"What's in the box?" Fun Fact: When filming the "sloth" victim scene, the SWAT officers were NOT told that the victim was still alive. When the victim coughs and scares the SWAT officers, that reaction is real. Location Location Fact: The diner that Somerset (Morgan Freeman) and Tracy (Gwyneth Paltrow) meet at is the same diner that Denzel Washington and Ethan Hawke meet at in Training Day (2001). In fact, they meet in the same booth. It's the Quality Coffee Shop in downtown LA. Standing Together Fact: The ending in the movie is the ending in the original draft of the screenplay that the actors and director had signed on to. Producer Arnold Kopelson had it re-written, and the ending was changed to John Doe (Kevin Spacey) kidnapping Tracy (Gwyneth Paltrow), with Mills and Somerset racing to save her life. When David Fincher, Brad Pitt, and Morgan Freeman read the new ending, they all demanded that the original ending be put back in or they wouldn't do the movie. Art Over Ego Fact: The producers intended that Kevin Spacey should receive top billing at the start of the movie, but he insisted that his name not appear in the opening credits, so as to surprise the audience with the identity of the killer. To compensate, he is listed twice in the closing credits, once before the credits start rolling and once in the rolling credits in order of appearance. Another advantage from Spacey's point of view, as he saw it, was that he was excluded from the film's marketing during its release, meaning he didn't have to make any public appearances or do any interviews.
They put Kevin Spacey first at the end credits because they never mentioned him in the opening credits. He was already a big enough actor, they figured when people didn’t see him by the halfway point of the film, they knew people would assume he must be playing John Doe. Also, the CliffNotes books Mills got were basically the “For Dummies” books of the time. They were study guides and talked about the main focus points of the books, and were used mainly by students who had to write reports but didn’t want to read the whole book, or couldn’t infer the deeper meanings without some guide. Loved the reaction to this classic.
This movie was shopped around Hollywood for quite a while before anyone would make it. It was referred to as “the head in the box” script. Saw it opening night at the Hollywood Blvd Mann Chinese Theater 10:30pm showing, in the back, standing room only. It was so good. No one left. Everyone was silent at the end, dumbfounded, disturbed, in awe. When it ended and the credits started rolling backwards, that was just the icing on the cake. All these actors, the director, the soundtrack artist…they were all blowing up at the time for their recent works. I was 23. I can’t even begin to tell you how many times I’ve seen it since. Used to be my favorite movie, and I’d fall asleep listening to it for nights on end. Also True Romance, The Crow, Pulp Fiction, and Silence Of The Lambs. I was pretty dark in my 20s. I prefer more uplifting media the older I get.
I can imagine the script sitting on desks with people avoiding it like the plague. Took some gumption to make! Standing room only? bet that was a memorable experience. I am excited to revisit this--I know it has immense rewatch value. I fall asleep to pulp fiction all the time to this day haha; I don't believe I have the constitution to do it to this film lol. I also swim in morbid aesthetic waters from time to time. I like to think I balance it out with a healthy dose of ROMCOMS. (don't judge me)
@@MrValentineReacts No judgement. I also indulge in lighthearted, romantic fare, like Titanic or Ghost. Another Tom Hanks favorite besides Forrest Gump that I watch when I need a good cry is A League Of Their Own, a true story, and a great movie about the women’s professional baseball league that arose during WW2.
@@MrValentineReactsBtw, I lived in the lonely landscape of LA for 25 years, my entire adult life, where most of this movie was filmed. I worked in the vapid vacuum of Hollywood for 15 years. Hung out in all the bars, clubs, casinos, alleys,and underground lairs doing lord knows what, far more than any normal, sane person really should. I saw far too much of the underbelly of society explored in this film. I feel like I understand Mills, Somerset, and John Doe. I related so much to the Hemingway quote at the end. Eight years ago, I left it all behind; up and moved to that proverbial log cabin in the woods, in rural Oregon. It really didn’t solve anything in regards to what I was searching for, or leaving behind. There is as much darkness here as there was there.
The Jodie Foster reference is because of John Hinckley Jr. who became "smitten" with Jodie after watching Taxi Driver and decided to shoot President Reagan to impress her. The former Hollywood actor obviously survived but one of the Secret Service men ended up in a wheelchair.
