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  • The Voice Referendum results are in! Here is my reaction, some stats and thoughts about the No victory and yet another failed attempt to change the Commonwealth of Australia Constitution.
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    0:28 - National and State Majority
    1:52 - Double Majority
    3:05 - Indigenous Vote
    4:33 - Seats and District Votes
    5:12 - Early Votes
    6:28 - Changing the Constitution
    7:25 - Compulsory Voting and Turnout
    8:29 - Moving forward
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 320

  • @vitamc1213
    @vitamc1213 9 місяців тому +178

    I think we ought to keep our constitution free from race. Recognition of one race over another is in itself racist.

    • @lovelyciing
      @lovelyciing 9 місяців тому

      We are not even included in our own country’s constitution, because colonisers thought Aboriginal people didn’t even have to right to be classified as humans! It was about righting wrongs from the past but yet again Australia shows it’s true racist colours! sad really

    • @hadassah6085
      @hadassah6085 9 місяців тому +22

      Agree. I also see the irony of being told 90% of Indigenous people wanted it, yet places with the biggest Indigenous population (like NT) voted No.

    • @AssistantRegionalManager
      @AssistantRegionalManager 9 місяців тому

      Australia is the only country on earth that doesn't recognise its first peoples in their constitution

    • @nichobee
      @nichobee 9 місяців тому

      ​@@hadassah6085 also based on a very small sample many months ago

    • @lovelyciing
      @lovelyciing 9 місяців тому +5

      @@hadassah6085 we only make up 3 percent of the whole Australia population Im Aboriginal and my mob wanted a yes vote yet again Australia shows her true colours

  • @cebtropico
    @cebtropico 9 місяців тому +79

    How is this shocking, the people did NOT Want this. Figures show. Naive people don’t understand.

    • @ellfra2
      @ellfra2 9 місяців тому

      What?

    • @HGCUPCAKES
      @HGCUPCAKES 9 місяців тому +1

      I asked him the same question. Australia ISNT a racist country, the polls showed that NO one wanted this, including aboriginals. Because it was racist to identify only one race and it would tell all aboriginals and the world that aboriginals were failures in life, even if they tried, and would always need handouts. Which is completely untrue. Always has been. A.ways will be.

    • @item6931
      @item6931 8 місяців тому +2

      I have to admit I'm shocked why this guy and so many others like him are (or profess to be, more likely) shocked.

    • @boitmecklyn4995
      @boitmecklyn4995 8 місяців тому +1

      you're naive to think it would actually fix anything.

  • @ShadowMan66
    @ShadowMan66 9 місяців тому +86

    People were hassled, abused, yelled at, hectored and threatened if they didn't vote YES, so they quietly took the bloody YES brochures and went in and voted NO. Why is it a surprise to you mate? Even The Northern Territory didn't want it as it divided the country and made us look riduclous. Albanese wanted a fuzzy warm Legacy Project but he failed badly. He will be remembered forever as the man who divided Australians. He will never recover from this!

    • @christinac3929
      @christinac3929 9 місяців тому

      Australians might not recover from the absurd coverage of foreign media like the BBC that calls us racist.

    • @kassmalz2069
      @kassmalz2069 9 місяців тому

      classic pinklawan tactic that is why bbm won the election

    • @davidstokes8441
      @davidstokes8441 9 місяців тому

      Albanese wanted a divided nation to ease his Trotskyest ideas a free rwign.

    • @minimcune
      @minimcune 9 місяців тому +2

      Why would you be so petty, and childish to change your vote because someone harassed you? My god welcome to grade 4 emotional intelligence.

    • @hoofie2002
      @hoofie2002 9 місяців тому +16

      ​@@minimcuneThis kind of reaction is why Australia voted no

  • @celinehealy9710
    @celinehealy9710 9 місяців тому +21

    What part of:
    11 aboriginal politicians
    3278 aboriginal bodies already receiving funding
    $40B + per year in funding...
    Is: we do not have a voice?

  • @iand4835
    @iand4835 9 місяців тому +70

    Forcing Australians to sign a blank cheque was the PM’s chosen method, he stayed that corse every step. HE SHOULD GO NOW!!!

    • @divyanshugogna6152
      @divyanshugogna6152 9 місяців тому +7

      I agree that the PM, government, and media, electoral Commission did not properly show literal words of proposal before hand. And to have such a big NO is a direct result of it.

    • @argent10k
      @argent10k 9 місяців тому +6

      @@divyanshugogna6152 Didn't help that the Yes leaders tried to deflect whenever the question of more details or how it would work etc came up by either saying to look it up (where you get contradicting information from the Yes camp) or to imply that you are a racist simply for questioning and should implicitly trust the 'experts' blindly. Didn't help when the PM tried to paint that it was simply an advisory body while the architects and the crybaby aboriginal affairs minister was recorded admitting that it would give power to making treaties (which would likely have recompense clauses).

    • @lynndonharnell422
      @lynndonharnell422 9 місяців тому +2

      No, he should stay and drag the rest of the mob down the gurgler with him.

    • @boitmecklyn4995
      @boitmecklyn4995 8 місяців тому +1

      This referendum was literally asking the australian public to agree to play a game but without knowing the rules of the game.

  • @mikenelson8351
    @mikenelson8351 9 місяців тому +32

    Peoples choice, not the will of the 'Woke' contingent. Seems hard to take for many.

  • @king_familytraveladventure963
    @king_familytraveladventure963 9 місяців тому +23

    That's not a shock... What may be shocking is that people believed the media hype that people were overwhelmingly voting yes. The lesson here is to realise that the majority of Australians are not media lead. That we are not easily swayed.

