This is great, thank you SO much for making these videos, it's 10:30 at night and we're caring for our sick, elderly parents/in-laws and their water pump just went out. If it weren't for your video, who knows what would've happened, things go on here during the night and we need to have water, a lot of water!! Thanks again, great in emergency situations! 👍😊
Just purchased a cabin that utilizes a pump from the lake to the cabin for all plumbing. This video is exactly what i needed, as i am a total rookie at this stuff. Thank you!
Very useful video, I tried yesterday to prime an irrigation pump and failed... now i know why! Gradually opening up the ball valve and allowing a little back pressure to keep the pump from throwing all the water out initially is the key. Nice job!
Super informative videos. We recently bought a house with an irrigation watering system. Two hours ago I didn't even know what a jet pump was, but now I'm feeling confident to at least start trouble shooting, and with some luck maybe even get the damn thing working. Thank you!!
Dude's like: I'm gonna show you how to prime a pump in a dry lab with adequate standing room using the best, most ideal fittings and valves with the water source at my feet using a larger pump than the typical one found in most homes.
Had one this past weekend...pump was cycling every few minutes with no water running. Our pipes are below frost line into the basement, and this one had water entering the basement by the pipe entry between the slab and block. Ended up the 1-1/4 pipe had a leak in it just outside the wall. Was fortunate, as the wellhead is buried with a sealed casing. (Casing vent runs into the basement along with the pump piping)
Use a 1/2hp jet pump set to 20 psi for irritation from a stream to 2 faucets 20 feet in separate directions. Ball valve is easiest way to prime. Stream foot sucker closes without draw so priming once per month only. Cleaning sediment out of pump housing is performed by closing faucet valves and opening ball valve until clear.
I seem to have a problem where I cannot get my suction line to hold the water before completely filling the lines and the pump. I am not sure if I have a foot valve but I do have a check valve above ground. After I finally get primed, everything seems to work fine. Do you happen to know why my suction line will not hold the water or do you know if I buy a pump priming pump and install it after the check valve if it will help me? And if so could you please send me a link to buy it.
Do you recommend a check valve on the intake side? Or is a foot valve better, if it will fit into the casing in a point well? And is a foot valve susceptible to clogging ?Thanks
the ball valve that must be opened up partially after the jet runs for it to not lose the prime, will it make any difference if installed on the intake instead of the discharge line?
Do you guys have any suggestions on how to quickly prime a centrifugal pump with a non-self priming liquid end? I have several that I maintain and even though I am dumping continuous water down the discharge side while not allowing any other water to go downstream it takes many attempts of shutting it off filling it all up turning it on and repeating the process probably 75 more times before it primes and stays primed until The power goes out and one of the timers on the other side of the property open up valves and drains the system to zero.
Hello i have a 7.5hp centrifugal triphase water pump. Now I get water from a spiral rubber and foot valve drill. The water level is about 4 meters deep. Now I would like to put a check valve on the surface of the tube. My pump will be able to draw 4 meters of air between the pump and check valve to bring the water up;
Is for agricoltural use. My water well metal tube is 3 inch and now have 2 inch greek spiral plastic tube with 2 inch foot valve. (my water well is 14 meter height) (water stay at 4 meter) ( my spiral 2 inch tube with foot valve is 8 meter). But i don't have the max power on water pump. I see on the spinklers. Now i want to change it. I want to use 3 inch check valve on metal tube. But because water stay 4meter, my pump can up 4 meter water up on pump? Sorry for my very bad English
Thank you so much .... I did this to my well and it worked out well ..... haha ... I have two wells on property one that is a deep drilled well and the other is a dug shallow well this is the one that had the problem... thanks to your video I have both working now
I have a goulds jrs7 jet pump. It is a bit different from what you have shown. A teardown down of a jrs7 would help greatly to show the difference and this country boy.
We have run our jet pump dry (didnt know we were out of water) and now it wont turn back on. Is there anything i can check before deeming it broken? Have we burned it right out?
Chris Thanks for all the informative video on Jet pumps. Very useful for the ordinary pumps owner. However, kindly explain what all the electrical fittings for a new installation like on/off switch, DOL starter, MCB etc
I have an idea to solve ur problem ..self priming all u have to do is keep the water from leaving the volo the pump housing to do so u have to make 1. the suction pipe slopped towards the pump or 2. use an s like a p trap. let me what u think thanks
I am looking to water a large grass area which is about 150’ from my water source I do have power 240v I’m liking g what is see instead of a jet manual Honda jet pump / generator type Would your setup in this video work? With a big gun sprinkler sprayer
Would anything change if I have a brand new, empty pressure tank? Would I still crack the valve at the discharge, turn power on, than close the discharge until the pressure tank fills, than fully open discharge? Thanks
Make sure if you have a jet pump make sure to keep it warm come winter. I've lost 2 due to freezing water in the area that you prime the pump, froze then busted !!! My own preference is junking the jet pump and get a submersible pump. Just my 2¢. Lot of less headache 👍🏼.
