Mac Mini M2 vs M2 Pro - Unboxing, Comparison, Benchmarks & Review!

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  • Mac Mini M2 vs M2 Pro (2023) - Unboxing, Comparison, Benchmarks, Video Export Test & First Impressions
    The M2 Mac mini & M2 Pro Mac mini are here and in this video, we unbox them, set them up, run some benchmarks and do a 30-minute video export test in Final Cut Pro. Is the $599 Mac mini actually a great bargain, or should you spend up a little bit? Enjoy!
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    0:00 Intro
    0:20 M2 Mac mini Unboxing
    1:40 M2 Pro Mac mini Unboxing
    2:48 Biggest Difference in M2 vs M2 Pro Mac mini
    4:32 Setup Process & Errors
    8:30 Shocking Benchmarks for M2 Mac mini
    10:28 Final Cut Pro video export test
    11:33 Conclusion - should you buy M2 or M2 Pro Mac mini?
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  • @BrandonButch
    @BrandonButch  Рік тому +35

    Would you go for the base model M2 Mac mini? Or is that 256GB SSD a dealbreaker?

    • @kreigerbailey3550
      @kreigerbailey3550 Рік тому +3

      Portland, JAMAICA in the Building!!!

    • @mrparts
      @mrparts Рік тому

      lol Apple surely is loving getting everyone to upgrade storage $$$

    • @dinogiolitti2844
      @dinogiolitti2844 Рік тому

      Minimum 512

    • @RameshKumar-ng3nf
      @RameshKumar-ng3nf Рік тому +4

      I have ordered the regular M2 mac Mini with specs - 24GB RAM , 512 GB SSD storage , 10 GB Ethernet .
      I feel this should be good and also future proof . I dont needed the pro with extra ports & too much power which i am never going to use as per my needs.
      Thanks !

    • @at4237
      @at4237 Рік тому +6

      No, 30% extra isn't worth it unless you're a pro user. It's one of the cheapest Macs ever made, and it's definitely not unusable as people suggest.

  • @RameshKumar-ng3nf
    @RameshKumar-ng3nf Рік тому +37

    Thanks Brandon. you are the first UA-camr i saw who made comparisons on regular Mac mini M2 vs Pro Mac mini M2.
    Rest everybody only talks about pro..pro..pro..pro….
    This video was so helpful for a common man to understand the mini who dosen’t need a pro power. Just needed normal day to day works without any lagging issues.
    Thanks so much for your help 🙏

  • @Whowhatwherewhy
    @Whowhatwherewhy Рік тому +14

    Coming from iPad for years, this is an amazing machine. Got the base model today. Sweet. Totally jazzed to be back on a Mac - mini. Love it. Thanks, Brandon

  • @RaghavVijay
    @RaghavVijay Рік тому +1

    Thanks so much Brandon-I appreciate your efforts,Loved that you showed the read and write speed and ran some benchmarks,really useful!!.Loved the unboxing-Keep up the high quality content!.

  • @mattjamesss1
    @mattjamesss1 Рік тому +2

    Yasss brandon always the best high quality vids:)

  • @RobertoMagnoV
    @RobertoMagnoV Рік тому

    Great video, informative and direct! Thanks!

  • @rodneydangerfield7153
    @rodneydangerfield7153 Рік тому

    Thank you, Brandon, for this great comparison video!...Will wait for M2 Mac Studio...

  • @barbarapavelski8726
    @barbarapavelski8726 Рік тому

    Excellent advice! 👍

  • @leslie1526
    @leslie1526 Рік тому

    Excellent advice

  • @dinogiolitti2844
    @dinogiolitti2844 Рік тому +2

    Monitor recommendations for M2 pro other than the studio display?

  • @ZE_Real_Spacepadrille
    @ZE_Real_Spacepadrille Рік тому +3

    Very good video, thank you! But even after watching it and many others, I still can't choose my Mac Mini. I do professional photo (Lightroom, Photoshop), home studio (Logic Pro + a lot of instruments and sample banks), and 4K video, especially timelapse (Final Cut Pro, LRTimelapse, quickly some After Effects). I have the budget either for a Mac Mini M2 with 24 GB of RAM and 1 TB of SSD, or for the Mac Mini M2 Pro with 16 GB of RAM and 1 TB SSD. What do you advise me? Thank you.

  • @JimboJason
    @JimboJason Рік тому +13

    I personally would like to see an updated review after a few days or weeks of usage. Thanks for the review.

  • @RobertBarnes89
    @RobertBarnes89 Рік тому

    Question the M2 regular, if your monitors were lower resolution such as 1080p, could it support 3 monitors? Or is it capped at 2 monitors regardless of resolution. Thanks!

  • @bdhaliwal24
    @bdhaliwal24 Рік тому +1

    I notice that you kept Filevault disk encryption. How much would this impact SSD throughput benchmarks?

