Looking at the Corvair, the problem was not that it had severe enough oversteer to cause tuck under, but that it rolled from a stop with the typical understeer of all american cars, and the steering balance shifted from understeer, through neutral, to over steer as the speed increased. Evading the moose at 50 MPH may have been a safe, if frightening, maneuver to do, but trying it at 60 MPH turned the Corvair broadside to the direction of travel and sent it rolling sideways down the road. Everyone killed in one of these rollovers had no idea that the vehicle needed very little steering input for an emergency lane change at high speeds, so they applied a big input and the suspension gave an amplified, instead of subdued, response. One of the things that shoved bees up Ralph Nader's backside is the huge number of people that knew about the Corvair's "lively" characteristics that made it a "handful for the inexperienced driver" but refused to admit publicly that ham-fisted driving of the Corvair, at speed, was likely to get you killed, despite being reasonably safe in a front engined american car. [If you read Nader's "Unsafe at any Speed", you will understand why the book had to be written] What made the Corvair unsafe at any speed was the non-collapsible steering column that was the first part of the car to stop in a collision after the bumper and the geometry of its installation that positioned it to catch your face in a head on collision, as the front end crumpled. The lack of shoulder restraints meant that the first thing to apply a force to the head of the driver was the steering wheel. Another example of a vehicle's characteristics potentially leading an inexperienced driver is the contrast between the behaviors of front engined, front wheel drive cars and front engined, rear wheel drive cars. The RWD is a bit safer, not because it performs better, but because as the vehicle approaches the limit, it becomes more difficult to control as you get closer to the limit-- the rear end seems to float before it fishtails and it fishtails before the vehicle swaps ends leaves the road, rear bumper first. The FWD is a little less safe, because, although it must go further to hit the limit, your first indication that you have exceeded the limit is when the road curves and inertia ignores your pleas to follow the road. Some cars really are more dangerous than others.
I'v had my S197GT for nine years, I've never had an incidence of snap-oversteer. Maybe the fact that I have 50mm wider than stock tires on the back help a little.
2:06 This car had a frame made of extremely thin aluminum tubes and a geometry optimized to a minimum. It was very efficient! Unfortunately, during the tests, a weld failed and a complete loss of control ensued. They decided to solve the problem of the welds by inflating the frame with helium, with a pressure gauge on the dashboard, indicating to the pilot that a weld was cracking ...
My two cents on corvairs. The designers of the car wanted a front sway bar on all cars, but as GM was trying to market an 80hp economy car they did not include it at first. The front sway bar was an option from 61-64 and helped. In 64 they fixed the swing axle design with a camber compensating leaf spring. In 65 they changed to full independent rear axles like a corvette and the front sway bar was standard equipment. I have driven many different years and all I will say is if you get the tire pressures right they drive great. Even the stock 1960 models with 80hp drive fine. If you put equal tires pressures all the way around the handling is a handful.
The first bunch of Audi TT had no spoiler on their unusually round rear end and because of that they had snap oversteer and multiple people were killed before Audi was finally forced to put a spoiler on the rear.
The TT is such an ugly car... like if you roughly design only 1/4 of the chasis and then just copypaste the rest 3 times around and you get a whole car design. I don't mind when this is done by a french manufacturer. They are different in France. Speedo in the middle and such weird things :D but a german manufacturer...
My grandmother has a story that when she was being taught to drive the GAZ 24, when she braked the car suddenly skidded sideways, and then lifted the driver's side up off the ground at a large angle, then crashing back down with a massive thud.
I feel like this video should be called "9 cars that inexperienced drivers cant handle". They are certainly not "Dangerous". I want one of those pre moose test Mercedes A class cars. Talk about fun on a bun :D
Nah first gen corvairs will hurt you if you drive it normally trust me I was going on an exit ramp on the highway in my uncle’s Corvair and I lane changed like any other car and the back end got all wobbly and wanted to drive off of the damn road it’s a beautiful car but I can’t imagine how people lived with them back then.
Wow, I thought for sure the SRT10 would be on here, a car for an enthusiast so pure and experienced that you had to be told how to drive it off the lot lol
I cannot comment on the Tatra T77, but have driven the T87 extensively. Its reputation is due not to any fundamental flaws, but because the young Nazi officers were so unused to a car that could easily top 150kph and had excellent acceleration as well. Their experience was with front-engined cars with fairly low power to weight ratios and using cart springs. Badly serviced, with low tyre pressures, the Tatra puts your heart in your mouth. I recall crossing Chelsea bridge northbound and proceeding sideways down the carriageway, crossing a pedestrian island (nobody on it, thank goodness) with the front wheels on the left and the rears on the right of it... which was when I realised I needed to visit the very next garage to top up the tyres. They are very much like an early Beetle or 911 to drive. The steering is light and direct, quite sporting really, there is a mostly synchronised gear-box, excellent brakes and almost no rear vision whatsoever. They go like stink, not just for an old car, but compared to modern cars too. I had to do a modification on the manifold in an attempt to get better airflow from the twin-choke downdraught carburettor. I was a bit ashamed of 'cheating', but later that year on my visit to the Tatra museum, I discovered that Hans Ledwinka (the designer) himself, had made an identical modification on their test engine! The cars are very art-deco inside and ride absolutely sublimely, a lesson to modern chassis engineers in how to get it right first time around. There are a lot of false stories circulated around by those with no personal knowledge of certain cars and this ultra rare model is a prime example. This is one of the very few cars ever made that MUST be numbered in the collection of any serious connoisseur.
Sergio González Torres Mustang 2017 has now better suspension and more responsive brakes and LSD you know. don't blame mustangs. if you want to blame someone, blame the unexperienced MORON who drives it. the older mustang ('69 Mustang and later until 2004) are very good handling and can be used as sick drift cars.
Your channel has come such a long way from when I first started watching in late 2015! I watched a video of yours without the voiceover and it just wasn't the same. Great job and keep up the good work! Also: nice BRZ! Do you have any mods planned for It? -Will
As if an inexperienced driver would ever get the chance to drive one. They sell for millions, with the one Steve McQueen used in the movie LeMans selling for $14 million in 2017.
They banned turbos back then in F1 and Le Mans because speeds were getting excessive. 1000++ hp/ton without modern aero is a bit much even for professional racing drivers.
