HARSTEM surprises CLEM in epic series! | $10,000 HomeStory Cup 24 (Bo5 PvT) - StarCraft 2
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- Опубліковано 5 гру 2023
- Subscribe to PiG Casts! 🐷 Clem (Terran) faced off against Harstem (Protoss) in the $10,000 HomeStory Cup 24 in this Best of 5 TvP StarCraft 2 Pro Series
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1:06:55 "But one fight like that and you're in big doodoo UNLESS YOU LAND A GIANT NUT!" Bro.... I died at that commentary.
SO GOOD
PiG you're a starcraft comedian man. "Harstem didn't realize he was having a yard sale! There's people in his house taking his furniture!" lol laughed for a solid 15 seconds
Woooh! Harstem is on fire. Very entertaining match. 😊
Amazing cast, I’ve been following your posts for a couple weeks and haven’t missed an upload. Great work!
1:22:00 Well, Harstem is closing the skill gap.
lmao great cast bacon boy and great uphill battle for old man harstem against the genetically engineered cyberterran. 39:28 nobody expects the british inquisition
Wow! Last game was a nail biter. Great series and great cast! Was not expecting a Midnight Oil song reference in a SC2 vid but nicely done.
14:43
Thanks PiG. Now I will always look at Classic as Mr. Metapod face. xD
Awesome cast, inspired play from Harstem, excited to see this up and comer pick off that #1 rank soon
"the balls take a second to cool off". Pig would probably like the prison episode of the boondocks.
PIG-game 4 should be submitted for the casting Oscar’s. Jokes, context, play by play; prestige performance
Clem has surely mastered the 5ds of dodgeball. dodge, duck, dipp, dive and dodge 🤭 GG
Oh Captain my Captain
31:19 epic death animation
"UNLESS YOU LAND A GIANT NUT!"...... perfect commentary!
You did better casting than the casters they have on ESL. I really love the in depth explanation on what's happening on the game.
1:04:44 that's juicy btw
Kev isn't the best player in most tournaments, but he's the best dude and personality in all of SC2. You always got to root for him.
As a Harstem fan, that second game was truly one of the games Harstem ever played.
Wicked series, god damn. Clem hungering down the Captain's cheese balls like a bin chicken, indeed. It must be mentally exhausting to play against that level of Terran micro.
Great cast, though.
14:12 lol
Great cast!! thanks for the video!!
Harstem casts with an ASMR voice. Soothing
To be fair, EMP counters Protoss, period.
Harstem's nickname in Australia is "The Sea Cucumber"
The game of the year, this week.
I feel like protoss needs to learn the moment you’re stable on 4+ bases, poke and prod without serious commitment while teching to tempest. The moment ranged Libs come out its always GG at the top 10 level.
That is very condescendent to players that are WAY better than you will ever be. Harstem won the first game against mass libs without tempests and playing afgainst the current top Terran in the world. Sure Tempests are the counter to libs, but that depends on the situation and they can weight the situation far better than you.
4:05 SCVs yearn for the (widow) mines
This series was like oversized boxers: there was simply too much freedom for Harstem's balls to handle.
1:07:00 "Unless he lands a GIANT NUT..."
Crazy Match!
Epoch of Harstem :D
My god the last game 😂
That last game is my fav game of 2023!
1:14:55 sick game!
Excellent comments just as usual, thanks Pig ! It would be nice to give us the reference for the viral Tiktok fake podcast, I have not seen it yet ;)
A fun fact is that this guys are very tall! I wonder if Harsem at 6'5" is taller than Showtime?
Hecate is heck-ket
44:00 dying with all that money in the bank is the kind of crap I do SMH
Gg!!
16:19 teabag
"GAME. OF. THE. YEAR."
-Lowko
Omg that third and fourth game... Harstem could have won both...
❤
I don't understand how these days protoss at around 7:30 - 8:00 (36:11) can always already have 3rd base well established with static defense, more workers, similar army size, and better tech.. Almost unbreakable if you push the thrid.. and TvP late game is still so hard.. Feel like unless I cheese with a one base push, or the protoss makes any mistatkes, there' no chance to win if the protoss knows how to play.
Pig for Prime Minister!
Surprise surprise terran wins again
Why
Are
Terrans
Not
Building
Tanks?
