i think the world government did a great cleansing worldwide and got rid of everyone, it was mentioned in the past! then no one knew of nika etc. , truly evil stuff, much like people feel tartaria was replaced in real life by mud floods and that the land was built over the previous one, i feel the world government did something similar, thanks for the video morj!
Dorry and Broggy being there looking for Nika proves why the Gorosei flipped out when Morgans published the Gear 5 photo on the bounties and newspapers worldwide
@@henrypeters5291 Theres more D people with a bounty like Blackbeard. Imu and the Gorosei did state that the people currently holding the D dont even know its true meaning. So i guess they did not see It as dangerous individually
@@javijavinomi6282 No that part I get. I do not think it is wrong that they did not try to hide Luffy's or anyone else's name initially, especially since he would not have gotten on their radar until after he defeated Crocodile. I think it is stupid that they basically tried to retcon what are probably thousands if not millions of bounty posters.
I wanna point out (if morj doesn’t in this video) that Oars Jr’s ship in marineford has a very conspicuous sun right next to his jolly roger on his sail!!
Hygoro mentioned luffy in gear 4 looking like a God of Fire (or wisdom god if y'all remember the earlier translation). So it could be argued Wano did have a concept of a god persisting
@ShadowCave590Not really. The character motivations are so different. Naruto was obsessed with being accepted, so he clung onto being a savior and the chosen one stuff just followed because of bad writing. In this case, I could never see Luffy embracing any kind of destiny or obligation. That completely goes against his need for freedom.
because he was always is Nika from the very beginning even before getting part of Nika or df .In his flashback as 5 yr he denied Garp offer because Nika doesn't like his Freedom being taken away .
@@silver_soul Yeah but he's the only one in the story who awakened the gomu gomu fruit since Joyboy so no he wasn't guaranteed to save anyone unlike Naruto who was born that way.
It might be seen as fringe but i have a theory that the paws on Kuma are actually the sun(sun god) being surrounded by 3 smaller celestial bodies. The larger sun is surrounded by pluto(pluton), posiedon(neptune), and Uranus. Or its just an abstract palm eith 3 fingers.
I love how all the interesting races with unique powers - Fishmen (can swim and breathe underwater), Giants (have three times the lifespan and massive bodies), Minks (possess electricity powers), Kozuki (unique language or writing fonts and brute samurai power), Buccaneers (tanky build), Shandians (have technology and wings?), and Lunarians (firepower, tanky build, and wings) - all side with the Joyboy Empire, while the WG only has humans and giants (due to enslavement and with the help of Mother Carmel). How tf do Imu and the Gorosei single-handle all these races? 😂 Another mysterious race is the Oni (we only get a glimpse in Yamato and Kaido's fight) with horn and a power of tanky build, I suppose? Other extra organ races (long legs, hands, neck, head, nose 😂) seem like minor races, and I don't think they will play a major role in the series. Maybe these extra organ races are the effect of nika's df awakening
One thing I’ve been thinking about. Toki could have sent momo and crew to further into the future when it would have been “safe” after the incoming dawn for seen in 20 years. But both Toki and Oden wanted their people and children to witness and HELP liberate the world. They could have taken the easy way out but instead felt they needed to be there by his side to help out. The fact that the Nika supporters don’t just sit aside and wait for their savior they HELP and work towards achieving those dreams. JoyBoy isn’t there to save them single-handedly. They walk that path with him.
I think it's even that JoyBoy CAN'T single handedly save the world. Time and again in One Piece Luffy NEEDS help from others to achieve his goals, Impel Down is a good example, but there are many more
I really hope we see King/Alber again I was kinda of disappointed he didn't bring more information about Joyboy since he's the last lunarian I feel like he didn't completely give up on his goal it will be very tragic he gets tortured again on the hands of the WG I see him appearing for the final war lunarians are difficult to be ignored
@@rng-mos2314 how can you watch this video and still think it's a retcon? Joyboy and the Sun God have been mentioned ages ago in many different arcs, the very existence of Joyboy and the importance given to him in Fishman Island means Oda had this in his mind already. Or are you saying the promise Joyboy made with Fishman Island was just something Oda said casually without even knowing what the promise was? Damn, some people want so badly to watch a shounen with an overpowered protagonist, with Luffy's Gear 5 being a super muscular Goku form, that they ignore the whole story just to get mad and say it was an ass pull. Luffy has *always* been a goofy warrior of liberation, and there have been mentions of Joyboy since 2011, if you think anything pertaining to this is a "retcon" then you simply don't understand One Piece.
The thing I'm the most interested in is luffy's reaction to all of this worship If he couldn't handle the grand fleet seeing him as their boss , imagine how annoyed he'll be to see the the entire world worshipping him
@@Yadanisss Oda did NOT cook with all this chosen one bullshit I don’t mind gear 5 in design and toon force powers but everything else is trash Luffy was much more appealing as a regular guy who just wants to be king of the pirates that’s the Luffy that I loved
@@Mohamad-m7md well it’s been foreshadowed since the beginning so if you hate it ,you will love it eventually because it’s one of the focal points of the entire story .And cmon bro we all know since the beginning luffy ain’t no “regular guy” .He is Joyboy and always has been ,if we get to the void century and they never prophesied the return of Joyboy then wtf even is this story .One piece ain’t just a pirate manga my bro it’s way deeper then that .