That tatra 77 and 87 is best cars made in my country (czech republic) and that customized yelow one, i saw that car personally, i was inside that car, i met that car 5 years ago on car veteran show, it won lot of awards, that car is legend in czech repunlic veteran shows and every czechian car guy know about this car, last time, i saw the same yellow tatra month ago on veteran car race in Prag, i following that car and that car following me for 5 years on several veteran car shows
I'm an Australian. Let's talk about a few Australian cars. The FJ Holden was basically a nice old thing, and the first almost Australian car. But a combination of bumps (long low subsidence type) and bend, and you could roll an FJ very easily. '50s British cars sold well in Australia, and the roads were full of them in the late '60s when I was a child, but the Morris Minor stands out as bit of bomb. A small car with no power at all, it was narrow and top heavy, and you could tip one ever without much trouble. In the mid '60s, we started racing series production cars. In theory, they were standard cars, but in practice, most were tuned up to some extent. Ford (Aus, not Ford U$) made a GT Falcon, and then a GT with Handling Options. That meant it got stiffer rear leaf-springs, and very little of the built-in understeer most cars of that era had in abundance. A 351 Cleveland in a GTHO falcon, was quite a fun car, but you did have to know what you were doing. It was said to be (in 1973) the fastest 4 door sedan made and sold anywhere in the world. It was good for a mid 12 sec quarter, and well over 160 mph, and it was taily. You really needed to know what you were doing to drive a HO at all fast... They're worth a lot of money today, because about half of them were destroyed in crashes... The early VB and VC Commodores were an extreme revolution for Australian cars. They were smaller and lighter, and they actually handled. Huge fun to drive. And you could drive them sideways like a rally car, and it wasn't even all that hard to do. They were a MUCH easier car to drive like that, than all the old stuff. Unfortunately, they'd begun life as an Opel Kadet, and when you put a 5 litre V8 in them and drove them on Australian roads, and hit something... they had a tendency to break in half pretty easily, and kill you. Lovely easy car to drive though, lots of fun. If the Brits think of a 2 litre Escort, then imagine a 3.5 litre Rover V8 dropped in it, stroked out to 5 litres... that's sort of a little bit what an early Commodore was like. Heaps of fun they were, but you didn't want to hit anything in it.... In 1980, Ford got worried about the new Commodore, so they completely reworked the Falcon. The engine and gearbox and most of the mechanicals stayed very much the same, but it got a whole new body, in a square boxy shape. The first version had a leafspring rear end, and a very slow recirculating ball steering system. It was pretty much taken out of the XB and the XC before it, and went into the XD almost unchanged. And the XD handled and behaved itself quite well, as long as you drove it very slowly. If you started to go a bit faster, it sat fairly flat in corners and pointed reasonably well, and provided mild encouragement. So you tried a bit harder, and sooner or later the back would step out. Then the lights went out. Then the chassis stopped talking to you. Then the bench-seat became a water-bed, and the chassis became a prison, and the steering became a large decorative object in your hands, and then you invented a medium sized dent in the landscape. A standard XD Falcon 6 or 8 - is the most lethal car I have ever driven. It does everything reasonably well, right up to the point where you lose grip at the back and need some opposite lock. And at that point, it turned on you like an old horror movie... The wheel went dark in your hands. The car stopped saying anything to you at all, except "Right! Now you're screwed! Smart boy, are you? Watch this!" Rotten bloody things they were.... They did gradually revise them and improve them, but in about 2002 they put a rack & pinion steering in, and suddenly most of what had been wrong, was fixed. Each subsequent one simply got better. A modern Falcon is actually quite a lovely car. If you get a turbo Falcon, they're not only nice, they're quite fast, and it's not hard (or expensive) to tune them. You can get lots of power quite easily out of the old Ford straight 6, and you can enjoy it. It's ironic. As a kid, I liked Holden and hated Ford. the XD did nothing to change that. But then slowly they started to make really nice Falcons. And now Ford and Gen Motors have both closed up shop and gone to sulk in America, and just when we learned after 55 v~ 60 years, how to really build a good car, we no longer do it. We stick Holden & Ford badges on south korean and chinese shitboxes, and sell then as Australian cars... perhaps there's a lesson in that. Don't get good at something, because it only ends in tears. Once you start to get good at it, it will get taken away from you.
I used to own a Revision 3 MR2 GTS Turbo import and i consider myself a good driver, have owned multiple rwd turbo cars in the past with 300+bhp. but I had to sell the mr2 because one day in very light rain I was doing the speed limit of 30mph up a slight hill with a right handed turn at the top, as I reached the crest of the hill the turbo came in as I turned right (this is now around 25mph) and spun me 270degrees and I ended up in the oncoming lane. the car could have killed me that day. after that I was never comfortable with the car and felt like I couldn't trust it.. anyway 2 weeks later it was gone and replaced with a Subaru Impreza Wrx Sti - type R
I might also suggest the Citroën SM. It’s got the most sensitive and direct steering out of any performance car ever made. It definitely takes time to get used to given all the things powered by the hydropneumatic system.
The Corvair does not do that, the legend was sparked by the book unsafe at any speed. where the authors best friend was killed, and made it sound worse than it was.when they tested the corvair they couldn't find the situation that made the car roll over. Further more this was america's attempt at a more sophisticated car, and that twat ruined it.
Wasn't george barris also the reason the corvair got a bad name George barris also said the porsche 550 was a danger to drive he was going around the u.s in the 50s/60s showing unsafe cars in his mind that shouldn't be driven in u.s highways he was a hater and didn't like those cars so he bashed them but yet George was making all these radical custom cars that look 1000000% unsafe with his bat mobile ...
All the people who wrecked their Corvairs and killed themselves just did it to help sell Ralph Nader's book. My dad sent at least a dozen of those death traps to the scrapyard for a penny a pound. They were fun to drive in a straight line but unsteerable in winter. GM recommended over inflating the tires to make it safer to drive but that did not help a damned bit in snow. The things were awful.
Claiming a Corvair is unsafe is Nader propaganda. Cheverolet didn't upgrade it right away due to the findings by the gov committee that the car far exceeded handling requirements and out performed many vehicles of the time. They specifically pitted it against the VW bug and determined it was safer in just about every aspect. No one ever says the VW is hard to drive...
BEST_NOOB_BG it's a big deal that that car got smeared like that. It could've changed the entire auto industry. It got decent gas mileage for the time and was a far cry from all the boats america built in the succeeding years.
It is true the updated cars are good cars and are insanely collectable now, but the first run of them did suffer handling issues (car had over 100hp while the beetles made barely 50hp. The extra power and weight mated to a chassis that hadn't yet existed it was almost inevitable something would go wrong). While propaganda is always an issue, in the case of the corvair it wasn't entirely false. Also what is to say the testing wasn't rigged. Governments are often bought and paid for by rich men (and W C Durant was a very wealthy man).
But the Corvair was genuinely unsafe. Not to the degree that Nader proposed, but the swing axle design, weight distribution and tire technology of the time... It was pretty unsafe. The VW comparison is a total fallacy. "Safer in every aspect"? Considering what counted for safety back then, of course such a claim would fly. In reality, the slower, shorter, much better sorted beetle is the safer car (Formula Vee is a thing. Formula Corvair is not). Also the VW claim is usually made by people who have a hard on for the Corvair. People who forget that other manufacturers were already reeling from the hard-learned lessons about rear engine rear wheel drive designs. AKA its no different than Porsche or Tatra or Renault cars of the era. They were F*cking dangerous to even skilled drivers, and are much more comparable to the Corvair than any year of Beetle. The technology to make them any less dangerous simply didnt exist at the time.
You are in fact wrong about the Corvair these lies have been spread for too long by Ralph Nader. In 1972 A&M University proved it was not unsafe at any speed. One real fault in the earlier years of Corvairs was the optional heater which if there was a leak could get carbon monoxide in the cabin. These cars handle better than most cars of its era and on par with many of this era.
Funny how those findings still dont negate the dangers of the design, which can be demonstrated in any car like it. Its not "Unsafe at any speed" under controlled conditions by experienced drivers. It can be lethal on a dark backroad in the dew-heavy morning hours. The handling "better than most cars of its era" comes at the price of stability, just like any other swing axle car of the era. "On par with many of this era". Not even close. Tire technology, suspension technology, a whole boatload of technology makes sure of that. Its why the design pretty much stayed in that era (and more importantly, was phased out of the corvair in 65). Its pointless now.
George barris was also the reason he bashed the corvair and the porsche 550 some folks forget or don't know that he went around the u.s in the 50s /60s bashing in his mind unsafe cars to have on u.s roads showing off James Dean 550 that James Dean died in Harris was a hater and bashed the corvair and porsche 550 do to the fact he didn't like the design but yet his custom cars were fu%king ugly and unsafe as well but yet his custom cars were safe to drive please his cars were unsafe the corvair and 550 were safer cars then his custom cars ...he had a big part in the corvair dieing. his fame won it with his friends and people in the car company so they bashed it unsafe and won bye bye corvair .......a$$holes they were how many people died in the 60s driving corvairs not so many they would of had a case if people driving the corvair in the 60s were dieing in crashes but nope they bashed the cars design and won do to barris fame ....story goes he hid James deans 550 in a building and made up a story on how the car was evil and disappeared on its own and whoever got close to it got hurt and years later the movie christine came out some say that movie was ab James Dean ,barris made up stories on a lot of things and a lot of people went along with him ...i wish I could find that 550 and see if it hurt me it wouldn't bc it was a made up stories to have people talk barris was good at that.....
