The worst part was we ALL could see ourselves killing the guy if he did that to a person we loved - but in doing so, he won and died a martyr in his own mind. If the detective could have had just a moment of rational thought in the midst of his devastation, he could have let the guy live and taken his revenge by coldly telling the guy "You'll be talked about for a few months, then your name will be lost to history... simply because I BEAT YOU by not being Wrath in your twisted freak show, you sick fuck! You thought you were so smart, but a Neanderthal like me beat you. Remember that as you are forgotten by the world, alone in the night wondering how it went wrong." It would be the hardest thing I could ever do, but watching him writhe in torment without his carefully planned masterpiece finished would give me decades more satisfaction and revenge than killing him quickly.
The directors didn't tell the actors that the Sloth character was being played by a person. As far as they knew, it was a rubber mannequin, and so the reaction they got when he moved was from the first take, and completely genuine.
@@orangewarm1He's a CIA trained spy so I assume it's just reflex. Brad, Angelina, Tom, Jimmy Fallon, Keanu and the list goes on. All suspected of espionage by countries they've visited for "film shooting purposes" and they openly admit to having trained at The Farm in Virginia and also many branches of the military. The celebrity thing is actually better for them because most of the time when they go to another country they are loved by the masses but still scrutinized by the government just like any outsider of any kind. The thing is that it's like bribing your way behind enemy lines because the countries they visit get tourists wanting to see where a scene from mission impossible was shot or something. This has been a concept since the late eighteen hundreds. Edit: to clarify back then it was less movie stars and more musicians and dancers or other kinds of performers.
One of the most uncompromising endings in movie history, and Fincher delivered it brilliantly. It's also wild when you realize that NONE of John Doe's murders actually happen onscreen - and the worst one (Lust) doesn't even show us the body, instead letting our imaginations provide all the horror.
The man involved in the "Lust" kill is so hysterical/terrified... the actor completely sold it. Not sure where the actor went in his mind to find that emotion, but I hope he doesn't have to go there again.
He played a Doctor in 'er' and was always my favourite (after Dr Greene 🥰); I also saw him pop-up in the first Taken movie - legit support character to Liam 😎 @@slimmccoy8863
Fincher knew exactly what he was doing when he poorly lit this movie. The less you saw, the more you wanted to see what the dark was hiding. It's brilliant. Notice the only scenes in the movie that were well lit was when Mills' wife was in it ? (Even when it was only her "pretty head") Fincher was no dummy. Perfectly executed(excuse the pun) Gloom, doom, unthinkable ways to kill another human being. That's why this film is so memorable, the pace, the lighting, the script was perfectly acted out and that ending was perfect as devastating as it was. Some movies do not deserve a happy ending. This one was no exception. The perfect crime/thriller/horror movie.
They actually didn’t change his voice, Kevin Spacey is really good at impressions and voices. You can find a bunch of them online in old interviews. That’s all him
Disturbing is definetly the word for this movie for sure. I have seen a lot of reactors that say well that is a movie I never want to watch again, I don't like feeling this depressed or having such a bad day. But they also tend to say it is an amazing movie and it lingers with people for a long time, I think we all have this movie staying rent free in our mind for a while at least the concepts of it and contemplating it. Ty for another great reaction.
If u really never seen this I am very impressed how quickly u caught on and put the pieces together! Another reason why you're my fav reaction channel! Please do city of god and natural born killers! Would love to hear your take on those!
As someone coming from law enforcement and military background, what you know and see on a daily basis shapes how you see society, so I understand Summerset. People can drive around town and look at shops and parks, but I see places where I've been shot at, spat on, where a drug dealer lives, an alley where someone overdosed, a house where we found dead children. People do disgusting and terrible things to each other and over years of trying to stop it, you realize that no matter what you do on a small scale, the crime, pain and suffering people inflict on each other does not change. There's a reason our professions have a very high suicide and alcohol abuse rates.
After all the 'trouble' and planning he went to, for it to be Brad to give him (the final two) Wrath...I wonder who else he could've chosen within the timeline..? I thought I heard John Doe say he had to (sic) "change things a bit" after they broke into his apartment..