Hi i dont have any quick release valves on my system i draw water from the lake into a 1/2 horse jet pump its connected to a 20 gallon holding tank ..i cant get prime on pump ..filled line up from lake and installed a new foot valve on lake side ..have filled pump with several gallons of water and pump still not primed ..should i fill the tank up with a water hose first then try to prime because air bubbles still coming up Normally i dont need to do this there is a valve to the tank should i shut it to prevent air from tank from entering..thanks
I have a brand new flotec deep well vertical 1hp pump that is leaking at the gasket between the pump and the plate that contains the pressurized line and 1-1/4 return line. I am wondering if I can replace the gasket with silicone gasket maker? Is that stuff safe for a drinking water system?
Like your video! Do you have detail installation of a "Single Pipe Jet Kit for 2" Deep Well? Pump is Goulds-J10 Double Nose Deep Well. Appreciate your help. Thanks
You were talking about how the well loses its prime because of the air going in between the connections. You didn't mention putting in a check valve so it wouldn't lose its prime. Why?
Various situations can occur that lead to loss of prime on an existing pump install, and this video is intended to help people get their system primed and back to operational. This video was not created as an installation guide for a immersible type pumps. Foot valves are a critical component in preventing prime loss in nearly every immersible centrifugal pump on the market. I do not recommend a check valve on the suction line if a foot valve is present, this can lead to difficult troubleshooting down the road.
Check valves can be problematic and a check valve won't save a leaky system if the leak (for example) is below the check valve because seepage will dump the prime which a non-self-priming pump will not recover. A check valve on the inlet side of a pump (if the pump is not so fitted) prevents the pressure tank from dumping back through a seeping foot valve but doesn't itself maintain prime in the well pipe. It also PREVENTS pour priming unless you have one prime fitting (verticals like shown in the video hold a funnel nicely, and use a gate valve for reliability as shown) for the pump and another for "everything on the well side of the check valve". You can also buy self-priming pumps but they are considerably more expensive. My water tends sandy so my spare pump will be self-priming after I replace a worn foot valve (and all the well piping because PVC is cheap and broken well pipes SUCK to fish out if the owner didn't leave a line, I will use stainless aircraft cable since I'm a jet mech, love overkill and cable is thousands of pounds stronger than rope so a pinched casing should it happen may be overcome with winching. I always buy my next pump including replacement pipe fittings and wiring after installing a replacement since I expect to live long enough to need it and they don't break at convenient times. This worked nicely for thirty-plus years and I do it with all my plumbing parts when I replace wear components.
Can you use a self-priming utility pump like little giant for example to prime the jet pump? My jet pump has a hose bib connected to the priming port. Conversely why cant they make jet pumps self priming?
Jet pumps work off suction, hence any air in the system will not allow it to prime, if you want a pump that doesn’t require priming submersibles are the way to go
Thanks for your instructions. however somehow air seems to be preventing the jet pump from taking the prime. I have a 2 inch pvc pipe in a lake with a foot valve on the end. the foot valve has a screen on the end to prevent dirt getting unto the pipe. on the top of the pump there is an opening to pour water into the pipe and into the pump. I can pour water into the opening that puts water into the pipe in the lake and into the pump. After putting about a gallon into the pump, the water gets to the top of the opening and I screw the threaded into the opening. There is a pumptrol and a pressure Gage on the pump. I also have a 2 inch flexible hose that connects the pump to a pressure tank. When I activate the pumptrol I can see water moving in the flexible hose, however I can also see air in the hose. I don't understand where the air in the hose attached to pressure tank is coming from. Even if there was air in the hose wouldn't the jet pump still be able to pump water into the pressure tank? Thanks for any advice you can provide!
I have really hard water...build up quickly...with in months...over powers my shallow well pump...is there a pump that does not allow the build up on the impellers and bearings and seizes the pump...it is not cast iron...should I use a cast iron for better hard water resistance....has to be 25ft and 50 psi...
Does having a pressure tank and a jet pump change the process at all? And if you can't disconnect the suction what is the actual process? I'm trying to hook my 1000l tote up to a tee in the suction, hopefully that will work (or will that just trap air below the tee and cause other issues?). The top of the water in our well is probably 15' lower than the pump right now.
@@RCworstwater I got it figured out thanks! I think there was some crud in the foot valve, and it flushed itself out. My daughter was watering her garden, and emptied the well!
Great video. What is the model pump you used for your video? I have a small 1/2HP pump for water at my dock on a lake and I am looking at adding a second pump which will either supply a water fall or run irrigation. Pump be installed outdoors, will sit approximately 5' above the water level and I would feed water horizontally around 250' and vertically 30'. Do you recommend a shallow well jet pump for the application.
