thank you! She made it through chemo and is over halfway through radiation treatment, the tumor is very small now so surgery should be easy hopefully@@GrimMeNaCe
Thanks for the comparison! Would be nice to have labels when showing the individual units especially during the audio test and the closeups. I'm new to all devices so I can't recognize them easily from one another.
All of these are available for good prices on AliExpress right now so I've decided to treat myself - kept changing my mind throughout the video but it's hard to beat the value of the R36S when it's the cheapest of the 4 yet also has the power to do a good amount of N64 and PSP, for which the sticks will be a useful addition. I don't like how cheap and flimsy it looks but I don't think any of these are really built to last, hopefully the market continues to grow and we'll be upgrading to something even better at a similar price point within the next couple of years.
After months diving into the portable scene I ended up with RG35XX Plus. Love the size, the power, battery and its starting to get better with the the custom OS. I discovered that I like to play on my bed after a day of work and the vertical body fits me really well! I recommend to use with a silicone case, it really helps with grip and ergonomics for those with larger hands. My runner up is for sure Miyoo Mini Plus, the true MVP of the bunch with a software that no other can reach till late 2024.
I love my Miyoo Mini Plus. Onion OS really makes it shine & love how potrable it is. I also have a Vita Jailbreak for when I need more. Great combo IMO.
how hard was it to make the change to onion os. does it make the audio quality better? i notice stock has slight sound crackling, nothing bad but noticeable
I got the R36S on your recommendation, and the screen is amazing! Blows my mind seeing games so bright and smooth...but I agree, the back buttons are very clicky, like flipping a light switch 😆
@@MyAmazingUsername and the stock software is the best among the machines i own (rg35xx, rg35xx, rg353v, r36s). PSP works amazing and has built-in Amiga support (although it is still somehow slow - only A500, not A1200). For me, it has also the best d-pad out of all of them. On most devices i default to using analog if it has it, (including nintendo switch controllers) but here DPAD is the king.
Onion OS is the game-changer for me, the ease of shutdown saves, etc.. Software really matters. I may enjoy fiddling at first but at the end of the day the more seamless experience is better, especially in handhelds that are pocketable / all about convenience.
I would agree that if you look at these handhelds from a software experience alone, Onion OS is well ahead of the rest. The other ones have good and serviceable options, but Onion really gives an experience like a AAA device.
Totally agree, the fact that I can easily access all the files from the browser through wifi without ever taking the sd out is a game changer to me, the Onion OS user experience makes all the difference to me
The RG35XX has GarlicOS which is directly modeled after OnionOS. I don't have a Miyoo so I'm not sure what the feature comparison is like, but GarlicOS is also a fantastic and seamless experience
I ordered the R36S. I wish it had built-in wi-fi, but for price, performance, and ergonomics it was the best for me. Plus, I got a Cyber-Monday deal for $39, so big win!
@@LorianandLothricI do really like it. Honestly, I thought I would update the OS and everything that I have seen on some videos, but I still just play games on it like it came out of the box! It's comfortable to hold and has so many games that I enjoy that I kind of just like it as is. Maybe someday I will update, but for now it is really fun.
I know it’s late but I remember seeing you can buy a USB A TO USB C Adapter for the r36s then run a specific wireless Wi-Fi adapter, then you should be able to install the update.
You're right about the Miyoo Mini Plus' d-pad and buttons. They're so comfortable, I can play almost anything with little to no struggle. The only time I may have a bit of difficulty is with a few fighting games, but that's only a small gripe. Also, as someone with big hands, I'm surprised how my hands adjusted to the Miyoo Mini Plus' size. I'm happy to say that I have no buyer's remorse in making it my first retro handheld.
@@budgetking2591 Doesn't matter to me. I wasn't expecting deep bass speakers and 4K HD, just something where I could play the games I want, and having a comfortable d-pad is a big part of that.
@@Diggy22 Have you tried a RG35XX Plus to compare its buttons? This is kinda where I'm stuck with my decision-making process. I want the better screen, better audio and better performance, bigger form factor, but great controls are extremely important to me too.
@@Lucrei. I can’t compare with the RG35XX+, but I can compare it to the R36S. The buttons on the Miyoo Mini+ feel a lot more comfortable compared to the R36S. Taki Udon said it best in the interview; the other devices’ buttons don’t feel as good as the Miyoo Mini+’s, and that goes a long way. Also, Onion OS is a big deal-maker; it makes saving games a lot smoother.
About the RG35XX +, one thing first: do NOT order the ambernic case, it's just bigger than it needs to be - actually the miyoo mini plus case is a near perfect fit (and much cheaper). The 35xx+ dpad feels slightly smaller than the MM+'s, but still quite comfortable - I like the texture (the perfect handheld dpad would be for me similar to the MM+'s, with the texture of the retroid pocket 2+). The device itself is definitely more comfortable than the MM+ for games using the shoulder buttons (been testing some F-Zero). Quite happy with this new purchase, and eagerly looking forward to future garlic OSs updates - once it's as convenient as the miyoo with onion, the bump in power will be a joy.
Hey man - so you stand by the Myoo Mini Plus case for the RG35XX+? It's crazy that a case for a smaller handheld fits the bigger one, but since it's cheap enough I'll take a punt...
This is one of THE most useful videos I've watched on these. It's great of you to mention "no one is rejecting displays because the colours are off" warning us about the QA at this price point. Also I had no idea the Myoo Mini Plus was so dark compared to the others. Another video said the opposite - that the Myoo Mini Plus was slightly brighter and richer than the RG35XX Plus... but in both his and your video, I can clearly see the Myoo's display is darker, so not sure why he said that...
