Thanks for putting this out, because I was tempted to go for the full Dark Justiciar ending, but since I know what I'll miss, I can make sure she spares her parents in the cloister now.
“In another life, this may have not been a parting. It may have been the start of something…” And what shadowheart don’t know is that she means another playthrough
I always love that theme and I wanted to put it in a BG3 video for the longest time 😅, and I think this is the perfect video for it because DJ Shadowheart's romance is so bittersweet, just like the song. also, by the way it's not an exclusive yennefer theme, I believe they also played it during Kierra and Triss' romance moments
Indeed, the epilogue shows that she's a genuinely good person at heart even with Shar's involvement, by turning her into a dark justiciar we basically just locked that sweet side of her for good 🥲
As you can see, she has a type, so this gnome is probably just being her o*r*g*y partner (because Sharrans love doing this for their god), so she's not romantically in love with him.
Indeed! it's my favorite romance theme for the longest time, then I heard BG3 Sharess' Caress romance theme (the one you heard first in this video), now I love both equally ❤️
Ex with Benefits and Dedicating herself to Shar just isn't Shadowheart. Also: Could you show us what happens if we kill the Nighsong but save her parents and vice versa?
@@KollbjornYT Killing Nightsong activates something called "parent points," which is mechanically the same as "Nightsong points," which decide whether she'll spare or kill the Nightsong, if left to make her own choice. Just look up "Shadowheart parent points" if you want the specifics on how & where to trigger them. You lose out on the Act III romance scene that way, but I find it a superior narrative. YMMV.
Yes, that act 1 sass from her is just because she didn't trust you enough and she still has a strong faith with Shar, overtime we'll see her true nature that she is a genuine good person at heart, always turn her into a selunite no matter what because she deserves happiness ❤ Also, about that nightsong & parent in epilogue, I don't think it changed much just like what charlesboots said, so I'm sorry that I can't make a video about it, maybe it's still worth it back then when the Baldur's Gate 3 hype is still in the air, but nowadays not as much people still interested BG3 anymore 😢 as they're moving on to the next big thing, I still plan on making a few more Shadowheart videos in the coming days though 👍🏻
Is that an intentional pun? because if so, 'Yes, I do' see what you did there... I'm glad you recognize it, it's one of the reason what makes Witcher 3 so special to me, the romance theme is so memorable
Like what benefit is there to being a Shar worshiper? What an insanely hollow existence, and for what? There are other dieties who give power and gifts, so why pick one that makes you lead such a terrible life?
ikr! it's the worst thing that could've happened to someone like Shadowheart, she didn't have any choice because she's still a child back then, I feel bad just by imagining her spending her entire childhood in shadows, away from the world
Man i wish you tell me where you get those cosmetics mods. I dont see them in N*xus. You once mentioned about getting copyrights because of videos? Well funny thing is that i never got them for videos but I had for the music. and the funny thing is, that its not even the REAL OWNERS who claim copyright but those who made covers of the songs; claiming it as their own illegally.
Yeah, music way more riskier than video in this aspect, it still baffles me that they had the audacity to activate a copyright claim for the song they covered, for instance Borislav Slavov didn't copyright claim any of his work with Larian studios, and someone who did a cover for his music then proceed to activate a copyright for it, they basically claiming that the music was made by them Also by the way the mod I used in this video is from the scantily camp outfit mod
Unpopular opinion: I find her romance on the Sharran path to be better written in terms of consistency, pacing, and the chemistry of a forbidden relationship it brings. Sharran Shart makes it clear that what you share will never be love, and you're not an exclusive couple, so you know where you stand and keep your expectations low. The problem is that, aside from a handful of interactions, her behavior often stays the same, regardless of which path she follows, which hurts the Selunite path significantly. For instance, at some point she confesses that she wants to be with the MC 'now and always' and share everything that lies ahead with him. Yet later on, under certain circumstances, she mocks you for ever thinking that she wanted something loyal or to have a swan (known for mating for life). Before the patch introducing the epilogue, you basically had to insist on staying together after the final battle, lmao. The whole thing with Halsin and the drow twins doesn't make much sense either, since the idea of casual seggs and o*gies aligns with Shar's doctrine and what she was taught at the cloister, where she was literally trained to be a honey pot and endured the darkest times of her life. So why would she re-embrace who she was before? Didn't she clearly state that she wants to stay as far away from Shar as possible? The Selunite romance made me feel like I was being gaslighted into a relationship, as if I were a tool to achieve her own goals, and once used still nice to keep but no longer necessarily needed and easily replacable.