But how do you prime the pump when the lines run down hill about 100+yards and the lines were completely dry because you just had to change a foot valve and you continue to add water but it seems like all the water is probably just disappearing because you never get to the point where the pump seems to be full of water so you can run it? Is there a way to push compressed air into the line to basically create a siphon so the lines can be full again and you only need to fill the pump? This shouldn’t be this hard and yet… I’ve been without water to my house since January because the damn pump won’t prime.
Great tutorial! We have a jet pump for a sprinkler system. When we prime it using your technique (fill the whole intake, then slowly open the valve after starting the pump) it still does not create the suction and pump water. We checked all our fittings to ensure they are air tight. Any ideas or recommendations are appreciated?
I replaced just about everything on my water system and come to the that my pump casing is clogged! Of course its the very last thing i thought i didnt need to replace cause it still pumped water...QUESTION: Is there any safe products I can use to dissolve sediment in my pump casing??
@@RCworstwater impeller was slipping from motor shaft as well, bought a new pp. thanks for the reply! Its very humid now in the pp room .. need a dehumidifier now lol. one thing after another
Hi I have an existing well that's holding water but hasn't been used in 20 years I want to put in a hydrant so that I can use it in my swimming pool how do I do that
Also have you had any experience with a Gould’s irrigator? I was looking at them for future expansion of my farm irrigation system but currently my system is a J5s and is always pressurized all 1 inch poly pipe. With the currently longest run of 1700ft But I would like to increase my mainline from 1 inch to 1 1/2 inch like the irrigators output and still allow me to only open one of the 1 inch or 3/4 side zones. But I recently talked to Gould’s and they said that the irrigator doesn’t like to be reduced down. Then how are people supposed to control zones that is technically reducing by closing zone valves isn’t it? Can you install an irrigator in a pressurized system with an expansion tank and pressure switch so that it will control the output without putting too much back pressure on the pump?
I have a shallow well pump (above ground) with pressure tank and am about to replace both as the tank is leaking and the bearings on the pump are about to give in. My question is should I put a check valve before the new pump or after (on t-connector intake before the pressure tank). Thank you!
R.C. Worst & Co., Inc. Thank you for the reply! Could I have one already installed somewhere midway in the well? If I mount one to the line going into my pump from the well, would it be sufficient?
What would cause a pump to lose prime with 80 foot lines goulds jet pump. 2 hose ejector and foot valve. Do the ejector/footvalves get stuck open? If no holes in the lines what would cause a system to lose the prime or lose pressure when primed?
It is likely that the well is dry. Typically sand point don't have a foot valve - just a check valve near the pump. You could try replacing that check valve and see if it fixes the issue.
They will work to any depth, it will just require more pumping the deeper the well is. You can buy them here: www.rcworst.com/lane-manufacturing-co.html
I have a shallow well pump that has burn up the impeller. The pump has a tank with a bladder. I want to replace this pump with a jet pump. Does a jet pump require a tank with a bladder.
Funny... I never have to go through any of these steps to prime and operate my jet pump--which has no check valve to retain water in the suction line. Just pour water into the discharge port till the volute is full, turn the pump on, then screw the discharge hose on to the port before water emerges. Never fails.
Thank you for the informative videos. A pump test stand with large electrical panels behind the human - what could go wrong??? Even if there is a GFCI involved - why trust your life with it??? Just saying . . . you know your shop.
That's ok for a shallow pumping single pipe system but a two pipe 2" deep well at 120 feet can be a real nightmare, especially in drought conditions to keep it primed.
Just a common beef with a common misconception about priming a pump: At 2:45 you start mentioning "to allow some backpressure...so that it doesnt quickly throw all the water out and lose prime" The line is in the water, so the pump isn't going to magically unpump all the water out of the line and lose prime... the intake is submerged, the line (assumedly) isn't letting air into the line, so applying "backpressure" does zero for you. In fact, it actually retards the pumps' ability to evacuate air from the suction line, so there's no point in creating "backpressure".
Brother I just found your channel looking for a way to fix my MYERS well pump and just subscribe cause your work is awesome brother.... Quick question my pump only gives me air pressure with a little bit of water sometomes. The preasuere is strong but no water just sprays here and there. Please help friend.!
Sounds like your pump may be losing its prime, I would first verify the foot valve is functioning and holding water, then fill the pump and suction lines with water and try to run it. If the problem continues contact me with the problem. Thanks for the sub!
R.C. Worst & Co., Inc. no like I have a shallow well pump and I'm wondering if I can have the suction pipe go up to a rafter from the pump and then over and into the pipe going into the ground
@@sammyg3697 It is possible, but it will be a nightmare to keep it operational like that. You would have to add a priming port at the highest point of the suction line and fill it from there. Any air that entered the system would collect there and likely need to be purged/reprimed fairly often.
