Torn between the FX30 and the R6 II

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  • @tbgtom
    @tbgtom 2 роки тому +4

    Your conclusion is spot on... the better camera is what's best for your need at that moment.

    • @OrdinaryFilmmaker
      @OrdinaryFilmmaker  2 роки тому

      Yep... I hate stupid point scoring videos, they just don't make any sense. I thought the best way to critique one was to make one and then say, this is silly...focus on outcomes...

  • @michaelschneider9710
    @michaelschneider9710 2 роки тому +7

    I am a lens guy, I have quite a bit of ef glass that I use across systems, but I bought my R5 and added rf glass, That keeps me on my current systems for cameras to consider. I love and will keep my Panasonic S1 and S1R (I am 6'5" and have large hands, nothing has fit my hand like these cameras since the Contax RTSIII). I also shoot Micro Four Thirds for wildlife and extended hiking. With the glass in those systems, I pretty much ignore some great camera systems. Nikon, Sony, and Fuji are out of scope. My best shooting/ Favorite system for wide-normal- short tele stills is my S1R and Zeiss Otis Glass. (Color science fits my hand/style, built like a tank for landscape) The Cannon big white is my favorite with long glass. Micro-Four thirds is great for video and portable wildlife.

    • @OrdinaryFilmmaker
      @OrdinaryFilmmaker  2 роки тому +2

      I envy your inventory of cameras. Someday I will add more kit. Talking about it is one ting, but being able to use and speak from experience is so much better.

    • @drbeardo6960
      @drbeardo6960 2 роки тому +2

      I'm also a lens guy
      Fan of primes most of times
      Ef lenses are of my choice coz they can be adapted or speedboosted on almost every good system available now
      Canon EF glasses can be speedboosted on my M50
      Speedbooster also available for fx30

  • @ebinrock
    @ebinrock 2 роки тому +5

    One more point for the Canon EOS R6 MkII: it has a viewfinder; the Sony FX30 doesn't. In a lot of situations, such as bright sunlight, you need a viewfinder. Especially since most camera companies still aren't putting in super-bright LED screens (2000+ nits minimum, I would say). But then you'd have an extra challenge to prevent overheating.

  • @HollywoodSmokeRogan
    @HollywoodSmokeRogan 2 роки тому +6

    Great video. Very timely. Last year I switched from the Canon EOS R to the Sony A7C because RF glass was too expensive and I had third party options. Even though I get results from the Sony I find the menu system complicated and I miss the simplicity of Canon. One day I hope to return to Canon but I think I’ll pick up the FX30 to pair with my A7C!

    • @OrdinaryFilmmaker
      @OrdinaryFilmmaker  2 роки тому +2

      It's a very good video camera for sure. They R7c if it happens might be similar.

  • @vidthreenorth4007
    @vidthreenorth4007 2 роки тому +5

    Actually, when I bought my Sony a6400, one of the first things I bought was an adapter to use Canon EF lenses on the a6400, and it works well enough for the Canon EF and EFS mount lenses I have.

    • @OrdinaryFilmmaker
      @OrdinaryFilmmaker  2 роки тому +1

      Do you ever have any issues with AF reliability?

    • @vidthreenorth4007
      @vidthreenorth4007 2 роки тому

      @@OrdinaryFilmmaker No, I would not say that I ran into particular problems with that adapter or others I have used, Some lenses do focus slower than others, but that is true even with some native glass. And I also have some actual manual lenses, and of course focusing those is "up to me".
      Hah! I decided to try it again to make sure and I ran into a new problem: It does not work for movies. I only tried it with stills before. Ok, it's not perfect, but it was good enough for when I really needed it. The adapter was the Sigma MC-11. Actually, for video work, I might use it manually anyway.

  • @sidvicious3129
    @sidvicious3129 2 роки тому +2

    Excellent Video, Simon with getting rid of the BS, and example, making this about Use Case and not Spec Case!!!

    • @OrdinaryFilmmaker
      @OrdinaryFilmmaker  2 роки тому

      Absolutely. I started high level on a scoring system to pull people in and then say, it doesn't matter... focus on the right things.

  • @JohnDrummondPhoto
    @JohnDrummondPhoto 2 роки тому +4

    Date the body, marry the lenses. If you already have an inventory of glass in one system and you're not made of money, get the body in that system that meets your needs. If you're that person who can afford anything, or you have a UA-cam Santa like Kasey, get everything. 😉 The tough choice is if you're starting from scratch. That's where a plus/minus comparison might actually be useful.

