ULTIMATE BMW M2 Guide 👌 (OG vs Comp vs CS) (The Holy Trinity) *Real world owners
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2020
- In September 2020 I met up with Chris Kerr (AKA Whiskeytwentyone) and Matt Smart from @SytnerTV to look at the development of arguably one of the best BMW M cars to ever be made.
Launched in 2016 - the BMW M2 was a head liner grabber from day one. loved by journalists and enthusiasts alike, the car was an instant classic.
In 2018 - The critics of the OG M2 were answered with the launch of the BMW M2 Competition. Gone was the single turbo n55 engine, in came the s55 from the M3/M4 variants. But whilst it was the engine that grabbed the headlines, the reality was that the chases and handling was the big leap forward. Again, the car received huge praise from all corners... but it wasn't without its controversy...
With new EU regulations came more stringent exhaust emission standards and OPF filters!
Finally, the swan song! The M2 CS was launched only a few weeks ago, with orders of the limited run now completely sold out. is this the ultimate version of one of BMW's most recent success stories... Or a step too far????
We met up at Caffeine & Machine to discuss and debate the 4 years of evolution along with an "exhaust off" for you to enjoy...
But what would you do?
Which model would you buy?
I look forward to hearing your thoughts
you can check out Chris Kerr (whiskeytwentyone) on Instagram here: / whiskeytwentyone
And Matt's You Tube channel here: / @sytnertv
Huge thank you also goes to Marcus for the amazing camera and drone work: / marcusjperks
Cheers All
CMD X - Авто та транспорт
Agree I’m an M2 owner, I test drove a comp as was planning to upgrade, I didn’t, just realised I genuinely prefer the OG
I love the sound and drama of the OG 😛
Completely understand why chap - each to their own and all have great characteristics
The best one is the one with a manual gearbox.
If you say so Lawrence x
Yawn 🥱
Agreed, albeit we are a dying breed. To the end with honor my friend. - 2014 M235i manual owner.
Have you driven an M2C with DCT? Coming from an E46 M3 to a 2020 M2C with DCT, I enjoy the M2 much more the M3. Admittedly the transmission in the E46 M3 wasn’t one of BMW’s better moments, with a tail happy car like the M2C I’m quite happy to enjoy faster than humanly possible shifting with both hands on the wheel.
Have you driven an M2C with DCT? Coming from an E46 M3 to a 2020 M2C with DCT, I enjoy the M2 much more the M3. Admittedly the transmission in the E46 M3 wasn’t one of BMW’s better moments, with a tail happy car like the M2C I’m quite happy to enjoy faster than humanly possible shifting with both hands on the wheel.
Another thumbs up. I’m another M2 OG manual owner - 2 years ownership and lucky to have driven a Comp. Totally agree with the verdict. Great to finally find a review of all generations.
Cheers dude 👍
Hope you enjoyed the video and thank you for the awesome comments
Great video lads!
Cheers Joe
Constantly reaching for your benchmark dude
The perfect M2 guide, very helpful but also fun. Thanks for the great content!!
Cheers chappy - really appreciate that 🏆🤚😉
You can add 500 or 700hp to the newer models but i’ll take the OG cause of that exhaust note thats the best sensation when driving
Thank you for the comment and thoughts chap - i'm inclined to agree with you ;0)
Great video! Just got myself an M2 CS 6mt and couldn’t be more pleased.
Cheers for that chappy
And CONGRATULATIONS on the purchase - sounds like a good buy 😌
Great video, I've just copped an OG M2 and it's my dream car. Manual too
Cheers Olly - well worth a look of it works for you 👏🏼
Loved the video mate, and really enjoyed being a part of it, really was a brilliant day!
Star of the show dude... x
Love your car - very nice color! 😉
@@ZoplerDadatt Cheers man - i like it too but i'm a tad biased ;0)
I was on the market for an M2 when the M2C came out. I heard it, and just like in your video, I said to myself there is no way my first M car is going to sound like that...so I went for a new LBB M2 OG for a bargain price and could not be happier!
That's great to hear chap - love the colour choice as well ;0)
Cheers for the view and comment
This was such an excellent video!! Very realistic perspectives and comparisons on each model. Thank you! 👏🏽🙏🏽
Cheers fella - really appreciate it x
Please share / tell friends 👍
Great video, with some nice insight. OG M2 will be my next car and this has helped me to know I am making the right decision.