the swan's speech happens after you betray her, the condition for her to say this is for her to be betrayed, no matter how incoherent it is, that's what the player deserved She never forces the player to be with her, nor is she confident that he deserves it, that's why she accepts almost anything they propose, she herself will never ask to open the relationship, it is the player who seeks to do this As with the drow, it is the player who seeks and the epilogue makes it very clear, with or without the parents shadowheart will maintain the relationship with the player and only shows that he wants the player
@@anonimos5533 Aren't you a guy who claimed that the letter on the tomb in the Lower City wasn't from her, even though she recognized her own handwriting? I'm well aware that it takes a huge amount of copium, interpreting her interactions in the most favorable way for you or creating your own headcannons in order to find sharts romance compelling, but let's keep it sane, please. The fact that she never brings certain things up herself doesn’t mean she doesn’t think that way regardless of your choices. Shart is all about mysteries and secrets, no? You’d never know about her interest in Halsin if you never allowed him into your party, but does that stop her from dreaming about him? She doesn't need any encouragement to show affection towards him, and despite all her insecurity about your fragile bond and feeling inadequate, she's more than willing to risk it all just to sleep with him, disregarding how it might affect the MC's feelings towards her and crossing the very boundaries she set up herself. I don't quite understand how that aligns with the idea that she's doing it for your sake, especially considering that you get a malus to her approval if you refuse. It’s crazy how her entire romance revolves around gaining her trust and pulling her away from the goddess of deception, yet at times, she's the one who makes you feel like you’ve been deceived. I'm delivering raw facts from the game, while you seem to be trying to make excuses for Shadowheart's actions to justify them and fit your own desires. It's pointless to seek deeper meanings in these interactions, since, as I stated before, they are exactly the same for both of these completely divergent paths.
@@Sp4wN2 "The fact that she never brings certain things up herself doesn’t mean she doesn’t think that way regardless of your choices." What is the NPC supposed to say "Look I enjoy the big old Arnold Schwarzenegger type of muscly guys/girls" I'm sure the playerbase would be pleased with that, the vast majority of the players that are still active on the reddit of this game view worship shar and are threatened by halsin's NPC once they flirt in act 2 and murder hobo him as they are afraid of losing their coded girlfriend.
@@Sp4wN2 Dude, don't you play the game? the letter on the tomb is not hers, she does not react to the letter, the dialogue about calligraphy is in the graffiti on the wall of jaheira's house She doesn't ruin the relationship at any point, she talks about sexual fantasy if you say it's okay to share everything comes from the player's initiative, not from shadowheart Disapproval for the brothel is -1, this means literally nothing, have you forgotten that you gained +5 approval just by kissing Shadowheart on the first date? you are too insecure, of the 8 dialogues that shadowheart has with helsin there are only 2 light flirtations and no big deal, helsin asking to participate in swimming is also no big deal, and he doesn't even have reactivity, shadowheart even calls astarion to compete in swimming shadowheart doesn't even mention helsin if the player doesn't accept helsin's proposal I'm not making anything up, everything I said is how it happens in the game
@@anonimos5533 I didn't remember the graveyard encounter precisely; this is how you wrote it, so I didn't even bother replying to you because of how ridiculous it was. I'm not insecure; I'm just trying to point out how poor the writing is. If I feel like having a hot goth fu*ktoy girlfriend, I'll gladly take the DJ route. If I'm interested in something more serious and emotionally deeper this time around, the Selunite path appears as an obvious choice for that. Yet, the most notable changes between them are the color of her hair and the very last scene in the game. Damn, even her kissing animations barely differ from each other on both paths. Now let's compare how much actual work was put into diverging the