Not to be pedantic, but it was James Brady, the White House Press Secretary, who was put in a wheelchair. And then later became a staunch advocate of gun control. A Secret Service agent was wounded too, but he fully recovered. Also a DC police officer was wounded, receiving permanent nerve damage that forced him to retire from the police.
I just found your channel a week ago. I’m enjoying your reactions so much. I truly love watching others see movies I grew up watching I love seeing your insights to movies and your attention to details and memory. Keep up the fantastic job. Your picking fantastic movies love and prayers
@Mr Valentine the director gives away the film at 35:23 until 37:00 Mills is the hero he refuses to see the world as it is as he believes he can make a difference. An tells Summerset I can't see the world how Summerset does.... and while John Doe corrupts Mills thru anger, it winds up restoring the fight in Summerset to continue the fight to make things right...... I also recommend to you Fight Club, Rear Window, Strangers on a train, and Rope, Psycho, as other great thrillers, as would be Silence of the Lambs, and The Usual Suspects as all are amazing thrillers
19 min mark: FYI, the "Jody Foster made me do it" was a reference not to the movie "Silence of the Lambs", but to John Hinkley (who i think was released a couple of years ago) the guy who tried to kill and shot President Reagan in 1982?/83?, he sent letters to Jody Foster professing his love for her - he was one of those crazy stalker/fans. oh and the reference to "the dog made me do it" was WRT to Berkowitz, i.e. the "son of sam" serial killer in New York City in the late 70 who killed couples in cars. After he was caught, he claimed his neighbor's dog told him to kill those folks. 2 cents.
Remember when I said that Forrest Gump was 1/2 movies my dad took me back to see. Well this was the 2nd one. I was in HS then. After dad took me to see Forrest a year or so later he took me straight from school to watch this. It’s again still in my top 10 movies of all time
Like a kid at Christmas waiting in anticipation for your Se7en reaction. It's one of my favs for sure, combined with hearing your verbal gymnastics, I was throughly enchanted with your musings. May I also say, your proper and timely editing enhances my pleasure. Thank you so much. I'll take this opportunity to suggest "Primal Fear", Edward Nortons best film, Imo.
You got a Subscribe as soon as I heard the Andy Griffith whistle (Serpico reference almost got me). Typically I’m not easily impressed but for someone your age to pull that nostalgia out of your back pocket was unexpected sunshine. Enjoyed your Reaction.
This film gets better every watch. A few things ive picked up in subsequent watches and in reading about the film. John is a dark mirror of the 2 detectives. He is calm, patient and calculated like Somerset but he is also passionate, driven and eager to cause change like Mills. He is jaded with the "city" and fast to anger. I think the biggest instigator of Somerset's change is seeing himself in John The sloth victim. If youre looking there are clues to him being alive. His bed sores are weeping which indicates theyre trying to heal. Also you can see him breathing (which seems like an editor mistake) I originally thought that John spares Mills because he wasnt part of the plan. But then you realise this is after he gave his full name to the photographer. It was that moment he has a "change his plans in light of this little.... Setback". He was realising that Mills was the perfect wrath of God to end his artwork The spot John took the detectives to was chosen for the high voltage power lines. This was to keep the helicopter at a distance This film is a masterpiece. The ending is such a kick in the guts but is utter perfection. Fight Club is another Fincher film you must see
I always have the association with the panoramic shot as they arriving to the final location and you see all these powerline structures and cables, it's like a cathedral with crosses, definitely religious imagery, but maybe that's just me (being an atheist and all)
Great reaction video! You articulated your thoughts clearly and made me really understand what you were thinking while watching this film. Your synopsis was fantastic. You earned a subscriber today Sir.
10:02 Milton's Paradise Lost is most certainly worth a read, if you can separate yourself from the modern mind. If you do get around to it, I would suggest buying a copy that includes Gustave Doré's wonderful ink plates.
Just to make you laugh I want to share this because of your love for words. I am a cancer survivor who has chemo brain. I was a journalist and well educated. I have been sitting here for 20 minutes wondering if I should have said " I guarantee you WILL like it" instead of "woul like it". Only a true lover of all things words would obsess over such a thing. It's a freaking comment. Chemo brain is no joke but I am laughing my way to recovery. Thanks for entertaining an old woman.
