China Made A Great Knife!? | Real Steel Bushcraft Vs Mora Garberg
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- Опубліковано 13 лис 2019
- We've tested many knives from China. Most of them use bad steels or just simple have a bead heat treatment or build quality. Today we test a knife that might actually be one of China's hidden gems! The Real Steel Bushcraft Plus Convex in 14c28n steel. This might be one of the most affordable convex knives.. but is it good?
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If China provides cheap things it doesn't necessarily mean that they can't produce a quality products... if you will pay enough money that is.
Videos like these are why I first started watching DBK. When they make videos like these, nobody reviews a knife better than they do.
Your videos are getting better in quality. Good crisp clear graphics. Thank you!
It vould be cool guys if u made a video with improving that handle on a "realsteel", it seems to be on screws, so you can strip it and change handle, i think it can be fun.
Real Steel handles are awesome.
The handle forming hot spots depends on the hand
I've been using the Real-Steel Bushcraft Plus Convex in 14c28n for a little over a month now. Shoulder season late fall provides ideal timing with good insights for making outdoor performance assessments. Here in Alaska... the uses for a knife of this genre and class in September thru November are mainly fishing, hunting, camp, utility, and around the house tasks or play. Settings and conditions will widely vary. So far in this genre and class my preferences are Garberg 14c28n stainless, Varusteleka Terävä Jääkäri Puukko (have both in 80CrV2 and Stainless *likely X50CrMoV18) and Bark River Springbok II cpm3v. All these are extremely useful, trustworthy all arounders. The Real-Steel Bushcraft Plus Convex in 14c28n caught my eye a while back, but were unavailable here in USA... so funny thing is, I ordered from a European site with great pricing plus shipping terms/rates. So far I have to say it is a winner with nice fit & finish and places categorically well up to and performance wise as a truly competitive convex option for going mild to wild. Not experiencing any hot-spots. I find the handle very well done and near perfectly aligned/fitted. Jimping is quite functional and satisfactory as far as comfort. Spine is @ 90. Tip strength is very good. Multi-purposed mounting sheath is of good molded kydex, tie fastened or removable, inside the fabric belt sheath, w/ accessory pouch. Overall a fine, dependable, well thought out, all-arounder package at the asking price.
interesting, thanks for sharing - it does seem very well priced if it as decent as you say
the post is a little bit older, hoping you steel read it or get a message: I have the RS bushcraft pro with a flat grind, but have the chance now to get it also with the the convex grind (it is even still available in scandi grind), however, I always struggle to see a distinct advantage of the convex grind, especially when taking steel material and the matters you cut into account. For batoning the convex has advantages, but for meat, especially lunges (dog food) I really prefer full flat or even a hollow grind (not available for the RS pro) - your thoughts?
@@WM-jy9dz Convex grind has some advantages. That said - other grinds (even hollow) have relevant advantages in their own right. I'll relate that grind 'snobbery' is not all that important. Good materials, overall geometries/design, good workmanship with consistency, proof-testing, tunability/sharpening maintenance, reliability, and user familiarity practices will achieve the upper hand vs. grind type. My Real-Steel Bushcraft Plus Convex in 14c28n is still going strong, and the sheath is still excellent. Here is an older video using the knife: ua-cam.com/video/Zk0ocPRe34c/v-deo.html
@@alaskaraftconnection-alask3397 ha, that was a fast response - very appreciated. The 14C28N is one of the toughest steels out there, another reason why I think the difference between the flat grind and the convex grind is not so important for this specific knife; the blade is 4.5 mm thick, combined with the moderate length and the tough 14C28N even the flat grind should be strong enough for rougher tasks, with some advantages for meat / lunges processing.
Interestingly, when ESEE listened to their customers who asked them to make the ESEE-4 also with a "better" steel they seemed to ignore the fact that S35VN is much more brittle than the 1095 (S35VN is indeed significant better wrt edge retention and wear resistance), and keeping the same grind and thickness some customers indeed broke the S35VN blade - for this knife changing the grind or at least the thickness when using a more brittle steel would have some merits IMO.
@@WM-jy9dz My experience with 14C27N trends the outdoor genre medium knife size mostly using MORA Garberg and Real-Steel Bushcraft Plus Convex. I do not consider these as 'over-build' class or type knives such as BK-2, Esee-5, etc. For this size/weight range, reasonable use, reliability, overall performance, low/easy maintenance, and at this general price point... I'd relate 14C27N fits the applications par for the course. Honestly, for most outings, my go-to in 14C27N 8-9 out of ten times will be Garberg. However, when I want similar loadout and regarding suitability nod to convex (like hunting applications ) I'll run with Bushcraft Plus Convex. Having realistic expectations for 14C27N plus good blade geometry and good handles it's hard to go wrong.
