I'd never install an intake over soft sediment since they are nearly always full of decaying organic sediment and bacteria up into the water column. Lakes that have thick sediment layers are generally not going to have clean water. Of course this can be corrected by examining the lake and setting up an ecology that will consume those sediments. This is a much more subtle challenge if the lake has trout that need the cold water in the bottom to survive summer. Yes you could place rock on the lake bottom, but the bacteria and the sediments always find a way up. The easiest answer is to pull water from a clean / rocky bottom.
Suction lift is measured from the the pump inlet to the surface of the water because that is where the water will naturally fill to. You could put a foot valve 200' down a well and as long as the water level in the well is above 25' a shallow well jet pump will work.
Brilliant support for the intake--so easy to adapt the pickup height. Question: Does it make any difference if the intake is pointing up, down, or horizontally when it comes to sucking up small bits of junk in lake water?
I know this is an old video but I am going to build this same stand. Is this 2" schedule 80? I am having a very difficult time finding these smaller threaded sections anywhere locally. Any ideas where I could find this? Seems like Lowes and HD are not really selling Schedule 80 anymore and they have very limited selection of threaded pipe even in Schedule 40. Thanks great video.
How possible is it to get measurements for this kit - need stand for my cottage trying to make same as you have showed-would very much appreciated if measurements could be provided
I like your lake pipe structure to mount a foot valve. I was always lead to believe that my foot vale should be mounted so the intake was down, not up as your video option suggests. I would prefer to mount with the screen at the top as is indicated in the first option in your video. I could do it either way as I’m in about 15 ft of water with sandy bottom. Which would be your first choice?
I am replacing a river pump used for irrigation, the failed pump was a well pump. I have purchased a new deep well pump because I wanted more pressure and expand the irrigation to the 3 acres of property. The water supply is a river. Is there any issue with using a well pump in a horizontal position to draw and supply water for the irrigation? I have watched several of your videos and you have given me good ideas to make sure the pump draws in clean water, avoiding sediment. Thanks
Hi Chris, I'm also in your area, where the lake freezes, so if you weigh this down with the angle iron weight and sink it into >10 feet of water how do you get to take the valve off for winterizing? And re-inserting in the spring, as recommended to keep (exposed part of) intake pipe from freezing?
Redneck fix: You could try a floating/sinking barrel technique. Attach a 5-gallon barrel (I'm guessing about the size, also you need 2 hoses (inlet and outlet)) to the foot valve, fill with water to sink it and air to float it. :)
I’m using 3 large screw pumps as means to pull from a large pit of waste water , the problem I’m facing is with the rubber stator as a lot of sharp solid small objects ( pens, nuts are being pulled by the pump and cutting up the stator and scratching the screw, I need a pump that can handle such objects in an efficient and reliable manner
And it might end up a few cottages/homes away if there’s any current. We’re on a river and I’ve seen large wooden docks go by surrounded by ice in the spring😲
Absolutely crystal clear explantion...at last. question: I have a Goulds Pump J05N 1/2 HP sitting at 30' from the lake and 8' above water line. The pump then push the water to a 1000 litter tank 150' away and 20' above water line. I will follow your recomendation about the foot valve but what should be the size of input and output conduits? So far, I've been using 3/4" input and 5/8" at the output....that should explain why the breaker of my generator keeps jumping off... thx
Thank you for the great video! You guys are the best. I do have a question. My foot valve is in rather shallow water 3 feet or less. We also have a weedy muddy bottom. I have raised the foot valve so it’s not sitting at the bottom but My foot valve is still sucking in sediment and small weed particles that are not being filtered out by the screen on the foot valve. What can I do? I have tried placing a sponge around the foot valve screen, however, but this reduces the suction too much and doesn’t allow the pump to build up sufficient pressure. Thx.
Your videos are SO helpful! Thank you! A little advise for improvement...Ditch the background "music". It is nerve racking and a distraction.
I'd never install an intake over soft sediment since they are nearly always full of decaying organic sediment and bacteria up into the water column. Lakes that have thick sediment layers are generally not going to have clean water. Of course this can be corrected by examining the lake and setting up an ecology that will consume those sediments. This is a much more subtle challenge if the lake has trout that need the cold water in the bottom to survive summer. Yes you could place rock on the lake bottom, but the bacteria and the sediments always find a way up. The easiest answer is to pull water from a clean / rocky bottom.
Npsh will not allow for 30 to 40 feet of depth for your suction. Max on a normal jet pump 26feet. Unless you have ane injector.
Suction lift is measured from the the pump inlet to the surface of the water because that is where the water will naturally fill to. You could put a foot valve 200' down a well and as long as the water level in the well is above 25' a shallow well jet pump will work.
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Noted, thank you for the explanation.
Brilliant support for the intake--so easy to adapt the pickup height.
Question: Does it make any difference if the intake is pointing up, down, or horizontally when it comes to sucking up small bits of junk in lake water?