1 Thing you didn't mention, which noone ever does and is really important to me. Time between the on button being pressed and being back into game via the latest savestate and how fast does it shutdown. For this the miyoo mini (and +) running onion is superb because if you're playing and turn it off it makes a savestate, and shuts down in less than 3 seconds and turning on takes 7 second and it boots directly back into game using that save state. For a handheld thats small enough to vanish in your pocket so i can carry permanently on me and use to fill in those little boring gaps in life like bus stops or waiting in line to get a coffee is incredibly important for it if you ask me, The other point is how fast can you change game to one you were playing b4 or recently and again, with the most recent savestate booted its fantastic too. To go back and forth between 2 games takes less than 2 seconds and for any recent game up for the last 20 odd is 3 to a few seconds as you just open the menu and select which all happens super quick. I'd really like to know how other handhelds stack up to that :-)
First bought the white r36 as my first retro handheld, had alot of fun with it mostly played alot of Gba, then sold it and later bought a black r36s. Didnt play it at all and later sold it. Now i bought a miyoo mini plus and i think its the best of them all. You can say it has worse power but the UI makes it so much more inviting to play on it. R36s is like the nintendo switch theme and miyoo mini is like the 3ds theme costumization
Great review - I did a little research before buying a 35xx and am happy with it,but I might have waited for the Plus if I had seen your video first. Excellent job!
I have the original 35xx and I bought an r36s for a friend and after setting it up, it's really hard not to order one for myself. I think the build quality and buttons are better on the 35xx, but the 36s is just the exact right size for my hands and I personally like the way the screen and bezel looks. For $40 the 36s is really just a crazy value.
The MMP has been perfect for me, so far! The build quality, button action, and d-pad are top-notch. I have been enjoying the "step up" shape from the shoulder buttons. It's the smallest! And I really enjoy the limitation of no analog sticks! I can play everything I want to comfortably for this form factor. Thanks for helping me make a decision, Taki!
Great comparison, it was really helpful to see them all together! One editing note that would help us viewers out would be to place the name of the device you were zooming in on (like for the display or sound comparison) so that we can know which is which! Other than that, awesome stuff!
@@kadirdurmaz8932 bro due to poor weather conditions the delivery was delayed, I am getting it today fingers crossed, will let you know the first impressions
I *WAS* in the market for a new device up until this morning, but thanks to a previous video of yours I bought a R36S and now I'm watching this video like "Please say the R36S is the best option, please, please"
I bought one this morning for £31.94 for the same reason. And honestly I'm gonna be more than happy with the r36s for ps1 and under and my steam deck for anything higher
For me, the best is the rg35xx plus, it has also just gone on sale and has a very large community with it and will increase its possibilities, performance and optimization, most likely in a few months, I think.
@@Anthony-Soprano I'm probably going with the Anbernic rg353vs. Has a nicer screen and has analogue joysticks. To bad the non Android version does not come I white. But I guess there is always something that makes it inperfect
GPU or no GPU the Miyoo is the only correct answer! No matter the question asked⁉️ Okay I'm joking/being sarcastic with the last part but Software > Hardware (in this special case/instance) Unbelievable handheld, best buttons, best screen, unreal experience, just on a different level. I mean completely different level! What works on it works well, and it works better than the others, plus if you u have Onion or Koriki which I use the experience is just incomparable 😊 With Koriki 1.4 every system has a overlay perfectly catered/tweaked for each & every system, so perfect, the games just look & play better than anything else, even the Steam Deck Oled! Best to try for yourself, don't let any of these videos sway you 😊 So yh if you have other more powerful handhelds that you use to play the more powerful systems then the Miyoo Mini is the one 😊
As for PS1 performance I guarantee you that the ePSXe emulator in the expert section in Onion plays PS1 better than any of them! Don't believe me try it, test it, enjoy! It's my favourite way to play PS1 games especially those that don't require triggers, it looks & plays the better than many other more powerful handhelds. I use the scanlines option (hidden gem like the standalone emulator itself) and I turn up the scanline brightness setting to about 75), there are 2 filters (eagle2x,scale2x), all this is subjective but when it comes to gameplay experience it's undeniable, unmatched. Remember no GPU + being underpowered etc.. Learn how to use the settings It's easy Next make a few changes Double the resolution + the hack on Audio interpolation I use Gaussian But simple is fine too No frame skip for most titles For more powerful games Use Auto Frame skip This frameskip is different Works differently It works smoothly Like many of these reviewers I got the 35xx plus early to test, it's nice but I still prefer the Miyoo. I have all them all, I test many.
R36S is really the best budget handheld I've ever purchased. The ARK OS inside really easy to navigate me through it. Also runs Kingdom Heart smoothly on the PSP which is my all time favorite game. That said, I still love to see more new ones on this budget price in the future.
Honorable mention to the SF2000 for being so damn cheap and still being a decent experience. But, yeah, the R36S is the value champ, for sure. I'm really enjoying playing some old GB/GBC gems I missed out on as a kid.
@@pfroo40SF2000 still struggles even with GBA and SNES afaik so it's No competition here so far I'd say. As soon as there's a proper CFW Out for the SF2000 it will be able to win the title for the best Budget emulator device next to the R36S for sure.
If I was purchasing one of these to fulfill the needs of an EDC pocketable device, I would go with the Miyoo Mini Plus. It's as tiny as I'd ever want to go, the software is mature and rock solid, there's wifi for RetroAchievements, and it's cheap. There's nothing extraneous that adds to the size or price like the R36S's analog sticks or RG35XX Plus's extra power.
It's funny that you considered that the software experience is unimportant. Personally, I considered that performance is actual unimportant at this price point. All of these systems aren't going to be good for anything that require more power (N64, PSP, DS, etc.) anyway due to the lack of joysticks (except the R36S) and touchscreen. And in this form factor, the most important aspect is how good the system is as a pocketable pick-up and play handheld. That's why the Miyoo Mini Plus got so popular. It's because of the Onion OS. It's just quick and easy to pick up and continue playing. imo, people who are looking for more power should just save their money and buy a more expensive handheld like the Retroid Pocket 3+ or RG505 (or RG405). They will have a much better experience with those devices. Wanting to play more demanding systems at this price point is just asking for headaches and buyer remorse.
I feel like you should have covered how easily these fit in your pocket, I think most people who want a portable emulator care about how easy it is to take this with you. Also it’s worth noting that if you want the most powerful device for portable emulation those tend to come in the horizontal form factor. Not in a vertical one like these.
Thanks for that comparison! After all this time a little info about performance at 17:10 on miyoo mini plus (Onion OS): If you use gpsp core to run the gb/gba games, the Fast Forward will can go up to almost 500 fps on the counting (330 on the same Pokemon game), faster than the 233+ fps the RG35XX Plus can do (This not counting the Plus using the same core).
