What's wrong with C9? FlyQuest: Kings of Spring | PROS ft. Palafox, Sniper, & Tactical

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  • @RomnysGonzalez
    @RomnysGonzalez 11 місяців тому +437

    This show might be the greatest show LCS ever created is so nice to see pro interacting with each other and talking about their experience in game

    • @moonfish817
      @moonfish817 11 місяців тому +13

      Agreed, it really gives you an insight on the state of the league.

    • @marjoe32
      @marjoe32 11 місяців тому +4

      100% these orgs should learn and try to get thier guys in on conversations like this. I like all these guys better than before.

    • @azync2789
      @azync2789 11 місяців тому +5

      Yeah, it really makes you think about the State of the League™️

    • @J1MMER
      @J1MMER 11 місяців тому

      it is a good point how you dont even have to do much "content" in order to grow to like certain players. even just podcast formats can really showcase individual personalities.@@marjoe32

    • @Acendnt
      @Acendnt 11 місяців тому

      it also helps personify players. to me tactical was always just the guy that replaced doublelift that one split. this let's me like, understand him as a person.

  • @Shootingguard5000
    @Shootingguard5000 11 місяців тому +247

    As a proud Edward Ra apologist, watching Tactical succeed in any capacity makes me happy

    • @tsw9918
      @tsw9918 11 місяців тому +9

      Tactical is my goat will always cheer for him

    • @Khalolz
      @Khalolz 11 місяців тому +4

      AMEN BROTHER THE FAITHFUL HAVE BEEN REWARDED

    • @postalcollapse12
      @postalcollapse12 11 місяців тому +7

      love Tat since TL and its always great to gave the real boys hanging and talking. dope copium for em

    • @dothangbui4918
      @dothangbui4918 11 місяців тому

      WhatsApp Edward ra?

  • @ItsSnacktyme
    @ItsSnacktyme 11 місяців тому +143

    Recommendation for this segment (it’s great btw!):
    When players are talking about a specific game, it might help to put up a graphic of the team comps and scoreline of the game somewhere. Especially with superweek, I found myself pausing the video to go back and remind myself about the team comps and outcomes and who was playing.
    Great segment though! You guys are doing great with content this season!

    • @LargeMcBottoms
      @LargeMcBottoms 11 місяців тому +3

      While prob true, this is low econ content. No graphics necessary 😆😆

  • @MassIgnite
    @MassIgnite 11 місяців тому +115

    TIMESTAMPS
    0:00 - Intro
    1:50 - Thoughts on Super Week and Sniper progressing as a new player
    6:45 - Tactical on Mask and Castle
    7:18 - Cloud9 decline
    9:58 - Not seeing eye to eye with your team
    14:40 - What is attributing to the gameplay/champions we have seen so far in LCS
    18:50 - Thoughts on Smolder
    22:28 - Is Lucian a good pick and the current state of the game
    26:48 - What was your "Welcome to the LCS" moment coming into the LCS as an amateur and staying motivated on a bad team
    34:50 - Two block vs three block scrims
    36:50 - Process to improve as a player
    41:38 - What teams/players to look out for in the last half of the Spring Split

  • @TheJodalorn
    @TheJodalorn 11 місяців тому +62

    I know this sounds kinda cheesy but you can tell how much Palafox likes Sniper and wants him to succeed.

    • @Just_N_
      @Just_N_ 11 місяців тому +14

      Absolutely, it’s very endearing.

    • @indigorune
      @indigorune 11 місяців тому +11

      I noticed that too! He seems excited to see where his career takes him.

    • @ramusvinicini
      @ramusvinicini 11 місяців тому +3

      I saw it too

    • @hotprints
      @hotprints 11 місяців тому +8

      There was a moment where he looked at him like a proud father looks at their kid haha

  • @connerkaliel9849
    @connerkaliel9849 11 місяців тому +86

    This is the best content the LCS has ever made

  • @Real_extra_1
    @Real_extra_1 11 місяців тому +41

    The Markz effect is real. This content is gold and this is the new golden era of LCS.