Outstanding film. The final scene is built so well that, even though the reveal had been spoiled for me, it still had me holding my breath. John Doe is an absolute chess master. Mills being the sinner of "Wrath" was fairly telegraphed. I was head-faked into thinking that Somerset was guilty of "Envy", based on his discussion of his previous relationship that was "like a marriage", and the child he didn't get to have.
I clicked so fast when I saw this recommended. One of my favorite creators reacting to one of my favorite movies. Also, the term "serial deletor" is pretty ominous.
This movie is such a treat and though respected I still feel that it's underrated! I have played with the thought about Freeman being the villian and being so sick of the state of the city and the world that he would be the one doing the things to give them a case thay couldn't follow to the end.. but other than that this movie is on my top 20 and perhaps top 10 list.
I remember seeing this in the theater. It was and still is the only time that after the movie was over EVERYONE just walked out in silence, thinking about how messed up the ending was. Brilliant and disturbing movie.
There is something that brings so much comfort watching you react to a movie, trying to figure it out.. your thoughts. It brings calm and comfort to your community. Just wanted to Thank you for that
I was 12 when this came out and saw it, i didnt get a lot of it, but i was completely taken by it, it made me want to learn how to write scripts because it was so spectacular.
I don't want to get into the whole a-word thing but my wife and I got together in HS. I was 17 and she was 16. For the next 12 years we always were careful and had said that we wouldn't want to keep a baby. The second she told me that she was carrying it changed for me. I told her how I felt and I think she carried our son, mostly, for me. At least until she held him and I knew she was going to love him fiercely. If she would have said that she didn't want to carry him i would have been disappointed but it really was her decision alone. I told her how I felt but also that I would stand by whatever she decided. I mean, I couldn't force her to give me a kidney if it meant saving my life. She also saw that pregnancy had changed her sister's body forever and she was scared. She ended up getting gestational diabetes and it was a hard 9 months for her. Our son turns 13 next month and we couldn't be happier.
The thing about great lighting is that there are lighting tricks when you think their aren’t . That’s the art of lighting is knowing how to make it look like it isn’t even there.
I think sloth in general may be the least corrosive at the end of the day. Self destruction is certainly a net negative, but if it's only self (as much as anything -can- be), I'll take it over the others
Only movie I walked out of where like everyone was quiet. Stunned silence, it was kinda crazy. You could see everyone just take a deep breath as they exited the theater. Look at the person they were with and say that was crazy or that was messed up,or holy sh$&.
Not the only movie. The Mist was the most disturbing ending I've ever seen and when we saw it, not only was there complete silence but people didn't stand up to leave until a fair way into the credits. We just sat there in shock and disbelief. Some people were sitting there with their head in their hands. But this movie and Oldboy tie for second place in most disturbing endings for me.
One thing that doesn't get noticed in this film very often is that John is a sick mirror to Mills and Summerset. On the one hand he is calm, patient and smart which are qualities of Summerset while also being jaded with humanity within "the city". He also has the ambition and recklessness to make a difference like Mills. By the end of the film I think Summerset saw more in common with John than David and it disturbed him. That's why he stayed on the force. There is also an art to the lack of gore in this film. Take the lust murder for example. The scene ratchets up the tension with the chaos and noise of the brothel, the obvious trauma of the client and the suspense. Then with a photo shown for a moment Fincher allowed your mind to do the rest. In fact that scene almost gets worse on second viewing because (at least in my case) the imagination gets more vivid Really great reaction dude. For another great David Fincher film Fight Club is another classic
I’m the same age you are. But my father owned a video store back then so I saw pretty much everything young. I said it then people said when I was older I’d change my mind but no. I still feel the same. Ain’t no bigger person. He needed to go.
I think that Morgan told her that if she's going to get an abortion then never tell him is a fair protection of his emotions...in this particular situation. If you don't want the baby then not bringing the husband into the knowledge (in some situations, but not all) might the wisest choice. In other situations then the father ought to know, but in this one it MIGHT be right to protect the husband's emotional well being.
Yea, I don't think any jury would really convict him. While he is guilty of 2nd degree murder, the circumstances would definitely be taken into consideration. Every single juror would be able to put themselves into his shoes about the person who had just murdered your wife and child. The gloating on the police recordings would definitely be played and he'd be sent home.