Well - with a rebate code on Temu I got 3 of the R36S for $78 including shipping a while back. Had had the RG35XX Plus already... And frankly - I'm grabbing one of the R36S consoles every time! Especially when I'm "going out" I always grab one of these and so does my son - instead of our more expensive handhelds. It's PRETTY much the same experience, and the few "less good" things about them actually doesn't really matter much. With the price I've payed for them we don't need to be overly careful about them - Like I kinda do with my Odin 2... The fact that you can generally get about 10 R36S at the non-discounted price for 1 Odin 2 - sorta just makes the Odin 2 look like a bit of a waste for 80% of the time. The Odin 2 kicks their butt on the more demanding games though - no taking ANYTHING away from it because that console ROCKS pretty damn hard - just - for anyone not looking to spend like $400 - the R36S is an INSANELY good value - and especially the PS1 emulation is done very well on it IMO.
The Miyoo Mini plus was perfect for me as I don't want to emulate Dreamcast games, and I have a PSP. Mainly, I bought it because I've always wanted to be able to play Armored Core on-the-go, and the old PSP doesn't have four shoulder buttons lol. I am now satisfied lol
Same I have the smaller one it's perfect for the games I play on it. Mostly SNES, GBA and some Arcade. I have 3 other handhelds which are more powerful. Miyoo has it's place.
Since I've already bought a MMP for my 5 year old, and I bought the R36S last week(waiting on shipping). It's VERY satisfying to hear I've made 100% the right choices. Thank you Taki for all the details and comparisons!
My son isn't five yet, but that's the only handheld I find that he can use from all that I've given him, so I thought I'd throw that suggestion out for the retro gaming dads. XD
hi taki, i am new to handhelds so I am coming from a newbie perspective. I really must suggest thinking of some way for new viewers to keep track of "which" handheld is which. Either always keep them in the same order or label them on screen, or refer to them constantly by name instead of "this one".
I think you are wayyyy underselling the Miyoo Mini Plus. I have all of these devices and tons more but the MMP build quality is easily twice as good as any other. It seriously just feels great to hold. I like its build quality more than my Odin 2, or even my Steam Deck.
@@ΗΗΗΗΗΗ0000Well, yeah. Kids are rough with stuff. You don't wanna hand them something that'll fall apart instantly. But I believe he was talking about ergonomics when he said it was good for kids.
Got the Miyoo Mini Plus and I’m really happy with it. But if I had watched this video before, I would definitely buy the RG35XX Plus because of the HDMI and Bluetooth support. How sick it would be to play Pokémon games on your retro handheld, and then later on continue on your save by just pluging the same device to the TV and play from the couch.
Thanks for the review, I just got my RG35xx plus, and it's amazing! Though it's my first handheld emulator, so there's no comparison on hand. But I think the Miyoo Mini + would be too small for me. Based on the performance test you show I think the RG35XX plus is perfect!
As a completed newbie I understood how this stuff worked, I have all old consoles from GB up top PS2, and if I travel I don’t want to ruin my precious Pikachu Edition GBA or something but still like to play these games, so sorry Nintendo it’s gone be the miyue mini plus or the rg35xx plus, now I need to get to know how the OS running and pick what I’m the most comfortable with, I not have the biggest hands, so I won’t have problem with the miyuu mini plus. Thank you very much again, I bet you saved me hours of research in 20 minutes, but ngl old Gameboys run at like 30 fps, so I don’t need 60+ fps for that, I just care for the smooth handling and buttons 😁
Bought R36s Did not like the buttons Games up to psp most playing good Def jam fight for ny Dragon ball budKai 1 and 2 51 total including shipping Love it Plays great
Thanks a lot! I´m trying to buy a vertical one since i have a H one. You really helped me narrow down my options...I´m torn between RG35XX plus and the R36s hehe Thanks again!
Sound opinions: >Miyoo mini + is rough all around compared to the others >R36S has better bass for sure, but still a little buzzy >RG35XX has less bass and gets tinny on the high notes compared to others >RG35XX+ has the least noise, but doesn't quite hit the same bass as the R36S
R36S definitely sounded miles ahead from the others. As music is an important part in VG for me, I can't wait to listen to some of my favorite tunes on it. Also, can't believe how weak MM+'s speaker actually is.
Thank you for this video, it's very good. But boy, please make it easier for the viewer to differentiate these systems! They all look so similar and you are constantly changing the order you put these systems on the table. I always had to concentrate really hard to understand which model is which. I get that you were always ranking them from worst to best, but it made it SO difficult for me. And then you even changed the complete shell and thus looks of the RG35XX in the middle of the video without a single word! It would really help if you would stay more consistent throughout the video or put labels on the handhelds.
I'm honestly expecting the next wave of handheld emulators to all have sticks like the R36S, I'm slightly confused why the RG35XX doesn't have them, especially since the whole point of these devices is the convenience of being able to play a majority of supported games fully without having to jump extra hoops, wich include having to connect controllers. A good friend of mine which showed interest in these his whole standpoint was that the fact he was interested in a handheld what would be able to emulate up to N64 if not more and be able to play those games without having to break the bank and having to connect a controller.
There are some games that requiere both analog control and d-pad or will be completely unplayable, like Ape Escape on PS1. There are devices that have no analog sticks but bluetooth (for external controller support), but imho playing with an external controller is best on a bigger screen and doesn't suit this type of form factor. Some of these do support HDMI output tho, so in those cases it's an acceptable compromise if you want to play those kinds of games.
just got R36S and I totally love it, just few cons: - Led Light is too bright to play at night => we can fix by overlay it by a ducktape. - Button is not quite great but still playable - Joystick is not quite great for fighting/fast pacing game like as KOF, SS Overall it's king in the PP. Thank you so much
If Rg35xx Plus had anolog sticks I would definitely buy it. We need Rg35xx Plus pro or something lol. This morning I paid only 15 dollars more to Rgb30. I hope it works well.
@@play3rthr339 too expensive for me also too big. I live in turkey. We have %50 taxes 🤦♂️ that's why I bought Rgb30 at 98 dollars with tax. Now it's almost 140 dollars on Ali for me 🤦♂️
My son dropped his Miyoo Mini last night and the screen is now completely goofed in the lower right corner. I wish they made a sleeve for it that is permanent but allows it to still be comfortable. Love the video.
