What to play when the song doesn't have guitar parts
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- Опубліковано 4 чер 2024
- In this video Bradford talks through three strategies you can use when the song doesn't have pre-recorded guitar parts. This is also really helpful if you're trying to come up with alternate parts or writing a new song.
See the 'Behold' video where Bradford puts this all into practice: • Behold - Phil Wickham ...
Table of contents:
00:00 - Guitarring with Bradford
01:03 - Let's start with a bonus tip: swells
01:10 - Tip 1 - Find the melody and replicate it
01:44 - Tip 2 - Find the 1 (meaning the root note of the song/chord)
04:33 - Tip 3 - Play chords (but not like an acoustic player)
09:07 - Conclusion
09:14 - Brian's Bonus Tip
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My favorite go to is power chording when there isnt usually a guitar. Youd be surprised how much it can add to the mix😅
Man, over the past 4ish years of being the only electric guitar player I've had to accidentally learn all of this myself just from not knowing what to do a lot of the times. This is a great video and I wish I had it years ago lol
Same brother.
Same!!!!!
Here's to learning on the fly😅
I'm a HUGE proponent of CAGED for this reason. I'll learn to voice the progression 3 different ways to find where it will sit in a band context. Also using 4 chords (1st-4th-5th with a high 3rd) sounds amazing. Power chords can be embellished with a high 2 (1-5-2) which is a bit of a stretch but well worth it. Also, find those high 11th's on those minor chords and learn to sus2 every major chord shape (without capos) - it's worth the time to learn. Trust me, 20 years of worship on electric and I'm still re-voicing and extending my chords to fit.
Nice! I typically take the same approach. Gives nice opportunities for voice leading and counterpoint. I also like to use funk-adjacent genres as an influence to pull back and be more percussive if necessary to avoid stepping on the keys.
@MyguitarteacherCa I cannot recommend your approach enough. It's so important especially when you play in a big band with keys, horns, bass, vocals etc so you can stay out of everyone's way and still have your own sonic space
This might be one of the most useful guitar playing videos I've ever seen on YT...
This is literally the only and definitely “worship” tutorial everybody needs to play worship music ever😅
Best advice I've ever gotten, music is made in the notes you don't play.....
Deep stuff right there
You just made me feel a lot better. So many times while playing In worship I find myself doing several of these things. Sure helps to know that players of higher caliber than myself are doing these things also.
You are in good company 😂
Great to have this for all the old Christmas hymns churches will be playing this week
4:45 Wow... love that sound... starts with snarl, ends with long deep clear smooth sustain!
Such a valuable resource for worhsip teams everywhere, man. This really empowers volunteers to be able to feel confident regardless of if they have the resources to find the parts or not.
I struggle with this as well, specifically around Christmas. Thanks for the tips!
Using arpeggios is one of my go-to ways of filling in parts, glad to see I'm not the only one!
Thanks. This is very helpful. I've been an acoustic player for 35 years but have been playing electric for the past few years in church and it's a different frame of mind. This video has some great tips.
I really like this type of content! Thanks Brad
This was what I’ve been looking for. My church we do a lot of songs you’ll find only in a certain niche group of churches. Thanks Brad!
Fantastic video, thanks guys!
This is your best video. Period. Bar none. Super helpful to deal with being phased out by the praise and worship industrial machine.
Great tips. I’ve been doing that lately. I’m on the right track!! Thanks guys
This is some really solid advice. I'm glad to find out I already do most of these tips but the tutorial on the general higher fretboard chords is suuuppeerrr helpful. I also love to outline melodies with octave chords. Mostly cuz I'm a rock kid at heart.
Thanks, this was super helpful! I particularly appreciate the 6 chords which are close and easily accessible, genius! God bless!
Really appreciate these videos
Very handy information. Thanks for sharing!
Oh what a beauty in your hands
Excellent tips!
Really good video. Helpful! Thank you
This is soooo awesome!!!