spawn/AA ones. You seem like an insecure one there, trying to rationalize or simply deny the facts you're clearly not comfortable with: any romantic involvement she had in the past or has in the present with anyone besides you, and even datamining for how much of an actual impact on her approval certain interactions have to make sure it's not a 'big deal'. If she wants to climb mt. Halsin, go for it; just make it happen with a little dialogue beforehand to talk things through (just like the conversation you have to have if you want to b*ng him yourself), maintaining mutual respect and taking my consent into consideration. But she treats you in a way that she herself didn't want to be treated, given that any previous flings with other companions made her genuinely worried that 'your affections have drifted elsewhere'. Nobody wants to feel like a third wheel, whether in an open, polyamorous, let alone monogamous relationship. Inb4 blah blah, she never asks you directly to open the relationship. So what? There's more than enough evidence she's into that and will enthusiastically accept your offer if you ask for it yourself. Have you forgotten that you won’t be able to kiss her on the first date if you miss your insight check? Her whole romance feels like a marathon of insight checks, many of which you seem to be failing on purpose. She doesn't tell you directly that she loves you even once thorought entire campaign either, but I don't think you consider the thought that she doesn't, just because of that. You're delusional. As for the epilogue, I pointed out that I'm talking exclusively about what it was like before patch 6, they warmed things up a little since then. (of course they did, it was a letdown). I have no idea where you got the impression of her as a fully devoted partner. We've already have our future plans discussed and then she was something like 'So, yeah, I’m going to find a cottage for me and my parents. If you ultimately want to join us, I’ll make myself easy to find.' Sounds more like: 'You can come with us, but if not, I'm perfectly fine on my own anyway'. Yeah, I guess we must have played very different games.
ok so in my play shadowheart turned away from her gods so then what?? do she suddenly go back to that psyhco of a god again later in the game or what?? patch 6 most horrible bugs i ever seen in a aaa game so far(why not patch7 u ask?? wont launch after ui used a save game from nexus mods) Thanks 4 video--Who doesent love the characters+shadowheart a bit more even!!! tihi hi hi !! LOL
If she forsakes Shar, she becomes an outcast and (an assassination target) of the Sharrans. She doesn’t have any option to go back after that, which is a good thing imo
Shar is pretty good a promoting her sister, everytime I see DJ shart stuff I think “wow another reason to go selunite”
She talks about how her being with you hurts and she wishes she could. 🤕
Meanwhile Selunite just 🥰 my love
DJ 𝘴𝘩𝘢𝘳𝘵 stuff???
@@phoenixtilley751 Dark Justiciar
@@phoenixtilley751 community nickname for shadowheart, it _is_ kinda funny when you see it for the first time ngl
Thanks for putting this out, because I was tempted to go for the full Dark Justiciar ending, but since I know what I'll miss, I can make sure she spares her parents in the cloister now.
I never have the heart to let her do it or allow Astarion to ascend.
You're welcome ❤
“In another life, this may have not been a parting. It may have been the start of something…”
And what shadowheart don’t know is that she means another playthrough
haha yeah 😅
"But we made our choices, and have to live with what we have - and what we lost"
Shart calling out the player there
Nahh putting Yennefer's theme here got me feelin some type of way 😭
I always love that theme and I wanted to put it in a BG3 video for the longest time 😅, and I think this is the perfect video for it because DJ Shadowheart's romance is so bittersweet, just like the song.
also, by the way it's not an exclusive yennefer theme, I believe they also played it during Kierra and Triss' romance moments
no wonder I find the music very nostalgic
Sad and heartbreaking to put her on this path. Brainwashed and unable to do what wants and be with who she loves.
Indeed, the epilogue shows that she's a genuinely good person at heart even with Shar's involvement, by turning her into a dark justiciar we basically just locked that sweet side of her for good 🥲
@@DragonsDream Agreed it's so sad what happens to Shadowheart, I hate Shar so much.