  • @arclux
    @arclux 9 місяців тому +31

    "shocked that no win in any of the states". Uses the ABC as an information source. 🙄

    • @ReddRubble
      @ReddRubble 9 місяців тому

      It's scraped from the AEC you dunce

    • @jnewgot
      @jnewgot 9 місяців тому

      Which state(s) voted Yes?

  • @robertallan6373
    @robertallan6373 9 місяців тому +65

    Australia made the right decision.

    • @foraustralia2558
      @foraustralia2558 9 місяців тому

      a LOT of fuss EITHER WAY ...over a powerless advisory board...
      c

    • @HGCUPCAKES
      @HGCUPCAKES 9 місяців тому +7

      @@foraustralia2558it was t powerless. Goes to show you haven’t educated yourself on the truth on what the voice actually was.

    • @jnewgot
      @jnewgot 9 місяців тому

      Then please do educate us.@@HGCUPCAKES

    • @foraustralia2558
      @foraustralia2558 9 місяців тому

      No Voters were smarter than you think
      They knew it was powerless.. but it was confusing ..
      Dude even the NO campain only said
      “don’t vote if you dont understand it “ rather than
      AN ADVISORY BODY is a powerless institution
      and this was MORE powerless ...becuase at ANY time it could be changed
      By the parliament
      BUT it is politics 101 to find all the peole in your data bank that come up as slightly paranoid in the voting software
      then target them that things are “not as they seem”
      High school kids know that these day
      I can show you the software

    • @robertallan6373
      @robertallan6373 8 місяців тому +1

      @@foraustralia2558 But still a great outcome.

  • @atpsynthase7990
    @atpsynthase7990 9 місяців тому +12

    It was a disgusting proposal and I'm very proud of Australia and this 0/6 result.

  • @ismzaxxon
    @ismzaxxon 9 місяців тому +14

    The highest NO votes are from areas that have the most aboriginal people. I don't know any aboriginals that voted yes, means you don't get to rural areas much. Your 80% is old and flawed and debunked on youtube commentary. The issue was due to lies from the government. 10% of the current senators are aboriginal. Representation is already there. Interestingly, most voted NO.

  • @0mon0zz
    @0mon0zz 9 місяців тому +45

    I'm for putting an acknowledgement of first nation people in the constitution that's descriptive but not binding; but against an irrevocable lobby group who's accountable to no one and who's powers and composition has not even been properly defined

    • @aidancoutts2341
      @aidancoutts2341 9 місяців тому +1

      You didn't understand the structure clearly.
      Their powers are they can say things to the government. The lack of definition is because the government of the day (your elected representitives) will decide on the structure and funding. That's to ensure they aren't "too powerful". It's likely something no voters would have criticized if it weren't the case.
      The misinformation didn't help

    • @christinac3929
      @christinac3929 9 місяців тому +5

      If the Constitution is going to acknowledge the first inhabitants, it should also acknowledge the 270 ethnic groups that now comprise Australia.

    • @whoozworldizthis4221
      @whoozworldizthis4221 9 місяців тому +4

      ​@@aidancoutts2341The government of the day - as in Albo.. So he will be judge snd jury on how it all works and we don't get to see that before we vote? How would the voice representatives be elected?
      We don't understand the structure because it hadn't been worked out yet. That's the whole reason we voted no

    • @whoozworldizthis4221
      @whoozworldizthis4221 9 місяців тому

      ​@@aidancoutts2341Cope more btw

    • @hadassah6085
      @hadassah6085 9 місяців тому +1

      @@aidancoutts2341 The NZ version of the voice had no powers, but just put white people behind Māori for surgeries.
      “The inclusion of ethnicity in the tool has provoked fierce political debate in New Zealand, where approaches to fixing racial inequality are set to be a contested subject in the coming election. The opposition parties - centre-right National and libertarian-right Act - are opposed to ethnicity being used as a factor, and say they will remove the tool if elected in October.
      The tool has been implemented by health boards rather than at a central government level.”
      Reference: “New Zealand starts giving priority to Māori and Pacific elective surgery patients.” The Guardian.

  • @privacyviolated583
    @privacyviolated583 9 місяців тому +18

    The difference between the hubristic expectations of our social and political elites and the reality of the will of the people highlights just how disconnected from real Australians they are.
    Very disappointed in the former workers party.

    • @LordLarion489
      @LordLarion489 9 місяців тому

      The Labor Party has abandoned the working class in favour of The Greens. Preference deals are a Scam .

    • @RuthDunstan
      @RuthDunstan 9 місяців тому

      They are typical socialists, accrue control and wealth and tell the minions what to do.

  • @1darryloflife
    @1darryloflife 9 місяців тому +39

    This is also a result that ,as you correctly pointed out Renato, 45 referendums with only 8 positive results mean that the people will not tolerate being told only half the story. Aussies are waking up to the Constitution and are starting to look seriously at whether or not our representatives in our Parliament are actually abiding by the strict letter of the Constitutional contract. I have personally been showing the Constitution to people in public meetings for over 20 years and can guarantee that people are waking up and will be resisting the rhetoric that they and their forefathers have been fed for generations. There is so much to heal between the current Political stand and what the Constitution dictates and it is refreshing to have come across your channel. Even you have made some mistakes but lets all move towards making a great Nation with people who understand, according to the Constitution, what those in Government can and cannot do when they represent the people in the peoples Parliament.

