Here are the links if anyone is interested: Stowaway Pot MSR Seagull: amzn.to/3r1AzPd Tatonka Kettle: amzn.to/30Y1NLO MSR Fry Pan: amzn.to/3tyEogf Cheap Canteen Set: amzn.to/2NtCw9c Titanium Canteen Set: amzn.to/30ZARv6 New Titanium Version: amzn.to/3lvJ2sU EDC Stainless Waterbottle: amzn.to/2OLoh0c
If you don't like using bad chemicals to treat water, research iodine. Naturally anti-septic and it's a mineral you need trace amounts of anyway. I have a big jug at home because the soil in my area is deficient in iodine and goiters (due to iodine deficiency) were a big problem until 1940 or so.
@@stanervin6108 if Lilly was a little more German she would have given us the chemical formula make up of every bottle and the exact weight of each one. 😉
Lilly, an easy way to clean and sanitize your canteens is to use denture cleansing tablets, available at any pharmacy (apotheker) for very low price. Narrow mouth canteens will require crushing them before opening the packaging. Use several for a one liter canteen with a fill up of warm water all the way to the top. Put the lid on loosely so that when they fizz (effervesce) they also clean the top and threads. They are safe and not only clean, but also sanitize. After a quick rinse, your canteen is as good as new, with no odd smells or taste. Thanks for all your great videos.
I got Stanley cook sets, MSR pot and their water bladders, GSI cup etc first time around. Almost 10 years of prepping. I always buy the best first time and never upgrade anything. Retired carpenter, always buy the best 1st. Just found a 47oz stainless steel Stanley vacuum food jar on special on Amazon arriving in a few minutes. I want it for emergencies keep food warm after cooking so I don't have to make too many cooks
Most plastics today are BPA free. They're fine. I love my 3L hydrapack for hiking and hunting. Everything will release particles. For heating things, I do like stainless over anything else for quality and longevity.
@@kerbalairforce8802 True. And in Chris Ryan's book about the doomed Bravo Two Zero (SAS) mission, he writes of how he drinks the effluent from some kind of industrial complex because, by that point, he's been without water for a number of days of very high stress and activity. I understand Lily's point here though; if you have a choice, avoid plastic and aluminium and chemicals. I do exactly the same and will only drink from stainless steel if possible. But of course if I were unlucky enough to find myself in a sufficiently desperate situation I'd drink whatever I had to to survive.
to avoid scratches on your pots & pans, use a plastic pot scraper. They are super cheap and very durable. After scraping the pot, sprinkle baking soda inside and wipe with a sponge or soft cloth. Baking soda will also remove the soot from the bottoms of your cookware.
For water bladders what I like to do is fill it up with coca cola (maybe the non sugar ones ), leave it for a day or so then toss it out. then the water doesn't taste like plastic anymore
I rinse out my water bladders before I use them with some baking soda and vinegar... let it do it's fizzy thing, roll it around the sides of the bladder then rinse with cold water 4-6 times... it keeps the water tasting clean and sweet. Try to store them open when not using them!
That's a similar mechanism to what I've done for some bottles, which is put in paper towels or other basically abrasive items and shake with hot soapy water.
Aluminium is not toxic. It is a reactive metal, more so than iron/steel. Aluminium reacts with oxygen to form a layer of aluminium oxide on the surface (aluminium oxide is the black residue you see if you scrub an aluminium pan but a new oxide layer forms almost instantly) so aluminium will not get into the food/water. It's safe to use for cooking and storing water etc.
Alluminium is not toxic or dangerous. I am a healthy 67 year old walking 10,000 steps per day. My mother only had alluminium in the kitchen for first 20 years of my life.
Micro plastics are a big concern. I've had two Camel backs and both began to taste really bad after a few uses. Now I use a 3 litre Returnable Coca Cola bottle. It's not ideal but it doesn't make my water taste weird.
If you cook with it you get a much higher dose than just using it to carry water, it also puts off fumes when heated. Still it is a relatively low dose, but many people prefer to avoid it. Better to be paranoid than suffer problems.
I've been trying to stick to titanium products, more expensive but worth it, I buy a piece of Ti kit whenever I can fit it into the budget. Aluminum isn't bad if it's not used with excessive heat, but that said my pots will be replaced by Ti soon. Thanks for the video Lilly, enjoy your videos
You gathered a nice collection of heritage cooking gear. Fully agree with you on drinking from plastic and Aluminium containers on a regular basis, but in an emergency it's ok . Water bladders are always worth carrying, you can use it as hot-water bags to get you through the night - can't do it with sturdy containers, because they will collapse when the water cools down. Water purification drops or pills are very useful too, but only in an emergency, in case you can't boil it due to a thunderstorm or in a bone-dry forest. The easiest way to clean small-mouth Water bottles is to fill in a good amount of clean, not too fine sand, light gravel or natural rice (2-3 tablespoons) with 200-300ml cold water, close it up and shake violently in all different directions for several minutes- unscrew the cap in an upside-down position to flush everything out. Repeat, if needed. If it's really bad, fill it with boiling water and some soda and let it sit over night or use false teeth cleaning tablets. Thanks for showing
Thanks for the info. I'm currently on a bug hunt for a good, substantial pot that will hold a minimum of 64 ounces (2 liters) to re-create the Mors Kochanski Survival Pot. I still keep plastic water bottles in my vehicle as back up. If it gets real cold and freezes the plastic can accommodate ice expansion. Other than that I stick to stainless steel metal containers just because you can boil in them and they are bullet proof. I'm leaning towards the large Tatonka.
Thank you for the more health-conscious reasoning, it's been a growing concern of mine as well. Maybe not to the extreme of replacing the piping in the whole house, but that's because I figure I can filter my drinking/cooking water separate from my washing water. Coming from Michigan, what happened with flint was, lead leeched into the old metal pipes and forever ruined them. Or at least thats my understanding of it. I think plastic PVC would not have that sort of chemical reaction.