Mate that’s awesome. Thank you so much for the view and comment - a pleasure to be of some service 🤪
Awesome video dude, and what a day it was.
Onward and upward buddy
Fantastic review, you answered all the questions I was asking in my head, mainly which one!
Luke
Great to hear chap
Dale, bro, the soundtrack is mega. Great music buddy. A fun video. Can’t wait to get the 2x comps together.
Awesome dude - thank you and yes - soon!!!
Do you know what the soundtrack maybe?
Thanks for a great vid. I’ve just fitted some carbon bits to my lci M2, every time i Drive it hard it is just such a great buzz (totally stock except for pipercross panel)..... As It’s now out of Warranty it’s time to start modding me thinks. I really like all variants..... But wouldn’t swap one for another and there’s nothing else I really want so mods route it is! Great vid guys.
Amazing comment Max. Love the carbon on the OG M2 - make sure you send us some pics when the mods come in....
Great video…OG is so intense !! I love it
Cheers fella 👍
Fantastic breakdown. Cheers from the other side of the pond. :)
Your very welcome kind sir x
Good comparison👍 one of the best
Glad you liked it
Got my OG LBB just under 34k. Have since spent £7k in mods which include the engine brace from the M3/4/M2C/M2CS and it makes the ride more compliant and sorts the chassis out. Got a milltek 300cel sports cat and the sound from stock exhaust is heavenly. Heard an M2C in a car park and anaemic is the term to use there! Also putting a larger bore turbo inlet has let it rev to red line better, that and chargepipe change (they can break) and upgraded FMIC.
Sounds like you've been busy chap - thank you for the view and comment
@@CarMadDad also fitted LCI guages as mine is pre LCI, metal pedals (common BMW!), Red starter button, rear CF wing and diffuser (OEM), auto ID M2C style mirror covers, black grilles. Last want is the Litchfield suspension!
@@peterwood2633 Sounds quality chappy
Loved the video mate and what a great day we had making it 👍
Ditto chap - thank you for being a part of it and organising #InMattWeTrust
Great video I just picked up an og M2 lbb and I was being kinda sad that everyone has been telling me that i should gotten a competition.
After seeing the video I'm happy with my choice now .
I'm not looking for insane power, I'm looking to have good fun and a reliable car. The n55 of the M2 is a closed deck block with forged crank and rods , a bit different from other n55 engines
OG has its own personality dude - ENJOY 😉
Great work ..!
Cheers Mike. xxx
Good to see you guys agree with me. OG all the way.. maybe I shouldnt sell?!
She’s a keeper Twitch 🤗🤗🤗
S55 power
@@stacked911 n55 is in the og and sounds lot better
Great video! I'm looking to buy either a F80 m3, OG m2 or F82 m4, all non comp as budget is £32k and buying out right. Selling my c63 and the cars have to tick all sound, performance and the way it looks. Looks and performance is there on all the M cars above but sound is my biggest gripe, which is why I do prefer the M2. This video puts a great case forward for the M2. Decisions decisions.
Thank you for the view and comments Bob - A good (but difficult) conundrum you have there. Enjoy the "shopping"
I just picked up a 2020 M2C DCT and I’m really excited about it. I have an E46 M3 which I still really enjoy but the M2C is an amazing car.
Awesome dude - enjoy x
Awesome video, I am right now on the market for M2. Here in the states the OG M2 prices are crazy expensive. I might just order myself a new M2 Comp at the used price point and the color I want. Hok Silver with the red stitching seats.
Cheers for the view and comment Ken. Sounds like some good choices made there 👍
Great video! I own a M2 Comp. And have a M2 CS in order. Here is how I see it:
$9K for the carbon ceramics
$8k for the for them extra CF parts (interior/exterior/body parts)
$3K for the better leather and additional Alcantara
$4K for the better suspension
$2K for the wheels
$1K for the GOLD wheels LOL
$1.5K more power
$5K for exclusivity
Base M2 Comp: $65K
We are are $98.5K
I believe that the sticker on my CS is $94K.
So, we are “within range”. No “deal” but about right.
Tim thank you so much for your positive comments.
