Fredrick Douglas was freaking amazing!!! His whole story is fantastic and his attitude and reflections on our country and constitution are so insightful.
I was also red-pilled about two years ago. My religious beliefs were the reason behind my eyes being opened and because of this, I started really listening. My entire world view has changed by the grace of God.
I am failing to see what any of that information changes with conservatism or how anyone was red pilled. Because Backs own slaves the racial system built u p inthe US was never wrong? The institution in the US with laws and force of government were white and Blacks didn;t even get to vote. It changes almost nothing.
I was taught this in school as early as 8/9 in Scotland. We were taught about the Atlantic slave trade, African slave traders, the Barbary slave trade and the enslavement if Europeans buy the ottomans, Persians and north Africans, Vikings, Norman's and Romans. How adults in 2023 still don't understand what actually happened is rather alarming. It's no wonder racism is so rampant when people simply aren't educated.
Of course every country or nationality had slaves, but the inhumane way Europeans treated the African man woman and child was the true act of the devil. Can’t be compared, the white man took evilness to another level, and by the way young guys don’t get to far over your heads and think you’re playing on an equal playing field, because you’re not, we as black people don’t have much power at all because we don’t own much, believe it or not that horrifying murder on black Wall Street itself still has a negative impact on us. Guys y’all alright but trust me the impact of slavery is still here and still happening today, I’m so many ways.
My generation was only taught that white people brought slaves to the U.S. from Africa in big boats. That's it. nothing about how Africans themselves gathered the slaves for sale, etc
I am a 64-year-old white conservative woman. I have 3 adult sons. I am so enjoying your show since I happened to come across it days ago. All of the white people and everyone I know only want the best for black people. The fact that you guys don’t know this history shows how poor our school system is. The teachers unions need to be abolished and our schools need to be improved so they are taught actual history. I’m going to keep watching you guys as you become awake to reality that was kept from you.
Public Education needs to be ban. We need to go back to our roots that education is a private matter. Even the great 1500s Martin Luther stated government should never be in charge of education.
Your nuts if you think white people want the best for Black people. Most whites want to sweep the anti balck history and its outcome under the rug so they can carry on owning 99/9% of the wealth and power in this country.
Thomas Sowell was born poor, and fatherless, in South Carolina. He grew up in Harlem during the Great Depression, and rose to become a widely respected economist, professor, lecturer and author. An inspiration and role model for everyone, of every color.
@xchiro1818 Thomas Sowell perpetuates nonsense. Please do more research and follow the works W E Dubois Thurgood Marshall Paul Robeson Martin Luther King Ida B Wells and many many others who fought against the status quo in this country in order to improve the lives of black Americans. Thomas Sowell is the black apologist for the systemic oppression and racism that has plagued this country for over 400 years.
I have a black nephew through marrying my niece. He has been working really hard to break the chain of divorce etc in his family. He is working diligently to complete journeyman license in electrical trade. His family tells him he is just trying to be white. That is ridiculous. As his white uncle I am so proud of him and has nothing to do with race. He is caring and providing for his wife and two daughters.
I don’t get this attempted shaming of learning a well respected trade. Let’s posit that he would be doing something typically AfrA as an occupation. What would that be. I’m totally open minded on this and willing to listen. Would they be envious or jealous. I just don’t know.
@@presspound7358 I am not sure myself as common sense would tell us it should not even be an issue. I believe it is a by product of all the "race baiting" going on. BLM has proven to be a capital venture and promoter of this and yet they still receive accolades from the uneducated public.
This is a HUGE thing that many black people go through and it does not get talked about enough. Imagine telling a young black man that him working hard and making money and providing for his family makes him white. What does that make black people? It sickens me to my stomach, and many black people tell this same story over and over. When will it stop?
As an 'Old White Man' (I hate labels) from Detroit, I am heartened by all of you gentlemens' words and behavior. You are open-minded, open to debate, and not afraid to change your opinion based on new facts.
If you hate labels why label yourself 😂 Seriously though, I agree. A curious mind is a knowledgeable one, and to distance themselves from societal norms and have these discussions, will empower and enlighten them in so many ways.
@@topspot4834 Because 2/3s of interpersonal communication is nonverbal. We have to ammend our words in such a way that the reader can understand the subtext.
Woot. Gen X. Born and half raised in Detroit (summers at Grandmas and half of 5th and 6th grade in the D) yet I also lived in the suburbs, the country and a small town, then as an adult mostly lived in Flint. Absolutely Love The Conversations, open debates And Yes the ability to change opinions. More of this.
He's a Taskmaster!!! Exodus 1:11 [11]Therefore they did set over them taskmasters to afflict them with their burdens. And they built for Pharaoh treasure cities, Pithom and Raamses.
I agree. It still dumbfounds me when I've watched interviews where Sowell describes how he used to be a freaking marxist; before he had to confront what those ideas meant while working in the gov't, then pulled himself out of it. But I used to be a huge liberal/progressive so we all are capable of escaping ignorance if we choose to. :)
I'm so excited and amazed that my people are learning the truth about Slavery and how it started and ended. American school system have taught us the history they wanted us to know, and NOT the truth. I love that the truth is being outted. The truth shall set u free. Knowledge is power. ❤
THANK YOU!! As a non-American it has frustrated me immensely that black Americans believe they have ownership over the story of slavery, when history from the beginning of time shows differently. Thank you for being willing to learn a different perspective.
@@thorssthrnbtrfly8138 yes, because it was easier to go to Africa and enslave tribal people who were still enslaving each other than fight an entire militaristic battle with guns against developed societies
@@thorssthrnbtrfly8138 there's still a black slave trade today. Black people enslaving black people. TODAY. You're pretending that there was a different type of slavery in the US than other places. There wasn't and it's ridiculous to pretend. You're believing that because you want to think slavery here was worse than anywhere else. It wasn't.
As a white British man who has served in the royal navy I believe I could have contributed a good amount to the discussion.... the traditions and customs of the RN make sure that the history is kept alive, usually by a ceremony to commemorate a significant battle or event, every ceremony is an opportunity to learn what happened. The west Africa squadron patrolled the coast searching for slave traders from any country, even if they hadn't stopped slavery. The RN had " articles of war" issued by the king and government to stop and search all ships and free any slaves ( having even just one slave meant the ship and everything on board was confiscated) for which a bonus was paid for every slave freed.The West Africa squadron would destroy any prison forts built on the shoreline to hold the slaves ready for shipping when the transport ships came in.. This went on for around 50 years and cost 20,000 lives, some to illness and the rest in battle when some tried to fight or had an escort of a military or well armed ship or ships..... the RN would regularly go up against larger numbers ( especially Spanish) ship's because the Spanish had a weakness that limited their rate of fire and were not as well trained.... the weakness was the large amount of cannons on board ( which looked pretty intimidating) that out matched the RN gunners, but they were different bores ( took different sizes of cannon balls) but the RN had the same cannon balls, so even during fast and extreme manoeuvres that could send balls rolling over the deck every one could be used anywhere, but the Spanish had to check every one every time..... that's the end of the lesson today 😂
Very True, The only thing i disagreed on is The jail was create to hold Back Black people, when in Fact there was also white men Robbing Trains & Banks they also went to jail in the 1800's the Wanted posters were for mostly white men.
@@jakk2631 lol… the exact same thought occurred to me 2 videos back when they were watching a Bill Burr thing. I noticed they had a bit of a country sound and the dude on the right wore a Louisiana top…. I’d also listened to a bit of a Theo Von today who came across as an edgy, yet entertaining bloke to have in your entourage. I was going to suggest that these black dudes/African Americans/fellow chilled out seekers of some deeper meaning looked like a laid back crew who had open minds and a good positive energy that would be easy to appreciate in their midst. 🇦🇺🐾
As a black American woman that grew up overseas, I thought black american people knew this. I was shocked and saddened by how little black people actually knew/know about African history to include the Transatlantic and East African slave trade. It seems that many black Americans are stuck on an untrue and disempowering narrative.
African history is not taught in the states, a quick gloss over, probably having to do with slavery or European colonization. There will be considerable variation by region as to what topics are covered and emphasized.
@@evilsimeon this is true but the library and the internet are free. This is how I learned. Also, you would think that a demographic so fixed on a “pan-African/Afrocentric” narrative would be interested in learning about it…
@@Blakmagic88 I guess it’s where in the states we went to school. I was taught this in school. Sooo, I’m at a loss for words when others in this same time period from when I went to school (‘69-‘81) didn’t learn this. ✌🏻 PS: I’m white & grew up in the South. What is now called “the New South”. But I thought most also knew. Also, I have a feeling it may have been the teachers we had at the time…they didn’t sugarcoat stuff back then. 😊
Why is anyone surprised? Democrats run the universities and the public schools. They were always the racist party. Divide and conquer, any way they can. They created the color line, they created Jim Crowe. Lincoln was a Republican
This is indeed the type of education sorely missing in today's classrooms. I applaud you gentlemen for your willing to dig into the history of slavery. It's often portrayed as a tough subject to talk about but done with historical facts makes it easier to discuss. We need to learn from history and understand that history has lessons to teach.
Gents, white Slavic dude here. Here is a bit of history you might enjoy: one of the prevailing reasons labour unions were created in construction is because black folks built things better, cheaper and faster. A lot of that skill and ingenuity is still there gentlemen! As always it's been an experience seeing you discuss the world and your impressions of it ! Thanks for another great video
He's an American grifter. He should stick to economics. His interpretations of History are weak and politically biased. He loves to sell out his own people... Old Uncle Thomas Sowell. He almost gives Uncle Tim Scott and Uncle Clarence a run for their money ....
For sure, in place of critical race theory and story time with a drag queen. There's nothing wrong with a drag queen live and let live but shoving down our children's throats while they are supposed to be getting an education. With no parents there to answer their child's questions, we are supposed to accept that this side show in the learning environment is fit to introduce and explain and field questions correctly. Why are we shoving sex at the children anyway? Sexual preferences, fake science, 100s of genders. Let them be kids and get away from them. I think this is all a prelude to legalizing sex crimes on children as a sexual preference. mark my words on this.
If you haven't discovered them all I have joined about 20 podcasts by young black people because they are brilliant. I am a 67 year old white grandma who is so proud of all of them Racism is the assumption that blacks can't compete with whites because they aren't as smart and that is bull. These young men prove it. Bravo to mom and dad.
I wish that mofo would run for president. Or something where people can hear his words more. A bipartisan leader for us, could do SO MUCH for America and the world.