@@Yadanisss It wasn’t forshadowed Luffy is gonna be treated like Enel and imu I hate that Luffy was far from the chosen one trope in pre time skip he was much more compelling as this one in a million pirates who just has a DF and a dream Luffy was never foreshadowed pre time skip to be nikka it’s an awful retcon so just stop coping and stop eating Oda’s dick
Could it be that Bonny will become a key character to reach the One Piece like Brook is? Musik becomes more and more important. Drums of Liberation is a specific rhythm that a professional musician like Brook can use and even enhance with his Devil Fruit. Considering that Kumar might have told her countless stories and prophecies about Nika while she was growing up, she could give the needed hints at what is the most important about the Drums of Liberation and what it will do to the people of the world. Side note: Since Romance Dawn Luffy wanted mainly two crew members as early as possible: A chef and a musician. At one point a musician was more important than a chef.
With the Shandians mostly worshipping the god of the land, there's something to be said about a false god comparison. The Vearth was worshipped because it was rare up in the sky, but ultimately the island's presence only brought suffering, and it's rarity seems silly in comparison with the world below. Idk, just a thought
I think that the reason Oda didn't tell about Nika earlier is because it would've been obvious that Luffy is Nika, or that Luffy inherited his will. And Oda didn't want the story to be predictable.
The scene of bonney realising luffy is sungod have the cahnces to become top 5 best moments in one piece . The timing the desperation is perfect here . They just have to use perfect soundtrack and animation . Like they can use into the grandline sound
They better not fumble it like G5 reveal bro but so far looks like Egghead’s animation style and their mindset switched a bit so anime has a good chance to become more peak than Wano
@@farasty7371 In my opinion it got fumbled because the anime had 3 repeated scenes and what little you could see in that episode was hard to follow. I'm also a little bit biased against it since I read the manga before it got to G5 and was expecting it to be a much faster paced climactic reveal, but the show dragged it on.
hey morj. did u notice that nika, the sun god, reincarnating in wano is not a coincident? wano is the portayal of japan and i think oda is deliberately telling us that japan is the land of the rising sun.
You don't know how happy I get to hear theories .... like yes give me a great reason to sub challenge my knowledge this is what the community should be centered around
@@dothangbui4918 been on her for bout a year she good her last theory was intriguing and different but I want others to be on theories and not chapter reviews because we all are reading each chapter give me your opinions and I'll sub/watch all their videos but its too many people center around chapter reviews and maybe 1 theory every 8 months
@@floriandolder8111 Zunesha doesn’t have to spell it out for them. Like shouldn’t Nika at least be in Mink history books and shit like that? The Dog and Cat rode with Roger too. Them being completely in the dark doesn’t make sense
its not a coincidence that all ancient mythologies AND religions in our world are all actually “worship” of the sun as well. Its just been encoded through allegory and parables, not a coincidence that the dawn of our world is coming at the same time that this masterpiece is coming out.
I'm thinking the Ancient Kingdom wasn't all sunshine and roses. The Fishmen have a history of slavery, but the troubles with fishmen started only 200 years ago? That's far from their entire history. So we're left to wonder "who's who?". Was the Ancient Kingdom truly who Joyboy fought to liberate? Or did Joyboy fight to end human and Buccaneer slavery at the hands of the stronger races? If he did, then perhaps his crime was going against calls for punitive slavery that came from his own side. He and his Buccaneer kin were enslaved for the stand they took to prevent the cycle of hatred from continuing. They fought their own side and lost. I think Joyboy was too early. Those old wounds had to heal before the dawn could come. I think the fishmen gained immunity by continuing the slave trade under the WG. Jinbe acknowledged the violence of fishmen at Marineford, but we all thought he was referring to Arlong. What if it's not so simple? I believe that 200 years ago, the fishmen broke the deal, releasing the Buccaneers and causing the Iron giant incident. Their knowledge of Joyboy is second hand. They gained that knowledge indirectly though the slaves they oversaw, explaining their vague awareness of a Sun God. The Buccaneers, once freed by the fishmen, located Joyboy's Iron Giant that he had used first to fight the Ancient Kingdom, and second to fight his own side. They began to play the drums of liberation, it then came to life and promptly assaulted Marie Jois. The fishmen freeing the Buccaneers is symbolic of those old wounds healing, setting the stage for the new dawn.
Bc of the giants life spans we can assume that the void century isn’t that lost on them. They probably know what happened back then but the question is why haven’t they retaliated? Not even fighting the WG, but why haven’t they at least attempted to spread the truth throughout the world?
Since Toei began Egghead I cannot wait for the Kuma Flashback. Seeing the video reminded me of Kuma and his dad frequently doing the Nika dance and chanting Doon-Dut-Dut. I was so curious since I first read that in the manga what that sounded like. Hopefully toei does not disappoint.
I think Oda knows what his world contains, since he crafted it for decades. And he knows his last page. Aside from that, the way there doesn't depend on him, but on the characters, since they are alive in his head. That's why he always suprises us, since aside from the world and the ending everything happens according to the characters.
What do you guys think about the “D.“s being the natural Enemies of the Gods and now Luffy being called a God himself? Does it go against the “Enemy of the Gods“ idea or does it work?
With the way Nika and the OG 20 Kingdoms/WG have been presented in the story, I think it's a pretty safe bet to say that Luffy and the WG are not the same types of "gods." The WG/ Celestial Dragons are false gods who have propped themselves up after defeating the Ancient Kingdom and suppressing their history. The Sun God and "Celestial Dragons/gods" are not the same type of gods.