Hey Mr V, there's a movie that I know that you'd love, but it's kinda obscure, so not a lot of people will agree with me. 'Little Big Man,' it's one of Dustin Hoffman's finest roles. Chief Dan George, Faye Dunaway, and several others are also great in it.
@MrValentineReacts it's not your normal Western. It is just your style of movie. I'm certain that you'll love it. Also, you'd be the first person to react to it. There's too many people reacting to all the same movies, how's about some originality people!!
Another great reaction, Mr. Valentine. And another great movie. One of those that do stay with you and guide the development of your personality. If you want a detective thriller, I can suggest "Shutter Island" 2010 in case if you haven't seen it.
Years ago, I took a personal day to catch up on two movies that I wanted to see but had missed. I had no clue that "Seven" was as dark as it was, so did not think anything about chosing to follow watching "Babe" with "Seven." That was a sleepless night.
Just here to congratulate you on your continued journey... there'll be many who will watch this with you..and as you've seen this before editing for YT release..you'll understand when I say it's a nerve twisting movie... 🌿🌿🌿
Fincher was accidentally sent an earlier draft of the script where John Doe gives himself up - that was not the intended draft which did not have that twist. But Fincher was amazed by it and the rest is history.
Wow I just discovered you and went to your channel and didn't expect you to watch my favourite movie out of all!! I also liked how you didn't really know it was her head until they said it (was the same for me kinda when I first watched it) which made the reaction even more shocking. Very nice reaction, I couldn't even skip one tiny part because I enjoyed it haha. Keep it going please❤
I'll nominate "Before the Devil Knows Your Dead as a very unique look into the darkness that consumes the mind of a (non-serial) killer. For serial killers, nothing more unsettling than Henke's Funny Games (English remake or the German original).
@contacluj758 Yes and Clint Eastwood's marvellous director work in "Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil" also with Kevin Spacey amidst an outstanding cast.
Not runing when somebody says help is yet another instinct we have evolved for survival purposes your more likely to be killed helping/protecting sumthing or somebody else as oppose to protecting yourself
Loved your reaction! I saw this when it came out in a Marine Corps base theater. So a bunch of young, tough Marines are watching this movie. It was usually loud, lots of talk and laughing, when the credits rolled. But for this movie we got up and walked out without saying a word. Hundreds of us still in shock from the ending. What a movie!
I had that when I saw the first Alien movie in the cinema, the suspense of the chase inside the space ship was so high, that some girls started nervously giggling as they couldn't stand the suspense, the rest was dead quiet.
Awesome reaction and analysis. A couple of comments. Cognitive dissonance is almost the opposite of what Somerset experiences. CD is refusal to reassess a position/belief/self-image despite evidence to the contrary. Somerset is able to hold both the knowledge that he was right (for him) but that that has emotional consequences. He doesn't attempt to bury his feelings so that he can feel justified. As for the government surveillance of citizens...we knew at this time through FOIA requests that the FBI was surveilling citizens throughout Hoover's time as FBI head. We knew in the early 2000's about Carnivore, which was collecting data about people's internet activity without any judicial oversight, much less warrants, and that's even aside from how easy it is for government agencies to get secret warrants through the ... gah, I'm spacing on the name of that court. Interestingly, when the FBI was found out, they didn't stop collecting data, they just renamed it to the innocuous sounding DTS. We also know that the government has the ability and does store phone call traffic and content. Big Data made the collection and analysis of such large datasets possible. The problem is that analysis can't be checked for accuracy, nor do people know about it. When people today come up with bizarre government conspiracy theories like chemtrails or the flat earth or claim they need eighty million firearms to protect against government overreach, I want to scream. There _are_ real conspiracies, but it's nearly impossible to get people to pay attention to them or demand change. And the gov. doesn't care if people have guns. What they need and get is surveillance and data. If they can control the narrative, they have no need of anyone's AK47.
If you like this movie, you may like The Killer. I almost couple the cinematography together. But The Killer is more of a "into the psyche" type movie about the murderer. Same director.
Mr. Valentine, sir, I implore you: If you have not yet seen The Crow (1994) I would be *thrilled* to see you react to it! Please and thank you for your consideration.
If you want a good psychological thriller, I'd suggest "Identity" by James Mangold made in 2003, no, not as good as Se7en, but still a very good movie. I assume you have seen The Game by Fincher, otherwise well worth your time as well.
