"I'm Not Going To Be Charitable" - Destiny Reacts To Vaush & MrGrirl Debate
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- Destiny reacts to "The Debate So Vile I Had To End It"
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#Destiny #Vaush #MrGirl - Ігри
Mr Girl actually is what most of the internet THINKS Vaush is.
Except the horse thing, that part is real.
I'm pretty sure vaush is a grade-a grifter, so if that's what mr grill is then so be it.
Out of curiosity did you mean that in a good way or a bad way? I don't have a good sense of what most of the internet thinks of Vaush. (Genuine question).
Vaush is literally what Mr girl is. Stop the pedo defending.
@@Norrieification It's a negative thing. Vaush has A LOT of haters, and it's almost common in a leftist place that most people woll think he's a pedo.
Vaush: it's good to identify and separate good and bad things.
Destiny: what a stupid point, everyone does that.
Mr girl: I don't do that.
Destiny was missing the convo to look for digs at Vaush.
You didn’t watch the video
I think Vaush is probably the strongest person he's debated and that makes D infinitely salty forever. Destiny usually steamrolls people in debates and I mean I don't think Vaush really won any debate with him but neither did Destiny really. It was always immovable object meeting unstoppable force and completely unwatchable.
Either way you're right Destiny is just spite watching and trying to find any reason why Vaush = bad, even if it means defending the most p3d0philic man in the world
@@welcometothemonkeyapezone7797 I feel like Destiny has won some of them, like the fascist president thing was really funny.
I swear Destiny is jealous of Vaush
@@Olivetree80 I'm finding more and more D only cares about being the smartest guy in the room. Usually that's fine, it leads him the work really hard to support his positions. But sometimes you get this.
As an ex heroin addict, I can confirm it changes you. 12 yrs sober & it still effects me every day.
Welcome to the land of the living from the perspective of the dead
@@lindboknifeandtool more true than anyone could possibly understand. Unless you've been there...
Damn. Good job for the soberiety. I hope things are all fine for you now. Or at least mostly.
Is heroin that good?
@@KennedyIvy yes, yes it is. Well, depending on the product. I always got really good quality tar. None of the powder bullshit. The rush from a good hit, omg, the best fucking feeling in the world
Looking back on this with hindsight, it's amazing how prescient this VOD is. You get to see Mr Girl's entire range of meta-argument style and rising rage as he decides a discussion partner isn't dealing fairly with him ultimately ending in a deliberately vile bridge burn, Vaush commit himself to people having Lolli is "sussi" and then being caught with it on his own computer, and Destiny watching two INCREDIBLY toxic people he signal boosted and supported who both turned on him for different grudges.
saying mrgirl turned on destiny is not my perspective. destiny allowed his mod to become power hungry based on a personal grudge against mrgirls style/communication on the reddit. mrgirl rightfully didnt let this go and refused to submit to the system destiny built, destiny subsequently hid behind the moderator to not have to take responsibility even though he hired the mod himself and gave exactly those powers to the moderator. the entire narrative that everyone turns on destiny is very telling in my opinion. when someone hates you, they might be wrong, but when everyone hates you then its getting more fair to say that youre the problem. destiny seems to be the one with the self fufilling prophecy of people stabbing him in the back, in reality i think he invites and facilitates it himself and then uses that events to play the victim
@@subzero-v6h He objectively turned on Destiny. You can argue that he was justified to do so, either over Fuentes or the subsequent Reddit shitstorm Max insisted on inciting, but you have to concede he went from "Steven I love you" to "Steven is Harvey Weinstein and I must destroy him." The fact is that Max is unable to handle any disagreement or criticism; he's more than willing to viciously attack people, but then plays the "I'm a very sensitive warrior" card to hide from the backlash. I'm no Destiny simp; as a conservative I'll be the first to state he is largely driven by his hatreds and is more than willing to empty the proverbial silos at people who cross his (often nebulous) redlines, but to pretend that he didn't treat Max with kid gloves over this is insane. He had multiple conversations about Max's arguments, brought the Mod on to debate the issues with the (as you admit, Destiny-owned and run) subreddit, and then AGAIN to listen to him argue for hours that Max should be allowed to continue to ragebait in the subreddit despite admitting he knew it was feeding the flames. Max was told explicitly that if he could simply stop inciting that dumb "war" he declared for 3 days it would all dissipate and he would be welcomed back, but he just couldn't do it. If you can really look back on all those conversations and his post-"Report" meltdowns with softballers like Whick, far-rights like The Crucible, and even the rabidly anti-Destiny mole Pres Sunday and still think Max is a hapless victim all I can say is I'm glad you enjoy the taste of the Kool Aid.