  • @klaymoon1
    @klaymoon1 Рік тому +3

    Great test! Looks like the base M2 (non pro) with 512 GB will be my choice.

  • @danitinoco
    @danitinoco 4 місяці тому +1

    Hey Brandon! Thank you so much for the review. You Rock man! My question is... What if I buy a base model and use an external 1tb SSD drive? would make it any better or worse? Thanks a lot. Greetings from Brazil!

  • @stephaniesribeiroYT
    @stephaniesribeiroYT Рік тому

    Its Stephanie 👋🏻 Can I use the mac mini (m2 pro) with an iMac (m1 chip) instead of the studio display monitor?

  • @Dany6.10.83
    @Dany6.10.83 Рік тому

    So upgrading the ssd size makes the base model faster and performing better? I thought that RAM and the processor are responsible for that. Trying to decide if I should buy the base one with the M2 chip and 512 ssd and 16gb RAM or just get the starting M2 pro one. I do 4 K video editing. Average video lengths so far always around 5 minutes.

  • @minnami778
    @minnami778 Рік тому +2

    The base mini m2 pro is the sweetest spot for me. Its basically all I need from a desktop computer. The price is right and the spec and components are all up to date. I just bought it today🎉

  • @basumatistudio5283
    @basumatistudio5283 Рік тому +1

    Is it compatable with adobe premiere pro

  • @Dejan1996
    @Dejan1996 Рік тому

    Hi Brandon, Dejan here from Slovenia. I currently own 2017 13 MacBook Pro and this year after 4 years of use 13 macbook I decided to Upgrade to 16 M2 PRO MACBOOK and beside that I am currently thinking to buy m2 mac mini with 1 tb ssd for home use, this will be just for basic tasks, do you recommend mac mini m2 or pro version of mac mini just to know..

  • @hummersd
    @hummersd Рік тому

    Is the power cord really at an angle? Presumably because of the curvature. Seems like a very unlike Apple thing to do. Unless maybe it's always been like that? Great vid showing what to get and not get.

  • @rwoeger
    @rwoeger Рік тому +30

    Get the 1TB (or higher) Mac Mini Pro to get 6000 MB/s SSD drive read/write speed, instead of the 3000 MB/s limit on the 512GB Mac Mini M2 Pro model (due to 2 SSD nand chips vs. 4 SSD nand chips on the 1TB Mac Mini M2 Pro model). The base 256GB Mac Mini M2 (non-Pro) only gets a 1,500 MB/s SSD disk speed per your video benchmarks, which is due to Apple using only 1 256GB nand SSD chip in the Mac Mini M2 256GB model. The 512GB Mac Mini M2 (Non Pro) model as well as the 1TB and 2TB models on the Mac Mini M2 (Non Pro) models only get 3,000 MB/s SSD speeds.

    • @TF-mc6yj
      @TF-mc6yj Рік тому

      How fast would 1TB be on the 16GB RAM M2 Mac Mini (non pro)?

    • @HegoDamaskII
      @HegoDamaskII Рік тому

      @@TF-mc6yj Around 3000 Mbps. The regular M2 is half what the M2 Pro would be.

    • @rwoeger
      @rwoeger Рік тому +2

      @@TF-mc6yj It is only 3,000 MB/s read/write on a Mac Mini M2 (Non Pro) model either the 512GB, 1TB, or 2TB. On a Mac Mini M2 Pro model, you get on a 512GB 3,000 MB/s, on a 1TB or more model 6,0000 MB/s. We don't know why the Mac Mini M2 (No Pro) models top off at 3,000 MB/s and the Mac Mini M2 Pro models top off at 6,000 MB/s for sure yet.

    • @SergiuSalcau00
      @SergiuSalcau00 Рік тому +3

      what you gonna use that 6000mb for? really. pay that fkin premium for no reason whatsoever. for 450 euros I can get 6 tb of sandisk external at 2000mb WHICH IS MORE THAN ENOUGH.

  • @carlosps9612
    @carlosps9612 Рік тому +4

    It would be awesome if you could do the same video but comparing the M2 16GB 512 SSD as they are close on the price and I guess that improvements would make the M2 perform better. I'm doubting about that two models

  • @888noreddin
    @888noreddin Рік тому

    I have $2000. Is it recommended to take the highest-spec Mac Mini or go to Mac Studio? what do you think ?

  • @thejordanrafael96
    @thejordanrafael96 Рік тому +1

    I'm a music producer who uses Logic and many other plug-ins so my main concern is CPU and RAM. I can get the M1 Studio and M2 Pro Mini for the same price with the only difference in spec being 10-core CPU on the M1 and 12-core CPU on the M2. Would the 2 core increase be worth losing the ports the studio has? Please help haha

  • @RoboMagician
    @RoboMagician Рік тому

    is there any coil whine or electronic buzz coming from the pro m2 mac mini?