  • @Deeldoe
    @Deeldoe 11 місяців тому +19

    Honestly when you watch how Tactical has kept improving each split, versus just giving up like a lot of people do who go from a top team to a bottom team, it's made me believe he absolutely deserves a slot up there over a lot of other people, even people imported sometimes. Listening to this interview confirms that times 10 for me tbh.
    This is the best content LCS has produced in a long time maybe ever, these are great, and I also like how the hosts are cycling so they all feel fresh and new stylistically.

    • @memoriesbroken69
      @memoriesbroken69 11 місяців тому +4

      This man legit went schizo and gaslit himself into becoming better what a Goat😊

  • @mehrajra
    @mehrajra 11 місяців тому +45

    PROS continues to a combination of great insight into proplay and memery from the players. Excellent

  • @bastianvalero4612
    @bastianvalero4612 11 місяців тому +11

    I love Palafox vibe men, chill but savage too

  • @Vuietnam
    @Vuietnam 11 місяців тому +25

    WE LOVE THE MARK ERA

  • @saintnerdherder3569
    @saintnerdherder3569 11 місяців тому +10

    Literally every monday this split I sit down with my coffee and go through work emails in the morning while enjoying this show. I wish it was longer so I had an excuse to top up my mug!

  • @larewt
    @larewt 11 місяців тому +12

    I love this series. Getting to see the personalities of the pros is a huge W. It makes me want to cheer on their teams even more. So far all the pros have been extremely likable imo.

  • @araguepli3
    @araguepli3 11 місяців тому +55

    This episode with raz was very league gameplay focused, while jatt and emily would touch on more topics outside of game, like adapting to LA or talking about lcs as a product with the import debate, wish raz would touch on those as well so we can understand the guests personalities more the next time he hosts PROS. Nice ep though!

    • @moocats
      @moocats 11 місяців тому +2

      Agree

    • @shinyy5184
      @shinyy5184 11 місяців тому +4

      Yes agreed I liked both Emily's and Jatt's episodes better!

    • @matthewhan
      @matthewhan 11 місяців тому +2

      Agreed

    • @hotprints
      @hotprints 11 місяців тому +1

      Agree, like the episode but preferred the topics jatt and Emily brought up

    • @ssongzio
      @ssongzio 11 місяців тому +2

      Hard to watch this week's episode bc Raz is having trouble articulating a single coherent question

  • @TooStealthy4U
    @TooStealthy4U 11 місяців тому +6

    PROS is such a great use of the analysts with less of their time on broadcast all of these eps have been so great I eat it up everytime

  • @Elivonstrahl
    @Elivonstrahl 11 місяців тому +40

    3 for 3 on NRG players featured. I love it.

    • @dothangbui4918
      @dothangbui4918 11 місяців тому +1

      same + 0 for 0 C9 lel, maybe if they win again KEKW

  • @hotprints
    @hotprints 11 місяців тому +5

    When I see him talk, I forget that sniper is still a 17-18 year old kid. Very mature and wholesome. Love the end when he thanked Raz for having him heh.

  • @aura7117
    @aura7117 11 місяців тому +8

    I really like Palafox's insight on C9 and I hope C9 gets it together because that roster has a lot of potential.

  • @JacobPorterLadder
    @JacobPorterLadder 11 місяців тому +9

    This show has MarkZ big brain idea all over it and it’s REALLY amazing. Best league show since Catching up with DL

  • @Embryage
    @Embryage 11 місяців тому +24

    48 mins of banger. Let's go!

  • @EgoCarry1
    @EgoCarry1 11 місяців тому +1

    Really like this show, nice to see different pros have a conversation about the game

  • @KilogramHours
    @KilogramHours 11 місяців тому +74

    Its funny how these are getting longer and longer. Next one is gonna be an hour

    • @MKracoon
      @MKracoon 11 місяців тому +13

      They're making them longer to see how long people will sit and watch it, lol

    • @KilogramHours
      @KilogramHours 11 місяців тому +15

      @MKracoon whelp let's hope it gets to 2 hours because I love this content

    • @MKracoon
      @MKracoon 11 місяців тому +7

      @@KilogramHours I agree

    • @Storm411z
      @Storm411z 11 місяців тому

      I could literally watch this kind of content for 3+ hours straight. I love being able to learn about the players, their mindsets, and just seeing them outside the game that brings us all together.
      This is the same kind of content format that Korea uses to market their k-pop groups, and that is why entertainment is South Korea’s number one export. We get to see them as people and are able to relate to them.

