@@FabSakkerdid some servants move up in life in real life or only in fiction? (Evangeline the maid in the first nanny macfee movie and Jane eyre both got out of poverty by marrying their masters or get married to some old gentleman after they get fired or quit the job , like miss turner from the HBO MAX 19th century new york set series the guided age , who after losing her position because she was a ladie's maid that tried to seduce her minstress's husband and then married some rich old man)
I remember the Edwardian country house reality show. I watched it with a few co workers and we joked that the bit about servants having to hide in a corner and make themselves invisible when they saw a member of the family approaching was the way we felt at work when we saw a member of upper management coming down the hallway. It sounds like a joke but trust me when I say this...we weren't joking. I never felt the interaction with the servants and the family wasn't that unusual if you think about it. The only "servant" Mary got close too was Anna, but I don't think it was unusual to get friendly with one servant. Neither Mary nor Edith were friendly to servants. No one else in that family was that close to the servants. There was the daughter who married the chauffeur....and yes...that is one part of the show I found to be totally unrealistic and something included to appeal to a modern audience which would never have happened in real life.
Mary was friendly to servants, she was helpful to Anna, her maid, Carson who was devoted to her, and also Bates. Robert was friendly with his butler and with his personal manservant....
I saw quite a few scenes where I thought the interaction between servants and their masters was too warm and unrealistic. Lady Mary was American, so perhaps I could believe her. The Earl was just too nice much of the time. One realistic scene I remember is where Edith refers to the maid as "odious creature", after the maid leaves the room . I seem to think it was O'brien, who may have been helping when the other maid was out or ill.
I'm not being funny but why would you work for an employer where you would rather be invisible if coming across them in a corridor. It must be a horrible work environment and very stifled if you can't even say hello or good morning. You don't have to be friends with managers but having good manners and respect go a long way.
the is 1 time that Downton Abbey portrayed a hallboy - he served the meal of the servants and assisted them in carrying some stuffs . . . but those were just 2 scenes only if I recall correctly
I just finished the downton series and I was somewhat familiar with the hierarchy of the service class beforehand. So you confirmed I wasn’t crazy I thinking that the way the show portrayed interactions especially between the family and the servants wasn’t realistic. For entertainment purposes only if you will. Great video!
I read that there was a special tax male servants, and especially after the war it was a flex to have more male servants because it showed you could afford the extra tax
I'd be a governess if lucky. Or a housemaid if unlucky. I'm glad you went into all the staff that Downton Abbey had to have, but you never saw them in the servant's hall --- the outside staff of grooms, gardeners, game keepers, etc. The only "outside" staff who was a regular part of the show was when Tom was the driver.
In Dowton Abbey there is a few scenes with halls boys. Carson telling William off about his jacket having a hole in it there is one standing next to Anna. Also Daisy started as a skullery made later on there is a scene where she is talking to Lady Grantham and says not as a rule M'lady but we haven't replaced Gurdy so I'm doing it. Great video
Downton Abbey is a well made soap opera. In fact its very unrealistic and the interactions between the aristocratic and family would have been very different in real life. The aristocratic family would never have had the casual conversations like they have in Downton. When Carson says to Lady Mary to come back to the world of the living after Matthew has died and she cries on his shoulder. That is extremely unrealistic as Carson could have been sacked for speaking out of turn and a member of the family would never break down in front of a servant like they do in the TV drama. Anna consoling Lady Mary and vice versa is a fantasy. Not many employers would have paid for their servants healthcare. Servants ended up in the workhouse when they could no longer work. It was disgusting. If a servant displeased their employer in any way, they sacked them. That's the truth.
Maria José Mora That is great to hear! Apologies for the quality of this video as it is one of the first I made! I think I might remake this at some point but better quality 😊 Thank you for watching and I hope you are enjoying Downton xx
The entire "pig's head" episode was fiction. The household rule was the wife's job. The chef would consult her about what would be served via menus presented.
I don't know if I would be fit for any role at my age (49). If I were young and cute I think I should like to be a stableboy and in my oft time I would flirt with Thomas. Thomas is the only man I have ever been in love with.
Just did a rewatch of Downton and you’re correct-Daisy does begin as a scullery maid.
This really helped! I'm writing a book about maids in a royal family and this was a nice break down 💓👌🏾
Awesome! Good luck with your book!! 📖
@@FabSakkerdid some servants move up in life in real life or only in fiction? (Evangeline the maid in the first nanny macfee movie and Jane eyre both got out of poverty by marrying their masters or get married to some old gentleman after they get fired or quit the job , like miss turner from the HBO MAX 19th century new york set series the guided age , who after losing her position because she was a ladie's maid that tried to seduce her minstress's husband and then married some rich old man)
Loved this video, thank you very much for this! I think you nailed the inflection on that "Mister Bates" too :)
Mr Baaaates hahaha so glad you enjoyed the video! 😄
I remember the Edwardian country house reality show. I watched it with a few co workers and we joked that the bit about servants having to hide in a corner and make themselves invisible when they saw a member of the family approaching was the way we felt at work when we saw a member of upper management coming down the hallway. It sounds like a joke but trust me when I say this...we weren't joking.