@@hoowang9962 Yes, definitely false Gods. I mean can you be the enemy of the (false) gods and be called a god at the same time? I wonder how Oda will expand upon these things.
@@RaffyDGoat i mean think about it the false god who are putting up a act would def treat the real god/warrior of liberation as their enemy and i think D. clan members are the descendants of ancient kingdom
Personally speaking..a savior..one "true" lord narrative is something of a pass for me.I do think the story will diverge.If not,i think the story turned out to be something i wasn't expecting.A bunch of rag tag group of guys on an adventure with a purpose emerging. It also reduces the people who came before and other devil fruits.from whitebeard literally destroying marine head quarters to whales that kept banging on the walls with their heads.
Whitebeard gave a 2nd wind to the great pirate era, all these guys have sacrificed to preserve their hope that they'll be ready to overthrow the gov't, like Kuma and Dragon.
I hope despite all this that Luffy is never made aware of this knowledge. Oda has been very careful keeping Luffy away from all conversations about ancient history pertaining to Joyboy or Nika
@@bluestarsaberstarwarsfan3838 Plus Oda can always have him conveniently eating or sleeping during such conversations. But then I'm still curious about this part of Whitebeard's speech: "And someday, someone will come, bearing the history of all those decades on his back will challenge the world to a fight" We've seen Luffy declare war on the world before, but when has he ever put history on his back?
i really don't think kuma is the last buccaneer in existence, even if explicitly stated there's always a chance that there's another one or 2 out there
I think the eight circles on the outside of the sun symbol symbolize the eight islands that were followers of Nika: Alabasta, Jaya/Skypeia, Fishman Island, Wano, Sorbet, and now in Chapter 1106, Elbaf. We have 6, we are still missing 2. I think Zou is more than likely one but we haven’t seen the sun symbol so I can’t confirm. And then maybe whatever Water 7 or Tottoland were.
@@williamrodriguez7065 my guess is history is repeating itself, and Luffy‘s allies are Joy Boy’s allies. So the dwarves/Totland were one of Joy Boy’s allies.
@@77-7- Them too. That's why I want the next cover story to be King looking for more Lunarians. The "tribe at the top of the world" that had their home invaded when the CD wanted to build Marijoa feels too important.
If the Kozuki line passed down the skill of writing poneglyphs, why couldn't they also pass down information about the void century like the story of Nika?
I agree that most people who have used Nika's name in the story so far make sense to know it and that his existence was foreshadowed more subtly through broader sun/dawn/Joy Boy-based legends. I think what I'm mainly puzzled about is the timing; how the last two arcs were the first to feature several characters who fully knew of the legend. It kinda just feels like a necessary consequence of trying to surprise the reader, reminiscent of the numerous story coincidences the Straw Hats found themselves in like stumbling across Momonosuke and Kin'emon or meeting Vegapunk right when he's set to be executed.
The only thing that confuses me about Nika is that nobody at all said his name in the impel down arc. Just the whisper back then would’ve had the fanbase dying for years
Oda simply retconned Luffy's DF in Wano to make his fight against the World Government even more symbolic (and to make him even more of a chosen one, as if he wasn't one to begin with). We can headcannon all we want and try to justify it but it's quite hard to believe that Oda, the guy who adds constant hints for mysteries that need hundreds of chapters to be explained, wasn't able to even mention this legendary sun god until what, 15 chapters before it showed up for the first time?
Not really when you know that the WG obviously erase all trace of sun god nika in the world, thats why we never heard of him until we reach the littéral Island closed to the rest of the world and the WG I know its frsutrating but it make sense that we year about him only now Just like IM or the god knights, until they become relevant in the story, it doesnt make sense to talk about them before
They didn’t say the name Nika, but the sun god was talked about during the skypiea ark even foreshadowing luffy dancing exactly like the picture of the legend.
@@Codeezey That's not foreshadowing. That's Oda retroactively making a small panel into something important later on. It would have been foreshadowing if we saw some painting about Nika in Shandora that had that exact pose, but we didn't.
@@Codeezey 1) There's also other gods mentioned in that same panel, so it doesn't mean anything. 2) A Sun god might be the most basic concept for a deity, it doesn't mean that Nika was planed since Skypiea.
No matter what the world government try to erase sun god nika existed they can not erase he's will no matter he will return free all slaves and bring down the world government and celestial dragons they cant never escape the fate its self
It’s true that Jim didn’t react to Lupe’s gear five but I think the freshman might know something about nika because when who’s who brought it up in their fight Jimbei got extremely angry and beat the shit out of bro low-key😭
Well, Kaido also knew about Sun God Nika and he was of Oni race. So there's some chances that the Onis also knew about Nika. Kaido and Yamato are the only two onis we have seen. Therefore, we can conclude that the Onis were also erased by the World Government since they knew about the Sun God. Okay guys, some corrections - Kaido didn't know about Nika but Joyboy. They are not the only Onis we have seen. Magellan was also a potential Oni, and there is a potential Oni in BB's crew too. Forgot his name.
Do you guys think somehow the iron giant tipped off the rest of the giants of Nika's presence? And when they heard about it maybe Shanks explained how that was in fact Luffy? Idk I'm not one for providing hypotheses lol it was just a passing thought
Fishman island wanting to live on the surface might have more to do with Nika than with their current living conditions. It's kinda silly that they don't want to settle any other underwater area. Their planet surface is like 4/5ths ocean and all they need is shallow water to experience sunlight, so what are they really waiting for?