Save some of those white foam/plastic bottle cap liners found in some bottled water or other bottles. If needed trace the shape and cut it to fit. Use that to replace the missing rubber seal in the military style stainless steal canteen. And save another to add to the existing rubber seal in your other stainless military style canteen. Works great. Cleaning these canteens is easy too. First dont store water in the canteen when not using it. Let it air dry with cap off when not in use. To clean the inside of these canteens heat up water mixed with white vinegar and add perhaps add dish soap. Shake the mix around and in a while later empty and rinse the canteen.
Great video Lilly! For cleaning your cups etc try using Steradent (denture cleaning) tablets, just make sure they don't contain persulfate. I use them to clean all my tea and coffee cups, bottles etc. Rinse well before use. No need to scrub, works like magic.
Great! First my favorite anti-perspirant was ruined because of going aluminum free, and now my outdoor products are being affected by it as well, thanks to people spreading this information that it is bad for you! The amount of aluminum exposure from these products is harmless, and it's sad that misinformation is steering people away from the lighter weight options that are probably better for most people.
Out of all tv shows on woodsmen, survival, the most successful angler is without doubt Survival Lilly, and her sheer joy at the catch is so genuine and lovely to watch.
Hi Lilly about the canten that is to hard to clean because the small mouth. I will use clean sand and a couple piece of small gravel with water and soap. Then shake the bottle a couple minutes and rinse.
These videos are great. It’s good to see people change and try different things to try to improve. I have the US canteen. I have acquired the cup, lid and stove to fit it. I did SAR and durability was very important. This system worked well.
You are perfectly at liberty to choose not to use cookware/storage vessels made from any particular material. That is entirely your choice. But to state, baldly, that aluminium cookware is toxic is nonsense. The evidence for aluminium cookware posing any hazard is VERY scant indeed. There is some evidence that cookware made in third world countries from recycled aluminium may contain undesirable metallic elements (heavy metals, such as lead and cadmium) that can leach into cooking. Far more aluminium enters our bodies from sources other than cooking vessels. Aluminium is the most abundant metallic elemement in the earth's crust/surface.
There is good evidence that the non-stick coatings used on cooking pans/pots IS deleterious to your health. Tons of cheap garbage aluminum camp sets contains these coatings of dubious chemical make-up and questionable resistance to flaking and scraping and are manufactured for literal pennies in China and the third world. I'm sure they're perfectly safe for occasional use, but heavy use would be another question.
Aluminium will react to acid, which was why the chemical lining for canned soda is a highly kept secret. Also why they usually layer something on top of aluminium, be it non stick or stainless. It's probably fine for cooking water, but anything more complex is tricky.
I’ve lost count of how many time I watched this video ahah I love the tatonka billy pots, which I discovered from this vid. I don’t understand the reasoning behind buying an MSR stowaway since the tatonka billy is just far superior. Only thing I could imagine is storing leftover food form a meal inside the stowaway.
I've been staying away from plastic at home too. My leftovers go into glass containers for reheating. No more non stick pots and pans either. Its either cast iron, stainless steel or ceramic...and I'm not totally sure about ceramic yet. So far so good.
We stopped using coated pans and my stainless never scratches. Almost as shiny as the day I got them. Grew up on food cooked in aluminum pans, so I may already be screwed. Lol
You have a nice assortment. I wanted a pot that had a lid that doubled as a frying pan made of stainless steel that would be large enough to store my MSR Dragonfly stove. I went with the Olicamp 3 liter pot. I used to use an old Peak1 1 liter stainless Alaskan style pot that actually had a copper covered bottom. It was too small for the dragonfly. I like that canteen cup cover. I remember when Dave Canterbury was first selling those covers.
The water bladders make quite a good back woods shower. Shorten the hose and fit a small watering can rose. Fill bladder with water and cover with a black refuse sack. Hang in full sun (not something we see that often in U.K.). After a couple of hours the water will be warm enough for a quick shower.
Great educational video on titanium and stainless steel camping gear,I as well hate water that has a plastic taste to it. I drink bottled water as well,but miss glass jars and bottles. Take care Survival Lilly.
You have made the right analysis of plastic hydration systems. But the plastic bladder itself is not the main problem. The main problem is that the hose and mouth-piece will quickly collect germs and bacteria. Sanitizing in the field requires de-assembling and manual chemical cleaning or boiling, a time consuming procedure that most hikers will not bother with. A few days in the field is enough time for this bacteria to become a health hazard, and you will arrive home with a stomach problem. To ensure healthy hydration, only use bottles that are easy to clean and rinse out in the field, your Nalgene wide mouth stainless bottle is a good example. Remember when you compare the weight between containers that you should do it with the container filled with water. Then the difference between plastic, stainless and titanium becomes almost irrelevant. /Greetings from the Swedish Army.
Hi Lilly, I agree that all outdoor enthusiasts should buy the best food grade stainless steel cook ware and bottles, that they can afford!!! That being said, lets remember that sodium hypochlorite (regular 5% bleach), hydrogen peroxide (its the whitener in your toothpaste), are used in hospitals for disinfection along with iodide and natural products like citric acid (lemon juice) and vinegar (your choice) will also kill most bacteria and even many if not most viruses in water. Always research concentrations and methods of everything you use for cleaning items for your drinking water for best results since too much is not a good thing either. Use them routinely, followed by complete fresh chlorinated water rinsing. Leaching from plastics is more common, however, the brand name "Nalgene" is an inert siliconized plastic that will not leach into potable drinking water. Storing emergency potable water in any plastic that is not Nalgene or food-grade is not a great idea for long term storage.
Yes Lilly we all have over a dozen different things of everything collected over the years i don't throw anything away mostly give them away but the things i keep are tried and tested its good to go through all your stuff once in a while i sort mine into different groups in different survival bags no i know what ever bag i take with me i can depend on it i never used bladder bags like you said they taste funny all my equipment is SS and a cleaning brush weighs ounces and i can carve a wooden spatula. spoon or fork quite easily its great you do this as it reminds me to look through my gear as i haven't in over a year...