I never felt the interaction with the servants and the family wasn't that unusual if you think about it. The only "servant" Mary got close too was Anna, but I don't think it was unusual to get friendly with one servant. Neither Mary nor Edith were friendly to servants. No one else in that family was that close to the servants. There was the daughter who married the chauffeur....and yes...that is one part of the show I found to be totally unrealistic and something included to appeal to a modern audience which would never have happened in real life.
Mary was friendly to servants, she was helpful to Anna, her maid, Carson who was devoted to her, and also Bates. Robert was friendly with his butler and with his personal manservant....
I saw quite a few scenes where I thought the interaction between servants and their masters was too warm and unrealistic. Lady Mary was American, so perhaps I could believe her. The Earl was just too nice much of the time.
One realistic scene I remember is where Edith refers to the maid as "odious creature", after the maid leaves the room . I seem to think it was O'brien, who may have been helping when the other maid was out or ill.
I'm not being funny but why would you work for an employer where you would rather be invisible if coming across them in a corridor. It must be a horrible work environment and very stifled if you can't even say hello or good morning. You don't have to be friends with managers but having good manners and respect go a long way.
@@lepolhart3242 "It must be a horrible and stifled environment..." Yes
@@wilfordfraser6347 you must be paid well. I'd be running for the hills.
the is 1 time that Downton Abbey portrayed a hallboy - he served the meal of the servants and assisted them in carrying some stuffs . . . but those were just 2 scenes only if I recall correctly
Good video
Great channel, I really enjoyed this video. It abets my Downton Abbey experience.
Brilliant to hear you enjoyed the video! Cheers 😄
I just finished the downton series and I was somewhat familiar with the hierarchy of the service class beforehand. So you confirmed I wasn’t crazy I thinking that the way the show portrayed interactions especially between the family and the servants wasn’t realistic. For entertainment purposes only if you will. Great video!
Hopefully I can find the Edwardian house on some streaming platform. I’d love to see a more accurate depiction of the hierarchy
I read that there was a special tax male servants, and especially after the war it was a flex to have more male servants because it showed you could afford the extra tax
There were a few y’all hall boys in Downton. They didn’t have speaking parts; more like extras. but you could see them around every once in a while
Daisy was a scullery maid then kitchen maid then undercook I believe
Some larger houses may also have a dairy maid, laundry maid/head laundry maid, or even first or second gardener in addition to head gardener
I'd be a governess if lucky. Or a housemaid if unlucky.
I'm glad you went into all the staff that Downton Abbey had to have, but you never saw them in the servant's hall --- the outside staff of grooms, gardeners, game keepers, etc. The only "outside" staff who was a regular part of the show was when Tom was the driver.
In Dowton Abbey there is a few scenes with halls boys. Carson telling William off about his jacket having a hole in it there is one standing next to Anna. Also Daisy started as a skullery made later on there is a scene where she is talking to Lady Grantham and says not as a rule M'lady but we haven't replaced Gurdy so I'm doing it. Great video
Downton Abbey is a well made soap opera. In fact its very unrealistic and the interactions between the aristocratic and family would have been very different in real life. The aristocratic family would never have had the casual conversations like they have in Downton. When Carson says to Lady Mary to come back to the world of the living after Matthew has died and she cries on his shoulder. That is extremely unrealistic as Carson could have been sacked for speaking out of turn and a member of the family would never break down in front of a servant like they do in the TV drama. Anna consoling Lady Mary and vice versa is a fantasy. Not many employers would have paid for their servants healthcare. Servants ended up in the workhouse when they could no longer work. It was disgusting. If a servant displeased their employer in any way, they sacked them. That's the truth.
Started watching downtown and this video really helped
Maria José Mora That is great to hear! Apologies for the quality of this video as it is one of the first I made! I think I might remake this at some point but better quality 😊 Thank you for watching and I hope you are enjoying Downton xx
I usually think that the Downton Abbey theme sounds like the X-Files theme, but not when she sings it.
There was a hall-boy in Downtown but he is only seen. The only role I could have is Master of the house.
Thanks for reading Wikipedia for us
The entire "pig's head" episode was fiction. The household rule was the wife's job. The chef would consult her about what would be served via menus presented.
Well, it is a TV series. Fiction. Not a documentary.
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nice vid! also you look like dakota johnson
No fictional house!!! That house still exists and it still has a lord and a lady living in it. Maybe you should research it?
Idk why she said like that, but Downtown Abbey IS a fictional house located in Yorkshire, while the real building Highclere Castle is in Hampshire.
I don't know if I would be fit for any role at my age (49). If I were young and cute I think I should like to be a stableboy and in my oft time I would flirt with Thomas. Thomas is the only man I have ever been in love with.
Ooh a stable boy flirting with Thomas 😂Love it! I think we would all love to have a bit of a flirt with Thomas haha
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