Since it uses AMD Ryzen, it's really more of an HP Envy replacement, which explains the sacrifices. Unfortunately, premium chassis & AMD don't seem to mix for most OEMs. Since it's really an Envy in disguise, it needs to go on heavy sales to be worth it, which should be possible given the precedents of Envy laptop sales. I hate that HP changed to the Omnibook branding to make its lineup more confusing. It's clear that this was a deliberate choice to sell cheaper laptops at a more premium price.
I saw this the other day with the Ryzen AI 9 365, 32GB RAM and 1TB SSD configuration for £1200 with HPs 3 year care pack bundled in at no extra cost. For that price it represents good value and I was debating buying it but felt unsure because of its heft, dated design and mixed results and thoughts on its battery life. I wanted to see more reviews of the product and noticed that you would have a review out on it by next week so I waited. Thanks for the thorough review and for testing Linux on it! Unfortunately the price is now back to £1750 in the UK and the HX375 doesn't seem to be available here yet. If it goes back to £1200 I might just have to get it. A glass display that isn't OLED is a must for me
@richtigmann1 Exactly. Jarrod's Tech does it for every laptop he reviews, so Josh with a whole team really should! It's not that difficult to test either (as long as it's not the recent Qualcomm X Elite SoCs whose support for Linux is still a work in progress) and it doesn't take too long!
Great review thanks for putting the effort in these videos. Here are a couple of suggestions for things I think are worth measuring. 1. you're the only channel I've seen that tests laptops from the prospective of a software developer, testing Linux is great but I'd also like to know how that affects battery life and power consumption when sleeping. 2. Battery tests for high performance work loads is not fair for higher performance laptops. Maybe testing how much battery and time is consumed to complete a heavy task like compiling a large application or expiring a video. Again keep the great work
Big agree, battery life and performance on linux are going to be big factors to consider. Linux is only becoming more popular of a choice, so it's becoming more important that these things be known
In the UK this was on sale on the HP website for £999 including the extended warranty. Don't think it was at this price for long - I'd been looking at laptops for work and I think I would have noticed. Didn't press the button and it's £1300+ now, but think it will go back down again soon
Wait, are you saying that there won't be a new Spectre 360 and they just got replaced by the Omnibook flip indefinitely? (Then I won't need to wait anymore
I agree that £1500 to £1750 for this laptop in the UK is quite expensive. Intel and AMD premium ultrabooks are now priced similarly to MacBooks in this market, largely because they have shifted to starting at 16GB of RAM. A couple of years ago, I purchased a premium ultrabook for £800 to £900 with 8GB of RAM and a 256GB storage drive, which was all I needed to enjoy premium features. Now, with influencers pushing for a minimum of 16GB and no options available for those who still prefer 8GB, it seems we have to lower our expectations. I am sure that in 6-9 months when a new chip is due, this will drop to around £1200, but it is still too expensive for me. The 60Hz and 2.2K are fine for my usage as I do not game. Luckily, I got a new HP Omnibook X Elite on eBay for £600, so that suits my needs (office and browser-based). Still waiting for a couple of apps (Google Drive) to be available, but I have found workarounds for the moment. So, for price-sensitive buyers, this is a hard reach.
Josh, could you do some testing for responsiveness on battery with different processors? Personally, I saw a big difference. Apple M series ~ Snapdragon X > Intel > AMD. This is something very important to our daily usage while it's difficult to be measured by benchmarks.
@@adamski101 I have a macbook air m1, it does bother me, but as I bought it second hand for less than $600 with 16GB of ram, is a trade off. I'm on the lookout for a windows laptop that has decent hardware and 100+hz, but that below $1500 is a unicorn...
Never buy and HP laptop. I bought the Elitebook from 2022 thinking it was a premium device only to realize how poor build quality is for the price. What made me sell it at a loss was the palm rejection "feature" that sometimes would kick in for normal input use, locking the pointer in place. I thought it was broken so I contacted HP support and they send one technician after the other to check on it and they all confirmed that something was wrong but they couldn't fix it. Support ended when HP indeed confirmed this was a feature and not a bug. I couldn't believe it. Never again HP.
Excellent review, thanks, the AMD cpu isn't a ram on package apu, it doesn't make sense these OEMs are soldering RAM on APUs that support a 265 gigs of ram , I'll wait until one of them releases thes CPUs the way they're designed rather than soldering ram. My 7 year old laptop has 32 gigs of RAM, base config on that was 8 gigs, upgrading ram kept it current, if I want my next to last more than a few years I need to have ram slots Thanks again Josh
My respect towards Josh is so evident that I watch the videos till the end even if he did say at the beginning the verdict and the laptop doesn't fit my needs. Much love ❤
I actually really liked it. I do agree there are some annoyances like the 1mm key travel down from 1.3mm. Video *should* be out Tuesday latest Wednesday
@@gigamomentDon't listen to him wait until more people review the Ultra Flip (Josh will drop it soon). It has the added benefit of being a 2-in-1, has a haptic touchpad, will most likely have a better keyboard if it retains the Spectre's keyboard, both have similar 2.8k OLED touchscreens and both will have Lunar Lake so performance and battery life should be comparable. The Zenbook does have better ports and maybe better speakers.