Love these videos, wish I would've had these a few back, figured this stuff out slowly over the years. You guys are doing awesome and helping out the up and comers in the worship team world! Thanks for the tutorials and all the awesome stuff on your site for line 6 products!
Thanks Nick 🙏🏼
Thanks for this lesson!!
My tip is just to learn a lot of songs in styles you commonly need at church. You'll get enough vocabulary to steal a part from one song and put it in another very quickly. I've played the lead line from "What a beautiful name" in probably like 5 other songs and no one complained :)
Heck, I played the lead line from Duran Duran's "Ordinary World" for "Revelation Song". Sounds awesome :D
Love the guitar!
This is also a good tutorial for beginners going from acoustic to electric to give you some things to get started.
Really hopeful video!👏
Thanks for this, would love more electic guitar playing training/tips videos
Super helpful!!
this is greatly helpful, more videos like this would be siick
Love this!! God bless!!
This is so great for teams with only 1 EG - thanks for this!
A lot of great advice here. I do a lot of these things somewhat naturally and actually instead of playing the “lead” parts from the record, because often they fit better in the case of just one electric on stage. We rarely have the luxury of two electrics on a given Sunday.
Awesome thanks ⭐
The "SUSTAIN NOTES" always work. You're in the key of D major, play D and A notes, this works anytime with any chord!
Thank for these ideas.
Having been an acoustic player and worship leader since the mid 70s, now that I’ve reached 70, I’m making way for younger WLs and am learning more background lead/bass guitar roles. Any Videos on this theme and setting suitable tones would be really helpful. God bless!
When in doubt double a Key part or the melody for the intro/turn/tag, you can also play higher voiced chords of different inversions as well
This is really interesting.
I natively have done this for years and didn’t even realize it was a thing for others too.
What a great guitar!
I think you just described the majority of my playing... Some of my favorite voicings.. Where were you when I was a newbie ? These are really like some golden nuggets here.
Nice video, please, do more such videos, they are really helpful!
Good stuff. Thanks
I like this video very helpful
Gold + platinium video 🙏 thanks
Great video thanks
Great advice. Also your guitar is gorgeous
Chorus pedal + slide + relative minor pentatonic double-stops rolled back off your top volume gives that extra something people hear and like without knowing what they're hearing and liking. Great for when there's an "instrumental" that is really just the keys playing the chords.
That looks like a well made guitar.👍🔥🎸🎼🙏
Haha this goes with the last tip and I heard it from a song when I don't know what to do I'll lift my hands!!
those B-string rooted power chords are where I live when leading as the only electric player
Bro that guitar is awesome.
For worship songs, clean arpeggiated patterns almost always work just fine
Agreed
This is all solid advice. When I played worship guitar, I usually modeled my parts off of stuff like U2/Edge, police/Andy Summers, Earth Wind & Fire, a little Hendrix. A lot of suspensions and airy chords, especially when there are bunch of instruments in the band (eg keys) and several singers. Less is generally more in that type of environment. Just try to cut through over the top a little when you can, use higher chord voicing, inside chords etc, lay off the low 6th string for the most part. You can usually forget the root because like 3 other instruments are covering it lol.
I am sorta impressed with myself that I am already using that shape similarly. But I’ve been sliding up for the 2 and 3. I’m gonna try this thumb wrap thing soon.
Well this was timely. Just texted our worship leader an hour ago about having this problem with all the Christmas songs we are doing this week. I think I'm getting on the right track now. Video was definitely helpful!
Good luck to you dude. How many songs are you doing?
@@isaacthomas9279 doing 6 on Christmas Eve
A couple things that sometimes are not thought of:
Big slow diamonds on the changes especially in open choruses can add a ton to the mix and play in the spaces. Avoid playing licks or lines during the vocals (unless doubling or playing a harmony) and add some of the spice during the spaces.