Could you please react to 'The Butterfly Effect' (2004)? It's a really good movie that no one reacts to (so it very well may bring alot of new viewers to your channel), and I know your audience would like to see the reaction. ❤
This is by FAR the Best, Worst movie EVER. Everything that makes this story so incredible, makes it the worst. It's great to watch over and over..... but I don't want to.
Using big words to try to sound smarter than everyone watching is lame. Don’t even understand half the words you’re saying. Stop showing off it’s not impressive
Tell us you relate with the Cliff Notes reading Detective Mills than the educated Detective Somerset without saying it. You know how some people feel good after working out at the gym? Some of us feel good after working out at the library. You should try it…increase your brain muscles.
@@MrValentineReactsI love your use of vocabulary throughout the movie. It stimulates my brain. By the way, at 12:38 those little books are called Cliffs notes. They are basically the same as books for Dummies, and were very popular in the 90s. They are condensed versions or notes of bigger pieces of literature. Many students used them so they didn’t have to read entire books. Mills was using them to keep up with Somerset.
"What's in the box?"
Fun Fact: When filming the "sloth" victim scene, the SWAT officers were NOT told that the victim was still alive. When the victim coughs and scares the SWAT officers, that reaction is real.
Location Location Fact: The diner that Somerset (Morgan Freeman) and Tracy (Gwyneth Paltrow) meet at is the same diner that Denzel Washington and Ethan Hawke meet at in Training Day (2001). In fact, they meet in the same booth. It's the Quality Coffee Shop in downtown LA.
Standing Together Fact: The ending in the movie is the ending in the original draft of the screenplay that the actors and director had signed on to. Producer Arnold Kopelson had it re-written, and the ending was changed to John Doe (Kevin Spacey) kidnapping Tracy (Gwyneth Paltrow), with Mills and Somerset racing to save her life. When David Fincher, Brad Pitt, and Morgan Freeman read the new ending, they all demanded that the original ending be put back in or they wouldn't do the movie.
Art Over Ego Fact: The producers intended that Kevin Spacey should receive top billing at the start of the movie, but he insisted that his name not appear in the opening credits, so as to surprise the audience with the identity of the killer. To compensate, he is listed twice in the closing credits, once before the credits start rolling and once in the rolling credits in order of appearance. Another advantage from Spacey's point of view, as he saw it, was that he was excluded from the film's marketing during its release, meaning he didn't have to make any public appearances or do any interviews.
Another alternate ending was, that Morgan Freeman sacrifices himself by shooting John Doe before Mills can.
I don’t know if lots of people think of Morgan Freeman for this movie in particular but I think it’s one of his best performances
stupendous!
I couldn't agree more.
They put Kevin Spacey first at the end credits because they never mentioned him in the opening credits. He was already a big enough actor, they figured when people didn’t see him by the halfway point of the film, they knew people would assume he must be playing John Doe.
Also, the CliffNotes books Mills got were basically the “For Dummies” books of the time. They were study guides and talked about the main focus points of the books, and were used mainly by students who had to write reports but didn’t want to read the whole book, or couldn’t infer the deeper meanings without some guide.
Loved the reaction to this classic.
This movie was shopped around Hollywood for quite a while before anyone would make it. It was referred to as “the head in the box” script. Saw it opening night at the Hollywood Blvd Mann Chinese Theater 10:30pm showing, in the back, standing room only. It was so good. No one left. Everyone was silent at the end, dumbfounded, disturbed, in awe. When it ended and the credits started rolling backwards, that was just the icing on the cake. All these actors, the director, the soundtrack artist…they were all blowing up at the time for their recent works. I was 23. I can’t even begin to tell you how many times I’ve seen it since. Used to be my favorite movie, and I’d fall asleep listening to it for nights on end. Also True Romance, The Crow, Pulp Fiction, and Silence Of The Lambs. I was pretty dark in my 20s. I prefer more uplifting media the older I get.
I can imagine the script sitting on desks with people avoiding it like the plague. Took some gumption to make!
Standing room only? bet that was a memorable experience. I am excited to revisit this--I know it has immense rewatch value.
