Game inserts a system that forces you to not rush out everything, "really frustrating and annoying"... I mean if you're rushing everything I understand, but I think it's a really good premise, the game feel more organic and reminds me of traditional JRPG in a good way. Also, convenience store is a tourist trap, you will need the dennies later on to unlock later tiers of character lvls
Convenience store isn't that much of a trap. I'd say if you are properly building just 1 team (yes, you need 2 later, but you always should focus 1 first), then you'll be fine for dennies. Dennies come in at a daily rate and steady supply, where as the materials in the shop are only obtainable through battery usage and/or events. Eventually as in all gacha games, you will be swimming in the generic currency at some point down the line. It aids progression, even if the denny conversion is not 1:1 for amount spent to amount obtained for battery usage. Build your account appropriately and there will be no shortage of generic currency. In Wuwa (different game, I know), I've built all but 2 characters on my account and I'm strapped for Shell Credits, but through events/milestones/dailies, it put me back on track. However when I run out of Echo/Character exp, I will have no choice but to either refresh or wait. For about 1 day, I had no shell credits and now I have plenty + no shortage of progression materials. I really think people shouldn't be as frugal when it comes to permanent account upgrades such as character and skill leveling, especially for the cost of generic currency. I'll be buying this shop out every week and if I remember this comment, I'll come back and reply as to how I'm doing and when I run out of currency.
@@nes6845 Guarantee that when you start pushing characters to level 60 you will run out of dennies and will regret every single one of them you spent on this shop.
This. 100% agree everything feels like a natural unlock as opposed to “Rush story then start grind model of other games. I’m surprised as to the amount story events the game throws at you and that too at a steady clip. I almost don’t wanna run out of content now 😢
My only problem with farming and with the game in general is stamina regeneration. You genuinely can do 3 battles a day. Is way slower taking end game in consideration.
@@shorty4224 that’s the thing you feel, while in reality most other games have 20 level break points and not 8. After playing gacha games for 6 years Hoyo games are one of the most chill, there is fking AFK journey that takes more time than HSR + Genshin + wuwa combined. And characters are powercreped every months while in Hoyo games I still clear all content with some of 1.0 patch characters.
@@GerriFuryman Ik don't get me wrong I love the game but I can't do much right now I'm lvl 33 and I did the hollow zero mission dozens of time because is the only thing that I get some kinda of reward from it. Idk is the frustration that I want to play more but I can't I guess
@@shorty4224 lvl 33 means you played at least for 8 hours a day from release, do you see that this is not normal amount for 99% of people? or you skiped all story content and played about 4 hours a day, which is worse. Do not rush, there is no reason for that. Hoyo games is about story, always was and always be. If you not interested in the story than you will always be in position you right now.
Receiving 0 of the highest grade material is kinda normal for gachas. In star rail my account is max level and theres a lot of times that i get 0 golden materials when farming mats.
@@Tylysia It kinda is. In a lot of gacha games u r not guaranteed to get the highest ranked material everytime, thats why in most games u can craft lower ranked materials into higher ones. From more casual games like BA, AK, AL, to more farming intensive games like e7, gbf.
@@Ails1234 ah right! sorry, i did misunderstand that ^^ but it does seem logical. so its best to always do 5 Monsters of the same kind to maximize your outcome, isnt it?
@@nilscherubin5495 The number of monsters just lets you save time, the cost and rewards are the same running 1 monster 5 times or running 5 monsters 1 time. The only thing that matters is the level
Why do you say this? I’m a day one HSR player too and I don’t remember drop rates for calyxes and such being increased after launch? 😅 Maybe I just forgot, but ime the grind at max world level is still cringe sometimes, where you can spend 60 TP on a calyx and get none of the max rewards…
Game isn't out for 1 week, yes of course the Shiyu Defense gonna be hard with your undergeared characters. ZZZ isn't really a game for rush. Btw, very good and very informative video !
This guy doesn't know hoyo games that much, receiving zero purple materials on a run is normal, even genshin and hsr is doing it, atleast they balance it out by giving double drop events every update.
Feeling like the amount of stuff you can use charge on is ridiculous. You don't need to spend resin for crystals in genshin, it's not the only source for them. There's just too many things to use charge on not enough charge to gear a character easily.
Yeah, the lack of energy/the number of stuff energy is used for is ridiculous. It seemed fine at first, but then more and more stuff unlocked all of which demanded the same resource, and that resource doesn't even seem to full recover over 24 hours!?
@@Oahehfueihsod you get 240 in 24 hours, not the 300 for the daily quest. Sure, you then get another 60 from the caffe, but I'm really opposed to making bonus energy part of your expected daily use.
