Nice comparison. It would be better to have the green set at your carry distance (not total) and see if the shots with the club in question can actually hold a green when landing on it. 12-15 yards of roll for a 7-iron is not necessarily a good thing.
I have the old t200 in this video. I carry 174 with similar spin and ball speed, 116-118mph, about 28-30 height, I don't get anywhere near 15yrd roll out, it's closer to 3-5 yrds
The last stat on your chart is the most telling. Distance from pin. You were 12 feet closer with old version. Your shots also looked straighter with the old model. I know it was only a few shots so it’s not a fair comparison completely as you really need a bunch more but this does show that if you have the old model, absolutely no need to buy the new ones. I play the t100s and needed a gap wedge. Thankfully my club pro was able to get me one since they no longer make it as the 150 replaced it. I saw the 150 and it looked like a slightly fatter top line to me but not positive as I wasn’t looking side by side. Titleist makes some incredible clubs and glad I switched to them this year. I have two Vokeys on order as well as my old wedges are just about done. Thanks for the video. These comparisons are always fun.
Can’t go wrong with either. I was surprised the peak height & spin was better with the stronger lofted new ones. But yes, in this test at least, dispersion a bit tighter with old.
@@LetsPlayThru It's only couple of shots and also different shaft could change things but more ball speed, distance, speed, steeper landing angle and better feel to me is clearly tipping the scale towards the new version. They have done a really good job with these.
I switched from the old T100S to the new T200 and couldn't be happier. Great feel, control, distance and forgiveness. I even got the T200 Utility 3-Iron which is a nice option to replace hybrids. Really loving these new irons! The 100S were just too unforgiving for me (despite having an amazing forged feel)
Happy to read this. I have been playing the T100S for over a year 5-G, then I have the 4i Utility T200. I have had so much trouble with the 5 and 6 in my T100S. Has gotten so frustrating to the point that I've considered playing a hybrid instead of the 5. Finally pulled the trigger on T200 in my shaft fitting last night in a 5-6. I love the T100S 7-G, amazing club, my dispersion has gotten tighter and my spin has gone down while distances go up. Super excited for my combo set.
Im playing off 2 atm, im interested in a set of these, I'm currently using Cobra cb 5 to pw, I'm going to get t200 in 6 to gw, as they should cover the same yardages but be more forgiving in speed retention with off centre strikes... and i won't have to change my 52, 56, 60.
I love my t200s I was using 620mb but in the winter struggled, summer they were great. The only thing I don’t like is I find them hard to shot shape. They’re straight as an arrow, not a bad thing but it is if you need to navigate obstacles. I’ve been much more consistent with them.
I would love to see a comparison of a iron from ten years ago with the same loft. Like an old 6 iron compared to a new 7. Have the distance really changed? Or just the loft?
I ordered my set 3 weeks ago and should get them tomorrow. I went T150 P-6 and T200 5-4 with AMT Tour White shafts. Super stoked to try them out on the course.
Same. I did px5.5 on t150 and px6.0 on the t200 since they are a noticeably lighter head and the 5.5 felt like a noticeable difference that I didn’t like. Now they feel like the same set. Perfect.
Great video Gabe! I switched from my Pxg gen 4 0311p to a combo 350 5-6, t200 7-Pw and love the feel, control, accuracy, distance and forgiveness. I was no a fan of the last iteration and didn’t hit as well. You seem to be swinging the club much faster this season than in past and curious if you have been working on anything in particular to gain that added yardage with your irons?
Love the combo set. Yes indeed. Gained over 5 mph swing speed. Not sure if you caught this one, but I discussed some changes I made: ua-cam.com/video/BLBSBcjp2-A/v-deo.html
Youre in Tampa? Video idea you take me to PGA store since I'm in the market for new clubs (I have a budget for any set i want) Currently playing 2009 Mizuno ZOID Comp EZ's, and a kirkland signature Driver and since improving a lot i want to invest in a nice set for the first time. You have me try every recommendation than i buy whatever i do best with and go hit a quick 9! lol
I’ll be interested to see how the new mizuno 245 stack up to these when they are released. I did purchase the new U505 4 iron to replace my hybrid and it feels great and is so easy to hit
Do you guys check the loft and lie before the test to be sure it’s playing what it says? 1/2 degree is not much especially with an adjustable loft iron.