  • @chungnys
    @chungnys Рік тому

    very useful thanks

  • @philippw4282
    @philippw4282 Рік тому

    So the M2 Pro 12C is slower in multicore than the basic M1 Studio (base)? Ive seen different numbers all over.

  • @lucebo335
    @lucebo335 Рік тому

    Hello! In your opinion for user capture one and photoshop, is a Mac mini M2 (base chip) with 24GB RAM and 512 SSD or a Mac mini M2 Pro with 16GB RAM and 512 SSD better?
    Thanks for your comment.

    • @peterh.2488
      @peterh.2488 Рік тому

      I prefer the 24GB RAM. 2 more p cores only help you to work faster. photoshop is sensitive to RAM, 8 GB more RAM will keep your system and workflow fluent.

  • @AbiyBattleSpell
    @AbiyBattleSpell Рік тому +2

    id say fr base upgrading ram is more important. especially student discounts and if u do alot of cloud or external storage. the ssds r fine fr most people but 16 gb ram can make this a 5 yr plus machine instead of a 2-3 yr. and this is really true if ur a heavy multitasker

  • @gunzforarmz
    @gunzforarmz Рік тому

    Would it help to have an external SSD so that the internal SSD only runs the OS?

  • @leodgrafic
    @leodgrafic Рік тому +2

    Thanks for your review. I am a graphic designer and I plan to make the jump to mac with this Mac Mini M2 but I am interested in the 24 gb RAM version with 256 SSD.
    I work with Affinity Designer and for video I use Davinci Resolve (moderate editing) do you consider the 24 GB of ram a good idea?

    • @BrandonButch
      @BrandonButch  Рік тому +2

      I would not. I think if you need more RAM, you should go with the base model M2 Pro with 16GB of RAM and 512GB SSD. If you can stretch your budget a bit further to $1999 though, the base M1 Max Mac Studio is easily the best of the bunch.

    • @TadkaGaming
      @TadkaGaming Рік тому +4

      According to me, yes i will suggest, dont spend too much on studio and stuff, just buy now and upgrade your pc after few years with new technology, i also just ordered 16gb ram with 256gb storage

    • @leodgrafic
      @leodgrafic Рік тому +1

      @@TadkaGaming That is an excellent option, on my current computer with 256 gb SSD I have not filled that main disk as I only have installed programs that I use for work and do not take up much space, because I have another 2TB SSD for heavier files. I plan to use the same configuration the Mac Mini M2. The differences between the M2 and the M2 Pro in the day to day are not so many, only notes when exporting a video and is a difference of 4 min, for my work I do not see it necessary. On the other hand the RAM of 16 GB if I see it something fair and with 24 if I would feel more comfortable and I would save a little. Anyway I will be attentive to the different reviews that come out to get a better idea.

    • @TadkaGaming
      @TadkaGaming Рік тому

      @@leodgrafic yup, ram is more important, if i cant do editing properly in timeline and it taking 20mins more, what's login of rendering it 5mins faster 💀

    • @BrandonButch
      @BrandonButch  Рік тому

      RAM isn’t enough if your read/write speeds aren’t great

  • @TapsaHd
    @TapsaHd Рік тому +3

    Is it possible to get 2k resolution @ 144 Hz on the regular m2 chip?

  • @MentalHeathMatters
    @MentalHeathMatters Рік тому

    I have the LG oled C2 42inch TV and want to get the Mac Mini. Will the base Mac mini M2 output @120hz ?
    Thanks 🙏

    • @tomwilsonn
      @tomwilsonn Рік тому

      No. 60hz only on the m2 model. Need the M2 pro if you want 120hz on your setup.

  • @kahaniguruhindi
    @kahaniguruhindi Рік тому

    Is the mac m2 mini only suitable for web browsing? I mean what about standard photoshop editing, standard video editing in 4k, multitasking, etc? Can I do that? To be honest, neither I’m a heavy content creator nor I’m able to afford higher version.

    • @peterh.2488
      @peterh.2488 Рік тому +1

      At least, 16+256. 8GB RAM is not enough for content creator.

  • @thesacred0ne
    @thesacred0ne Рік тому

    Trying to figure out if I should get the mid range one and upgrade to 24gb RAM and 1TB SSD, over the m2 pro base model. Pricing isn't too different in Australia.

    • @peterh.2488
      @peterh.2488 Рік тому

      For 80% daily usage, there's no difference between m2 base model and m2 pro base model. For me, I went 24 +512 version. I need more ram to run docker and I prefer keep all the all the apps and tabs I need.

  • @pokecuber356
    @pokecuber356 Рік тому

    Can I see another review of these after you have tested it pls

  • @alexblankenship7385
    @alexblankenship7385 Рік тому +1

    I like the M2 Pro 10c /16c with 1TB configuration. What I would've given to have that much performance in 2019 for that price. Would've been nice for Apple to offer Space Gray in the M2 Pro, to make the appearance slightly more distinguishable from the traditional M2 Mini.