Really enjoy the videos fellas, great testing and comparisons, truly!
Great video👍🏻 keep up the work guys
Hell yeah guys!! Seriously thanks for putting this together. I sent a FB message a while back requesting a review on this knife (the original version in D2 steel). I don't know if that had anything at all to do with it being created. I ended up buying the knife. Either way, you guys are THE best!
Great video guys! I'm glad seeing that Marten lost finally some weight!
Good comparison. Thanks guys! 👍😁
When are you guys going to test the Morakniv Eldris? 😃
Another fun vid. Thanks boys
I own both knives. Altough I am a mora fan , I prefer the handle of the real steel.
Thanks for the review! I’d love to see you guys review some WORKTUFFGEAR blades!
Another great video. you guys rock liked the the music to .
You should try a Norwegian «helle» knife of your own choosing
Good review! Someone else in this thread mentioned a good point; could you replace the handle of the Real Steel and try again?
Hi dbk fellas! Would yous ever do a sharpening battle?
The RSK Bushcraft Convex will be my next knife. I saw it at knivesandtools and now you make a video about it.
I was gonna go to sleep but why would i when theres a new dbk video
@DBK Marteen, Good vid as always.
GW2 LEGEND ua-cam.com/video/t9rm3zxCgbE/v-deo.html
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DBK please review the Ontario air force knife.
I have the real steel bushcraft 3 made in D2 G10 scales red liners in coyote full scandi...i love it the best 40 bucks i have ever spent on a knife.
Your videos improved.. no more silly drama .. I recommend add tomato cutting test
I've owned that real steel for a few years now, by buddy has the bushcraft II scandi...We were both surprised by Real Steal quality
Are your videos shot in the Amazon? Que the moisture from above
Sadly my Garberg also came with a micro-bevel originally. The Real Steel is also available in a scandi-grind btw, didn't you guys do a video on that one already?
You guys ever reviewed any LT Wright knives before? They're good quality knives imo
Could you guys please do a destruction test on the mora kansbol
DBK please review the iconic Ontario 18in machete.
Next knife for review: Sog seal xr please!
I think I am commenting too late for it to be seen, but I would like to know your thoughts on Spanish steel knives. I haven’t found any old videos testing Muela (except the new Victorinox 🧐)
Please do a test with Aurora 2 and 3
Good vid, should put it up against the new victorinox fixed blade they seem to be more similar to one another... Or even the Ontario knives bushcrafter in 5160...
Hey DBK Mora Knives makes a brand of knives called Bahco, they make one called the "Wrecking knife" it is very similar to the the straight Garburg but with a bigger edge and not full tang, it may be a better value than the Robust. It is a very intersting knife. Love your vids long time fan.
Are you both going balled at the same time?...oh yeah,good review.
You might want to revisit this comparison. The Real Steel is $60 US while the Garberg is $85 US, and the Real Steel is now made with D2 steel. It also comes in a scandi grind ( and flat grind ) blade
You need to check out Ruike knives - another excellent Chinese/Scandinavian steel manufacturer!
I believe they are a subsidiary of Fenika flashlights, but they make great folders and fixed blades!!
Keep up the great work chaps!!
Fenix Flashlights You mean.
Hi guys, a cool knife that looks like this real steel that I really like to use is the Amare Duro Expedition convex. You should give it a try, it's worth your time and has been tested very little on UA-cam. Regards
Pretty good rock video but I was interested in a knife!!!!
Review the Condor Terrasaur!
Should do a cheap knife video destruction test
That real steel bushcraft convex version officially sells at about 118 dollars at China and Mora Garberg at 156 dollars,what a mystery.I won't buy them either.
Try the Fiskars knife with built in sharpener. Could it beat a regular mora? Fin-swe showdown
Try Manly Patriot vs Mora companion and try Manly Comrade for your folding knife series
Please make a full workout/Training Video
Hi dbk what is bester the mora garberg or the cabine one
Bonjour So which one is the best ?
How did you guys convex your Garberg???
Make a video on the victorinox hunter pro
I wish you'd tested edge retention since it's heat treated a little harder
I have the scandi version of the real steel bushcraft and it has performed marvelously and no microbevel. I'd take a garberg 10 times out of 10 unless I'm batoning the real steel batons great.
Try creating a bevel you like by resharpening.
Is a cheap BarkRiver Bravo? Put father scales on it.
Wow it has real steel!
Jullie zouden echt de Helle Sigmund moeten uittesten, t is echt een geweldig mes
yeah have you never heard of we, kizer or reate, as well as ckf
I think you're looking for Dutch Pocket Jewelry Knives. Different channel.
@@dm3639 😂🤣 Kizer's a bit more subdued though, I can better appreciate their kind of 'bling'. And they have some pretty good beaters in their Vanguard line.