Congratulations on the purchase - bet you are super excited.
Make sure you get some content up on the exclusive beast
CMD 👍
I appreciate the overall video, good job man,
👍
@@CarMadDad Hey chief, just was wondering about a point you made in the video..
You thought the OG was more suited for track, could you elaborate why you feel that? wouldnt the m2c/m2cs have alot of track ready-ness?
@@qna95B hi chap 👋
For me I felt the OG was more suited as the lighter car - seemed happier with sharper turn in and the N55 unit just loved being used and abused.
Still contemplating an OG as a track weapon - for me I would head there before the comp / CS which ironically are better road cars as they handle B roads and undulating roads much better.
Only my thoughts though chappy 👍
@@CarMadDad interesting points!
As a potential buyer this is a great vid
That's great to hear Andrew - appreciated chappy
Some good points brought up. The CS everyday driveability an interesting point. That the new suspension upgrade has made so much of a difference. I've yet to see/hear the American CS myself but the CO2 emissions certainly affect that exhaust note. What is it about the OG that makes it more track friendly than the Comp? I thought the Comp was upgraded for better track performance rather than streetride?
Cheers for your thoughts and comment bud.
I can only speak for myself having owned both (now run and track my comp) but the OG comes “out of the box” track ready for me - where as the comp as stock is heavier and so needs turning “onto the tyre” in corners. Nothing that a few small modifications didn’t fix... mine ended up on Eibach springs and spacers along with a geometry set up and now it’s awesome on track.
It’s all in the car - just needed to be bought out whereas the OG came good to go on track in my opinion out of the box!
@@CarMadDad Yes I understand exactly what your saying especially that you can feel that extra weight difference and in your cornering. I have been considering whether to go M Performance or otherwise and gathering as much info as I can. Thanks, Love your channel.
Cheers chap and thank you for the positivity
Good luck with the research and development of your beast!
Some good points of merits . A recent review I saw of the M2CS indicated that the CS is nearly 2 seconds quicker than the comp over 0~100mph thou
Having driven the car now chap I can see how that might be the case but I’m not sure that a cheeky remap and suspension upgrades wouldn’t help get either model there also and keep some change in your pocket!
Don’t forget the CS comes with cup 2 which is good for headlines and of little use outside a track. Had 3 cars with them and they are amazing only if it’s dry and warm. Which the U.K. is not often.
Just bought a mint, 1 owner, 25,900 mile OG M2.
I'd have bought the M2C but for the same mileage they are still 12-15 grand more.
Sounds like a bargain chap - enjoy
@@CarMadDad Thanks for the reply matey.
I did look at a few, some were £24,000 ish but much higher mileage, and I wanted the best I could afford.
This car will be kept standard, and pampered !
Sounds awesome chap
Great video, can I ask what exhaust you’ve got on the Comp and what mm spacers? Thanks
Remus courtesy of Motech Performance chap - the 🐶 🥜
Just the M135i and the last "35i"s in general, as well as the og M2 came with the N55 engine. The M140i or all of the "40i"s come with the B58. Nice video tho, keep up the good work.
Cheers for the correction Gabi. And thank you for the positive comments - legend ✊
That’s hilarious the armrest honestly stopped me from buying one. I agree 100%
What did you go for instead Darrin?
I took myself an OG M2 . No regret. It has the best sound. No doubt about it... Great vid guys
Cheers buddy - appreciated ✌️
cant wait!
Hope you enjoy it chap
Just in final stages of the edit
A 1M would’ve made a great comparison for how far the M2 has, or hasn’t, come!
Great vid, the CS is perfect but can’t really warrant the extra money over a comp
Getting a 1M onto this video would have been a dream chap... Watch this space!!! Cheers for the view and comments.
1M is best bmw ever, 80k euros, compared to 40k of m2 :(
Great video, thanks for taking the time. I would say however that you mention the N55 is 'straight out of the M135i and M140i'. The N55 in the M2 is quite far removed from the N55 in the M135i and of course the M140i has the B58. Having said this I'm sure you know this and it's easy to say the wrong thing when you are filming :-). Keep up the good work!
Cheers for confirming - yes aware of that however having said it in person (and then edited the video) still hadn't noticed my mistake.
Easy to say silly things to cameras!