    • @minimcune
      @minimcune 9 місяців тому

      WORDSALAD ALERT

    • @Workmills23
      @Workmills23 9 місяців тому +2

      ​@@minimcunetoo much for your smooth brain to handle aye??😂

    • @jnewgot
      @jnewgot 9 місяців тому +1

      It's called a wall of text, not word salad.@@minimcune

    • @alexc4159
      @alexc4159 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@minimcune seemed like coherent and plane spoken english to me. Like you don't get a picture for every 5 words like those books you read to a 3 year old. But as long as your IQ is higher than the number of candles you would typically see on a wiggles themed birthday cake you should be able to follow along without any dial up noises ringing in your head.

  • @bernie8987
    @bernie8987 9 місяців тому +9

    With all the big corporations, full biased media, actors, sports bodies and full time whinging activists the Australian people have shown that they do not like racism

  • @davidstokes8441
    @davidstokes8441 9 місяців тому +6

    The wrong question at the wrong time asked by the wrong Prime Minister.

  • @skillsrev
    @skillsrev 9 місяців тому +22

    Hardly a shock when Albo said on his opening speech a year ago "if we give you all the details nobody would vote for it". We'll he now learned an important lesson, if you don't give out any details, just touchy feely vibes.... PEOPLE STILL WON'T VOTE FOR IT! When activists are held to account, asked to explain their theory's and people are given a direct say on the matter, it's no surprise they reject these ideas. The bigger story should be that activists have created the division, are trying to blame it on other people, and have been selling snake oil to all Australians just so that they can get their extreme ideology into government which is based on race and power. 60% of Australians said "Let's move forward together not divided!" But I'm sure that won't sell clicks and views, so now we are and will get bombarded with accusations of racism and any other ism that just is blatantly not true!

    • @Power_Prawnstar
      @Power_Prawnstar 9 місяців тому +2

      It won't work, they won't guilt people into this, it's the worst thing they could do now.
      I think due to our multi-culturalism, Aussies are a pragmatic bunch.........mostly.......... this was never explained enough, didn't seem sensible enough, not many people I know are going to say to the Govt "Yeah, do what you want"
      Albo says it has no power, his minister then says it's the first step to treaty, then Mayo says "pay the rent", who do we believe? Do they even know? What even is treaty?
      I liked your line "let's move forward together, not divided", That's exactly how I feel, we will get there, but it has to be done right.

    • @skillsrev
      @skillsrev 9 місяців тому +2

      @brendonmackay4861 everyone I know who voted no had stories about indigenous Australians they know and admire. We are already moving forward but these political activists won't allow this gradual togetherness, I would go as far as saying that they are causing more racism, but of course it's not about race to them but about power. I say that because of they look around there are examples of us moving forward together everywhere, it's just that broken people won't see that, so I choose to listen to those that aren't blinded by hate and hurt.

    • @Thomas-uz3zf
      @Thomas-uz3zf 8 місяців тому

      Plus I dont listen to news or media. And I think this is the case with more and more people. We just dont listen to the propaganda anymore. We've just stopped being tuned. Sick of it

  • @user-up6eb1kn7d
    @user-up6eb1kn7d 9 місяців тому +8

    Would like to know why AEC were not able to remove all the purple yes vote signs at polling booths? I asked them about signs. They knew they were wrong but were told to do nothing. What are our rights regarding removing the signs! I began to remove them and was accosted by yes people.

  • @awb07d
    @awb07d 9 місяців тому +31

    They have a legislated voice already its called the national indigenous council

    • @innocentbystander2673
      @innocentbystander2673 9 місяців тому +7

      Can we get rid of some of the 3000 other gravy train ones now?

    • @Power_Prawnstar
      @Power_Prawnstar 9 місяців тому +4

      I wonder what the ministry of Indigenous affairs actually does?

    • @HandsomeNamed
      @HandsomeNamed 9 місяців тому +6

      They have a voice already, it's called a vote.
      Same voice we all have!

    • @jnewgot
      @jnewgot 9 місяців тому

      Which is why I voted Yes, for racism.@@HandsomeNamed

    • @danielsonn3046
      @danielsonn3046 8 місяців тому

      You have no clue

  • @beyondthegoats6048
    @beyondthegoats6048 9 місяців тому +28

    Albo should resign,Absolutely out of touch with the majority of Australians.

    • @BabylonCentral
      @BabylonCentral 9 місяців тому

      But the majority of Australians voted for his/the ALP's promise to hold a referendum at the last election? You effectively want to sack a party/politician for keeping a promise??? Pshhhh...

    • @Fornax70
      @Fornax70 9 місяців тому +1

      ⁠@@BabylonCentralfirstly only 30 odd percent of people voted for Labor as their first preference and the the Voice promise was likely very low down on the list of reasons Labor won.
      That said Albanese should resign because of the utterly appalling campaign he has run which guaranteed the electorate would turn on his Voice.
      He’s completely out of touch with mainstream Australia and is not the right person to lead this nation.

    • @HandsomeNamed
      @HandsomeNamed 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@BabylonCentral
      The rank corruption and failure of the previous government is why Albanese won the election. Do you seriously think anyone gave two shits about this referendum? We didn't care until we were forced to. Then we made our clear and definitive response.