I avoid Kizer and we knives. Ckf and Reate are far better. Kizer is budget junk. We knives are over priced and have average heat treat.
My Garberg came with a very big secondary bevel.
So I ordered another one, same.
I would complain, and send it back for a refund (or another replacement if you really want one) mine came with no secondary bevel. Also make sure you are buying from a reliable source.
the garberg comes with a secondary bevel ... dbk made it scandivex by themselves
@@kennethmaddox6219 true, but sometimes is more and sometimes less visible
Buy another one lol
@@kennethmaddox6219 it has a very very tiny bevel
Real steel has a scandi for round 60 doll hairs it might be a better comparison
I sense a AVE fan.
i own the real steel bushcraft 2 with the scandi grind, and it's a great knife, it has a feeling of great quality
@@gavin3488 i dont even particularly care about his videos i am just there too hear the man talk
Basically how good a bushcraft knife is, is measured by how close it can come to even the Garberg. This contest is fair, and it makes me so proud of my china-made knife 🙂🙂🙂. I'll get my hands on a Garberg someday, but for now my Real Steel Bushcraft will do.
I like TOPS knives the same way you like Mora knives. Good review DBK. Personally, I will spend more money to get better quality. The only Taiwanese knives I will ever buy are Cold Steel.
In the folding knife world, China is pretty much the Japan of quality. We knives , Reate , etc. not just their own models but make for designers and other brands as well
DBK please review the cold steel trail master knife.
I agree, and i would also like a cold steel sword test (read: really hard use😁)
@@matthiassnoep6833 they did one already, i think they tested the tanto or smth against other choppers
@@skyurrik3239 it was the machete katana.
@@matthiassnoep6833 the Viking sword for sure.
@@skyurrik3239 machetes don't count😁
I have the Real Steel Bushcraft Convex in D2..Guys, this Knife has a very good Edge retention....you say the Truth about the Microbevel, i Had to resharpen that Knife to a Real Convex Grind....and i had Hotspots on the Handle, but with a little Bit Work, the Problem past away..
Best Mortal Kombat voice: "Mora Garberg WINS"
I have really missed these more serious videos. Of course there is nothing wrong with the more comedic videos, but i just feel like i dont learn that much about how the knife performs in those videos.
i would like to see more attention to sheaths of the knives you talk about.. to me that's an important aspect of the knife. i think by the looks the real steel has a great sheath, lots of cary options, kydex and nylon, little pouch there..
As a lefty,I definitely agree..it’s always nice to know what type of sheath comes with a knife because being left handed there is a pretty good chance I might have to replace the factory sheath because most fixed blades come with right handed sheaths.if it comes with a nylon or leather sheath,I know I’m gonna have to replace it because nylon is unacceptable for me and if it’s leather I know it’s right handed.Its always a big plus for me when a knife comes with an ambidextrous sheath.otherwise I’m gonna have to add $20-$60 on the price of the knife..not only that but even some knives that come with ambidextrous sheaths just don’t make the cut for me..take ESEE knives for example,they just don’t cut it for me without the molle attachment.using the belt clip that comes with ESEE knives makes the knife ride to high on your belt and leave the handle poking into your ribs.with the molle attachment you can obviously attach it to molle webbing but you can also use it on your belt which allows the knife to hang down several inches lower that the belt clip allows..even with the molle attachment,their sheaths just aren’t as good as their older models because they went from kydex to injection molded plastic.luckily,they still use kydex on the Junglas sheath..it’s nice to have an idea about sheath’s materials and quality before buying a knife
there it is again that amazing leather jacket, please tell me which one it is, i beg you...
DBK if you find a reliable Chinese manufacture you like can you have your knives made at multiple price points from different manufacturers?
Do you know ACTA NON VERBA knifes ?
look the Wolfgangs Ambulo great knife D2 steel and great price.
I want that freaking baqbabaarora knife damnit!
Bakbiviborora is my favorite knife so far I want it.
Hey guys, i have the mora garberg, but my edge isnt that strong as yours, maybe thats because i havent sharpend it yet and the secondary bevel is still on there. Can u guys please tell me what i have to do and if so, what grit whetstone i have to buy. I would really appreciate it, thanks👌🏻
If you look back through their catalog they have two or three videos on it
The secondary bevel is what makes the edge strong. What DBK did is a slight convex, which i a compromise between secondary bevel and the zero scandi.
My bark river bravo 1 had secondary bevel, I thought that these handmade knives would have full convex grind
They arer finished by hand. Some of the grinders polish them a bit too long sometimes making a secondary bevel
Handmade doesn't mean you make 100 knives by hand and get 100 knives looking 100% the same 😊 cut until its dull than sharpen and regrind it...