Cheers for the view dude
The suspension hasn’t changed it’s the rear subframe bushes to the chassis are solid mounted now in the comp instead of a rubber bushings in the OG m2.
Hey Rayz 🙋🏻♂️
I didn’t know that chappy - thank you for filling in the gaps... sounds like a small change for a big difference!
All the M2's are good. I have the 2018 OG w/DCT and executive package in mineral grey and it's a looker. A lot of compliments.
Agreed Sir. Sounds like yours is very similar to W21 on the video. Cracking little rocket!
mineral gray is such a nice colour for this car, pair it up with acid orange highlights, and you have yourself a M2 GTS! very cool colour combo
anyone of these cars would put a smile on your face , i have the 2018 lci with dct never thought of ug it just love it iv'e also had the 1m in valencia orange another one of bmw's fab cars tbh the sound was well above all the m2's
Agreed chappy 👍
This vid makes me feel pretty special. I just picked up a one owner, completely standard, non crashed, fully BMW serviced with complete records from new OG M2 for 14k.
I THINK I may have snagged the cheapest OG M2 on the planet...
What a car for the money dude - congrats!
I'm off onto AutoTrader!!!
@@CarMadDad You may be surprised to learn I am in Japan. 😅
Ah 👋 😂
Great video! I’m personally still so undecided between the OG M2 and M2 Comp for my next car. As mental as it sounds, the seats in the OG M2 are a bit turn off for me but I’m not sure if I’m just being stupid! Time will tell I guess..
Cheers for the view and comment Dan.
Completely understand you thoughts on the seats however owning both the OG and Comp I can assure you there are not massive differences between the two for me at 5ft 9 and 12 stone
Obviously will vary from height and weight / shape.... That being said aesthetically they are miles apart 😆
yeah, don’t get me wrong... I’m sure they’re comfortable but so is my sofa and that would look pants in an M2 😂 I think I’m edging towards a comp at the moment but need to get behind the wheel of an OG I think!
Yeah make sure you get a good run in both dude... good news is it’s a win win!!
@@CarMadDad I bought an OG M2 in LBB and collecting it on Saturday!
Same I wish I could swap m2 comp seats in the og m2
For the cars to sound better you need to let them run for a minute in idle then they are louder, after every start of warm
Or not they go in a kind of cold start where they don’t pop an bang
Cheers Dennis - well aware and all cars had a good drive just before and were allowed to tick over.
@@CarMadDad That’s not what I was trying to say. Even if the car is warm it takes like a minute after starting again for it to do the pops and bangs when standing still and reving
But would you pick up a 1 series m instead of a base m2? If you can find a late low mile one, which has better aftermarket support if any?
That’s a tough one chap. In truth I’m a big fan of both but if they are same money it’s the real M car for me 👌
OG M2 prices are holding strong here in Canada
Rightly so chap - great to hear!
Great video lads, currently in the market for a M car so this video may have persuaded me to go M2 😎
Cheers chappy - appreciate the view and comment. Cant go far wrong with an OG - Just be wary of the spring rate and "crashy" ride. For me the Comp is the more settled and capable (but obviously you pay a price for this)!
@@CarMadDad no problem 😊 I've sold my C63 not long back so the M2 is the replacement of choice especially after watching your video. It will be a downgrade in noise but should be a fun time lol! Check out our UA-cam channel, we have some Performance Car reviews 👍
Great videos man, keep it up 👍😎
Awesome chap. Big fan of the sound those things make (but that’s about all I like) 😂
Awesome - will have a goosey gander later!!!
@@CarMadDad the noise they make is addictive 😎🤣
Thanks mate 👍
Best I keep my OG then!🤣
Looks that way Kev x
What’s that first song in the video? After the exhaust comparison? Thanks
Hi chap - not sure now matey - i purchased it off audio network once upon a time - sorry i cant help
Maybe shazam it???
Interesting and surprised. Assumed you would all choose the comp.
Don’t get me wrong dude
I live my Comp and can’t imagine replacing it - but bang for buck the OG can’t be beaten
Maybe in few years I will take a OG M2 and build like M2CS (bodykit), cause I prefer N55 engine and put Armytrix exhaust.
Sounds like a plan chappy
Oh and I had the GT4 conversation with Porsche and they wouldn’t sell me a GT4. Hence the M2C.