I love how you started with the Mustang haha I still love my 1990 5.0 even if I got scared more than I should have driving it x) See it as a wild horse, you have to tame it if you want to have fun, they didn't call it the Mustang for nothing ;)
"Chevrolet refused to upgrade it until the second generation came along". The upgrade WAS the second generation and a suspension tune in the form of a sway bar was offered which corrected the problem.
Partially corrected the problem. The anti roll bar was a band-aid fix. Many owners junked the standard one and fitted the uprated turbo one, *then* it was a fairly effective fix.
The Mercedes A class had an specific problem that was completely solved when Mercedes had sold just some few units. It wasn't solved by including "ESC" (sic), it was solved by changing the geometry of the suspension, lower, wider, stiffer also, and by including ASR and ESP. Any A class of the first generation is outstanding in handling. It even passes the moose test at speeds above many 2018 model cars, including the Porsche Macan. It wouldn't hurt if you did a better research.
"A couple of sandbags". Right, so the car is great and nothing is wrong with it, except that you need a few hundred pounds of ballast to make it right. SMH. Also Nader has nothing to do with "Bubbly looking cars". European advancements in safety and global advancements in aerodynamics have everything to do with it. Its amazing what people will say to defend a 1960s car which was poorly designed, in an era where the layout was still in its infancy.
You drive bubbly cars because of CAFE, not Nader. Ralph Nader is why cars have seatbelts, crumple zones, collapsible steering columns, and switches/knobs/buttons that do not gouge our eyes out. He is also why there are recall notices, instead of dealers quietly fixing major issues as vehicles show up for other service.
and BMW's. I have a 316 Compact (e36).. just a great car.. beware of the earlier models though.. the ESP is a bit too slow.. which makes it go the wrong way if you correct quicker than the ESP does... when slippery.. switch off ESP, and use Common sense.. ( i managed to drift it round a ¾ Onramp leading to the highwaywith ESP off )
Andrej Kostovski The Dodge Viper isn't really any more dangerous than other super cars. it's powerful and rear wheel drive, so there is a chance of overtsteer. But based on it's track times and the POV videos I've seen of average people taking them to the track. They aren't dangerous or above average difficult to drive
Of the Porsche 917, you say "Amongst the naturally aspirated versions, there was a Can-Am version which featured the largest 5.4-litre engine and two turbochargers." Naturally aspirated ... with two turbos. I don't think you know what "naturally aspirated" means.
Amidst a sea of NA engines they made a twin turbo version. He's not saying "amongst their NA engines there was a NA engine with twin turbos". Whats hard to understand about that?
I had a cop friend who laughed about going on "Range Rover patrol" after the first snowfall of the year - he said that Range Rover (and Lexus) drivers always operated under the laughable idea that their $75K, or more, had purchased them immunity from the laws of motion.
Ricardo Avila Ford Mustang 2005-2014 experience bad names because of the short wheelbase, traditional style suspension, and somehow lacks LSD. Their brakes are also very hardy. The older and newer Mustangs are better and are popularly used as affordable Drag, Track, or Drift cars.
Platinumero Nath If a video of unsafe cars does not include the Mustang, it is like the video is completed at 50%. Crude reality. I know the Mustang is a very good car. I like Mustangs but i dont like the drivers....
Landed in JFK in '99 & picked up a rental mustang with a garish metallic golden paint job. It was autumn in Newengland with lots of wet leaves on the road. When making a left turn in a leafy industrial state, the backend lost grip & slipped barely missing the curb. Luckily I took my foot off the accelerator in time. A nice car but the rear was too twitchy.
Well, it's about 80 year old design. Cars back then had such outputs. Or even lower... On the other hand, some american cars from the late 70s and 80s had not much higher specific outputs.
Or they could just use more advanced valvetrains or injection, just like other (european, japanese) manufacturers did, getting similar power from far smaller engines also sold in the US. Also old american engines were quite overrated in terms of maximum hp because of the measuring method (SAE Gross), which added even 1/3 power compared to european methods or later used SAE Net.
Its old, quite small, low compression, has heavy internals and doesnt breathe very well. Those tatra V8s get pushed to the 200hp region sometimes. They're scary!
By the way, the handling qualities of the Mister 2 are what made the damn car popular. Vehicle sales declined when Toyota tamed them and basically made it a two seater Camry.
mustangs are dangerous? what the fuck you are talking about? not bewcause some stupid make stupid things with it that it makes it dangerous... its only because it is so affordable that kids buy it and make burnout and crash..i had one and i never had any problem with it...
falouchelo Oh, I TOTALLY agree!!! The reason why the Ford Mustang gets a bad rap is because, like you said, the cocky 16-25 year old dudes (sometimes middle-aged men and Danica Patrick wannabe women) drive them HARD like it's a real sports car. They don't realize that the Mustang is inherently nose-heavy, the suspension (including on the GT) is more set-up for straight-line performance, even though their handling is decent in its class and depending on engine option, they can be overwhelmingly powerful! I'm talking about Ford Mustangs before the S550. The only Mustangs that have had handling chops are: 1993 SVT Cobra, 1995 SVT Cobra R, 1999, 2001 SVT Cobra, 2000 SVT Cobra R, 2003, 2004 Terminator Cobra, 2003, 2004 MACH 1, 2012, 2014 BOSS 302 and BOSS 302 Laguna Seca and the 2006 Ford Shelby GT as well as the 2008 GT500KR. Lastly there are aftermarket companies making Mustangs handle very well as well as go in a straight line, too like Roush, Steeda, American Muscle, Saleen, Shelby American, RTR, Late Model Restoration, Ford Performance, and so much more!!! You see, when in more responsible and knowledgeable hands, the Ford Mustang is NOT a dangerous car after all!
Stratopolonez was very dangerous car. It had powerful engine from WRC Lancia Stratos, chassis from WRC Stratos and it haven't any aerodynamic downforce. Before first race it was not tested, and at first race this car has turned around three times! But it won that race
What's more funny - it has mid‐engine placement in 3‐door car :D I mean there's no easy‐accessable frame bodywork like every rally and racing car had. Mechanics have to get INTO the car to maintain the engine :D Hahaha.
There were actually several improvements Chevrolet made before the second generation including a front anti-roll bar and a camber compensating transverse leaf spring.
Haha, A-Class for sure, once saw one come down the slope into my old work too fast, hit the corner at the bottom flipped onto its side and slide across the yard into a wall. Went and helped the driver out and made sure he was alright, first words out of his mouth; "Thats the second f***ing time thats happened, I should have gotten my money back".
I had an early mark 2 mr2. I let my dad drive it for the first time in the wet. Got into a spin putting the power down. Did well to save it. Had to do a few saves myself while I owned it for a few years. Always in the wet and esp. in snow / ice. On the other hand it could change direction really quick. I once had to avoid a car really quickly at 70mph, I steered rapidly and the car pulled it off, the rear wheels skidding out a little actually assisted the rapid turn. Times I had trouble was in the wet under heavy braking or acceleration, it could snap out. Had to catch it really quick once or die. My own fault I pushed it way too hard in the wet late at night. Also once I lost it in a corner but caught it positioned the angle and waited for it to grip again. Then drove off. That was fun and a thrill to pull it off. I'm older and wiser now though.