This is the problem i have with youtubers, they look at something and say it's shit without even trying to understand why or how the thing is like that. Also the strength difference between a team that clears in 4m32s vs a team that clears in 5m18s isn't as big as you make it out to be. Especially when you take into account that the boss for the first team was a boss that moves away a lot
@@Riaining7 what how you do that? Im in Chapter 2 intermission btw. But lvl 32, with so many blue quest. the only character that ive done intermission is Soldier 11. Im only chillin bcoz I have so many games to play, I only do dailies on week day bcoz it takes me 4hours to do all of my games dailies and then got sleepy. then work in the morning until 6pm.
@@jes-missyouhow? I am lvl 38 and I am playing 4 hours a day, If you understand the game and ddnt skip some important things then you wont be lacking exp from 30to35. Explore more, play through the time reset and rest to skip a quarter of daily time. And hover over your map or press M, look for a blue dot and hover over it and explore the map. There are a lot of hidden quest you need to speak to random NPC and not just talk you have to read in order for you to know what that NPC wants because it wont auto lead you to the commision some are puzzles and some are waiting for some one that have been trapped or in other areas.
@@reedsad4652 it's literally what I am doing.. Though not everything but almost my stamp is 26 in the six street 10 construction and 8 in plazza also my archive only left the red hair kid one still 0/3 now I am already level 35 with 7000+ exp.. I think it's because I think it's because I hold my energy for too long I been like 1/2 days holding it while leaving the coffee mechanics too
I dunno, I’m really liking the game. I got the characters I wanted, got to lvl 33 and now I’m just enjoying the combat within the hollow zone. Even if this doesn’t get a multiplayer mode, im definitely content for a bit. Couldn’t stand the crashing in Wuthering waves
7:28 and 15:20 btw, it’s better to just use all of your music store tuning since it uses a different currency at every level that can not be converted into a higher one.
There's a ridiculous number of comments saying "it works this way in Genshin too". Okay cool. Maybe he got info wrong but maybe drops shouldn't be so stingy and maybe your energy shouldn't recharge so incredibly slow? Just a thought.
I have played on my phone only until like the end of prologue, downloaded into my ps5 and have gone farther. I have the main 3 Billy, Nicole, and Anby lvl 30, and Corin 20. Haven't pulled for anything besides the Bangboo. So that's how i got my engines for Nicole, Corin, and Billy for now. Seeing how far I can get minimally before i start pulling and trying for some sets if i get multiple pulls. I liked learning and hearing about this stuff since I'm big in HSR on my ps5 so trying to decide how I want to maneuver with the synthesiser thing. I have 6 Bangboo. Bagboo at 4 Star lvl 20, Electroboo 2 star lvl 17, Boollseye 1 star lvl 10 and Devilboo 1 star lvl 10. The 4 that are probably best useable for the 4 characters and team rotations where I'm at with Inter-Knot 21. Knowing not to upgrade gear to much is fantastic too know until 40 cause I can just focus on the minimal i have plus the added Soukaku when I get to chapter 2. So I'll have 5 of 6 characters and then go back through hard. Thank you for the insightful video.
I am only a casual person and casual viewer so I may not watch constantly, but I'll definitely look forward to more information as the game progresses and try to be a better viewer as I progress my journey with zzz behind you/beside you as I catch up lol
DO NOT BUY FROM THE CONVENIENCE STORE Even setting aside that you WILL need those dennies later, converting the costs to energy shows that it is absolutely not worth it. You are spending anywhere from 2x to 5x the actual energy cost to farm the items when you buy them from that shop.
Both in Genshin and HSR you will seat on millions of mora/credits. In Genshin I never farm mora or was in situation where I need mora, in 4 years never once. In HSR I was because I lvlup every characters to max I did get to the point that I was short on credits. In wuwa on the other hand even with Free apology gifts I get short on money after 2 weeks of playing, it takes 2 times more money in wuwa, because you must waste money on echo reroll, you simply can’t decide good echo or bad before lvlup…
Yeah but dennies are free and charge is time gated/money gated so the comparison is bad. I can spend dennies for mats or recharge my energy to farm mats and one of those is a smarter choice
Great video but one question; At 21:42 you struggled to clear it and said that’s mainly bc Ellen clears the content so easily compared to the other team. If that’s the case then why did you have your team with 2 electric units fighting the boss that doesn’t have an electric weakness??
If Genshin's Gold talent books experience is any indicator, we can likely expect zero to abysmal drop for top-tier materials. The total waste of time farming experience at top adventure rank is likely going to happen all over again when we look at GI setting the precedence, and HSR is also following that formula. ZZZ won't be an exception.
15:00 I disagree because you can simply use the older upgraded disks, let's say good purple disks, as fodder for your gold disks. It's well worth it to push content for materials and polychrome.
13:12, if you click the exlamation icon near the denny cost it can show you all the materials each lvl, and the special material is only for lvl 12, but i dont know how to aquire it tho.
ive done 3 100 energy runs to get the promotional material to get my agents to 50. i need 10 and only got 1 in those 3 runs. feels awful. am i just supposed to buy polys so i can spam more energy? i just wanna grind my character progression. even with low rates i dont mind, but like. come on man. i really enjoyed grinding my characters but these zero rates are ass. like id rather just play something else then....