For me personally, for PS1 downwards, I much prefer my Miyoo Mini than all of these. I only really want to pick up and play in situations like waiting for a train, or travelling. If I want to actually game, I’m gonna want something with a bit more grunt, and comfort, with dual sticks (Retroid pocket 3+, and soon 4). I’d love to get a Steam Deck for emulation, but that’s one chunky boy to take out. Out of these I love the build quality of the Miyoo, and I’d probably go for the most comfortable/longest battery in the end. Great video.
@@Wvsolo12 pretty good, buttons aren’t too stiff. Shoulder buttons are a little loud but I expected that. There are some performance issues with N64 but again that was expected. The community around this device seems pretty strong so I’m pleased.
The dealbreaker is the bluetooth. If the Miyoo Mini+ had bluetooth pairing for earbuds... that would be have been my choice. The rg35xx plus has the bluetooth but reports are that it doesnt work at the moment... super bummed with the lack of attention on good bluetooth earbud pairing.
7:50 sometimes the size of the console matters based on the size of your hands. I got big hands and small devices don't do it for me as my thumbs will get "locked" and tire out. It's not a one-size-fits-all for everyone so choose wisely.
Correction:
RG35XX and RG35XX Plus are the ones with HDMI support (I said Wi-Fi). 13:40
I think the RG35XX and the Plus both have Wifi.
@@xman2k2 Only the Miyoo Mini Plus and 35xx Plus have Wifi, the non-plus models don't.
What models of handhelds can I get replacement buttons for that will fit perfectly in the r36s?
Asking because I want custom buttons from etsy
any experience with the "DATA FROG FCS Store " ? gonna hop onto the r36s train
@@KaitoJack His comment said that the Plus doesn't have Wi-Fi support
Bought a MMP for my sister to use during her chemo treatments and she loves it
I hope she gets better soon.
thank you! She made it through chemo and is over halfway through radiation treatment, the tumor is very small now so surgery should be easy hopefully@@GrimMeNaCe
Hope she’s doing better now🤍
Hi, we need updateeee, is ur sis okaay? You're a good brother to have done that..
How's your sister?
Thanks for the comparison! Would be nice to have labels when showing the individual units especially during the audio test and the closeups. I'm new to all devices so I can't recognize them easily from one another.
agree!
All of these are available for good prices on AliExpress right now so I've decided to treat myself - kept changing my mind throughout the video but it's hard to beat the value of the R36S when it's the cheapest of the 4 yet also has the power to do a good amount of N64 and PSP, for which the sticks will be a useful addition. I don't like how cheap and flimsy it looks but I don't think any of these are really built to last, hopefully the market continues to grow and we'll be upgrading to something even better at a similar price point within the next couple of years.
After months diving into the portable scene I ended up with RG35XX Plus. Love the size, the power, battery and its starting to get better with the the custom OS. I discovered that I like to play on my bed after a day of work and the vertical body fits me really well! I recommend to use with a silicone case, it really helps with grip and ergonomics for those with larger hands. My runner up is for sure Miyoo Mini Plus, the true MVP of the bunch with a software that no other can reach till late 2024.
I love my Miyoo Mini Plus. Onion OS really makes it shine & love how potrable it is. I also have a Vita Jailbreak for when I need more. Great combo IMO.
I have the same combo and i also have a psp go, but to travel and to take to work is always my miyoo mini
Ques: Do these four all gave the same preloaded games on them to plug & play??
how hard was it to make the change to onion os. does it make the audio quality better? i notice stock has slight sound crackling, nothing bad but noticeable
I bought a MMP after having an RG35XX+, knowing it was slower, just because the game switcher on onionos is so convenient.
@@chrispember172😅😅😊
Great comparison. Just ordered the R36S for 39€ incl. shipping as my first retro handheld.
Where from?
how is it?
I got the R36S on your recommendation, and the screen is amazing! Blows my mind seeing games so bright and smooth...but I agree, the back buttons are very clicky, like flipping a light switch 😆
The back buttons were one of my biggest beefs with my RG35xx as well. Mine came broken and seems to be a super common thing judging off reddit.
I went with the R36S simply because I enjoy playing games with analog sticks. Can’t wait to receive mine in a few weeks!
rg35xx + has a horizontal version
@@angreeeeThanks for that news! Sounds like the ideal one.
@@MyAmazingUsername and the stock software is the best among the machines i own (rg35xx, rg35xx, rg353v, r36s). PSP works amazing and has built-in Amiga support (although it is still somehow slow - only A500, not A1200). For me, it has also the best d-pad out of all of them. On most devices i default to using analog if it has it, (including nintendo switch controllers) but here DPAD is the king.
@@angreeeeI went with R36S
I bought the mini miyoo plus as my first retro handheld and i love it
Onion OS is the game-changer for me, the ease of shutdown saves, etc.. Software really matters. I may enjoy fiddling at first but at the end of the day the more seamless experience is better, especially in handhelds that are pocketable / all about convenience.
I would agree that if you look at these handhelds from a software experience alone, Onion OS is well ahead of the rest. The other ones have good and serviceable options, but Onion really gives an experience like a AAA device.
Totally agree, the fact that I can easily access all the files from the browser through wifi without ever taking the sd out is a game changer to me, the Onion OS user experience makes all the difference to me
The RG35XX has GarlicOS which is directly modeled after OnionOS. I don't have a Miyoo so I'm not sure what the feature comparison is like, but GarlicOS is also a fantastic and seamless experience
@@TheArbiter1999 it’s close in the UI, but Onion has more features and is just more polished all around.
Koriki for the miyoo is my personal favourite of all the custom softwares I've tried on these devices
I ordered the R36S. I wish it had built-in wi-fi, but for price, performance, and ergonomics it was the best for me. Plus, I got a Cyber-Monday deal for $39, so big win!
How is it? I got the RG35XX plus
@@markoquendo675 I don't know yet, it just cleared US Customs, should be here in a couple of days.
Can we get an update? Do you still like it?