Since you liked this film , try Resurrection (1999).Stars Christopher Lambert , Robert Joy , and Leland Orser. (He was also in Seven as the guy who wore the "leather knife outfit") A seriously underrated SK film. Any one else seem it?
I don’t know if you know or not but, Morgan Freeman character name is “Detective Alex Cross", off the James Patterson book character. Well there’s another movie called "Kiss the Girls”, Morgan Freeman is also on that film as "Detective Alex Cross”. My opinion is both of them movies are tied together in some weird way. Worth checking out..!!!.. Great reaction, One of my favorite movie endings by the way, good selection.📽🎞📺👏🏽👮🏻♀👮🏾♂👨🏼🦲📦
I was fortunate enough to have seen this in the theatre during its first run (yes, I'm old). The lighting was *perfect* on the big screen. This movie is meant to be watched that way. Perhaps that addresses your small gripe about that.
Back before UA-cam it was difficult to get your hands on movie previews. Most of the time if you saw one it was in the theater watching a different movie. during the nineties at least whenever a new movie came out the first couple times they show the preview they would show the whole theatrical preview during a commercial break and then after the first time or two it would be a heavily edited version of the preview at least on TV until the movie came out. They had announced that this preview was going to play and I recorded it on videotape and is one of the most engaging movie previews I've ever seen and I watched that preview a million times before the movie came out. Then I went to the movie theater to watch the movie and was absolutely Blown Away but how good it was. I've been a huge David Fincher fan ever since
The director, David Fincher, had gotten his movie debut directing Alien 3. He was an up and coming director and the studio was in control and that was a terrible experience for him. So with this movie he made sure he was in control and that certainly paid off. Handsomely. There was one other noteworthy conflict between Fincher and the studio/producers on another later project regarding a single line of dialog. In the scene after a couple have slept together the female character said "I want to have your abortion". That crossed the line, Fincher could do whatever he wanted but the producers were adamant that that line had to go. So Fincher made an agreement with them. He would remove the line but he would write a replacement and whatever he came up with, the studio HAD to accept it. They agreed and so it went. If you want to know what replaced it you just have to watch 'Fight Club', in my opinion one of the best movies of the nineties.
I just hit pause when the voice is recognized frpm Pay It Forward ... Kevin Spacey isnt being realized as Verbal? Have we not watched The Usual Suspects on this channel yet!?
This was the movie that after watching in the theatre had everyone debating. 1/2 saying I would've killed him.. .1/2 say you let him win. What was interesting is no one was saying you can't kill people. Everyone was OK with that... they just didn't want him to win.
Highly recommend getting the special edition Blu-ray I'm not sure if the forecast out yet but doesn't matter there's like 4 commentaries on the disc the making of features are spectacular definitely should be owned as a physical copy I recently watched it with my son he watched it for the first time and it blew his mind.. I'll never forget seeing it in the theater and then I watch the film often music the lighting the whole damn reduction is one of David fincher's greatest films!! As well as Zodiac another one I highly recommend opening the physical copy.
Most people agree that David shouldn’t have deleted John but I would have pulled the trigger for sure. “If you do this, he will win” WIN? He already won. He took the life of his child and wife. People’s lives aren’t a game. What is he winning? Who am I trying to be a better person for? John Doe? David did exactly what I would have done. Like you said….he had to go!!
@@MaynardsSpaceshipI think that's the difference between when you consider &/or believe what happens to peoples souls after their body ceases to exist x
I got to tell you I applaud you for noticing the photographer on the stairs because I guarantee in 90% of the people who watch this movie didn't pay much attention. I know I didn't. Very astute of you my good sir
I have always maintained that I agree with the detective in the beginning when asked if the kid saw it. What resolution could possibly come from knowing if the kid saw his mother kill her husband? Especially if the kid is now dead because he was killed by the mother. What’re you send a dead kid to therapy, or just simply walk around harboring the knowledge that he most likely did witness his mother kill his father with no way to resolve it? Come on now people. I happen to believe Somerset asked for his own peace of mind, and not because he’s knows he’ll be able to do anything about it. He knows he’s been working in that hellish environment for so long that at that point he’s grasping at straws just to find any kind of peace of mind.
16:40 that's the thing, people complain about cops being trigger happy, but they never consider the horrors those cops witness on a daily basis, horrors committed by, you know, people. Cops alone aren't to blame for the rise in "police brutality", civilians share just as much blame, if not more.