I have a task to reach interknot lvl 34 but I've done tasks (Video archive, the police mission, daily missions, exploration, commissions, and combat) any other quests I'm missing?
If you play genshin and hsr you'll see that's nothing wrong with the upgrade material drop as genshin and star rail also do the same imo...for example talent in genshin and traces in star rail...1 run basically will give you nothing at minimum and its the same with zzz tho...that includes the level mats
We have absolutely seen the chance to recieve 0 of the highest tier mats in both Genshin and Star Rail. Thats standard. Its basically the exact same drop rates in ZZZ. You really need to check this stuff before yapping, my guy.
Convenient store is a straight up scam, rn some of you may feel like you'll never need dennies, but believe me when I say that every zzz player will at least be short on dennies once in their playtime, and it won't feel good, also if you do the maths, you'll see that these materials are not cost efficient at all
You're right. There are stepping stones for dennies. We will all get there soon enough. You'll find a 100k denny upgrade, then 200k, etc. Save 'em up and don't waste 'em. Play the long game and collect as much as you can.
@@docedeleite16 yea even the c one, however if you're out of stamina and need one or two material for a decisive upgrade then I can see them being useful
it does feel like it takes away sometimes especially if your focus is combat, but i will be honest and admit that i really liked the turret-defense plants vs zombie mode!
So, one thing the game has is a huge underlying story of taking care of yourself and not doing too much in one day. The mechanics force you to sleep and eat and take personal time. Compared to other HoYo games, it's got characters that genuinely care and are good people. Unlike HSR where everyone is guilty of Crimes against humanity.
such an L mihoyo(yet again) 0-5 is such bull xD i 100% agree with you and ye maybe this is fixed once u hit lvl 50(and even then best case scenario is gonna be 2-6 or something) but REALISTICLY at this stage of the game u happy u hitting 40. 50 is gonna be a loooooong ass time even if they like add new story in 1.1 especially considering that zzz is like hsr where u cant really "add" content to each area maybe a few chests here and there and a few side quests but thats it. Big L
Ice element is head and shoulders above all other elements. Other elements are either DOT or one massive damage. Ice is crit-oriented and still has massive damage at the end. Ice will always be meta. And i fucking hate it
Electric team is just as good, Fire teams are good, too. People are just too dumb to build decent teams. In this video example, he uses grace as DPS although she is an anomaly unit that needs Anton as a carry.
everytime you say "you guys are familiar with" i had never be familiar with it lol as a new game there's might be people that doesnt knoe anything about genshin and ther hoyoverse games i suggest you to however spend couple seconds more for explain to new people that are not familiar with for the rest great video it help me alot
this is a great point! I apologize because sometimes I’m afraid the video will be too long or feel like I’m rambling but I’ll try to be better on this!
Thanks for that, I stopped playing ZZZ because it was starting to feel too much like Genshin, and I didn't want to play two gacha that were too similar to each other at the same time. And yup, from the looks of it they are about 80% similar.
Grace honestly just sucks as a dps... Nekomata, Piper and Nicole team and Ellen+2, Sokaku+6 and Corin+3 team get around the same times for me. Give or take a couple seconds either way depending on how often nekomata's 33% kicks in. Even with the level gap they come through with the S ranks albeit cutting it extremely close
because Grace is not a traditional dps, think of her as Kafka from HSR, she does reaction damage like sucrose does in genshin, a lot of reaction damage and bypass daze because she fills it fast
@@theguest103 That's not exactly true, Nekomata and Soldier 11 aren't limited and Piper, Anton and Corin also do comparable dps to those 2. Grace just isn't supposed to be a main dps, her base attack is relatively low.
wait so let me get this... at level 40 you basically get an artifact like feature where you can get specific stats? that's it!? FUCK THIS!! it is still the same shit! at that point i rather just play monster hunter
Artifacts never was a problem in Hoyo games, it’s the people, all this dudes who think you must have perfect crit rolls arts to make characters playable, while in reality you just slap mid gear and clear content.
@@GerriFuryman You can clear Abyss full stars w/ mid gear using non meta units? What do you mean by clear content? If it's just story then no sht. Besides the relic system is ass regardless because it's purely luck based w/ no guarantees or ways to get actually something good other than grinding domains until you get lucky. The system is legit worse than MMOs and other gacha games I've played.
@@QDRG64 I’m cleaning abyss for max reward last 3 years without any problems and without signature weapons and without dupes. Hoyo games are easy if you have at least basic understanding of the game
I really like the combat sistem of ZZZ BUT the INVENTORY IS JUST HELL XD, you have to memorize sooo many things... The game COVERLY tricks you to forget what material you need to level up something AND SOMEHOW ENCOURAGES YOU TO SPEND MONEY to avoid that memory problem. I LIKE the game somehow, although it feels very empty and nonsense... I hope they could fix many but many things they did at launch... However i think the know more than well what are they doing so as a semi f2p player I fell like i will play this game only sometimes and maybe unistall if i need space in my pc XD regards bros.