Gabe, l came back into golf 21 months ago after 22 years away from it. I started with the Titleist T300 irons. Wonderful clubs just to see if l could play at a low level again. I got down to 5 within five months of playing again. They were great clubs. As last summer went on l noticed l wasn't getting great spin into greens from second shots and felt l needed a more players type of iron. I went for the P790s although l was looking at the T200s from Titleist. The new T200 look better than the previous generation model. Titleist very seldom out a foot wrong when it comes to clubs. Great video again, Gabe 👍.
I'm not a big fan of the new loft jacked irons out there. I miss my old Mizuno's that had a 34 degree 7 iron. I could hit 165 yds, and hold the green. My last set of PXG's had a 28 degree 7 iron, and yes, it was a couple yds longer, but always found myself running off the back of the green with the lower spin.
It's not just about loft. This video was a perfect example. The new T200 has less loft but launched higher and spun more. Seems like you just bought poorly fit irons for your swing.
What is really interesting that while new T-series are strong in lofts they still launch high and produce a lot of spin. I just got fitted for T150 and didn't lose any spin and launched high compared to my previous blades.
Some people will probably conclude that there isn't enough of a difference between the two models, but (small sample size alert) increased ball speed, launch, spin, height, and carry are all in favor of the new model. Add in the fact that the narrower sole is probably going to get through the grass better than the old one. I could see getting the 150's in the short irons and the 200's in the mid irons.
I did exactly that. Did something a little unique. Went with the 2021 3 iron utility T200 (bent 2° weak) and 2021 T200 5 iron into a T150 set. Couldn’t be happier. In my fitting the new and the old were so similar I ended up going 150 4-P then buying the irons I mentioned earlier on my own and building them up. Have never been so happy with a set, and the switch was effortless.
I’ve learned over the years that it’s a lot of hype. I went from Taylormade R7CGB max irons that weren’t fitted to me to fitted stealth irons and they’re no longer, not any more forgiving nor more accurate. Should’ve spent the $1400+ on other stuff. Just practice to be more consistent and accurate and your scores will improve
Hey Gabe, It's Ed from CCC. Another great video! The wife has the previous T-200 and they're gorgeous clubs. I've had to shut it down for a while because of this elbow. I have elbow surgery on Oct 6th. So I won't be able to golf until at least beginning of Nov :( Getting stir crazy!
I would be cautious when purchasing the T200 irons as I have owned them from new since August 2023 and the plastic backing (back of the club head) has come off on the 7 iron. Seems to be a problem Titleist are having with them. Also the cheap plastic that they have glued to the back fades dramatically and quickly making them look really worn and cheap within a few months. I'm in the process of returning mine which is unfortunate as they do perform very well.
So you have said on every video reviewing these clubs. My mate has had these since release no issues at all and back plate has no marks on them at all. They still look brand new. I’ve had mine for 6 months and still look brand new. Maybe your just a hacker and ant look after anything
I agree. That’s the one issue I don’t like. The plate hasn’t come off but it’s deffo faded and scratched from being in the bag. Bought them January this year.
Why are you showing / talking about roll out, total distance, especially with a 7 iron. How is that even remotely relevant. Land angle maybe helpful, launch angle, so many other metrics that could be useful. But total distance on a 7 iron, as estimated by a simulator ? What a waste of time.
Nice comparison. It would be better to have the green set at your carry distance (not total) and see if the shots with the club in question can actually hold a green when landing on it. 12-15 yards of roll for a 7-iron is not necessarily a good thing.
I have the old t200 in this video. I carry 174 with similar spin and ball speed, 116-118mph, about 28-30 height, I don't get anywhere near 15yrd roll out, it's closer to 3-5 yrds
Knowing the shaft in the club would be a great help !
The last stat on your chart is the most telling. Distance from pin. You were 12 feet closer with old version. Your shots also looked straighter with the old model. I know it was only a few shots so it’s not a fair comparison completely as you really need a bunch more but this does show that if you have the old model, absolutely no need to buy the new ones.
I play the t100s and needed a gap wedge. Thankfully my club pro was able to get me one since they no longer make it as the 150 replaced it. I saw the 150 and it looked like a slightly fatter top line to me but not positive as I wasn’t looking side by side.
Titleist makes some incredible clubs and glad I switched to them this year. I have two Vokeys on order as well as my old wedges are just about done.
Thanks for the video. These comparisons are always fun.
Can’t go wrong with either. I was surprised the peak height & spin was better with the stronger lofted new ones. But yes, in this test at least, dispersion a bit tighter with old.