If you would like to carry on carrying on in this noir genre then may I make the recommendation of INSOMNIA with Al Pacino (another detective noir) or The Sisters Brothers which is western noir a la Coen Brothers.
John Doe is a judgement of society. Are we guilty as a society for accepting these sins as ok or committing them ourselves? If we are guilty, what punishment do we deserve? If we absolve Mills for his wrathful sin in the end, do we really care about right and wrong? Where do we, individually and as a society, draw the line?
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I like your video
I feel that Envy is the worst for the humanity.Envy is a title of a great comedy that you have to watch.
ending would be wrath more than vengence i think.
The worst part was we ALL could see ourselves killing the guy if he did that to a person we loved - but in doing so, he won and died a martyr in his own mind. If the detective could have had just a moment of rational thought in the midst of his devastation, he could have let the guy live and taken his revenge by coldly telling the guy "You'll be talked about for a few months, then your name will be lost to history... simply because I BEAT YOU by not being Wrath in your twisted freak show, you sick fuck! You thought you were so smart, but a Neanderthal like me beat you. Remember that as you are forgotten by the world, alone in the night wondering how it went wrong." It would be the hardest thing I could ever do, but watching him writhe in torment without his carefully planned masterpiece finished would give me decades more satisfaction and revenge than killing him quickly.
You need to watch The Game next with Michael Douglas. It’s different but keeps you intrigued the whole movie like this one
He did the thing!!! “Bro, what’s in that box!?” 😂 excellent reaction!!
The directors didn't tell the actors that the Sloth character was being played by a person. As far as they knew, it was a rubber mannequin, and so the reaction they got when he moved was from the first take, and completely genuine.
You mean Brad pointed an unloaded weapon expecting to defend himself?
@@orangewarm1He's a CIA trained spy so I assume it's just reflex. Brad, Angelina, Tom, Jimmy Fallon, Keanu and the list goes on. All suspected of espionage by countries they've visited for "film shooting purposes" and they openly admit to having trained at The Farm in Virginia and also many branches of the military. The celebrity thing is actually better for them because most of the time when they go to another country they are loved by the masses but still scrutinized by the government just like any outsider of any kind. The thing is that it's like bribing your way behind enemy lines because the countries they visit get tourists wanting to see where a scene from mission impossible was shot or something. This has been a concept since the late eighteen hundreds.
Edit: to clarify back then it was less movie stars and more musicians and dancers or other kinds of performers.
@@orangewarm1you think it was a single take?
@@orangewarm1 So it turns out they can cut and edit film! It sounds insane, I know
@@READY_OR_NOT Just like Chuck Barris Gong Show and CIA agent.
One of the most uncompromising endings in movie history, and Fincher delivered it brilliantly. It's also wild when you realize that NONE of John Doe's murders actually happen onscreen - and the worst one (Lust) doesn't even show us the body, instead letting our imaginations provide all the horror.
The man involved in the "Lust" kill is so hysterical/terrified... the actor completely sold it. Not sure where the actor went in his mind to find that emotion, but I hope he doesn't have to go there again.
He played a Doctor in 'er' and was always my favourite (after Dr Greene 🥰); I also saw him pop-up in the first Taken movie - legit support character to Liam 😎 @@slimmccoy8863
That knife strap-on is the visual that stayed with me for decades, lol.
I saw a film (subsequently banned) as a child with this same imagery -- it definitely stays with you 🤪🤪
Fincher knew exactly what he was doing when he poorly lit this movie.
The less you saw, the more you wanted to see what the dark was hiding.
It's brilliant.
Notice the only scenes in the movie that were well lit was when Mills' wife was in it ? (Even when it was only her "pretty head")
Fincher was no dummy.
Perfectly executed(excuse the pun)
Gloom, doom, unthinkable ways to kill another human being.
That's why this film is so memorable, the pace, the lighting, the script was perfectly acted out and that ending was perfect as devastating as it was.
Some movies do not deserve a happy ending.
This one was no exception.
The perfect crime/thriller/horror movie.