Actually, I kind of like not having to sort a thousand things in my inventory. This game isn't perfect, but it does not do what you just described. It does not 'covertly trick' anyone into anything. A competent player can easily sort out the information presented by the game without mistake, and it's easy to find again. Anytime you need to switch between dialogue-windows to double-check something, it is effortless. Most complaints about this game are handled by the skip (spacebar) button. I installed Zenless two days before launch for pre-download, and since release, I have yet to have an unexpected game-crash or error of any kind. I'm very impressed that I didn't see any technical failures during launch at all, while having the client opened, possibly for more than over 10 hours a day. The Zenless devs should be proud of themselves, that's quite an accomplishment. I come from playing Helldivers 2 for the last few months, and the difference in game-stability is incomparable between HD2 to Zenless. Zenless has absolutely outstanding stability and integrity. For HD2, it's not a matter of "if" it will crash, but "when" and in which manner. Zenless Zone Zero does not crash for me, nor do I expect it to crash. I think we need to appreciate this in itself! Great work Z3 devs!
Game inserts a system that forces you to not rush out everything, "really frustrating and annoying"... I mean if you're rushing everything I understand, but I think it's a really good premise, the game feel more organic and reminds me of traditional JRPG in a good way.
Also, convenience store is a tourist trap, you will need the dennies later on to unlock later tiers of character lvls
Convenience store isn't that much of a trap. I'd say if you are properly building just 1 team (yes, you need 2 later, but you always should focus 1 first), then you'll be fine for dennies. Dennies come in at a daily rate and steady supply, where as the materials in the shop are only obtainable through battery usage and/or events. Eventually as in all gacha games, you will be swimming in the generic currency at some point down the line. It aids progression, even if the denny conversion is not 1:1 for amount spent to amount obtained for battery usage. Build your account appropriately and there will be no shortage of generic currency. In Wuwa (different game, I know), I've built all but 2 characters on my account and I'm strapped for Shell Credits, but through events/milestones/dailies, it put me back on track. However when I run out of Echo/Character exp, I will have no choice but to either refresh or wait. For about 1 day, I had no shell credits and now I have plenty + no shortage of progression materials.
I really think people shouldn't be as frugal when it comes to permanent account upgrades such as character and skill leveling, especially for the cost of generic currency. I'll be buying this shop out every week and if I remember this comment, I'll come back and reply as to how I'm doing and when I run out of currency.
@@nes6845 Guarantee that when you start pushing characters to level 60 you will run out of dennies and will regret every single one of them you spent on this shop.
@@Joy_ffa1bd Like any JRPG game?
This. 100% agree everything feels like a natural unlock as opposed to “Rush story then start grind model of other games. I’m surprised as to the amount story events the game throws at you and that too at a steady clip. I almost don’t wanna run out of content now 😢
@@Toksyuryelsupposedly the Best strat is to farm dennies/lvl up material lvl 47-50
>EVERYTHING CHANGES!!!!!
>u just get higher tier items
u got me, got clickbaited.
EVERYTHING that CHANGES
12:55 was amusing for one single reason, how often your mouse hovered over the information symbol that tells you exactly what you need for 11 and 12.
Your shiyu defense experience is to be expected at this point tbh. We're all underleveled and undergeared vs lv58 enemies.
True aha. Mines re llvl 30 and i just did all challenger till 38 included
My only problem with farming and with the game in general is stamina regeneration. You genuinely can do 3 battles a day. Is way slower taking end game in consideration.
It’s same as every gacha, weekly bosses are free btw.
@@GerriFuryman yeah Idk I felt like I can get more from farming in other games and for a longer time
@@shorty4224 that’s the thing you feel, while in reality most other games have 20 level break points and not 8. After playing gacha games for 6 years Hoyo games are one of the most chill, there is fking AFK journey that takes more time than HSR + Genshin + wuwa combined. And characters are powercreped every months while in Hoyo games I still clear all content with some of 1.0 patch characters.
@@GerriFuryman Ik don't get me wrong I love the game but I can't do much right now I'm lvl 33 and I did the hollow zero mission dozens of time because is the only thing that I get some kinda of reward from it. Idk is the frustration that I want to play more but I can't I guess
@@shorty4224 lvl 33 means you played at least for 8 hours a day from release, do you see that this is not normal amount for 99% of people? or you skiped all story content and played about 4 hours a day, which is worse. Do not rush, there is no reason for that. Hoyo games is about story, always was and always be. If you not interested in the story than you will always be in position you right now.