  • @johndc7446
    @johndc7446 2 роки тому +4

    Its very complicated because it boils down to your preference and priority. FX30 could be the safest choice. R6 II might still have those questionable dynamic range & rolling shutter issues. Fuji XH2S could be an alteranative choice considering how good the video features are. But you still have to consider that fuji tends to have fine, sharp, gritty looking noise which can be unideal to some if you prefer softer blocky noise like what most other camera brands have. I myself prefer the softer blocky noise from canons and sony. The noise that the fuji cameras produce looks like vintage and many people may like it.

  • @petergriffiths3920
    @petergriffiths3920 2 роки тому +1

    Usefukl video, Thanks. I am looki g at both the R6 MKII and and the FX30. What will I use it for? Live streaming, filming podcast interviews and classroom based training. Can you suggest which one or anothoer option, please?

  • @cjm8160
    @cjm8160 2 роки тому +3

    Doesn’t the R6 MK II output raw 6k 60 fps RAW ProRes to an external monitor?

    • @OrdinaryFilmmaker
      @OrdinaryFilmmaker  2 роки тому +1

      Yes it does. While I called out the output of the FX30 being 16 bit raw, I gave the win to the Sony as it could do more internally. External is great in studio, but run and gun with an external monitor is cumbersome. The R6 II is a very solid camera with great video capabilities, but the architect is a limitation for doing longer work, doing interviews. The video highlights the need for an APS-C cinema camera from Canon, which is what the R7c is supposed to be.

  • @ytr8989
    @ytr8989 2 роки тому +3

    The Canon R50 looks like an M5 or M6 replacement. The R6 II should be able to satisfy most people. The FX30 seems to be a good contender as well.

    • @OrdinaryFilmmaker
      @OrdinaryFilmmaker  2 роки тому

      Fair enough Alex. But he key point I was making is that choosing the right camera is base on each users capability needs and that scoring cameras side by side is useless ;)

  • @R3user-p5q
    @R3user-p5q 2 роки тому +1

    I use a Sony A74 for all my video work. The past week, it overheated twice. This has never occurred before in almost one year of ownership. I got it Dec. 23, 2021. That's recording in 4K, 4.2.2 10 bit. So why am I now experiencing overheating?

    • @OrdinaryFilmmaker
      @OrdinaryFilmmaker  2 роки тому +1

      I have a friend with the A1 and he had the same thing. It was fine until just before the warranty ran out then overheated like crazy in all modes. Ended up replacing the board. Sounds like a technical issue. I suggest reaching out to Sony. Sony might also say to you that the A74 is meant as a stills camera, for video, you should get a video camera. They told that to my friend too. He now has the FX30 and loves it.

    • @R3user-p5q
      @R3user-p5q 2 роки тому

      @@OrdinaryFilmmaker Yeah, mine is still under warranty and I'm going to phone B&H in NYC where I bought it to see if anything can be done. I recorded an hour and 20 minute church service this morning in 4K 4.2.0, 8 bit and had no issues. Why I was able to record in 4.2.2. 10 bit for so long before any issues, well I have no idea.

  • @wildlifehouse
    @wildlifehouse 2 роки тому +1

    Great video! Which do you think is best for shooting wildlife and bird videos with a telephoto lens? Thanks!

    • @OrdinaryFilmmaker
      @OrdinaryFilmmaker  2 роки тому

      I think the lens matters most. For bodies, A simple R7 or R10 would work, though the R5 would too giving you more options for punching in later. The old EF 100-400 still offers great image at a huge discount over the 100-500.

    • @wildlifehouse
      @wildlifehouse 2 роки тому

      @@OrdinaryFilmmaker thank you! Do you think the FX30 could be used for shooting wildlife and bird videos with a telephoto? Thanks again!

    • @NARRASSAFilmes
      @NARRASSAFilmes Рік тому +1

      Fx30 with 70-350mm for sure.

  • @royphotoworks
    @royphotoworks 9 місяців тому +1

    I need a camera for cinematography in sony model, I’m confused between fx30 & fx3 but fx3 price to much from fx30 plz Help me to figure out the perfect model

  • @johnclay7644
    @johnclay7644 2 роки тому +2

    informative 11mins would love to use both, reading up on the fx30, both seem very in demand.

    • @OrdinaryFilmmaker
      @OrdinaryFilmmaker  2 роки тому

      I'd love to play around with it and use it in the studio John. Thanks for watching!

  • @HaleyBell-w9u
    @HaleyBell-w9u Місяць тому

    I’m a social media manager/content creator looking to buy a video camera for work and also for personal travel video. I already have a Canon 5d Mark IV with some glass, but I’m willing to get a Sony if it’s worth it. On another note, I’ve been really wanting a mirror less camera and I already have some Canon lenses (which is why I’m interested in the Mark r6 II). But ultimately, I want the best video. Do you think the Sony fx30 is worth it?