You and me both my friend, worst goddess ever
I can't believe Shadowheart has a gnome lover in the past 🤢
@@frandovian Found Astarion's UA-cam account.
@@charlesboots6508 best comment this 🤣
As you can see, she has a type, so this gnome is probably just being her o*r*g*y partner (because Sharrans love doing this for their god), so she's not romantically in love with him.
Imagine a Gnome going for someone 3x taller than them 🤮
On that topic, we need short romancable characters
Yeah she was pretty much coerced into all sorts of actions at the cloister, especially being brainwashed and branded with a curse.
Tav about DJ Shadowheart: You turned her against me!
DM: you have done that yourself.
Nothing more sweet than the Witcher 3 Romance music
Indeed! it's my favorite romance theme for the longest time, then I heard BG3 Sharess' Caress romance theme (the one you heard first in this video), now I love both equally ❤️
Ex with Benefits and Dedicating herself to Shar just isn't Shadowheart.
Also: Could you show us what happens if we kill the Nighsong but save her parents and vice versa?
@@KollbjornYT Killing Nightsong activates something called "parent points," which is mechanically the same as "Nightsong points," which decide whether she'll spare or kill the Nightsong, if left to make her own choice. Just look up "Shadowheart parent points" if you want the specifics on how & where to trigger them.
You lose out on the Act III romance scene that way, but I find it a superior narrative. YMMV.
@@charlesboots6508 That doesn't answer my question though
@@KollbjornYT It gives you the same epilogue as if she spared Nightsong, just with dark hair.
@@charlesboots6508 Okay, thanks
Yes, that act 1 sass from her is just because she didn't trust you enough and she still has a strong faith with Shar, overtime we'll see her true nature that she is a genuine good person at heart, always turn her into a selunite no matter what because she deserves happiness ❤
Also, about that nightsong & parent in epilogue, I don't think it changed much just like what charlesboots said, so I'm sorry that I can't make a video about it, maybe it's still worth it back then when the Baldur's Gate 3 hype is still in the air, but nowadays not as much people still interested BG3 anymore 😢 as they're moving on to the next big thing, I still plan on making a few more Shadowheart videos in the coming days though 👍🏻
Witcher music at reunion party seems perfect ❤
I'm glad you like it, I was afraid some people might complain because I add a music from another game outside of Larian & old BG games to my video 😅
Owlbear stealing the show
😮 may I ask how you dressed Shadowheart in modded clothes for the reunion party?
I use a script extender
0:51 there need to be like 30 overlapping vineboom sound effects edited in here.
i recognise that theme anywhere...yes i do
Is that an intentional pun? because if so, 'Yes, I do' see what you did there...
I'm glad you recognize it, it's one of the reason what makes Witcher 3 so special to me, the romance theme is so memorable
What mod are you using for your clothing? It looks so nice.
How did you talk to the gnome guy? The confrontation with Viconia keeps triggering before I can get over there
Like what benefit is there to being a Shar worshiper? What an insanely hollow existence, and for what? There are other dieties who give power and gifts, so why pick one that makes you lead such a terrible life?
ikr! it's the worst thing that could've happened to someone like Shadowheart, she didn't have any choice because she's still a child back then, I feel bad just by imagining her spending her entire childhood in shadows, away from the world
Outfit mod? Please?
It's from the scantily camp outfit mod
What mods do you have here? I want my shart to look like that!
What outfit mods do you use?
Man i wish you tell me where you get those cosmetics mods. I dont see them in N*xus.
You once mentioned about getting copyrights because of videos? Well funny thing is that i never got them for videos but I had for the music. and the funny thing is, that its not even the REAL OWNERS who claim copyright but those who made covers of the songs; claiming it as their own illegally.
Yeah, music way more riskier than video in this aspect, it still baffles me that they had the audacity to activate a copyright claim for the song they covered, for instance Borislav Slavov didn't copyright claim any of his work with Larian studios, and someone who did a cover for his music then proceed to activate a copyright for it, they basically claiming that the music was made by them
Also by the way the mod I used in this video is from the scantily camp outfit mod
@@DragonsDream You should write the mod down in your descriptions so we can stop asking in the comments lol
@@DragonsDream scantly camp? Is it on N*xus?