@@LorianandLothricI do really like it. Honestly, I thought I would update the OS and everything that I have seen on some videos, but I still just play games on it like it came out of the box! It's comfortable to hold and has so many games that I enjoy that I kind of just like it as is. Maybe someday I will update, but for now it is really fun.
I know it’s late but I remember seeing you can buy a USB A TO USB C Adapter for the r36s then run a specific wireless Wi-Fi adapter, then you should be able to install the update.
You're right about the Miyoo Mini Plus' d-pad and buttons. They're so comfortable, I can play almost anything with little to no struggle. The only time I may have a bit of difficulty is with a few fighting games, but that's only a small gripe. Also, as someone with big hands, I'm surprised how my hands adjusted to the Miyoo Mini Plus' size. I'm happy to say that I have no buyer's remorse in making it my first retro handheld.
Thank you. I ordered mine without knowing there are other versions on the market and was a bit panicked that I made the wrong choice.
the display and audio quality seem pretty underwhelming, also its the least performant of all of them.@@hikariry
@@budgetking2591 Doesn't matter to me. I wasn't expecting deep bass speakers and 4K HD, just something where I could play the games I want, and having a comfortable d-pad is a big part of that.
@@Diggy22 Have you tried a RG35XX Plus to compare its buttons?
This is kinda where I'm stuck with my decision-making process. I want the better screen, better audio and better performance, bigger form factor, but great controls are extremely important to me too.
@@Lucrei. I can’t compare with the RG35XX+, but I can compare it to the R36S. The buttons on the Miyoo Mini+ feel a lot more comfortable compared to the R36S. Taki Udon said it best in the interview; the other devices’ buttons don’t feel as good as the Miyoo Mini+’s, and that goes a long way. Also, Onion OS is a big deal-maker; it makes saving games a lot smoother.
About the RG35XX +, one thing first: do NOT order the ambernic case, it's just bigger than it needs to be - actually the miyoo mini plus case is a near perfect fit (and much cheaper).
The 35xx+ dpad feels slightly smaller than the MM+'s, but still quite comfortable - I like the texture (the perfect handheld dpad would be for me similar to the MM+'s, with the texture of the retroid pocket 2+). The device itself is definitely more comfortable than the MM+ for games using the shoulder buttons (been testing some F-Zero).
Quite happy with this new purchase, and eagerly looking forward to future garlic OSs updates - once it's as convenient as the miyoo with onion, the bump in power will be a joy.
Hey man - so you stand by the Myoo Mini Plus case for the RG35XX+? It's crazy that a case for a smaller handheld fits the bigger one, but since it's cheap enough I'll take a punt...
This is one of THE most useful videos I've watched on these. It's great of you to mention "no one is rejecting displays because the colours are off" warning us about the QA at this price point. Also I had no idea the Myoo Mini Plus was so dark compared to the others. Another video said the opposite - that the Myoo Mini Plus was slightly brighter and richer than the RG35XX Plus... but in both his and your video, I can clearly see the Myoo's display is darker, so not sure why he said that...
1 Thing you didn't mention, which noone ever does and is really important to me.
Time between the on button being pressed and being back into game via the latest savestate and how fast does it shutdown.
For this the miyoo mini (and +) running onion is superb because if you're playing and turn it off it makes a savestate, and shuts down in less than 3 seconds and turning on takes 7 second and it boots directly back into game using that save state. For a handheld thats small enough to vanish in your pocket so i can carry permanently on me and use to fill in those little boring gaps in life like bus stops or waiting in line to get a coffee is incredibly important for it if you ask me,
The other point is how fast can you change game to one you were playing b4 or recently and again, with the most recent savestate booted its fantastic too. To go back and forth between 2 games takes less than 2 seconds and for any recent game up for the last 20 odd is 3 to a few seconds as you just open the menu and select which all happens super quick.
I'd really like to know how other handhelds stack up to that :-)
I just bought the R36s for the analog stick. thanks for the video!
First bought the white r36 as my first retro handheld, had alot of fun with it mostly played alot of Gba, then sold it and later bought a black r36s. Didnt play it at all and later sold it. Now i bought a miyoo mini plus and i think its the best of them all. You can say it has worse power but the UI makes it so much more inviting to play on it. R36s is like the nintendo switch theme and miyoo mini is like the 3ds theme costumization
Great review - I did a little research before buying a 35xx and am happy with it,but I might have waited for the Plus if I had seen your video first. Excellent job!
Which one should I buy? The rg35xx plus or the r36s
I have the original 35xx and I bought an r36s for a friend and after setting it up, it's really hard not to order one for myself. I think the build quality and buttons are better on the 35xx, but the 36s is just the exact right size for my hands and I personally like the way the screen and bezel looks. For $40 the 36s is really just a crazy value.
Where you find for $40? Lowest I found was $42 for purple and $45 for other colors.
Do you know of any handheld available these days that has analog sticks but also the power of the rg35xx plus?
RG35xx H. It's the Plus with analogs in a horizontal form factor.
The R36S is my favorite by far. The picture quality is so much better than the others
After watching your video, I ended up buying the Miyoo Mini+, RG35xx Plus, and RG35xxSP. I found out I like the RG35xxSP the most
Exactly the comparison i need at the moment, perfect timing.
Yeah it was what everyone was talking about recently. I have a MM+ and immediately got a R36S ordered recently as soon as I saw it.
The MMP has been perfect for me, so far! The build quality, button action, and d-pad are top-notch. I have been enjoying the "step up" shape from the shoulder buttons. It's the smallest! And I really enjoy the limitation of no analog sticks! I can play everything I want to comfortably for this form factor. Thanks for helping me make a decision, Taki!
Agree. I like their shoulder button design.
Great comparison, it was really helpful to see them all together! One editing note that would help us viewers out would be to place the name of the device you were zooming in on (like for the display or sound comparison) so that we can know which is which! Other than that, awesome stuff!
Thank you. I ordered RG35XX Plus after watching this video in Korea. 68,890KRW 51.72$
my miyoo mini plus is arriving tomorrow, man am I excited
Bro did you get it? What is your first expressions? I’m waiting mine and it’s arriving in a week I think
@@kadirdurmaz8932 bro due to poor weather conditions the delivery was delayed, I am getting it today fingers crossed, will let you know the first impressions
Great comparison. I have just ordered Miyoo Mini plus as my first retro handheld for ease of use.