The Porche 917/30 was built in 1973 and it was not unusual to have your feet ahead of the front axle in those days. It was not mandated in F1 to have feed behind the front axle until 1988. Racing drivers in those days went to A LOT of funerals.
just so the poster knows, I'm fairly certain the 917 was a flat 12 QUAD turbo, it's one of the few cars ever that the driver actually had the ability to turn the boost UP and DOWN from his seat! Fun Fact!
I not only drove, but raced a '61 Corvair Monza. Its handling was fine, but it did require the driver to stay on top of things. In the wet, however, you had to take it easy. With decent tires and the correct tire pressure it could be made to change direction incredibly quickly. It was very unforgiving, though. For racing, limit straps were required for the swing axles. I had a blower engine which I never got to put in the car, but that would have put out 180 hp! The four carb Monza was a very healthy 140, though.
I think these cars require more than experienced drivers. Such as fuel, oil, a working battery, wheels, controls of some sort, perhaps some coolant, etc.
The Corvair lacked a stabilizer bar in the first generation. Chevy sold the stabilizer bar, but it was optional, at $12.50 per example. when the second generation came, out the stabilizer bar was standard.
The Ford Mustang is also considered dangerous because they sold the cheaper versions without safety equipment...You had to buy the upmarket version if you wanted the safety stuff, and the competition had it as standard. That's also why. I think you forgot to put in the Ford Capri V6. The 4-pot Capri is nice handling, however, due to the more power and torque the V6 can be lethal to unexperienced drivers. This is also because of the weight in the front of the V6. They can have snap oversteer... I have driven both models, and yes the V6 can be a handfull especially if you do not watch out in the wet.
when the tvr owner said the speed 12 was too brutal with it breaking the dyno and too noisy all the perfect reasons to make it a street car to purely piss people off
When TVR say a car is too dangerous to put into production then you know it must be mental. Airbags? nope. Traction control? nope. Antilock breaks? nope. Crumple zones? nope. I miss TVR.
I can think of one car that's known as the Widowmaker among highway patrolman back in 1972 Dodge came out with a model called the polara and under the hood was powered by 440 Magnum V8 with a special cam set up in the engine and being a heavy car as it was the car was certified to do at least 140 miles per hour but it had terrible steering when in high speed Pursuit with an experienced Highway Patrol officers behind the wheel.
All new mustang now have independent rear suspension which means the car is nice to drive and easier to control, so there are no more excuses for people to crash it unless they seriously cant handle a muscle car
you know what I did with everything i knew about cars as a kid.. Just imagined one day the million dollar question will be about an obscure car no one even heard of.. This guy made a youtube series instead.
Every car in the hands of a moron, is a dangerous car....
*Puts down toy car* :|
+Nuno Rosa yeah , if you never driven any car , then don't drive any car , even the training one .
Cá em Portugal não faltam exemplos
Looking at the Corvair, the problem was not that it had severe enough oversteer to cause tuck under, but that it rolled from a stop with the typical understeer of all american cars, and the steering balance shifted from understeer, through neutral, to over steer as the speed increased. Evading the moose at 50 MPH may have been a safe, if frightening, maneuver to do, but trying it at 60 MPH turned the Corvair broadside to the direction of travel and sent it rolling sideways down the road. Everyone killed in one of these rollovers had no idea that the vehicle needed very little steering input for an emergency lane change at high speeds, so they applied a big input and the suspension gave an amplified, instead of subdued, response.
One of the things that shoved bees up Ralph Nader's backside is the huge number of people that knew about the Corvair's "lively" characteristics that made it a "handful for the inexperienced driver" but refused to admit publicly that ham-fisted driving of the Corvair, at speed, was likely to get you killed, despite being reasonably safe in a front engined american car. [If you read Nader's "Unsafe at any Speed", you will understand why the book had to be written] What made the Corvair unsafe at any speed was the non-collapsible steering column that was the first part of the car to stop in a collision after the bumper and the geometry of its installation that positioned it to catch your face in a head on collision, as the front end crumpled. The lack of shoulder restraints meant that the first thing to apply a force to the head of the driver was the steering wheel.
Another example of a vehicle's characteristics potentially leading an inexperienced driver is the contrast between the behaviors of front engined, front wheel drive cars and front engined, rear wheel drive cars. The RWD is a bit safer, not because it performs better, but because as the vehicle approaches the limit, it becomes more difficult to control as you get closer to the limit-- the rear end seems to float before it fishtails and it fishtails before the vehicle swaps ends leaves the road, rear bumper first. The FWD is a little less safe, because, although it must go further to hit the limit, your first indication that you have exceeded the limit is when the road curves and inertia ignores your pleas to follow the road.
Some cars really are more dangerous than others.
every voice of nagger is a nagging voioce :(
For my fellow mustang drivers, all you need to do is NOT GIVE IT SO MUCH GAS WHILE TURNING
Bestest comment ever😂😂
Or go to an open area, and practice correcting for the oversteer
Or not hit people 😂😂 (God I hope I don't get hate)
Right in a way.. also, once they let off when they get side ways it just shoots them where they don’t want to be.. power out!
I'v had my S197GT for nine years, I've never had an incidence of snap-oversteer. Maybe the fact that I have 50mm wider than stock tires on the back help a little.
Mustangs drive into crowds because Mustangs *love* crowds! :D
it's not an issue, it is a part of their tactics. This is, how they survive in nature :D
NewNick dude my car gets 300 ppc, people per crowd. 😏😏
NewNick yeabut at least I'm safe I'm my house
*sound of a V8 roaring in the distance* oh god no
HUG MEEEEEE *bowls through crowd*
NewNick.
The Ford Mustprang!
2:06 This car had a frame made of extremely thin aluminum tubes and a geometry optimized to a minimum. It was very efficient! Unfortunately, during the tests, a weld failed and a complete loss of control ensued. They decided to solve the problem of the welds by inflating the frame with helium, with a pressure gauge on the dashboard, indicating to the pilot that a weld was cracking ...
My two cents on corvairs. The designers of the car wanted a front sway bar on all cars, but as GM was trying to market an 80hp economy car they did not include it at first. The front sway bar was an option from 61-64 and helped. In 64 they fixed the swing axle design with a camber compensating leaf spring. In 65 they changed to full independent rear axles like a corvette and the front sway bar was standard equipment. I have driven many different years and all I will say is if you get the tire pressures right they drive great. Even the stock 1960 models with 80hp drive fine. If you put equal tires pressures all the way around the handling is a handful.
"Overpowered cars"
*inhales*
group c
The first bunch of Audi TT had no spoiler on their unusually round rear end and because of that they had snap oversteer and multiple people were killed before Audi was finally forced to put a spoiler on the rear.
Yeah the TT really deserved a spot here. But instead we get the mustang because no one even remembers the TT.
Correct.
Especially 1998-2001
Mgoblagulkablong - Lift off oversteer for audi tt. Snap oversteer is slightly different.
The TT is such an ugly car... like if you roughly design only 1/4 of the chasis and then just copypaste the rest 3 times around and you get a whole car design. I don't mind when this is done by a french manufacturer. They are different in France. Speedo in the middle and such weird things :D but a german manufacturer...
So I'm guessing you have to ride around with a body in the trunk of the GAZ 24 for "ballast"?
They put a concrete block in the trunk for better handling in the factory... I guess thats the proper russian way to do it :D
You would need like, six dissidents to equate to the ballast in that car.
i laughed hard at your comment. "six dissidents" hahahaha!
it was used by KGB because if they killed someone they have better handling + they got rid of some street scum
Max200012 I believe you mean when they killed someone
The Tatra looks like a Pre-War Batmobile
Or an early VW Beetle prototype. I'd almost like to test drive one now.