Destiny defending Mrgirl for so long until he was only a problem for him specifically is the perfect example of how unprincipled and spite based he actually is
Any clip of Vaush summarizing any of Destiny’s positions would be a solid example of how unprincipled and deceptive Vaush is
@@benjamindover8221cope
Hilarious that now Destiny saying he thinks Max is a rapist. Even more hilarious that he'll never admit how embarrassing it is that he defended him for so long.
what are you on about? lmao
@@silversalmon9909 destiny changed his views on max after the bridge burned
its pretty clear what happened he defended max one week next he called him a rapist
@@michealjaymurphy obviously? Any sane person should do the same.
If someone reveals their character to you it will make you think differently about them.
A friend makes racist jokes all the time, and it's funny. Then you see them beat a black person for no reason. Now they're no longer your friend, and those jokes are no longer funny.
You would do the same as destiny if a friend revealed their character. You'd re-examine their past
It's funny to see Destiny being so late on judging people's character.
mrgirl is great
He always is
@@shiiswii4136get some help
@@shiiswii4136 No he is not
yeah he is and he was right @@DavisJ-ln6fw
Isn't it incredible how Vaush easily saw through Mr Girl but destiny was eager to embrace and defend him. 🤣
Vaush didn’t see anything, his unconscious cloud of au***m is what defeated max
Makes sense, as a viewer of both Vaush's biggest problem is how he jumps to the most uncharitable possible conclusions of people he dosent like, Destiny's biggest problem is that he views the people he likes with rose tinted glasses and ignores colossal red flags.
Yeah, that didn't age well did it? It is even more obvious now that Vaush just used the opportunity to label someone as pedo to make himself look good, now with the loli folder leak. No way that fucker was outraged by what MrGirl said, pure virtue signaling.
Isn't it incredible how Vaush is worse than Mr Girl
@@sernoddicusthegallant6986 dr K the best example of this
destiny glazes dr k
Mr. Girl says: “I think we should empathize and not say fuck Nazis.” Man he really changed that stance huh lol
Lol yeah, I think its also because Mr.Girls puts a lot of importance on his feelings and that changed his view, I think.
Still like Mr.Girl his blunt approach to conversation always makes an entertaining conversation
@@WUTTeon yeah, but he is too emotional not truly trying to logically understand that calling nick a Nazi isn’t going to convince nick or his audience to come back to the light side of the force.
@@Psycholosopher 100% agree, I dont even think Nick could be considered a nazi. Maybe a fascist but thats about it.
@@WUTTeon yeah he doesn’t call for genocide, isn’t (in my opinion) Uber anti-semite, and doesn’t believe in an aryan superiority (but does a white superiority).
I think his particular issue with Destiny wasn't that he empathized with Nick, and more that he opened his house to him. Which I still disagree is necessarily a bad thing (I think open acts of trust towards an opponent is probably one of the best ways to get them to be more open with their actual feelings and intentions, and thus find the root of the issue) but it's certainly different from Mr Girl abandoning his empathy. He's still acting in ways that are very clearly empathetic towards fringe political ideologies -- at least as far as I've seen recently.
One of these two men is honest.
I wonder what Mr. Girl thought congress was arguing about during the mid 1800's.
There were tons of debates, protests, speeches, etc. over the issue of slavery. The state legislatures argued about it also. War wasn't the failure. War was the consequence of the failure of our government to find a peaceful way to end slavery.
It is hilarious to watch this video after everything that happened
Wat had happin was? mhmmm
Ah now it makes sense Destiny why he gave this guy so much good faith he broke his back
Mr girl debates vuajd and destiny rea to
Thanks
Ikr
TRUE LULW
@@ethan6036 thank you.
@@locus17 you're welcome
The fact you had a good idea for that Space Ghost reference, and you corrected yourself owning up to botching the reference gets a solid respect from me.
I feel like Mr. Girl is super dishonest but instead of defending himself he just does it to be more vile. I don't get why Destiny is impressed with him.
What do you mean with more vile?