Genshin doesn’t have an item that lets you pick a mainstat on gear, not sure where you got that from
He's probably thinking about Star Rail and forgot that Genshin doesn't have it
Star rail does so he’s obviously mixed the two
@@CharizardIsTheGoat except he mentioned both in that sentence.
seeing how fair ZZZ is made me quit Genshin, don't understand why they do this
@@Soundwave1900its not like he kills somebody, you care too much of a minor mistake lmao
Receiving 0 of the highest grade material is kinda normal for gachas. In star rail my account is max level and theres a lot of times that i get 0 golden materials when farming mats.
"Kinda normal" yeah true for hoyo gachas.
Thats NOT normal for gachas in general
@@Tylysiayeah simply you waste 5times more in other gachas.
I don't know... some gacha games respect you more easily building your characters.
@@GerriFuryman save the glaze bro, hoyo isn't giving you any extra pulls for the comment
@@Tylysia It kinda is. In a lot of gacha games u r not guaranteed to get the highest ranked material everytime, thats why in most games u can craft lower ranked materials into higher ones. From more casual games like BA, AK, AL, to more farming intensive games like e7, gbf.
Hey you’re covering ZZZ?!? Awesome! As someone who quit E7 a couple months ago, I’m glad to see you in my feed again!
Yes I am! Happy to see you :)
1:50 If the drops are calculated per monster (which would make the most sense), then it's going to be a 3.125% chance of getting 0 or 5
you can see that each monster gives you 0-1 materials, so its 0-5 for 5 monsters
@@nilscherubin5495 What I'm saying is the 0-5 is weighted so you're much more likely to get 2~3 than either 0 or 5
@@Ails1234 ah right! sorry, i did misunderstand that ^^ but it does seem logical.
so its best to always do 5 Monsters of the same kind to maximize your outcome, isnt it?
@@nilscherubin5495 The number of monsters just lets you save time, the cost and rewards are the same running 1 monster 5 times or running 5 monsters 1 time. The only thing that matters is the level
As a day a HSR player, I think there’s a very good chance Hoyo will improve QoL on a lot of these low farming numbers.
HSR has a different team, aka the best team in hoyoverse
Why do you say this? I’m a day one HSR player too and I don’t remember drop rates for calyxes and such being increased after launch? 😅 Maybe I just forgot, but ime the grind at max world level is still cringe sometimes, where you can spend 60 TP on a calyx and get none of the max rewards…
As a day a genshin player they take a shit on game) Absolutly no QOL
I'm not sure about that, I'm still having red calyx runs where I get 0 purples very often, this is probably gonna be that
This team is handled by Cai Haoyu. Expect this game to remain the same
Game isn't out for 1 week, yes of course the Shiyu Defense gonna be hard with your undergeared characters. ZZZ isn't really a game for rush.
Btw, very good and very informative video !
This guy doesn't know hoyo games that much, receiving zero purple materials on a run is normal, even genshin and hsr is doing it, atleast they balance it out by giving double drop events every update.
Yup, exactly this. It just feels worse because they tell you flat out 0-5.
Feeling like the amount of stuff you can use charge on is ridiculous. You don't need to spend resin for crystals in genshin, it's not the only source for them. There's just too many things to use charge on not enough charge to gear a character easily.
Yeah, the lack of energy/the number of stuff energy is used for is ridiculous. It seemed fine at first, but then more and more stuff unlocked all of which demanded the same resource, and that resource doesn't even seem to full recover over 24 hours!?
It does refill. You earn 6 a minute for 10 an hour. 24 hours gets you 240 charge at which point it stops regnerating.
@@zerg0s Wdym? It does refill within 24 hrs
@@Oahehfueihsod you get 240 in 24 hours, not the 300 for the daily quest. Sure, you then get another 60 from the caffe, but I'm really opposed to making bonus energy part of your expected daily use.
In WuWa you regularly get zero of the gold skill materials
This is the problem i have with youtubers, they look at something and say it's shit without even trying to understand why or how the thing is like that. Also the strength difference between a team that clears in 4m32s vs a team that clears in 5m18s isn't as big as you make it out to be. Especially when you take into account that the boss for the first team was a boss that moves away a lot
I'm only level 32 right now. Struggling to find any account exp.
Open up your phone and start contacting some agents you need to develop relationships with. This will open up some more commissions, etc.
@@Riaining7 i alr done it i am stuck at level 33 now lol
@@Riaining7 what how you do that?
Im in Chapter 2 intermission btw.
But lvl 32, with so many blue quest. the only character that ive done intermission is Soldier 11.
Im only chillin bcoz I have so many games to play, I only do dailies on week day bcoz it takes me 4hours to do all of my games dailies and then got sleepy. then work in the morning until 6pm.
@@jes-missyouhow? I am lvl 38 and I am playing 4 hours a day, If you understand the game and ddnt skip some important things then you wont be lacking exp from 30to35. Explore more, play through the time reset and rest to skip a quarter of daily time. And hover over your map or press M, look for a blue dot and hover over it and explore the map. There are a lot of hidden quest you need to speak to random NPC and not just talk you have to read in order for you to know what that NPC wants because it wont auto lead you to the commision some are puzzles and some are waiting for some one that have been trapped or in other areas.