  • @AwkwardPhoenix
    @AwkwardPhoenix 11 місяців тому +6

    I like the new direction of the LCS. Think this is the right kind of content

  • @doloran-
    @doloran- 11 місяців тому +11

    I was really hoping they would tap dgon for this week since they had him as a guest. Still some of the best content the LCS has had in years, keep it up!

  • @tylergeery4247
    @tylergeery4247 11 місяців тому +17

    Need a counter for the number of times Raz says "That makes sense to me.."

  • @kitoesa4000
    @kitoesa4000 11 місяців тому +4

    Palafox AND Mr. Edward “Tactical” Ra, banger episode. Also sniper is really fun to finally see in the scene

  • @mayachun7778
    @mayachun7778 11 місяців тому +9

    tactical's gonna go through all of doublelift's former supports in reverse order or what

    • @tsw9918
      @tsw9918 11 місяців тому +7

      Aphro unretirement is imminent XD

    • @joshuaduran6993
      @joshuaduran6993 11 місяців тому +2

      Bro I wish. He actually convinced me I was a Dig fan for two years 😂

    • @mayachun7778
      @mayachun7778 11 місяців тому

      @@tsw9918 tactical/aphro sounds actually pretty solid, i wonder how tactical/biofrost would be though lmao

    • @mayachun7778
      @mayachun7778 11 місяців тому

      or tactical/yellowstar or tactical/kaSing lmfao i forgot about kaSing until i just checked

  • @valren2990
    @valren2990 11 місяців тому +5

    This is my favorite content the LCS has produced

  • @LunarNeedle
    @LunarNeedle 11 місяців тому +1

    Okay, this is the best concept LCS has produced hands down

  • @Zaiikai
    @Zaiikai 11 місяців тому +3

    An HOUR of this?? Hell yeah!!!!

  • @patrickdement1474
    @patrickdement1474 11 місяців тому +1

    Great stuff. Raz brings good energy. Looks like he could use a little more prep/coaching - he often keeps wandering for longer than he needs after he asked a perfectly good question, and doesn't need to do so much to get the players talking with each other.

  • @edwxrdlol
    @edwxrdlol 11 місяців тому +3

    WE LOVE THIS SHOW KEEP IT COMING

  • @PhyrexianPraetor
    @PhyrexianPraetor 11 місяців тому +3

    I like this ep a lot compared to the others, these 3 seem more comfortable in front of a camera

  • @noah_j_d5945
    @noah_j_d5945 11 місяців тому +38

    Great content. Get Bwipo on so we can have a 2 hour episode.

    • @marekcolapro
      @marekcolapro 11 місяців тому +7

      No, Bwipo is always everywhere and completely takes over the conversation, its more fun to see these other players

    • @MattM284
      @MattM284 11 місяців тому

      @@marekcolapro yup 100%

  • @Kurioms
    @Kurioms 11 місяців тому +5

    Best content in the West.

  • @SnowLepard92
    @SnowLepard92 11 місяців тому

    Keep up the good work! Been loving all of the episodes!

  • @woogieMMA
    @woogieMMA 11 місяців тому

    This just keeps getting better and better!

  • @cedrichofstetter4057
    @cedrichofstetter4057 11 місяців тому +7

    Tactical so based for saying its funny to see C9 lose

  • @J1MMER
    @J1MMER 11 місяців тому

    LOVE this series! fantastic to hear more from the pros, but different teams at same table makes it

  • @Dk10K
    @Dk10K 11 місяців тому +2

    Keep making this series

  • @Elbridgina
    @Elbridgina 11 місяців тому

    This was amazing. Three players with a lot of personality and very different stories.

  • @MarkStugots
    @MarkStugots 11 місяців тому

    LCS content has been phenomenal this year!