    • @beyondthegoats6048
      @beyondthegoats6048 9 місяців тому

      $350 million wasted on something he could of addressed without all this division...I sure as hell didn't vote for him and over 60 % of Australians voted his voice down...@@BabylonCentral

  • @noelburns4512
    @noelburns4512 9 місяців тому +7

    omg approximately 61% of Australian Citizens voted no for good reason. We are one of the greatest multicultural countries in the world with laws that protect all peoples of this country thanks to a democratic society based on Westminster principles. The main reasons NO succeeded in my opinion is 1/ The constitution is for all Australians regardless of race and when you became a citizen. 2/ We were ask to vote on a voice with no details on how it would end up being structured and how it would really improved the most marginalised of this country. 3/ A lot of voters for the NO would like to see acknowledgement of first Nations people enshrined in the constitution but based on Treaty and truth telling. 4/Approximately 40 % of fist Nations people did vote NO. 5/ The Yes campaign was unable to belay the fears surrounding the Voice even though it is reported they had $100 million dollars to do so compared with $13 million for the NO, and most major corporate, sporting bodies and celebrities also saying vote yes. 6/ The government still went ahead with the referendum dividing the country with no bi partisan support. No referendum of the 45 we have had ever got up without this.

  • @dont_listen_to_Albo
    @dont_listen_to_Albo 9 місяців тому +3

    The Prime Minister speaks from both sides of his mouth. He calls for “kindness” (code for voting Yes), but mocked the No camp as “chicken little”, and imputed that they are racist. He calls for reconciliation but lash out at the No campaigners.

  • @RuthDunstan
    @RuthDunstan 9 місяців тому +3

    No one was going to say they were votihg no, the bullying was bad.

  • @bunyip38
    @bunyip38 9 місяців тому +7

    It's probably shocking for those who believe that people of a certain race must vote a certain way, or that people of a certain race are stereotypically unable to think or fend for themselves without being told how by someone 'more qualified'. My reading of the results is that 60% of Australians (all types) understand that, while not perfect, the Constitution is not as bad as some, and that changing it to make one man famous is not a good idea. That same 60% also recognise that there are many people of all backgrounds doing it tough and the mechanisms to help are in place already, if only the self-important bureaucrats in control of the money would do their jobs.

  • @SF-eo6xf
    @SF-eo6xf 9 місяців тому +26

    as an immigrant it was an obvious no. We didn't speak the language, spend $100k+ in uni and visa fees and worked with abusive employers to become Australian and than I should vote to become a second class citizen after that?!

    • @hadassah6085
      @hadassah6085 9 місяців тому +4

      Yeah, imagine how we all would’ve been treated. The NZ version of the voice had no powers, but just put white people behind Māori for surgeries.
      “The inclusion of ethnicity in the tool has provoked fierce political debate in New Zealand, where approaches to fixing racial inequality are set to be a contested subject in the coming election. The opposition parties - centre-right National and libertarian-right Act - are opposed to ethnicity being used as a factor, and say they will remove the tool if elected in October.
      The tool has been implemented by health boards rather than at a central government level.”
      Reference: “New Zealand starts giving priority to Māori and Pacific elective surgery patients.” The Guardian.

    • @pammccarthy4829
      @pammccarthy4829 9 місяців тому +3

      Absolutely! The average Aussie battler who works their arse off and pays high taxes haven’t complained about all of the money that has gone to Aboriginals with no accountability! However, in these difficult financial times to be asked to give even more $ in the form of a blank cheque or be called Racist was too much! Disagree that the NO has anything to do with past Referendums. Each would be considered on its own merits!!

    • @minimcune
      @minimcune 9 місяців тому

      what does that even MEAN. Jesus christ. The irony of immigrants, given a chance in this country...not extending that chance to others is absolutely fascinating.

    • @HGCUPCAKES
      @HGCUPCAKES 9 місяців тому +5

      Imagine you have three generations of your family, born and bred in Australia and then you’re welcomed to country.
      You think coming here to pay for uni etc is hard? Imagine what it’s been like for those of us that have ALWAYS been here now insulted by being welcomed to a country that our family members fought to protect and fought to honour.

    • @minimcune
      @minimcune 9 місяців тому

      @@HGCUPCAKES Sorry hold up just realised I'm very unclear what your actual argument is in regards to the referendum. Are you implying that it is your immigrant status that necessitated a no vote? Why are you talking about uni fees? Who is becoming a second class citizen im absolutely confused.

  • @Fornax70
    @Fornax70 9 місяців тому +17

    This result was exactly what should of been expected, the polls have been showing for months the Voice was going to lose badly everywhere.

    • @whitneyanders5945
      @whitneyanders5945 9 місяців тому +1

      ‘Should have’ not ‘should of’. The Australian education system failed so many people when it comes to spelling and grammar.

    • @Fornax70
      @Fornax70 9 місяців тому

      @@whitneyanders5945 that’s all you took away from all this, a small grammatical error but apparently that’s enough to claim the nation’s educational system has failed me and many others. What a worthless comment.

    • @michaelsteane9926
      @michaelsteane9926 9 місяців тому

      And given the nature of the "yes" campaign (we are generous, they are mean), it was predictable that more people would vote "no" in a secret ballot that would show up in a poll. It was the same with Brexit and the Trump Vs. H. Clinton election. It will be the same wherever one side thinks it is morally better than the other and engages in moral bullying.

    • @Euro.Patriot
      @Euro.Patriot 6 місяців тому

      Coming from the donk who forgot to capitilaise her name.

    • @michaelsteane9926
      @michaelsteane9926 6 місяців тому

      Capitilaise?@@Euro.Patriot

  • @k4ngk0ng74
    @k4ngk0ng74 9 місяців тому +7

    why are you shocked? history ahs shown every time it was shot down and for good reason.