@@reedsad4652 it's literally what I am doing.. Though not everything but almost my stamp is 26 in the six street 10 construction and 8 in plazza also my archive only left the red hair kid one still 0/3 now I am already level 35 with 7000+ exp.. I think it's because I think it's because I hold my energy for too long I been like 1/2 days holding it while leaving the coffee mechanics too
I dunno, I’m really liking the game. I got the characters I wanted, got to lvl 33 and now I’m just enjoying the combat within the hollow zone. Even if this doesn’t get a multiplayer mode, im definitely content for a bit. Couldn’t stand the crashing in Wuthering waves
same exact problem, i have a shitty pc and wuwa crashes all the time, and my phone becomes a thermonuclear battery...
7:28 and 15:20 btw, it’s better to just use all of your music store tuning since it uses a different currency at every level that can not be converted into a higher one.
I just hit level 30 the whales are 10 LEVELS AHEAD?!?!?!?
whaling gives you xp???
@@Ceobiscuit you get exp from spending stamina and whales get more stamina from refreshing
What is whales? 💀
Bro I'm f2p and I'm 37
@@sussyballs9973people who spend huge amounts of cash
Just hit 40 today. Such a chill and enjoyable ride.
Tryharding a gacha game is just asking to either get into a bad mental state or spending hardcore.
There's a ridiculous number of comments saying "it works this way in Genshin too". Okay cool. Maybe he got info wrong but maybe drops shouldn't be so stingy and maybe your energy shouldn't recharge so incredibly slow? Just a thought.
I have played on my phone only until like the end of prologue, downloaded into my ps5 and have gone farther. I have the main 3 Billy, Nicole, and Anby lvl 30, and Corin 20. Haven't pulled for anything besides the Bangboo. So that's how i got my engines for Nicole, Corin, and Billy for now. Seeing how far I can get minimally before i start pulling and trying for some sets if i get multiple pulls. I liked learning and hearing about this stuff since I'm big in HSR on my ps5 so trying to decide how I want to maneuver with the synthesiser thing. I have 6 Bangboo. Bagboo at 4 Star lvl 20, Electroboo 2 star lvl 17, Boollseye 1 star lvl 10 and Devilboo 1 star lvl 10. The 4 that are probably best useable for the 4 characters and team rotations where I'm at with Inter-Knot 21. Knowing not to upgrade gear to much is fantastic too know until 40 cause I can just focus on the minimal i have plus the added Soukaku when I get to chapter 2. So I'll have 5 of 6 characters and then go back through hard. Thank you for the insightful video.
I am only a casual person and casual viewer so I may not watch constantly, but I'll definitely look forward to more information as the game progresses and try to be a better viewer as I progress my journey with zzz behind you/beside you as I catch up lol
DO NOT BUY FROM THE CONVENIENCE STORE
Even setting aside that you WILL need those dennies later, converting the costs to energy shows that it is absolutely not worth it. You are spending anywhere from 2x to 5x the actual energy cost to farm the items when you buy them from that shop.
I do what I want
Both in Genshin and HSR you will seat on millions of mora/credits. In Genshin I never farm mora or was in situation where I need mora, in 4 years never once. In HSR I was because I lvlup every characters to max I did get to the point that I was short on credits. In wuwa on the other hand even with Free apology gifts I get short on money after 2 weeks of playing, it takes 2 times more money in wuwa, because you must waste money on echo reroll, you simply can’t decide good echo or bad before lvlup…
Yeah but dennies are free and charge is time gated/money gated so the comparison is bad. I can spend dennies for mats or recharge my energy to farm mats and one of those is a smarter choice
Great video but one question;
At 21:42 you struggled to clear it and said that’s mainly bc Ellen clears the content so easily compared to the other team. If that’s the case then why did you have your team with 2 electric units fighting the boss that doesn’t have an electric weakness??
If Genshin's Gold talent books experience is any indicator, we can likely expect zero to abysmal drop for top-tier materials. The total waste of time farming experience at top adventure rank is likely going to happen all over again when we look at GI setting the precedence, and HSR is also following that formula. ZZZ won't be an exception.
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I disagree because you can simply use the older upgraded disks, let's say good purple disks, as fodder for your gold disks. It's well worth it to push content for materials and polychrome.
I’m level 40 but I don’t see any story mode missions am I missing something??
I think Lucy is an S rank disguised as an A. I dont have Rina yet but if I don't get her free, I'll pick her for my 300
This mans thinking genshin had a way to choose artifact main stats
13:12, if you click the exlamation icon near the denny cost it can show you all the materials each lvl, and the special material is only for lvl 12, but i dont know how to aquire it tho.