  • @pasteveryfate
    @pasteveryfate 11 місяців тому +4

    These are good podcasts

  • @backtobasics1370
    @backtobasics1370 11 місяців тому

    really enjoy this content

  • @joshuabrown821
    @joshuabrown821 11 місяців тому +2

    That makes sense

  • @kaleidudoit9618
    @kaleidudoit9618 11 місяців тому

    This is the content I’ve wanted highlighted from LCS for years. MarkZ doing his best to save this region

  • @carybirkbeck9613
    @carybirkbeck9613 11 місяців тому

    This series is very good

  • @henryjuffernbruch9656
    @henryjuffernbruch9656 11 місяців тому

    great work

  • @magmacorex
    @magmacorex 11 місяців тому +2

    Really liked this, awesome getting an insight like this and Raz is perfect for this so chill

  • @DoubleX300
    @DoubleX300 11 місяців тому

    Ths is the content we needed

  • @foppburgur
    @foppburgur 11 місяців тому

    Nothing to say, just want to leave a comment so LCS keeps making these :)

  • @boneheadcycler1412
    @boneheadcycler1412 11 місяців тому

    Take a shot every time Razz says, "That makes sense."

  • @metalheadofmordor9169
    @metalheadofmordor9169 11 місяців тому

    Nice to see that Travis Gafford idea and show now days thrives. 😂

  • @NormanCummins-ho3qd
    @NormanCummins-ho3qd 11 місяців тому +2

    Raz is on time , on task keep it rolling. Esports Dad

  • @adrianaline_rush
    @adrianaline_rush 11 місяців тому +1

    is this gonna go be on spotify or just youtube?

  • @aruanmello9320
    @aruanmello9320 11 місяців тому

    Kinda loving this show

  • @SouthernStar71
    @SouthernStar71 11 місяців тому +1

    That makes sense to me.

  • @devinosborne3396
    @devinosborne3396 11 місяців тому

    great content. Love to get to know these players better. Especially since they don't all stream. Hard to know the personalities they all have

  • @Awmaren16
    @Awmaren16 11 місяців тому

    Love this content keep it up!

  • @crazyhathello
    @crazyhathello 11 місяців тому

    Best LCS content ever!

  • @TophT1
    @TophT1 11 місяців тому

    this show rocks

  • @victorsosa8201
    @victorsosa8201 11 місяців тому

    Ty for this

  • @pepper6460
    @pepper6460 11 місяців тому

    "I think i had yoy guys as last place in my power rankings?"
    "Based."

  • @thedeviousone181
    @thedeviousone181 11 місяців тому

    i love this show

  • @leozacharydickenson769
    @leozacharydickenson769 11 місяців тому +5

    Great conversation, Sniper seems to always be upbeat and cocky even when hes talking about listening to teammates and improving his play out of lane.
    The Raz hate is weird, I like the atmosphere he creates with the show. But sure the questions could be more concise lol

  • @IAMMRON
    @IAMMRON 11 місяців тому

    I dont mind the finals being in the lcs studio maybe i can get tickets 🤔

  • @Eric-nx6cp
    @Eric-nx6cp 11 місяців тому +2

    This interview really showed how much NA relies on the east to show them what is good on any given patch rather than learn how to identify it themselves.

  • @aceventura9841
    @aceventura9841 11 місяців тому

    I absolutely love this panel but I think perhaps one additional desk personality should help drive conversation

  • @ThinkingOverwatch
    @ThinkingOverwatch 11 місяців тому

    I LOVE IT!

  • @dragonplayz6606
    @dragonplayz6606 11 місяців тому

    flyquest time stamps?

  • @rudedinosaur
    @rudedinosaur 11 місяців тому

    So glad they stole this idea from Travis, not sarcastic, I think the broadcast has an obviously much easier time getting multiple teams to be able to actually make it happen like he wasnt able to. And it is just a great concept, if this was a 2 hour long episode I would still be watching it, and I am ADHD af so that is a big thing for me

  • @EdZacPOGO
    @EdZacPOGO 11 місяців тому +1

    Really fun episode! Just a bit of constructive feedback for Ras, please address people less with “you” and more with their names. A lot of people don’t watch this actively and just leave it on as a podcast so without addressing the pros by name it can be confusing who you’re talking to.