Because tanks are just not that good. Bad against chargelot, out ranged by disruptor, very immobile. It's just a horrible unit in TvP
GOOD ENGLANDO😂😂
I cant get over the fact that H arstem did not send that orange HP archon back to a shield battery to heal... THIS IS PRO LEVEL MAN, alt - click it out of the control group and send it home... it's not that hard!!! You guys optimize every second of a build but then you let a 300 gas unit die for no reason... Clem repairs his stuff too.
What if oracles could chose to spawn ”vision wards” apart from the stun and vision burst? Think this could mitigate the low map vision compared to zerg and terra
this would be the worst 'fix' possible. Stargate is already heavily favoured for basically every stage in the game, cheap fast harrasment, detection, anti armored in early, support for collosi.
Instead of bandaiding this with a horrible 'fix' that basically never works because everyone has perma detection everywhere all the time, except toss.
Observers shouldnt be costing gas. Protoss is the most gas starved race out there, because they need tech to even be able to match.
Observers also shouldnt be built in the robo, with the widespread easy access to detection(even early game) observers should be way more plentifull thus be made in the nexus/cybercore. This is not even talking about buildtime for immortals/collosi/prisms. The cost and utility of having multiple robos is bad.
What are you gonna make on mass robo when the enemy has air. immortals? they dont shoot up. Collosi? they dont shoot up. observers? they dont even attack. Its dead tech building. The reliance and cost of the robo makes it almost impossible to properly get out in numerous numbers.
Look at the ghost academy, 0 cost. Imagine robos costing the same, then it would be much much closer to where the game should be.
The reall problem is terrans whining about observers like they are invincible maphack mechanics, while a terran can click an area and literally maphack, use sensortowers to see every incomming attack, and has cheap fodder units they can throw out, where toss requires more of an investment.
They already have a “vision” spell. It reveals invisible and burrowed units, which creep doesn’t do. Hallucinations are just underutilized. Cheaper than a scan, faster than an overseer, and can be used for mind games. I’m surprised Protoss don’t hallucinate immortals and other units en masse in every game.
The reason p don’t use hallucinations is because the sentry costs 100 gas
And guardian shield and forcefields are usually much more important for the few sentries you do have
@@enriquegarciacota3914 guess that’s a point for map scout, though usually you want to save energy for guardian shields right? Before it was common with the phoenix scout. But that’s not the point I’m pushing. A ward, slightly less expensive or even same cost, could be utilized to create vision wards on the map that doesn’t go off by units passing by. Anyways, just a though that popped up, sc2 isn’t gonna get implementations like this anymore so it doesn’t matter.
@@Eraz0rZ fair points and I agree to what you say. I don’t see a vision ward for oracles as a band-aid though. It would still be a decision whether to keep energy for stun ward, attack damage or reveal. The ward wouldn’t necessarily see invisibles, but be a sort of balancing to the vision deficit of protoss. Wards would also prolong oracles into late game more, as you could use them to create map vision and hence want to keep em throughout the game. It would kind of make observers obsolete, unless the difference would be that observers see invisible and the wards don’t.
But having observers from nexus but demanding a cybernectic core and not cost gas, why not? In sc1 they didn’t cost gas as far as I remember.
Harstem on a game of the year????
Rooting for harstem, but clem must be the most annoying terran to have to play against.
Also, screw widow mines. They just suck out any enjoyment out of watching terrans play.
*Disruptors enter the chat* Get 5-8 disruptors, spam balls until opponent makes micro mistake, a move army. Unless you're Clem or another s-class terran, you can't dodge AND attack. Send a few DTs around the map and force the terran to save SCVs or save their army. Protoss, except for the HIGHEST level Terran players, are dominant. One micro mistake with a bio army and it's essentially over. Protoss can just warp in another army. Also, widow mines do very little damage compared to disruptors. A widow mine won't remove 40 army supply instantly, and also has MUCH lower range. It also doesn't instantly fire. Harstem is awful compared to Clem. He lucked out in the first game. In the second or third game, he had 3/3 upgrades versus Clem's 1/1 for over 8 minutes, a bigger economy, and STILL couldn't finish. Harstem is at best semi-pro. It's why he streams so heavily. He couldn't support himself on his non-existant tournament winnings, so streaming is the only way to make ends meet.