They actually didn’t change his voice, Kevin Spacey is really good at impressions and voices. You can find a bunch of them online in old interviews. That’s all him
You gotta be a good actor to get away with being a pedo for as long as he did 😎
@@murphy1011 except his characters always came off creepy and weird, even when they weren’t. Maybe he wasn’t as great as we thought…
@@MojiBeauyou only say that now tho
Let's take a look though.... Kesir, Pay It Forward, That American Beauty film had him too no...🤔?@@b2g121795
This was a great reaction. Pretty obvious how much it engaged you. Probably my favorite movie of this genre. So well written and acted.
Now whenever you may hear "what's in the box?" You'll know where it's from.
Spectacular reaction to this masterpiece 👍👍
Have you ever seen Frailty? One of my favorite movies about religious delusional psychosis.
He should 100% watch Frailty
Disturbing is definetly the word for this movie for sure. I have seen a lot of reactors that say well that is a movie I never want to watch again, I don't like feeling this depressed or having such a bad day. But they also tend to say it is an amazing movie and it lingers with people for a long time, I think we all have this movie staying rent free in our mind for a while at least the concepts of it and contemplating it.
Ty for another great reaction.
If u really never seen this I am very impressed how quickly u caught on and put the pieces together! Another reason why you're my fav reaction channel! Please do city of god and natural born killers! Would love to hear your take on those!
Yaassss!!! NBK is one of my ALL TIME FAVORITE movies ❤️🔥 would love to get his take on all the visuals
As someone coming from law enforcement and military background, what you know and see on a daily basis shapes how you see society, so I understand Summerset.
People can drive around town and look at shops and parks, but I see places where I've been shot at, spat on, where a drug dealer lives, an alley where someone overdosed, a house where we found dead children. People do disgusting and terrible things to each other and over years of trying to stop it, you realize that no matter what you do on a small scale, the crime, pain and suffering people inflict on each other does not change. There's a reason our professions have a very high suicide and alcohol abuse rates.
The killer was Envy of Brad and Brad was wrath for the killing his wife....completes the seven. What a great film.
After all the 'trouble' and planning he went to, for it to be Brad to give him (the final two) Wrath...I wonder who else he could've chosen within the timeline..? I thought I heard John Doe say he had to (sic) "change things a bit" after they broke into his apartment..
The Bone Collector was another good one.. I believe it came out about the same time period.
The 7 deadly sins in order of the movie:
Gluttony, Greed, Sloth, Lust, Pride Envy (John Doe), and Wrath (Mills)
MrL, I have watched MANY reactions to this movie, and I must say, yours was amazing! The way that you analyzed it was impeccable!
Outstanding film. The final scene is built so well that, even though the reveal had been spoiled for me, it still had me holding my breath.
John Doe is an absolute chess master.
Mills being the sinner of "Wrath" was fairly telegraphed.
I was head-faked into thinking that Somerset was guilty of "Envy", based on his discussion of his previous relationship that was "like a marriage", and the child he didn't get to have.
I clicked so fast when I saw this recommended. One of my favorite creators reacting to one of my favorite movies. Also, the term "serial deletor" is pretty ominous.
The bad guy dies but wins, it's crazy
This movie is such a treat and though respected I still feel that it's underrated!
I have played with the thought about Freeman being the villian and being so sick of the state of the city and the world that he would be the one doing the things to give them a case thay couldn't follow to the end.. but other than that this movie is on my top 20 and perhaps top 10 list.
Next up should be the movie “The Mist”….. excellent case study in madness and hope
You are 99% more observant than pretty much anyone who has ever watched this. I'm impressed. Most of us were completely blindsided.
One of my favorite movies of all time. David Fincher does great work.
I can't hear "Dingleberry" without thinking of George Carlin.
They purposefully didn't include Kevin Spacey in the promos or press prior to the film to shock the audience as to who the antagonist is.
🥚Easter Egg: 3:53 That actor saying that line for this film (1995) harkening back to his role in Full Metal Jacket (1987).
23:19 - He meant it can't be used in court.
I remember seeing this in the theater. It was and still is the only time that after the movie was over EVERYONE just walked out in silence, thinking about how messed up the ending was. Brilliant and disturbing movie.
Vanity is a form of Pride. It used to be called vainglory then over time it was put into pride. Being prideful of your appearance
Enjoyed your reaction, thank you. I have another brilliant disturbing movie for you; "Frailty."