  • @christianwallander2412
    @christianwallander2412 11 місяців тому

    Dash would be the perfect host for this show.

  • @memoriesbroken69
    @memoriesbroken69 11 місяців тому

    amazing episode. Waiting to get 3 people of the same role and see them trash talk each other.

    • @ihave3chihayas
      @ihave3chihayas 11 місяців тому +1

      Could do three toplaners and get licorice to host lolol

    • @memoriesbroken69
      @memoriesbroken69 11 місяців тому +1

      @@ihave3chihayas Fudge Impact Bwipo and Lico

  • @extraswaggeroni
    @extraswaggeroni 11 місяців тому

    interesting that all the players in this have won lost against each other in a triangle, NRG beat 100T, 100T beat IMT, and IMT beat NRG

  • @woogieMMA
    @woogieMMA 11 місяців тому +2

    Use my comment as a “Thank You Mark” button

  • @ieatfood29
    @ieatfood29 11 місяців тому

    Yeeesss!

  • @PirateFromMars
    @PirateFromMars 11 місяців тому

    🎉

  • @AsudoBlank
    @AsudoBlank 11 місяців тому

    The LCS is always behind the meta and what's being played everywhere else. The LCS tries to play the same style from 10 years ago and never adapts to what's being done. It's honestly easy to fix but the coaches for the LCS are all old school and refuse to make changes. It's not hard to understand why this region is a joke.

  • @OUTLANDERau
    @OUTLANDERau 11 місяців тому

    This kind of casual chatting leads to some of the best content, loving it @LCS @TheeMarkZ

  • @doing63
    @doing63 11 місяців тому +1

    cool

  • @orionmilbury4817
    @orionmilbury4817 11 місяців тому

    Let’s go

  • @eddiejohnston5025
    @eddiejohnston5025 11 місяців тому +2

    I like all the LCS analysts and casters, but damn, Raz cannot ask a simple question. His interviewing skills are terrible. He just rambled every time he talked for the first half of the segment, and never asked a clear question. I want to hear from the players, not the analyst.

    • @berksterb8475
      @berksterb8475 11 місяців тому

      I think he’s too used to being responsible for saying something insightful, rather than here, where his insight is supposed to be used to facilitate the players’ conversations.

  • @kyleweldi-miller9973
    @kyleweldi-miller9973 11 місяців тому

    Raz, I love you and this podcast, but please work on your transitions :))))

  • @DumbitDwn
    @DumbitDwn 11 місяців тому +5

    Love raz but feels like he missed the assignment here. The interview should be more about highlighting the pros personalities instead of only asking game questions.

  • @Ennuitk
    @Ennuitk 11 місяців тому

    w

  • @tavpros
    @tavpros 11 місяців тому +1

    Jensen getting player of the game on Tristana meanwhile Palafox runs it down on Leblanc like his life depended on it and he has the audacity to say Jensen can't play his champ? What a loser

  • @snailchip7634
    @snailchip7634 11 місяців тому

    PalaMango

  • @KevinSlawinski
    @KevinSlawinski 11 місяців тому +1

    Constructive feedback for Raz: interrupting a guest's answer with "yeah", "mhm", "mm" while they are talking is very distracting for the listener. Try to let your unspoken reactions take over and let them finish their thoughts before advancing the conversation.

  • @lukasfrey585
    @lukasfrey585 11 місяців тому +1

    Should be named something cool like state of the league. PROS sounds like a rip off

  • @imthebestmayne122
    @imthebestmayne122 11 місяців тому +1

    Sometimes palafox is just straight up condescending. Bro said his "Welcome to LCS Moment" was scrimming in academy against the main team, in addition to talking down to Tactical at the end. That wasn't really banter, kinda lame tbh.