My grandmother has a story that when she was being taught to drive the GAZ 24, when she braked the car suddenly skidded sideways, and then lifted the driver's side up off the ground at a large angle, then crashing back down with a massive thud.
The first volga clip at 4:48 was filmed here in Bulgaria JUST 10 mins away from my house LOL!!!
Alexandar ?
къде е това?
Автокъщата на Марио М5?
And the dude walking around has a Swedish Jacket where i come from lol.
why is there a kid driving that car xdd
god that volga sounded amazing
zeee kalouska
well, for a Russian muscle, that car is pretty good. idk for you tho but it doesn't sound sick, but ok.
The last one was just a weird looking 2009 Dodge Viper
Speaking of cars that want to killer its drivers.
there's a girl in my town who drives an a-class.
she put an extreme camber to it.
it's an abomination
i feel offended
i also feel offended by extreme camber (especially the camber of 90°. ugh)
awesomefacepalm Buy bags of Uncle Bens rice and put it in the hood. Unopened of course.
powerful v8 with 76 hp 133 Nm LOL
that´s depressing
1.6 hdi got same power xDD
Faruk Deprem.
That Tara has gotta be the most under powered and nauseating looking car ever!
I made a Lego friggin turbine that makes moar powah
...back in 1934. LOL
a busdrivers feet are also in front of the front axle and thats not scary :D
Not quite the same. Imagine Go Kart integrety with 1000hp and go kart response. Now tell me that ain't scary. :)
Colum Peel not as scary as being responsible for tens of people's lives at a time for 10 - 20 hours :)
Yes. Exactly. It makes a difference when a bus approaches a cliff slow or fast :D you can enjoy the moment a bit longer
A bus doesn’t weight 0.8 tonnes and have 1600hp
I mean to be honest those cars made 250 mph on the straights, and at those speeds, well you die anyways
How about the old Audi TT (first gen)?
AWD, front engine, 3k lbs, 230hp. Dangerous how?
+WinrickRacing before they added the spoiler, thanks to the cars E G G shape, it produces lift on high speeds and thus loosing high speed stability.
Ah ok. It looks like most of the accidents were lane changes at 100+ mph because the rear end can come around. Just stay on the gas. ;)
I feel like this video should be called "9 cars that inexperienced drivers cant handle". They are certainly not "Dangerous".
I want one of those pre moose test Mercedes A class cars. Talk about fun on a bun :D
Nah first gen corvairs will hurt you if you drive it normally trust me I was going on an exit ramp on the highway in my uncle’s Corvair and I lane changed like any other car and the back end got all wobbly and wanted to drive off of the damn road it’s a beautiful car but I can’t imagine how people lived with them back then.
The newer mustangs have much better emphasis on chassis and handling.
Juan Cruz
High performance car, low performance drivers are the issue.
EXACTLY.
newer mustangs produce around 500hp which is alot.. and mustangs are very cheap cars when u compare it to other cars that have around 500 hp
REbornDArth Not mention, you could buy a 2015 supercharged mustang with over 700hp for the price of a new one!😎
Handling isnt actually all that bad on the non IRS mustangs. People are just used to IRS making life easy. Its not hard to make a live axle fast.
Wow, I thought for sure the SRT10 would be on here, a car for an enthusiast so pure and experienced that you had to be told how to drive it off the lot lol
The Viper? Be sure to watch the mentioned previous episode
6:35 Holy shit!
That gave me goosebumps..
i think he was held in the air ore something like that
Andy Wallace in the TS010 through the exact corner Visio was talking about seconds earlier. That was intense o_o
Wathc your mouth!!!!
I cannot comment on the Tatra T77, but have driven the T87 extensively. Its reputation is due not to any fundamental flaws, but because the young Nazi officers were so unused to a car that could easily top 150kph and had excellent acceleration as well. Their experience was with front-engined cars with fairly low power to weight ratios and using cart springs. Badly serviced, with low tyre pressures, the Tatra puts your heart in your mouth. I recall crossing Chelsea bridge northbound and proceeding sideways down the carriageway, crossing a pedestrian island (nobody on it, thank goodness) with the front wheels on the left and the rears on the right of it... which was when I realised I needed to visit the very next garage to top up the tyres. They are very much like an early Beetle or 911 to drive. The steering is light and direct, quite sporting really, there is a mostly synchronised gear-box, excellent brakes and almost no rear vision whatsoever. They go like stink, not just for an old car, but compared to modern cars too. I had to do a modification on the manifold in an attempt to get better airflow from the twin-choke downdraught carburettor. I was a bit ashamed of 'cheating', but later that year on my visit to the Tatra museum, I discovered that Hans Ledwinka (the designer) himself, had made an identical modification on their test engine! The cars are very art-deco inside and ride absolutely sublimely, a lesson to modern chassis engineers in how to get it right first time around. There are a lot of false stories circulated around by those with no personal knowledge of certain cars and this ultra rare model is a prime example. This is one of the very few cars ever made that MUST be numbered in the collection of any serious connoisseur.
Of course, the first car in every dangerous car list has to be the Mustang XD
Sergio González Torres
Mustang 2017 has now better suspension and more responsive brakes and LSD you know. don't blame mustangs. if you want to blame someone, blame the unexperienced MORON who drives it.
the older mustang ('69 Mustang and later until 2004) are very good handling and can be used as sick drift cars.
Your channel has come such a long way from when I first started watching in late 2015! I watched a video of yours without the voiceover and it just wasn't the same. Great job and keep up the good work! Also: nice BRZ! Do you have any mods planned for It?
-Will
the 917 is a full blown racecar, what do you expect
As if an inexperienced driver would ever get the chance to drive one. They sell for millions, with the one Steve McQueen used in the movie LeMans selling for $14 million in 2017.
They banned turbos back then in F1 and Le Mans because speeds were getting excessive. 1000++ hp/ton without modern aero is a bit much even for professional racing drivers.
That tatra 77 and 87 is best cars made in my country (czech republic) and that customized yelow one, i saw that car personally, i was inside that car, i met that car 5 years ago on car veteran show, it won lot of awards, that car is legend in czech repunlic veteran shows and every czechian car guy know about this car, last time, i saw the same yellow tatra month ago on veteran car race in Prag, i following that car and that car following me for 5 years on several veteran car shows
0:34 I Choked 😂
Flying Beluga 😂😂😂 was obvious the Mustang in this video or the video simplely dont make sence.
Flying Beluga on a cock?
Flying Beluga Yeah. Mustangs should have at least a feature to disable the traction control with a Special key.
They have a button for this. I own a Mustang GT from 2008.
pete a China?
I'm an Australian. Let's talk about a few Australian cars. The FJ Holden was basically a nice old thing, and the first almost Australian car. But a combination of bumps (long low subsidence type) and bend, and you could roll an FJ very easily. '50s British cars sold well in Australia, and the roads were full of them in the late '60s when I was a child, but the Morris Minor stands out as bit of bomb. A small car with no power at all, it was narrow and top heavy, and you could tip one ever without much trouble. In the mid '60s, we started racing series production cars. In theory, they were standard cars, but in practice, most were tuned up to some extent. Ford (Aus, not Ford U$) made a GT Falcon, and then a GT with Handling Options. That meant it got stiffer rear leaf-springs, and very little of the built-in understeer most cars of that era had in abundance. A 351 Cleveland in a GTHO falcon, was quite a fun car, but you did have to know what you were doing. It was said to be (in 1973) the fastest 4 door sedan made and sold anywhere in the world. It was good for a mid 12 sec quarter, and well over 160 mph, and it was taily. You really needed to know what you were doing to drive a HO at all fast... They're worth a lot of money today, because about half of them were destroyed in crashes...