There is something that brings so much comfort watching you react to a movie, trying to figure it out.. your thoughts. It brings calm and comfort to your community. Just wanted to Thank you for that
you should watch the bucket list if you want to see Morgan Freeman laugh
In the end, we all felt wrath toward John Doe.
Classic; regarded as a mostly-unsung gem in the noir/thriller/detective-perspective genre.
The track in the opening credits is “Closer Precursor” by Nine Inch Nails, a remix of “Closer”.
This was my favourite movie in junior high.
I was 12 when this came out and saw it, i didnt get a lot of it, but i was completely taken by it, it made me want to learn how to write scripts because it was so spectacular.
22:53 - He was being sarcastic, LB.
I don’t think it’s rare either. I just celebrated my 31st wedding anniversary. I’m in forever and am very happily married.
😘🥰🤗☺️❤️
I don't want to get into the whole a-word thing but my wife and I got together in HS. I was 17 and she was 16. For the next 12 years we always were careful and had said that we wouldn't want to keep a baby. The second she told me that she was carrying it changed for me. I told her how I felt and I think she carried our son, mostly, for me. At least until she held him and I knew she was going to love him fiercely. If she would have said that she didn't want to carry him i would have been disappointed but it really was her decision alone. I told her how I felt but also that I would stand by whatever she decided. I mean, I couldn't force her to give me a kidney if it meant saving my life. She also saw that pregnancy had changed her sister's body forever and she was scared. She ended up getting gestational diabetes and it was a hard 9 months for her. Our son turns 13 next month and we couldn't be happier.
The thing about great lighting is that there are lighting tricks when you think their aren’t . That’s the art of lighting is knowing how to make it look like it isn’t even there.
Loved this reaction s Mr L Boyd. Now you know what the "Whats in the box?" meme is all about.
😂😂😂
I think sloth in general may be the least corrosive at the end of the day. Self destruction is certainly a net negative, but if it's only self (as much as anything -can- be), I'll take it over the others
Excellent reaction! I loved watching you process everything.
A phenomenal thriller. All the details just keep your mind racing to the very end. Morgan Freeman Brad Pitt and Kevin Spacey couldn't ask for more
Only movie I walked out of where like everyone was quiet. Stunned silence, it was kinda crazy. You could see everyone just take a deep breath as they exited the theater. Look at the person they were with and say that was crazy or that was messed up,or holy sh$&.
Not the only movie.
The Mist was the most disturbing ending I've ever seen and when we saw it, not only was there complete silence but people didn't stand up to leave until a fair way into the credits. We just sat there in shock and disbelief. Some people were sitting there with their head in their hands.
But this movie and Oldboy tie for second place in most disturbing endings for me.
But I guess I should add that I meant not the only movie for me. You might not have seen it so could be only movie for you.
This is genuinely one of my favorite movies. It was spellbinding, I couldn’t blink.
'The world is a fine place and worth fighting for.’ I agree with the second part
One thing that doesn't get noticed in this film very often is that John is a sick mirror to Mills and Summerset. On the one hand he is calm, patient and smart which are qualities of Summerset while also being jaded with humanity within "the city". He also has the ambition and recklessness to make a difference like Mills. By the end of the film I think Summerset saw more in common with John than David and it disturbed him. That's why he stayed on the force.
There is also an art to the lack of gore in this film. Take the lust murder for example. The scene ratchets up the tension with the chaos and noise of the brothel, the obvious trauma of the client and the suspense. Then with a photo shown for a moment Fincher allowed your mind to do the rest. In fact that scene almost gets worse on second viewing because (at least in my case) the imagination gets more vivid
Really great reaction dude. For another great David Fincher film Fight Club is another classic
Please watch Frailty with Matthew McCaughnahy and The Bone Collector with Angelina Jolie and Denzel. Similar feeling movies
I’m the same age you are. But my father owned a video store back then so I saw pretty much everything young. I said it then people said when I was older I’d change my mind but no. I still feel the same. Ain’t no bigger person. He needed to go.
I think that Morgan told her that if she's going to get an abortion then never tell him is a fair protection of his emotions...in this particular situation. If you don't want the baby then not bringing the husband into the knowledge (in some situations, but not all) might the wisest choice. In other situations then the father ought to know, but in this one it MIGHT be right to protect the husband's emotional well being.