    • @Adjacent_2
      @Adjacent_2 11 місяців тому +1

      his personality is incredibly toxic and fake. I've seen him talk shit about Blaber in an interview, and then later that night be in Blaber's Twitch chat being friendly. He lacks integrity to be a normal human being

    • @RyanBrrr
      @RyanBrrr 11 місяців тому +3

      Seems wild that you both seem to think that any of that was condescension. Palafox is pretty analytical, and I’ve never heard him genuinely trash anyone before. He didn’t talk down to Tactical, he gave some personal analysis about IMT. I have a pretty hard time believing he was “talking shit” about blaber rather than critiquing something about his play. Which interview was it?? Y’all seem way too sensitive

  • @ink2467
    @ink2467 11 місяців тому +15

    tbh I'm not a huge Raz fan

    • @To9R
      @To9R 11 місяців тому +10

      He's fine, personable and knowledgeable. Just really needs to work on not meandering too much when asking questions. Questions don't need minute-long contextualization (this is a common problem for many American casters imo, Drakos does the same on The Euphoria podcast). The host should make short, simple and open-ended questions and statements to facilitate the players talking, they are the ones we want to hear from

    • @ac8598
      @ac8598 11 місяців тому +2

      Yeah he just asks general questions hoping the others pick from there. His inputs just feel robotic and not enough interactive

    • @lawfulneptune14
      @lawfulneptune14 11 місяців тому +4

      Neither do I, I have no idea how he's been on the show for so long

  • @CampCucumber
    @CampCucumber 11 місяців тому +1

    Please stop with the live patch spam. It’s literally the same thing.

  • @lawfulneptune14
    @lawfulneptune14 11 місяців тому +7

    I really don't like Raz on the show. He's not good at interviews, he doesn't really showcase any game knowledge in an interesting way, I'm confused as to why he's been on this show for so long.

    • @TheSpartanWaffle1
      @TheSpartanWaffle1 11 місяців тому +1

      Diversity✨

    • @leozacharydickenson769
      @leozacharydickenson769 11 місяців тому +1

      I feel the opposite, he seems like he's able to get the pros to open up and keep talking. And I like the friendly atmosphere.

    • @TheSpartanWaffle1
      @TheSpartanWaffle1 11 місяців тому

      @@leozacharydickenson769 to be honest none of them are really good at asking the hard hitting questions, they’re all afraid to offend or say the wrong info so they take no chances at interesting conversation, just pretty surface level stuff, the interviewer doesn’t need to say much, the players should be taking amongst themselves after they have been prompted

  • @Adjacent_2
    @Adjacent_2 11 місяців тому

    C9 beat 2 of these 3 guys being interviewed. They are tied with IMT and only 1 game behind NRG and 100T. Yet they're all talking like C9 is terrible and these 3 guys are insane. Certainly C9 has to work on some stuff, but damn it's not like 3 guys are the beacon of consistency right now either.

    • @MrGoalie2012
      @MrGoalie2012 11 місяців тому +2

      problem is that C9 is supposed to be the "super. team" This split when they picked up jojo in mid and proceeded to get STOMPED by Shopify and are sitting at 5th halfway through the split. Thats the part that's suprising

    • @Adjacent_2
      @Adjacent_2 11 місяців тому

      @@MrGoalie2012 agreed they can be a little better, but this idea that they are INCREDIBLY far behind the rest of the league is just delusional. Again they are only ONE Bo1 behind NRG and 100T and TIED with IMT, and yet all 3 players are deluding themselves into thinking they're drastically above C9

    • @omarjafar846
      @omarjafar846 11 місяців тому

      @@Adjacent_2a little better? C9 only has to play decent to win the league, these past 4 games they’ve been playing like trash and that’s what people are commenting on the current state of c9 not the state of c9 2 weeks ago.

  • @Storm411z
    @Storm411z 11 місяців тому

    I could watch this kind of content all day! I love being able to learn about the players, their mindsets, and just seeing them outside the game that brings us all together.
    This is the same kind of content format that Korea uses to market their k-pop groups, and that is why entertainment is South Korea’s number one export. We get to see them as people and are able to relate to them.

  • @Blastizor
    @Blastizor 11 місяців тому

    Lmao this reminds of the awkward C9 interview with Balls and Lemonation lmaooo

  • @Blastizor
    @Blastizor 11 місяців тому

    Raz = That makes sense.