Soo many people say that dude... wonder how many GT4’s could have been sold 🤔???
There is a CS near me with 12,000 miles for $100,000. That's the real price of one, not the sticker. The OG is around $42,000 normally off lease with about 24,000 miles on them. So actually you could by 2 OG with some to spare in North Carolina, USA.
That sounds about right now chap
So is 2016 a good pick for this car or should I go 2018? What improvements did they make?
I’ve not heard of any gripes with earlier models chap.
BMW are always making marginal improvements to cars so arguably the newer the better but a low mileage early example will no doubt be solid 👌
M2 vs M2 Comp vs M2 CS; put a decent suspension (like Öhlins Road and Track) on the OG M2 and the handling will better then the other two cars. It's what I did ;)
Having driven all 3 chap - I agree with some of what you’ve said - certainly as capable on track - on the road however the CS is a different gravy
I think that OG M2 N55b engine sounds better!
However M2c and CS are the better car in terms of power.
But different engine and OG M2 is fairly reasonable price.
I love my OG M2! That morning cold starts.
And less wet-fart sounds awesome! 😍
Cheers for the view and comment chappy - much appreciated 🤗🤗🤗
Ive had the OG a now I have the CS, I have to be honest, but the OG has a terrible engine at that power output, the turbo is far to small and heat soaks before you are even out of 2nd. Also, the suspension is terrible. The seats are rubbish too, they look like the came out of the 1.8D..
The CS, in my opinion is one of the best driving, best looking and most balanced car I've ever owned and I think it's worthy of its price tag.
Finaly, I think less than 100 cars made it to the UK due to the pandemic, making this a very rare car to own. BTW, I use it as a daily.
Good video mind 👍
Cheers for the view and thoughts David.
May I know the sound track fro this video?
It was purchased via audio network chap
“Church”
My M2 CS has the 405 horsepower engine not the 444 HP engine as advertised. BMW's official documentation (MCO/MSO) for my car shows that it came with the 405 HP engine. I contacted BMW North America on April 19,2021 about the horsepower discrepancy. They refuse to address my concerns.
Hi Mary
Thank you for the view and comments. I’m not sure if you are aware - but the engine (“unit”) in the comp and CS are the same (S55) the major difference in the coding and BHP output and so I would HOPE that there is a basic error somewhere… Have you tested the car at all???
Og m2 is an absolute bargain and a great car.
But, I have driven OG loads and literally thought “needs more power” every time I got out of it. 🤣 Otherwise good vid guys!
Cheers chap. Your obviously a more capable driver than i am (doesn't take much)... Nothing a stage 2 would fix i suspect?
I thought the same (I own an OG M2 DCT): Really enough power but a little bit more would be great. I upgraded to Stage 2: CSF intercooler, HJS 300cpi downpipe, alloy chargepipe and a pipercross air filter. It is dyno tuned with 430HP and 660Nm of torque with a great sound! Now I think that is the correct power and torque level for this car, the engine feels like it is supposed to be from factory. Absolutely recommended for every M2 OG owner! Greetings from Germany ✌️
@@ZoplerDadatt Amazing feedback and comment chap - thank you very much x
I've driven an OG M2 for admittedly only 30 mins and at no time did i think it was underpowered for the road 🤣 it's the constant need for more power that's ruining drivers cars making them huge bloated pigs. Imo the M2 was quick but made me feel nothing as a drivers car. The steering has no feel and it felt bloated for its size but that's my opinion and loads of people rate them...
Thanks for sharing Patrick - everyone’s entitled to an opinion and the beauty of it is that we all think differently.
I hear what you are saying on power... some of the most fun I’ve had in the last few years motoring was in a Suzuki swift sport!!!
Just came from an RS3 to an OG 18 plate M2, my first BMW. I thought the sound would be a deal breaker...I was very wrong! The N55 sounds very good in the M2. The handling is just night and day as well. I have to say the M2 is a much better overall package.
Great to hear it chappy - welcome to the dark side!
Yep, the rs3 is just a drag car. M2 is designed for faster drivers and enthusiasts
@@TerrannotOP to be fair to the RS3 it’s far from just a drag car. It very good at that but then again so is any AWD car. Look at the big power GTR’s and Huracan’s as well.