MAMADRAWK CALLED IT!! She was only halfway through Loguetown where she theorized Luffy is Sun God, and when she reached Little Garden she solidified that theory. ❤
I mean the problem here is that the Shandians were not separated from the World Government until the knock up stream 400 years ago, and they knew more than the Skypieans who were even more isolated from the rest of the world. Also, it does not explain how the two most isolated groups, Wano and Zou know less than the Fishman.
im guessing is that legend of nika and the worship of the sun predate the void century but wasn't worshiped everywhere. it story rose to prominence with the creation of devil fruits and joyboy being the one to awaken nika and people banded under the symbol of the sun. then world government went about erasing it. the reason i say this is most of the one piece isnt religious, its sprinkled here and there. we dont see many religions that had it roots in nika but evolve from it just the shandians and it seem they did that on their own. the minks and fishman know the sun is important but have no religion around it or even a religion to speak of. in real life when a new group came into power, they often forced their religion on the people or did syncretism which cause the religion to change and parts of it to be lost. i know the world gov stamped it out but they couldve easily replaced nika with say imu as the object of reverence if the majority of people were in religious at the time. maybe oda didn't want to muddy the water with having a bunch of offshoot religions.
8:21 I like how Morj chose Inuarashi instead of Carrot to represent the minks despite her being literally appointed as their leader. Goes to show how much of a forced conclusion that was for her character.
Bro it’s been hyped asf since finding out luffy was the sun god nika I just can’t wait to see who has the other 3 god fruits and how robust their awakened abilities are bro this final war/saga finna be some different 😊
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i think the world government did a great cleansing worldwide and got rid of everyone, it was mentioned in the past!
then no one knew of nika etc. , truly evil stuff, much like people feel tartaria was replaced in real life by mud floods and that the land was built over the previous one, i feel the world government did something similar, thanks for the video morj!
What's up with that hair?
Dorry and Broggy being there looking for Nika proves why the Gorosei flipped out when Morgans published the Gear 5 photo on the bounties and newspapers worldwide
Yes but the idea that they only decided to remove the D. from Luffy's name after they found out about his devil fruit was ridiculous.
@@henrypeters5291 Theres more D people with a bounty like Blackbeard. Imu and the Gorosei did state that the people currently holding the D dont even know its true meaning. So i guess they did not see It as dangerous individually
@@javijavinomi6282 No that part I get. I do not think it is wrong that they did not try to hide Luffy's or anyone else's name initially, especially since he would not have gotten on their radar until after he defeated Crocodile. I think it is stupid that they basically tried to retcon what are probably thousands if not millions of bounty posters.
Thissss
@@henrypeters5291 The Walking in all Hall. Sorry i don’t
If Luffy goes to Elbaf and is immediately worshiped, that would be hilarious. A nation of giant Hancocks.
Almost read that last bit wrong 😂
Even if you did, it'd still be true. @@gurururuwarararara8164
@@gurururuwarararara8164
dereshishishi dereshishishi
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the last word is a trap 😂
I wanna point out (if morj doesn’t in this video) that Oars Jr’s ship in marineford has a very conspicuous sun right next to his jolly roger on his sail!!
Oars senior definitely has some kind of ties to Joyboy. Continent puller? Maybe he was punished for helping Joyboy by making the red line?
I’m going back in a little while I got a couple of errands done I got a couple errands done ✅
Hygoro mentioned luffy in gear 4 looking like a God of Fire (or wisdom god if y'all remember the earlier translation). So it could be argued Wano did have a concept of a god persisting
and for wano ppl, this god looks japanese-like, gear 4th luffy looks like a sumo fighter.
the silhuete of nika tho, looks like shandian ppl.
Gear 4 was literally the biggest hint ,even enel tried to be a God with his last form
I was surprised he didn’t mention this
Joyboy being a giant, lunarian with the gum powers would be so freaking OP
Giant fish man lunarian rubber god 😅
"Would"? He can already turn into a giant, already has white hair/red eyes and is obviously still rubber.
Joyboy was probably a bucaneer honestly
@@Poio_Freido Who?
@@Poio_FreidoI also thought this when vegapunk was like "and the buccaneers blah blah blah" and got cut off.
Id love to see luffys reaction to this whole sun god thing. I feel like he wouldnt give a shit and being worshipped would just annoy him.
@ShadowCave590Not really. The character motivations are so different. Naruto was obsessed with being accepted, so he clung onto being a savior and the chosen one stuff just followed because of bad writing. In this case, I could never see Luffy embracing any kind of destiny or obligation. That completely goes against his need for freedom.
@ShadowCave590 the crucial difference is that Luffy doesn't know anything about the prophecy or Nika, so he's still acting on his own agency
@ShadowCave590why ?
because he was always is Nika from the very beginning even before getting part of Nika or df .In his flashback as 5 yr he denied Garp offer because Nika doesn't like his Freedom being taken away .
@@silver_soul Yeah but he's the only one in the story who awakened the gomu gomu fruit since Joyboy so no he wasn't guaranteed to save anyone unlike Naruto who was born that way.
It might be seen as fringe but i have a theory that the paws on Kuma are actually the sun(sun god) being surrounded by 3 smaller celestial bodies. The larger sun is surrounded by pluto(pluton), posiedon(neptune), and Uranus. Or its just an abstract palm eith 3 fingers.