The color gamut on that laptop is a show-stopper. As for battery life, you can argue the screen helps but many higher refresh rate screens can be switched to 60hz while on battery. I think your initial instincts about this laptop are the correct ones. A good AMD chip is hampered by bad engineering.
Please change your heavy load battery test. It's meaningless without capping performance to an acceptable level. Please tell how many render cycles it completes in R23/R24 in that specific period.
@@maxweinbach3996 thunderbolt is a tech developed by Intel and apple and has to be licensed. They're similar in what they do but not exactly the same when it comes to bandwidth and display outputs
@@maxweinbach3996 main difference with thunderbolt 4 you can do two 4k60hz displays from the single port, usb4 can only do a single display from it. Also if it's USB 4 the transfer speeds could be 20 or 40gbps depending on the manufacturer whereas thunderbolt 4 is minimum 32gbps
Nice video as always but the lunar lake offerings are missing in a lot of the cpu/gpu charts It does seem like if your going hp, the omnibook flip ultra is a nobrainer over this
pffff, can't we have reasonable laptop namings? Like X = snapdragon, ultra = intel core ultra etc? I guess it could have been worse, like hp omnibook ultra pro X turbo mega power super elite lite... btw meeeh laptop...
just be honest guys. shits should not be so expensive. 700-900$ is a better spot for this type of shit. I think ultrabooks are scams.Even, Chromebook is better that in a sense. only the hx37** is something i would consider.
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it's so funny to me that all i do is buy 13/14inch windows laptops and every few years it just cycles. it's as if no company can stay on top for long enough. went from asus to xps to surface to hp spectre and now it looks i'll have to switch again with zen 6. lol
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OEMs need to stop making AMD Ryzen options in worse chassis! 😡
I guess intel and nvidia is forcing them to make amd look bad
We still have the power of non purchasing any laptop or non intel-nvidia and deal with 60hz until things change
@@Games_and_Tech Or just waiting and buying nothing. Wait until 2025.
Asus zenbook s16 ryzen Ai 9 370 is redeeming other Brand's crappy designs 🤔
That makes no sense @@superqaxclub
Since it uses AMD Ryzen, it's really more of an HP Envy replacement, which explains the sacrifices. Unfortunately, premium chassis & AMD don't seem to mix for most OEMs. Since it's really an Envy in disguise, it needs to go on heavy sales to be worth it, which should be possible given the precedents of Envy laptop sales.
I hate that HP changed to the Omnibook branding to make its lineup more confusing. It's clear that this was a deliberate choice to sell cheaper laptops at a more premium price.
It really is getting annoying. Why do they keep doing this?
No laptop over 1500 dollars should have a 60hz screen
😂 my eyes literally hurt when scrolling @60hz, even my 3 years old TV is 120hz
Basically any laptop in 2024 that isn't a super budget laptop should have at least 90hz
Except the macbook, right?
Idk why people are so hyped about 90Hz, it’s extra cost that comes with no extra functionality 😅
@@mikoajflis3185 Well it is a bit smoother ofc, it should definitely be the minimum tho
I saw this the other day with the Ryzen AI 9 365, 32GB RAM and 1TB SSD configuration for £1200 with HPs 3 year care pack bundled in at no extra cost. For that price it represents good value and I was debating buying it but felt unsure because of its heft, dated design and mixed results and thoughts on its battery life. I wanted to see more reviews of the product and noticed that you would have a review out on it by next week so I waited. Thanks for the thorough review and for testing Linux on it! Unfortunately the price is now back to £1750 in the UK and the HX375 doesn't seem to be available here yet. If it goes back to £1200 I might just have to get it. A glass display that isn't OLED is a must for me
Love that you guys test Linux compatibility! Very much appreciated
@@SimonDaugbjerg they need to do that more...
Agreed!!! It's a really big deal when you buy a laptop and you find out your OS isn't even compatible. PLEASE do this with every laptop!!
@richtigmann1 Exactly. Jarrod's Tech does it for every laptop he reviews, so Josh with a whole team really should! It's not that difficult to test either (as long as it's not the recent Qualcomm X Elite SoCs whose support for Linux is still a work in progress) and it doesn't take too long!