16:10 I dont know i just find this final description of all the cars to be so funny Xd
Glad you were entertained 👍
They should have put the B58 and ZF8 into the competition M2. That would have been the ultimate usable ‘M’ car
Don’t think the M division consider “usable” when they develop the car chap - maybe it doesn’t translate into German 🤣
What do you think those units would have over the S55?
@@CarMadDad the S58 is only just coming out, the S55 and it’s inherent crank pulley issue and DCT gearbox qwerks is what let’s the car down to some degree.
The ZF8 is a superb box and is in all new M cars, mated to the B58 with a mild tune power figures of around 430bhp are easily achieved.
What makes the OG M2 so great is it’s road manners and usability it gets from the N55
All the power up top and MAD high revs of the S55 makes it harder to exploit its potential as a road car, which is where they spend 99% of there time
@@avalaugh1980 Agree with all points made chap. I plan on addressing the crank hub at some stage in the future but am hopeful of making it beyond three years before I have to do so!
I'm a huge fan of the OG and the N55.
Love the ZF8 as I have and still do own cars with the box.
I think that the S55 in the comp however adds to its character and that the DCT box (Although not as friendly day to day) again points back to how the car is developed - for track work.
Agreed not many of them will go there - but to me im glad it was developed that way as its what i plan to use it for as much as possible.
@@CarMadDad I’m under no illusion, if I could have afforded one new I would have got one, but got a new 3 series touring in 2015 and a new M140i in 2019, both of which I love, still have, and work well with 2 kids 👍
2:38 OG N55 M2
2:59 S55 Comp M2
Cheers fella
The part numbers of suspension parts are exactly the same on the OG M2 and the M2 Competition.
Yeah I’ve heard this a few times - maybe a weight difference?
Either way the car behaves very differently
Should have grabbed the Super m2 into the mix🤣
Always happy to compare other variants chappy 😂
Try to make a decision now m2 vs m2 comp.... it will be my Daily
comp for a daily IMHO chap
@@CarMadDad I think I am going to choose the comp. I have a F80 for the weekends and for right now a 2011 C63 as my daily, I want a coupe so C63 has to go, I also need to see what spec. Fits me
Do this again but swap the CS for the new one!
Great idea 💡
The best value would be the Comp as it has more power and better interior over the OG . The OG sounds better than the Comp which to be fair is a easy fix . The CS is a collectors car , if I was rich I would buy all three
Agreed chappy
Cheer for the comments 🙏🏻
i mean it's practically the same interior, only diff is seats and gauge cluster lol
@@KareemKayy Gauge cluster is available on the OG M2 in LCI guise which is September 2017 -> September 2018. It's literally the seats.
@@AliveGhost13 well i own the pre-lci, so i dnt got it haha but ya i feel you!
@@KareemKayy nice, I have an LCI coming next Friday, can't wait!!
What exhaust is that on the M2C?
Remus Axle back race chap - there’s an install video on the channel if you want more info 🤗
Thanks, awesome video by the way, I'm back on the OG M2 trail now 🤣
@@dstev55 Awesome dude - cheers x
I have to disagree with the OG M2. Had one and that engine is a bit flat. Might have sounded ok but had no top end. Change gear at 4-5-7k rpm same thing. No point revving it up. Ended up selling it. Eying the M2 Comp hoping the engine might feel a bit more special.
CS makes no sense for me. You can get the M2C to the same level with a few choice mods. Love the looks but again, not sure worth the price at all.
Fair enough Rossino. Thank you for the view and your comments. You certainly are not alone with your thoughts.
I would imagine the S55 should tick the boxes for you in that department.
I agree that a stock OG M2 does feel a bit flat. I modified mine over these last 3 years since buying and each subsequent mod made an incremental increase to how the engine felt, particularly at the mid to top end. 300 cell cat, larger intercooler, metal charge pipe were first and made a slight difference but was felt more on hot days with the IC helping with inlet temps.
Next up was the Eventuri carbon intake, again another slight increase in top end feel. Then came the M Performance exhaust, bum dyno says it's faster but in reality it probably isn't, then a forge boost pipe (for reliability) and then a mild remap of which this seems to have tied all the mods together and now the car is noticeably stronger at the top end. Now you can rev it out to around 6.5k and the car feels more satisfying to drive with the added mid / top end urge.