I clean bottles and jugs with small openings by putting soap, water, and raw white rice or salt in the container , cap it and shake vigorously for a while. Just make sure to take extra care to get all the soap rinsed out.
You make some great points here, some I'd not considered but that now seem obvious as they're so important to the ongoing usage of an item, such as the folded over lip of the canteen mouth.
Awesome video as always Lilly. Have you thought of getting one of the Stanley cook sets? I have one, haven’t used it yet, but I soon will. Waypoint Survival did so many hacks with his that that Stanley cook pot is all you would need for cooking. Stay safe and be well. Thanks for sharing.
I bought a full nested Tatonka set and have been disappointed with it. It was heavy, bulky and the pan I threw out because it was raised slightly in the middle which concentrated the heat and made it hard to use. We are replacing the stainless steel with titanium. The wind shield is good but bulky and the alcohol burner we have replaced with a gas burner. The research suggests that titanium also concentrates the heat (so much for my Tatonka complaint), so I bought a heat diffuser and hopefully that will do the job on a fire, coals or burner. I thought at first there was an issue with the Tatonka pan and they replaced it which was nice but the replacement was the same. Each type of cookware seems to have its issues but research shows that the titanium is easy to clean.
A lily I enjoy your videos. I'm from Foley Alabama in the US you just gave me a good idea. I am 57 years old handicap disabled and I'm going to give it a shot camping for the weekend I know I sound crazy but I'm like a dear I don't give up too bad your water bottle didn't have an extra pouch to put your water purification stuff in it put that away all your water stuff is together I have some camping gear but it's not that large of pots and pans it's just enough for one person I enjoy watching your programs and two other people but I never see nobody bring no fishing gear ultralight fishing pole and some spring-loaded yo-yos the catch fish you always got to be by some water my backpacks about 95 lb a little rough but I have everything sometimes I only carry me about four five packs of MREs and powdered flavored drinks all I do is pour the powder inside with my freshwater and some Gatorade hope this goes through correctly I'm on voice text love your show sweetie keep up the good work
I wanted to give you the information that stainless steel can also be harmful if it is not of high quality. if it is made with stainless steel with a 14/ it is unfit for eating. it would have to be 18/8 or 18/10, 18/0 would be best, but the 18/0 is not dishwasher safe.
Pathfinder has a 2nd Generation Canteen set that is really nice. It comes with the cup, cup lid, stick stove, and has a wider mouth, also. It's definitely a big step up in quality from the one Stanport sells. They also have it in Titanium if you don't mind the extra cost. The current US Military Canteen pouches are a little roomier and also of superior quality, and they're only $5 at a surplus store.
A study by some scientists say on average we consume about 5 grams of plastic per week, about the size of a credit card, and that by 2050 there will be more plastic by weight than fish in the sea. Reliable research now shows that tiny bits of plastic are in our food, drinking water, the air we breathe, and, yes, inside our bodies. ... One research review published in 2019 calculated that the average American eats, drinks, and breathes in more than 74,000 microplastic particles every year.Apr 30, 2020
Nice collection, most of my canteens are military but using nalgene. I don’t like water bladders, I am going to get the G I style titanium canteen to fit in the military pouch. Those are great pouches. Alan R.
Great cooking gear sets. @Cleaning metallic bottles: Avoid the need for cleaning: fill only water and no other fluids in the bottle/container. When using the water first fill water into cup/pot (than mix coffee/tea or other ingridiants). After the hike/trip returned to home/hotel bottles might be cleaned in a dishwasher. Thats why I prefer metal bottle/thermo can over plastic bottles. (I learned by expirience bottle-clean-avoiding-strategy on my childrens kinder garden/school SIG bottles filled with apple/orange juice had sticky caps after dish washer cleaning procedures).
Nice video and as you said stay away from plastic bottles. I used them too for sports and every time you put anything else then pure water in it the taste gets worse. So i switched to bottles with a titanium coating and its a difference like night and day
Aluminum is not as toxic as people think. If it was we wouldn't use Aluminum Foil while cooking. My cook pot is aluminum and I've used it for years. I also drink from smart water bottles, (mostly because the Sawyer squeeze filter fits them perfectly). But when I camp, I'm hiking and my base weight it 25 lbs/11kg.
Best! Thank you for sharing! I'm interested in knowing more about the APO - 1 Cooking Stove that runs on an alcohol burner. Have you done a specific video review? if you did I missed it.
Hi Lilly, I was just thinking about revamping and replacing some of my old camping cookware gear this past weekend. Thanks for sharing your ideas! Definitely going to look into a lot of what you use 😎🤙
Interesting to see your your choices and his w yltise have developed and changed over time. Personally, I don't like the smell that stainless steel makes especially when drinking water,. I now use Titanium double wall mugs from Snow peak. The risks of aluminium damaging ones health are greatly exaggerated having looked into this myself. I have gradually changed my gear so it's all anodised aluminium, this seems in my opinion the best solution when weight, durability, price,cook ability (great heat dissipation) and can also be made non stick by seasoning much like cast iron and it's safe. I use a Grayl water filter which is plastic but leaves the water tasting pure. For water carrying I have Titanium water bottles plus a Nalgene stainless for campfire use. The Tatonka pot with pan lid looks like a great piece of kit.
Thank you for showing what you use. Have you heard of Überleben? I bought the Überleben stoker stove Stainless steel. It is a good one! Good for cooking and I use it all the time. And I bought a G.I. Canteen and cup and I washed it and it smells also but I noticed some particles in the water. I am afraid to use them so I bought a stainless steel Canteen and cup from Target EVO and another stainless steel canteen set from Goetland. I love those better. I’ll be getting your knife soon APO 1S !!
Good point but I wouldn’t over worry on aluminium it’s about as toxic as copper, normally your body will just flush it out, its only in very extreme cases (underlying health conditions) or prolonged exposure over decades will it cause any real issues.