The early VB and VC Commodores were an extreme revolution for Australian cars. They were smaller and lighter, and they actually handled. Huge fun to drive. And you could drive them sideways like a rally car, and it wasn't even all that hard to do. They were a MUCH easier car to drive like that, than all the old stuff. Unfortunately, they'd begun life as an Opel Kadet, and when you put a 5 litre V8 in them and drove them on Australian roads, and hit something... they had a tendency to break in half pretty easily, and kill you. Lovely easy car to drive though, lots of fun. If the Brits think of a 2 litre Escort, then imagine a 3.5 litre Rover V8 dropped in it, stroked out to 5 litres... that's sort of a little bit what an early Commodore was like. Heaps of fun they were, but you didn't want to hit anything in it....
In 1980, Ford got worried about the new Commodore, so they completely reworked the Falcon. The engine and gearbox and most of the mechanicals stayed very much the same, but it got a whole new body, in a square boxy shape. The first version had a leafspring rear end, and a very slow recirculating ball steering system. It was pretty much taken out of the XB and the XC before it, and went into the XD almost unchanged. And the XD handled and behaved itself quite well, as long as you drove it very slowly. If you started to go a bit faster, it sat fairly flat in corners and pointed reasonably well, and provided mild encouragement. So you tried a bit harder, and sooner or later the back would step out. Then the lights went out. Then the chassis stopped talking to you. Then the bench-seat became a water-bed, and the chassis became a prison, and the steering became a large decorative object in your hands, and then you invented a medium sized dent in the landscape. A standard XD Falcon 6 or 8 - is the most lethal car I have ever driven. It does everything reasonably well, right up to the point where you lose grip at the back and need some opposite lock. And at that point, it turned on you like an old horror movie... The wheel went dark in your hands. The car stopped saying anything to you at all, except "Right! Now you're screwed! Smart boy, are you? Watch this!" Rotten bloody things they were....
They did gradually revise them and improve them, but in about 2002 they put a rack & pinion steering in, and suddenly most of what had been wrong, was fixed. Each subsequent one simply got better. A modern Falcon is actually quite a lovely car. If you get a turbo Falcon, they're not only nice, they're quite fast, and it's not hard (or expensive) to tune them. You can get lots of power quite easily out of the old Ford straight 6, and you can enjoy it.
It's ironic. As a kid, I liked Holden and hated Ford. the XD did nothing to change that. But then slowly they started to make really nice Falcons. And now Ford and Gen Motors have both closed up shop and gone to sulk in America, and just when we learned after 55 v~ 60 years, how to really build a good car, we no longer do it. We stick Holden & Ford badges on south korean and chinese shitboxes, and sell then as Australian cars... perhaps there's a lesson in that. Don't get good at something, because it only ends in tears. Once you start to get good at it, it will get taken away from you.
3:55 "Turta MR2"
I used to own a Revision 3 MR2 GTS Turbo import and i consider myself a good driver, have owned multiple rwd turbo cars in the past with 300+bhp. but I had to sell the mr2 because one day in very light rain I was doing the speed limit of 30mph up a slight hill with a right handed turn at the top, as I reached the crest of the hill the turbo came in as I turned right (this is now around 25mph) and spun me 270degrees and I ended up in the oncoming lane. the car could have killed me that day. after that I was never comfortable with the car and felt like I couldn't trust it.. anyway 2 weeks later it was gone and replaced with a Subaru Impreza Wrx Sti - type R
That TVR Cerbera Speed 12 caused me to make a mess in my undies.
Sexiest car ever invented, in my opinion.
Only if you are at maximum 12 years
Massimo Bernardo Stupid 12 year old kid wont even know what is an TVR, he will know what is an lambo but not an TVR
It's wickedly good looking, true.
My favorite sport car that's for sure!
But I like to call it, the "Cerberus"
When did you get to drive or should I say ride in one since there is only one.
The TVR even wants to kill me in Forza Horizon 4 lol
1908 electric cars, no noise.
2017 electric cars, no noise
YAY
I might also suggest the Citroën SM. It’s got the most sensitive and direct steering out of any performance car ever made. It definitely takes time to get used to given all the things powered by the hydropneumatic system.
The Corvair does not do that, the legend was sparked by the book unsafe at any speed. where the authors best friend was killed, and made it sound worse than it was.when they tested the corvair they couldn't find the situation that made the car roll over.
Further more this was america's attempt at a more sophisticated car, and that twat ruined it.
deth kon well said
Wasn't george barris also the reason the corvair got a bad name George barris also said the porsche 550 was a danger to drive he was going around the u.s in the 50s/60s showing unsafe cars in his mind that shouldn't be driven in u.s highways he was a hater and didn't like those cars so he bashed them but yet George was making all these radical custom cars that look 1000000% unsafe with his bat mobile ...
Am I the only one who thinks the Corvair is ugly? I prefer Camaros and Bel Airs when it comes to Chevrolet.
All the people who wrecked their Corvairs and killed themselves just did it to help sell Ralph Nader's book. My dad sent at least a dozen of those death traps to the scrapyard for a penny a pound. They were fun to drive in a straight line but unsteerable in winter. GM recommended over inflating the tires to make it safer to drive but that did not help a damned bit in snow. The things were awful.
Had a MR2 turbo, and can confirm that they oversteer faster that anything else when they do, makes for a dangerous surprise.
Claiming a Corvair is unsafe is Nader propaganda. Cheverolet didn't upgrade it right away due to the findings by the gov committee that the car far exceeded handling requirements and out performed many vehicles of the time. They specifically pitted it against the VW bug and determined it was safer in just about every aspect. No one ever says the VW is hard to drive...
Kaleb Brown
calm down, I would rather die in a corvar than lose a leg in a Golf.
BEST_NOOB_BG it's a big deal that that car got smeared like that. It could've changed the entire auto industry. It got decent gas mileage for the time and was a far cry from all the boats america built in the succeeding years.
Kaleb Brown
Well, you can't do much now, can you?
I do agree that it was unfair.
It is true the updated cars are good cars and are insanely collectable now, but the first run of them did suffer handling issues (car had over 100hp while the beetles made barely 50hp. The extra power and weight mated to a chassis that hadn't yet existed it was almost inevitable something would go wrong). While propaganda is always an issue, in the case of the corvair it wasn't entirely false. Also what is to say the testing wasn't rigged. Governments are often bought and paid for by rich men (and W C Durant was a very wealthy man).
But the Corvair was genuinely unsafe. Not to the degree that Nader proposed, but the swing axle design, weight distribution and tire technology of the time... It was pretty unsafe.
The VW comparison is a total fallacy. "Safer in every aspect"? Considering what counted for safety back then, of course such a claim would fly. In reality, the slower, shorter, much better sorted beetle is the safer car (Formula Vee is a thing. Formula Corvair is not).
Also the VW claim is usually made by people who have a hard on for the Corvair. People who forget that other manufacturers were already reeling from the hard-learned lessons about rear engine rear wheel drive designs. AKA its no different than Porsche or Tatra or Renault cars of the era. They were F*cking dangerous to even skilled drivers, and are much more comparable to the Corvair than any year of Beetle. The technology to make them any less dangerous simply didnt exist at the time.
That Gaz 24 Volga sounds amazing!
You are in fact wrong about the Corvair these lies have been spread for too long by Ralph Nader. In 1972 A&M University proved it was not unsafe at any speed. One real fault in the earlier years of Corvairs was the optional heater which if there was a leak could get carbon monoxide in the cabin. These cars handle better than most cars of its era and on par with many of this era.