Wait so these new omnibooks are replacing the spectre line? Big time sad😭
"as we are ballers, we chose Fedora 41 beta"
Hell yeah brother
Great to see you around MR JOSH
Thank you for testing it will Linux ❤
Great review thanks for putting the effort in these videos.
Here are a couple of suggestions for things I think are worth measuring.
1. you're the only channel I've seen that tests laptops from the prospective of a software developer, testing Linux is great but I'd also like to know how that affects battery life and power consumption when sleeping.
2. Battery tests for high performance work loads is not fair for higher performance laptops. Maybe testing how much battery and time is consumed to complete a heavy task like compiling a large application or expiring a video.
Again keep the great work
Big agree, battery life and performance on linux are going to be big factors to consider. Linux is only becoming more popular of a choice, so it's becoming more important that these things be known
In the UK this was on sale on the HP website for £999 including the extended warranty. Don't think it was at this price for long - I'd been looking at laptops for work and I think I would have noticed. Didn't press the button and it's £1300+ now, but think it will go back down again soon
Wait, are you saying that there won't be a new Spectre 360 and they just got replaced by the Omnibook flip indefinitely? (Then I won't need to wait anymore
No more Spectre laptops.
I agree that £1500 to £1750 for this laptop in the UK is quite expensive. Intel and AMD premium ultrabooks are now priced similarly to MacBooks in this market, largely because they have shifted to starting at 16GB of RAM. A couple of years ago, I purchased a premium ultrabook for £800 to £900 with 8GB of RAM and a 256GB storage drive, which was all I needed to enjoy premium features. Now, with influencers pushing for a minimum of 16GB and no options available for those who still prefer 8GB, it seems we have to lower our expectations.
I am sure that in 6-9 months when a new chip is due, this will drop to around £1200, but it is still too expensive for me. The 60Hz and 2.2K are fine for my usage as I do not game. Luckily, I got a new HP Omnibook X Elite on eBay for £600, so that suits my needs (office and browser-based). Still waiting for a couple of apps (Google Drive) to be available, but I have found workarounds for the moment.
So, for price-sensitive buyers, this is a hard reach.
As usual, an excellent, no B.S. video! Thank you and thumbs up!
Josh, could you do some testing for responsiveness on battery with different processors? Personally, I saw a big difference. Apple M series ~ Snapdragon X > Intel > AMD. This is something very important to our daily usage while it's difficult to be measured by benchmarks.
thanks once more for the linux segment! thx to ur spectre review, i bought a spectre 14 and typing this comment on linux!
Again 60hz on a 1000plus laptop, absolutely insane.
Doesn't seem to bother Apple fans.
Better than a macbook, right?
@@adamski101 I have a macbook air m1, it does bother me, but as I bought it second hand for less than $600 with 16GB of ram, is a trade off. I'm on the lookout for a windows laptop that has decent hardware and 100+hz, but that below $1500 is a unicorn...
Hi Josh, I’m a big fan of your clear reviews. Can you please review the hp elitebook 1040 g11?
I lOVE Stiff Hinges 😍❤
Never buy and HP laptop. I bought the Elitebook from 2022 thinking it was a premium device only to realize how poor build quality is for the price. What made me sell it at a loss was the palm rejection "feature" that sometimes would kick in for normal input use, locking the pointer in place. I thought it was broken so I contacted HP support and they send one technician after the other to check on it and they all confirmed that something was wrong but they couldn't fix it. Support ended when HP indeed confirmed this was a feature and not a bug. I couldn't believe it. Never again HP.
I think AMD needs to focus more on lower TDP, 12W or even 10W.
Hey just josh i love 2 in 1 when i have to buy it ? At beginning of 2025? Now?
Can you help me ? Windows choices kill me 😂
The 375 has a considerably better igpu than the 360/36t (think its 12 to 16 compute units?)
Excellent review, thanks, the AMD cpu isn't a ram on package apu, it doesn't make sense these OEMs are soldering RAM on APUs that support a 265 gigs of ram , I'll wait until one of them releases thes CPUs the way they're designed rather than soldering ram.
My 7 year old laptop has 32 gigs of RAM, base config on that was 8 gigs, upgrading ram kept it current, if I want my next to last more than a few years I need to have ram slots
Thanks again Josh
a daily driver device should be something you should fall in love with not something you look at with disgust from the essence of life that made you.
My respect towards Josh is so evident that I watch the videos till the end even if he did say at the beginning the verdict and the laptop doesn't fit my needs. Much love ❤
Thank you so much
I'm considering a new lenovo yoga pro 7 with ryzen 9 365. Can you give this a video ? I would be grateful ❤!
I thought it was the intel version with lunar lake. I will just keep waiting
For the same price you can get the tuf14 with the same cou, nvidia graphics and high refresh rate screen. What is even the point of this?