Theoretically it should work in any position, but I would advise against putting it upside-down.
@@RCworstwater Stupid question, but can you clarify which way is upside down? Threads up or down on the foot valve? Thanks so much!
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Thanks for the comment!
I know this is an old video but I am going to build this same stand. Is this 2" schedule 80? I am having a very difficult time finding these smaller threaded sections anywhere locally. Any ideas where I could find this? Seems like Lowes and HD are not really selling Schedule 80 anymore and they have very limited selection of threaded pipe even in Schedule 40. Thanks great video.
Can I order the pipes and check valves from you? rather than going upside down could the intake be 3 inches shorter? Thanks Dave
Where would I find the minimum submergence calculations? That is pump specific so the pump manual?
How possible is it to get measurements for this kit - need stand for my cottage trying to make same as you have showed-would very much appreciated if measurements could be provided
Trying to get a parts list together on Spears and whoa its over $300, do you sell the pvc only kit?
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I like your lake pipe structure to mount a foot valve. I was always lead to believe that my foot vale should be mounted so the intake was down, not up as your video option suggests. I would prefer to mount with the screen at the top as is indicated in the first option in your video.
I could do it either way as I’m in about 15 ft of water with sandy bottom.
Which would be your first choice?
I am replacing a river pump used for irrigation, the failed pump was a well pump. I have purchased a new deep well pump because I wanted more pressure and expand the irrigation to the 3 acres of property. The water supply is a river. Is there any issue with using a well pump in a horizontal position to draw and supply water for the irrigation? I have watched several of your videos and you have given me good ideas to make sure the pump draws in clean water, avoiding sediment. Thanks
So cool!
Do you sell plans to make a setup like this?
Thanks🔧👍
Hi sir, do you have the concept of water pump to suction water for long distance? It is about 300ft from source to point of water inlet pump?
Will this work with gravoty fed system
You don’t mention a check valve, but I assume you use one and it would be located near the Foot Valve; correct?
No, a foot valve is all that is needed on a typical jet pump system.
Great job
I cannot find the threaded brass/SS filter or the brass hose bard to threaded connector on your website.
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Hi Chris, I'm also in your area, where the lake freezes, so if you weigh this down with the angle iron weight and sink it into >10 feet of water how do you get to take the valve off for winterizing? And re-inserting in the spring, as recommended to keep (exposed part of) intake pipe from freezing?
Redneck fix: You could try a floating/sinking barrel technique. Attach a 5-gallon barrel (I'm guessing about the size, also you need 2 hoses (inlet and outlet)) to the foot valve, fill with water to sink it and air to float it. :)
I’m using 3 large screw pumps as means to pull from a large pit of waste water , the problem I’m facing is with the rubber stator as a lot of sharp solid small objects ( pens, nuts are being pulled by the pump and cutting up the stator and scratching the screw, I need a pump that can handle such objects in an efficient and reliable manner
Any Idea is welcome, maybe a grinder pump?? But do they come in large sizes? Are they reliable?
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Thanks for the video! Do you use Teflon tape or pipe sealant on the threaded connections?
Yep! Either one or both.
Hi , can a franklin pump work horizontally.. 0.5 HP.
Here's a link to what the factory says about mounting positions: franklinwater.com/media/123984/Page-3.pdf
Thank you.
What size pipe are you using
1.25" in this video
Good
Very clear video
great idea. if its under the ice, and the line is open on the other end, why would you have to take it out for the winter?
If the pipe is not buried below the frost line then the residual water in it could freeze and break the pipe
And it might end up a few cottages/homes away if there’s any current. We’re on a river and I’ve seen large wooden docks go by surrounded by ice in the spring😲
Good information as usual.
Glad it was helpful!
Absolutely crystal clear explantion...at last.
question: I have a Goulds Pump J05N 1/2 HP sitting at 30' from the lake and 8' above water line.
The pump then push the water to a 1000 litter tank 150' away and 20' above water line.
I will follow your recomendation about the foot valve but what should be the size of input and output conduits? So far, I've been using 3/4" input and 5/8" at the output....that should explain why the breaker of my generator keeps jumping off...
thx
Don't go smaller than what the pump's inlet and outlet are. So if the inlet is 1.25" you should us 1.25" pipe.
@@RCworstwater Thank you Chris, you're the best!!!👍
Thank you for the great video! You guys are the best. I do have a question.
My foot valve is in rather shallow water 3 feet or less. We also have a weedy muddy bottom. I have raised the foot valve so it’s not sitting at the bottom but My foot valve is still sucking in sediment and small weed particles that are not being filtered out by the screen on the foot valve. What can I do? I have tried placing a sponge around the foot valve screen, however, but this reduces the suction too much and doesn’t allow the pump to build up sufficient pressure. Thx.
I’ve used an Anka foot valve mesh sock for finer debris. Can find it at Home Depot near the foot valves, and it doesn’t affect the system pressure.