If he is dishonest give him his oscar now cause he has had this act perfected to a t. He has been in on this act for over 2 years, has consistent claims through out these 2 years many of them can be confirmed by outside sources like police and news headlines and other people around him. I think he is just a decent guy who disturbed and has a confrontational and honest personality which ends up having him expose his disturbed side.
He is like a mental exhibitionist.
@@artisanmage5378 A part of me thinks that a lot of the people who think MrGirl is bad faith or genuinely creepy are only used to talking with neurotypical people with very socially acceptable personas which MrGirl certainly doesn't have. That is however just my intuition.
@@joewesterland5697 you mean normal people who aren't crazy? Yeah go figure
I will agree that the p 3 do jokes were bad and he shouldn't have done them, if not out of bad taste then at least because vaush was already having a hard time discussing the issue and some p 3 do jokes certainly wouldn't have helped. Other than that though what do you have to say that he is a p 3 do? If you, vaush, or vgg gets so insanely uncomfortable discussing what we think americas age preference is.... isnt that really really bad? If we cant even discus what we think the average American man wants age-wise without getting defensive and trying to point fingers than that is NOT GOOD and scary. All mr girl was doing was setting up a hypothetical to try and show what age men want. How is that bad? Again the jokes I think were bad taste but other than that I think it is a very interesting and almost necessary conversation to have. Vaush said 14-17, mr girl said 14-15, the difference being that when mr girl said that vasuh immediately jumped out of the hypothetical and started blaming him of pdf filia, essentially saying "do you think 14-15 because of your empathy with p 3 dos or because you are a p3 do" but couldnt mr girl have done the same thing? I mean after all vaush and him and the same numbers how is he any different? But thats not even the point, the point is that it was never about their individual preferences but the preferences of society vuash's defensiveness only shows how he cant handle converstaions like these.
On the point of bad faith, how was mr girl bad faith? He bit every bullet in the hopes of moving the conversation forward while vaush debated the semantics of every hypothetical for 10 minutes. Mr girl, to me, seemed to be trying to have a conversation while vaush was trying not to get trapped.
“Hate is a really great shortcut to critical thinking”
- some chick
that intro aged well
"World renowned horsefucker" lmao
I respect you alot destiny, but You're kind of overvaluing your own importance when you say stuff like "I know he got this from me" The second vaush said that I went to three arrows & literally any reading on the Weimar republic, that's not some uncommon belief lmao
1:15:41 LMAO Mr Girl leg sweeping destiny
Maybe I'm just super out of touch, and haven't seen a 15 year old girl in a long time.
But I'm 28 right now, and on dating apps, I instantly reject everyone under 23, and might visibly gag at the thought of being with anyone 20 or younger, just from a "looks prospective".
I might acknowledge that someone 20 or younger is attractive. But "optimal attractiveness"? Probably like 26-34. And that's not just because it's my current age range.
What are you? A commie? There isnt a single woman on earth who is more attractive at 30 than she was at 20.
@@nathanpapp432Nah, he is just a normal human who isn't stuck in his college years
Something about MrGirl's cadence & tone & pacing really brings out Vaush's sophist aesthetic
"I find that tenuous at best" - phrases like that are exactly what crosses my mind when I hear the F slur
… Fa##ot ?
Why would it remind you of that ?
Funny how he dropped all this when it came to Destiny talking to Fuentes.
Typo in the title
Destiny's obsession with Vaush So Entertaining 😄
Destiny is simply wrong about the vax.
28:30 not only does it change the actor acting, but it also changes their baselines and inclinations.
Bro if you didnt hate Walter White for the entirety of Breaking Bad after like episode 3, I seriously doubt your ability to interpert art or judge peoples character
The more you understand Walter Whites motivation, the more despicable he is. If I read his story in a history book, I would think he is a bad person who wanted power
If you watch the show, you realise his reasons for some of his worst actions are just from petty grievances and pathetic narcissism and it makes it 1000x worse. Understanding why he does what he does, allowing yourself to feel what he feels for a moment, reveals how utterly pathetic he is.
Empathy can easily make you like someone less. I feel like this should uncontroversial tbh
YES
Especially since the show allows you to have empathy for people like Skyler, Hank, Marie, even people involved like Saul, jesse, and Mike. Walter is squarely in the gus/hector/Salamanca sphere - guys who just fuck everything up for everyone else because they're on their own delusional quests for power
I love the show, and went into it expecting to sympathize with Walter only to detest him almost immediately, and moreso whenever he had chances to get out or do right by people but just chose not to. Great show, great characters. But yeah Walter White is no idol, at any point.