As for the M2C, YES the engine does make the car feel more special, it does feel more 'M' and due to the extra weight the car does ride better but IMO my OG has bags more character than the S55 engined car due to the sound. Of course that can be rectified with equal length pipes, OPF removal and a nicer udder free back box but that little lot is quite the sum of money.
OG m2 is the best option for most enthusiast. M2 CS is for people with deep pockets. Not worth to upgrade to m2 comp or caps until you lapping at the nur every weekend
I think the comp runs and rides British roads better than the OG if your using the car daily chap. Just another opinion 👍
@@CarMadDad I agree with this 100%, been on the UK roads only 3 times in my lifetime.
Your not missing much 😂
IMO the CS is a waste of money for the extra price. I did consider this before I settled on the Comp.
That's the beauty of it Rob - theres a car for everyone here! Nice to have the option of the CS and pleased to hear the Comp worked for you... What's your ownership experience been like so far?
@@CarMadDad it’s an excellent car, but I’ve had problems.
Electrical
Headlight
Structural
I’ve had Audi, Mercedes, now BMW & the latter is the worst customer service I’ve ever had.
The whole concept of the M series is awesome, just sometimes the reality isn’t.
@@robjones7367 Thats a shame to hear you've had a bad experience with the product and customer service... Always takes the shine off a super special product if it isn't up to scratch or service is lacking.
Who are you dealing with?
@@CarMadDad Swansea BMW have been great, despite the problems. It’s BMW’s main customer service and BMW Assist that have been a complete nightmare.
M2cs sounds weak ! Good video having said that !
Cheers dude
Appreciated 🙌🏻
CS = M2 Comp for me and a nice hot hatch for the wife...(If I had that money)..
Seems like a sensible decision Dean
Sooo M2 Competition it is. Seems like the best mix of both worlds without paying a ridiculous price tag of the CS.
I would tend to agree matey (but I may be biased) 😛
Cut the back box out of the Comp and half the dpf it's 300 quid and sounds way better than the OG, the comp looks so much better than the OG plus the interior is way better.
I’m inclined to agree Benn - subjective but fair point
@@CarMadDad totally agree, still all 3 amazing cars I've had the F80 Comp OG M2 ams Now Comp M2, my current car is my favourite overall, I just wish it had a carbon roof and heads up like my F80, I can deal without the grey leather dash.
Great video BTW I'm surprised no one else has really done this 👍
Cheers buddy
Really appreciated
Any help sharing the content always useful too 👍
If you own an OG M2 keep it as the best bargain. If you own an M2C keep it as the M car it should have always been. If you have an M2CS keep it as the ultimate M2. They all have different characters: OG M2 is more nimble, the M2C rides best, the CS is an expensive, accessorised and retuned M2C with full M4C power but disappointingly heavier like the M2C. This noise difference for M2C and CS is irrelevant out of EU and UK - no particulate filters to choke it. The CS bonnet is *FAKE* since the track M2CS Racing has an M2C bonnet! THE SUSPENSION DIFFERENCE IN M2C IS UP FRONT - THE CARBON STRUT!
Cheers for your thoughts and comments Nes. Hope you enjoyed the video 😽
M2 og reviews
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M2 comp all the way, the OG lacks something the competition has in terms of handling and power, of course you can mod the m2 but to me the s55 will always be above the n55 it came after the og m2 for a reason and in my country the difference between both is like 8-10k which tbh isn’t that much if ur a little patient
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M2 Comp all day save the rest for stage 2 etc
Cheers for your thoughts Michael
Guys just bought a M2 Comp... what is this issue about the crank hub failure??😱
Not too sure on this Chris - might be worth hitting up the forums?
Known issue with S55 engines. More details here:
www.litchfieldmotors.com/blog/bmw-f8x-m3m4-m2-competition-crank-hub-issue/
Cheers Lawrence 👍👍
LBB is the best color there
Glad you like it chap. I’m certainly a fan too!