Is ASUS Vivobook S 16 OLED with AMD Ryzen 5 7535HS, 16Gb of DDR5 ram, 512Gb ssd and OLED 3200х2000 120Hz display any good?
Speakers section: What's song is that? I feel like I asked like that but nothing responses
Its not looking good for the OmniBook Ultra Flip...
At best, it seems to be a side-grade from the Spectre 14
I actually really liked it. I do agree there are some annoyances like the 1mm key travel down from 1.3mm. Video *should* be out Tuesday latest Wednesday
Omibook ultra flip or asus zenbook s14?
zenbook s 14 easily
@@prodrectifies No.
@@Gravage why so?
@@prodrectifieswhy ZenBook so easily? I really need to know
@@gigamomentDon't listen to him wait until more people review the Ultra Flip (Josh will drop it soon). It has the added benefit of being a 2-in-1, has a haptic touchpad, will most likely have a better keyboard if it retains the Spectre's keyboard, both have similar 2.8k OLED touchscreens and both will have Lunar Lake so performance and battery life should be comparable. The Zenbook does have better ports and maybe better speakers.
The color gamut on that laptop is a show-stopper. As for battery life, you can argue the screen helps but many higher refresh rate screens can be switched to 60hz while on battery. I think your initial instincts about this laptop are the correct ones. A good AMD chip is hampered by bad engineering.
Cinebench 2024 lacks arm64 SVE, SME and Apple AMX, its a bad benchmark.
The real score for apple is around score*120%
Please change your heavy load battery test. It's meaningless without capping performance to an acceptable level. Please tell how many render cycles it completes in R23/R24 in that specific period.
Its not a bad idea. I will speak to the team and see if there is a long running task we can cap it at
Thunderbolt in an amd? Did you mean usb 4
Whats the difference?
@@maxweinbach3996 thunderbolt is a tech developed by Intel and apple and has to be licensed. They're similar in what they do but not exactly the same when it comes to bandwidth and display outputs
@@Jamm1eone So...whats the difference?
@@maxweinbach3996 main difference with thunderbolt 4 you can do two 4k60hz displays from the single port, usb4 can only do a single display from it. Also if it's USB 4 the transfer speeds could be 20 or 40gbps depending on the manufacturer whereas thunderbolt 4 is minimum 32gbps
The lunar lake version seems like such a better laptop than this.
60Hz... 🤢
Like a macbook
Nice video as always but the lunar lake offerings are missing in a lot of the cpu/gpu charts
It does seem like if your going hp, the omnibook flip ultra is a nobrainer over this
pffff, can't we have reasonable laptop namings? Like X = snapdragon, ultra = intel core ultra etc? I guess it could have been worse, like hp omnibook ultra pro X turbo mega power super elite lite... btw meeeh laptop...
Thanks for another honest review. There are a lot of better laptops available at that price.
@justjoshtech tell do I buy the omnibook ultra flip or not, sale will be over before you post the review.
What’s your best budget laptop within $300 - $400 for live streaming while not charging and can still do 4k editing for videos
That price is way too low for 4k editing to be honest ,
@@mrbobgamingmemes9558 ok what’s the least budget for such laptop?
@@greatness15700
just be honest guys. shits should not be so expensive. 700-900$ is a better spot for this type of shit.
I think ultrabooks are scams.Even, Chromebook is better that in a sense. only the hx37** is something i would consider.
AAAAAAADMIN,PLEASE SEND THIS TO ASUS DESIGNER = we need labtops(mini pc , tablet) with amd 7800x3D and 5800x3D. and 9950xwith nvidia and amd gpu
FACT IS THAT INTELS ARE VERY HOT,GOOD DAYS END
I will never buy an HP laptop and yeah this laptop should have a 120hz screen and a haptic touchpad for that price. No haptic touchpad = no buy.
absurd price for so little. not worth $800.
it's so funny to me that all i do is buy 13/14inch windows laptops and every few years it just cycles. it's as if no company can stay on top for long enough. went from asus to xps to surface to hp spectre and now it looks i'll have to switch again with zen 6. lol
unjust josh
Awful laptop, where is AMD insuring OEMs don't mess up with the laptops that use they chips
@@Games_and_Tech That's Intel for you!
Oled + Window scaling + windows text rendering+ code on dark mode = text fringing
First
Can you give me advice. I love my laptops thin angular design small size and low weight. I need a new one but every new design get worse with no ports and weird keyboards. Can you suggest one that is like mine or better? Dell xps 9310 WHITE-xps9310
Processor 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-1165G7 @ 2.80GHz 2.80 GHz
Installed RAM 32.0 GB (31.7 GB usable)
Device ID 0CB24B28-9AA8-466A-B6CC-8DA27017D86F
Product ID 00330-53959-87727-AAOEM
System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Pen and touch Pen and touch support with 10 touch points