  • @PlunderRoad
    @PlunderRoad 10 місяців тому +1

    Do the EF lenses work "flawlessly" with video autofocus when adapted to RF mount? Thanks!

    • @OrdinaryFilmmaker
      @OrdinaryFilmmaker  10 місяців тому +1

      I used the EF 50mm f1.2 for a year on this channel without issue. I should have kept it ;) I can't speak for every lens, but I have not heard of any issues. I also used the EF 18-135 USM.

  • @tintin69rr
    @tintin69rr Рік тому +1

    Great vid Cool shirt my fave local band 🤘🤘🤘

  • @snowwalker9999
    @snowwalker9999 2 роки тому +1

    The problem with the current Camera market is that the hybrid cameras with the best video features have usually smaller sensors. I wonder how much more the price of a full sensor is. When a FF has half of those features they become significantly more expensive.

    • @OrdinaryFilmmaker
      @OrdinaryFilmmaker  2 роки тому +3

      But is this a problem? Super 35 produces some great results. Full frame isn't a solution for filmmakers, its an option to deliver a look and feel. It's about telling stories and picking the right gear for the right conversation. I enjoyed working with APS-C, but sadly camera companies but a few treat it as second rate forcing you into full frame to get more advanced features.

    • @snowwalker9999
      @snowwalker9999 2 роки тому +1

      @@OrdinaryFilmmaker I totally agree with you. I am talking about purely hybrid shooters who want to enjoy the benefits of a full frame for still. APSC however have their advantage in stills too like better reach with FF lenses, better IBIS, smaller form factor and the price.

    • @OrdinaryFilmmaker
      @OrdinaryFilmmaker  2 роки тому +1

      I love how the 70D got so much more reach with the lenses I had. Always felt like I was getting more value ;)

    • @snowwalker9999
      @snowwalker9999 2 роки тому +1

      @@OrdinaryFilmmaker That is why I am torn whether I should actually upgrade to one of the newly released FF cameras or just wait and see what the future hybrid cameras with smaller sensors might offer next year. Like a Sony a6700 or another Canon or O-M1 mark ii

    • @OrdinaryFilmmaker
      @OrdinaryFilmmaker  2 роки тому +1

      If your current camera is delivering the capabilities you need, stay put, wait until you see a new camera that really captures your attention, that delivers on the capabilities you need. 2023 should offer a lot of new kit.

  • @nigelngai3288
    @nigelngai3288 2 роки тому +2

    4:18 UFO auto detection 🤣

    • @OrdinaryFilmmaker
      @OrdinaryFilmmaker  2 роки тому +1

      I know right? And not just the big ones, but small ones too!

    • @nigelngai3288
      @nigelngai3288 2 роки тому +1

      @@OrdinaryFilmmaker Harvard’s Galileo Project would certainly benefit from it!

    • @OrdinaryFilmmaker
      @OrdinaryFilmmaker  2 роки тому +2

      I think it could be adapted to help focus in on the stars and planets as well - same looking object. AF isn't reliable for those things. I always pull manual focus for the stars and planets, even the moon.

  • @NeroMMA
    @NeroMMA Рік тому

    So a big thing for me is. In Sweden, they are basically priced the same. With the price being the same, perhaps the canon r6 would give me more for my $?

  • @prateekitis
    @prateekitis 2 роки тому +1

    Hii, I am a student filmmaker for the moment and will be graduating soon. I have a canon eos T5i or 700D and want to upgrade to a good full-frame camera, but I am getting very confused. My projects are generally fashion photoshoots, portraits, and sometimes short films and product advertisements. It would be great if you could help me choose a good camera to buy. Thanks. By the way, love your content, just got to know about your channel and am super lucky to find it.

    • @OrdinaryFilmmaker
      @OrdinaryFilmmaker  2 роки тому +1

      For fashion photoshoots the R6 is excellent. Great camera. As far as short films, if you don't need to shoot videos longer than 40 minutes at a time, the R6 mark II should work well enough allowing you to have a single camera for everything. It sounds like most of your work is stills and fashion and you can't argue against the R6 mark II for that. Thanks for watching!!

  • @danielshepherd7306
    @danielshepherd7306 2 роки тому +1

    Faster sensor read-out speed, to reduce rolling shutter: Canon for the point, I believe. And the R5, even with more pixels, is even faster than both. Or, one could get the Fuji XH2S, which far out performs with the faster sensor readout, by all accounts.