At 1:15:41 Mr Girl doesn’t contradict Destiny. He says “he doesn’t distinguish between good and bad things as much as Vaush” not that he doesn’t do it at all
It’s so obvious Destiny is intellectually threatened by Vaush
lol
plastics and heavy metals can stay in your body for a long time.
Sick debat
🦇
Debats? BatChest
What game is destiny playing?
Dyson Sphere. It's incredible.
Spite.
God I hate that name consensual non consent. Just call it pretend rape or edgy role play ffs.
but word make feel bad :(
@@thegwangster9097 huh?
I'd agree but if the term is too similar it has the potential to muddy or dilute the original word for the real thing.
Why though? I imagine there would probably be people who are into that, who like the ‘meta idea’ of doing seemingly non consensual acts with someone consensually. But, they don’t like the idea of literal non consensual acts. Therefore, it would be more representative to call it consensual non consent. Though, this is purely guesswork.
@@globalamoeba8910 the oxymoron irritates me.
Vaush's loli argument aged well
1:21:30 Min.... Dude all your girls, look like 16, are you kiddin me.
Wonder what Destiny thinks of Vaush's opinion on MrGirl nowadays. Where did all that "bites the bullet" memery go?
is it possible to implement sexual maturity into someone who isn't physiologically prepared yet!?
Sounds like grooming
wtf is this question. red flag.
The replies🤣🤣🥲
BASED QUESTION
1:53:03 I immediately thought of the RGR debate as well, goddamn Vaush has no consistent principles it's extremely frustrating
Yes he does
This triggers me so much, esp because I have vaushs glorious past in mind 🤢
what do you mean?
thom in background
1:31:36 Vaush’s take here could just as easily be applied to trans people, but he would never dare do so.
?
You’re gonna have to explain that, chief.
@@italianwaffle5592 You a baby brain?
Vaush never directly implied that everything socially non-normative is necessarily destructive and harmful, although he said that pedophilia is indeed both.
that would only be the case if you were a transphobe, which you obviously are.
16:51
i dont like any of these guys but vaush had me on the verge of putting my fist through my monitor, JUST FUCKING ENGAGE
There was nothing to engage with .
Vaush simply cannot enagage with arguments.
Yup
I think he engaged fine in this debate
@@kevinjohnanand No he was insufficiently charitable towards the literal pedophile whose obvious overarching goal is to normalize and create social space for child sexual assault lmao
I feelclike I must have watched a different debate than you lol
Well this aged poorly @@Hakasedess
DEBATS😮
I used to like to watch this channel before discussions of pedophilia and mrgirl became significant content. The topic of pedophilia is pretty simple in my view. The act of pedophilia is not normative and distasteful for most of us in Western culture. We can't have thought police go after peoples thoughts so I can be empathetic to people with that inclination. But it's not acceptable in most societies so that's it. The questions regarding what underage demographic is your preferred age is a loaded question and I would have just responded "I'm indifferent to that question." Regarding reasoning people to end slavery instead of having a Civil War. Frankly that was a fucking stupid discussion. mrgirl with his thought experiments and eluding what concrete things could have been done were a total waste of time. Are geopolitics so boring that normalizing pedophilia is now all the rage to produce useful discussions? Wow. If I missed stuff it's because I had the discussion playing in the background and I fast forwarded thru parts that were pure word vomit and painful to listen to.
@Azrakul Can't I have an opinion? Seems like everybody does.
Was never about YOUR preferred age, it was about the preferences of specifically all American men, which I think is an interesting conversation to have because if the numbers both vaush and mr girl are saying are true, then there is a very big problem. I agree with you on the civil war shit though that was dumb
@Azrakul You're right. I think I thought I was on the Destiny channel. Nothing wrong with this channel.
Apologize for this post.
The fact that the topic of pedophilia disturbs u so much is the same reason it’s a big problem today. Saying ur indifferent to a question in this case just feels like cheap cop out for u
The vaccine take aged like milk 😂
The vaccine is based
@@DavisJ-ln6fwbased on medical research
@@DavisJ-ln6fwbased and clot pilled
@@DavisJ-ln6fw injecting yourself with something because the news told you to, to prevent something that has a 99.9999% survival rate is peak western cuckslop behavior
1:01:33
Destiny's cognitive dissonance with the vaccine is hilarious to watch.