Welcome to 1995's best new game show "WHAT"S IN THE BOX?"
Classic. Excellent choice!
Yea, I don't think any jury would really convict him. While he is guilty of 2nd degree murder, the circumstances would definitely be taken into consideration. Every single juror would be able to put themselves into his shoes about the person who had just murdered your wife and child. The gloating on the police recordings would definitely be played and he'd be sent home.
Fantastic reaction! One of my favourite reactors and I’m so glad you’ve been doing more movies.
Since you liked this film , try Resurrection (1999).Stars Christopher Lambert , Robert Joy , and Leland Orser. (He was also in Seven as the guy who wore the "leather knife outfit") A seriously underrated SK film. Any one else seem it?
Luck Number Slevin, a 2006 movie is a great watch.
This movie was super popular when I was in college. I remember going to see it at least twice.
Your BEST reaction so far!!! Loved it!!!
It is a traumatizing movie, for sure. It makes your mind have to go to some dark places!
I don’t know if you know or not but, Morgan Freeman character name is “Detective Alex Cross", off the James Patterson book character. Well there’s another movie called "Kiss the Girls”, Morgan Freeman is also on that film as "Detective Alex Cross”. My opinion is both of them movies are tied together in some weird way. Worth checking out..!!!.. Great reaction, One of my favorite movie endings by the way, good selection.📽🎞📺👏🏽👮🏻♀👮🏾♂👨🏼🦲📦
Another fantastic movie with Kevin Spacey is "The Usuals Suspects". Decent ending there too!
I was fortunate enough to have seen this in the theatre during its first run (yes, I'm old).
The lighting was *perfect* on the big screen. This movie is meant to be watched that way. Perhaps that addresses your small gripe about that.
I can't watch this movie again, but I do think that it should be watched at least once! Great reaction
Back before UA-cam it was difficult to get your hands on movie previews. Most of the time if you saw one it was in the theater watching a different movie. during the nineties at least whenever a new movie came out the first couple times they show the preview they would show the whole theatrical preview during a commercial break and then after the first time or two it would be a heavily edited version of the preview at least on TV until the movie came out. They had announced that this preview was going to play and I recorded it on videotape and is one of the most engaging movie previews I've ever seen and I watched that preview a million times before the movie came out. Then I went to the movie theater to watch the movie and was absolutely Blown Away but how good it was. I've been a huge David Fincher fan ever since
As minor as it seems I love that you say deleted and deletion in the same serious tone every time.
Same 😂😂.
The world is is a fine place and worth fighting for - I agree with the second part
Best closing line of a film I can think of
If you do watch this again looking for clues, pay close attention to the scene when they are first talking about the 7 deadly sins.
"Serial deleter"?? You have created your own set of rules man! You can say the word "killer", nothing says otherwise in the policies!
The director, David Fincher, had gotten his movie debut directing Alien 3. He was an up and coming director and the studio was in control and that was a terrible experience for him. So with this movie he made sure he was in control and that certainly paid off. Handsomely.
There was one other noteworthy conflict between Fincher and the studio/producers on another later project regarding a single line of dialog. In the scene after a couple have slept together the female character said "I want to have your abortion". That crossed the line, Fincher could do whatever he wanted but the producers were adamant that that line had to go. So Fincher made an agreement with them. He would remove the line but he would write a replacement and whatever he came up with, the studio HAD to accept it. They agreed and so it went. If you want to know what replaced it you just have to watch 'Fight Club', in my opinion one of the best movies of the nineties.
I just hit pause when the voice is recognized frpm Pay It Forward ... Kevin Spacey isnt being realized as Verbal? Have we not watched The Usual Suspects on this channel yet!?
Luckily, there's something for everyone.
Gluttony is not the cause of staving men, greed is
This was the movie that after watching in the theatre had everyone debating. 1/2 saying I would've killed him.. .1/2 say you let him win. What was interesting is no one was saying you can't kill people. Everyone was OK with that... they just didn't want him to win.
#1 for me is First Blood. Great performance from Stallone. I also really like The Wrath of Kahn, Annie, My Favorite Year, and Hanky Panky.