On ro he’ll a liar. Nobody ever sad there was slaves in other counties🙄! Bu tht has nor keen e to black Americans or the American slave trade t I o war ws over. Also less then 1 percent o black Slavs were slo/bought. 99 per of were kidnapped and forcibly taken. The video falsely implies tha slaves were bought as Paris jilly buisness a regimen beeen Africans countries/tribes and Whjte men. That is completely false. This entire video is misleading and revisionist propaganda to year downplay slavery. Owl has gotten criticized for his baltent uncle to ism nu serious but this is street him for him. Th claim to try and American slavery wasn’t based on race an had not to ditch anti-black racism is nonsense🙄! The other claim made by the man in this video that black tree there own and t e invite white people there to do business is no sense. to where the Jim Crow laws, segregation laws an discrimination thst followed it. Becuase the entire video is stupid. Tog;o downplay slavery blacks beucsde there was also slavery in other countries. Nobody ever said there wasn’t. The American slave trade and plantation industry however were black slaves. Euroepeons and Asians also previously enslaving there peo0le in other coutures prior has zero relevance.
In college I had to take American History (core requirement class). Day 1, I walk in and find a tall Ghanian man, in full Ghanian head-to-toe dresswear and hat, as my American History professor. He was a PhD level Historian. He was the first professor that ever gave me an education EXACTLY like the one shown in this video. And he told it from the West African perspective. I remember looking around at all of my class mates and, not surprisingly, many of classmates didn't believe the professor. Even though he was born and raised in West Africa, knew his history both personally and as a PhD academic! It was an interesting class. He even went into very great detail about some of the more frivolous reasons for selling slaves; some people were sold off just for a trade of trinkets and odd new inventions from the new world. By the end of the semester, the professor really blew my mind, he was incredibly knowledgeable on US History and he was very passionate about it as well. I think of him often.
You’re lucky. I had a handful of quality teachers but most were just going through the motions Our entire education system needs a rehabilitation. It’s run by teachers unions (which make bad teachers impossible to fire) and fails to teach students much of anything- let alone important things like civics and history.
@@joshuarosenblatt Isn't it infuriating? Rewind a few decades and Unions are a good thing, but now... Early 20th century Western Civilization: "Hey we have a problem -> Workers are getting exploited by greedy big business, CEO salaries are 20 to 40 times that of the median employee!" Act 1. Workers will now have an equal voice at the bargaining table, Unions to the rescue! Act 2. Unions are going great, the middle class is expanding as the people actually doing the labor are being rewarded in a more fair manner! Act 3. Unions become corrupt, business can't fire bad employees and CEO Salaries are now as high as 250 to 400 times the average employee, middle class is shrinking. The End.
Within the last 24 hours I’ve watched over eight or nine maybe 10+ videos of you guys and I am so proud of y’all. You guys are educating all of us and I want to thank you. As a native American, you guys are doing more for the people and for our country than any politician, or anyone else out there by bringing content like this that is truly educational and factual and I want to thank y’all. Keep up the good work. Also, as a native American, my tribe has raised me to be very racist and prejudice towards Black people. I just want you guys to know that the five of you are changing my mind, and opening my heart and I mean this with all sincerity, I love you for that, because not only are you making me a better person, but you are making me a better father to raise my child differently than what I was raised. I hope this message gets to y’all. You guys have touched me and I love what you are doing. Thank you for making me a better man and a better Christian. God bless all of you.
History teachers shud run class discussions like this in small groups. Have the kids watch a video, then film themselves discussing it, then present that video to the class. 10/10
Thomas Sowell was a self described Marxist, even after being a student of Milton Friedman. After working for the Department of Housing and Urban Development, he realized the government bureaucracy was not interested in assisting anyone with anything but rather growing the bureaucracy and securing their own job security. If the HUD “solved” problems, they would be out of business. This was a huge awakening for Thomas Sowell and was the beginning of his change. Loved the discussion, keep up the great work. You are more powerful and influential than you realize!
This! I've seen it too. It's about growing their own power and justifying legalized robbery thru taxation. Look at the past 50 years, the government grew and grew but people's lives overall are getting worse. They have run up huge debt that will burden us all on wars that enriched corporations and politicians and generations will be left with the fall out. Money to bail out crooked banks and fund dangerous bioweapon labs. And on and on. Look at the native Americans too. Live in abject poverty begging for crumbs from government for generations. The 'equity' they are banging on about now is in reality the equity of enslaving 99% of us equally -black, white, or whatever equally enslaved to the system and permanently.
You know its sad what human kind do to one another or have done i kind of knew the history about this tragic mentality of mankind but frankly i am tired of hearing about it we as a human race need to do better lets hope as a human race we get it right as a black man im going to live free regardless of our dark past
Amen to you Gary! The best “revenge” is a life well lived! Abraham Lincoln said, “most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be”. One correction on my part is that Dr. Sowell worked at the Department of Labor and not the HUD. My apologies!
I am a 43 year old straight white guy. And I just wanna thank you guys for being the example for EVERYONE, white and black alike to make a decision to learn more, set aside feelings, and bring us all a little closer together at the end of the day. Y’all seem like fun, intelligent dudes and I bet you are a blast to hang out with! Keep up the good work and God bless!
I thought it was just good to see young black men taking the truth and listening to it because a lot of us new from the start that African people enslaved their own people long before white people brought them and they forgot to mention it was Spanish people who were the first ones who went to Africa
@@modgirl7242 ITS GOOD TO SEE but the internet has been around for far too long to attribute this to wanting to learn however i don't feel bad about the fact they did it for the money and realised they actually enjoyed learning like this
The attitude toward listening to historical facts and discourse among peers makes this one of my favorite channels. Regardless of race, gender, religion, these are the conversations we need to be having. Humans have so much more to offer each than to fight about. You guys fucking rock.
I'm so sad that most aren't. If things don't change in the next election, Black America is doomed. It's so sad that Americans are spoon fed all the lies from their own government and media. People don't want to take the time to research anything. Black America has historically voted for those who keep them down. 😢
This is NOT the truth!!! Thomas Sowell LIED about the Alex Haley quote. You are doing a disservice to ALL our enslaved ancestors who suffered horrible treatment way worse than what was described in ROOTS.
Both republicans and Democrats are 2 sides of the same coin. Y'all both wierdos. That's why I stopped voting. Both democrats and republicans are full of shit. Especially the politicians.
They’re both political parties but currently conservatives are the ones that are rational compared to the democrats. Black conservatives are trying not to play the victim anymore as far as I can tell.
As a woman who happens to be white I am so encouraged by you young men for searching out truth and for not allowing the race baiters to define who you get to be...
This is beautiful. Im not talking about black guys being converted or blinded. Im just happy to see the conversation. The outcome matters less than the discussion. Whatever society decides as right and wrong, as long as the determination came from an intelligent and informed conversation, the country is moving in the right direction!
As an older black guy, I’m so thankful and happy to finally see more younger black guys talking sense, and spreading the knowledge. Keep up the great work, guys. All of us that agree with the video, and the words - don’t stay silent.
"And the truth shall set you free." This is why people (black and not) are systematically lied to about the history of slavery. Isn't this kind of like the definition of evil? Who is doing the lying and why?
As an older white dude of 56. I've been thinking about how ridiculous it is for people to even still be talkin about racism when that s*** died when I was a kid. But I'm glad to see everybody in this Young Generation educating themselves. We are all freaking beautiful. And so blessed to be here in America. Oh and by the way your vice-president Kamala Harris. I bet you didn't know that her great-great-grandfather was the largest Plantation slave owner in Jamaica. Look it up her great-great-grandfather owned more than 300 slaves. Funny how your media never tells you that. But it's true look it up and then think about it everybody on the Democrat Party voted in a person who knew was a direct descendant of a former slave owner. All while chanting white supremacist crap and slavery crap to get everybody excited and hating each other again. They failed to mention that the vice president is a direct descendant of slave owners
@bastiat No, see that's where we're wrong. Hate isn't acceptable, but it should NOT be legislated - UNLESS the speech advocating hate is calling for physical violence, and taking action against an individuals rights. We shouldn't arrest people - on any side of the aisle - for being racist. It's part of having free thought, and freedom of speech. But legislating against hatred is where humans start screwing things up - which leads us to problems we have now. If you don't want your child being exposed to LGBT agendas, you should be able to speak out about it; because you also KNOW the people in charge at the moment would LOVE to arrest and detain any trump supporter, or any anti-lbgt, pro-life person - because the same people labeled those things hate. Understand? ie. You make racism illegal (it never was, you just cant do racist THINGS), but then the people in power start calling EVERYTHING racist. Which is what is happening right now in our society. Do something against the 'agenda', and you're automatically an istaphobe. Freedom of speech secures things people WANT to hear AND DONT WANT TO HEAR. More important than that, is they have the RIGHT TO SAY THOSE THINGS. Again, as long as you're not advocating any physical violence and harm, it should be allowed. This protects you today, if the people in power are on your side, or against your side. It secures equality for all. Hate is acceptable, there are plenty of things I "hate". It is physical violence, segregation, or apartheid, that should be illegal, and legislated. And I'll remind folks - over the last couple years, there are colleges, middle schools and gradeschools that have began 'dorms for minorities only'. Elementary and grade school kids are being segregated into minorities, and whites. And even, I can't beleive I have to say this, 'graduations for minorities only'. THIS is racist. This is segregation. This is apartheid, and should be fixed. What would Dr. Martin Luther King say about these events? Exactly. He'd be pissed.
I would like to personally thank these five young men for being open-minded and taking the time to educate themselves with facts from a very wise man. These guys are five steps forward in my book. Again, thanks guys
They are Ragin Cajuns I think in college in Louisiana. I am white and older and so proud to see any young people educate themselves. I wish more young people would so this. So proud of them. They will go far in life and will be great contributors to society because they are educating themselves. You go guys as I am proud to watch your videos and watch you learn.
I love your videos. I love that you listen to the information given; think about what you’re hearing and then share and debate with each other. It’s refreshing to see young people thinking for themselves! It’s comforting to know that not all young people are brainwashed. God bless Mr. So well. What a brilliant man.