Hope you enjoy it!
@@TakiUdon Thanks!
I started with the miyoo mini plus, then moved to anbernic with the arc s and then the 35xxh. I love them all for different things
Finally, the video everyone (interested in cheap handhelds) is looking for
What an awesome video! Thoughtful and complete. I ordered my RS35XX and hopefully I'll enjoy it. Thank you sir.
I *WAS* in the market for a new device up until this morning, but thanks to a previous video of yours I bought a R36S and now I'm watching this video like "Please say the R36S is the best option, please, please"
You are not alone!
Literally same. Just ordered the R36S last night for like $45 including shipping. Seems like a pretty good deal.
I bought one this morning for £31.94 for the same reason. And honestly I'm gonna be more than happy with the r36s for ps1 and under and my steam deck for anything higher
lol same! Impulse buy. I wanted the sticks for psp
Mine didn't even last two weeks before it stopped charging. return was simple enough at least
For me, the best is the rg35xx plus, it has also just gone on sale and has a very large community with it and will increase its possibilities, performance and optimization, most likely in a few months, I think.
If garlic matures on it, I'd prob agree.
It's a shame it does not have analog joysticks... That would have been the dream console
@@NinoJoelr35xxh coming soon
@@Anthony-Soprano I'm probably going with the Anbernic rg353vs.
Has a nicer screen and has analogue joysticks.
To bad the non Android version does not come I white.
But I guess there is always something that makes it inperfect
i feel like the r35xxh is going to make all these other handhelds below 100 euro redundant@@Anthony-Soprano
Thanks for the video. Your editing is always top notch.
GPU or no GPU the Miyoo is the only correct answer! No matter the question asked⁉️ Okay I'm joking/being sarcastic with the last part but Software > Hardware (in this special case/instance)
Unbelievable handheld, best buttons, best screen, unreal experience, just on a different level. I mean completely different level! What works on it works well, and it works better than the others, plus if you u have Onion or Koriki which I use the experience is just incomparable 😊 With Koriki 1.4 every system has a overlay perfectly catered/tweaked for each & every system, so perfect, the games just look & play better than anything else, even the Steam Deck Oled! Best to try for yourself, don't let any of these videos sway you 😊
So yh if you have other more powerful handhelds that you use to play the more powerful systems then the Miyoo Mini is the one 😊
Your bias is showing.
As for PS1 performance I guarantee you that the ePSXe emulator in the expert section in Onion plays PS1 better than any of them! Don't believe me try it, test it, enjoy!
It's my favourite way to play PS1 games especially those that don't require triggers, it looks & plays the better than many other more powerful handhelds. I use the scanlines option (hidden gem like the standalone emulator itself) and I turn up the scanline brightness setting to about 75), there are 2 filters (eagle2x,scale2x), all this is subjective but when it comes to gameplay experience it's undeniable, unmatched. Remember no GPU + being underpowered etc..
Learn how to use the settings
It's easy
Next make a few changes
Double the resolution + the hack on
Audio interpolation I use Gaussian
But simple is fine too
No frame skip for most titles
For more powerful games
Use Auto Frame skip
This frameskip is different
Works differently
It works smoothly
Like many of these reviewers I got the 35xx plus early to test, it's nice but I still prefer the Miyoo. I have all them all, I test many.
Same opinion here, recommend a device of this kind requires more study than comparing harware aspects .
R36S is really the best budget handheld I've ever purchased. The ARK OS inside really easy to navigate me through it. Also runs Kingdom Heart smoothly on the PSP which is my all time favorite game. That said, I still love to see more new ones on this budget price in the future.
Honorable mention to the SF2000 for being so damn cheap and still being a decent experience. But, yeah, the R36S is the value champ, for sure. I'm really enjoying playing some old GB/GBC gems I missed out on as a kid.
@@pfroo40SF2000 still struggles even with GBA and SNES afaik so it's No competition here so far I'd say. As soon as there's a proper CFW Out for the SF2000 it will be able to win the title for the best Budget emulator device next to the R36S for sure.
Have you noticed the MAME menu coming on screen when playing MAME games?
If I was purchasing one of these to fulfill the needs of an EDC pocketable device, I would go with the Miyoo Mini Plus. It's as tiny as I'd ever want to go, the software is mature and rock solid, there's wifi for RetroAchievements, and it's cheap. There's nothing extraneous that adds to the size or price like the R36S's analog sticks or RG35XX Plus's extra power.
It's funny that you considered that the software experience is unimportant. Personally, I considered that performance is actual unimportant at this price point. All of these systems aren't going to be good for anything that require more power (N64, PSP, DS, etc.) anyway due to the lack of joysticks (except the R36S) and touchscreen.
And in this form factor, the most important aspect is how good the system is as a pocketable pick-up and play handheld. That's why the Miyoo Mini Plus got so popular. It's because of the Onion OS. It's just quick and easy to pick up and continue playing.
imo, people who are looking for more power should just save their money and buy a more expensive handheld like the Retroid Pocket 3+ or RG505 (or RG405). They will have a much better experience with those devices. Wanting to play more demanding systems at this price point is just asking for headaches and buyer remorse.
Not unimportant, just don't get lost in the rabbit hole.
I didn't get the impression that he considered the software unimportant. He seemed to have a definite preference for Batocera.
This comment is the only right answer for people asking what to buy. Thanks for writing it.
10 months later... what the current meta?
Bought R36s as first retro handheld, having fun with that now. We need more devices like that.
does it supports psp games like assassins creed bloodlines and god of war chains of Olympus?
@@hello.4rpanrealize this is an old comment, but from what I've seen, AC: bloodlines runs pretty well but God of war is really laggy.
I feel like you should have covered how easily these fit in your pocket, I think most people who want a portable emulator care about how easy it is to take this with you. Also it’s worth noting that if you want the most powerful device for portable emulation those tend to come in the horizontal form factor. Not in a vertical one like these.
one advantage of the mini plus is the form factor is just compact enough to play one handed for someone with medium size hands. good for rpgs
Thanks for that comparison! After all this time a little info about performance at 17:10 on miyoo mini plus (Onion OS): If you use gpsp core to run the gb/gba games, the Fast Forward will can go up to almost 500 fps on the counting (330 on the same Pokemon game), faster than the 233+ fps the RG35XX Plus can do (This not counting the Plus using the same core).