I fall asleep to pulp fiction all the time to this day haha; I don't believe I have the constitution to do it to this film lol. I also swim in morbid aesthetic waters from time to time. I like to think I balance it out with a healthy dose of ROMCOMS. (don't judge me)
@@MrValentineReacts No judgement. I also indulge in lighthearted, romantic fare, like Titanic or Ghost. Another Tom Hanks favorite besides Forrest Gump that I watch when I need a good cry is A League Of Their Own, a true story, and a great movie about the women’s professional baseball league that arose during WW2.
@@MrValentineReactsBtw, I lived in the lonely landscape of LA for 25 years, my entire adult life, where most of this movie was filmed. I worked in the vapid vacuum of Hollywood for 15 years. Hung out in all the bars, clubs, casinos, alleys,and underground lairs doing lord knows what, far more than any normal, sane person really should. I saw far too much of the underbelly of society explored in this film. I feel like I understand Mills, Somerset, and John Doe. I related so much to the Hemingway quote at the end. Eight years ago, I left it all behind; up and moved to that proverbial log cabin in the woods, in rural Oregon. It really didn’t solve anything in regards to what I was searching for, or leaving behind. There is as much darkness here as there was there.
The Jodie Foster reference is because of John Hinckley Jr. who became "smitten" with Jodie after watching Taxi Driver and decided to shoot President Reagan to impress her. The former Hollywood actor obviously survived but one of the Secret Service men ended up in a wheelchair.
Not to be pedantic, but it was James Brady, the White House Press Secretary, who was put in a wheelchair. And then later became a staunch advocate of gun control. A Secret Service agent was wounded too, but he fully recovered. Also a DC police officer was wounded, receiving permanent nerve damage that forced him to retire from the police.
@@Trip_Fontaine You are not being pedantic, really appreciate the correction, I did not know there were 3 people wounded, TY.
Technically, Al Pacino’s “hooah” line is from Scent of a Woman, but Serpico is also a great Pacino film!
Scent of a woman is honestly a really great movie
I just found your channel a week ago. I’m enjoying your reactions so much. I truly love watching others see movies I grew up watching I love seeing your insights to movies and your attention to details and memory. Keep up the fantastic job. Your picking fantastic movies love and prayers
much obliged my friend!
One of the best films of the 90s.
Brad Pitt was in like every classic 90's film. If he's in it...its prob pretty good.
Jodi Foster had a stalker-John Hinkley who attempted to assassinate then President Reagan , saying he wanted to impress the young actress.
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Oh yeah. I remember. Do you remember when Squeeky Fromme from the Manson family tried to assassinate Pre. Gerald Ford?
I dont even need to see the video to know you're going to like the creativity of it all. The movie was very, very good.
incredible!
@Mr Valentine the director gives away the film at 35:23 until 37:00 Mills is the hero he refuses to see the world as it is as he believes he can make a difference. An tells Summerset I can't see the world how Summerset does.... and while John Doe corrupts Mills thru anger, it winds up restoring the fight in Summerset to continue the fight to make things right...... I also recommend to you Fight Club, Rear Window, Strangers on a train, and Rope, Psycho, as other great thrillers, as would be Silence of the Lambs, and The Usual Suspects as all are amazing thrillers
19 min mark: FYI, the "Jody Foster made me do it" was a reference not to the movie "Silence of the Lambs", but to John Hinkley (who i think was released a couple of years ago) the guy who tried to kill and shot President Reagan in 1982?/83?, he sent letters to Jody Foster professing his love for her - he was one of those crazy stalker/fans.
oh and the reference to "the dog made me do it" was WRT to Berkowitz, i.e. the "son of sam" serial killer in New York City in the late 70 who killed couples in cars. After he was caught, he claimed his neighbor's dog told him to kill those folks.
2 cents.
Remember when I said that Forrest Gump was 1/2 movies my dad took me back to see. Well this was the 2nd one. I was in HS then. After dad took me to see Forrest a year or so later he took me straight from school to watch this. It’s again still in my top 10 movies of all time
for good reason!
Forrest Gump came out in 1994, while sev7n came out 1995.
I'm glad I found your channel. You're very entertaining to listen to during these reactions. 👍
truly appreciate your time!!
Like a kid at Christmas waiting in anticipation for your Se7en reaction.
It's one of my favs for sure, combined with hearing your verbal gymnastics, I was throughly enchanted with your musings.
May I also say, your proper and timely editing enhances my pleasure.