@@CarMadDad I may be a bit biased as we drive the same car lol
A man of impeccable taste 👅
the real og is the pre facelift
Noted 👌
Completely disagree with this video. I owned a 2016 DCT OG M2 and daily drove it for 2 years, and when I got rid of it, I thought it was one of the most overrated cars i've ever owned. The DCT dump shifts and unsettles the rear axle in sport and sport+, the ride is appalling and its impossible to get any grip on the street because of those two things and the steering is totally lifeless. The N55 is a boring engine for a sports car, cause it ultimately doesn't really like to be pushed. It works in a 435i, not in the M2. I sold it and never missed it, found it to be totally boring.
Because of this, I initially turned down an M2 CS allocation. After all the rave reviews, I was fortunate enough to grab a 6spd at MSRP before the sold out. Absolutely one of the best cars i've ever owned, amazingly compliant suspension, steering has great feel for an EPAS system, the CS tune of the S55 has tons of character and great linear power delivery and the gearbox is great for a BMW. I'm 1 year and 6 months into ownership, and i don't see myself ever selling it. The CS badge was never supposed to be a "track car", in fact M's internal brief on the car said "track focused with an eye on street use". They nailed that car, its worth what it costs.
Cheers for the view and comments Damian. Fully understand your reasoning and opinion - hope you continue to enjoy the CS 👍
The original car is the one to go for, I think the cs will lose more in depreciation in the next 3 years than it would cost to buy the original.
Also if you have £90k to spend on a car I would rather get 2 and have a dedicated track/ weekend car and a daily driver.
Cheers for the view and thoughts Lawrence chap. Food for though ay 🤔
so buy a cayman gt4, gotcha
If you are looking at M2CS money - YES!
I think the Comp car is the obvious sweet spot considering the S55, 6 piston brakes and other upgrades like suspension you mentioned. You guys are just being kind to your buddy there for some reason, modest Brits. The OG/N55 is certainly not the best track weapon with known oil starvation issues at track, plus oil leaks, water pump failures; not the best engine here to over stress. Twin turbo’s are better than 1 for less lag and more power as 6 piston front and 4 piston rear larger brakes are certainly better for track day. What are you guys smoking?
Hilarious how the OG owners are like, “I totally agree, the OG is better..”. Lol
I don’t have a horse in this race, I have a ‘21 Audi RS5 B9.5 Sportback with carbon ceramic brakes that would smoke that OG and Comp all day long, but still would love the Comp or CS to add to my collection.🍺
Cheers 👋
You drive a numb boring Audi, opinion invalidated.
That rap was horrific, BTW.
Feel free to submit a better version! ;0)
Drag them :-)
Would love to Nicolas
Do you happen to know anyone who owns an air strip they’d be willing to lend us for the day? 😬
@@CarMadDad ask carwow 😎😅
You couldn’t give them an ask for me could you 🤣🤣🤣
OG M2 = glorified m235i with a wider body, diff and a tune.
M2 Comp = full blown M car (just a shite sounding one).
M2 CS = a collectors car/investment. For me the best looking BMW ever made.
OG M2 = M4 suspension + brakes, N55B engine has S55 components, upgraded oiling, not just a 'tune'
you should do more homework before making absurd remarks!
Yeah go back to your fords because you have no idea what you’re talking about
Nice comparison. M2c and CS both sound like garbage
Cheers for the view chap.
Would say that - I’m super pleased with my comp and know the CS is immensely capable… but bang for buck - the OG takes it as a bargain
Best looking BMW ever made? Seriously? All 2-series cars have the proportions of a bullfrog. The cars aren't sleek looking....not low, not wide like a proper sports car. It's similar to an Audi A3 when you park it next to an A5 or A7 and by comparison it looks like an economy car.
Assuming let you have an alter stove opinion but have decided not to state it???
@@CarMadDad Alter stove opinion?
@@Japplesnap ???
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Nice Cars, im looking between M2 Comp vs new S650 mustang GT here in Australia and its a damn hard choice... M2comps selling at around $13k less than lowest spec mustang we can get so M2 is winning.
Also, Jesus is king. Song used in the intro is a bit naf, bro is assuming Christianity is false because some priest has an opinion about something? Such unwise and facile reasoning. 'god is love', which God? How do you know. Imagine making a song, pointing to whats not true then saying some vague garbage about what you want reality to be.
Cheers for the view - can’t admit to noticing the words in the song - just liked the beat.
@@CarMadDad no worries bro. May God bless you, great taste in cars!
Amen 🙏🏻