Unpopular opinion:
I find her romance on the Sharran path to be better written in terms of consistency, pacing, and the chemistry of a forbidden relationship it brings.
Sharran Shart makes it clear that what you share will never be love, and you're not an exclusive couple, so you know where you stand and keep your expectations low.
The problem is that, aside from a handful of interactions, her behavior often stays the same, regardless of which path she follows, which hurts the Selunite path significantly.
For instance, at some point she confesses that she wants to be with the MC 'now and always' and share everything that lies ahead with him. Yet later on, under certain circumstances, she mocks you for ever thinking that she wanted something loyal or to have a swan (known for mating for life). Before the patch introducing the epilogue, you basically had to insist on staying together after the final battle, lmao.
The whole thing with Halsin and the drow twins doesn't make much sense either, since the idea of casual seggs and o*gies aligns with Shar's doctrine and what she was taught at the cloister, where she was literally trained to be a honey pot and endured the darkest times of her life. So why would she re-embrace who she was before? Didn't she clearly state that she wants to stay as far away from Shar as possible?
The Selunite romance made me feel like I was being gaslighted into a relationship, as if I were a tool to achieve her own goals, and once used still nice to keep but no longer necessarily needed and easily replacable.
the swan's speech happens after you betray her, the condition for her to say this is for her to be betrayed, no matter how incoherent it is, that's what the player deserved
She never forces the player to be with her, nor is she confident that he deserves it, that's why she accepts almost anything they propose, she herself will never ask to open the relationship, it is the player who seeks to do this
As with the drow, it is the player who seeks
and the epilogue makes it very clear, with or without the parents shadowheart will maintain the relationship with the player and only shows that he wants the player
@@anonimos5533 Aren't you a guy who claimed that the letter on the tomb in the Lower City wasn't from her, even though she recognized her own handwriting? I'm well aware that it takes a huge amount of copium, interpreting her interactions in the most favorable way for you or creating your own headcannons in order to find sharts romance compelling, but let's keep it sane, please.
The fact that she never brings certain things up herself doesn’t mean she doesn’t think that way regardless of your choices. Shart is all about mysteries and secrets, no? You’d never know about her interest in Halsin if you never allowed him into your party, but does that stop her from dreaming about him? She doesn't need any encouragement to show affection towards him, and despite all her insecurity about your fragile bond and feeling inadequate, she's more than willing to risk it all just to sleep with him, disregarding how it might affect the MC's feelings towards her and crossing the very boundaries she set up herself. I don't quite understand how that aligns with the idea that she's doing it for your sake, especially considering that you get a malus to her approval if you refuse.
It’s crazy how her entire romance revolves around gaining her trust and pulling her away from the goddess of deception, yet at times, she's the one who makes you feel like you’ve been deceived.
I'm delivering raw facts from the game, while you seem to be trying to make excuses for Shadowheart's actions to justify them and fit your own desires. It's pointless to seek deeper meanings in these interactions, since, as I stated before, they are exactly the same for both of these completely divergent paths.
@@Sp4wN2 "The fact that she never brings certain things up herself doesn’t mean she doesn’t think that way regardless of your choices." What is the NPC supposed to say "Look I enjoy the big old Arnold Schwarzenegger type of muscly guys/girls" I'm sure the playerbase would be pleased with that, the vast majority of the players that are still active on the reddit of this game view worship shar and are threatened by halsin's NPC once they flirt in act 2 and murder hobo him as they are afraid of losing their coded girlfriend.
