We Test the 2021 Honda CRF450R!
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2020
- Presented by OGIO Powersports
In addition to the new Honda being the most asked about bike for 2021, admittedly, it is the bike we have been the most eager to get our hands on. The 2020 machine was dynamic in both brute power and quick cornering, however, it’s anxious character also hampered its results in our 2020 450 Shootout. High-speed stability was not the red machine’s strong point and a lack of confidence in the machine from our test riders relegated it behind the more planted Yamaha and Kawasaki bikes.
An all-new chassis and significant refinements to the engine and suspension had us hoping the Honda’s performance would match our eager anticipation. Did it live up to the hype? Well, yes and no. The 2021 Honda is certainly a calmer version of the 2020 when it comes to handling. The bike is more planted and less nervous at speed than last year‘s model. The new frame is narrower and lighter than last year, adding to the Honda’s already quick and nimble handling traits. Over 3 pounds lighter for the whole bike as a matter fact - and you can feel it on the track. The Honda is every bit as agile and responsive as I had hoped for. The bike is quick to react to rider input, easy to change directions on, and loves to carve the corners. Likely, the best cornering bike in the class. However, the 2021 model is sensitive to bike set up and it took some time to find a good balance front to back. The bike naturally carries a front-end bias, which contributes to its excellent cornering but also causes the bike to pitch forward and put significant weight on the front wheel under heavy deceleration. In an effort to balance the bike we stiffened the compression clickers on the forks two clicks, we added a few clicks of rebound dampening in the shock to hold the rear end down, and we drop the forks down in the clamps about 3 mm to shift some of the weight towards the rear of the bike.
This certainly helped create a better foundation under heavy braking without hampering the excellent cornering. As we have stated, the Honda's cornering mannerisms are already amazing, and we had room to play with. In some ways, these adjustments actually helped the cornering because while the Honda loves to carve tight inside ruts, in the longer, more drawn out sweeping turns the Honda had a tendency to over-steer. By transferring more weight to the rear of the bike the cornering character was calmed allowing the bike to carve a smoother arch in the sweeping turns.
How about the motor? We were happy to hear that the Honda engineers did not alter the character of last year’s motor much. Most of the focus was aimed at ECU settings trying to deliver a smoother, more broad power delivery which would be easier to ride and more usable than last year. We believe they succeeded. While the Honda is a little smoother down low and easier to manage, the delivery is fast and downright fun. The bike hits hard down low and is super fun to ride. There are three map settings standard, smooth, and more aggressive, with pretty distinct character differences, however all three are very effective in their own right. The standard map is the most effective at putting down long, broad, usable power where map two is too mellow down low down low. Map three, meanwhile, hits hard down low but revs out too quickly. Overall, the delivery is exciting, however, on the very low end, the ECU settings are not clean and run a little on the rich side. There is a small hiccup at the initial throttle turn that causes a momentary disconnect between your right hand and the rear wheel. It is minor but can use some attention.
As was the case last year, the Honda’s ergonomics are likely best in class. The rider triangle, the relation between the seat, handlebars and footpegs is comfortable, easy to move around on, and provides a fantastic cockpit to take advantage of the Honda’s agile handling. Fit and finish are excellent. We love the feel and easy pull of the new clutch and the brakes are extremely strong yet progressive.
Is the 2021 CRF450R better than the 2020 version? Yes! Is it enough to improve it’s finishing position in our upcoming Shootout? We will find out soon. - Спорт
Love this format, both ride the bike and then go over everything together and compare notes for us to hear. This is how normal weekend warriors do it over a couple pops lol. Great work as always.
SML, you guys are great! Not even or ever have been in the market for a 450, but the content is great. Foster taking point and the flow is just watchable. Thanks.
Backyard nailed it with the backgrounds, looks 👌💯
I can't even ride mx anymore but I'm such a DORK I want to get a new bike just so I can play with all the mapping settings.
Funny how honest these guy are compared to others. This bike is good but not as good as I was expecting from all the hype.
Matthew Brown FE literally has a pipe and other stuff for looks, nothing special
Nick I could buy a Suzuki and it can do the same job except hit higher top speed
Chazz Gonzalez but why would anybody want to buy a Suzuki?
Joe Cooper exactly my point, just like why anybody would buy a Honda
Nick the difference is a Suzuki will do the same job as a bike that costs $3000 more
The attention to detail these riders have is amazing
Man I can't wait to get my hands on one of these bad honeys 🙌🏼
Old guys rule. Sounds like a winner. Good motor, ergonomics, suspension, wheels, colour, dealerships.