Destiny is correct about the vaccines. The vaccines helped prevent many deaths
Replace "Destiny" with "My" and you have a more accurate sentence
Where is the dissonance?
@@garrymiller3171 Yes, my contention is moreso that there are legitimate concerns regarding its safety & efficacy. The binary of either you're "pro-vax" or "anti-vax" is silly. I think this tribal mindset skewed his judgement on a lot of topics pertaining to covid. Calling people stupid for being uncertain on the issues when time after time 'the science has changed' is a bit douchey
@@tigerfestivals5137 But I got the vaccine. I just didn't trick myself into thinking all of the concerns were illegitimate.
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I dont see whats hard to grasp. There could have been a better resolution to slavery. It was a very long racist fight to abolish slavery that tbh slaves had to really do themselves. Its not crazy to say there probably was a better way to abolish slavery its kind of obvious.
what could they have possibly done to end slavery better. it's all subjective btw. If you prefer the saving of human lives rather than ending slavery faster then you would think that not doing the civil war is preferable even if slavery went on for a lot longer. If you are rational and sane then the civil war was the best as it is the fastest possible way to get rid of slavery. But please, tell me, in your opinion what would have been a better way to end slavery? just magically change the South's mind through persuasion? Do nothing?
@@AbsoluteUnit333 i feel like people have it so ingrained im thier minds to view history as a sign of constant human progress instead for what it is. Im not saying ik a better way to end slavery, and neither is mrgirl. But we should be able to look at history with a lens of critisism. Slavery was a huge problem and went on for so long. To think there was only one way to fix it and that way was war seems ignorant. To my knowledge the american slavery problem kept being pushed off because people didnt want to even deal with it. Im sure it would be easy for someome knowledgable on the politics of that time to think up a hypothetical way that could have ended slavery in a completly different way.
@@The_Critique the only way someone could come up with a hypothetical way to end slavery better would be if the north started war, but they didn't. The south literally started the war. There is no reason to say that the end of slavery could have gone better when you don't give any way it could have gone better. I could understand if mrgirl said "the end of slavery could have been better if the north had pushed for the end of slavery earlier" but mrgirl kept arguing that the civil war was a bad war on both sides even though the south literally started the war. Literally the only other choice in how the end of slavery could have been "better" is if you think the north should have just let the south secede and have slaves and then maybe possibly 100 years later they maybe end slavery. Even though the south is still trying to get slavery back today with labor prisons in the south filled with black men. The only definitive way to end slavery was to win that war. Trust me when I say the end to slavery could not have gone better then the war. At least to me it could not have with my axiom of ending slavery by any means possible.
@@AbsoluteUnit333 i think your missing the point. There is always a better decision with hindsight. I dont think you have the knowledge to make an educated guess on this. He is saying both sides because they are a nation as a whole.
@@The_Critique obviously hypothetically there could be a way to end slavery "better" than they did. When the south fired on fort Sumter the north could have hugged them and talked them out of seceding. Or the north persuaded the south into seeing the error of their ways. But in actual reality blood must shed to free the slaves from their masters. Even if the north pressured the end of slavery more that would have done nothing but hasten the start of the war. If they did nothing and let the south secede then slavery would still be going on today. They fought the war and guess what happened? Slavery actually ended (there's still slavery in prisons though). If you want to argue that reconstruction could have gone better I would 100% agree, I think every confederate should have been put to death or thrown in jail. But instead they were given reparations. War must be fought to free people. I'm reiterating this point, war was the only way to free the slaves. I'd maybe understand your point of view if the north started the war but the south literally started the war so your point of view is absolutely useless.
The level of misinformation about the civil war is staggering.
What?
Most of the misinformation comes from the south. I know because I grew up in the school systems teaching the misinfo
@@garrymiller3171 any examples?
@@justjeff3416 let's start with an easy one. The civil war was about states rights and not over slavery
@@garrymiller3171 agreed. I think the north had roughly 450,000 black slaves that were unaffected by the emancipation proclamation.
as a vaush fan this is the only debate i think he has lost
You’re actually an idiot if you truly believe that. I’m not even trying to be rude or disrespectful but I have to call you out I’m sorry.
@@CrackYouUpFilms "You're an idiot if you don't have the same opinion as me, not being rude tho"
Cringe opinion
TOILET
I disagree