    • @OrdinaryFilmmaker
      @OrdinaryFilmmaker  2 роки тому +1

      It's all about the outcomes we need. For some, the OM1 would be better, very compact, but a solid camera.

    • @danielshepherd7306
      @danielshepherd7306 2 роки тому

      Yes. Since my S1H has a high rolling shutter from slow sensor read-out (especially compared to the R5), I'm conscious of it, and often notice it as a missing capability from my kit. If I were to supliment my kit, it would be nice to get something that fills the gaps of AF and rolling shutter.

  • @TomislavMoze
    @TomislavMoze 2 роки тому +2

    I think better comparison would be fx30 vs Canon R7

    • @OrdinaryFilmmaker
      @OrdinaryFilmmaker  2 роки тому

      Agreed, but the point wasn't the two cameras I was comparing ;)

  • @JaredRibic
    @JaredRibic 2 роки тому +1

    I wish Canon offered C-Log in the EOS M. That would be a great compact APS-C camera for video.
    But I also realize it looks like the EOS M seems to be end-of-life at this point.

    • @OrdinaryFilmmaker
      @OrdinaryFilmmaker  2 роки тому +1

      I'm just curious what CL4 will offer. CL is a lot of effort to edit over 8 bit...

    • @JaredRibic
      @JaredRibic 2 роки тому +1

      @@OrdinaryFilmmaker - I'm just now learning how to shoot in Log.
      I'm a photographer who started shooting wedding video a couple of years ago. I was working for a studio that required us to shoot in C-log, so I did, files were handed to studio and they edited.
      It wasn't until September of this year that I had to edit my own video, and not until a couple of weeks ago that I began to understand the "base ISO". I was shooting like a photographer, thinking that a lower ISO would be best.
      I have another wedding coming up in December and I'll shoot everything in C-Log3 again, but this time at ISO 800 (and ISO 1600 if needed). I can't wait to see how much better things turn out. Using the R3 and R5 bodies, and plenty of variable ND filters.

    • @OrdinaryFilmmaker
      @OrdinaryFilmmaker  2 роки тому +1

      Always leave the ISO level at auto when shooting log. The camera will automatically keep you at the base ISO ;)

    • @JaredRibic
      @JaredRibic 2 роки тому

      @@OrdinaryFilmmaker - Good to know. Thanks!

  • @mambiproductions8960
    @mambiproductions8960 Рік тому

    Fx3 0r fx30?

  • @Richard_Leon
    @Richard_Leon Рік тому +1

    So if I’m 100% a video guy. The fx30 would be the better choice? I’m so torn. FYI I don’t mess with photos much and currently have a m50 😂

    • @OrdinaryFilmmaker
      @OrdinaryFilmmaker  Рік тому

      Looking at the Sony FX line is worth while as is looking at the Oslo pocket 3. If these don't convince you they are worthy, they will convince you the R6 II is a better choice.

    • @daddyrooster88sportsmedia
      @daddyrooster88sportsmedia 2 місяці тому

      Bro I am exactly in the same boat I shoot highschool football with the M50 with a 70-200 but tired of the flimsy microHDMI connection. I also want to shoot pregame in 4k120 so im looking to switch to Sony. I love the look of the Canon colors science though 😢

    • @Richard_Leon
      @Richard_Leon 2 місяці тому

      @ I’m sure there is a solid canon choice for you. I considered the r8 or r6 ii

  • @chiefjoboo
    @chiefjoboo 2 роки тому +1

    I was about to buy FX30 but then had a wise thought to wait a couple months to see what the competition has to show. The rumored Canon R7c and the Panasonic S5H, if real, have my mind worrying about buying the fx30 and then regretting it - so I'll wait and then probably buy the FX30 early next year.

    • @harry54ck
      @harry54ck 11 місяців тому +1

      So the year passed, tell please, which decisions you've made?

    • @chiefjoboo
      @chiefjoboo 11 місяців тому +1

      @@harry54ck i got an s5ii, the kit 20-60, the 14-28 and sigma 16mm 1.4.

    • @harry54ck
      @harry54ck 11 місяців тому +1

      @@chiefjoboo amazing choice!

  • @seragram
    @seragram Рік тому

    I am not torn. Full frame more cinematic, 6K with Ninja V less noise in shadows. R6 Mark II my choice.

  • @dubbleA100
    @dubbleA100 2 роки тому +1

    I'm not trying to roast you, obviously you're just reporting what people are talking about, but I think this is a dumb comparison. Mini Cine cameras shouldn't be compared to hybrid cameras.
    This is like comparing a Ford Mustang to Chevy Silverado.
    🤷🏿‍♂️

    • @OrdinaryFilmmaker
      @OrdinaryFilmmaker  2 роки тому +1

      Watch to the end. I state how stupid the compare is and what we should do ;) Watch it all...