Ok So I have watched several of you videos. I still can't find one that will tell me what happens if a bladder tank has only got 5 lb of air in it. I'm having problems with my pump as soon as I get it to prime it automatically turns off. why would this happen??????
Might anyone know why, when I prime the suction line, the water totally disappears! I’ve poured 30+ gallons. The pump will still pull water up but there is a lot of air in there... I guessed that the well is dry, grandparents are adamant that’s not the problem. Will a loose pipe on the suction line cause a problem like that?
Yes, you definitely have a leak in the suction pipe. It is most likely in the foot valve, located at the bottom of the suction pipe. Pull it up and inspect. If it is the foot valve you can buy a new one here: www.rcworst.com/Valves-c80.html?Attribs=504&
Hi Chris. Why wouldn't you just hook a guzzler pump up to prime it? Isn't that simpler? Your pump priming pump is essentially the same thing. Any reason as to why that one over a guzzler?
Just burned out a brand new Ecoflow 1 hp shallow well pump The company used a soft rubber line to the pressure switch and it blew off flooding my basement and seizing up the motor. The issue i had before this happened was it never would push past 35 lbs though its a 40 - 60 RATING. It was difficult to set up to work properly The pressure switch would rapidly click on and off when it was to turn on. The only way i could stop that was to tighten the main bolt but then it wouldn't shut off. I did finally get it to turn on and off with out that rapid clicking on and off but never got the pressure to rise past 35 lbs. HELP!. Im returning the pump tp Home Depot tomorrow and getting another pump
Great video though I fell asleep at the end from trying to stay awake after fighting with my pump all last night and then watching this video,could have saved me a ton of trouble,Whew awake after a POWER NAP......and ready to conquer my shallow well pumPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP,Thank you, you are the geartest, since Donald Trumpppppppppp!
This is great, thank you SO much for making these videos, it's 10:30 at night and we're caring for our sick, elderly parents/in-laws and their water pump just went out. If it weren't for your video, who knows what would've happened, things go on here during the night and we need to have water, a lot of water!! Thanks again, great in emergency situations! 👍😊
Happy to help!
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Just purchased a cabin that utilizes a pump from the lake to the cabin for all plumbing. This video is exactly what i needed, as i am a total rookie at this stuff. Thank you!
Thanks for watching!
you could also install a one-way check valve to ensure that water doesn't flow back out of your source line.
Very useful video, I tried yesterday to prime an irrigation pump and failed... now i know why! Gradually opening up the ball valve and allowing a little back pressure to keep the pump from throwing all the water out initially is the key. Nice job!
Glad it helped
Really great video! I have searched and researched and this is the first time I've been satisfied with the information. Awesome job
Thanks for your comment!
Jeremy F at R.C. Worst just helped me to diagnose this problem. Very impressed with them!
He's our best employee!
Super informative videos. We recently bought a house with an irrigation watering system. Two hours ago I didn't even know what a jet pump was, but now I'm feeling confident to at least start trouble shooting, and with some luck maybe even get the damn thing working. Thank you!!
Thanks for watching! Give us a call if you need any help troubleshooting: 855.329.4519
Dude's like: I'm gonna show you how to prime a pump in a dry lab with adequate standing room using the best, most ideal fittings and valves with the water source at my feet using a larger pump than the typical one found in most homes.
Oh man, I’m feeling this comment right now. Crawl space is cramping my vibe right now.
Had one this past weekend...pump was cycling every few minutes with no water running. Our pipes are below frost line into the basement, and this one had water entering the basement by the pipe entry between the slab and block. Ended up the 1-1/4 pipe had a leak in it just outside the wall. Was fortunate, as the wellhead is buried with a sealed casing. (Casing vent runs into the basement along with the pump piping)
Thank you for this video. I have a jet pump which I needed to prime, And you video helped me understand what I needed to do. Thank you
Great to hear!
That hand primer pump was exactly the idea I needed! I went and found one online and it just happened to be from your company. Heh what a coincidence.
Man... I've been looking for a video like this for quite some time...
Thank you. Really helpful.
Greetings from Portugal.
Glad we could help, thanks for the comment! :)
Use a 1/2hp jet pump set to 20 psi for irritation from a stream to 2 faucets 20 feet in separate directions. Ball valve is easiest way to prime. Stream foot sucker closes without draw so priming once per month only. Cleaning sediment out of pump housing is performed by closing faucet valves and opening ball valve until clear.
OMG, THANK YOU!!!! You just provided a fix for something I was trying to find a solution for!!!
It was as a perfect video looking for installing my centrifugal pump. Looks to me a correct way to install the pump
Great content, thanks. What is the best reliable above ground jet pump for 100 ft. deep well?
I seem to have a problem where I cannot get my suction line to hold the water before completely filling the lines and the pump. I am not sure if I have a foot valve but I do have a check valve above ground. After I finally get primed, everything seems to work fine. Do you happen to know why my suction line will not hold the water or do you know if I buy a pump priming pump and install it after the check valve if it will help me? And if so could you please send me a link to buy it.