Neat observation
His DF is stated to be tied to Nika, so maybe
I also believe that the Kuja tribe may also have a history with Nika since their jolly roger has a sun like reference.
They may also have ties to Nefertari D Lili, who may have been either related to Joy Boy or closely worked with Joy Boy.
@@osonhoustonyup
Is Kuja tribe the Amazon women ?
@__M7MD Yes, the Kuja Pirates are from Amazon Lilly.
I love how all the interesting races with unique powers - Fishmen (can swim and breathe underwater), Giants (have three times the lifespan and massive bodies), Minks (possess electricity powers), Kozuki (unique language or writing fonts and brute samurai power), Buccaneers (tanky build), Shandians (have technology and wings?), and Lunarians (firepower, tanky build, and wings) - all side with the Joyboy Empire, while the WG only has humans and giants (due to enslavement and with the help of Mother Carmel). How tf do Imu and the Gorosei single-handle all these races? 😂 Another mysterious race is the Oni (we only get a glimpse in Yamato and Kaido's fight) with horn and a power of tanky build, I suppose? Other extra organ races (long legs, hands, neck, head, nose 😂) seem like minor races, and I don't think they will play a major role in the series. Maybe these extra organ races are the effect of nika's df awakening
i think there was fewer of all the other races, so the humans won due to sheer numbers
One thing I’ve been thinking about. Toki could have sent momo and crew to further into the future when it would have been “safe” after the incoming dawn for seen in 20 years. But both Toki and Oden wanted their people and children to witness and HELP liberate the world. They could have taken the easy way out but instead felt they needed to be there by his side to help out. The fact that the Nika supporters don’t just sit aside and wait for their savior they HELP and work towards achieving those dreams. JoyBoy isn’t there to save them single-handedly. They walk that path with him.
I think it's even that JoyBoy CAN'T single handedly save the world. Time and again in One Piece Luffy NEEDS help from others to achieve his goals, Impel Down is a good example, but there are many more
I really hope we see King/Alber again I was kinda of disappointed he didn't bring more information about Joyboy since he's the last lunarian I feel like he didn't completely give up on his goal it will be very tragic he gets tortured again on the hands of the WG I see him appearing for the final war lunarians are difficult to be ignored
Luffy's final attack at the end of the series needs to be him making the earth a universal basketball or else he's a false prophet.
The pirate king is the man who dunk slams the entire world
Dawn Dunk
Gum gum Lebron James
Morj consistently putting out the most detailed, evidence-backed analysis of OP
That's why he's the goat OP-tuber
Morj rightfully treated one piece as real literature🎉
No it's trying to justify this awful retcon
@@rng-mos2314 how can you watch this video and still think it's a retcon? Joyboy and the Sun God have been mentioned ages ago in many different arcs, the very existence of Joyboy and the importance given to him in Fishman Island means Oda had this in his mind already. Or are you saying the promise Joyboy made with Fishman Island was just something Oda said casually without even knowing what the promise was?
Damn, some people want so badly to watch a shounen with an overpowered protagonist, with Luffy's Gear 5 being a super muscular Goku form, that they ignore the whole story just to get mad and say it was an ass pull. Luffy has *always* been a goofy warrior of liberation, and there have been mentions of Joyboy since 2011, if you think anything pertaining to this is a "retcon" then you simply don't understand One Piece.
@@rng-mos2314 been a while since nika revealed, even morj spoonfed u in this vid. if u still call that a retcon youre clueless.. foh
you miss the part about hyogoro mention about luffy form, btw nice detailed video
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Morj, you've mastered reflecting One Piece to the real world. This is the uniqueness of your channel. Keep it up
The thing I'm the most interested in is luffy's reaction to all of this worship
If he couldn't handle the grand fleet seeing him as their boss , imagine how annoyed he'll be to see the the entire world worshipping him
And being that he is like that it's crazy he wants to be king of the pirates lol
@@marcusharris9265Wel only know once his dream is revealed ,let Oda cook🧑🍳
@@Yadanisss
Oda did NOT cook with all this chosen one bullshit I don’t mind gear 5 in design and toon force powers but everything else is trash Luffy was much more appealing as a regular guy who just wants to be king of the pirates that’s the Luffy that I loved
@@Mohamad-m7md well it’s been foreshadowed since the beginning so if you hate it ,you will love it eventually because it’s one of the focal points of the entire story .And cmon bro we all know since the beginning luffy ain’t no “regular guy” .He is Joyboy and always has been ,if we get to the void century and they never prophesied the return of Joyboy then wtf even is this story .One piece ain’t just a pirate manga my bro it’s way deeper then that .
@@Yadanisss
It wasn’t forshadowed Luffy is gonna be treated like Enel and imu I hate that Luffy was far from the chosen one trope in pre time skip he was much more compelling as this one in a million pirates who just has a DF and a dream Luffy was never foreshadowed pre time skip to be nikka it’s an awful retcon so just stop coping and stop eating Oda’s dick
Could it be that Bonny will become a key character to reach the One Piece like Brook is?
Musik becomes more and more important. Drums of Liberation is a specific rhythm that a professional musician like Brook can use and even enhance with his Devil Fruit.
Considering that Kumar might have told her countless stories and prophecies about Nika while she was growing up, she could give the needed hints at what is the most important about the Drums of Liberation and what it will do to the people of the world.