Funny how those findings still dont negate the dangers of the design, which can be demonstrated in any car like it. Its not "Unsafe at any speed" under controlled conditions by experienced drivers. It can be lethal on a dark backroad in the dew-heavy morning hours.
The handling "better than most cars of its era" comes at the price of stability, just like any other swing axle car of the era.
"On par with many of this era". Not even close. Tire technology, suspension technology, a whole boatload of technology makes sure of that. Its why the design pretty much stayed in that era (and more importantly, was phased out of the corvair in 65). Its pointless now.
orion deschamps It was unsafe with unequal tyre pressures
George barris was also the reason he bashed the corvair and the porsche 550 some folks forget or don't know that he went around the u.s in the 50s /60s bashing in his mind unsafe cars to have on u.s roads showing off James Dean 550 that James Dean died in Harris was a hater and bashed the corvair and porsche 550 do to the fact he didn't like the design but yet his custom cars were fu%king ugly and unsafe as well but yet his custom cars were safe to drive please his cars were unsafe the corvair and 550 were safer cars then his custom cars ...he had a big part in the corvair dieing. his fame won it with his friends and people in the car company so they bashed it unsafe and won bye bye corvair .......a$$holes they were how many people died in the 60s driving corvairs not so many they would of had a case if people driving the corvair in the 60s were dieing in crashes but nope they bashed the cars design and won do to barris fame ....story goes he hid James deans 550 in a building and made up a story on how the car was evil and disappeared on its own and whoever got close to it got hurt and years later the movie christine came out some say that movie was ab James Dean ,barris made up stories on a lot of things and a lot of people went along with him ...i wish I could find that 550 and see if it hurt me it wouldn't bc it was a made up stories to have people talk barris was good at that.....
Fun in skilled hands and dangerous in amateur hands. Liked and subscribed.
The title of the video contradicts with the 15 yo bulgarian boy who drives the Volga 4:50 :D
Pavel Petkov
За 10 метра няма какво да му стане.
Аз на 2 години "карах" жигулата на дядо ми на нивата. Остави ключовете в колата...
Да, имам предвид, че в заглавието пише, че тези автомобили изискват само опитни шофьори.
No
Great video. No need for subtitles, your English is quite good.
6:39 I thought that was sped up! 😂
No, it really was that fast, and it broke a drivers ribs just by the g force it generated..
I love how you started with the Mustang haha
I still love my 1990 5.0 even if I got scared more than I should have driving it x) See it as a wild horse, you have to tame it if you want to have fun, they didn't call it the Mustang for nothing ;)
"Chevrolet refused to upgrade it until the second generation came along". The upgrade WAS the second generation and a suspension tune in the form of a sway bar was offered which corrected the problem.
Partially corrected the problem. The anti roll bar was a band-aid fix. Many owners junked the standard one and fitted the uprated turbo one, *then* it was a fairly effective fix.
The Mercedes A class had an specific problem that was completely solved when Mercedes had sold just some few units. It wasn't solved by including "ESC" (sic), it was solved by changing the geometry of the suspension, lower, wider, stiffer also, and by including ASR and ESP. Any A class of the first generation is outstanding in handling. It even passes the moose test at speeds above many 2018 model cars, including the Porsche Macan. It wouldn't hurt if you did a better research.
THE Corvair was a great car only need a couple of sandbags on front Ralph Nader are one of the reasons you and i drive bubbly looking cars
"A couple of sandbags". Right, so the car is great and nothing is wrong with it, except that you need a few hundred pounds of ballast to make it right. SMH.
Also Nader has nothing to do with "Bubbly looking cars". European advancements in safety and global advancements in aerodynamics have everything to do with it.
Its amazing what people will say to defend a 1960s car which was poorly designed, in an era where the layout was still in its infancy.
you may use some brick just keep it together in the front buddy
You drive bubbly cars because of CAFE, not Nader.
Ralph Nader is why cars have seatbelts, crumple zones, collapsible steering columns, and switches/knobs/buttons that do not gouge our eyes out. He is also why there are recall notices, instead of dealers quietly fixing major issues as vehicles show up for other service.
Thanks for understanding my humor the potato heads before you should learn from you
captain of industry + No it isn't.
I drove mustangs back in 66 and lately and have had no problem with them handling well under all but icy conditions.
next video about easy to drive cars?
clawsss all fwd cars basically
and BMW's. I have a 316 Compact (e36).. just a great car.. beware of the earlier models though.. the ESP is a bit too slow.. which makes it go the wrong way if you correct quicker than the ESP does... when slippery.. switch off ESP, and use Common sense.. ( i managed to drift it round a ¾ Onramp leading to the highwaywith ESP off )
I just have to hand it to you - you make some very enjoyable and informative videos! Keep up the good work! It's appreciated by folks like myself...
where is the dodge viper? :D
Andrej Kostovski dead
Andrej Kostovski think it was in another video
It's in the Widowmakers vid IIRC
Andrej Kostovski The Dodge Viper isn't really any more dangerous than other super cars. it's powerful and rear wheel drive, so there is a chance of overtsteer. But based on it's track times and the POV videos I've seen of average people taking them to the track. They aren't dangerous or above average difficult to drive
Irfan Ghani we know :'(
That Cerbera would've been an insane supercar right now 22 yrs later. Way ahead of its time...
LOL ford mustang tops the list i figured
9 Dangerous cars that strictly require experienced drivers would be a better title, love your videos :)
Of the Porsche 917, you say "Amongst the naturally aspirated versions, there was a Can-Am version which featured the largest 5.4-litre engine and two turbochargers."
Naturally aspirated ... with two turbos. I don't think you know what "naturally aspirated" means.
Amidst a sea of NA engines they made a twin turbo version. He's not saying "amongst their NA engines there was a NA engine with twin turbos". Whats hard to understand about that?
The Porsche 917/30 Can-Am was also called the "Turbo Panzer".
It's so hard to understand what you're saying most of the time. But I like your content
That's why I use the subs.
still amazed how much your channel has grown man been subbed for a good while. English is getting better and better!
The Corvair had a turbocharged option that wss even more dangerous, you know
I had a cop friend who laughed about going on "Range Rover patrol" after the first snowfall of the year - he said that Range Rover (and Lexus) drivers always operated under the laughable idea that their $75K, or more, had purchased them immunity from the laws of motion.
was obvious the Mustang in this video😂
Ricardo Avila
u offended me biatch
Platinumero Nath and what are you doing here, go back to the community
>:V
( Jk dude xD)
Ricardo Avila u neither D:
Ricardo Avila Ford Mustang 2005-2014 experience bad names because of the short wheelbase, traditional style suspension, and somehow lacks LSD. Their brakes are also very hardy. The older and newer Mustangs are better and are popularly used as affordable Drag, Track, or Drift cars.
Platinumero Nath If a video of unsafe cars does not include the Mustang, it is like the video is completed at 50%. Crude reality.
I know the Mustang is a very good car. I like Mustangs but i dont like the drivers....
Landed in JFK in '99 & picked up a rental mustang with a garish metallic golden paint job. It was autumn in Newengland with lots of wet leaves on the road.
When making a left turn in a leafy industrial state, the backend lost grip & slipped barely missing the curb. Luckily I took my foot off the accelerator in time. A nice car but the rear was too twitchy.
I'm a chevy-hatin Ford man, but I gotta admit, the Corvair is a great lookin car....a 62 - 64 Corvair is the only chevy I'd ever consider owning....
Bahaha. As soon as the intro hit, i flipping CALLED THE MUSTANG was going to be on here!