This bike it's absolutely awesome. My next bike, probably a next year.✊🏻
The Brembo front brakes on the KTM Factory Edition are Porsche like!!! Incredible
Man this music has a prince Purple Rain vibe to it!! Love it🤗..ohh by the way nice bike to lol
Thanks for not looking stupid with the social distance stuff on camera.
Does staying safe look stupid to you? Why don’t you keep that bs to yourself.😘
@@Edubbcamaraman Right. He gon look real stupid talkin all that shit and then catching coronavirus.
@@Edubbcamaraman Or maybe he can express his opinion without the mask Nazis chiming in.
All the comments, I want a new bike I want a new bike. I still place and win races on my 07 and look at videos of guys going out on 10+ yr old bikes smoking people. Twist the thing on the right and save some money.
Lol. Yeah okay bud. If you’re that fast on 14 year old technology, image how fast you’d be with EFI better suspension better chassis, stronger motors and the list goes on. These statements. Make me lol.
pumped lets gooo
From my impression whoever has a 2020 CRF450RWE or R, hold onto it because Honda is per the usual going to have big fine tuning and clean up from the initial year. I think 2022/23 will be the ticket on this new chassis
Yep only the sheep will buy it. Personally I prefer the look of the 2020 and if I was about to buy a Honda right now I’d be going for the 2020 not the 21.
Don’t you think they have already wormed all this crap out? The Mxgp boys have been on this bike for a while don’t think they have it sorted?
@@benfairhall5331 Most all mfg.'s use racers as the test ground. Problem is that most racers don't represent what works best for the mass market. People want bikes that they see fast guys ride, but the set ups that top tier riders use would never work for the majority. That said Honda has a history with arguably the most widely capable chassis. Most anyone you throw on a Honda will be able to ride it well, its kind of a bike for all where a KTM is really more suited to a more experienced rider, from ergos to design. That said Honda through there history has always made large improvements from feedback from the first year to the next. Take a look at the new CRF250R that came out in 2018. 2018-19 was a huge change, 19-20 fine tuned with the 2020 being the most widely approved version. The 2020 CRF450R, particularly the CRF450RWE was one of the only bikes I can recall from recent model years that ever person that rode it came off very impressed. That was also the last year of the 4 model year cycle Honda ran. Again just my opinion from riding and observations over the years, but that's how I see it...
You guys look like you got stood up at the high school prom... You expected more. Thanks for the honesty
It would have been good for you to open the side panel and show the airfilter for instance.
The all red looks sick
mine is red frame, red entire engine, red seat, red rim, red swing arm, red handle bar and grips and even a red tire,the only not red of mine is my eyes
Callback to '88?
(Got an '88 500)
Whats with the gawdy looking weld on the inside of the muffler? 6:30
Great move with the juice clutch though... I think I did a video on one of those couple years ago.......hmmmm....hahaha
I was thinking that you said you like the map 3 better in the other video but now you are saying map 1. Is it because of the type of track, or did i miss understand the other video?
really looking forward to how this bike will stack against the kx450 in comparison
one of the key features of 2021 CRF450R is the very slim perimeter frame, lighter and more stronger, higher torque and horsepower
KTM Factory Edition!!!! Ready to Win !!!
I have a 04 . Doesnt this model have the same and have the exact same horsepower ?
What kind of chairs are they sitting on?
Looks like there isn't enough hold up in the front forks making it twitchy. Fixed with installing Ohlins TTX internals, your welcome. 👍
Schwifty Or just have those forks built
I wish they could their bike as light as the 08 450😭 Still a hot bike 🥵🤩
Or the '09 they brought in efi then and it weighed less than the carbed '08!!!
Id like to see them get it to just over 200lbs, but they can't.
@@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443 you'd think all the manufacturers would be trying to get to the AMA 220 pound weight limit like ktm has there's no reason not to.
Been sold since first news of this bike boi
ride a KTM Factory Edition Sublime!!!!
The handlebar looks a little bit high placed, it's not 100% level, It rises a bit up, I would change it for better control but anyways thats rider specifics setups
It's cool I guess for a Honda .
Donn ain’t having it today
Clean the lens! It wouldn't be noticeable, except that it is right on Pat's face. I kept blinking.... ha
A CR500af conversion carries the front wheel in all gears. We could see you had to pull on the bars everytime you wanted to lift the front wheel...
A steelie will too, well into 4th if you twist the loud handle hard enough and you have traction.
Allthough Id like to try an AF conversion..
Man thats a nice ktm450
Jay Smokey because its a KTM thats why so
I guess every bike brand is a ktm now lol makes no sense
Motor ?? Engine !!
Theres talk out there tht Dungey is comin out of Retirement & goin 2 Race a Honda. Wht are u all hearing Swapmoto Donn M
No he is not. He’s not even training. He’s done a couple of appearances that’s it.
