роки тому

    Yay for Mayael! 🥰

  • @beespangler7211
    @beespangler7211 3 роки тому

    "Scott untaps and plays a mountain" ah fuck that's scary

  • @MitchelTJones
    @MitchelTJones 3 роки тому

    At 11:00 when Raf casts the evacuate for the second time it was when Nathan attempted to move to combat meaning after evacuation resolved it was still the precombat main phase and Nathan could have cast Etali, equip the boots and attempt to move to combat again right?

    • @levithompson1161
      @levithompson1161 3 роки тому +1

      There is a time after moving phases but before attackers are declared where he cast it (beginning of combat phase). This meaning that he could not go back and recast things then swing with them.

    • @MitchelTJones
      @MitchelTJones 3 роки тому

      @@levithompson1161 perfect, thanks Levi!

  • @Hardiel93
    @Hardiel93 3 роки тому

    Two questions, Why Nathan Etali survive the divine reckoning if the Etali had Shroud? and How Scott was able to equip that boros aura over his commander with protection to every color except red?

    • @entiao5570
      @entiao5570 3 роки тому

      Shroud only stops "Target". Divine Reckoning does not interact with the greaves in any way.
      Scott played two partner commanders, setting his "commander's color identity" to red and white.

    • @greatbrandini3967
      @greatbrandini3967 3 роки тому

      ^yup, I had to look it up because I thought Commander's Plate gave a red partner pro 4 color, but they don't gain pro white in this case due to having a white partner

  • @AP-lf7xd
    @AP-lf7xd 3 роки тому

    congrats gerald!

  • @peterschneider342
    @peterschneider342 3 роки тому

    feeding the almighty algorithm

  • @Gruntx24
    @Gruntx24 3 роки тому

    love the games, is there any way to keep track of how many cards each player has in their hand? Would be good to know

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  3 роки тому +2

      It's something a few people have asked for, but it's a fair amount of additional work on my part, so I'm hesitant to bother with it unless it's really in demand / helpful.

    • @treycuret
      @treycuret 3 роки тому

      @@MTGMuddstah It isn't helpful. The opening hands aren't even particularly helpful since no one goes for fast combo. Don't bother with cards in hand.

  • @aeolus7762
    @aeolus7762 3 роки тому +1

    Isn't Squee's Embrace an illegal cast targeting Rograkh because Commander's Plate gave it pro white? I know his deck's color identity is RW, but it says colors other than the CREATURE's color identity, not deck color identity.

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  3 роки тому +2

      Taken from Gatherer: "If you have two commanders and attach Commander’s Plate to one, it has protection from each color not in your two commanders’ combined color identity."

    • @aeolus7762
      @aeolus7762 3 роки тому

      @@MTGMuddstah That's very interesting! Normally you would think the other way, but I guess since they are, in essence, one set of commanders, this makes sense.

    • @Bheckler24
      @Bheckler24 3 роки тому

      @@aeolus7762 It's a bit unintuitive, especially since something like commander damage is counted separately.

  • @CameronRodwell
    @CameronRodwell 3 роки тому +3

    Awww Jodah is my boy so sad to see another Cam playing Jodah getting smacked out so early.

    • @ReadDwarf
      @ReadDwarf 2 роки тому

      I've had my fair share of beating the table down that quickly before as well, so I'm not too miffed about it.

  • @tempiasjdoiasd
    @tempiasjdoiasd 3 роки тому

    Nathan come on and use that Citadel Siege trigger.........

  • @matteobagni1235
    @matteobagni1235 3 роки тому

    I don't think you can embrace Rog while he has the plate on

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  3 роки тому +1

      The Embrace play is actually fine. Please refer to this Gatherer ruling: "If you have two commanders and attach Commander’s Plate to one, it has protection from each color not in your two commanders’ combined color identity.
      (2020-11-10)"

  • @antonio2708
    @antonio2708 3 роки тому

    Raff could be hold the game with Archaeomancer+Evacuation locking the game until he have condition to win.