I have some bottles with small spouts I hate it for cleaning too! But with that, a good baby bottle brush can work good on them (sometimes; depending on the size) anyways, I love this video! Great camping info! I subscribed a looooong time ago and just came back to check out your channel :) thanks Lilly!
You forgot a titanium toothpick. For the discerning survivalist. Pathfinder Outfitters has a pretty nice line of thoughtfully designed stainless or titanium cook sets. Lots of nesting options and carry sacks to go with them. The titanium stuff is not cheap, though. Over $300 for a decent setup. I guess, wait for a big sale.
Thanks 4 sharing this knowledge 👊 im a sittydwellers ofspring but,.... I went another way 😁 almost ready to hit the dirt and get away from the coronacopalypse ☮️
Lily we're new to your channel. My 4 yr old daughter loves watching your videos and in this video we both liked the folding spoon and fork a d wanted to know what name brand they were so we could try to find them too. I didn't see the brand for them listed in your video notes. Did I miss it, or can you please comment on the brand? Thanks!
Cleaning inside a water container is a bit of bleach, then rinse as for any small or large tank. I've used that for camping trailer tanks to Reliance water containers for first use and my old 1994 2qt soft skin military water canteen.
At cooking school, we learned that we should never use metal cooking tools in aluminium pots. Only wood or plastic. Its 20 years ago, so my memory is not exactly crisp, but im pretty sure it accumulates in the body, and create alzheimers or parkinsons like symptoms after ingesting around 20mg or something. Acids in food can also dissolve the aluminum, and i found several small holes in my Trangia pot after i forgot to clean it after a trip, and had it laying in a plastic bag for maybe a few months...
A very good way to get rid of bad taste in any container, including plastic water containers and drinking tubes, is wash or flush them out with brown vinegar. Brown vinegar nutrilises all chemicals.
What type of container would you recommend for storing several gallons of water? Most large containers for sports or camping sold in the US are BPA plastic.
Aluminum is one of the best materials for camp cooking because of even heating. Titanium is the worst because it will spot burn. SS and cast iron in your kitchen is best for day to day cooking.
I got some Al you miniyum containers and cook sets that I I love. You just threw a monkey wrench into that relationship. Thanks for nothing Lilly!!! And what I really mean is...all good in the hood. Thanks for the concern and now I’ll do my homework and make informed decisions. Peace!
Stanley stainless steel cook sets are good quality steel. most stainless steel cook sets are thin resulting to food being burned at the bottom. Stanley’s steel are a little thicker so food doesn’t easily burn…
I was against using aluminum as well in the past but now I'm not so certain. In fact I'm trending to go back to it. I have stainless, Titanium, and aluminum cookwares so I can use any I choose. The amount t of aluminum intake is not worrisome to me be the heavy toxic metals in the Chinese stainless products don't leave me overly positive.
Hopefully it doesn't come to having to use those two plastic water canteens for gasoline/ petrol because gasoline might eat through the plastic if you don't use it up quick enough. Seems like a thick enough plastic that the canteen might be able to hold out and be fine but that's my two cents. Those two water pouches might be good to use to slowly dripping water while grinding metal/ stone to prevent over heating / wearing down the grinding blade quicker.
To people saying "you use what you have in a survival situation": she is making sure that what she has is stainless steel. What you expect her to do, toss it out mid survival trip for an aluminum tin she didn't previously have? Geez you guys
Here are the links if anyone is interested:
Stowaway Pot MSR Seagull: amzn.to/3r1AzPd
Tatonka Kettle: amzn.to/30Y1NLO
MSR Fry Pan: amzn.to/3tyEogf
Cheap Canteen Set: amzn.to/2NtCw9c
Titanium Canteen Set: amzn.to/30ZARv6
New Titanium Version: amzn.to/3lvJ2sU
EDC Stainless Waterbottle: amzn.to/2OLoh0c
Awesome video....i love the topic ive been trying to find a backpacking do all cookset. i will watch your video as soon as i go on my lunch break! 👍
If you don't like using bad chemicals to treat water, research iodine. Naturally anti-septic and it's a mineral you need trace amounts of anyway. I have a big jug at home because the soil in my area is deficient in iodine and goiters (due to iodine deficiency) were a big problem until 1940 or so.
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Gasoline may turn that plastic into gel. Put some gasoline in it and leave it outside a few weeks. If the inside gets sticky, it's a no-go!
@@stanervin6108 Theres 2 ways to find out.... 😆
@@stanervin6108 if Lilly was a little more German she would have given us the chemical formula make up of every bottle and the exact weight of each one. 😉
Lilly, an easy way to clean and sanitize your canteens is to use denture cleansing tablets, available at any pharmacy (apotheker) for very low price. Narrow mouth canteens will require crushing them before opening the packaging. Use several for a one liter canteen with a fill up of warm water all the way to the top. Put the lid on loosely so that when they fizz (effervesce) they also clean the top and threads. They are safe and not only clean, but also sanitize. After a quick rinse, your canteen is as good as new, with no odd smells or taste.
Thanks for all your great videos.
Thankyou
That is genius!
I got Stanley cook sets, MSR pot and their water bladders, GSI cup etc first time around. Almost 10 years of prepping. I always buy the best first time and never upgrade anything. Retired carpenter, always buy the best 1st. Just found a 47oz stainless steel Stanley vacuum food jar on special on Amazon arriving in a few minutes. I want it for emergencies keep food warm after cooking so I don't have to make too many cooks
But when survival situations remember dehydration will kill you a lot quicker than aluminum or plastic toxicities.
if I have the choice I avoid aluminium or plastic
Most plastics today are BPA free. They're fine. I love my 3L hydrapack for hiking and hunting. Everything will release particles. For heating things, I do like stainless over anything else for quality and longevity.
I think the lesson here is get this stuff while you have the chance so that way you will have the choice.