@@Sp4wN2 Dude, don't you play the game? the letter on the tomb is not hers, she does not react to the letter, the dialogue about calligraphy is in the graffiti on the wall of jaheira's house She doesn't ruin the relationship at any point, she talks about sexual fantasy if you say it's okay to share
everything comes from the player's initiative, not from shadowheart Disapproval for the brothel is -1, this means literally nothing, have you forgotten that you gained +5 approval just by kissing Shadowheart on the first date?
you are too insecure, of the 8 dialogues that shadowheart has with helsin there are only 2 light flirtations and no big deal, helsin asking to participate in swimming is also no big deal, and he doesn't even have reactivity, shadowheart even calls astarion to compete in swimming shadowheart doesn't even mention helsin if the player doesn't accept helsin's proposal
I'm not making anything up, everything I said is how it happens in the game
@@anonimos5533 I didn't remember the graveyard encounter precisely; this is how you wrote it, so I didn't even bother replying to you because of how ridiculous it was.
I'm not insecure; I'm just trying to point out how poor the writing is. If I feel like having a hot goth fu*ktoy girlfriend, I'll gladly take the DJ route. If I'm interested in something more serious and emotionally deeper this time around, the Selunite path appears as an obvious choice for that. Yet, the most notable changes between them are the color of her hair and the very last scene in the game. Damn, even her kissing animations barely differ from each other on both paths. Now let's compare how much actual work was put into diverging the spawn/AA ones.
You seem like an insecure one there, trying to rationalize or simply deny the facts you're clearly not comfortable with: any romantic involvement she had in the past or has in the present with anyone besides you, and even datamining for how much of an actual impact on her approval certain interactions have to make sure it's not a 'big deal'. If she wants to climb mt. Halsin, go for it; just make it happen with a little dialogue beforehand to talk things through (just like the conversation you have to have if you want to b*ng him yourself), maintaining mutual respect and taking my consent into consideration. But she treats you in a way that she herself didn't want to be treated, given that any previous flings with other companions made her genuinely worried that 'your affections have drifted elsewhere'. Nobody wants to feel like a third wheel, whether in an open, polyamorous, let alone monogamous relationship.
Inb4 blah blah, she never asks you directly to open the relationship. So what? There's more than enough evidence she's into that and will enthusiastically accept your offer if you ask for it yourself. Have you forgotten that you won’t be able to kiss her on the first date if you miss your insight check? Her whole romance feels like a marathon of insight checks, many of which you seem to be failing on purpose. She doesn't tell you directly that she loves you even once thorought entire campaign either, but I don't think you consider the thought that she doesn't, just because of that. You're delusional.
As for the epilogue, I pointed out that I'm talking exclusively about what it was like before patch 6, they warmed things up a little since then. (of course they did, it was a letdown). I have no idea where you got the impression of her as a fully devoted partner. We've already have our future plans discussed and then she was something like 'So, yeah, I’m going to find a cottage for me and my parents. If you ultimately want to join us, I’ll make myself easy to find.' Sounds more like: 'You can come with us, but if not, I'm perfectly fine on my own anyway'.
Yeah, I guess we must have played very different games.
I made an origin ending Gale dating shadowheart but deciding to become a god in the end, what a bad ending I don't recommend
I haven't tried this yet, what happened here by the way? can't you just ascend her to godhood too?
@@DragonsDream It's all too bad, Gale can't do anything for her
@@anonimos5533 how so? if he can ascend Karlach, why not Shadowheart?
@@DragonsDream I was playing gale
@@anonimos5533 I know, so origin Gale can't ascend his love partner? that's too sad 😢
0:51 each to their own I guess xD
knowing he fucked her, she lost all points she had with me. Shes for the streets.
guess im gonna have to romance karlach like the other weirdos
Necesito jugar este juego me recuerda mucho a mass effect en algunas aspectos.
Fortunately you only have to put up with this shit for the first few hours or so.
ok so in my play shadowheart turned away from her gods so then what?? do she suddenly go back to that psyhco of a god again later in the game or what??
patch 6 most horrible bugs i ever seen in a aaa game so far(why not patch7 u ask?? wont launch after ui used a save game from nexus mods)
Thanks 4 video--Who doesent love the characters+shadowheart a bit more even!!! tihi hi hi !! LOL
If she forsakes Shar, she becomes an outcast and (an assassination target) of the Sharrans. She doesn’t have any option to go back after that, which is a good thing imo
@@luv4tajhanb ok thanks