Well - with a rebate code on Temu I got 3 of the R36S for $78 including shipping a while back. Had had the RG35XX Plus already... And frankly - I'm grabbing one of the R36S consoles every time! Especially when I'm "going out" I always grab one of these and so does my son - instead of our more expensive handhelds. It's PRETTY much the same experience, and the few "less good" things about them actually doesn't really matter much. With the price I've payed for them we don't need to be overly careful about them - Like I kinda do with my Odin 2... The fact that you can generally get about 10 R36S at the non-discounted price for 1 Odin 2 - sorta just makes the Odin 2 look like a bit of a waste for 80% of the time. The Odin 2 kicks their butt on the more demanding games though - no taking ANYTHING away from it because that console ROCKS pretty damn hard - just - for anyone not looking to spend like $400 - the R36S is an INSANELY good value - and especially the PS1 emulation is done very well on it IMO.
If you’re a madman, just buy all 3.
*video shows 4
@@TheMysteryDriver 35XX is obsolete now. What's the point of buying the original when the 35XX+ has released... So 3.
@@AFFL1CTED1THERE ARE 4 LIGHTS!
Say no more :)
The virginity in this comment thread is alarming
this is exactly what i needed to make my decision, very helpful thank you, i choose the rg35xx +
The Miyoo Mini plus was perfect for me as I don't want to emulate Dreamcast games, and I have a PSP.
Mainly, I bought it because I've always wanted to be able to play Armored Core on-the-go, and the old PSP doesn't have four shoulder buttons lol. I am now satisfied lol
Same I have the smaller one it's perfect for the games I play on it. Mostly SNES, GBA and some Arcade. I have 3 other handhelds which are more powerful. Miyoo has it's place.
Thanks for the comparison video.
my decision is R36S.
Since I've already bought a MMP for my 5 year old, and I bought the R36S last week(waiting on shipping). It's VERY satisfying to hear I've made 100% the right choices. Thank you Taki for all the details and comparisons!
My son isn't five yet, but that's the only handheld I find that he can use from all that I've given him, so I thought I'd throw that suggestion out for the retro gaming dads. XD
@@TakiUdonisn't the Miyoo Mini Plus the most fragile though, I think a drop on the floor would break the Screen.
@@TakiUdonthe nano seems good for retro kids too
Just ordered an R36s! Thank you for the reviews 😊
Thank you for making this video. I really wanted to see a review before I bought anything to make sure it wasn't a scam.
hi taki, i am new to handhelds so I am coming from a newbie perspective. I really must suggest thinking of some way for new viewers to keep track of "which" handheld is which. Either always keep them in the same order or label them on screen, or refer to them constantly by name instead of "this one".
Already own the RG35XX but the features of the Plus really makes me want to get one!
dang i didnt expect this to help me but it actually did thank you
I think you are wayyyy underselling the Miyoo Mini Plus. I have all of these devices and tons more but the MMP build quality is easily twice as good as any other. It seriously just feels great to hold. I like its build quality more than my Odin 2, or even my Steam Deck.
I said the MMP shell felt the best, so we agree in that sense. (the shoulder buttons also don't make loud rattling sounds when you use it)
@@TakiUdonyou said its for kids 😂
@@ΗΗΗΗΗΗ0000Well, yeah. Kids are rough with stuff. You don't wanna hand them something that'll fall apart instantly. But I believe he was talking about ergonomics when he said it was good for kids.
so you havent watched an entire video huh@@Caidezes
@lIlIIllIIllIlIIIIl I did. Nice job being conceited, though.
I have a Miyoo Mini+ and a OLED Steam Deck. Perfect combo.
I have a mini plus and a GPD winmax which is practically a clamshell steam deck.
Got the Miyoo Mini Plus and I’m really happy with it. But if I had watched this video before, I would definitely buy the RG35XX Plus because of the HDMI and Bluetooth support. How sick it would be to play Pokémon games on your retro handheld, and then later on continue on your save by just pluging the same device to the TV and play from the couch.
R36S HERE and im amazed
Thanks for the review, I just got my RG35xx plus, and it's amazing! Though it's my first handheld emulator, so there's no comparison on hand. But I think the Miyoo Mini + would be too small for me. Based on the performance test you show I think the RG35XX plus is perfect!
As a completed newbie I understood how this stuff worked, I have all old consoles from GB up top PS2, and if I travel I don’t want to ruin my precious Pikachu Edition GBA or something but still like to play these games, so sorry Nintendo it’s gone be the miyue mini plus or the rg35xx plus, now I need to get to know how the OS running and pick what I’m the most comfortable with, I not have the biggest hands, so I won’t have problem with the miyuu mini plus. Thank you very much again, I bet you saved me hours of research in 20 minutes, but ngl old Gameboys run at like 30 fps, so I don’t need 60+ fps for that, I just care for the smooth handling and buttons 😁
Fantastic comparison! Thanks!👍👍
This was the exact video I needed to help me decide. Thanks Taki!
Bought R36s
Did not like the buttons
Games up to psp most playing good
Def jam fight for ny
Dragon ball budKai
1 and 2
51 total including shipping
Love it
Plays great
I already own a GG35XX and I'm happy with the PlayStation emulator. I'm waiting for the shipment of R36S 😊
Thanks a lot! I´m trying to buy a vertical one since i have a H one. You really helped me narrow down my options...I´m torn between RG35XX plus and the R36s hehe Thanks again!
If you already have the H why not go for the mm plus?
Thanks alot for the video! Ordered the RG35XX Plus ^^
Just purchased a RG35XX due to the big holiday sale they have. I got it with taxes and shipping for more then 30$ cheaper then the RG35XX Plus.
Man, if I could give a thumb up for each table you make.... keep up the good work pls
Bought my first two recently and went RG35XX Plus and RGB30
The Miyoo Mini Flip can't come soon enough. Spec bump, and hopefully MUCH nicer ergonomics too.
This is what I'm waiting for.
Thank you! This was the exact video I was looking for to decide on my Christmas gift to myself
This is just great.. done check out with 35xx plus
MM+ is the way to go. Nothing beats the Onion OS experience.