Grace is not a DPS, you need Anton for the heavy lifting (pun intended)
not if u use another anomaly character and go full DISORDER BLOOOOOOM
@@rondellmeetei6620 But there is only one other one right now
ive done 3 100 energy runs to get the promotional material to get my agents to 50. i need 10 and only got 1 in those 3 runs. feels awful. am i just supposed to buy polys so i can spam more energy? i just wanna grind my character progression. even with low rates i dont mind, but like. come on man.
i really enjoyed grinding my characters but these zero rates are ass. like id rather just play something else then....
the problem with current shiyu defense is.... ether element...
At end game will you find yourself running out of resources like in genshin impact..As a free to play.
did every single thing there is to do on the game and im still level 35 crazy how paying for stam can get you this far
Any tips? I'm stuck at 32 granted i haven't done the police girl and nekomata's story quest aside from that i don't know where to get exp from lol
@@zarathustra_1You just answered your own question. Why are you not doing those they give decent xp along with first clears of hollow zero
I have a task to reach interknot lvl 34 but I've done tasks (Video archive, the police mission, daily missions, exploration, commissions, and combat) any other quests I'm missing?
@@Szalgebach time gated low-key, dailies give loads of exp as long as ur stamina
@@zarathustra_1 i did everything like every mission possible in all the zones and thats it i also got the daily on launch before 5 am
If you play genshin and hsr you'll see that's nothing wrong with the upgrade material drop as genshin and star rail also do the same imo...for example talent in genshin and traces in star rail...1 run basically will give you nothing at minimum and its the same with zzz tho...that includes the level mats
wait... are we only Leveling up 2 agents?
I have a question about combat simulations. Do you add all 5 enemies or the amount you want?
It depends, but usually I math it out
1:41 you’re guaranteed 4 or so by crafting
What's the 40-50 total XP requirement for the W-engines?
We have absolutely seen the chance to recieve 0 of the highest tier mats in both Genshin and Star Rail. Thats standard. Its basically the exact same drop rates in ZZZ. You really need to check this stuff before yapping, my guy.
Sir, if your character stops the boss's movement by using normal attacks, don't say it's hard
Convenient store is a straight up scam, rn some of you may feel like you'll never need dennies, but believe me when I say that every zzz player will at least be short on dennies once in their playtime, and it won't feel good, also if you do the maths, you'll see that these materials are not cost efficient at all
You're right. There are stepping stones for dennies. We will all get there soon enough. You'll find a 100k denny upgrade, then 200k, etc. Save 'em up and don't waste 'em. Play the long game and collect as much as you can.
even the c rank items?
@@docedeleite16 yea even the c one, however if you're out of stamina and need one or two material for a decisive upgrade then I can see them being useful
Lv35 right now, enjoyed the game. The only thing I hate is the TV thing. It's fine in the main story, but other than that, it feels like a chore.
it does feel like it takes away sometimes especially if your focus is combat, but i will be honest and admit that i really liked the turret-defense plants vs zombie mode!
I always take this chance to relax from smashing buttons. Consider it as your resting time while still playing the game 😂
Every boopon is a limited currency, get it or you risk slowing your bangboo progression.
boss only hitting more dmg and have more hp is kinda of a let down, why not slap in some new attack string like the tactical hologram on wuwa
why are u using the electric bangboo with ellen team in the beginning?
Yeah using the Shark Bangboo is more better because that Bangboo is ice
I FORGOT TO SWAP SORRY!! (i love my shark boo with ice)
I use butler because he's super drippy
This is looking tough for the end game sheesh
So, one thing the game has is a huge underlying story of taking care of yourself and not doing too much in one day. The mechanics force you to sleep and eat and take personal time. Compared to other HoYo games, it's got characters that genuinely care and are good people. Unlike HSR where everyone is guilty of Crimes against humanity.
such an L mihoyo(yet again) 0-5 is such bull xD i 100% agree with you and ye maybe this is fixed once u hit lvl 50(and even then best case scenario is gonna be 2-6 or something) but REALISTICLY at this stage of the game u happy u hitting 40.
50 is gonna be a loooooong ass time even if they like add new story in 1.1 especially considering that zzz is like hsr where u cant really "add" content to each area maybe a few chests here and there and a few side quests but thats it.
Big L
Nice video
lol me grinding soul rock for Ben
A question can you use the bluie master copy for later disk drive or was saving them an missinformationand you can use them now?
Master copy is not convertible nor in any other way, they are there for you to get disk. Use them now
Lol I rolled for Soul Rock on my Level 30 Ben. Oops.
Ice element is head and shoulders above all other elements. Other elements are either DOT or one massive damage. Ice is crit-oriented and still has massive damage at the end. Ice will always be meta. And i fucking hate it
Electric team is just as good, Fire teams are good, too. People are just too dumb to build decent teams. In this video example, he uses grace as DPS although she is an anomaly unit that needs Anton as a carry.