  • @ninay7685
    @ninay7685 Рік тому +3

    Hello from france! for me the most important is not the export time (18 or 24 minutes....) but the fact of working smoothly on the timeline (4k 422 10 bit or 6k with panasinic s5 mark II). I think that here it is clearly a lack of ram which slows down or crashes.

    • @ruimonteiro5141
      @ruimonteiro5141 Рік тому +1

      I think for all editors , the export time is the LESS important thing ( I always export in the dead times ) . Like u say the most important thing is the smooth on timeline with heavy files of the new cameras in 2 our 3 video layers , colors correction and some titles .

  • @allanjunli
    @allanjunli Рік тому

    How do I connect to two monitors with dp input?

  • @KoldestMK
    @KoldestMK Рік тому

    So base with external harddrive cool

  • @bladirosario
    @bladirosario Рік тому

    Can the pro handle Warzone C.O.D.?

  • @youyout97
    @youyout97 Рік тому +1

    Do you recommend us to buy Mac mini for gaming ? 12:05

    • @BrandonButch
      @BrandonButch  Рік тому +1

      No. M1 Ultra Mac Studio is the only one I'd consider gaming on

  • @johnrivera2033
    @johnrivera2033 Рік тому

    Does anyone know if this can this run 2 monitors at 165Hz simultaneously?

  • @lepostral
    @lepostral Рік тому +2

    The base model would be a perfect machine for me but no HDMI 2.1 is a dealbreaker for me, damn.

  • @sallybillman3593
    @sallybillman3593 Рік тому

    Can you do a comparison of the M2 Pro versus the MacBook Pro?

  • @tms0815g
    @tms0815g Рік тому +1

    Is the 16GB M2 Pro ok or is there also some kind of speed bottleneck compared to the 32?

    • @LinkerMLin
      @LinkerMLin Рік тому

      MacStudio with 32GB DRAM is better choice

  • @JacobAU
    @JacobAU Рік тому

    Are you going to do a video on the new MacBook Pros too?

  • @johnprosser2142
    @johnprosser2142 Рік тому +13

    I am absolutely appalled at the solid state drive speeds! I have an M1 Mac mini with 8 GB of memory and 256 GB of storage on my speeds are 2286.3 Write and 2946.7 Read!

    • @hansdailyfashion
      @hansdailyfashion Рік тому +1

      So this means the M2 base model is a downgrade? Hmm 🤔

    • @renegademuse
      @renegademuse Рік тому

      @@hansdailyfashion seems to be the consensus according to many other reviews, esp with basemodel. Doubling storage with 8GB memory results in dramatic slowdown.

  • @dinogiolitti2844
    @dinogiolitti2844 Рік тому +1

    Main difference between upgrading to 512 vs say a 1 TB external ssd? I assume read/write speed?

  • @truthseeker36
    @truthseeker36 Рік тому +1

    I'm trying to decided Apple M2 chip with 8-core CPU, 10-core GPU, vs Apple M2 Pro chip with 12-core CPU, 19-core GPU. My purpose is for video editing. which do you think would work best?

    • @peterh.2488
      @peterh.2488 Рік тому

      Video editing, go with pro chips

  • @Goaltimer
    @Goaltimer Рік тому +3

    They didn't add a SD slot because many of the potential customers for the mini don't use SD cards. No need to increase the price for such a slot. Most use the phone as camera and don't use cameras with SD cards anymore. I didn't use SD cards for over 5 years already. For those still using these cards can use an adapter or buy the studio.

    • @jennasimms2721
      @jennasimms2721 Рік тому +2

      I agree with you on the base model. But for the pro model, while I like the 2 extra TB ports, they really should have included an SD slot as well.

  • @zeknoss
    @zeknoss Рік тому

    "Just skip the entry model and pay twice the price to get 35% more speed". Great advice, thx!

  • @peteherrera1502
    @peteherrera1502 Рік тому

    You should had shown the cinebench being run on both mac mini machines at the same time

  • @gunzforarmz
    @gunzforarmz Рік тому

    I have a used Alienware with 4 TB and 16 GB Ram and spent less than 1k. It's a beast.

  • @theebluess
    @theebluess Рік тому

    is going for the 512gb than 16gb ram a better option for the base mini?

    • @peterh.2488
      @peterh.2488 Рік тому +4

      The answer is you need BOTH of them.

  • @alexandrgarlock4075
    @alexandrgarlock4075 Рік тому +1

    Picked up the base for $499 student discount. Replaced my mac mini 2014. 1600mbs is plenty for a server and general use. You should not discard is just because it does not fit your needs. 256GB is plenty for most people buying this device.

    • @BrandonButch
      @BrandonButch  Рік тому

      Exactly, just depends on your use case!