Sound opinions:
>Miyoo mini + is rough all around compared to the others
>R36S has better bass for sure, but still a little buzzy
>RG35XX has less bass and gets tinny on the high notes compared to others
>RG35XX+ has the least noise, but doesn't quite hit the same bass as the R36S
R36S definitely sounded miles ahead from the others. As music is an important part in VG for me, I can't wait to listen to some of my favorite tunes on it. Also, can't believe how weak MM+'s speaker actually is.
I absolutely love your conclusion!!! Thanks for that breakdown!! More people need to do this
I'm 30 ducking 8 years olds and I LOVE MI SUM MIYOO DUDE!, and I ain't ever goin stop!
just ordered an R36s for €35 from Aliexpress thank you
Now THIS is a Review!
In my mind; I've already eliminated the ones I would avoid - RG35XX & RG36, leaving the Miyoo Mini Plus & RG35XX Plus
Thank you
Absolutely
This was an excellent breakdown. Thank you!
Amazing comparison! Just what I needed. I want the r36s
Thank you for this video, it's very good. But boy, please make it easier for the viewer to differentiate these systems!
They all look so similar and you are constantly changing the order you put these systems on the table. I always had to concentrate really hard to understand which model is which. I get that you were always ranking them from worst to best, but it made it SO difficult for me. And then you even changed the complete shell and thus looks of the RG35XX in the middle of the video without a single word!
It would really help if you would stay more consistent throughout the video or put labels on the handhelds.
I'm honestly expecting the next wave of handheld emulators to all have sticks like the R36S, I'm slightly confused why the RG35XX doesn't have them, especially since the whole point of these devices is the convenience of being able to play a majority of supported games fully without having to jump extra hoops, wich include having to connect controllers.
A good friend of mine which showed interest in these his whole standpoint was that the fact he was interested in a handheld what would be able to emulate up to N64 if not more and be able to play those games without having to break the bank and having to connect a controller.
I strongly prefer the simpler, more compact devices without the twin sticks. I’m fine mapping the stick to the d-pad.
There are some games that requiere both analog control and d-pad or will be completely unplayable, like Ape Escape on PS1. There are devices that have no analog sticks but bluetooth (for external controller support), but imho playing with an external controller is best on a bigger screen and doesn't suit this type of form factor.
Some of these do support HDMI output tho, so in those cases it's an acceptable compromise if you want to play those kinds of games.
Great comparison. I've been using mm+ for few weeks as my first retro gaming handheld and I love it but can't wait for rg5xx plus to arrive :)
just got R36S and I totally love it, just few cons:
- Led Light is too bright to play at night => we can fix by overlay it by a ducktape.
- Button is not quite great but still playable
- Joystick is not quite great for fighting/fast pacing game like as KOF, SS
Overall it's king in the PP.
Thank you so much
Wish "Trimui Smart Pro" missing from that nice comparison! Great video!
If Rg35xx Plus had anolog sticks I would definitely buy it. We need Rg35xx Plus pro or something lol. This morning I paid only 15 dollars more to Rgb30. I hope it works well.
You'd be looking at the RG353V then, not quite as powerful or ergonomic, but it has the sticks.
@@play3rthr339 too expensive for me also too big. I live in turkey. We have %50 taxes 🤦♂️ that's why I bought Rgb30 at 98 dollars with tax. Now it's almost 140 dollars on Ali for me 🤦♂️
@@play3rthr339 RG353 is more powerful than Rg35XX+
My son dropped his Miyoo Mini last night and the screen is now completely goofed in the lower right corner. I wish they made a sleeve for it that is permanent but allows it to still be comfortable. Love the video.
There's a bumper Case available I believe
I have to admit that I'm still undecided between the R63s and the RG35xx, both seem good to me.
Great and thorough vid Taki!
For me personally, for PS1 downwards, I much prefer my Miyoo Mini than all of these. I only really want to pick up and play in situations like waiting for a train, or travelling. If I want to actually game, I’m gonna want something with a bit more grunt, and comfort, with dual sticks (Retroid pocket 3+, and soon 4).
I’d love to get a Steam Deck for emulation, but that’s one chunky boy to take out.
Out of these I love the build quality of the Miyoo, and I’d probably go for the most comfortable/longest battery in the end.
Great video.
I’m waiting for my r36s to arrive. Really excited for it.
How is it
@@Wvsolo12 pretty good, buttons aren’t too stiff. Shoulder buttons are a little loud but I expected that. There are some performance issues with N64 but again that was expected. The community around this device seems pretty strong so I’m pleased.
@@JordanRatcliff only want it for my breaks at work and the odd bedtime hour here n there so should do me fine 👊Thanks for the reply
The dealbreaker is the bluetooth. If the Miyoo Mini+ had bluetooth pairing for earbuds... that would be have been my choice. The rg35xx plus has the bluetooth but reports are that it doesnt work at the moment... super bummed with the lack of attention on good bluetooth earbud pairing.
bluetooth on handhelds = audio delay
so what? :)
Dude. Awesome informative video. Kudos 👍🏽
Excellent. Thank you!!!
I have the Miyoo Mini V4. With the new Onion Os 4.3, the screen looks amazing.
The screen on my Miyoo Mini Plus is bright and vibrant so I don't know what's wrong with yours.
Screen lottery: 10:52
Same here. Generally MM+ screen is considered excellent. But consistent quality also isn't exactly a big thing with these devices.
@@thenonexistinghero Indeed. Fair point - he evidently was in the unlucky minority.
Santa is bringing a couple Miyoo mini + for my 8 and 10 year old boy, and getting onion is working has been a blast. Cool devices for sure
My RG35XX+ arrives tomorrow and I'm super excited! Can't wait for the custom firmware's to be released for it!
Me too! I’m disappointed that I couldn’t play Mario Brothers right out of the box.
Do N64 games actually play ok on the R36s? Looking to buy this but want to play some N64 games (like mario kart and mario64)
7:50 sometimes the size of the console matters based on the size of your hands. I got big hands and small devices don't do it for me as my thumbs will get "locked" and tire out.
It's not a one-size-fits-all for everyone so choose wisely.