I really appreciate the banter, education, discussion and intellect with which you all address important issues affecting us as a nation as well as humanity. In every video I've watched of your discussions, I find the central theme of "you can accomplish anything you set your mind to" a much needed breath of fresh air. Someone once told me that I had taught them to never underestimate the power of the human spirit, and I would say those same words to you all today. You define that quote and encourage ALL people to do the same. I wish your videos could be made available in schools if for nothing else than to facilitate honest, even difficult conversations regarding controversial subjects. The manner in which you engage in these discussions are of equal educational merit as they are peaceful, well thought out, insightful, and respectful. Brilliant videos and encouraging and uplifting channel. Thank you.
I'm a white southern man in his sixties. I can guarantee you that I have seen things get better over my lifetime. I smiled when I finally saw teenagers both black and white just hanging out together at a friend of my teenage nephew's house; all were smiling and laughing, and hugging each other when they had to go. Finally they didn't see color, just other people they liked. It isn't done yet, but from your grandparents day it has come so very far. Bless you for the open minds to not lockstep the stuff being fed en-masse, and being intelligent enough to debate, and reach your own conclusions.
First we had inequality, then we moved toward equality, now too many people want to move back toward inequality, in the name of justice. One step forward, two steps back.
weve gotten lazy in our struggle though. corporations in america are passing laws to allow child labor restrictions to be removed, and slavery is spreading in africa like a wildfire all over again.
Definitely! Racism has been reduced to the point where we have blacks actually staging hate crimes! If there truly was widespread racism, it wouldn’t need to be manufactured. Any time someone tells you racism hasn’t gotten any better in the past 40 years - just walk away from them as they are a lost cause
I'm 52 white southern redneck hillbilly I only seen a few instances of racism growing up it was from both sides and black and white and also black and white together against Mexican people. I went in the military in 89 and racism of any type wasn't tolerated at that time. I honestly thought it was pretty much a dead issue except from KKKand Black Panther types the entire time I was in . When I got out I lived right next to MLK Ave in Vegas for few years never had any bad experience.Then moved back to NC in early 2000s In. Wake county. The fist day of school all 3 of my kids came home from 3 different schools talking about how many times they were called whiteboy or whitegirl by teachers and students .We were more than surprised and talked to the kids about it and told them not to hold it against any of the ones doing it and just try and get along then my son got off the bus white marks where he was choked by a young black boy for sitting in the wrong set as it was only for black kids.The next day I got a call from the school even before I had a chance to call the school and they wanted me to come in. To my surprise they asked me to come in ASAP when I got there I was meet by 3 administration people and the vice principal who proceeded to tell me how my son was suspended for a week even though he did nothing but stop the kid from choking him and they even admitted that he only defended his self and all witnesses and the driver had the same story.We as a family learned a big lesson that day .
We use the school system to teach everything. I believe subjects like this need to have conversations within families, houses of worship, and social groups. The media has an agenda to drive people into a prescribed belief.
Unfortunately, American education on the subject of słavery is abysmal, it leaves out way too much. Słavery across the globe and throughout time wasn’t because someone had a certain skín color and if those people weren’t there słavery wouldn’t exist. Yes, in North America for a time race was the excuse that was used, so was religion, but those were only the excuses used. Many people seemingly only want to díscuss North America or put more an emphasis on it saying it was far worse than anywhere else. So let’s clear up some things. we often hear people say 400 years but actually Błack people didn’t become the majority of słaves in Notth America till the mid 1700s. Which lasted until 1865, just over 100 years. Still horrific, still clearly an injustice and críme against humanity but certainly not an isolated event. Before that the majority of słaves in Ameríca were the índigenous tríbes/First Nations people. In fact 400 years really doesn’t even scratch the surface, słavery existed for tens of thousands of years, if not hundreds of thousands. Słaves and índentured servànts were used for labor and/or s3x. There are a lot of mísconceptions regarding índentured servantš, índentured servànts weren’t always treated better, nor did they always agree to be índentured servànts (that’s right there were iídentured servànts that were forced into servítude, just like słaves). Sometimes the contract holder would sell the contract of the índentured servànt to someone else without their consent, thereby extending the contract (so 20 years could become 40). Another thing they would do is førce the wømen to get pregnant, which would also extend their contracts and keep them pregnant till old age (by then owing more years, than they had years of life left and I’ll let you figure out how they førced them to get pregnant). How about słavery, so many people make arguments it was only horrifíc in Ameríca and that it wasn’t that bad here or there but is that true? Słavery as already mentioned existed for thousands and thousands of years, all across the globe. Chattel słavery did in fact also exist in Afríca and it wasn’t a kinder gentler form of słavery; unless you consider mass human sacrifíce and canníbalísm kinder and gentler. Słavery existed in Afríca well before Eurøpeans showed up and Afrícan rulers fought the Eurøpeans in order to keep it going. In the Middle East the słave market was huge, the słaves brought in were often castràted (so no, that wasn’t a kinder gentler form either). Słavery existed in Asia and Asía is still infamous for having sweatshops. The Vikíngs often raided Eurøpe and took słaves back with them. The wømen they took served the Viking men, both work and s3x. When the słave øwner díed, the wøman he had as a słave would often be gàng ràpéd by the men in the village and kīlled to serve the owner in the afterlife. Ancient Romans brutałły ensłaved other Europeans and people around the Mediterranean. In the Amerícas the Natíves enslaved others Natíves and also had human sacrifíce. The point is słavery was and is horrifíc, all over the world it’s horrifíc and has been for a very very long time (that’s not minimizing it for one group to say that, in fact it’s minimizing everywhere else to not recognize it was horrific all over). How about chattel slavery? Here is the thing, you can’t ensłave descendànts if there aren’t any. The Barbary słaves often had a much shorter lífe span and had no hope of procreatíon. Many díed chaíned in the ínterior of the ship sitting in their own excrèment covered in open wøunds or díed chaíned to a sínking ship that lost a battle. There was no fèmale companíonship, no livíng to an old age, no sunshíne, no høpe … Just the incredibly harsh realitíes of the shíp for the rest of their short míserable líves. In the Middle East the vast majoríty of słaves were castratèd and agian never had the opportuníty to reprøduce. Many of which didn’t even survíve being castrated. Does anyone really think that’s any “better”? Also, this idea many people have that chíldren of słaves were born free across the globe or słaves weren’t sold as property (except in Ameríca) is absurd. When people say that in North Ameríca it was wørse or Eurøpeans have the most to be błamed for (which is said a lot lately), that isn’t intellectually honest and is blatantly ígnoring the atrocitíes commítted around the globe. Yes, it was horrific in North America AND it was/is horrific across the globe throughout mankind’s history. When people blame only group of people over everyone else, it is in fact minimizing the atrocitíes committed everywhere else. Those people are doing precisely what they blame other people for doing (i.e., “minimizíng” the atrocitíes of słavery, except they are minimizing it around the entire world).
Do you guys realize black people asked for Jim crow laws? Back the black people had pride and wanted to build their own communities, this paved the way foe Jim crow law, the gave the people what they wanted, but never considered what they where asking for.
I am a descendant of Irish slaves brought to North America even before Africans were brought here, and Lebanese Christians enslaved by the Ottoman Empire in the TWENTIETH century. I spent nearly 20 years in sub-Saharan Africa where slavery still exists. Thomas Sowell one of the greatest minds of our time. A wise man will be made better for listening to him.
Irish were not looked at as property! The Irish could have children and their children weren't forced into servitude. Sick of people misrepresenting facts!
They were slaves They were brought over in chains and sold. Dig deeper there are several books about it and ship logs. Remember the Irish were the hated Catholics. Look up Elizabeth the first and Cromwell.
I'm Icelandic descendant of both slaves and masters, rapists and rape victims, murderers and the murdered. In the US I'm suddenly responsible for something dead white people did during times when we were colonized and dying of hunger. My dad was born in a sod hut without electricity at the edge of the livable world. Europe had a revolution because the common people were treated so badly. We're applying the values of today on totally different times and acting like we can pass moral judgment. I am truly sorry for the CURRENT state of things and am doing my best to change them. I am also sorry for the past but I can't do shit about that. I'm focusing on spreading love in the now.
@@Robert-rl7rd and the root Slav-/Slov- has many meanings i.e. Slava (*glory* in many Slavic languages if not actually all of them, *celebration of a patron Saint* in Serbian), Slovo (*letter* in Serbian, *goodbye* in Slovenian) etc. Also, Slavs being slaves to Avars and Vikings is actually still very unfathomable to me. Slavs are very temperamental and protective, so them actually succumbing to someone is just otherworldly, haha.
@@yourereadingmyusername Slaviti in Serbo-Croatian means to celebrate, so it's the same word for glory or celebration. The word slave does in fact come from the word Slav. In the Medieval Greek of the Byzantine Empire, Sklabos was both the word for Slavic people and for slaves. Just as the words servant and serf come from the Latin word servus, which could mean either a free or unfree person who served another. The Scythians raided the interior of Eastern Europe and traded slaves to the Greeks in the Classical Period, while Macedonia was occupied by the Ottoman Empire until the 1st Balkan War ended in 1913. Since slavery continued in Turkey until the early 20th century, one can glean that the history of Slavs being targets for slavery was nearly 3,000 years long. Slavery has a peculiar history in the Ottoman Empire, since the elite fighters of the Janissary corps were all raised as soldiers after being taken as slaves from Christian families, and the most intelligent boys were trained to be the empire's chief ministers and commanders. The cavalry were the Sipahis, who were assigned a fief called a timar, and all of the Dhimmis, non-Muslims, on that land were his property. This encouraged people to convert to Islam in order to gain legal rights, but also reduced the income of the Sipahis. Eventually the Janissaries became so influential, that the resulting in-fighting between free Muslims and Janissaries resulted in the Sultan himself becoming a sort of slave, confined to his palace to prevent succession crises or removal of the privileges and influence of the various classes.
Omg I just came across you guys. I cannot stop watching and I wish I was or could be in the same room with you for these conversations. This has been so much enlightening that it has given me chills n goose flesh!! God bless you and may the Creator provide you continued guidance, insight, and protection!! I genuinely love this banter!!!!
This is the conversation that needs to be happening! This is so encouraging and fascinating/educational to watch and listen to all of y'all discuss this.
Welcome to the light bulb effect. I have slaves in my ancestry....... They're Irish..... Thank you for looking into this issue deeper & having open minds to listen & process this.... Love you Thomas Sowell!!!!!! ❤
My Irish ancestors were the ones enslaved to Africa & to Australia. I love seeing people opening their minds to history as a whole. The only way we’ll eradicate racism is when people truly understand what slavery was actually about & understand that all people have been enslaved or done the enslaving throughout history.