@@thomasmusso1147 when thirsty, a person will stoop to drinking sea water, even if they know it'll kill them.
@@kerbalairforce8802 True. And in Chris Ryan's book about the doomed Bravo Two Zero (SAS) mission, he writes of how he drinks the effluent from some kind of industrial complex because, by that point, he's been without water for a number of days of very high stress and activity.
I understand Lily's point here though; if you have a choice, avoid plastic and aluminium and chemicals. I do exactly the same and will only drink from stainless steel if possible. But of course if I were unlucky enough to find myself in a sufficiently desperate situation I'd drink whatever I had to to survive.
to avoid scratches on your pots & pans, use a plastic pot scraper. They are super cheap and very durable. After scraping the pot, sprinkle baking soda inside and wipe with a sponge or soft cloth. Baking soda will also remove the soot from the bottoms of your cookware.
Combine with vineagar,it fizzles up but helps clean and kill bacteria
You could use the water bladders to carry fuel, for a FLAMETHROWER!!!
I know its a joke but foe your information gasoline or fuel eat soft plastic it would go right trough like acid
Mike Hetfield, yeah, that could end really badly.
For water bladders what I like to do is fill it up with coca cola (maybe the non sugar ones ), leave it for a day or so then toss it out. then the water doesn't taste like plastic anymore
Interesting trick, I'll have to try that
I rinse out my water bladders before I use them with some baking soda and vinegar... let it do it's fizzy thing, roll it around the sides of the bladder then rinse with cold water 4-6 times... it keeps the water tasting clean and sweet. Try to store them open when not using them!
Alcohol and sea salt works really well for cleaning bottles with small openings. I picked that up from stoners that clean their bongs.
clean bong or no bong
Dude, that was a secret just for us, I mean them, uh, you know, stoners. haha.
That's a similar mechanism to what I've done for some bottles, which is put in paper towels or other basically abrasive items and shake with hot soapy water.
Also egg shells are a secret tip from grandma to clean bottles or flower vases.
Aluminium is not toxic. It is a reactive metal, more so than iron/steel. Aluminium reacts with oxygen to form a layer of aluminium oxide on the surface (aluminium oxide is the black residue you see if you scrub an aluminium pan but a new oxide layer forms almost instantly) so aluminium will not get into the food/water. It's safe to use for cooking and storing water etc.
I agree. My parents only had alluminium in the kitchen until I was about 20 years old. I am 67 now and nothing has stopped.
Alluminium is not toxic or dangerous. I am a healthy 67 year old walking 10,000 steps per day. My mother only had alluminium in the kitchen for first 20 years of my life.
Micro plastics are a big concern. I've had two Camel backs and both began to taste really bad after a few uses. Now I use a 3 litre Returnable Coca Cola bottle. It's not ideal but it doesn't make my water taste weird.
Great idea. 👍
Hi Lilly: I agree with getting rid of plastic! But Aluminum is not toxic at low doses.
Low doses repeatedly over long term causes irreversible brain damage.
If you cook with it you get a much higher dose than just using it to carry water, it also puts off fumes when heated. Still it is a relatively low dose, but many people prefer to avoid it. Better to be paranoid than suffer problems.
@@AwesomeFish12 I agree with minimizing exposure as much as possible. Just trying not to alarm people.
A little tip - the military canteen with the butterfly handles actually lock together (you will hear them click). It makes the cup very sturdy.
I've been trying to stick to titanium products, more expensive but worth it, I buy a piece of Ti kit whenever I can fit it into the budget. Aluminum isn't bad if it's not used with excessive heat, but that said my pots will be replaced by Ti soon. Thanks for the video Lilly, enjoy your videos
You gathered a nice collection of heritage cooking gear.
Fully agree with you on drinking from plastic and Aluminium containers on a regular basis, but in an emergency it's ok .
Water bladders are always worth carrying, you can use it as hot-water bags to get you through the night - can't do it with sturdy containers, because they will collapse when the water cools down.
Water purification drops or pills are very useful too, but only in an emergency, in case you can't boil it due to a thunderstorm or in a bone-dry forest.
The easiest way to clean small-mouth Water bottles is to fill in a good amount of clean, not too fine sand, light gravel or natural rice (2-3 tablespoons) with 200-300ml cold water, close it up and shake violently in all different directions for several minutes- unscrew the cap in an upside-down position to flush everything out. Repeat, if needed.
If it's really bad, fill it with boiling water and some soda and let it sit over night or use false teeth cleaning tablets.
Thanks for showing
Thanks for the info. I'm currently on a bug hunt for a good, substantial pot that will hold a minimum of 64 ounces (2 liters) to re-create the Mors Kochanski Survival Pot. I still keep plastic water bottles in my vehicle as back up. If it gets real cold and freezes the plastic can accommodate ice expansion. Other than that I stick to stainless steel metal containers just because you can boil in them and they are bullet proof. I'm leaning towards the large Tatonka.
I just bought Mors Kochanski's book, Bushcraft!
Thank you for the more health-conscious reasoning, it's been a growing concern of mine as well. Maybe not to the extreme of replacing the piping in the whole house, but that's because I figure I can filter my drinking/cooking water separate from my washing water. Coming from Michigan, what happened with flint was, lead leeched into the old metal pipes and forever ruined them. Or at least thats my understanding of it. I think plastic PVC would not have that sort of chemical reaction.
Save some of those white foam/plastic bottle cap liners found in some bottled water or other bottles. If needed trace the shape and cut it to fit. Use that to replace the missing rubber seal in the military style stainless steal canteen. And save another to add to the existing rubber seal in your other stainless military style canteen. Works great. Cleaning these canteens is easy too. First dont store water in the canteen when not using it. Let it air dry with cap off when not in use. To clean the inside of these canteens heat up water mixed with white vinegar and add perhaps add dish soap. Shake the mix around and in a while later empty and rinse the canteen.