Highly recommend getting the special edition Blu-ray I'm not sure if the forecast out yet but doesn't matter there's like 4 commentaries on the disc the making of features are spectacular definitely should be owned as a physical copy I recently watched it with my son he watched it for the first time and it blew his mind.. I'll never forget seeing it in the theater and then I watch the film often music the lighting the whole damn reduction is one of David fincher's greatest films!! As well as Zodiac another one I highly recommend opening the physical copy.
Most people agree that David shouldn’t have deleted John but I would have pulled the trigger for sure. “If you do this, he will win” WIN? He already won. He took the life of his child and wife. People’s lives aren’t a game. What is he winning? Who am I trying to be a better person for? John Doe? David did exactly what I would have done. Like you said….he had to go!!
He had to go, but he went too easy!
@@MaynardsSpaceshipI think that's the difference between when you consider &/or believe what happens to peoples souls after their body ceases to exist x
And that’s how this movie is supposed to hit 😂😂this fuckin movie every time never fails to stun and traumatize it’s viewers 👏🏾
I got to tell you I applaud you for noticing the photographer on the stairs because I guarantee in 90% of the people who watch this movie didn't pay much attention. I know I didn't. Very astute of you my good sir
If you like David Finchers kind of movie making, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND the movie "The Game" to you (another Fincher masterpiece)
I love the journey that movie takes you on; like a wonderful novel 🥰☺️✨
I have always maintained that I agree with the detective in the beginning when asked if the kid saw it. What resolution could possibly come from knowing if the kid saw his mother kill her husband? Especially if the kid is now dead because he was killed by the mother. What’re you send a dead kid to therapy, or just simply walk around harboring the knowledge that he most likely did witness his mother kill his father with no way to resolve it? Come on now people. I happen to believe Somerset asked for his own peace of mind, and not because he’s knows he’ll be able to do anything about it. He knows he’s been working in that hellish environment for so long that at that point he’s grasping at straws just to find any kind of peace of mind.
16:40 that's the thing, people complain about cops being trigger happy, but they never consider the horrors those cops witness on a daily basis, horrors committed by, you know, people.
Cops alone aren't to blame for the rise in "police brutality", civilians share just as much blame, if not more.
Excellent reaction, my favorite of yours so far!
The tower crossmembers have
“7” all throughout the structures
Look close
Disturbing ....wait till some one pays him to reviews "8mm" *shivers
If you would like to carry on carrying on in this noir genre then may I make the recommendation of INSOMNIA with Al Pacino (another detective noir) or The Sisters Brothers which is western noir a la Coen Brothers.
One of my favorite reactions from you! So fun! Please more Fincher films.
Great reaction......you must watch The girl with the dragon tattoo remake with Daniel Craig.....it's on the same tones and directed by the same person
He obviously gets a bad Rep, but Kevin Spacey is a star in 2 movies with the best endings of all time.
This and Usual Suspects.
I love your reactions. Have you ever considered watching Saw movie series? I think you will enjoy the twists of the story. 😊
Such a good movie. I've watched it so many times. Kinda worries me about me, but I don't care.
John Doe is a judgement of society.
Are we guilty as a society for accepting these sins as ok or committing them ourselves? If we are guilty, what punishment do we deserve?
If we absolve Mills for his wrathful sin in the end, do we really care about right and wrong? Where do we, individually and as a society, draw the line?
David fincher loves a good twist but im not supposed to talk about that
He really should do it next
@@howardroark3208 I really hope so he's up to movie 6 in the Harry Potter series and im willing to bet he refers to Marla as belatrix
no Marla’s not the kind you mix up from intro to end that’s Marla
@@howardroark3208 belatrix seems like the kind of woman that hasn't been fd like that since grade school, the room of requirement has many uses
@@Raven5150 yeah and that’s the softer replacement because the studio balked at the original line
When do we get a Hot Fuzz reaction?
I really liked your reaction to this masterpiece.
"Serial Deleter" 😭😭☺️
This movie is Phenomenal!
If you want an unbelievably disturbing movie, watch Sleepers ... The first half is terrible but the second half is perfection.
Speaking of Kevin Spacey & wonderful endings...seen the Usual Suspects yet?
38:49 hilarious!
one of the best thrillers- ever made!