How tf he level 40 alr
everytime you say "you guys are familiar with" i had never be familiar with it lol
as a new game there's might be people that doesnt knoe anything about genshin and ther hoyoverse games
i suggest you to however spend couple seconds more for explain to new people that are not familiar with
for the rest great video it help me alot
this is a great point! I apologize because sometimes I’m afraid the video will be too long or feel like I’m rambling but I’ll try to be better on this!
@@cannaaaa i appreciate it, keep it up
how is bro already at level 40
Spending money. you can use in game currency to get 60 energy.
Bosses hitting harder and having more HP doesn't seem nice. Players wanted difficult content, but in a way where enemies are more interactive.
He literally said they arr more jntera time.
This is not stupid WuWa where health poor is the knly difference.
Love the content
THANK U LEGENDARY!!!
50 sec no comment lemme change it
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Thanks for that, I stopped playing ZZZ because it was starting to feel too much like Genshin, and I didn't want to play two gacha that were too similar to each other at the same time. And yup, from the looks of it they are about 80% similar.
So you never actually played ZZZ?
@@iflgames3245 Played it for two days and then stopped.
Content creator spends the whole video proving that gacha whales can't do math
Is it me or this game is even stingier than genshin?
@@dr.strange1300 maybe, or maybe will be wuwa 2.0 where the scaling is shit
@@dr.strange1300 in general i think, but drop scaling is the most glaring issue right now
Nothing is stingier than Genshin.
@@Hiro.the.God. zzz is getting uncomfortably close, but that might get better with events and shit, i don't know
Me looking at HI3rd craftable Stigmas requirements nervously
Grace honestly just sucks as a dps... Nekomata, Piper and Nicole team and Ellen+2, Sokaku+6 and Corin+3 team get around the same times for me. Give or take a couple seconds either way depending on how often nekomata's 33% kicks in. Even with the level gap they come through with the S ranks albeit cutting it extremely close
Play grace with Anton, should improve. Obviously best case is if U also have rina
no duh, limited dps units are better than standard.
because Grace is not a traditional dps, think of her as Kafka from HSR, she does reaction damage like sucrose does in genshin, a lot of reaction damage and bypass daze because she fills it fast
@@theguest103 That's not exactly true, Nekomata and Soldier 11 aren't limited and Piper, Anton and Corin also do comparable dps to those 2. Grace just isn't supposed to be a main dps, her base attack is relatively low.
wait so let me get this... at level 40 you basically get an artifact like feature where you can get specific stats? that's it!? FUCK THIS!! it is still the same shit! at that point i rather just play monster hunter
It's a Hoyoverse game, tf did you expect?
@@LorisTheUntetheredI dunno tbh people keep saying it gets better once you get to a certain level, but like I didn't see it
Artifacts never was a problem in Hoyo games, it’s the people, all this dudes who think you must have perfect crit rolls arts to make characters playable, while in reality you just slap mid gear and clear content.
@@GerriFuryman You can clear Abyss full stars w/ mid gear using non meta units? What do you mean by clear content? If it's just story then no sht. Besides the relic system is ass regardless because it's purely luck based w/ no guarantees or ways to get actually something good other than grinding domains until you get lucky. The system is legit worse than MMOs and other gacha games I've played.
@@QDRG64 I’m cleaning abyss for max reward last 3 years without any problems and without signature weapons and without dupes. Hoyo games are easy if you have at least basic understanding of the game
I really like the combat sistem of ZZZ BUT the INVENTORY IS JUST HELL XD, you have to memorize sooo many things... The game COVERLY tricks you to forget what material you need to level up something AND SOMEHOW ENCOURAGES YOU TO SPEND MONEY to avoid that memory problem. I LIKE the game somehow, although it feels very empty and nonsense... I hope they could fix many but many things they did at launch... However i think the know more than well what are they doing so as a semi f2p player I fell like i will play this game only sometimes and maybe unistall if i need space in my pc XD regards bros.
Actually, I kind of like not having to sort a thousand things in my inventory. This game isn't perfect, but it does not do what you just described. It does not 'covertly trick' anyone into anything. A competent player can easily sort out the information presented by the game without mistake, and it's easy to find again. Anytime you need to switch between dialogue-windows to double-check something, it is effortless.
Most complaints about this game are handled by the skip (spacebar) button.
I installed Zenless two days before launch for pre-download, and since release, I have yet to have an unexpected game-crash or error of any kind. I'm very impressed that I didn't see any technical failures during launch at all, while having the client opened, possibly for more than over 10 hours a day. The Zenless devs should be proud of themselves, that's quite an accomplishment.
I come from playing Helldivers 2 for the last few months, and the difference in game-stability is incomparable between HD2 to Zenless.
Zenless has absolutely outstanding stability and integrity.
For HD2, it's not a matter of "if" it will crash, but "when" and in which manner.
Zenless Zone Zero does not crash for me, nor do I expect it to crash. I think we need to appreciate this in itself!
Great work Z3 devs!
1:17 just craft them lol
How the heck are you people at lvl 40??