Thank you so much.
I'll take this opportunity to suggest "Primal Fear", Edward Nortons best film, Imo.
And his first film, amazingly enough.
thank you for your generosity! Primal Fear, will do 💫
@BDogg2023 Yes it was, interesting story how he landed the part.
I saw this in the theater 3x when I was in high school! This and silence of the lambs were must sees back then. Enjoy! Jon Doe has the upper hand!
Jon Doe was puppeteering from the word go!
@@MrValentineReacts lol he sure was! Such a great movie
You got a Subscribe as soon as I heard the Andy Griffith whistle (Serpico reference almost got me).
Typically I’m not easily impressed but for someone your age to pull that nostalgia out of your back pocket was unexpected sunshine.
Enjoyed your Reaction.
Grateful for your sub! Thank you for watching along with me :)
This film gets better every watch. A few things ive picked up in subsequent watches and in reading about the film.
John is a dark mirror of the 2 detectives. He is calm, patient and calculated like Somerset but he is also passionate, driven and eager to cause change like Mills. He is jaded with the "city" and fast to anger. I think the biggest instigator of Somerset's change is seeing himself in John
The sloth victim. If youre looking there are clues to him being alive. His bed sores are weeping which indicates theyre trying to heal. Also you can see him breathing (which seems like an editor mistake)
I originally thought that John spares Mills because he wasnt part of the plan. But then you realise this is after he gave his full name to the photographer. It was that moment he has a "change his plans in light of this little.... Setback". He was realising that Mills was the perfect wrath of God to end his artwork
The spot John took the detectives to was chosen for the high voltage power lines. This was to keep the helicopter at a distance
This film is a masterpiece. The ending is such a kick in the guts but is utter perfection. Fight Club is another Fincher film you must see
I always have the association with the panoramic shot as they arriving to the final location and you see all these powerline structures and cables, it's like a cathedral with crosses, definitely religious imagery, but maybe that's just me (being an atheist and all)
Great reaction video! You articulated your thoughts clearly and made me really understand what you were thinking while watching this film. Your synopsis was fantastic. You earned a subscriber today Sir.
appreciate your time and your subscription!
10:02 Milton's Paradise Lost is most certainly worth a read, if you can separate yourself from the modern mind. If you do get around to it, I would suggest buying a copy that includes Gustave Doré's wonderful ink plates.
I had the honor of seeing this film opening night 1995…. BLOWN AWAY ….MASTERPIECE!!!!
Very few minds could come up with such a twisted, dark yet brilliant movie, David Fincher is one of them
Thanks for the Frank Zappa reference. 😂😂
I highly recommend the movie Fallen.
Creative storyline told in an amazing way.
Come on people.. upvote for Denzel in Fallen.
You had me at Denzel!
I guarantee you would love it. ❤️
One of my top ten favorite movies.
Child of the 80's so that is a high ranking. Thanks for the reaction.
Just to make you laugh I want to share this because of your love for words.
I am a cancer survivor who has chemo brain. I was a journalist and well educated.
I have been sitting here for 20 minutes wondering if I should have said " I guarantee you WILL like it" instead of "woul like it".
Only a true lover of all things words would obsess over such a thing. It's a freaking comment.
Chemo brain is no joke but I am laughing my way to recovery.
Thanks for entertaining an old woman.
Great recommendation!
Hey Mr V, there's a movie that I know that you'd love, but it's kinda obscure, so not a lot of people will agree with me. 'Little Big Man,' it's one of Dustin Hoffman's finest roles. Chief Dan George, Faye Dunaway, and several others are also great in it.
I keep hearing about 'Little Big Man'!!! sounds like a must watch. Faye Dunaway? sign me up. Forget it jake, it's chinatown
@MrValentineReacts it's not your normal Western. It is just your style of movie. I'm certain that you'll love it. Also, you'd be the first person to react to it. There's too many people reacting to all the same movies, how's about some originality people!!
Another great reaction, Mr. Valentine. And another great movie. One of those that do stay with you and guide the development of your personality.
If you want a detective thriller, I can suggest "Shutter Island" 2010 in case if you haven't seen it.
grateful you watched with me. I've seen Shutter Island; I love Scorsese!!!
The Jodie foster reference is about an assasination attempt that really took place.