  • @M365ITTuts
    @M365ITTuts Рік тому +5

    Still a shame that Apple intentionally degrades customer experience with these cheap tricks. So if you spend extra money on the base M2 model to upgrade to 512gb, all of sudden you gain ssd speed too? How does that makes sense? It's perfectly possible to put a 256gb ssd with the same speed as 512 or 1tb but, apple being apple, they have to show that base model is restricted.

    • @RedJaySC
      @RedJaySC 4 місяці тому

      Been researching these for my own use - the 512 has TWO SSDs so can pull higher read/write speeds due to avoiding bottleneck. Not saying pricing good or bad just explaining.

  • @iWeaverOS
    @iWeaverOS Рік тому

    Now I'm stuck between Mac Studio base Max vs M2 Pro w/16gb...

  • @jirikasal3302
    @jirikasal3302 Рік тому

    How many hz i can get over thunderbolt 4 on 1080 or 1440? And is there any difference betwen base and pro in thunderbolt?

  • @norbeartist
    @norbeartist Рік тому +4

    I’d have compared the same configurations (512\16) to see the difference between the chips… This doesn’t make any sense imho.

  • @YVBSV
    @YVBSV Рік тому

    The amount of times you say Mac miniiiiiiiis 😂

  • @RealJoseph123
    @RealJoseph123 Рік тому +7

    256GB on a desktop is crazy… The SSD speeds is the final nail in the coffin. Don’t do it to yourself, get a 512GB SSD minimum. You’ll need it later down the road. It’s like 32GB iPads when Apple used to sell those in the late 2010s.

    • @BrandonButch
      @BrandonButch  Рік тому +3

      Yep!

    • @Marquetica
      @Marquetica Рік тому

      I got a 128gb MacBook 😅😅 so lame

    • @ross4
      @ross4 Рік тому +3

      But why, when I can use an external SSD via thunderbolt?

    • @at4237
      @at4237 Рік тому +2

      But unlike the iPad, you don't need to carry your external storage around, and the operating system is actually capable of treating external storage as a place to install and run applications.

    • @leodgrafic
      @leodgrafic Рік тому

      The ideal would be a combo between the internal hard drive of the Mac Mini with 256 SSD to install the programs and opt for jobs or files in general an external SDD of 1 TB or more in a dock. Letting a hard drive have all the information and programs is not ideal.

  • @duntrolling8876
    @duntrolling8876 7 місяців тому

    I was all set to buy the M2 with memory and storage upgrades (16/512) as it would be BTO the wait time was a few weeks. and the price 999. Last Sunday at work on nights I had a look at the Apple refurb store and they had an M2 Pro on sale for 1189. delivery (they said) on Wednesday. I thought about it for a few hours and placed the order. Delivery then changed to Tuesday. Once the order was finalised though with the payment made. Delivery changed to next day... or rather the same day. Monday. and it arrived almost 8 hours later. I thought this was great and Im very pleased. Obviously it's been through the refurb process so has been thoroughly tested and that's a big confidence boost. Im very happy. What did it replace? a 2012 Mac mini i7 2.6, a great machine that has served me well for 11 years.

  • @szijjartos
    @szijjartos Рік тому +2

    First! Haha, I opened UA-cam and saw “0 seconds ago” 😂

  • @savedfaves
    @savedfaves Рік тому +1

    If you are getting the M2 Pro you need to upgrade the SSD (which we've no found out you do; not just on the non-Pro chip) you are better off in that case buying the Mac Studio. For anyone curious the M2 Pro write/read speeds are 20%/40% slower than the M1 Pro speeds at 512 GB. You need to go up to the 1 TB model to get the faster SSD speeds when you chose the M2 Pro model, thereby making the model hard to recommend over the Mac Studio. Either go for the M2 mini with 512 GB, or just go for the Mac Studio.

    • @sharpeknight7403
      @sharpeknight7403 Рік тому

      Hi ! what about the M2 16gb 1To vs M2 PRO 16gb 512go ? Only thoses 2 are available for me.. I need a new computdr for music production !

  • @steviegbcool
    @steviegbcool Рік тому

    just wait for the m2 mac studio

  • @johnf1981
    @johnf1981 Рік тому

    I have the base model M1 mac mini. Was going to upgrade to base model M2. Am i better just keeping my M1 mini for another coupke of years? I just do basic tasks. No video editing etc. Thanks.

    • @tk6105
      @tk6105 Рік тому

      等m3

    • @luxurybuzz3681
      @luxurybuzz3681 Рік тому +1

      Just keep the M1

    • @at4237
      @at4237 Рік тому +1

      I personally wouldn't even consider upgrading. Even if it was slightly better, would you even be able to tell a difference? Going from an Intel Mac Mini is a way different story.

    • @darrenjk5438
      @darrenjk5438 Рік тому

      Keep M1

    • @jennasimms2721
      @jennasimms2721 Рік тому

      M3 is rumored to be a big jump. Just wait.

  • @Ross_YT84
    @Ross_YT84 Рік тому +1

    Would this work for being a gaming youtuber? if so which one is better for that?