Side note:
Since Romance Dawn Luffy wanted mainly two crew members as early as possible: A chef and a musician. At one point a musician was more important than a chef.
With the Shandians mostly worshipping the god of the land, there's something to be said about a false god comparison.
The Vearth was worshipped because it was rare up in the sky, but ultimately the island's presence only brought suffering, and it's rarity seems silly in comparison with the world below.
Idk, just a thought
I think that the reason Oda didn't tell about Nika earlier is because it would've been obvious that Luffy is Nika, or that Luffy inherited his will. And Oda didn't want the story to be predictable.
Still waiting for smoker to join the crew oda be throwing them curve balls
That's not happening. There was a point it was a possibility, but not anymore.
Such a nice explanation for the absence of Nika through the earlier parts of the history.
The scene of bonney realising luffy is sungod have the cahnces to become top 5 best moments in one piece . The timing the desperation is perfect here . They just have to use perfect soundtrack and animation . Like they can use into the grandline sound
They better not fumble it like G5 reveal bro but so far looks like Egghead’s animation style and their mindset switched a bit so anime has a good chance to become more peak than Wano
@@whywhy8276how did the anime fumble the gear 5th reveal?
@@farasty7371 In my opinion it got fumbled because the anime had 3 repeated scenes and what little you could see in that episode was hard to follow. I'm also a little bit biased against it since I read the manga before it got to G5 and was expecting it to be a much faster paced climactic reveal, but the show dragged it on.
@@whywhy8276facts it was 90% orochi 10% g5
hey morj. did u notice that nika, the sun god, reincarnating in wano is not a coincident? wano is the portayal of japan and i think oda is deliberately telling us that japan is the land of the rising sun.
You don't know how happy I get to hear theories .... like yes give me a great reason to sub challenge my knowledge this is what the community should be centered around
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@@dothangbui4918 been on her for bout a year she good her last theory was intriguing and different but I want others to be on theories and not chapter reviews because we all are reading each chapter give me your opinions and I'll sub/watch all their videos but its too many people center around chapter reviews and maybe 1 theory every 8 months
How are the residents of Zou not intimately familiar with Nika when Zunesha clearly has major ties to Joyboy?
Because unlike Chopper they don't speak with animals
The Minks can't communicate with Zunesha. They have no clue what he knows
@@TheRockerX still odd that they of all races seem the most in the dark about joyboy compared to even the fish men
Zunseha is not particularly informative unless you have the Voice of all Things.
@@floriandolder8111 Zunesha doesn’t have to spell it out for them. Like shouldn’t Nika at least be in Mink history books and shit like that? The Dog and Cat rode with Roger too. Them being completely in the dark doesn’t make sense
We can find legitimate explanations for anything in a story, even outright inconsistencies, if we are interested enough.
Great analysis as usual. I never would have made that connection with different races.
I was inclined to believe that the Buccaneers were slaughtered due to their belief in Nika as I read Kuma's backstory.
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i love that story decisions Oda makes that at first can seem random actually hold up to a lot of scrutiny. great video!
there are no coincidences.
its not a coincidence that all ancient mythologies AND religions in our world are all actually “worship” of the sun as well. Its just been encoded through allegory and parables, not a coincidence that the dawn of our world is coming at the same time that this masterpiece is coming out.
I really wish Oda didn't go this jesus route man we already got this with naruto and it was ass there too
Why did we never hear about Nika before wano ? Because was an ass pull by oda
I'm thinking the Ancient Kingdom wasn't all sunshine and roses. The Fishmen have a history of slavery, but the troubles with fishmen started only 200 years ago? That's far from their entire history. So we're left to wonder "who's who?". Was the Ancient Kingdom truly who Joyboy fought to liberate? Or did Joyboy fight to end human and Buccaneer slavery at the hands of the stronger races? If he did, then perhaps his crime was going against calls for punitive slavery that came from his own side. He and his Buccaneer kin were enslaved for the stand they took to prevent the cycle of hatred from continuing. They fought their own side and lost. I think Joyboy was too early. Those old wounds had to heal before the dawn could come.
I think the fishmen gained immunity by continuing the slave trade under the WG. Jinbe acknowledged the violence of fishmen at Marineford, but we all thought he was referring to Arlong. What if it's not so simple?
I believe that 200 years ago, the fishmen broke the deal, releasing the Buccaneers and causing the Iron giant incident. Their knowledge of Joyboy is second hand. They gained that knowledge indirectly though the slaves they oversaw, explaining their vague awareness of a Sun God. The Buccaneers, once freed by the fishmen, located Joyboy's Iron Giant that he had used first to fight the Ancient Kingdom, and second to fight his own side. They began to play the drums of liberation, it then came to life and promptly assaulted Marie Jois. The fishmen freeing the Buccaneers is symbolic of those old wounds healing, setting the stage for the new dawn.
Jimbei certainly seemed to react to Nika specifically during his battle in Wano.
Bc of the giants life spans we can assume that the void century isn’t that lost on them. They probably know what happened back then but the question is why haven’t they retaliated? Not even fighting the WG, but why haven’t they at least attempted to spread the truth throughout the world?
Since Toei began Egghead I cannot wait for the Kuma Flashback. Seeing the video reminded me of Kuma and his dad frequently doing the Nika dance and chanting Doon-Dut-Dut. I was so curious since I first read that in the manga what that sounded like. Hopefully toei does not disappoint.