  • @johnrew5713
    @johnrew5713 9 місяців тому +10

    Originally I thought it would get through. I am relieved to say that I underestimated my fellow Australians.

  • @glennllewellyn7369
    @glennllewellyn7369 9 місяців тому +3

    We should have a referendum on whether Albo keeps his job.

    • @minimcune
      @minimcune 9 місяців тому

      Let's get rid of the right wing racists instead, eh? A win for everyone!

  • @alfredneuman6488
    @alfredneuman6488 9 місяців тому +12

    Let's get rid of the "Welcome to Country" nonsense too.
    It is 'our' country, a country for all citizens.
    Real Aboriginals know this vote was not for them but those white people who call themselves 'aboriginals' and who benefit the most from Government money.
    Like Noel from Noosa who still needs to explain what has happened to the $550,000,000 paid out by the Government for the people of 'his' area Cape York...
    Has some gone to a flash home in Noosa?

  • @Power_Prawnstar
    @Power_Prawnstar 9 місяців тому +5

    If it had of been about recognition in the constitution, it would have come in with a landslide victory.
    Albo is responsible for the voice part of the referendum, it was his baby, not the elders, and the people didn't want it, they felt it was unfair.
    Time to figure out where the money is going and sort the actual problems out, hopefully this gets that going and we can close the gap, because 99% of Australians want that.

    • @danielsonn3046
      @danielsonn3046 8 місяців тому

      No it would still fail because people are too scared to change the constitution and claim race shouldn't be apart of it when it already is btw.

  • @tomn4483
    @tomn4483 9 місяців тому +3

    yeah the rhetoric that all indigenous people wanted the voice was one of the biggest lies of the yes campaign

  • @jasonsangwin4006
    @jasonsangwin4006 8 місяців тому +3

    Great result, many people saw through this BS.

  • @pest86
    @pest86 8 місяців тому +2

    Uniting nation by forcing it to choose one of the completely opposite options.
    Brilliant plan by smart guy!

  • @mrdisklow
    @mrdisklow 9 місяців тому +4

    how was that shocking ?

  • @jonesdaevilone
    @jonesdaevilone 9 місяців тому +22

    The only places that voted yes were the big cities with all the privileged rich people who live in gated communities.
    To those of us who live rural amongst the indigenous it was an obvious choice..

    • @lynndonharnell422
      @lynndonharnell422 9 місяців тому

      Soy latte is bad for you

    • @minimcune
      @minimcune 9 місяців тому +1

      can confirm as someone who lives in a city can confirm dont live in a 'gated community' (how is that relevant, sorry?). Why was it 'obvious' because you live amongst indigenous folk? Indigenous people....who ACTUALLY LIVE WITH OTHER INDIGENOUS PEOPLE wanted yes. Data shows that the less educated, older, less money and greater distance you are to a capital city the more likely you were to vote no. Colour me SHOOK.

    • @jonesdaevilone
      @jonesdaevilone 9 місяців тому +3

      @@minimcune what? Try again, this time with punctuation.
      My gated community comment was implying that these people in the elecotrates in and around big cities that had the highest percentage of yes voters have never been victimised or even seen what happens in indigenous communities.
      I live in one of the most dangerous indigenous communities in australia working security at a womens shelter. Ive not only seen the violence but also been at the receiving end of it like having spears thrown at me for defending battered women. But nobody hears about that and when it does get out there its palmed off as a right wing conspiracy.

    • @jonesdaevilone
      @jonesdaevilone 9 місяців тому +2

      @@minimcune also the richest state in Australia (Western Australia) voted no so dont come in here saying only the dumb poor people voted no. Heck i'm on nearly 200k a year and I voted no

    • @minimcune
      @minimcune 9 місяців тому

      ​@@jonesdaevilone The data doesn't show that EVERY person not falling within those broad ranges voted yes. So making a point, about a single data point- your income, is irrelevant.

  • @kevinwaters5872
    @kevinwaters5872 9 місяців тому +6

    The fact this guy is in shock at the result tells me I wouldn’t want him as my lawyer. Period.

  • @veritas4517
    @veritas4517 9 місяців тому +6

    Passing a referendum in Oz has a dismal record, only 8 times has one been passed.

    • @theflyingdropbear2009
      @theflyingdropbear2009 9 місяців тому

      and each of those 8 times where a Referendum had passed, is when there was bipartisan agreement.

  • @bernie8987
    @bernie8987 8 місяців тому +2

    The only place for Yes was the Canberra bubble, full of people on the public purse voting to get more people on the public purse.

  • @bjmckay3
    @bjmckay3 9 місяців тому +3

    What a waste of tax payers Dollars $$$ 🤯🤬😡

  • @rickandersen2284
    @rickandersen2284 9 місяців тому +11

    You must live in a city if you are shocked. We all knew out here in the bush. And now they're going to take their toys go home and sulk for a week. Like 2 year olds. Are they really mature enough for politics? It gets rough.

    • @Fornax70
      @Fornax70 9 місяців тому +1

      Inner city. Us suburban Aussies are very different from our inner city brethren and we weren’t shocked either.

    • @rickandersen2284
      @rickandersen2284 9 місяців тому +1

      @@Fornax70 yep!

    • @HGCUPCAKES
      @HGCUPCAKES 9 місяців тому +1

      Either a Sydney or Melbourne UA-camr. Totally out of touch with reality.