    • @BrandonButch
      @BrandonButch  Рік тому

      You mean actually playing games? M2 pro for sure

    • @Ross_YT84
      @Ross_YT84 Рік тому +1

      @@BrandonButch Sorry, I should have been more specific. I mean using an elgato capture card with switch. I'm guessing pro would still be better?

    • @UltraJamZHD
      @UltraJamZHD Рік тому +1

      @@Ross_YT84 I’d like to know too

    • @Ross_YT84
      @Ross_YT84 Рік тому

      @@UltraJamZHD I ended up doing a lot of research, and I'm 99% positive it is good for creating a channel like ZackScottGames and others like that.☺ Not sure if that helps, but hopefully it did. Also I learned that 16GB of ram is good for that sort of use for a computer.

    • @UltraJamZHD
      @UltraJamZHD Рік тому

      @@Ross_YT84 yhhh I figured 16GB would be the way but at that point might aswel get m2 pro then

  • @MrHenkfromHolland
    @MrHenkfromHolland Рік тому

    The base model
    You can buy for a few dollars an external drive

  • @ross4
    @ross4 Рік тому +46

    Apple definitely did this on purpose, making it seem like a good value but baiting anyone who cares about tech into upgrading.

    • @BrandonButch
      @BrandonButch  Рік тому +31

      I don't see it that way. I see it as a good value for a very average consumer who doesn't do anything but web browse

    • @ross4
      @ross4 Рік тому +15

      Sure, but Apple isn’t upfront about the fact that purchasing the higher capacity also gives faster storage. By making that an additional $200, people like me will pay for the upgrade when I would’ve otherwise bought the base model. It’s just a clever product ladder on their part.

    • @wds3222
      @wds3222 Рік тому +4

      @@ross4 heard of return policy? Dont act like you cant return it if you dont like it.

    • @ross4
      @ross4 Рік тому +2

      @@wds3222 Who said I don’t like it? Apple is smart, making one that’s $200 more that’s the “good” one. That’s the one I got.

    • @fightnight14
      @fightnight14 Рік тому +6

      That’s all the companies out there

  • @dleetrini
    @dleetrini Рік тому

    Do you know if upgrading the M2 Pro from 512 GB to 1 TB will result in faster disk speeds?

    • @ArkleyBarnet
      @ArkleyBarnet Рік тому

      Ditto, was mentioned elsewhere (Max Tech) that instead of paying extra to increase the SSD from 512GB to 1TB, it's more cost effective to get an external SSD for the price difference.
      Confused now as Mac Mini M2 Pro at 512GB SSD is about 3,000 MB/s. (2 x 256GB SSD nand chip)
      Mac Mini M2 Pro at 1TB SSD is about 6,000 MB/s. (4 x 256GB SSD nand chip).
      As a Noob, How does the 512GB external SSD fit in with times?

    • @ghost-user559
      @ghost-user559 Рік тому +2

      @@ArkleyBarnet The 512 would be more than fine for most people. 256 is probably too small. Some apps require being installed on the internal, and an ssd should always have 10% empty to run smoothly and last longer. So a 512 means you subtract 50GB, a 1TB means you subtract 100GB, and a 256 means you leave 25GB free. A single MacOS update might take 50 GB free to install it even though it only takes up 10-15 GB. Overall anything more than 256 is the way to go for the average person. 1 TB minimum for people editing videos or programming or making music. You can get away with 512 if you buy an external ssd storage drive.

    • @ArkleyBarnet
      @ArkleyBarnet Рік тому

      @@ghost-user559 Thanks for that info, appreciated.

  • @seethruhead7119
    @seethruhead7119 Рік тому

    Not helpful at all. Who would cross shop the cheapest in each?
    I want to know how the 24GB m2 fares against the 16 or 32 m2 pro...

  • @Marquetica
    @Marquetica Рік тому

    I want to buy a new Mac because mine from 2017 doesn’t support Ventura, therefore Freeform isn’t available. I thought I’d get MacBook Air 2022 and I started considering this mini since it came out but I don’t get why it’s cheap like that. Still, it’s mini so the size isn’t convenient to me

    • @michaeljarcher
      @michaeljarcher Рік тому

      it can run ventura, check online how to do it, I run a mac min 2013 with Ventura and works fine on a SSD and 16G memory. But it will soon be replaced with a M2 pro.

    • @Marquetica
      @Marquetica Рік тому +1

      @@michaeljarcher does it have graphic problems or any complications? I saw how people sort of complained about complications. I am not sure if I want to proceed like this. Besides, I am a female, so I don't want to mess up the installation lol

  • @OneBadAssDJ
    @OneBadAssDJ Рік тому

    M1 SSD speeds on my 2tb are insane 3000 write and 2900 read

  • @luxurybuzz3681
    @luxurybuzz3681 Рік тому +1

    How will the base M2 do with 4k video editing?