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  3 роки тому +2

      He could have kept bouncing stuff sure, but Nathan would have just kept recasting Inferno Titan to bolt Raf on each of his turns. Nathan would also draw into a Woodfall Primus which was going to start hitting lands as well.

    • @antonio2708
      @antonio2708 3 роки тому

      @@MTGMuddstah yeah, but he would gain some time, maybe I would try to play in that direction, because the Nathan's strategy was already know... 🤔🤔🤔

  • @AP-lf7xd
    @AP-lf7xd 3 роки тому +1

    look i dont like dealing with jodah at the best of times, but poor cam just getting destroyed

    • @The_Breaded92
      @The_Breaded92 3 роки тому

      My group hated on Jodah so much I had to break it down lol. Guess they didn't like my T5 Expropriate 🤷🏾‍♂️ I'll build him again with a vengeance after I get bored with my other decks

  • @Cerby24
    @Cerby24 3 роки тому +1

    Kobold gang

  • @omnislash882004
    @omnislash882004 3 роки тому

    Threat assessment seemed a bit poor in the early turns.

  • @lukecormier6913
    @lukecormier6913 3 роки тому

    So is Nathan just un aware he could have gotten none basics with the krosan verge?

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  3 роки тому

      He knew. He just chose to grab basics. Nothing wrong with that.

    • @lukecormier6913
      @lukecormier6913 3 роки тому

      @@MTGMuddstah true I was just confused cause the very next turn he sun titans his marsh flats to get a none basic so I was just wondering

  • @bestregards9672
    @bestregards9672 3 роки тому

    didnt he have some khan triggers during combat? he shoulda been doing more dmg

    • @armoric
      @armoric 3 роки тому

      He chose Dragons to tap potential threats, esp. when the voltron deck had an unblockable equipment.

  • @CriticoDeNo0bs
    @CriticoDeNo0bs 3 роки тому

    Seeing a Mental Misstep outside of cEDH is kinda weird

    • @ReadDwarf
      @ReadDwarf 2 роки тому

      My playgroup grazes the edge of cEDH every now and then, so I have to be ready to throw down

  • @Foofoothegoon
    @Foofoothegoon 3 роки тому +1

    Okay so this is really minor and I'm not sure that you'll see this but it's been bothering me a while across many of your videos and I feel obliged to point it out.
    "To which [someone] responds to" is a tautology.
    It's "which [someone] responds to" or "to which [someone] responds".
    Again, very minor and I hope I'm not coming across as petty here. I really enjoy your content.

  • @davidross5305
    @davidross5305 3 роки тому +1

    God I love that a commander deck can just not cast it's commander and beat the living heck out of people

  • @antony_ag
    @antony_ag 3 роки тому

    Correct me if I'm wrong but Squee's embrace doesn't work while commander's plate is attached to Rograk because it has protection from white due to rograk only being a red commander not a red-white commander

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  3 роки тому +4

      Taken from Gatherer: "If you have two commanders and attach Commander’s Plate to one, it has protection from each color not in your two commanders’ combined color identity."

    • @antony_ag
      @antony_ag 3 роки тому +2

      Okay, Now I know more for when I see it again
      Thanks

  • @jester2720
    @jester2720 3 роки тому

    Jori en player had a soft lock with bouncing all the creatures repeatedly each time till he found the the answer??? Kinda trolley but look at all those Triggers the other player had going off lol...

  • @jsum33
    @jsum33 3 роки тому

    Oh my goodness if someone threw a card at me like that douche did with that Mental Misstep they'd be getting it back in two pieces. They might even eat a two piece of what followed out of their mouth was anything but an apology. So satisfying to see them be the first out.

    • @douglatins
      @douglatins 3 роки тому +1

      Mr keyboard warrior here

    • @ReadDwarf
      @ReadDwarf 2 роки тому +1

      Hey dude, chill a bit. When someone tutors like that on turn 1, going first, they're going to start searching without thinking to wait. That's totally normal. But if I'm going to counter them, I want to make sure that I get their attention before they start resolving their spell. So you just throw it on the table to get it out with a laugh and a smile. It's a game bro, nothing personal.

  • @michelzimmer9324
    @michelzimmer9324 3 роки тому

    First!