Of course clem is better than harstem but don’t project your own lack of skill onto the wider game
@@A7xFo "Lucked out in first game" the standard classy salty terran fanboy. Hastem played a great first game and nailed Clem. "One micro mistake with a bio army and it's essentially over" first im diamond 2 and Terrans usually dodge my disruptor shots, it isnt that difficult. Second we see plenty of PvT where Terrans take multiple disruptors shots and still win. "Protoss can warp in another army" yeah that will melt to amcuh smaller terran force. Widow mines do less dmg then disruptors, but also cost much less, and are invisible, and dont require active micro....
@@A7xFo just fyi widow mines cost the same as roaches. Disruptors are expensive and take up 4 supply. Widow mines are invisible and just a cancer unit to play against. The worst thing about them is that there is absolutely no risk for the terran to be taken, building widow mines. If you lose them, it doesn’t lose you the game. Compare that to losing 4 Disruptors. That can lose you the game. I also do not like the design of the disruptor, because it is mainly based on luck whether you hit a shot or not.
Apart from that, currently the biggest problem of the game is the ghost. Terran isn’t even allowed to cry as long as this unit remains in the game the way it is right now. It’s the most broken unit in the game right now. Super fast, super strong, high health, best spells in the game, invisible and a super strong auto attack. It not even loses the 50 energy, if the snipe doesn’t hit😂😂 Blizzard probably thought, making a unit, that nullifies all other casters with a simple click while being able to insta kill units, take away about half of the health of multiple units whilst being cloaked sounds like a good and balanced design. 😂 this unit is the problem, no one likes terran anymore. As a zerg, I often call the ghost a „speed battlecruiser on steroids“. But hey, Terrans say to me that the ghost was nerfed in the last patch :) do these „nerfs“ honestly have an impact on the current gameplay? No these nerfs do absolutely have not the impact that the game needed.
Nobody doubted clems the better player, but we do see the same problems in PvT gameplay involving the best Protoss players. Players literally can lose against mediocre pro players like spirit, whilst you never see it the other way round. The times of strong Protoss against terran are absolutely over. Pls blizzard nerf the ghost and delete the widow mine from the game. Maybe buff something for compensation but do not let RNG in terran gameplay ever again 🙏
The viagra kicks in... What???
Spoiler:
I don't get it. Harstem seemed to play without any relevant errors in the last game. He had 3/3 while clem was on 1/1, he had 5 bases with a gold base against 4 mining bases of clem, he had good zealot/dt harassment, good defense, sometimes 30-40 workers advantage with more mining bases etc.
Of course i know that the opponent is possibly number 1 terran right now. Despite the fact that clem has insanley good micro against disruptors and setting up liberators, etc, i think protoss lacks a useful lategame option. Not only because of balance but also because of attractivity of the game... I mean there is no good counter to liberators and ghosts instead of maneuvering. And while zerg and terran have aoe spells to deal with casters (fungal, emp), i think that toss should also have an option to counter ghosts without having to feedback a bunch of super small units below medivacs in a clump of bio. Maybe an emp style spell for toss that only hits ground (to prevent a imbalance with medivacs).
Being a Terran in diamond i perfectly know that toss lategame in the lower leagues seems to be imbalanced sometimes. On highest level it always seems vice versa and that toss lategame has less micro potential and good figured out counters to their lategame army comp (while i think toss early game and cheesing potential is super strong).
That being said i'm really happy to see harstem getting back in shape. The games vs serral were really good and these games against clem were also highest level.
Harstems fatal mistake was his poor economy managment. With so many over saturated bases and too few gas mining, as well as Robos, he couldnt keep up on Clems war of attrition.
Between emp and skillmines, thats what terran is
I think Harstem has the best Oracle control in StarCraft
Harstem did great, widow mines and EMP both need a nerf.
I hate these clickbait titles.
Oh, Harstem surprises Clem by taking a single map!
OMG!
The naggerlip toss had no chance. Even at his BEST, he can't touch Clem at his WORST.
Well he did take the first map, and the whole serie was fighting tooth and nail.
Clickbait ???? Oh yez
haha perhaps I was caught up in the heat of the moment, but the final game in this series legit felt like game of the year in the moment, bloody fun and back and forth gameplay
Harstem became to play better - that's the only conclusion.
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1:22:00 Well, Harstem is closing the skill gap.