Adults and children who were working class at that time in England and Scotland in cities worked pretty much all the time in crap conditions and nothing to show for it. Just notice how many in the U.S who have Irish ancestry were slaves . Eventhough slavery is bad. If you think about it there are sex slaves in the West , African sllaves for some Middle Eastern countries
My son and his bestie in kindergarten had no concept of racism. My son is mixed but can "pass" for White-ish. His friend is 100% Black. They didn't know they were "different" from one another... Until they went to school. The SCHOOLS "taught" them about slavery and racism. I remember the day when my son came home from school telling me that his friend "Andrew" could be his slave... I went weak in the knees and needed to grab something to hold on. My first response were tears that came immediately to my eyes, I had to turn away from my sweet boy so he would not see me trying to compose myself. I was crushed. That school has taught him and his friend they were different in terms of not the color of their skin, (they knew that of course,) but it what their "worth" was 100s of years ago. SOCIETY (and sadly, yes, our schools,) TEACHES us to be racist toward one another.
Sadly, you're right. They mostly attack elementary kids to indoctrinate their minds to their leftist, warped views. The Democrat party is also behind all of this to gain future votes. The concept here is called: INDOCTRINATION
Yet, still, education not ignorance is the best way to handle things....and that includes parenting. It is up to you to guide your child that people were wrong back then for believing it and instill in them that we are equal despite any differences we have, real and imagined. The school teaching history--so that we may not repeat it and we can learn from it--is doing the right thing. Sheltering your kid and shielding them from the realities of the past will ultimately do them more harm than good. Better he learns now and can grow and develop to despise the idea of inequality and love justice, kindness, etc (make these things a pillar of his being) than to never know and be unprepared when he has to face these harsh realities.
Much respect to y'all for educating yourselves with the wisdom of Dr. Thomas Sowell. As 51yo white man from Louisiana, Dr. Sowell has taught me alot about true history and how I should view the world. Dr. Sowell is an often overlooked gift to the world and his words could change the people of our if only they cared to listen. Much love and respect to y'all!! Keep making these videos and I, for one, will keep watching!!
Omg I love you guys! I love the message towards the end about how everyone has the same opportunities, regardless of skin color. Thank you guys for this video.
Teach this in schools. Destroy the false narrative being pushed. We need to band together to create a truly great world. Stop with hate from the past. We are in this together. It's time we stood shoulder to shoulder as People. We The People will move mountains. ✌❤ Edit: Thank you for this conversation and insight into your think tank. These are the conversations that need to be had in a healthy manner. They usually result in positive results with things being learned and people being understood. This is how progress is made. 👏
Never. The cavemen have destroyed our people took everything away from us they took our name, our land, our culture, our language, etc. makes sense why my people are so confused and lost. And picking up Europeans culture, philosophy, ideologies will never work
@@KevinGloverpost24 watch his videos or read any of his 30 books & you'll see. He's a man of conviction and is not swayed by anyone! He researches & forms his opinions on FACTS!!
Love you guys. Love your reactions yall be havin me dyin sometimes LOL. Keep findin more gems of wisdom like this to react to, this was really educational forreal.
You guys are so smart. I love watching y'all discuss the topic of the video. That tells me you really care about the issues -- not just to get likes or subs.
Also don't forget how many white people gave their lives to free black people in the civil war. I love your guys's conversations. I'm 66 years old and I've learned a lot watching you guys.
Lincoln didn't want to free slaves. He just knew the war would be lost if he didn't have slaves on his side. But he did know slavery was close to an end anyways.
Another good one is Mr. Luther King. He died to push his message of equality. Probably one of the best people to ever live in terms of societal movements/social change. So many people have given their lives to create societies where everyone can live together and pursue happiness for not only themselves, but each other.
@@Spadookie Lincoln did not like slavery. Lincoln could never have freed the slaves without the civil war. It was in the constitution from the outset (or the southern slave states would have never joined). The only way to make slavery illegal was to amend the constitution and to do that the slave states would have to vote for it and they weren't going to do that. In fact the Emancipation Proclamation didn't free the slaves in the North. Maryland, Deleware, Kentucky, and Missouri slavery was still legal as they had not joined the war against the Union and they had the right to keep slavery under the constitution. These states did change their laws in the 1864-1865 time frame to end it in the Union states. In the end the the South starting the civil war was the only way slavery was ended. Once they made war on the union they lost their right in the constitutional ammendment process. The union after the war as they let the Confederate states back in made it a requirement to abolish slavery in the admittance back into the union. Some areas like West VA in 1863 became states and were admitted into the union because they did that.
Thomas Sowell is the most influential man in my life. He is one of a kind! Mr. Sowell is the greatest man to ever touch my life without ever meeting him. His books have educated me about history more than any school or teacher has ever done. Mr. Sowell has taught me to never forget to” think” and remember the three questions to ask whenever in a debate with a person on the left. If you don’t know the three questions I would urge you to seek them out.
@@tom-fq5cf He already is among more than can be counted. Sowell and Hanson are my two personal heroes. Sowell will go down in history as being as, if not more, influential than Mises or Smith. And Hanson the same, only as Livy or Acton. Sowell may very well be _the_ GOAT.
I love what you guys are doing. Conversation is great. Most of the topics brought to you show are interesting like this one. Keep doing this. We have to do our research, schools don't teach you all we need and sometimes they trick young people...
I’m a 73 year old with Sicilian blood. Yes, we were used as slaves as well. Your videos are a real service to truth and brotherhood. Dr. Sowell is a true academic and one of my hero’s for truth.
Sowell is a conservative Republican MAGA Trumper in bed with Reagan and Clarence Thomas. Unfortunately he's one of those minority individuals who chooses to be on board with white washing the harm that occurred with slavery and with racism.
As being a middle aged Sicilian American I am glad to see this as we were enslaved in 711AD by the Moores. It is not about race it is a (the stronger will survive) weaker stronger issue by far.
I would also point out Italians coming to America were not considered white. Italians didn't look like Germans, French or Brits. The U.S. government actually created the Immigration Act of 1924 to limit the number of Italians who could enter the country. That is why you see larger Italian populations in Argentina, Brazil and Columbia than in the U.S. today. So all of this slavery talk in the U.S. ... has nothing to do with Italians since they did not even arrive in any noticeable numbers until the 1920s and were not welcomed when the did reach the U.S.
Love to see young men embarking on a journey of intellectual discovery and honesty that ventures outside of what they had been previously taught. Definitely not enough of this in today's world.
Seeing this group of young men taking the time to go on this journey is really a "feel good" moment for this White guy in East Texas. Yes, it is eye-opening but necessary to hear. I am knocking 60 on the door and grew up a military brat schooled by the DOD. We were taught this history, but I was shocked in college that nobody else had learned this but knew the "Roots" version. I knew I had to keep quiet about it because I knew that even mentioning it would have me labeled as a racist. I have also been a follower of Dr. Sowell for probably 30 years and have all of his books. He is a national treasure and I could listen to him speak for hours.
"That ventures outside of what they had been taught previously" - the only way its different is that it leaves even more information and context out than the standard American history lesson, which is already obviously abysmal.
Love how you guys talk things over. Equal opportunity - not equal outcomes. Like Michael sang, "you want to change the world, look at the man in the mirror."
Love your debates. Myself being a descendant of indentureship to the Caribbean, this topic is close to my heart. The weak will always be preyed upon. It’s only the laws or rather the enforcement of the laws that has tempered that action.
i think thats just a byproduct. we love to hate. we would sooner throw an innocent man in prison than to say we cant find a culprit, Bad news always gets more clicks than good news, false information will always spread farther than the correction of said information. Getting a majority to hate anything, will help get the support of the majority if you push hating said thing. Our society always pushes towards extremism, the most x type of person will get farthest in that social group.
Yep.. let’s just ignore the fact that a lot of white people literally can’t stop being racist and are having a collective meltdown that the population is changing and white people will be the minority within the next 50 years. Which is ramping up the racism. Let’s ignore that. Let’s ignore the fact that a old racist bastard just shot a young black man for KNOCKING ON HIS DOOR. Yep.
Fascinating commentary! There's a reason they keep Thomas Sowell out of the public education system... he is a national treasure that many know little of
As an old white man, I had a boss over me at Walmart that was black and an ex-lieutenant in the military. He was dignified, proud and stood straight as an arrow, and always commanded respect. I wish I could have been as respected as he was by all, and by me. When I was in the military, I had a woman who was over me and she was also a strong person, and though not friendly, she was respected. When I was younger, I had a black man teach me how to operate a piece of equipment and over the next few years as my friend he taught me much of how I would act all through my life, and he became the First Black firefighter in the city of Odessa, Texas.
@@ladeacarr4245 The people who run the system want us to hate each other, it is the only way they can keep control. Americans uniting is their biggest fear.
"Slavery wasn't born from racism, racisim was born from slavery." Such a keen observation. I would imagine in order to own a slave, you would rationalize something in your head to justify it. A lie no doubt, but perpetuated by a society that benefited from slavery that enabled and pushed the lie. Very enlightening to understand the origin of beliefs and even more helpful to put them in their proper place. Listening to you guys is super enlightening!
Could even be said, possibly more accurately, that racism was born from classism as slavery as an institution is built upon that. Either way racism is a by product of other underlying elements of the human experience and psyche not a root problem itself.
I do not need to rationalize about eating a hamburger. I do not think about a cow living its entire life in a small area and then being slaughtered so I can eat a hamburger. There is nothing wrong with eating a hamburger. In 50 or 100 years it might be different. People may look back at people who ate animals as being evil. Slave owners did not need to rationalize owning slaves, because there was nothing wrong with it. It had been going on for thousands of years. It was normal, just like eating a hamburger today.
@@Allah_the_molester This is a very poor understanding of sin. Something being accepted as normal doesn't do away with the knowledge that it's wrong, so rationalizations persist no matter how much wickedness is accepted. It happens with abortion, for example, but that's not only one example among many. All wickedness requires some kind of excuse to delude oneself out of the awareness of the image of YHWH.