  • @denisgately4701
    @denisgately4701 9 місяців тому +2

    The dynamic of this referendum was all wrong.....politicised along party lines. And for that, one can only blame the PM as the architect and initiator of the process.
    And honestly, why one earth were there people at polling places handing out "how to vote" cards ?!!! Are we not capable of writing "yes' or "no" ???? What a lot of nonsense...

  • @jaredvaughan1665
    @jaredvaughan1665 9 місяців тому +3

    No to a segregated parliament.

  • @theflyingdropbear2009
    @theflyingdropbear2009 9 місяців тому +5

    I was expecting 4 states to vote No, and 2 States to vote yes, I was also expecting both territories to vote in favour the Voice to Parliament, and I was also expecting the popular vote to be closer.
    the Yes Campaign lost this referendum months ago, and the Yes Campaign only have themselves to blame, they were condescending, arrogant and dysfunctional in their messaging. While their ground game was good, which wouldn't be too hard, considering the fact that the No Camp didn't have anywhere near the resources the Yes Camp had, and they still managed to lose it.
    with all the money that they poured into this campaign, and now they have nothing to show for, they really only have themselves to blame, too many conflicting messages, and the optics of the last 3-4 months simply didn't help them in any capacity.
    the No vote winning was not a surprise, but what was the surprise, was the magnitude of the win

  • @SuperWarren83
    @SuperWarren83 9 місяців тому +3

    In the cold light of day, no matter your political leaning's, Albosleepy FAILED BIG TIME, He was warned by both sides of Politics, sell the VOICE Properly, give detail, he refused on both counts ,and wasted millions of YOUR TAX PAYER DOLLARS, on a whim, The reality, he was pressured by the far left of his Party, BIG FAIL,Most of what he promised, could have been delivered by both sides knocking collective heads together ,and finding better ways of ''Closing the gap''....I hope the ALP,Has a rethink of his performance, has a leader ship ballot and remove him from a position he was never suited to.....Just no winners..

  • @hmao4466
    @hmao4466 9 місяців тому +4

    Not even aboriginal people wanted this dud.

    • @minimcune
      @minimcune 9 місяців тому

      i mean thats simply just ...not correct.

    • @danielsonn3046
      @danielsonn3046 8 місяців тому

      Actually majority of Aboriginals did.

  • @misslove432
    @misslove432 8 місяців тому +3

    How would they have accurate statistics on indigenous votes when they did not ask that question. They asked for your name & you ticked a box there was no box asking you to identify if you were indigenous or not. Also they had signs saying 80% of indigenous people wanted the YES vote based on what statistics?

    • @Thomas-uz3zf
      @Thomas-uz3zf 8 місяців тому

      The good ol source: trust me bro

  • @DJ99777
    @DJ99777 9 місяців тому +2

    I don’t find it shocking at all. I don’t know a single person who voted for it. I was surprised so many people voted yes. What’s your accent by the way? I like it.

  • @douglasermedia3390
    @douglasermedia3390 9 місяців тому +6

    Considering that areas with large Aboriginal populations all voted NO I wonder if the whole Uluru Statement & move towards Treaty should also be junked? It was only created by a group of unelected self-appointed activists representing nobody but themselves.

  • @debrahumphreys9305
    @debrahumphreys9305 9 місяців тому +1

    It's astounding that the ACT yes vote was so high. I

  • @foraustralia2558
    @foraustralia2558 9 місяців тому +1

    NO biggie ... almost all referendums fail in Australia

  • @CalebAllenPhoto
    @CalebAllenPhoto 8 місяців тому +1

    Newspoll and Redbridge polls were showing around 39% yes, so it was expected.

  • @1969cmp
    @1969cmp 8 місяців тому +1

    The polling two weeks out have zero states for Yes. I picked the margin, too 40/60.
    In regards to the ACT. Sure, greater levels of higher education but so was The Third Reich.

  • @wolfsas001
    @wolfsas001 9 місяців тому +5

    It is time to bring in DNA testing! If you haven't got a grandparent who is aboriginal then you aren't Aboriginal!

    • @jnewgot
      @jnewgot 9 місяців тому

      How do you figure, markers can go back several generations?

    • @wolfsas001
      @wolfsas001 9 місяців тому +1

      If you look white you are white! There are 300000 people claiming Aboriginality since the last Census because it is trendy.. like being Trans or Gay!

    • @robertmurray8763
      @robertmurray8763 8 місяців тому

      ​@jnewgot Technology does exist to give whatever your ethnicity will be.
      If you have done year 12 biology and other seince based subjects. It's easy to work out.

    • @jnewgot
      @jnewgot 8 місяців тому

      Again, markers go back several generations.
      Read the context and try again. @@robertmurray8763

  • @HGCUPCAKES
    @HGCUPCAKES 9 місяців тому +3

    What should be shocking to you is $380 million was spent on yes.
    Where as that money could of been used for drug and alcohol abuse in aboriginal towns, domestic violence, school attendance, regional hospitals, etc….

    • @mckdogdrums3543
      @mckdogdrums3543 9 місяців тому

      Makes you sick doesn’t it… what a waste

  • @metalfly.
    @metalfly. 9 місяців тому +2

    This was an incredibly painful and cringey attempt to drag out a video that could have been over in less than 5 min, all to appease the UA-cam alogrithm and more opportunity to insert more ad slots.