Do you recommend a check valve on the intake side? Or is a foot valve better, if it will fit into the casing in a point well? And is a foot valve susceptible to clogging ?Thanks
Just a foot valve is all that should be used on most systems.
the ball valve that must be opened up partially after the jet runs for it to not lose the prime, will it make any difference if installed on the intake instead of the discharge line?
I'm setting up a jet pump at an old well to water my garden. Do I need to build a shelter to keep the pump dry when it rains?
Do you guys have any suggestions on how to quickly prime a centrifugal pump with a non-self priming liquid end? I have several that I maintain and even though I am dumping continuous water down the discharge side while not allowing any other water to go downstream it takes many attempts of shutting it off filling it all up turning it on and repeating the process probably 75 more times before it primes and stays primed until The power goes out and one of the timers on the other side of the property open up valves and drains the system to zero.
I have a lot of water in the water line coming from the well to the pump. How do I get that air out?
Hello i have a 7.5hp centrifugal triphase water pump. Now I get water from a spiral rubber and foot valve drill. The water level is about 4 meters deep. Now I would like to put a check valve on the surface of the tube. My pump will be able to draw 4 meters of air between the pump and check valve to bring the water up;
Is for agricoltural use. My water well metal tube is 3 inch and now have 2 inch greek spiral plastic tube with 2 inch foot valve. (my water well is 14 meter height) (water stay at 4 meter) ( my spiral 2 inch tube with foot valve is 8 meter). But i don't have the max power on water pump. I see on the spinklers.
Now i want to change it.
I want to use 3 inch check valve on metal tube. But because water stay 4meter, my pump can up 4 meter water up on pump? Sorry for my very bad English
Thank you so much .... I did this to my well and it worked out well ..... haha ... I have two wells on property one that is a deep drilled well and the other is a dug shallow well this is the one that had the problem... thanks to your video I have both working now
Great job!
I have a goulds jrs7 jet pump. It is a bit different from what you have shown. A teardown down of a jrs7 would help greatly to show the difference and this country boy.
We have run our jet pump dry (didnt know we were out of water) and now it wont turn back on. Is there anything i can check before deeming it broken? Have we burned it right out?
It may have just tripped the thermal overload. Give it some time to cool down and try running it again after repriming it.
Can I use a shop vac or something to suck the air out also?
Chris Thanks for all the informative video on Jet pumps. Very useful for the ordinary pumps owner. However, kindly explain what all the electrical fittings for a new installation like on/off switch, DOL starter, MCB etc
Just subscribed with both my YT channels. I appreciate all the very informative videos and thanks for sharing your knowledge. 👍😎🤠🇺🇸
Welcome aboard!
Where are the pumps on your site? I was unable to find them. Please provide a direct link.
www.rcworst.com/wade-rain-6-9-30-hand-primer-pump.html
I have an idea to solve ur problem ..self priming all u have to do is keep the water from leaving the volo the pump housing to do so u have to make
1. the suction pipe slopped towards the pump or
2. use an s like a p trap. let me what u think
thanks
I am looking to water a large grass area which is about 150’ from my water source
I do have power 240v I’m liking g what is see instead of a jet manual Honda jet pump / generator type
Would your setup in this video work?
With a big gun sprinkler sprayer
Give us a call: 855.329.4519
What if I put a check valve between the disconnect, and the pump? Would that keep it primed?
Awesome video. Thanks!
Thanks u saved my money. like and subscribed 👍👍
Thanks for the sub!
I installed a new pump with a check valve at the inlet and new pressure tank. I can’t get the system to prime. Any help would be great
Where’s the link to buy that item u recommended?
Here: www.rcworst.com/lane-6-byco-502-60-hand-priming-pump.html
Would anything change if I have a brand new, empty pressure tank? Would I still crack the valve at the discharge, turn power on, than close the discharge until the pressure tank fills, than fully open discharge?
Thanks
After you crack the discharge you don't need to close it again, other than that your steps are spot on.
R.C. Worst & Co., Inc. awesome thank you! So my discharge goes to a hose bib. Should I have the hose bib open while I’m priming or have it closed?
Make sure if you have a jet pump make sure to keep it warm come winter. I've lost 2 due to freezing water in the area that you prime the pump, froze then busted !!! My own preference is junking the jet pump and get a submersible pump. Just my 2¢. Lot of less headache 👍🏼.
Good Tips!