@@blanktrigger8863 It is obvious that you are one of those people that apply today's views on the past to make judgements. You call slavory a sin, but even the Bible allowed for slavory. What it does do is set out rules for how slaves are to be treated. I imagine that in a hundred or so years, things we think are normal will be considered to be evil because technology and people's views will undergo many changes. It is hard to know what those changes will be, because we have no idea how the future will unfold. If I raise a cow for food, is it wrong? If I take the eggs from chickens to eat, is it wrong? If I use a horse to do my work, is it wrong? I can imagine that in the future it could be viewed as evil, but to me, it is not wrong, it is not a sin, it is something that is needed for survival. In the past, owning slaves was exactly the same thing. It was not something that was evil to the people that were involved. It went on for thousands of years, because people felt it was needed. I have no idea what your past is. I'm not sure if you are religious or what religion might interest you. I do not know if you are using a dictionary definition or sin or a biblical definition. Webster's dictionary defines sin as: a: an offense against religious or moral law b: an action that is or is felt to be highly reprehensibleit's a sin to waste food c: an often serious shortcoming : FAULT 2a: transgression of the law of God b: a vitiated state of human nature in which the self is estranged from God The KJV of the Bible states: Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. The verse covers both God's laws and man's laws, as long as man's laws are not trying to override God's laws. The Bible allows for slavery, so it does not violate God's laws. How those slaves were treated is what is important when it comes to deciding Biblical sin. The definition used by Webster seems to preclude it being a sin, too. Slave owners followed the law. It was the norm of the time. It was acceptable by society. There was no wickedness from the views of the people involved. What has changed is time, people's views, and technology. Now most sane people view slavery as evil, but when it was in common use, it was no different than using animals to do work, eating cows, or taking eggs from chickens. You are the one that is rationalizing to believe that slavery was wickedness in the past. Most other major religions allowed for slavery too. You brought up abortion to prove your point, but abortion would be a violation of God's laws, so clearly it is a sin, even if people feel it is normal. The laws that allow abortion would be against God's laws, so the laws themselves would be sinful.
I had the privilege of sharing emails with Mr Sowell years ago. I contacted him about a story he wrote and in which he encouraged feedback. I grew up in W Detroit in the 60' and 70's. As a white kid it was no problem. It was mixed about 50/50 then black/white. Everybody got along great. My bestie was Frank Mays..He is black and we must have spent the night on sleepovers every weekend. Both moms would come to the basement with treats like english muffin pizzas etc and yell down to go to bed at around 11. We never did hahaha..stayed up watching TV until the channels went off for the night. Thomas and I shared some emails..he is a great writer.
If you are in England there are services just for Minorities. Like the oldies lunch club, they send a funded bus for Black and Minority Elders. Your friend can get in the bus, but you are NOT allowed because you are white, so you are left behind to walk at 85 years? How do you feel? It happened to my dad. 😮😢
@@claire6795 - Similar stuff happens here all the time (constantly). It's called white liberal marxism/ socialism, critical race theory, affirmative action, "diversity, equity, and inclusion", and it's all Jewish Zionist Racism against Patriotic Libertarian white people (as is the scam defamation of antisemitism). African Slavery in the Americas was largely a European Jewish Banker/ Royal Family institution, and most of the ship owners, and slave traders were Jewish. People like Aaron Lopez among many others. They paid other people to do the actual work of picking up and importing slaves. Political Talmudic Zionist Marxism, is the only real and dangerous racism in the entire world, because it seeks to enslave all of us, Jewish or not. All this divide and conquer nonsense and reverse racism against Patriotic White Americans/ Illegal Immigration, Wars and Refugees, is literally designed to destroy this nation in order to takeover and control the entire world. We interrupted their plans at the time of the American Declaration of Independence and Revolution. So they created the Bavarian Illuminati on May 1st, 1776, just two months prior knowing that they would have to go through America to realize the Millenias old Pharisaical Talmudic Zionist Rabbinical Goals as God's Chosen Race. My family is Jewish (one side). My Great Grandmother was a prisoner of (and survivor of) Auschwitz. England was taken over long ago, and Germany, France, the USA, Crown Nations, the entire Western World. If people don't wake up soon, we will again be totally enslaved. First Financially and from Debt, and ultimately with Robotics, Artificial Intelligence, Machine Learning, a Single Global Digital Currency, and eventually everyone Microchipped with all their data, personal information, identification, and banking information on the chip. This isn't fiction. It's fact.
Sowell is amazing. If he were 30 years younger, Id say - run for office. Very smart man. Many years ago he wrote Basic Economics. Took me 6 months to get through it because you have think through evrything hes saying. One of the most important books Ive ever read.
Keep your copy, if it’s possible. I keep things like this, because these schools and universities have lost their minds. In my library, I have a copy of BAD BLOOD, which is a book that reports on the Tuskegee Experiment-which was still being run up until the 1970s.
@@ritarevell7195 Collect ebooks and share them via torrenting, for those that are techy as well. Physical books are equally important. But they're hard to proliferate for us as individuals. Digital copies can be spread like a virus, which really helps to reduce censorship.
@@seanld444 well I have only found this one example of Bad Blood. None in digital form, and only one other physical copy, I would say this was about 30 years ago when I found this copy and it was used at that time.
As a Irish woman there were thousands of Irish slaves when England took over Ireland they murdered tortured us starved us and took any dignity we had a man by the name of Cromwell murdered thousands and sold thousands of us into slavery they also used the title indentured to send us to America. Australia and any where they could use us my mother when she was a young married woman my father and mother went to Wales to find work and they struggled to get a place to live the had signs up no blacks no Irish no dogs slavery was always a thing you said it best we are all one people thank you god bless
White Jamaican here. My family are of Irish heritage back to when Cromwell sent his men over to Ireland. Sent some of the men in my family back then to work with the African slaves in the Caribbean and my dad’s side have been there since. I was born and raised in Jamaica to a white Jamaican man of Irish descent and a Colombian mother. I’ve recently just moved to Dublin for university and loving life in Ireland. It’s so strange as I’ve only been here since September but it feels like home. ☘️
That is quiet true of the vikings they did indeed rape and murder and took slaves but not on the scale of the British who were also not so kind to the poor in there own country but they were not being inslaved in there thousands and the seed of hatred wasnt bestowed on to them as it was to the Irish they went as far as to describe us as less than human they measured our heads and drew as monkeys or cave like people it is fact but we are all people and I thank god for the fact we all are here today and we are all human we are all sons and daughters of god
@@stevencoates3382 today his name is still the most hated name in Ireland with good reason people talk about the potato famine as if it was our only source of food it was the cheapest food source we had and the blithe as it was known not only affected the Irish it affected most of Europe the difference was there leaders acted on it and provided there people with grain by the time it had gotten so bad in Ireland it was to late they British government whole handily let the Irish starve black 47 as it is still known in Ireland as the worst year for us hit and by then half our population was gone and still to this day it hasn’t recovered the famine ships left our shores the lucky ones the ones who could barely afford the fares left knowing they would never see Ireland again there families there villages there loved ones and most died on those coffin ships I would like to thank a nation of people who themselves were only after slightly recovering from the trail of tears the Choctaw nation who heard of irelands plight and send money to us in a time who saved many a life thank you we will never forget you and your part of our hearts forever
White male here living in Japan for the past 17 years. I thought that this was an excellent discussion. You all made some good points. It's stuff like this that gives me hope for the next generation because you guys are going to be able to accomplish things that my generation never could when it comes to topics like this.
I'm a 62-year-old white man born and raised in the deep south, and I absolutely love watching you guys do these videos! I love the way y'all talk it out and do critical thinking instead of making comments based on your "feelings". I'm so glad y'all discovered Dr. Sowell. Bravo guys, keep it up!
Peer review is very important. Peer review is how we know which Dr's to listen to and which to ignore. Over 99 percent of biologists, geologists and climatologists all agree that humans cause the earths temperature to rise. Less than 1 percent of biologists disagree and think humans are not a problem. I'm gonna go with the 99 percent. Dr Sowell is not respected, believed or trusted by other Drs in the same subject. Check his peer reviews. 99 percent of economists think racism is an obvious problem. Less than 1 percent of economists dont think racism is a problem. Im gonna go with the 99 percent. Its shocking to see how easy racist, right wing propaganda can fool so many people. The idea that racism isnt a problem is insane. No theres no point arguing with me. Its not me you are arguing with. GO CHECK HIS PEER REVIEWS. Its not my opinion that Sowell is a fool. Its all the other academics opinion. If your about to say how wrong i am then you best be ready to disagree with almost every economist in America. No other respected academic agrees with him. Sowell is obviously wrong. You can tell he is wrong by the looking at prison stats. Or school stats. Or health stats. Or police stats. Or housing stats. Or business stats. Or welfare stats. This truly is such a dumb argument. On one side you have Jackie Robinson, Martin Luthar King, Mohammed Alli, Malcolm X, Reverent Jessie Jackson, Thurgood Marshall, Rosa Parks, Barrack Obama and Colin Kaepernick. Who all say racism has been and is a big problem. On the other side you have Sowell saying no its not racism thats a problem. It what universe is this even a debate. race riots in 1935, 1966, 1992, 2020. Race riots all over america. but yet this old timer says theres no problem with racism in america. Its absolute madness. You might as well try to convince me that up is down and north is south. Now follows some of Sowells own words and opinons. Sowell assessed President George W. Bush as "a mixed bag" but "an honorable man." Two weeks before the 2016 presidential election, Sowell recommended voters to vote for Trump over Hillary Clinton. In 2018, when asked on his thoughts of Trump's presidency, Sowell replied, "I think he's better than the previous president."[17] During interviews in 2019, Sowell defended Trump against charges of racism. Sowell "Barrack Obama was the worst president in the history of america". ITS ALMOST AS IF SOWELL HAS SOME SORT OF RIGHT WING AGENDA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HES A RACIST LIAR. STOP BELIEVING HIM!!!!
It is heartening, isn't it? I used to listen to Sowell and William when they guest hosted Rush's radio show. I didn't even know they were black until they said they were on air. Always looked forward to hearing their brilliance.