Omg, this is gonna be sooooo good!
Edit: I knew this was gonna be a great reaction!
One of the best endings ever!
Years ago, I took a personal day to catch up on two movies that I wanted to see but had missed. I had no clue that "Seven" was as dark as it was, so did not think anything about chosing to follow watching "Babe" with "Seven."
That was a sleepless night.
that is a double feature for the ages!!! Babe/Seven (Sabe/Beven?) was the original BARBENHEIMER
Just here to congratulate you on your continued journey... there'll be many who will watch this with you..and as you've seen this before editing for YT release..you'll understand when I say it's a nerve twisting movie...
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much appreciated! yeah this movie was unbelievable
Fincher was accidentally sent an earlier draft of the script where John Doe gives himself up - that was not the intended draft which did not have that twist.
But Fincher was amazed by it and the rest is history.
Wow I just discovered you and went to your channel and didn't expect you to watch my favourite movie out of all!! I also liked how you didn't really know it was her head until they said it (was the same for me kinda when I first watched it) which made the reaction even more shocking. Very nice reaction, I couldn't even skip one tiny part because I enjoyed it haha. Keep it going please❤
I'll nominate "Before the Devil Knows Your Dead as a very unique look into the darkness that consumes the mind of a (non-serial) killer. For serial killers, nothing more unsettling than Henke's Funny Games (English remake or the German original).
My rec for a thriller: "LA Confidential"
@contacluj758 Yes and Clint Eastwood's marvellous director work in "Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil" also with Kevin Spacey amidst an outstanding cast.
Not runing when somebody says help is yet another instinct we have evolved for survival purposes your more likely to be killed helping/protecting sumthing or somebody else as oppose to protecting yourself
Loved your reaction! I saw this when it came out in a Marine Corps base theater. So a bunch of young, tough Marines are watching this movie. It was usually loud, lots of talk and laughing, when the credits rolled. But for this movie we got up and walked out without saying a word. Hundreds of us still in shock from the ending. What a movie!
Thank you for viewing it with me. 'Tis an arresting tale through and through! I bet that theater was a sight to behold.
I had that when I saw the first Alien movie in the cinema, the suspense of the chase inside the space ship was so high, that some girls started nervously giggling as they couldn't stand the suspense, the rest was dead quiet.
Awesome reaction and analysis. A couple of comments. Cognitive dissonance is almost the opposite of what Somerset experiences. CD is refusal to reassess a position/belief/self-image despite evidence to the contrary. Somerset is able to hold both the knowledge that he was right (for him) but that that has emotional consequences. He doesn't attempt to bury his feelings so that he can feel justified. As for the government surveillance of citizens...we knew at this time through FOIA requests that the FBI was surveilling citizens throughout Hoover's time as FBI head. We knew in the early 2000's about Carnivore, which was collecting data about people's internet activity without any judicial oversight, much less warrants, and that's even aside from how easy it is for government agencies to get secret warrants through the ... gah, I'm spacing on the name of that court. Interestingly, when the FBI was found out, they didn't stop collecting data, they just renamed it to the innocuous sounding DTS. We also know that the government has the ability and does store phone call traffic and content. Big Data made the collection and analysis of such large datasets possible. The problem is that analysis can't be checked for accuracy, nor do people know about it. When people today come up with bizarre government conspiracy theories like chemtrails or the flat earth or claim they need eighty million firearms to protect against government overreach, I want to scream. There _are_ real conspiracies, but it's nearly impossible to get people to pay attention to them or demand change. And the gov. doesn't care if people have guns. What they need and get is surveillance and data. If they can control the narrative, they have no need of anyone's AK47.
Suggestion: the Devil’s Advocate with Al Pacino, Keanu Reeves, Charlize Theron and Connie Nielsen.
Sins of Vanity.
Woohoo! Here we go. I missed the stream…dagnabbit. Such an elaborate, dark thriller. Love from Seattle as usual! ❤
much love 🤙🏽 An inventive and engaging picture!
I always learn a new word while watching your reactions (actually more than just one, tbh). I appreciate that. 👍🏻
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I just watched this for the first time, jumped straight on here to see if you had done a reaction 😅 That was frustrating as hell!!
Wasn’t his plan all along my friend. Remember, he adjusted.
Great review and reaction 😃! Subscribed.