    • @dubbleA100
      @dubbleA100 2 роки тому

      @@OrdinaryFilmmaker I did. It was a comment more for the people not you LoL

  • @nodavood
    @nodavood 2 роки тому +1

    I like shooting more videos. I just don't have the storage capacity for it. I am team hybrid camera not Cine.

    • @OrdinaryFilmmaker
      @OrdinaryFilmmaker  2 роки тому +1

      Life was fine until 4K, now I don't have enough storage either! We need a break through in storage!

  • @JustinCaseResearch
    @JustinCaseResearch 2 роки тому

    i like sony's technology...But i just cant get over their color science....I just doesnt meet my liking for skin tones. I wish the gh6 was reliable in autofocus and low light, so for me
    the win on canon for out of the box excellent color without grading.

    • @jdc2126
      @jdc2126 Рік тому +1

      I’ve work with both. It really depends Sony has improve with their color science especially with this camera. I mean if you’re a lazy editor then there is no point in getting into filming. But do know that every filmmaker grades their footage so color science is irrelevant nowadays. Also another thing is the fx30 is the smaller brother of the fx3 which has been approved with Netflix, only difference is the sensor size.

  • @wiseguyknowsall
    @wiseguyknowsall 2 роки тому +1

    I choose Canon for the colour.

    • @OrdinaryFilmmaker
      @OrdinaryFilmmaker  2 роки тому +1

      I'm not so sure that matters as much. Exposure can also have a big impact on colours and tone... I've seen footage on Sony cameras that looks great too.

  • @HeadlessChickenTO
    @HeadlessChickenTO 2 роки тому +1

    UFO AF...pppfftt, bring out dust particle auto focus. Then I'll be impressed 🤣
    Canon of course gets my point but only because I've been with that ecosystem for so long.

  • @neogod29
    @neogod29 2 роки тому

    This is a bad comparison, because the Sony wins on price and cost of ownership alone. APS-C lenses are MUCH cheaper than their FF counterparts. There isn't a comparison to the FX30 at all like you stated. These are 2 different markets. Against the Sony A7iv, the Canon R6ii appears to be better on paper. That's its direct competitor.

  • @Orangesunset14
    @Orangesunset14 Рік тому

    you are just reading the spec sheet and giving points but in the realistic world it doesn't work like that

  • @theoell2049
    @theoell2049 Рік тому

    Fx30 has no viewfinder if you want to use it for photography

  • @tietata9245
    @tietata9245 Рік тому

    Are you for real?... you compare MEGAPIXELS when it comes to video capabilities and give ONE point to fx30 over r6 mark ii for that? I can't consider this comparison a fair one, sorry

  • @NARRASSAFilmes
    @NARRASSAFilmes Рік тому +2

    F30 won easy.

  • @seragram
    @seragram 2 роки тому +1

    Full frame, full frame.

    • @OrdinaryFilmmaker
      @OrdinaryFilmmaker  2 роки тому

      Why, why, why?

    • @seragram
      @seragram 2 роки тому

      @@OrdinaryFilmmaker More Cinematic, More Cinematic. :)

    • @gavthane
      @gavthane 2 роки тому +1

      @@seragram if you can’t achieve cinematic footage with an apsc sized sensor, you need some tuition in filmmaking.

  • @TVe200
    @TVe200 2 роки тому

    None of them are for me. I own 8 E-mouth lenses so to buy a R6 would be stupid even if it's a great camera.
    And cameras without EVF is absolutely no-no.

  • @popcornparam
    @popcornparam 2 роки тому +1

    So you learnt how to make thumbnails 😂😂😂

  • @popcornparam
    @popcornparam 2 роки тому +1

    Don't buy either. Just wait for R1

  • @nyambe
    @nyambe 2 роки тому

    They don’t really compare. If you like the Black Magic 6k you will like the Sony.

    • @OrdinaryFilmmaker
      @OrdinaryFilmmaker  2 роки тому

      I think you're missing the point fo the video ;)

    • @nyambe
      @nyambe 2 роки тому

      @@OrdinaryFilmmaker Clickbait, I know. But it's getting silly.

  • @Sashalexandros
    @Sashalexandros 2 роки тому

    R6 has a weak AF. Always need to press that AF button to search for eye, and it loses quickly, esp on events

  • @drbeardo6960
    @drbeardo6960 2 роки тому +2

    3rd