How they manage to get so few hp in tatra from v8 motor :D
Complextro
Low compression because of bad quality fuel.
And low rpm.
And high tolerances.
Complextro It was normal in that era.
Well, it's about 80 year old design. Cars back then had such outputs. Or even lower... On the other hand, some american cars from the late 70s and 80s had not much higher specific outputs.
Or they could just use more advanced valvetrains or injection, just like other (european, japanese) manufacturers did, getting similar power from far smaller engines also sold in the US. Also old american engines were quite overrated in terms of maximum hp because of the measuring method (SAE Gross), which added even 1/3 power compared to european methods or later used SAE Net.
Its old, quite small, low compression, has heavy internals and doesnt breathe very well.
Those tatra V8s get pushed to the 200hp region sometimes. They're scary!
By the way, the handling qualities of the Mister 2 are what made the damn car popular. Vehicle sales declined when Toyota tamed them and basically made it a two seater Camry.
mustangs are dangerous? what the fuck you are talking about? not bewcause some stupid make stupid things with it that it makes it dangerous... its only because it is so affordable that kids buy it and make burnout and crash..i had one and i never had any problem with it...
That's exactly what they said.
falouchelo Oh, I TOTALLY agree!!! The reason why the Ford Mustang gets a bad rap is because, like you said, the cocky 16-25 year old dudes (sometimes middle-aged men and Danica Patrick wannabe women) drive them HARD like it's a real sports car. They don't realize that the Mustang is inherently nose-heavy, the suspension (including on the GT) is more set-up for straight-line performance, even though their handling is decent in its class and depending on engine option, they can be overwhelmingly powerful! I'm talking about Ford Mustangs before the S550. The only Mustangs that have had handling chops are: 1993 SVT Cobra, 1995 SVT Cobra R, 1999, 2001 SVT Cobra, 2000 SVT Cobra R, 2003, 2004 Terminator Cobra, 2003, 2004 MACH 1, 2012, 2014 BOSS 302 and BOSS 302 Laguna Seca and the 2006 Ford Shelby GT as well as the 2008 GT500KR. Lastly there are aftermarket companies making Mustangs handle very well as well as go in a straight line, too like Roush, Steeda, American Muscle, Saleen, Shelby American, RTR, Late Model Restoration, Ford Performance, and so much more!!! You see, when in more responsible and knowledgeable hands, the Ford Mustang is NOT a dangerous car after all!
I’m giving this a thumbs up because someone had the balls to say the solid rear axle Mustang isn’t good
The RidgeLine advertising in front of this was unintentionally hilarious.
Stratopolonez was very dangerous car. It had powerful engine from WRC Lancia Stratos, chassis from WRC Stratos and it haven't any aerodynamic downforce.
Before first race it was not tested, and at first race this car has turned around three times! But it won that race
What's more funny - it has mid‐engine placement in 3‐door car :D I mean there's no easy‐accessable frame bodywork like every rally and racing car had. Mechanics have to get INTO the car to maintain the engine :D Hahaha.
There were actually several improvements Chevrolet made before the second generation including a front anti-roll bar and a camber compensating transverse leaf spring.
When the boss of TVR turns round and proclaims his car to be too scary, you know it’s dangerous.
Haha, A-Class for sure, once saw one come down the slope into my old work too fast, hit the corner at the bottom flipped onto its side and slide across the yard into a wall. Went and helped the driver out and made sure he was alright, first words out of his mouth; "Thats the second f***ing time thats happened, I should have gotten my money back".
I had an early mark 2 mr2. I let my dad drive it for the first time in the wet. Got into a spin putting the power down. Did well to save it. Had to do a few saves myself while I owned it for a few years. Always in the wet and esp. in snow / ice. On the other hand it could change direction really quick. I once had to avoid a car really quickly at 70mph, I steered rapidly and the car pulled it off, the rear wheels skidding out a little actually assisted the rapid turn. Times I had trouble was in the wet under heavy braking or acceleration, it could snap out. Had to catch it really quick once or die. My own fault I pushed it way too hard in the wet late at night. Also once I lost it in a corner but caught it positioned the angle and waited for it to grip again. Then drove off. That was fun and a thrill to pull it off. I'm older and wiser now though.
2:03 *insert *to be continued* meme here*
THANK YOU FOR INCLUDIN THE VOLGA I FINALLY HEARED ITS V8 ENGINE SOUNDS IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR A VID WITH IT FOR OVER A YEAR
The Porche 917/30 was built in 1973 and it was not unusual to have your feet ahead of the front axle in those days. It was not mandated in F1 to have feed behind the front axle until 1988.
Racing drivers in those days went to A LOT of funerals.
I had an A-Class and a Corvair. People should know their limitations
just so the poster knows, I'm fairly certain the 917 was a flat 12 QUAD turbo, it's one of the few cars ever that the driver actually had the ability to turn the boost UP and DOWN from his seat! Fun Fact!
That TVR Speed 12 is a monster of a car.
The mustang is called the crowd killer for a reason I still want one
I not only drove, but raced a '61 Corvair Monza. Its handling was fine, but it did require the driver to stay on top of things. In the wet, however, you had to take it easy. With decent tires and the correct tire pressure it could be made to change direction incredibly quickly. It was very unforgiving, though.
For racing, limit straps were required for the swing axles. I had a blower engine which I never got to put in the car, but that would have put out 180 hp! The four carb Monza was a very healthy 140, though.
my singer sewing machine is the most dangerous hahahahaha
I think these cars require more than experienced drivers. Such as fuel, oil, a working battery, wheels, controls of some sort, perhaps some coolant, etc.
that first california special was lookin good 👀
The Corvair lacked a stabilizer bar in the first generation. Chevy sold the stabilizer bar, but it was optional, at $12.50 per example. when the second generation came, out the stabilizer bar was standard.
The Ford Mustang is also considered dangerous because they sold the cheaper versions without safety equipment...You had to buy the upmarket version if you wanted the safety stuff, and the competition had it as standard. That's also why.
I think you forgot to put in the Ford Capri V6. The 4-pot Capri is nice handling, however, due to the more power and torque the V6 can be lethal to unexperienced drivers. This is also because of the weight in the front of the V6. They can have snap oversteer... I have driven both models, and yes the V6 can be a handfull especially if you do not watch out in the wet.
another great upload
when the tvr owner said the speed 12 was too brutal with it breaking the dyno and too noisy all the perfect reasons to make it a street car to purely piss people off
When TVR say a car is too dangerous to put into production then you know it must be mental. Airbags? nope. Traction control? nope. Antilock breaks? nope. Crumple zones? nope. I miss TVR.
Great job. Your videos are great and I also enjoy the voice over too
8:53 sounds VERY similar to a datsun 240Z
My dad has flipped his old MR2 before, thankfully he came out unharmed
I can think of one car that's known as the Widowmaker among highway patrolman back in 1972 Dodge came out with a model called the polara and under the hood was powered by 440 Magnum V8 with a special cam set up in the engine and being a heavy car as it was the car was certified to do at least 140 miles per hour but it had terrible steering when in high speed Pursuit with an experienced Highway Patrol officers behind the wheel.
These Tatras are seriously cool.
Nothing funnier than watching the Mustang do it's dance.
All new mustang now have independent rear suspension which means the car is nice to drive and easier to control, so there are no more excuses for people to crash it unless they seriously cant handle a muscle car
you know what I did with everything i knew about cars as a kid.. Just imagined one day the million dollar question will be about an obscure car no one even heard of..
This guy made a youtube series instead.
I think you are right about the mustang. Easy to afford, inexperienced drivers.
We're gonna be doing one thang and one thang only, killin' nayzis