You need to check out The Negotiator next. It has Kevin Spacey who also played the killer in this. Great tense thriller of a movie.
You definitely have to read Paradise Lost, it's referenced often.
I see Isabel and Trip clarified the Jody Foster thing below, My prior post was before I saw the below posts. Sorry for being redundant.
Taking Lives with Angelina Jolie is another great thriller
@12:40 when you said daunte's for dummies, those are cliff notes which are essentially the same thing.
Jodie foster Reference Towards Hinckley who shot Reagan And Connelly
Law abiding citizen with Gerard Butler is pretty good
What's in the box?!? - a question that scarred a generation.
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OPh snap "Detective Mills *wrath* was directed at the wrong.." etc... you called it and don't even kow it yet this is great
If you've "missed" something as prominent as Seven, then you've probably missed these: Predestination, Triangle and Angel Heart. Just a heads up. ;)
"She is with child. I almost forgot."
Partially. 😳
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The cinematography has a 1940's feel to it.
If you like this movie, you may like The Killer. I almost couple the cinematography together. But The Killer is more of a "into the psyche" type movie about the murderer. Same director.
I'm invested
Have you ever watched Frequency (2000), if not please consider reacting to it.
Mr. Valentine, sir, I implore you: If you have not yet seen The Crow (1994) I would be *thrilled* to see you react to it!
Please and thank you for your consideration.
"I'm Detective Mills."
"No. You're Brad Pitt, actually.... Nice try."
Nice. That's a great joke, actually... Well done.
this was directed [?] by Fincher, you NEED to watch the MindHunter series, 2 seasons.
Paradise lost and Dante's inferno (trilogy, though) are must reads.....666 steps down the abyss
Great googly moogly! I say that too. Can't remember where I first heard it. Was it Frank Zappa?
Btw, Earnest Hemingway committed suicide. Ironically.
Would you convict Mills if you were on his jury?
Lucifer was the first angel. Shaytan was an equal to God. They are two separate entities.
One of my favourite movies :)
If you want a good psychological thriller, I'd suggest "Identity" by James Mangold made in 2003, no, not as good as Se7en, but still a very good movie.
I assume you have seen The Game by Fincher, otherwise well worth your time as well.
Se7enth!
No way out.
I like your vocabulary. Cheers from Canada.
Cheers! 🤙🏽
great reaction
On a video editing note. Why all the bloom and brightness effects added on the movie? It's a dark movie, looks ridiculous with those effect.
visual copyright
Thumbs up...plus a gold star for use of the term cognitive dissonance ❤
Could you please react to 'The Butterfly Effect' (2004)?
It's a really good movie that no one reacts to (so it very well may bring alot of new viewers to your channel), and I know your audience would like to see the reaction. ❤
absolutely!
Please watch "Fight Club". I guarantee you'll like it.
What’s in the box?
Check bucket list…
Crosses off “pegging”…
Why did I choose to watch this right after dinner? I wasn’t thinking, that’s the problem 🤢
hahaha you trusted your constitution!
The original jigsaw?
This is by FAR the Best, Worst movie EVER. Everything that makes this story so incredible, makes it the worst. It's great to watch over and over..... but I don't want to.
Unsettling.........yep.😑
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Spacey didn't need to act, they told him to show up and be himself
Using big words to try to sound smarter than everyone watching is lame. Don’t even understand half the words you’re saying. Stop showing off it’s not impressive
hey, I appreciate your engagement! The expression 'using big words' has always tickled me lol
Tell us you relate with the Cliff Notes reading Detective Mills than the educated Detective Somerset without saying it.
You know how some people feel good after working out at the gym? Some of us feel good after working out at the library. You should try it…increase your brain muscles.
@@BDogg2023 keep fanboying over a UA-camr lol you look so cool
@@sweetkiss119 Fanboying over a UA-camr? When did I ever mention the host of this channel? Lol. Be quiet, child…your ignorance is showing.
@@MrValentineReactsI love your use of vocabulary throughout the movie. It stimulates my brain. By the way, at 12:38 those little books are called Cliffs notes. They are basically the same as books for Dummies, and were very popular in the 90s. They are condensed versions or notes of bigger pieces of literature. Many students used them so they didn’t have to read entire books. Mills was using them to keep up with Somerset.
Hate this movie.
it's tough