    • @DD-bx8rb
      @DD-bx8rb 9 місяців тому

      Millions of dollars of our money injected by government and businesses, but Australia rejected this neo-Marxist trojan horse. We used our brains for once

  • @morkryan8287
    @morkryan8287 9 місяців тому +3

    In the context, if you were paying attention, it’s not shocking at all. Their campaign was awful. It lacked detail and relied on peer pressuring and virtue signalling. Works well for some initiatives, but not for this. You can’t rely on posters and cute ad campaigns to win in this context. They failed to provide detail and it ended their chances as a result

    • @Thomas-uz3zf
      @Thomas-uz3zf 8 місяців тому

      They just made cringe annoying long yes ads. All the no ads I saw were 5 seconds where as the YES ads said a lot of words without really saying anything

  • @dekzzx
    @dekzzx 8 місяців тому +1

    Australians seen through the grift.

  • @1969cmp
    @1969cmp 8 місяців тому +1

    Albanese is the disarster artist of Australian prime minister.

  • @mckdogdrums3543
    @mckdogdrums3543 9 місяців тому +1

    I think it was at a time of trust not being there for the public and its governments going all the way down from federal, state, to local. I’m not saying this was the main reason but voters have unrest and are sick of feeling attacked for how they feel or want to feel.
    Also seeing Albanese he looks as if Australia failed him and it’s a sad day. But isn’t a referendum meant to be for 2 differing voices? So is there a bias? sort of telling.

    • @jnewgot
      @jnewgot 9 місяців тому

      Nah, had they kept their mouths shut and the corporations out of it most Aussies wouldn't have realized it was racist until too late.

  • @iamnoone705
    @iamnoone705 9 місяців тому +2

    as a lawyer you should know that from the start - most referendums fail.

  • @darkangel2347
    @darkangel2347 9 місяців тому +1

    From 1863 to 1911 the NT was merged with SA.

  • @kienhwengtai8113
    @kienhwengtai8113 9 місяців тому +3

    Yes won the ACT ... if that's any sort of win.

    • @HGCUPCAKES
      @HGCUPCAKES 9 місяців тому +2

      ACT is where all the policy makers are. So it would be weird if they voted no on their own policy huh? 🤦🏼‍♀️😂

    • @kienhwengtai8113
      @kienhwengtai8113 9 місяців тому +2

      @@HGCUPCAKES Yes well, that's where all the grifters would be wouldn't it?

    • @RuthDunstan
      @RuthDunstan 9 місяців тому +3

      That's because they were looking forward to the bigger trough to get their snouts and trotters in😂.

  • @jaredvaughan1665
    @jaredvaughan1665 9 місяців тому +6

    Good job Australians!

  • @josh371
    @josh371 9 місяців тому +1

    What do you mean by finishing the video on a "positive note"? This sort of judgmentalism is what caused the Yes campaign to collapse well before the polling booths opened.

  • @pisces89
    @pisces89 8 місяців тому +1

    From everyone else’s point of view they get special treatment because their ancestors were here before ours were which means nothing. Stop the gravey train system, welcome them to the 21st century where everyone has to work to survive and struggle, not just them.

  • @willynebula6193
    @willynebula6193 9 місяців тому +4

    I'm going to be polite.
    Mate if you are surprised, i think you might be in a bubble.

  • @Safetrip-sb9qr
    @Safetrip-sb9qr 9 місяців тому +4

    No totally agree. We have to remember how the Government just tells us part of the truth and try to get the high land of the moral.

  • @lorenzlorenzo1975
    @lorenzlorenzo1975 8 місяців тому +1

    Common sense prevailed.

  • @richardburian2516
    @richardburian2516 9 місяців тому +1

    Thankyou very informative

  • @colinmay151
    @colinmay151 9 місяців тому +1

    Why shocked that NO single state voted YES,?? ,, was has state borders have to do with this issue ??? Can not see you logic why that should be a vast factor to generate your shock. My shock is the expectation it would have been a more closer to a 70/30 result

  • @maccart67
    @maccart67 9 місяців тому +2

    No shock!

  • @matty3221
    @matty3221 9 місяців тому

    Cheers for making the vid,

  • @dontgetmadgetwise4271
    @dontgetmadgetwise4271 9 місяців тому

    The NT voted No because they don’t want any part of being Australian? They demand separation and treaty, not subjugation by our constitution.

  • @NathanNostaw
    @NathanNostaw 8 місяців тому

    Regarding the difficulty of achieving successful constitutional referendums, are there any breakdowns analysing the type of questions and how well the proposed change has been drafted or communicated?
    I can see on the surface to many in and outside of Aus that it may look like this result shows Aus is racist, but this vote was so much more complicated than just a question of adding a note of recognition to the constitution.
    From the beginning I felt the proposal wasn't strong and was bound to raise questions that were not being answered.

  • @brettanthonypalmer2956
    @brettanthonypalmer2956 9 місяців тому

    An Act to constitute the Commonwealth of Australia
    [9th July 1900]
    Whereas the people of New South Wales, Victoria, South Australia, Queensland, and Tasmania,
    humbly relying on the blessing of Almighty God, have agreed to unite in one indissoluble Federal
    Commonwealth under the Crown of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, and under
    the Constitution hereby established
    Do you have any question ""Aussie Law"" ?

  • @Reeflex1
    @Reeflex1 8 місяців тому

    What Australian Constitution 1900 book are you reading from?
    Does it have the Royal seal inside? The Aussie Gov started making up their own without any referendums in 1973..

  • @Workmills23
    @Workmills23 9 місяців тому

    Those hate filled things, will get no reperations from me😅
    It is a fkn NO

  • @neilgregory9083
    @neilgregory9083 9 місяців тому +3

    Shocking? Really? 😂😂
    Calling 90% of the population racists didn't get appreciated?