To be fair, it’s almost all intellectually bias off their feelings. This would be all NEW information to them and it may very well drive an emotional based response. A few of them were left speechless at times because the realization hit that a large portion of history (objectively, politically centered bias taught history) was left out of what they’ve been spoon fed by the the state their entire lives. There’s a lot of nuance to be broken up and dismantled mentally speaking. 5th generational ware fare involves dividing the social structure through in-fighting. The Soviets studied it through their term and saw the rise and fall in effect. It only takes a few generations of propaganda to push a revolution and it generally starts with using the emotions of the marginalized to garner leeway. Even if we’re looking at this through a racial standpoint, this was a tactic that whites used against whites. It was perfected over the years and specifically highlighted on grapes and political issues to raise social awareness and power structure. Keep in mind that the Nazis convinced an entire nation that it was the Jews that were at fault for all of their problems. They didn’t just come out of nowhere. Social influence and propaganda goes along way, and the point that the right makes is that historically speaking, they always start with the basic fundamentals of freedoms. The freedom to self preservation (staying strapped and armed) to freedom of speech. Those are the two main things at the moment being attacked fundamentally speaking in our country’s culture. The fact of the matter is, we are technically in a cultural war with ourselves. It may not seem that is that big of a deal, because bloodshed isn’t was being sacrificed at the moment, but politics, run downstream from culture and politics initiate literal Civil War. Remember, this win Texas beefs with California over some BS that we see as insequential, like two parents splitting up, and the mother running off to California, and grooming their boy to transition into a girl. Does the dad have any say on that dynamic? He does in his state, but the problem lies when she bounces to California for protection. California Macy that is kidnapping and since the child’s livelihood (future reproductive organs) are at stake that playing to this child’s future will being… is the father just f*cked and has no saying in his child’s future? There’s a lot of gray area that’s coming more to light, that the more is normalized will further the issue into a snowball effect. At some point, the states will get involved, because they are responsible for their people and as you know, the states are in agreements with one another with fundamental livelihoods. All in all it’s a perfect concoction for Civil War. It’s only going to take one storyline and media following.
@@kyleblankenship6183 You make some valid points, yet your writing composition is subpar. If you are trying to convince don't use: To be fair, A few of them, There’s a lot of nuance, Keep in mind, There’s a lot of gray area, At some point, All in all.
You men facilitate a valuable platform for many of us both inside & out of the Black communities. I’m a 75 yr old who voted Democrat for 50yrs because I admired President Kennedy & his brother Robert when I was a young teen. If I knew what I’ve learned from podcasts like yours and a few others I would have been paying a lot more attention to whom and for what what I placed my votes. Keep up the great work gentlemen! You make learning fun. 🎉
Red is not perfect by any means… but blue is batshit crazy and continually pushes division. I just have a hard time fathoming how someone could vote for a candidate without researching all of their platform and positions.
@benjaminhunt8307 Please don’t fall for the nonsense perpetuated by Thomas Sowell. Please research the works of W E Dubois Martin Luther King Thurgood Marshall Paul Robeson and many many others who fought against the systemic oppression and racism that embodied this country for 400 years. Thomas Sowell is the black apologist for the systemic racism that has plagued this country for hundreds of years.
Excellent historical information! Love the debate and discussion! EDUCATION is the key! This should be taught starting in elementary schools. I was educated in the 60’’s and 70’s and we were lied to!! I’m so fortunate to have “freed my mind” and educated myself through black writers and cultural diversity! I’m a 66 year old white woman who’s BEST friend since 1972 is black, my sistah, and her well educated parents who broke ceilings taught me so much! PTTP, right on. Going to watch more with you now. ☮️😘✊
Love you are all willing to listen to the truth. Keep these wonderful videos coming as this could educate and bring us all together with compassion and understanding.🤔❤️
I like all of them, but Brandon definitely has a curious mind and I agree. He doesn't get all of his facts straight, but that's to be expected at his age. You can only retain so much information going down the rabbit hole, but he's definitely thirsty for knowledge and does a great job articulating his thoughts. He'll be a great Dad one day.
I love watching people excited and engaged in thoughtful open discussion- impassioned young people with the fortitude to fully examine together what they think they know and believe are going to make the positive progress we need in the world.
The guy in the back is a libtard though. Missed the point several times. The point about deceases was not to compare it with slavery, was to show that its illogical to think european people were invading africa and enslaving people at that time, since it was literally impossible due to weather and deceases. That implies the slaves were brought by africans themselves and sold at the coastline.....not conquered directly by the Europeans. African people enslaved its own people first.
This is a great video! I’m a 59 year old white woman, and I hate to hear people my age and older put down young people. These guys are great! They’re thoughtful, intelligent and willing to learn. What more could you ask for? I love seeing young people figuring out life! There are more of these kind of young people than there are of the bad ones. But only the bad ones make the news. So older, lazy people assume ALL young people are like the ones on the news! Love you guys! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
*"Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave."*
- Frederick Douglass
Brilliant quote
A man can be enslaved but if in his mind he isn't a slave he isnt.
@@williamgullett5911 In his mind he may not be but that doesn't change the reality that he is. He just doesn't perceive himself as enslaved.
@@jamstagerable True. He is a slave to everyone else but not to himself.
Fredrick Douglas was freaking amazing!!! His whole story is fantastic and his attitude and reflections on our country and constitution are so insightful.
As a black woman conservative, this is so encouraging!! I was red pilled about 2 years ago. You guys are awesome just for listening.
Love it welcome to the freedom loving club!
If you don’t mind me asking how were you redpilled?
I was also red-pilled about two years ago. My religious beliefs were the reason behind my eyes being opened and because of this, I started really listening. My entire world view has changed by the grace of God.
I am failing to see what any of that information changes with conservatism or how anyone was red pilled. Because Backs own slaves the racial system built u p inthe US was never wrong? The institution in the US with laws and force of government were white and Blacks didn;t even get to vote. It changes almost nothing.
Welcome welcome 😀
I was taught this in school as early as 8/9 in Scotland. We were taught about the Atlantic slave trade, African slave traders, the Barbary slave trade and the enslavement if Europeans buy the ottomans, Persians and north Africans, Vikings, Norman's and Romans. How adults in 2023 still don't understand what actually happened is rather alarming. It's no wonder racism is so rampant when people simply aren't educated.
Of course every country or nationality had slaves, but the inhumane way Europeans treated the African man woman and child was the true act of the devil. Can’t be compared, the white man took evilness to another level, and by the way young guys don’t get to far over your heads and think you’re playing on an equal playing field, because you’re not, we as black people don’t have much power at all because we don’t own much, believe it or not that horrifying murder on black Wall Street itself still has a negative impact on us. Guys y’all alright but trust me the impact of slavery is still here and still happening today, I’m so many ways.
My generation was only taught that white people brought slaves to the U.S. from Africa in big boats. That's it. nothing about how Africans themselves gathered the slaves for sale, etc
Sowell seeks to try and diminish slavery at every turn he was a token MLK would have called him an Uncle Tom.
Yes.
What does racism in America have to do with the fact that they were slaves in history?
I am a 64-year-old white conservative woman. I have 3 adult sons. I am so enjoying your show since I happened to come across it days ago. All of the white people and everyone I know only want the best for black people. The fact that you guys don’t know this history shows how poor our school system is. The teachers unions need to be abolished and our schools need to be improved so they are taught actual history. I’m going to keep watching you guys as you become awake to reality that was kept from you.
Have you noticed not much has really changed since 1865? That’s because Systemic Racism has never been dismantled
Public Education needs to be ban.
We need to go back to our roots that education is a private matter.
Even the great 1500s Martin Luther stated government should never be in charge of education.
Your nuts if you think white people want the best for Black people. Most whites want to sweep the anti balck history and its outcome under the rug so they can carry on owning 99/9% of the wealth and power in this country.
Thomas Sowell was born poor, and fatherless, in South Carolina. He grew up in Harlem during the Great Depression, and rose to become a widely respected economist, professor, lecturer and author. An inspiration and role model for everyone, of every color.
@xchiro1818
Thomas Sowell perpetuates nonsense. Please do more research and follow the works W E Dubois Thurgood Marshall Paul Robeson Martin Luther King Ida B Wells and many many others who fought against the status quo in this country in order to improve the lives of black Americans. Thomas Sowell is the black apologist for the systemic oppression and racism that has plagued this country for over 400 years.
If he was si smart...no Republican administration ever ask for his genius to be applied on any policy 😊
@@oscarwarren469 imagine bringing politics into this, when the liberal party was the one fighting to keep slavery initally
Conservative billionaire book publisher helped Sowell become rich. Black people DON'T RISE UNLESS IT IS TO THE BENEFIT OF WHITE PEOPLE.
Indeed, an inspiration to any and all “colors,” I’d say an inspiration to mankind.
I have a black nephew through marrying my niece. He has been working really hard to break the chain of divorce etc in his family. He is working diligently to complete journeyman license in electrical trade. His family tells him he is just trying to be white. That is ridiculous. As his white uncle I am so proud of him and has nothing to do with race. He is caring and providing for his wife and two daughters.
When your stigmatized for competence and work ethic...lol
I don’t get this attempted shaming of learning a well respected trade. Let’s posit that he would be doing something typically AfrA as an occupation. What would that be. I’m totally open minded on this and willing to listen. Would they be envious or jealous. I just don’t know.
@@presspound7358 I am not sure myself as common sense would tell us it should not even be an issue. I believe it is a by product of all the "race baiting" going on. BLM has proven to be a capital venture and promoter of this and yet they still receive accolades from the uneducated public.
"He is caring and providing for his wife and two daughters."
One of the most important things he should do.
This is a HUGE thing that many black people go through and it does not get talked about enough. Imagine telling a young black man that him working hard and making money and providing for his family makes him white. What does that make black people? It sickens me to my stomach, and many black people tell this same story over and over. When will it stop?
Love to see young minds waking up ,expanding
The “1619 Project” neglects to mention that the slave ship White Lion had a black slave owner
As an 'Old White Man' (I hate labels) from Detroit, I am heartened by all of you gentlemens' words and behavior. You are open-minded, open to debate, and not afraid to change your opinion based on new facts.
Love
If you hate labels why label yourself 😂 Seriously though, I agree. A curious mind is a knowledgeable one, and to distance themselves from societal norms and have these discussions, will empower and enlighten them in so many ways.
As a middle aged Greek man from Detroit I am happy to see another commenter from Detroit
@@topspot4834 Because 2/3s of interpersonal communication is nonverbal. We have to ammend our words in such a way that the reader can understand the subtext.
Woot. Gen X. Born and half raised in Detroit (summers at Grandmas and half of 5th and 6th grade in the D) yet I also lived in the suburbs, the country and a small town, then as an adult mostly lived in Flint.
Absolutely Love The Conversations, open debates And Yes the ability to change opinions.
More of this.
I think Thomas Sowell is one of the most inspiring, wise, balanced, profound thinkers of our time.
He's a Taskmaster!!! Exodus 1:11
[11]Therefore they did set over them taskmasters to afflict them with their burdens. And they built for Pharaoh treasure cities, Pithom and Raamses.