I think Oda knows what his world contains, since he crafted it for decades. And he knows his last page. Aside from that, the way there doesn't depend on him, but on the characters, since they are alive in his head. That's why he always suprises us, since aside from the world and the ending everything happens according to the characters.
What do you guys think about the “D.“s being the natural Enemies of the Gods and now Luffy being called a God himself? Does it go against the “Enemy of the Gods“ idea or does it work?
With the way Nika and the OG 20 Kingdoms/WG have been presented in the story, I think it's a pretty safe bet to say that Luffy and the WG are not the same types of "gods." The WG/ Celestial Dragons are false gods who have propped themselves up after defeating the Ancient Kingdom and suppressing their history. The Sun God and "Celestial Dragons/gods" are not the same type of gods.
@@hoowang9962 Yes, definitely false Gods. I mean can you be the enemy of the (false) gods and be called a god at the same time? I wonder how Oda will expand upon these things.
the people with d are most probably the soldiers or crewmates of nika now
@@RaffyDGoat i mean think about it the false god who are putting up a act would def treat the real god/warrior of liberation as their enemy and i think D. clan members are the descendants of ancient kingdom
Nika was born after the raid will not fail theory failed
yes that's why Kuma's story was so powerful, but why Bonnie is so important now, because even Kuma doesn't have the ability to communicate it.
Doom-Dut-Da-Da! Doom-Dut-Da-Da!
Personally speaking..a savior..one "true" lord narrative is something of a pass for me.I do think the story will diverge.If not,i think the story turned out to be something i wasn't expecting.A bunch of rag tag group of guys on an adventure with a purpose emerging.
It also reduces the people who came before and other devil fruits.from whitebeard literally destroying marine head quarters to whales that kept banging on the walls with their heads.
Whitebeard gave a 2nd wind to the great pirate era, all these guys have sacrificed to preserve their hope that they'll be ready to overthrow the gov't, like Kuma and Dragon.
I hope despite all this that Luffy is never made aware of this knowledge. Oda has been very careful keeping Luffy away from all conversations about ancient history pertaining to Joyboy or Nika
Given the giants are coming to save him and the straw hats now know thanks to vegapunk he very likely to know, though he is unlikely to care
In Hindu mythology Lord Hanuman was made aware of his divinity by Jambuban. Jambuban was a bear, so maybe Kuma will fulfil that role..
@@bluestarsaberstarwarsfan3838 Plus Oda can always have him conveniently eating or sleeping during such conversations.
But then I'm still curious about this part of Whitebeard's speech:
"And someday, someone will come, bearing the history of all those decades on his back will challenge the world to a fight"
We've seen Luffy declare war on the world before, but when has he ever put history on his back?
What if Jaguar D Saul, or another pirate we just, is actually the grandson of the captain of the giant pirates who was alive during the void century?
i really don't think kuma is the last buccaneer in existence, even if explicitly stated there's always a chance that there's another one or 2 out there
I think the eight circles on the outside of the sun symbol symbolize the eight islands that were followers of Nika: Alabasta, Jaya/Skypeia, Fishman Island, Wano, Sorbet, and now in Chapter 1106, Elbaf. We have 6, we are still missing 2. I think Zou is more than likely one but we haven’t seen the sun symbol so I can’t confirm. And then maybe whatever Water 7 or Tottoland were.
Well Zou gets their sun from Wano, and Zunisha knows Joy Boy, but where the fuck did u get Tottoland?
@@williamrodriguez7065 my guess is history is repeating itself, and Luffy‘s allies are Joy Boy’s allies. So the dwarves/Totland were one of Joy Boy’s allies.
@@samfisher6606the 8th is possibly lunarian
@@77-7- Them too. That's why I want the next cover story to be King looking for more Lunarians. The "tribe at the top of the world" that had their home invaded when the CD wanted to build Marijoa feels too important.
If the Kozuki line passed down the skill of writing poneglyphs, why couldn't they also pass down information about the void century like the story of Nika?
In NIKA we trust 2024 😂🤑
Im very curious how the life action will handle the nika lore
Yep. I think a clear indication or even bringing him early on would be good
First, RIP Pinmorj
Ready for the race war 🥵
Thanks for the consistent high quality One Piece content!
I bet when we get to Laughtale or the if they go to the ancient kingdom, there will be buccaneers living there.
I agree that most people who have used Nika's name in the story so far make sense to know it and that his existence was foreshadowed more subtly through broader sun/dawn/Joy Boy-based legends. I think what I'm mainly puzzled about is the timing; how the last two arcs were the first to feature several characters who fully knew of the legend. It kinda just feels like a necessary consequence of trying to surprise the reader, reminiscent of the numerous story coincidences the Straw Hats found themselves in like stumbling across Momonosuke and Kin'emon or meeting Vegapunk right when he's set to be executed.
The D always live a checkered life! It must be fate...shishishishi😅
The only thing that confuses me about Nika is that nobody at all said his name in the impel down arc. Just the whisper back then would’ve had the fanbase dying for years
Oda simply retconned Luffy's DF in Wano to make his fight against the World Government even more symbolic (and to make him even more of a chosen one, as if he wasn't one to begin with). We can headcannon all we want and try to justify it but it's quite hard to believe that Oda, the guy who adds constant hints for mysteries that need hundreds of chapters to be explained, wasn't able to even mention this legendary sun god until what, 15 chapters before it showed up for the first time?