@@LetsPlayThru It's only couple of shots and also different shaft could change things but more ball speed, distance, speed, steeper landing angle and better feel to me is clearly tipping the scale towards the new version. They have done a really good job with these.
I switched from the old T100S to the new T200 and couldn't be happier. Great feel, control, distance and forgiveness. I even got the T200 Utility 3-Iron which is a nice option to replace hybrids. Really loving these new irons! The 100S were just too unforgiving for me (despite having an amazing forged feel)
I really liked the 100s. But I think that’s a great move to the T200 for a bit more forgiveness
What’s the utility iron?
Happy to read this. I have been playing the T100S for over a year 5-G, then I have the 4i Utility T200. I have had so much trouble with the 5 and 6 in my T100S. Has gotten so frustrating to the point that I've considered playing a hybrid instead of the 5. Finally pulled the trigger on T200 in my shaft fitting last night in a 5-6. I love the T100S 7-G, amazing club, my dispersion has gotten tighter and my spin has gone down while distances go up. Super excited for my combo set.
Im playing off 2 atm, im interested in a set of these, I'm currently using Cobra cb 5 to pw, I'm going to get t200 in 6 to gw, as they should cover the same yardages but be more forgiving in speed retention with off centre strikes... and i won't have to change my 52, 56, 60.
I love my t200s I was using 620mb but in the winter struggled, summer they were great. The only thing I don’t like is I find them hard to shot shape. They’re straight as an arrow, not a bad thing but it is if you need to navigate obstacles. I’ve been much more consistent with them.
I would love to see a comparison of a iron from ten years ago with the same loft. Like an old 6 iron compared to a new 7. Have the distance really changed? Or just the loft?
I ordered my set 3 weeks ago and should get them tomorrow. I went T150 P-6 and T200 5-4 with AMT Tour White shafts. Super stoked to try them out on the course.
That sounds like a serious set!! Love the combo
Same. I did px5.5 on t150 and px6.0 on the t200 since they are a noticeably lighter head and the 5.5 felt like a noticeable difference that I didn’t like. Now they feel like the same set. Perfect.
Mere Mortals carrying a 7-iron 170+ yards is quite impressive! Can the slight distance edge of the new T200 be attributed to the .5 stronger loft?
I think so, Mark. But what’s interesting is that peak height, decent angle and spin all better with the new one which has less loft. Pretty cool!
The lofts are really strong on T200's. 30,5 degree is stronger than 620CB 6 iron.
Great video Gabe! I switched from my Pxg gen 4 0311p to a combo 350 5-6, t200 7-Pw and love the feel, control, accuracy, distance and forgiveness. I was no a fan of the last iteration and didn’t hit as well. You seem to be swinging the club much faster this season than in past and curious if you have been working on anything in particular to gain that added yardage with your irons?
Love the combo set. Yes indeed. Gained over 5 mph swing speed. Not sure if you caught this one, but I discussed some changes I made:
ua-cam.com/video/BLBSBcjp2-A/v-deo.html
Those 2021 t200's have some of the nicest backs to them I've seen on any iron IMO
Youre in Tampa? Video idea you take me to PGA store since I'm in the market for new clubs (I have a budget for any set i want) Currently playing 2009 Mizuno ZOID Comp EZ's, and a kirkland signature Driver and since improving a lot i want to invest in a nice set for the first time. You have me try every recommendation than i buy whatever i do best with and go hit a quick 9! lol
I’ll be interested to see how the new mizuno 245 stack up to these when they are released. I did purchase the new U505 4 iron to replace my hybrid and it feels great and is so easy to hit
Question....Do you really want 15 yards of roll out especially with a 7 iron?That spin is kinda low for a 7 iron.
Do you guys check the loft and lie before the test to be sure it’s playing what it says? 1/2 degree is not much especially with an adjustable loft iron.
Gabe. Spot on review from my personal experience as well. 👍
They’ve been talking about the vokey design on the bounce. Same talking points year over year
Gabe, l came back into golf 21 months ago after 22 years away from it. I started with the Titleist T300 irons. Wonderful clubs just to see if l could play at a low level again. I got down to 5 within five months of playing again. They were great clubs. As last summer went on l noticed l wasn't getting great spin into greens from second shots and felt l needed a more players type of iron. I went for the P790s although l was looking at the T200s from Titleist. The new T200 look better than the previous generation model. Titleist very seldom out a foot wrong when it comes to clubs. Great video again, Gabe 👍.