    • @minimcune
      @minimcune 9 місяців тому

      truth hurts I guess. Not only racist, but apparently very sensitive to being called out on their racism evidently. Who would have imagined.

  • @greyman003
    @greyman003 9 місяців тому +2

    I predicted this result in 2022. Th question was flawed despite the intention being commendable. I agree with recognition of First Nations people in the Constitution. I suggest a Treaty is necessary.
    The referendum is an example of democracy at work. The people of Australia have a right to choose what they consider an appropriate change to the constitution. Overwhelmingly the Australian people have rejected the proposal. Lessons need to be learned from this referendum.

  • @mavisbirrell6746
    @mavisbirrell6746 8 місяців тому +2

    Why are you upset? Constitutional change is a legal matter. No details No assent.

  • @joshuarogers7029
    @joshuarogers7029 9 місяців тому +1

    Can we get a tax refund next EOFY??
    I'm only half joking...

  • @tonyla3099
    @tonyla3099 8 місяців тому +1

    It’s not about politics bro it’s about racism

  • @vesnaborcic1137
    @vesnaborcic1137 9 місяців тому

    BTW , when you mention emu and a kangaroo, would be good if you can find out why our Commonwealth Constitution does not have original sal ,like in 1900??

  • @HGCUPCAKES
    @HGCUPCAKES 9 місяців тому +3

    0:04 that was shocking to you?
    Why? Australia ISNT racist! So it shouldn’t be shocking to you that not ONE state supported the voice which only recognised one race and told aboriginals and the world that aboriginals will never achieve anything and would always need support.

  • @attiliogioia8573
    @attiliogioia8573 9 місяців тому +2

    Why didn’t you mention Dutton’s speech. You’re prejudice is obvious

  • @PCHUANG-yk9pw
    @PCHUANG-yk9pw 9 місяців тому

    good content. but you need a better mic. the sound quality is poor.

  • @jannaZX
    @jannaZX 8 місяців тому

    I drink your tears like sweet wine 😅😅😅

  • @jannaZX
    @jannaZX 9 місяців тому +2

    Maybe you're a fraction out of touch * Lawyer

  • @metakarukenshi
    @metakarukenshi 9 місяців тому +1

    the voice was dead in the water from the start, the yes side didn't make a strong enough appeal to the people to explain why a Yes vote was important, many simply believed they just had to say it was about acceptance and writing wrongs of the past and the people would all accept and vote Yes. Meanwhile the No side spread so much misinformation and fear, majority of the fear they spread was about housing, rent, cost of living. All things that are at the front of voters minds as we are in a crisis thanks to the last 10 years of Liberal government. The No vote used that fear to perfectly sway a majority No vote.
    yes there werent any details about the voice, but this was about constitution, everything in the constitution is very vague and then the government make legislation to enact it, this was the part of voting that neither side was open about.
    It does beg the question though, would the vote have gone differently if it was to just add to the constitution, recognition of the Indigeonous people being the traditional owners, without an enshrined advisory body.

    • @RuthDunstan
      @RuthDunstan 9 місяців тому

      What misinformation, the NO side stated f you don't know what is in it, vote no. Unlike Albo, those who took the trouble to read the 26 page Statement from the Heart, could see it was more than recognition. Just listening to Thomas Pay the Rent Mayo and Megan Davis, one could discern it was about reparations and treaty. I look forward to the audits to find out why Aurukun schoolchildren are underperforming despite the 500milion tipped into Noel Pearson's treasury. I wonder if it is run by the same bozos that spent the 600million for new indigenous housing in the NT and which then Minister Jenny Macklin lauded as a great success despite zero houses being built.

  • @danielsonn3046
    @danielsonn3046 8 місяців тому

    I love nt and majority of indigenous in remote communities either votes yes or didn't bother to vote it was majority of people in the city that voted no

    • @diannesmith2249
      @diannesmith2249 8 місяців тому

      Wrong the city voted yes country people voted no.

    • @danielsonn3046
      @danielsonn3046 8 місяців тому

      @@diannesmith2249 wrong go to remote indiginous communities with the real black fellas in NT and even ask them yourself, not half cast mob down south

  • @jmac1389
    @jmac1389 7 місяців тому

    The Voice would have given Indigenous Australians - and their descendants for all time - a second method of influencing public policy that goes beyond the benefits of representative democracy that are already enjoyed by all citizens regardless of race.
    It would have constitutionalised a lobby group of Indigenous representatives , equipped with a separate bureaucracy, who would have been given the ability to have an additional say on every law and administrative decision, not just those relating specifically to Aborigines and Torres Strait Islanders. Think of it as an indigenous “crown”.

  • @foraustralia2558
    @foraustralia2558 9 місяців тому

    24 hours after the referendum...and WE STIL DONT KNOW WHAT DUTTONS POSITION WAS???
    Flipped and flopped .. .. No wonder he is down in Newspoll 18 points .. despite the referendum

  • @115thames
    @115thames 9 місяців тому

    Guessing that you are a tax payer?

  • @heatherhoward2513
    @heatherhoward2513 9 місяців тому

    10 percsent of the senators are aboriginals, really? Who?

    • @Power_Prawnstar
      @Power_Prawnstar 9 місяців тому +3

      Not hard to google that is it? Cause there's 11 of them.

  • @kungfury5708
    @kungfury5708 9 місяців тому

    'The lucky country' , unless your an Indigenous Aborigine