Not really when you know that the WG obviously erase all trace of sun god nika in the world, thats why we never heard of him until we reach the littéral Island closed to the rest of the world and the WG
I know its frsutrating but it make sense that we year about him only now Just like IM or the god knights, until they become relevant in the story, it doesnt make sense to talk about them before
They didn’t say the name Nika, but the sun god was talked about during the skypiea ark even foreshadowing luffy dancing exactly like the picture of the legend.
@@Codeezey That's not foreshadowing. That's Oda retroactively making a small panel into something important later on. It would have been foreshadowing if we saw some painting about Nika in Shandora that had that exact pose, but we didn't.
@@Codeezey
1) There's also other gods mentioned in that same panel, so it doesn't mean anything.
2) A Sun god might be the most basic concept for a deity, it doesn't mean that Nika was planed since Skypiea.
Bc it was fucking retconned it wasnt foreshadowed it was shoehorned into the story
No matter what the world government try to erase sun god nika existed they can not erase he's will no matter he will return free all slaves and bring down the world government and celestial dragons they cant never escape the fate its self
It’s true that Jim didn’t react to Lupe’s gear five but I think the freshman might know something about nika because when who’s who brought it up in their fight Jimbei got extremely angry and beat the shit out of bro low-key😭
The true mystery is the prisoner who told whos who about nika, who are they? How do they know about nika?
it's wild that we got the name reveal from Who's Who, a character who's name i had to look up to remember it, lol
I just know a certain subreddit will be mad asf about this video lmaoo
Who’s that?
Clash of clans reddit?
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The WG just said “nuh-uh” a lot until people stopped believing in Nika.
Bruh, the comments section are cooking 🔥. You guys are geniuses.
Will you talk about the Wit Studio The One Piece anime adaptation?
Your hair looks really good in this episode
The only way I could do that was if you wanted me too I could come and pick it out and then I would have it ready
Heck the name of the ship is Thousand Sunny!!
Fishmen didn't know, because Oda decide d add nika later
Luffy is nothing without the Devil Fruit.
Reality = Fiction
Fiction = Reality
Luffy x Nami at the end GGWP :)
Its becauce Nika was in paris
Did Roger even know Nika?
Saturn’s raid is gonna fail
What about Kaido race?
Interesting point about the giants life span having them be not so far removed from events of long ago for most characters
One Piece is beautiful.
Whole lotta genocide
Hey Morj, what song did you use at 7:15-8:00? Nice track.
Well, Kaido also knew about Sun God Nika and he was of Oni race. So there's some chances that the Onis also knew about Nika. Kaido and Yamato are the only two onis we have seen. Therefore, we can conclude that the Onis were also erased by the World Government since they knew about the Sun God.
Okay guys, some corrections - Kaido didn't know about Nika but Joyboy. They are not the only Onis we have seen. Magellan was also a potential Oni, and there is a potential Oni in BB's crew too. Forgot his name.
Every race's connection to 'Nika' 💀
Do you guys think somehow the iron giant tipped off the rest of the giants of Nika's presence? And when they heard about it maybe Shanks explained how that was in fact Luffy? Idk I'm not one for providing hypotheses lol it was just a passing thought
Fishman island wanting to live on the surface might have more to do with Nika than with their current living conditions. It's kinda silly that they don't want to settle any other underwater area. Their planet surface is like 4/5ths ocean and all they need is shallow water to experience sunlight, so what are they really waiting for?
MAMADRAWK CALLED IT!! She was only halfway through Loguetown where she theorized Luffy is Sun God, and when she reached Little Garden she solidified that theory. ❤
Not sure how many people share this opinion already, but I believe that Pudding’s fruit was likely used to erase people’s memory of the sun god Nika
I mean the problem here is that the Shandians were not separated from the World Government until the knock up stream 400 years ago, and they knew more than the Skypieans who were even more isolated from the rest of the world. Also, it does not explain how the two most isolated groups, Wano and Zou know less than the Fishman.
im guessing is that legend of nika and the worship of the sun predate the void century but wasn't worshiped everywhere. it story rose to prominence with the creation of devil fruits and joyboy being the one to awaken nika and people banded under the symbol of the sun. then world government went about erasing it. the reason i say this is most of the one piece isnt religious, its sprinkled here and there. we dont see many religions that had it roots in nika but evolve from it just the shandians and it seem they did that on their own. the minks and fishman know the sun is important but have no religion around it or even a religion to speak of.
in real life when a new group came into power, they often forced their religion on the people or did syncretism which cause the religion to change and parts of it to be lost. i know the world gov stamped it out but they couldve easily replaced nika with say imu as the object of reverence if the majority of people were in religious at the time. maybe oda didn't want to muddy the water with having a bunch of offshoot religions.
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No oni joyboy candidate kaido or ancient giant Oars with strawhats an luffy possessed with joyboy nika moves
8:21 I like how Morj chose Inuarashi instead of Carrot to represent the minks despite her being literally appointed as their leader. Goes to show how much of a forced conclusion that was for her character.
Did you know that Big Mom and the Rocks Pirates were in Disney's Treasure Planet?
Bro it’s been hyped asf since finding out luffy was the sun god nika I just can’t wait to see who has the other 3 god fruits and how robust their awakened abilities are bro this final war/saga finna be some different 😊
Luffy my nikka
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