Hi i dont have any quick release valves on my system i draw water from the lake into a 1/2 horse jet pump its connected to a 20 gallon holding tank ..i cant get prime on pump ..filled line up from lake and installed a new foot valve on lake side ..have filled pump with several gallons of water and pump still not primed ..should i fill the tank up with a water hose first then try to prime because air bubbles still coming up
Normally i dont need to do this there is a valve to the tank should i shut it to prevent air from tank from entering..thanks
I have a brand new flotec deep well vertical 1hp pump that is leaking at the gasket between the pump and the plate that contains the pressurized line and 1-1/4 return line. I am wondering if I can replace the gasket with silicone gasket maker? Is that stuff safe for a drinking water system?
I don't think that will work.
@@RCworstwater Any advice for leaking gaskets?
I would try calling the factory to see who can sell you parts in your area.
Like your video! Do you have detail installation of a "Single Pipe Jet Kit for 2" Deep Well? Pump is Goulds-J10 Double Nose Deep Well. Appreciate your help. Thanks
No, sorry
Should the pomp need an enclosure if mounted outside? I live in south Florida?
Interesting tutorial in priming new gadget for suction gud day
You were talking about how the well loses its prime because of the air going in between the connections. You didn't mention putting in a check valve so it wouldn't lose its prime. Why?
Various situations can occur that lead to loss of prime on an existing pump install, and this video is intended to help people get their system primed and back to operational. This video was not created as an installation guide for a immersible type pumps. Foot valves are a critical component in preventing prime loss in nearly every immersible centrifugal pump on the market. I do not recommend a check valve on the suction line if a foot valve is present, this can lead to difficult troubleshooting down the road.
Check valves can be problematic and a check valve won't save a leaky system if the leak (for example) is below the check valve because seepage will dump the prime which a non-self-priming pump will not recover. A check valve on the inlet side of a pump (if the pump is not so fitted) prevents the pressure tank from dumping back through a seeping foot valve but doesn't itself maintain prime in the well pipe. It also PREVENTS pour priming unless you have one prime fitting (verticals like shown in the video hold a funnel nicely, and use a gate valve for reliability as shown) for the pump and another for "everything on the well side of the check valve". You can also buy self-priming pumps but they are considerably more expensive. My water tends sandy so my spare pump will be self-priming after I replace a worn foot valve (and all the well piping because PVC is cheap and broken well pipes SUCK to fish out if the owner didn't leave a line, I will use stainless aircraft cable since I'm a jet mech, love overkill and cable is thousands of pounds stronger than rope so a pinched casing should it happen may be overcome with winching. I always buy my next pump including replacement pipe fittings and wiring after installing a replacement since I expect to live long enough to need it and they don't break at convenient times. This worked nicely for thirty-plus years and I do it with all my plumbing parts when I replace wear components.
Beautiful done
Thank you! Cheers!
I have a jet pump with a tank how do I prime this thing?
Water from valve shooting in air beside 600 v disconnects cool
Can you use a self-priming utility pump like little giant for example to prime the jet pump? My jet pump has a hose bib connected to the priming port.
Conversely why cant they make jet pumps self priming?
Jet pumps work off suction, hence any air in the system will not allow it to prime, if you want a pump that doesn’t require priming submersibles are the way to go
How much hp is that
Thanks for your instructions. however somehow air seems to be preventing the jet pump from taking the prime. I have a 2 inch pvc pipe in a lake with a foot valve on the end. the foot valve has a screen on the end to prevent dirt getting unto the pipe. on the top of the pump there is an opening to pour water into the pipe and into the pump. I can pour water into the opening that puts water into the pipe in the lake and into the pump. After putting about a gallon into the pump, the water gets to the top of the opening and I screw the threaded into the opening. There is a pumptrol and a pressure Gage on the pump. I also have a 2 inch flexible hose that connects the pump to a pressure tank. When I activate the pumptrol I can see water moving in the flexible hose, however I can also see air in the hose. I don't understand where the air in the hose attached to pressure tank is coming from. Even if there was air in the hose wouldn't the jet pump still be able to pump water into the pressure tank? Thanks for any advice you can provide!
For 100 feet shallow well, If I will use Jet pump, how many horse power required?
I use a !HP
Butch Gratil 1
I have really hard water...build up quickly...with in months...over powers my shallow well pump...is there a pump that does not allow the build up on the impellers and bearings and seizes the pump...it is not cast iron...should I use a cast iron for better hard water resistance....has to be 25ft and 50 psi...
Very good stuff. Thank you
Lifesaving tutorial. Thank you so much.
Glad it helped!
Does having a pressure tank and a jet pump change the process at all? And if you can't disconnect the suction what is the actual process? I'm trying to hook my 1000l tote up to a tee in the suction, hopefully that will work (or will that just trap air below the tee and cause other issues?). The top of the water in our well is probably 15' lower than the pump right now.
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@@RCworstwater I got it figured out thanks! I think there was some crud in the foot valve, and it flushed itself out. My daughter was watering her garden, and emptied the well!