What I do sometimes is I’ll loop something on my microcosm, reverse it and use the mosaic settings for an ambient pad underneath everything and just mess with that accordingly. Works well since those “guitarless” songs lead into a prayer afterwards and I can leave my ambient loop going
I was at an Al Di Meola clinic and he said "when in doubt, play fast!"
I need to watch this many more times to understand.
That’s why Stryper is my fave P&W band.
Kinda funny. We did a different Phil Wickham song on Christmas, and that one had no electric in it at all. I ended up doing some of what you suggest....arpeggiated chords (ala Oasis in my case...), single notes (or 5ths). it worked quite well. Good video! Thanks.
We are playing “What Child Is This” by Wickam, I feel this, cuz that song is just acoustic. I plan on doing low octaves Similar to Hillsongs “No Other Name” I guess it all depends on what the drummer decides to do help me understand what I am going to play. Also “worship triads” 😂 I love that name for them, definitely my go to! Great vid
Bradford, love your videos. I have watched WT videos for years for how to play songs but just recently picked up on these lesson videos. Awesome stuff. Thank you! I do have a question about Helix patches. When I am using your patches when I change from one setting to another I get a weird wah wah or flanger song between them. Thinging maybe global settings or something? Any help would be great. Thanks
you gotta add the b7 now too haha in your list of chords. Its showing up more and more on worship tunes haha
Ran across these many times. I just voice it and play it like I own it.
I may use fingerpicks and arpeggio open chords, or play octaves, or figure out a nice lead line to play as a fill. Pray a lot about what to play, that helps.
Great points! I rarely, nearly never, play rhythm chords with the acoustic guitars. Our PT leader plays acoustic rhythm 99% (piano is 1%) and does not fully understand electric guitar.
Solid tips hey. And yes not playing is Ok too. Particularly in the quiet sections. But after all it is a guitar shaped world!😂
I like your guitar 🎸
We are spoiled nowadays. 30yrs ago many songs sung in church did not even have easily accessible recordings so being able to play something suitable that you came up with yourself was a fundamental skill.
Adventure drums once said “sometimes the best thing to play, is nothing at all” and honestly sometimes that is true.
Officially with the 1k'th like + a sub ..... awesome video .....this would help me at school alot during fellowships...also not make me look like just a guy standing there just holdin the guitar
I deal with this every now and then. I have some "safe" structures I typically default to... but I do something catch myself thinking "I have no clue what I'm doing right now but whatev"
That basket weave jacket is SIIIIICK!!! From Blue Owl?
I see you.
RGT Shashiko Cruiser 😍
Bonus tip 🙌🏻 sometimes silence speaks louder than our words. 😂😁
Nice
I have three tricks that I’ve used for 20 years. By the time I get to the third trick, you’ve forgotten about the first one. When I restart the cycle you’re all “Whoa, this guy has endless tricks up his sleeve!”
It was very helpful, Bradford. Thank you very much for making this. It's always good to hear somebody who plays as well as you do with a bent towards worshipping the savior, Christ Jesus, the only name under heaven by which we must be saved.
Extremely helpful. I have forgotten a lot of my theory. Do you have any good recommendations for how to relearn the music theory that could aid in my practicing?
rick beato has some decent music theory blitz courses on his channel. It's just the basic stuff, but that's all you need unless you're going full gospel fusion
That RGT sashiko jacket tho 💯
I have played guitar for over 30 years and one thing we guitar players MUST keep in mind is that Worship Music is VOCAL oriented and not guitar. We revolve around the singers and not the other way around. I know its frustrating for some but let me tell you that when I started this journey, it was Organ, piano and acoustic guitar only and MOST churches would not use drums! I have actually been personally removed from worship for using electric guitar. So we should be thankful that we DO get to join in now. Its a major blessing. If you want to improve your guitar playing try Jazz, Flamenco, or Blues. Careful though, we really need to not join with darkness. There are many styles we can play that improve our guitar playing. I would even go so far as to say Neo-Classical shred as a worthy art form. I am drawn to musicians who play instrumental only. Once you get into the lyrics there are many dark and evil things sung. So avoid them all together.