Great video Lilly! For cleaning your cups etc try using Steradent (denture cleaning) tablets, just make sure they don't contain persulfate. I use them to clean all my tea and coffee cups, bottles etc. Rinse well before use. No need to scrub, works like magic.
Great! First my favorite anti-perspirant was ruined because of going aluminum free, and now my outdoor products are being affected by it as well, thanks to people spreading this information that it is bad for you! The amount of aluminum exposure from these products is harmless, and it's sad that misinformation is steering people away from the lighter weight options that are probably better for most people.
Out of all tv shows on woodsmen, survival, the most successful angler is without doubt Survival Lilly, and her sheer joy at the catch is so genuine and lovely to watch.
Hi Lilly about the canten that is to hard to clean because the small mouth. I will use clean sand and a couple piece of small gravel with water and soap. Then shake the bottle a couple minutes and rinse.
That's how I always cleaned my pots in the desert.
Thanks for the advice and your very useful video. Hello good day 👍
These videos are great. It’s good to see people change and try different things to try to improve.
I have the US canteen. I have acquired the cup, lid and stove to fit it. I did SAR and durability was very important. This system worked well.
You are perfectly at liberty to choose not to use cookware/storage vessels made from any particular material. That is entirely your choice. But to state, baldly, that aluminium cookware is toxic is nonsense. The evidence for aluminium cookware posing any hazard is VERY scant indeed. There is some evidence that cookware made in third world countries from recycled aluminium may contain undesirable metallic elements (heavy metals, such as lead and cadmium) that can leach into cooking. Far more aluminium enters our bodies from sources other than cooking vessels. Aluminium is the most abundant metallic elemement in the earth's crust/surface.
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There is good evidence that the non-stick coatings used on cooking pans/pots IS deleterious to your health. Tons of cheap garbage aluminum camp sets contains these coatings of dubious chemical make-up and questionable resistance to flaking and scraping and are manufactured for literal pennies in China and the third world. I'm sure they're perfectly safe for occasional use, but heavy use would be another question.
Aluminium will react to acid, which was why the chemical lining for canned soda is a highly kept secret. Also why they usually layer something on top of aluminium, be it non stick or stainless. It's probably fine for cooking water, but anything more complex is tricky.
I’ve lost count of how many time I watched this video ahah
I love the tatonka billy pots, which I discovered from this vid. I don’t understand the reasoning behind buying an MSR stowaway since the tatonka billy is just far superior. Only thing I could imagine is storing leftover food form a meal inside the stowaway.
I've been staying away from plastic at home too. My leftovers go into glass containers for reheating. No more non stick pots and pans either. Its either cast iron, stainless steel or ceramic...and I'm not totally sure about ceramic yet. So far so good.
I threw out all of the toxic non stick pans also.
We stopped using coated pans and my stainless never scratches. Almost as shiny as the day I got them. Grew up on food cooked in aluminum pans, so I may already be screwed. Lol
Virtually everything that you post, always seems to be very interesting. Thank you very much
You have a nice assortment. I wanted a pot that had a lid that doubled as a frying pan made of stainless steel that would be large enough to store my MSR Dragonfly stove. I went with the Olicamp 3 liter pot. I used to use an old Peak1 1 liter stainless Alaskan style pot that actually had a copper covered bottom. It was too small for the dragonfly. I like that canteen cup cover. I remember when Dave Canterbury was first selling those covers.
Great supply, absolute best prep. You must have everything & AMY completes it all! Always ck your videos.🐾
The water bladders make quite a good back woods shower. Shorten the hose and fit a small watering can rose.
Fill bladder with water and cover with a black refuse sack. Hang in full sun (not something we see that often in U.K.). After a couple of hours the water will be warm enough for a quick shower.
Love your video keep up the good work
I love Lilly's Tatonkas.
Great educational video on titanium and stainless steel camping gear,I as well hate water that has a plastic taste to it. I drink bottled water as well,but miss glass jars and bottles. Take care Survival Lilly.
I really do love that she reviews such practical things!!!!
You have made the right analysis of plastic hydration systems. But the plastic bladder itself is not the main problem. The main problem is that the hose and mouth-piece will quickly collect germs and bacteria. Sanitizing in the field requires de-assembling and manual chemical cleaning or boiling, a time consuming procedure that most hikers will not bother with. A few days in the field is enough time for this bacteria to become a health hazard, and you will arrive home with a stomach problem. To ensure healthy hydration, only use bottles that are easy to clean and rinse out in the field, your Nalgene wide mouth stainless bottle is a good example. Remember when you compare the weight between containers that you should do it with the container filled with water. Then the difference between plastic, stainless and titanium becomes almost irrelevant. /Greetings from the Swedish Army.
Hi Lilly, I agree that all outdoor enthusiasts should buy the best food grade stainless steel cook ware and bottles, that they can afford!!! That being said, lets remember that sodium hypochlorite (regular 5% bleach), hydrogen peroxide (its the whitener in your toothpaste), are used in hospitals for disinfection along with iodide and natural products like citric acid (lemon juice) and vinegar (your choice) will also kill most bacteria and even many if not most viruses in water. Always research concentrations and methods of everything you use for cleaning items for your drinking water for best results since too much is not a good thing either. Use them routinely, followed by complete fresh chlorinated water rinsing. Leaching from plastics is more common, however, the brand name "Nalgene" is an inert siliconized plastic that will not leach into potable drinking water. Storing emergency potable water in any plastic that is not Nalgene or food-grade is not a great idea for long term storage.
Great Video Lilly =) Thanks for inspiring a more mindful approach to Living!!! 💛
Yes Lilly we all have over a dozen different things of everything collected over the years i don't throw anything away mostly give them away but the things i keep are tried and tested its good to go through all your stuff once in a while i sort mine into different groups in different survival bags no i know what ever bag i take with me i can depend on it i never used bladder bags like you said they taste funny all my equipment is SS and a cleaning brush weighs ounces and i can carve a wooden spatula. spoon or fork quite easily its great you do this as it reminds me to look through my gear as i haven't in over a year...