Great video. What is the model pump you used for your video? I have a small 1/2HP pump for water at my dock on a lake and I am looking at adding a second pump which will either supply a water fall or run irrigation. Pump be installed outdoors, will sit approximately 5' above the water level and I would feed water horizontally around 250' and vertically 30'. Do you recommend a shallow well jet pump for the application.
Thank you for the tutorial.......it will be handy as we replace our pump.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the video man very informational
Thanks for watching!
I moved into a house that has a Shallow well/ jet pump but I lose my prime over night. Its starting to get frustrating!
But how do you prime the pump when the lines run down hill about 100+yards and the lines were completely dry because you just had to change a foot valve and you continue to add water but it seems like all the water is probably just disappearing because you never get to the point where the pump seems to be full of water so you can run it? Is there a way to push compressed air into the line to basically create a siphon so the lines can be full again and you only need to fill the pump? This shouldn’t be this hard and yet… I’ve been without water to my house since January because the damn pump won’t prime.
Awsome bro thanks a million
Where can I find a priming pump available everywhere? Your source only ships directly, no distributors. Need it fast.
We can ship it expedited (UPS Next Day Air). View the rates on our website: www.Rcworst.com
Is that a irrigation pump? I thought that the irrigation ones were not really jet pumps?
Great tutorial! We have a jet pump for a sprinkler system. When we prime it using your technique (fill the whole intake, then slowly open the valve after starting the pump) it still does not create the suction and pump water. We checked all our fittings to ensure they are air tight. Any ideas or recommendations are appreciated?
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Hello. I have a 65 ft well and a goulds pump JRD7 Je pump. Could they match to aspire water?
I replaced just about everything on my water system and come to the that my pump casing is clogged! Of course its the very last thing i thought i didnt need to replace cause it still pumped water...QUESTION: Is there any safe products I can use to dissolve sediment in my pump casing??
You'll have to disassemble and clean it by hand.
@@RCworstwater impeller was slipping from motor shaft as well, bought a new pp. thanks for the reply! Its very humid now in the pp room .. need a dehumidifier now lol. one thing after another
I replaced everything new... I now everything that can go wrong with a well pump lol. motor shaft was slipping on the impeller
Saved my day!!! The not WORST video ever!! THANKS!!!
Thanks for watching - glad we could help!
Hi I have an existing well that's holding water but hasn't been used in 20 years I want to put in a hydrant so that I can use it in my swimming pool how do I do that
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Excellent!
Thanks for watching!
Would a wet/dry shop vac be able to raise water to the pump?
I doubt it would be able to. You'd need an airtight seal to try which would be difficult
Also have you had any experience with a Gould’s irrigator? I was looking at them for future expansion of my farm irrigation system but currently my system is a J5s and is always pressurized all 1 inch poly pipe. With the currently longest run of 1700ft But I would like to increase my mainline from 1 inch to 1 1/2 inch like the irrigators output and still allow me to only open one of the 1 inch or 3/4 side zones. But I recently talked to Gould’s and they said that the irrigator doesn’t like to be reduced down. Then how are people supposed to control zones that is technically reducing by closing zone valves isn’t it? Can you install an irrigator in a pressurized system with an expansion tank and pressure switch so that it will control the output without putting too much back pressure on the pump?
I love the fact the “expert” is playing with water in front of all of those disconnects.
Excellent thanks
I have a shallow well pump (above ground) with pressure tank and am about to replace both as the tank is leaking and the bearings on the pump are about to give in. My question is should I put a check valve before the new pump or after (on t-connector intake before the pressure tank). Thank you!
You will need on the end of your suction line, the others are usually not needed.
R.C. Worst & Co., Inc. Thank you for the reply! Could I have one already installed somewhere midway in the well? If I mount one to the line going into my pump from the well, would it be sufficient?
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What would cause a pump to lose prime with 80 foot lines goulds jet pump. 2 hose ejector and foot valve. Do the ejector/footvalves get stuck open? If no holes in the lines what would cause a system to lose the prime or lose pressure when primed?
It would have to be the foot valve if there are no holes in the pipe.
My pump keeps losing prime. I’m not pulling water from my deep sand point well. Could it be the well is dry or a bad foot Value? Any advice? Thanks
It is likely that the well is dry. Typically sand point don't have a foot valve - just a check valve near the pump. You could try replacing that check valve and see if it fixes the issue.
Just noticed having a water test bench with Hydro just behind can be dangerous
I loose prime in my well one or twice a week. Cant pinpoint as to how/why..
Good video, where do you get one of those priming pumps, how deep of a well will it prime and how much are they?
They will work to any depth, it will just require more pumping the deeper the well is. You can buy them here: www.rcworst.com/lane-manufacturing-co.html
That is awesome, I think I will get one from you folks.
Just ordered one!
@@waynegalvin4639 Thanks Wayne!!
Wow, it already shipped!