I think it depends on the culture of the church. My church (pentecostal) loves the sound of an overdriven electric guitar rockin in the mix.
I Have to totally disagree with you.
Utter nonsense, there is always space for electric guitar in most modern worship songs & some of the old hymns.
Mixing it…chords & lead work, Improvisation is key, Importance of guitar sound, ambience swells etc.
Not sure why you’re church band doesn’t want you playing much. Maybe time to move on?
Just a note, a lot of modern worship bands have at least 2 electric guitarists, Some 3, plus the bass player!
Elevation is a prime example.
Vocals? Disagree, depends on song, Listen to Martin Smith (worship band) The band would be lost without the lead guitarists Amazing playing.
Absolute wisdom ,sir
Lol those churches that’s anti drum and electric is just bad theology when what they(church leaders) want is to keep tradition. Resistant to art change that is not antichrist or evil. Drums and electric is not demonic. Just because rock bands were “dark”. Christians listen to them daily and they’re not satan worshipers. Also churches that believe a song cannot be play during worship because it’s “hard to follow” or too complex is absolute crap. People enjoy creative music. God is creator of all music and it has to be redeemed not excommunicated.
@@TheJinx1 I have to agree.
Why are churches closing? Open to debate, Lots of reasons. One important factor is recognition of being open to change, adapt, new ideas & moving forward with the times. The churches that are growing are those that embrace change, a more modern approach & current worship music. If it’s a struggle, a mix of old & new, for starters. I’ve found out, it’s a battle to change,
“we’ve always done it this way” “I am used too this form of service & I don’t like change” So the ‘NO ENTRY’ signs are firmly in place on the church doors, to anyone who would like the service to be less regimental, less intimidating & modern.
So the young people are locked out! Yes 👍
Is this what Jesus wants?
of his disciples. 🤷♂️ ‘NO’
You should do a video showing what you would play in a song like Wild Love by Hillsong Young and Free
Do you remember what you were playing through here (which profile/platform)? This sound is so great!
May have mentioned it in the video. Can’t remember for sure but maybe Helix.
I'm not gonna lie, I feel ya. Sometimes I feel like why I'm even up there.
We need a part 2 a little more in depth
Hey guys, I am 30 years old and feel our church really could need someone playing the electric guitar. We only have vocals and a piano. I would junpninto this gap and take some time to learn playing the guitar. Inhale basic music understanding of chords and stuff but I just want to ask if you guys know what path is most effective, bc I don’t want to waste time with methodology bc I also have family and not that much time to spend on this.
Thank you guys in advance, I love your videos, god bless you!
Hi there, nice effects, could you please share them for Line 6 Pod Hd500x? thx
How about Christmas music? Could you give some examples of how electric should play Christmas songs. Not the most friendly for the electric but my church still wants it in there
Wow look at that guitar
Thank you so much for this video I was able to learn a lot. Now I just wish I had pedal board 😂.
If you are just getting started might I suggest pedal from Amazon. When I started I bought several Donner pedals reverb, delay, tuner, chorus & compressor . Add a small isolated power supply and an inexpensive board and you are on your way.
This way you can experiment with effects without spending $300 + on a strymon. Then trade up as you get a better understanding of what you want
Yup. Exactly what I do when no quitars. Some time the keyboard player will not want me to play the melody when they are playing it but other than that...
I still just play a 80s shreddy lead. If your are a lead guitarist I believe you should play like one
So I know my basic pentatonic shapes On E string and A string roots. You said you were playing in B. Then you said to use the B scale (so not the G# minor pentatonic scale?) starting on G# which is the relative minor. I'm a little lost on the scale pattern. Are you just sliding from G# up to B then doing that scale or are you keeping your hand on the G# area and just knowing the notes that fit the B Pentatonic.
Not playing was the #1 tip. Best way to help build a section may be not to play in the previous one :)
Any way I could get tab for each of the 5 alternate chord positions?