I agree. It still dumbfounds me when I've watched interviews where Sowell describes how he used to be a freaking marxist; before he had to confront what those ideas meant while working in the gov't, then pulled himself out of it. But I used to be a huge liberal/progressive so we all are capable of escaping ignorance if we choose to. :)
i think he's full of nonsense.
@@ernestsmothers8355 and you will remain stuck on the plantation
@@chess1458 you mean like Thomas Sowell?
I'm so excited and amazed that my people are learning the truth about Slavery and how it started and ended. American school system have taught us the history they wanted us to know, and NOT the truth. I love that the truth is being outted. The truth shall set u free. Knowledge is power. ❤
i’m an old white lady and watch your channel. i love you guys! thank you for your openness.
THANK YOU!! As a non-American it has frustrated me immensely that black Americans believe they have ownership over the story of slavery, when history from the beginning of time shows differently. Thank you for being willing to learn a different perspective.
It's white Americans that tell the story..
It was the "type" of slavery, chattel and the continued enslavement of a particulae ethnic group.
@@thorssthrnbtrfly8138 yes, because it was easier to go to Africa and enslave tribal people who were still enslaving each other than fight an entire militaristic battle with guns against developed societies
@@thorssthrnbtrfly8138 there's still a black slave trade today. Black people enslaving black people. TODAY. You're pretending that there was a different type of slavery in the US than other places. There wasn't and it's ridiculous to pretend. You're believing that because you want to think slavery here was worse than anywhere else. It wasn't.
Just like the j.e.wish people have taken ownership of genocide.
A great man once said: “It is much easier to fool a person, then to convince a person they have been fooled” Tennessee Williams
So true to the point it should be one of the laws of physics or something _😅_
Mark Twain
As a white British man who has served in the royal navy I believe I could have contributed a good amount to the discussion.... the traditions and customs of the RN make sure that the history is kept alive, usually by a ceremony to commemorate a significant battle or event, every ceremony is an opportunity to learn what happened. The west Africa squadron patrolled the coast searching for slave traders from any country, even if they hadn't stopped slavery. The RN had " articles of war" issued by the king and government to stop and search all ships and free any slaves ( having even just one slave meant the ship and everything on board was confiscated) for which a bonus was paid for every slave freed.The West Africa squadron would destroy any prison forts built on the shoreline to hold the slaves ready for shipping when the transport ships came in..
This went on for around 50 years and cost 20,000 lives, some to illness and the rest in battle when some tried to fight or had an escort of a military or well armed ship or ships..... the RN would regularly go up against larger numbers ( especially Spanish) ship's because the Spanish had a weakness that limited their rate of fire and were not as well trained.... the weakness was the large amount of cannons on board ( which looked pretty intimidating) that out matched the RN gunners, but they were different bores ( took different sizes of cannon balls) but the RN had the same cannon balls, so even during fast and extreme manoeuvres that could send balls rolling over the deck every one could be used anywhere, but the Spanish had to check every one every time..... that's the end of the lesson today 😂
What does that have to do with the 89+ years of slavery and 100+ years of anti black discrimination ,segreagtion and violence in the US?
Much love to you guys for spreading truth. ❤ White UK man, known this stuff about ten years but noone wants to talk about it.
If more people were as open minded as you guys..this country would be in a much better place
Very True, The only thing i disagreed on is The jail was create to hold Back Black people, when in Fact there was also white men Robbing Trains & Banks they also went to jail
in the 1800's the Wanted posters were for mostly white men.
The world in general would be a better place
You can tell that they have really good parents.
Right? Heck I would love to be there freinds
@@jakk2631 lol… the exact same thought occurred to me 2 videos back when they were watching a Bill Burr thing.
I noticed they had a bit of a country sound and the dude on the right wore a Louisiana top…. I’d also listened to a bit of a Theo Von today who came across as an edgy, yet entertaining bloke to have in your entourage.
I was going to suggest that these black dudes/African Americans/fellow chilled out seekers of some deeper meaning looked like a laid back crew who had open minds and a good positive energy that would be easy to appreciate in their midst. 🇦🇺🐾
As a black American woman that grew up overseas, I thought black american people knew this. I was shocked and saddened by how little black people actually knew/know about African history to include the Transatlantic and East African slave trade. It seems that many black Americans are stuck on an untrue and disempowering narrative.
African history is not taught in the states, a quick gloss over, probably having to do with slavery or European colonization. There will be considerable variation by region as to what topics are covered and emphasized.
@@evilsimeon this is true but the library and the internet are free. This is how I learned. Also, you would think that a demographic so fixed on a “pan-African/Afrocentric” narrative would be interested in learning about it…
@@Blakmagic88 I guess it’s where in the states we went to school. I was taught this in school. Sooo, I’m at a loss for words when others in this same time period from when I went to school (‘69-‘81) didn’t learn this. ✌🏻
PS: I’m white & grew up in the South. What is now called “the New South”. But I thought most also knew. Also, I have a feeling it may have been the teachers we had at the time…they didn’t sugarcoat stuff back then. 😊
Why is anyone surprised? Democrats run the universities and the public schools. They were always the racist party. Divide and conquer, any way they can. They created the color line, they created Jim Crowe. Lincoln was a Republican
They’re still enslaved by democrats, and their lack of knowledge of the truth
This is indeed the type of education sorely missing in today's classrooms. I applaud you gentlemen for your willing to dig into the history of slavery. It's often portrayed as a tough subject to talk about but done with historical facts makes it easier to discuss. We need to learn from history and understand that history has lessons to teach.
Gents, white Slavic dude here. Here is a bit of history you might enjoy: one of the prevailing reasons labour unions were created in construction is because black folks built things better, cheaper and faster. A lot of that skill and ingenuity is still there gentlemen! As always it's been an experience seeing you discuss the world and your impressions of it ! Thanks for another great video
This is the definition of "leveling up". Thomas Sowell is an American Legend!
I can almost hear the "gained 100exp points! leveled up!" sounds :D
He's an American grifter. He should stick to economics. His interpretations of History are weak and politically biased. He loves to sell out his own people... Old Uncle Thomas Sowell. He almost gives Uncle Tim Scott and Uncle Clarence a run for their money ....
Dr Thomas Sowell is a national treasure and should be required reading in all schools!!!!!
BOOM! We have a winner.
💯💯💯
For sure, in place of critical race theory and story time with a drag queen. There's nothing wrong with a drag queen live and let live but shoving down our children's throats while they are supposed to be getting an education. With no parents there to answer their child's questions, we are supposed to accept that this side show in the learning environment is fit to introduce and explain and field questions correctly. Why are we shoving sex at the children anyway? Sexual preferences, fake science, 100s of genders. Let them be kids and get away from them. I think this is all a prelude to legalizing sex crimes on children as a sexual preference. mark my words on this.
Agreed. Sadly I think he may be a lost voice of our time. He is truly amazing.
I might start collecting books if I can.
You young men honestly give me hope. Its very refreshing to see open and honest conversation & a willingness to learn
Why because you didn't think they were capable of it?
If you haven't discovered them all I have joined about 20 podcasts by young black people because they are brilliant. I am a 67 year old white grandma who is so proud of all of them Racism is the assumption that blacks can't compete with whites because they aren't as smart and that is bull. These young men prove it. Bravo to mom and dad.
I love Thomas Sowell, i have every book he wrote..
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Thomas Sowell deserves serious respect. He is one hell of a dude.
One of America's greatest minds.
I wish that mofo would run for president. Or something where people can hear his words more. A bipartisan leader for us, could do SO MUCH for America and the world.
On ro he’ll a liar. Nobody ever sad there was slaves in other counties🙄! Bu tht has nor keen e to black Americans or the American slave trade t I o war ws over. Also less then 1 percent o black Slavs were slo/bought. 99 per of were kidnapped and forcibly taken. The video falsely implies tha slaves were bought as Paris jilly buisness a regimen beeen Africans countries/tribes and Whjte men. That is completely false. This entire video is misleading and revisionist propaganda to year downplay slavery. Owl has gotten criticized for his baltent uncle to ism nu serious but this is street him for him. Th claim to try and American slavery wasn’t based on race an had not to ditch anti-black racism is nonsense🙄! The other claim made by the man in this video that black tree there own and t e invite white people there to do business is no sense. to where the Jim Crow laws, segregation laws an discrimination thst followed it. Becuase the entire video is stupid. Tog;o downplay slavery blacks beucsde there was also slavery in other countries. Nobody ever said there wasn’t. The American slave trade and plantation industry however were black slaves. Euroepeons and Asians also previously enslaving there peo0le in other coutures prior has zero relevance.
Maybe, if he says that America owes African-Americans an apology for Slavery happening in a free country
In college I had to take American History (core requirement class). Day 1, I walk in and find a tall Ghanian man, in full Ghanian head-to-toe dresswear and hat, as my American History professor. He was a PhD level Historian. He was the first professor that ever gave me an education EXACTLY like the one shown in this video. And he told it from the West African perspective. I remember looking around at all of my class mates and, not surprisingly, many of classmates didn't believe the professor. Even though he was born and raised in West Africa, knew his history both personally and as a PhD academic! It was an interesting class. He even went into very great detail about some of the more frivolous reasons for selling slaves; some people were sold off just for a trade of trinkets and odd new inventions from the new world.
By the end of the semester, the professor really blew my mind, he was incredibly knowledgeable on US History and he was very passionate about it as well. I think of him often.
We need more teachers like that..
A class truly worth the tuition. I would have enjoyed that class!
You’re lucky. I had a handful of quality teachers but most were just going through the motions
Our entire education system needs a rehabilitation. It’s run by teachers unions (which make bad teachers impossible to fire) and fails to teach students much of anything- let alone important things like civics and history.
@@joshuarosenblatt Isn't it infuriating?
Rewind a few decades and Unions are a good thing, but now...
Early 20th century Western Civilization: "Hey we have a problem -> Workers are getting exploited by greedy big business, CEO salaries are 20 to 40 times that of the median employee!"
Act 1. Workers will now have an equal voice at the bargaining table, Unions to the rescue!
Act 2. Unions are going great, the middle class is expanding as the people actually doing the labor are being rewarded in a more fair manner!
Act 3. Unions become corrupt, business can't fire bad employees and CEO Salaries are now as high as 250 to 400 times the average employee, middle class is shrinking.
The End.
@@joshuarosenblatt unions aren’t all bad. They give people a voice. There is a rightful place for them here.