I have a shallow well pump that has burn up the impeller. The pump has a tank with a bladder. I want to replace this pump with a jet pump. Does a jet pump require a tank with a bladder.
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Yes
Same principal with a water transport truck??? To fill homes with holding tanks and all that
is it Myers Pump Sir , i don't think so
Funny... I never have to go through any of these steps to prime and operate my jet pump--which has no check valve to retain water in the suction line. Just pour water into the discharge port till the volute is full, turn the pump on, then screw the discharge hose on to the port before water emerges. Never fails.
Thank you for the informative videos.
A pump test stand with large electrical panels behind the human - what could go wrong??? Even if there is a GFCI involved - why trust your life with it??? Just saying . . . you know your shop.
Bahahaha!!!! i was waiting to see who caught that shit!!! thats fucking hilariouse
That's ok for a shallow pumping single pipe system but a two pipe 2" deep well at 120 feet can be a real nightmare, especially in drought conditions to keep it primed.
Just a common beef with a common misconception about priming a pump: At 2:45 you start mentioning "to allow some backpressure...so that it doesnt quickly throw all the water out and lose prime" The line is in the water, so the pump isn't going to magically unpump all the water out of the line and lose prime... the intake is submerged, the line (assumedly) isn't letting air into the line, so applying "backpressure" does zero for you. In fact, it actually retards the pumps' ability to evacuate air from the suction line, so there's no point in creating "backpressure".
The link to the hand primer pump doesnt work.
Thanks for the heads up. Here it is: www.rcworst.com/wade-rain-6-9-30-hand-primer-pump.html
Well done! No BS! 😌
Brother I just found your channel looking for a way to fix my MYERS well pump and just subscribe cause your work is awesome brother.... Quick question my pump only gives me air pressure with a little bit of water sometomes. The preasuere is strong but no water just sprays here and there. Please help friend.!
Sounds like your pump may be losing its prime, I would first verify the foot valve is functioning and holding water, then fill the pump and suction lines with water and try to run it. If the problem continues contact me with the problem. Thanks for the sub!
I have a water pump sir,if i start the pump its very heat the body,,what's is the problem sir,,
What if the suction pipe goes above the pump and then back down to it?
That means you have a "Deep well" jet pump. Both pipes must be filled with water, as well as the pump volute.
R.C. Worst & Co., Inc. no like I have a shallow well pump and I'm wondering if I can have the suction pipe go up to a rafter from the pump and then over and into the pipe going into the ground
@@sammyg3697 It is possible, but it will be a nightmare to keep it operational like that. You would have to add a priming port at the highest point of the suction line and fill it from there. Any air that entered the system would collect there and likely need to be purged/reprimed fairly often.
R.C. Worst & Co., Inc. ok, thank you for your time
@@sammyg3697 Anytime! :)
Ok
So I have watched several of you videos.
I still can't find one that will tell me what happens if a bladder tank has only got 5 lb of air in it.
I'm having problems with my pump as soon as I get it to prime it automatically turns off.
why would this happen??????
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Might anyone know why, when I prime the suction line, the water totally disappears! I’ve poured 30+ gallons. The pump will still pull water up but there is a lot of air in there...
I guessed that the well is dry, grandparents are adamant that’s not the problem. Will a loose pipe on the suction line cause a problem like that?
Yes, you definitely have a leak in the suction pipe. It is most likely in the foot valve, located at the bottom of the suction pipe. Pull it up and inspect. If it is the foot valve you can buy a new one here: www.rcworst.com/Valves-c80.html?Attribs=504&
Hi Chris. Why wouldn't you just hook a guzzler pump up to prime it? Isn't that simpler? Your pump priming pump is essentially the same thing. Any reason as to why that one over a guzzler?
Just burned out a brand new Ecoflow 1 hp shallow well pump The company used a soft rubber line to the pressure switch and it blew off flooding my basement and seizing up the motor.
The issue i had before this happened was it never would push past 35 lbs though its a 40 - 60 RATING. It was difficult to set up to work properly The pressure switch would rapidly click on and off when it was to turn on. The only way i could stop that was to tighten the main bolt but then it wouldn't shut off. I did finally get it to turn on and off with out that rapid clicking on and off but never got the pressure to rise past 35 lbs. HELP!. Im returning the pump tp Home Depot tomorrow and getting another pump
How many homes do you think have all those ball valves and quick connects?? This is great...for you but not realistic AT ALL.
I have one
@@natsonthervil3112 Good for you....I guess this vid was for you....
Great video though I fell asleep at the end from trying to stay awake after fighting with my pump all last night and then watching this video,could have saved me a ton of trouble,Whew awake after a POWER NAP......and ready to conquer my shallow well pumPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP,Thank you, you are the geartest, since Donald Trumpppppppppp!
My pump suction is poor due to the distance from source how to improve suction?
You can either move the pump closer to the source or increase the pipe size on the suction line
@@RCworstwater thanks
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