Thanks for the sensible critique.
I clean bottles and jugs with small openings by putting soap, water, and raw white rice or salt in the container , cap it and shake vigorously for a while. Just make sure to take extra care to get all the soap rinsed out.
You make some great points here, some I'd not considered but that now seem obvious as they're so important to the ongoing usage of an item, such as the folded over lip of the canteen mouth.
Awesome video as always Lilly. Have you thought of getting one of the Stanley cook sets? I have one, haven’t used it yet, but I soon will. Waypoint Survival did so many hacks with his that that Stanley cook pot is all you would need for cooking. Stay safe and be well. Thanks for sharing.
I bought a full nested Tatonka set and have been disappointed with it. It was heavy, bulky and the pan I threw out because it was raised slightly in the middle which concentrated the heat and made it hard to use. We are replacing the stainless steel with titanium. The wind shield is good but bulky and the alcohol burner we have replaced with a gas burner. The research suggests that titanium also concentrates the heat (so much for my Tatonka complaint), so I bought a heat diffuser and hopefully that will do the job on a fire, coals or burner. I thought at first there was an issue with the Tatonka pan and they replaced it which was nice but the replacement was the same. Each type of cookware seems to have its issues but research shows that the titanium is easy to clean.
You’re one of my favorite people! Thank you!
Been drinking and cooking out of stainless at home and in the woods for years.
A lily I enjoy your videos. I'm from Foley Alabama in the US you just gave me a good idea. I am 57 years old handicap disabled and I'm going to give it a shot camping for the weekend I know I sound crazy but I'm like a dear I don't give up too bad your water bottle didn't have an extra pouch to put your water purification stuff in it put that away all your water stuff is together I have some camping gear but it's not that large of pots and pans it's just enough for one person I enjoy watching your programs and two other people but I never see nobody bring no fishing gear ultralight fishing pole and some spring-loaded yo-yos the catch fish you always got to be by some water my backpacks about 95 lb a little rough but I have everything sometimes I only carry me about four five packs of MREs and powdered flavored drinks all I do is pour the powder inside with my freshwater and some Gatorade hope this goes through correctly I'm on voice text love your show sweetie keep up the good work
I'm proud of you my brother! Its impressive you get out to camp. God Bless you.
I wanted to give you the information that stainless steel can also be harmful if it is not of high quality.
if it is made with stainless steel with a 14/ it is unfit for eating.
it would have to be 18/8 or 18/10, 18/0 would be best, but the 18/0 is not dishwasher safe.
Hey. Tip for canteen cleaning: sand + water ane tiny amount of soap, shake till clean. Works like a charm.
Pathfinder has a 2nd Generation Canteen set that is really nice. It comes with the cup, cup lid, stick stove, and has a wider mouth, also. It's definitely a big step up in quality from the one Stanport sells. They also have it in Titanium if you don't mind the extra cost. The current US Military Canteen pouches are a little roomier and also of superior quality, and they're only $5 at a surplus store.
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A study by some scientists say on average we consume about 5 grams of plastic per week, about the size of a credit card, and that by 2050 there will be more plastic by weight than fish in the sea.
Reliable research now shows that tiny bits of plastic are in our food, drinking water, the air we breathe, and, yes, inside our bodies. ... One research review published in 2019 calculated that the average American eats, drinks, and breathes in more than 74,000 microplastic particles every year.Apr 30, 2020
I too am sharing this information.
A bright spot of the pandemic is that plastic production went way down and created a "shortage" of plastic.
Nice collection, most of my canteens are military but using nalgene. I don’t like water bladders, I am going to get the G I style titanium canteen to fit in the military pouch. Those are great pouches. Alan R.
Great cooking gear sets.
@Cleaning metallic bottles: Avoid the need for cleaning: fill only water and no other fluids in the bottle/container. When using the water first fill water into cup/pot (than mix coffee/tea or other ingridiants). After the hike/trip returned to home/hotel bottles might be cleaned in a dishwasher. Thats why I prefer metal bottle/thermo can over plastic bottles. (I learned by expirience bottle-clean-avoiding-strategy on my childrens kinder garden/school SIG bottles filled with apple/orange juice had sticky caps after dish washer cleaning procedures).
The canteen cup with the butterfly handle is the “improved “ version. The folding handle dates back to WW2 or earlier.
Nice video and as you said stay away from plastic bottles. I used them too for sports and every time you put anything else then pure water in it the taste gets worse. So i switched to bottles with a titanium coating and its a difference like night and day
Aluminum is not as toxic as people think. If it was we wouldn't use Aluminum Foil while cooking. My cook pot is aluminum and I've used it for years. I also drink from smart water bottles, (mostly because the Sawyer squeeze filter fits them perfectly). But when I camp, I'm hiking and my base weight it 25 lbs/11kg.
If you are so sure then do a blood test for aluminum. Would be interested in your levels
@@SurvivalLilly normal blood aluminum levels range from zero to 5.41 micrograms per liter
@@SurvivalLilly I hardly ever go to the Dr., but next time I do I'll have them check.
Best! Thank you for sharing! I'm interested in knowing more about the APO - 1 Cooking Stove that runs on an alcohol burner. Have you done a specific video review? if you did I missed it.
Great video and very informative Lilly. Thank you. Keep well and stay safe.
Hi Lilly, I was just thinking about revamping and replacing some of my old camping cookware gear this past weekend. Thanks for sharing your ideas! Definitely going to look into a lot of what you use 😎🤙
This was good info. I agree about the plastic and am going to upgrade some of my water containers.
Interesting to see your your choices and his w yltise have developed and changed over time.
Personally, I don't like the smell that stainless steel makes especially when drinking water,.
I now use Titanium double wall mugs from Snow peak.
The risks of aluminium damaging ones health are greatly exaggerated having looked into this myself.
I have gradually changed my gear so it's all anodised aluminium, this seems in my opinion the best solution when weight, durability, price,cook ability (great heat dissipation) and can also be made non stick by seasoning much like cast iron and it's safe.