    • @at4237
      @at4237 Рік тому

      Based on what I've seen, if you use ProRes, the dedicated encoder performs the same regardless. If you use something else, there will probably be a difference.

    • @luxurybuzz3681
      @luxurybuzz3681 Рік тому

      @at4237 I have a 2012 MacBookPro.
      Only problem with it is that it takes 1 hour render time for 5 minutes of 4k footage.
      Is a base M2 Mac mini worth an upgrade? Hoe much faster will it be?

    • @at4237
      @at4237 Рік тому

      @@luxurybuzz3681 I think you'll notice a bigger difference from a 2012 MBP to the base Mac Mini vs a higher end model. If you want to keep it a long time, you might consider upgrading the specs, but I would personally save the money, trade it in and buy an M4/M5/M6 model for the same price in the future, probably with higher base specs and substantially faster.

    • @luxurybuzz3681
      @luxurybuzz3681 Рік тому

      @@at4237 genius

  • @koinyc
    @koinyc Рік тому

    You don't mind test it on games

  • @akin242002
    @akin242002 7 місяців тому

    The M2 Mini Pro are for the semi-heavy-duty tasks. Professional video editors doing 8k video exporting and rendering, 3D animation, or Machine Learning on AWS. Maybe with a spec bump to 32GB of RAM and 1TB of SSD.
    The base M2 Mac Mini with a spec bump (16/512GB) is for everyone else.

  • @diineshmusic
    @diineshmusic Рік тому +1

    M1 has two 128gb disks inside.that make the speed of 3gb/s. M2 need to have mininum 512gb with sticks of two 128gb storage

  • @Bo_Hazem
    @Bo_Hazem Рік тому +3

    Actually a $2200 Mac Mini (12-core CPU/19-core GPU/32GB RAM/1TB SSD) is a much better deal and better overall than $2200 Mac Studio M1 Max (10-core CPU/24-core GPU/32GB RAM/1TB SSD). Even the $2400 version with 35-core GPU is an equivalent of 22.4-core M2 which is according to Apple around 10-20% better than M2 Pro in video editing. The Neural Engine is also 40% better on M2. It's a confusing buy but a Mac Studio M2 Max would solve this all hopefully later this year, but the Mac Mini M2 Pro at $2000 specs is just better than base Mac Studio M1 Max overall.

  • @AntonioLopez-2050
    @AntonioLopez-2050 Рік тому +1

    Im going with an m2 but with 24 GB .. and SSD is not a problem better use a thunderbolt 4 2 tbytes M2 and dont pay 1000$ more for long the same m2pro is good but near to 60% more expensive for a 25/30% more speed ..

  • @RafsGearReviews
    @RafsGearReviews Рік тому +1

    Just bought an m2 base mac mini. Seeing comments on write speed for the ssd and whatnot. I want it for basic 1080p video editing for UA-cam guitar reviews through Final Cut/Imovie and some basic music recording with Garageband or other DAWs. Did I buy the wrong one or will this work just fine? Is it a HUGE performance difference from the 256 to the 512? I can't upgrads the ram because I used Amazon GC balance for it. Thanks.

    • @MyJayK
      @MyJayK Рік тому +3

      Just buy a external SSD that you use for your video clips. As you "only" edit 1080p clips the speed in the base model will be fast as most YT reviewers show 4k benchmarks.
      But all depends on your needs in the end and how much money you can afford.
      I use a base M1 MacMini (8GB/256GB) with a external Samsung SSD and sometimes edit 1080p videos for fun and I feel it is fast enought without any problems in FCP. The internal SSD is for me only used for the system and apps and external drives for everything else.

    • @RafsGearReviews
      @RafsGearReviews Рік тому

      @@MyJayK That's what was thinking. I'm new to the mac world but thought about getting one of these hubs where you can add an ssd to it and get front facing ports.

    • @MyJayK
      @MyJayK Рік тому +1

      @@RafsGearReviews Welcome to the mac world. I use both Mac and Windows and love the simplicity of the mac more. It may take some time to adjust to the change, just remember to be open minded and the change will come quick.
      The new generation of Macs with M-processors are really quick and get alot the money. I myself are not dependent on maximum speed and the M1 is enough power at the moment.
      Just remember the throughput speed of the hub, as it can affect the speed.

    • @MyJayK
      @MyJayK Рік тому +1

      @@RafsGearReviews Of topic, but I had a quick look at your channel and your latest video. Video looks great but I noticed that the sound is a little out of sync.

    • @RafsGearReviews
      @RafsGearReviews Рік тому +1

      @@MyJayK Thanks man and I look forward to doing this on a computer. Have been doing everything on the same phone I record with. And yeah, on my last video I had to separate audio and video for a part of the clip and I didn't realize I had that segment out of sync. I fixed it after but I guess YT forces you to reupload. I'll probably do that at some point.
      Thanks for the advice man. I just want this mac to step into this world and see how I feel about it. I think I'll get a dock with an external ssd and hopefully get some good use out of it for the next 2-3 years or so and maybe by then, if I'm really into it and the channel grows, I'll look at upgrading.