Well it's kinda funny people tht is CONNECTED MORE THAN YOU All. 4 EXAMPLE WERE DO YOU ALL WORK EXACTLEY‼ & NO'S More thn me is talkin about it. So Like I Said I Was Askin Someone Tht Is Connected & Has Ben 4 Many Years. WHAT HE HAS HERD. I DIDNT SAY HAVE ANY OF U TROLLS‼ THAT NOTHING BETTER 2 DO IN LIFE BUT READ OTHERS COMMENTS HERD IF DUNGEY IS GOIN 2 RACE. THTS NOT WHAT I SAID
@@johnthomas6614 bro what!?!?
He wouldn’t even be able to keep the pace anymore he only won bc villipoto retired also
Hey I need help I’m looking to buy a new bike and I’m in between the 2020 YZ450F, 2021 kx450f, and 2021 crf450f so if you guys could help me it would be a major help
All great bikes! Watch some of the shootouts coming out soon!
Rmz450
I’ve had all brands and raced A class. Yamaha motor and valves last way longer than other brands. My sons 2016 Yamaha 250f has over 150 hours and still would start 1st or 2nd kick. Valves were still in speck and never shimmed. We recently tore it down to rebuild it.
Get a 250 two stroke
Atc250r (2nd or 3rd gen)
I have a 19 Crf450, always complaining about how nuts the front is. Wish I would of found these guys before I bought it. I will never buy another Honda.
Please don't speed the riding segments up. I hate that.
Good spot!! They sped it up to look like Patty was going faster. Then they did a slow mo shot of Donny, dogging it through the right hand corner to hide his lack of cornering skills. Fake news, everywhere you go!!!
In two years they'll go back to the dual exhaust system again....honda, you jerk!
Suzuki Wins the shootout this year!!!!!!
Eminiscalperpro 100%
Eminiscalperpro lmao
Nope. They changed the graphics again. Now you won’t even know it’s a Suzuki. Kinda like riding a moped, but you put a wing on it!
Looks like a red KTM. KTM got some competition coming in MX world but they own the off-road market.
the reddish world MX GP bike that looks like CRF is the GasGas, GasGas is also a KTM all over
Honda is also slowly invading the Enduro, Dakar Rally and ISDE globally with their CRF-X, CRF-Rally and CRF-RX, they have also the XR450X in Europe
originally Honda is really RED during 70s CR MX bike, even the rims, engine and swing arm is RED
The 2021 crf450 and the 2021 gas gas MC450 look very identical
Show us what's good on the bike how it reacts on the track. Don't just tell us what's good.
Looks more like a Ktm ever year 😂 except for the frame! 🧐
Jason Becker I didn’t know steel frames looked like aluminum
Jason Becker you mine as well just delete the comment if ur just gonna edit it to add in the frame part AFTER I said sumthin bout it only same thing bout them is the displacement of the engine and it’s on 2 wheels
slimmer perimeter aluminum frame and much lighter
David pelkey no shit! But yea they are looking more like ktm or gas gas every year 🥴
Jason Becker but how?
Honda over Hyped
Sterile means yet another boring 450 4puke. Just needs a 500cc two stroke motor in the engine cradle. Ultimate bike. Come on Man... Donn
How about it gets a little modernised as well? Maybe something like the old ATAC system or something similar to KIPS or the YPVS? Just keep it with a steel sleeve for easy rebuilds.
4:33, say what?
Swap = negative nanny lol
Donn yea! F*** Covid 19 you and Pat great test. Much better than Motocross Action total toss.
Look out! You have a slim chance of possibly contracting a disease they you will allmost certainly survive!
@@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443 Hi i got covid on 20th of December before anyone knew what it was, as my Dr couldn't understand how my lungs where so congested. My lungs are now only getting back to normal after 8 months of cycling.
9,599 + Tax + Markup =
11500
Only paid '$2,500 for a pristine '96 CR500, and $800 for a roached '88 that is getting the full resto treatment. Put $550 into the suspension on the '96, and $200 into the brakes, and its just as competitive as anything out there. And for less than $4k.
when your jumping alligators 🐊 in the Florida everglades you want total control!!! KTM Factory Edition!!!!!
Bike looks a little jumpy, smh.
sick bike !!!!! shitty music .......cheers boys
Bike is sick but it’s looks like a KTM
Diff frame diff plastics diff motor setup diff wheels how does it look like a ktm? I want sum of what ur smoking shit must be good
Same motor and suspension, can't really call it all new imo.
did you watch the right video?
Sounds like a ktm 450 fe clone
Ktm still better
Agreed
We shall see!!!
Suzuki beats both
Ktm motors don’t last as long. Plus look how much a crank cost for Ktm over other brands oem.
mxr ktms are money pits to be honest lol