You can’t go wrong with those P790s either. Glad you are getting some good results, and congrats on getting that handicap back down!
I'm not a big fan of the new loft jacked irons out there. I miss my old Mizuno's that had a 34 degree 7 iron. I could hit 165 yds, and hold the green. My last set of PXG's had a 28 degree 7 iron, and yes, it was a couple yds longer, but always found myself running off the back of the green with the lower spin.
Mizuno and PXG both make traditional loft options.
It's not just about loft. This video was a perfect example. The new T200 has less loft but launched higher and spun more. Seems like you just bought poorly fit irons for your swing.
What is really interesting that while new T-series are strong in lofts they still launch high and produce a lot of spin. I just got fitted for T150 and didn't lose any spin and launched high compared to my previous blades.
Bro, the T100 this year has a 34 degree 7 iron
@@Baf630x😂😂😂
Some people will probably conclude that there isn't enough of a difference between the two models, but (small sample size alert) increased ball speed, launch, spin, height, and carry are all in favor of the new model. Add in the fact that the narrower sole is probably going to get through the grass better than the old one. I could see getting the 150's in the short irons and the 200's in the mid irons.
Yes I think it was significant enough, especially when taking feel into account, to say there’s a noticeable enough performance bump.
I did exactly that. Did something a little unique. Went with the 2021 3 iron utility T200 (bent 2° weak) and 2021 T200 5 iron into a T150 set. Couldn’t be happier. In my fitting the new and the old were so similar I ended up going 150 4-P then buying the irons I mentioned earlier on my own and building them up. Have never been so happy with a set, and the switch was effortless.
Have you ever tried a longer shaft for a longer softer Shaft lighter swing wait you have to get the ball up a little higher and stop a little quicker
I’ve learned over the years that it’s a lot of hype. I went from Taylormade R7CGB max irons that weren’t fitted to me to fitted stealth irons and they’re no longer, not any more forgiving nor more accurate. Should’ve spent the $1400+ on other stuff. Just practice to be more consistent and accurate and your scores will improve
Hey Gabe, It's Ed from CCC. Another great video! The wife has the previous T-200 and they're gorgeous clubs. I've had to shut it down for a while because of this elbow. I have elbow surgery on Oct 6th. So I won't be able to golf until at least beginning of Nov :( Getting stir crazy!
Hi Ed, I hope the surgery goes smoothly 🙏 and you can get out there better feeling better than ever real soon.
New t200 best club I ever used
I would be cautious when purchasing the T200 irons as I have owned them from new since August 2023 and the plastic backing (back of the club head) has come off on the 7 iron. Seems to be a problem Titleist are having with them. Also the cheap plastic that they have glued to the back fades dramatically and quickly making them look really worn and cheap within a few months. I'm in the process of returning mine which is unfortunate as they do perform very well.
So you have said on every video reviewing these clubs. My mate has had these since release no issues at all and back plate has no marks on them at all. They still look brand new. I’ve had mine for 6 months and still look brand new. Maybe your just a hacker and ant look after anything
@@georgeramsey6542 we get it George. You are a Titleist fan boy. Would have been much easier to just say that.
@@georgeramsey6542 Georgie boy. Why not just say you are a Titleist fan boy and then people will know not to trust your biased ramblings 👌
I agree. That’s the one issue I don’t like. The plate hasn’t come off but it’s deffo faded and scratched from being in the bag. Bought them January this year.
Don’t expect that when spending £1200 on some irons
The plastic badge at the back of the club face falls off after a few months. A real shame as the performance of these clubs is very good ☹️
Why is the roll out 15 yards, that's not good
15 yards of roll is too much don't you think?
It definitely is, but I don’t trust those roll numbers too much
I agree that 15 yards with 7i is a lot, but it is strong lofted. Backspin is also low, I like to be around 6400 with 7i.
OK I'll bite. What is the significance of the 1895 hat?
Country Club of Rochester. It’s the year they were founded. I just liked the design when I was in the pro shop. 😃
Very subtle differences, major price increases. 🤷🏻♂️
Sounds like he didn’t have permission to film😀
Too much roll = no control
Srixon irons are better
Hype.
Why are you showing / talking about roll out, total distance, especially with a 7 iron. How is that even remotely relevant. Land angle maybe helpful, launch angle, so many other metrics that could be useful. But total distance on a 7 iron, as estimated by a simulator ? What a waste of time.
lol had you watched the video you would have seen that all that was in the video 🤡