  • @eprohoda
    @eprohoda Рік тому

    buddy-Hey, excellent footage! adios!:))

  • @JoseDiaz-qw7mg
    @JoseDiaz-qw7mg Рік тому +2

    The $599 mac mini shows how overpriced the m2 mba really is. In comparison, you’re paying $600 more for a 13’ lcd 60hz screen and way less ports just for the sake of portability. I would choose the mac mini over the m2 mba any day of the week

    • @jelliottlein
      @jelliottlein Рік тому

      Battery. Trackpad. Keyboard with Touch ID. Retina screen (24” 4K minimum for desktop to be same doubled-pixel depth, or 27” 5K). Add ALL those costs up since none are included with the Mini. They are simply different machines with different use cases and have similar prices in the end.

  • @marksaxon
    @marksaxon Рік тому +1

    Just like the M2 MBP's, the SSD speeds are terrible. Also surprised with the R23 benchmarks. These are desktops with more breathing room than a laptop. Sure they will get the job done but Apple sure does love charging folks premium pricing for storage upgrades.

  • @dough.9241
    @dough.9241 Рік тому

    @4:44 M1 Mini does NOT support two 6K displays… only one 6K and one 5K, both over Thunderbolt. The M1 Pro Mini does support 2 6K monitors, however, both over Thunderbolt.

  • @UtubeAdviser
    @UtubeAdviser Рік тому +2

    i order the mac mini 2 but i upgraded it to 512Gb and also upgraded the ram to 16 Gb My total with tax was $1068.93

    • @peterh.2488
      @peterh.2488 Рік тому

      You made a good decision. In fact, the base model of m2 should be 16+512 from 999.

    • @jpesicka999
      @jpesicka999 Рік тому +1

      @@peterh.2488 + tax but if u can get education discount it’s only $955 total.

  • @wds3222
    @wds3222 Рік тому +1

    even that 512gb speed is slower compared to the 512gb in the past. Its like Apple just decided to downgrade the 256 and 512 all together.

  • @deavo74
    @deavo74 Рік тому +1

    256Gb not enough for “most” people? Why do all the tech people assume this? Plus there is something called “external storage” which is sooo much cheaper. I think for the people this is aimed at then the 256Gb and the read/write speeds will be more than enough for “most” people.

  • @stanleynowak9325
    @stanleynowak9325 Рік тому +1

    One color is enough. How much inventory can a Manufacturer have? The I Mac is different so is the I Phone. Those are more consumer driven.

    • @BrandonButch
      @BrandonButch  Рік тому

      I just think a black version for the Pro model would be cool

    • @stanleynowak9325
      @stanleynowak9325 Рік тому

      @@BrandonButch No doubt it would be. As a former stereo speaker manufacturer all I can tell you is that the more inventory a manufacturer has the harder it is to get product delivered to consumers on time. With supply chain issues and a chip shortage to have double the inventory on the best selling desktop would be a mistake.

  • @cbatchler
    @cbatchler Рік тому

    The way you were touching the Mac Mini's at 11:56 is kinda creappy and I had to look away...🤨

  • @petrzurek5713
    @petrzurek5713 Рік тому

    Man, put some charts into the video to better communicate the comparison

  • @davidjamescomedy4152
    @davidjamescomedy4152 Рік тому +1

    This is disappointing, out of curiosity, just ran blackmagic on my 256 GB M1 mac mini, and got around 2200 write and 2900 read

  • @cdotwu
    @cdotwu Рік тому

    First! 256GB SSD is a deal breaker..

  • @MCC0NN377
    @MCC0NN377 Рік тому

    OR get the M2 Mini, Upgrade to 16GB Ram, 512GB Storage. And its still $400 less than the M2 pro and probably performs almost the exact same.

  • @Stubbla
    @Stubbla Рік тому

    I have the 2016 Mac Mini, and since they still look exactly the same, I am just going to stick with it.

    • @techwithtyler20
      @techwithtyler20 Рік тому +1

      2014 was dropped with macOS 12, so updates will stop this year.

    • @ghost-user559
      @ghost-user559 Рік тому

      @@techwithtyler20 Doesn’t matter at all. My 2012 MacBook Pro can upgrade to Ventura/Monterrey with a patcher. A 2014 can definitely last another 2-4 years of OS updates at this rate.

  • @Norbitek25
    @Norbitek25 Рік тому

    Even the base model is more than sufficient for most people. Why do reviewers push the silly priced upgrades? Anyone knows?

  • @BlueTenorSax
    @BlueTenorSax Рік тому

    Is 1TB much faster than 512GB?

  • @ps3301
    @ps3301 Рік тому

    16g version is better than more storage