Seems like a good knife
Actually no Mora is a true scandi. They all have a micro bevel from the factory. They didn’t tell you?
joe Recto they run the edge with a polishing wheel. Let me double check. True scandi edge is actually very fragile and very sharp.
joe Recto www.reddit.com/r/Bushcraft/comments/5s1l0p/mora_garbergs_micro_bevel/
Testing ruike jager f118
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The Ginsu steak knife 🔪.
Outkast hey ya.
The price of the Garberg just dropped $10 on Amazon 😂 Thanks DBK
heard the Rumor that "CPM 3V is the new Fancy name of Bearing steel/52100"!!! ???
Made in China knives aren't that bad nowadays. I've got several Ganzo folders and they are good. They are cheap, but can be compared with the great brands like Buck, SOG, Benchmade. Mostly, Ganzo uses 440C like steel, but the FH11 is in D2 steel. Have one and never sharpened it.
I got a Sanremu folder for many years as my everyday utility and still looks and works like new
In reality, China manufacturers have the potential of building any range of quality even the highest. The problem is with the cheap ass business men that make money by importing and selling crap
Thanks guys. On paper it looks better.
I buy! 🤩
There's a new version out to address this and other criticisms: Bushcraft III with (among other things) improved handle and no micro bevel, true convex grind. There's also other new knives based on that new knowledge, like the CVX-80 (which is awesome). I think you should revisit Real Steel some time. It is very much possible that you guys have accidentally made Chinese bushcraft knives a lot better with this video. Cheers
Shit boys, you really have to train your no spin throwing. Put the index finger behind the spine of the knife to guide it, and don’t bend the wrist when throwing ( bendind the wrist adds a LOT of spinning ).
You guys didn't bring up the sheath its way better than Mora's option also why not sharpen it as you have the Mora. Its kind of hard for you guys cause ya get so much knives in for review and ya own so many so I know that's gotta be tough.
I'm not saying you're being deceptive AT ALL I like your reviews😉 IMHO being a knife lover who has used these budget friendly brands cause I'm poor the Real Steel IMHO gives you more for your money. I was a huge fan of the Garberg but over time I've come to realize the grind is actually way to abrupt .
The convex will give you much more options of use with food prep and esp skinning an animal once ya hone that edge. I do agree the handle is to thin BUT its removable has storage space for fishing line and you could add liners or your own handle all together. We fall in love with brands and I think I was a fanboy for Mora which caused some bias which messed with my asssment of the Garberg.
I've now been using the Ontario Blackbird Sk5 for over a year and have stopped using other knives cause the spear tip just works great.
154CM is great steal you guys should try the knife out its not perfect but I like it and have literally become one with the design.
There is v3n steel made in China.HRC 67，many people use it for the knife.
RS has problems with handles
My Buscrafter 2 handle is too much slippery, i hat to wrap tennis grip !
I think you should test out the Casstrom No.10. Real handle materials, sandvik steel.
Basically the same cost as the garberg but better materials.
What do yo mean by saying "better materials"? The steel is the same, and the handle... Well, I understand that micarta or birch may look better, but will not achieve the same grip and robustness as polyamide.
projekctx you just answer your question. The handle material is better. I’m curious if the slight slant in the handle makes it more comfortable.
@@WillEDC I'm not sure I understand, who's handle material you say it's better, garberg or casstrom?
projekctx casstrom. I suppose you prefer me to say better as in more expensive hand crafted material?
@@WillEDC Not at all.
From your firs comment I had an impression that you appraise casstrom over garberg in terms of handle.
My opinion is that garberg handle is better because it's extremely robust and sticks to the hand no matter if wet or dry. And the more worn it is the more grippy it gets.
Nonetheless, everybody may have different definition of "better" :)
Real steel 2 is D2 and has a scandi grind. Why not compare that to the Mora to that? Sound like a fair fight
03:08 nice image.
I have the bushcraft 2 in d2 steel, what an amazing little knife with its scandi edge, but garberg is better in that category. Handle is better, no hotspot, ..... It's a mora...
I got an amazing deal on the Real Steel with D2 scandi for $20usd shipped to Canada
Shiiit how did you get that?
@@J.sh_CDN It was on the Böker USA website a couple years ago I found out about it from a YT comment. I figure it must have been a mistake BC that's a massive loss for them
I have both and I actually prefer the Real Steel by a small margin.
0:30 Not meaning to spoil the joke, but being a cyclist I would much appreciate all cars being Chinese in that way😅
Ha
Great Video :D
The Real Steel looks good, but not so good as the Mora Garberg, which looks also more ergonomic. Further the Real Steel is not a good choice, cause the handle fucked up, hotspots...I hate to use knifes which do that that shit. But my own Knives are good guys :D
Is a good knife.
Real Steel, is a good knife.