I use a Grayl water filter which is plastic but leaves the water tasting pure.
For water carrying I have Titanium water bottles plus a Nalgene stainless for campfire use.
The Tatonka pot with pan lid looks like a great piece of kit.
Thank you for showing what you use. Have you heard of Überleben? I bought the Überleben stoker stove Stainless steel. It is a good one! Good for cooking and I use it all the time. And I bought a G.I. Canteen and cup and I washed it and it smells also but I noticed some particles in the water. I am afraid to use them so I bought a stainless steel Canteen and cup from Target EVO and another stainless steel canteen set from Goetland. I love those better. I’ll be getting your knife soon APO 1S !!
Yes when you cook/boil over an open fire you need a lid on your pots, pans etc. The “smoke taste” is actually very small ashes from the fire.
Beautiful collection .
Good point but I wouldn’t over worry on aluminium it’s about as toxic as copper, normally your body will just flush it out, its only in very extreme cases (underlying health conditions) or prolonged exposure over decades will it cause any real issues.
I have some bottles with small spouts I hate it for cleaning too! But with that, a good baby bottle brush can work good on them (sometimes; depending on the size) anyways, I love this video! Great camping info! I subscribed a looooong time ago and just came back to check out your channel :) thanks Lilly!
You forgot a titanium toothpick. For the discerning survivalist.
Pathfinder Outfitters has a pretty nice line of thoughtfully designed stainless or titanium cook sets. Lots of nesting options and carry sacks to go with them. The titanium stuff is not cheap, though. Over $300 for a decent setup. I guess, wait for a big sale.
Thanks 4 sharing this knowledge 👊 im a sittydwellers ofspring but,.... I went another way 😁 almost ready to hit the dirt and get away from the coronacopalypse ☮️
The information you presented is very helpful in choosing good cookware for bushcraft. Thanks for sharing.
Lily we're new to your channel. My 4 yr old daughter loves watching your videos and in this video we both liked the folding spoon and fork a d wanted to know what name brand they were so we could try to find them too. I didn't see the brand for them listed in your video notes. Did I miss it, or can you please comment on the brand? Thanks!
Cleaning inside a water container is a bit of bleach, then rinse as for any small or large tank. I've used that for camping trailer tanks to Reliance water containers for first use and my old 1994 2qt soft skin military water canteen.
The original butterflie handles lock together making them very stable and not floppy
Great collection Lilly, always enjoy your vids keep up the good work. Your logic seems sound about the aluminum and plastic containers!!
Great 👍 Video !
Thx Lillly
At cooking school, we learned that we should never use metal cooking tools in aluminium pots. Only wood or plastic. Its 20 years ago, so my memory is not exactly crisp, but im pretty sure it accumulates in the body, and create alzheimers or parkinsons like symptoms after ingesting around 20mg or something. Acids in food can also dissolve the aluminum, and i found several small holes in my Trangia pot after i forgot to clean it after a trip, and had it laying in a plastic bag for maybe a few months...
What a fantastic collection 🙂🍻
I have the msr pot too, the only thing I would change is that it doesn’t pour well at all, other than that it’s prefect
Thank you for sharing. Use wooden spoons and utensils so you don’t scratch your pans.
Great info. Thanks
A very good way to get rid of bad taste in any container, including plastic water containers and drinking tubes, is wash or flush them out with brown vinegar. Brown vinegar nutrilises all chemicals.
Thanks for the links.
you eat in MC Donald but you dont drinck in aluminium contenant very funy ...........
@@thomasmusso1147 yes so fun ...
Very nice.
Hi Lily the tatonka kettle is 1.6L or 2.5L. Thank you.
Is there going to be a part 2 on your off grid hut??
Fesche Sammlung und gutes Equipment liebe Lilly!
What type of container would you recommend for storing several gallons of water? Most large containers for sports or camping sold in the US are BPA plastic.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
Lilly Your canteen that you lost your rubber seal for replace it with a cork seal it will seal better and easier to replace NICE VIDEO
Thanks for the tip. I have some old cork from a champaign bottle laying around somewhere which I could use for it. Many thanks 👌
Hi Lilly, what happened to your Pathfinder stainless steel canteen with thr wide mouth? Would you still recommend that product?
Thank you for your time.
Aluminum is one of the best materials for camp cooking because of even heating. Titanium is the worst because it will spot burn. SS and cast iron in your kitchen is best for day to day cooking.
I got some Al you miniyum containers and cook sets that I I love. You just threw a monkey wrench into that relationship. Thanks for nothing Lilly!!!
And what I really mean is...all good in the hood. Thanks for the concern and now I’ll do my homework and make informed decisions. Peace!
Not many scorch marks. Well done. You can remove the heat discolouration by cleaning it with dirt.
Stanley stainless steel cook sets are good quality steel. most stainless steel cook sets are thin resulting to food being burned at the bottom. Stanley’s steel are a little thicker so food doesn’t easily burn…
I was against using aluminum as well in the past but now I'm not so certain. In fact I'm trending to go back to it. I have stainless, Titanium, and aluminum cookwares so I can use any I choose. The amount t of aluminum intake is not worrisome to me be the heavy toxic metals in the Chinese stainless products don't leave me overly positive.
Stainless steel and copper are the way to go!
Hopefully it doesn't come to having to use those two plastic water canteens for gasoline/ petrol because gasoline might eat through the plastic if you don't use it up quick enough. Seems like a thick enough plastic that the canteen might be able to hold out and be fine but that's my two cents. Those two water pouches might be good to use to slowly dripping water while grinding metal/ stone to prevent over heating / wearing down the grinding blade quicker.
Nice outdoor kitchen kit lilly
To people saying "you use what you have in a survival situation": she is making sure that what she has is stainless steel. What you expect her to do, toss it out mid survival trip for an aluminum tin she didn't previously have? Geez you guys
i love your videos ❤