Within the last 24 hours I’ve watched over eight or nine maybe 10+ videos of you guys and I am so proud of y’all. You guys are educating all of us and I want to thank you. As a native American, you guys are doing more for the people and for our country than any politician, or anyone else out there by bringing content like this that is truly educational and factual and I want to thank y’all. Keep up the good work. Also, as a native American, my tribe has raised me to be very racist and prejudice towards Black people. I just want you guys to know that the five of you are changing my mind, and opening my heart and I mean this with all sincerity, I love you for that, because not only are you making me a better person, but you are making me a better father to raise my child differently than what I was raised. I hope this message gets to y’all. You guys have touched me and I love what you are doing. Thank you for making me a better man and a better Christian. God bless all of you.
Thank you for sharing your honesty and wisdom. 🙏🏼🕊️
History teachers shud run class discussions like this in small groups. Have the kids watch a video, then film themselves discussing it, then present that video to the class. 10/10
Thomas Sowell was a self described Marxist, even after being a student of Milton Friedman. After working for the Department of Housing and Urban Development, he realized the government bureaucracy was not interested in assisting anyone with anything but rather growing the bureaucracy and securing their own job security. If the HUD “solved” problems, they would be out of business. This was a huge awakening for Thomas Sowell and was the beginning of his change. Loved the discussion, keep up the great work. You are more powerful and influential than you realize!
This! I've seen it too. It's about growing their own power and justifying legalized robbery thru taxation. Look at the past 50 years, the government grew and grew but people's lives overall are getting worse. They have run up huge debt that will burden us all on wars that enriched corporations and politicians and generations will be left with the fall out. Money to bail out crooked banks and fund dangerous bioweapon labs. And on and on. Look at the native Americans too. Live in abject poverty begging for crumbs from government for generations. The 'equity' they are banging on about now is in reality the equity of enslaving 99% of us equally -black, white, or whatever equally enslaved to the system and permanently.
You know its sad what human kind do to one another or have done i kind of knew the history about this tragic mentality of mankind but frankly i am tired of hearing about it we as a human race need to do better lets hope as a human race we get it right as a black man im going to live free regardless of our dark past
Love the history.
Marxist ushered in racism is AMERICA
Amen to you Gary! The best “revenge” is a life well lived! Abraham Lincoln said, “most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be”. One correction on my part is that Dr. Sowell worked at the Department of Labor and not the HUD. My apologies!
I am a 43 year old straight white guy. And I just wanna thank you guys for being the example for EVERYONE, white and black alike to make a decision to learn more, set aside feelings, and bring us all a little closer together at the end of the day. Y’all seem like fun, intelligent dudes and I bet you are a blast to hang out with! Keep up the good work and God bless!
I'd love to know you all better. I'd love for my young adult children to have you for friends.
I thought it was just good to see young black men taking the truth and listening to it because a lot of us new from the start that African people enslaved their own people long before white people brought them and they forgot to mention it was Spanish people who were the first ones who went to Africa
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ITS GOOD TO SEE
but the internet has been around for far too long to attribute this to wanting to learn
however i don't feel bad about the fact they did it for the money and realised they actually enjoyed learning like this
This isn't a dating app, your social status/identity is not required... 🤦
Thank you for being straight ❣️
Y'all are one of the few reaction channels where your conversations are just as interesting as the material you guys are watching.
The attitude toward listening to historical facts and discourse among peers makes this one of my favorite channels. Regardless of race, gender, religion, these are the conversations we need to be having. Humans have so much more to offer each than to fight about. You guys fucking rock.
As a Black woman conservative, I appreciate the fact that more Black Democrats are waking up to the truth. Welcome to you all!
I'm so sad that most aren't. If things don't change in the next election, Black America is doomed. It's so sad that Americans are spoon fed all the lies from their own government and media. People don't want to take the time to research anything. Black America has historically voted for those who keep them down. 😢
This is NOT the truth!!!
Thomas Sowell LIED about the Alex Haley quote.
You are doing a disservice to ALL our enslaved ancestors who suffered horrible treatment way worse than what was described in ROOTS.
Both republicans and Democrats are 2 sides of the same coin. Y'all both wierdos. That's why I stopped voting. Both democrats and republicans are full of shit. Especially the politicians.
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Please tell me what are black conservatives doing? I don’t think black Americans need to hampered with labels.
They’re both political parties but currently conservatives are the ones that are rational compared to the democrats. Black conservatives are trying not to play the victim anymore as far as I can tell.
As a woman who happens to be white I am so encouraged by you young men for searching out truth and for not allowing the race baiters to define who you get to be...
love you
Amen
This is beautiful. Im not talking about black guys being converted or blinded. Im just happy to see the conversation. The outcome matters less than the discussion. Whatever society decides as right and wrong, as long as the determination came from an intelligent and informed conversation, the country is moving in the right direction!
Great to hear intelligent young men who want to get facts in a world that lies to all of us.🙏🔥❤️
As an older black guy, I’m so thankful and happy to finally see more younger black guys talking sense, and spreading the knowledge.
Keep up the great work, guys.
All of us that agree with the video, and the words - don’t stay silent.
thank you, from an older white dude.
@@roastbeefdinner haha 😂👍
"And the truth shall set you free."
This is why people (black and not) are systematically lied to about the history of slavery.
Isn't this kind of like the definition of evil?
Who is doing the lying and why?
As an older white dude of 56. I've been thinking about how ridiculous it is for people to even still be talkin about racism when that s*** died when I was a kid. But I'm glad to see everybody in this Young Generation educating themselves. We are all freaking beautiful. And so blessed to be here in America. Oh and by the way your vice-president Kamala Harris. I bet you didn't know that her great-great-grandfather was the largest Plantation slave owner in Jamaica. Look it up her great-great-grandfather owned more than 300 slaves. Funny how your media never tells you that. But it's true look it up and then think about it everybody on the Democrat Party voted in a person who knew was a direct descendant of a former slave owner. All while chanting white supremacist crap and slavery crap to get everybody excited and hating each other again. They failed to mention that the vice president is a direct descendant of slave owners
@bastiat No, see that's where we're wrong. Hate isn't acceptable, but it should NOT be legislated - UNLESS the speech advocating hate is calling for physical violence, and taking action against an individuals rights.
We shouldn't arrest people - on any side of the aisle - for being racist. It's part of having free thought, and freedom of speech. But legislating against hatred is where humans start screwing things up - which leads us to problems we have now.
If you don't want your child being exposed to LGBT agendas, you should be able to speak out about it; because you also KNOW the people in charge at the moment would LOVE to arrest and detain any trump supporter, or any anti-lbgt, pro-life person - because the same people labeled those things hate. Understand?
ie. You make racism illegal (it never was, you just cant do racist THINGS), but then the people in power start calling EVERYTHING racist. Which is what is happening right now in our society.
Do something against the 'agenda', and you're automatically an istaphobe.
Freedom of speech secures things people WANT to hear AND DONT WANT TO HEAR. More important than that, is they have the RIGHT TO SAY THOSE THINGS.
Again, as long as you're not advocating any physical violence and harm, it should be allowed. This protects you today, if the people in power are on your side, or against your side. It secures equality for all.
Hate is acceptable, there are plenty of things I "hate". It is physical violence, segregation, or apartheid, that should be illegal, and legislated.
And I'll remind folks - over the last couple years, there are colleges, middle schools and gradeschools that have began 'dorms for minorities only'. Elementary and grade school kids are being segregated into minorities, and whites. And even, I can't beleive I have to say this, 'graduations for minorities only'.
THIS is racist. This is segregation. This is apartheid, and should be fixed.
What would Dr. Martin Luther King say about these events? Exactly. He'd be pissed.
I would like to personally thank these five young men for being open-minded and taking the time to educate themselves with facts from a very wise man. These guys are five steps forward in my book. Again, thanks guys
agree 100%
They are Ragin Cajuns I think in college in Louisiana. I am white and older and so proud to see any young people educate themselves. I wish more young people would so this. So proud of them. They will go far in life and will be great contributors to society because they are educating themselves. You go guys as I am proud to watch your videos and watch you learn.
I love your videos. I love that you listen to the information given; think about what you’re hearing and then share and debate with each other. It’s refreshing to see young people thinking for themselves! It’s comforting to know that not all young people are brainwashed. God bless Mr. So well. What a brilliant man.
I really appreciate the banter, education, discussion and intellect with which you all address important issues affecting us as a nation as well as humanity. In every video I've watched of your discussions, I find the central theme of "you can accomplish anything you set your mind to" a much needed breath of fresh air. Someone once told me that I had taught them to never underestimate the power of the human spirit, and I would say those same words to you all today. You define that quote and encourage ALL people to do the same. I wish your videos could be made available in schools if for nothing else than to facilitate honest, even difficult conversations regarding controversial subjects. The manner in which you engage in these discussions are of equal educational merit as they are peaceful, well thought out, insightful, and respectful. Brilliant videos and encouraging and uplifting channel. Thank you.
I'm a white southern man in his sixties. I can guarantee you that I have seen things get better over my lifetime. I smiled when I finally saw teenagers both black and white just hanging out together at a friend of my teenage nephew's house; all were smiling and laughing, and hugging each other when they had to go. Finally they didn't see color, just other people they liked. It isn't done yet, but from your grandparents day it has come so very far. Bless you for the open minds to not lockstep the stuff being fed en-masse, and being intelligent enough to debate, and reach your own conclusions.
First we had inequality, then we moved toward equality, now too many people want to move back toward inequality, in the name of justice. One step forward, two steps back.
weve gotten lazy in our struggle though. corporations in america are passing laws to allow child labor restrictions to be removed, and slavery is spreading in africa like a wildfire all over again.
Definitely! Racism has been reduced to the point where we have blacks actually staging hate crimes! If there truly was widespread racism, it wouldn’t need to be manufactured. Any time someone tells you racism hasn’t gotten any better in the past 40 years - just walk away from them as they are a lost cause
You are a must and when people like yourself who seen it with their own eyes, we are entirely doomed to the liberal neo-slavery
I'm 52 white southern redneck hillbilly I only seen a few instances of racism growing up it was from both sides and black and white and also black and white together against Mexican people. I went in the military in 89 and racism of any type wasn't tolerated at that time. I honestly thought it was pretty much a dead issue except from KKKand Black Panther types the entire time I was in . When I got out I lived right next to MLK Ave in Vegas for few years never had any bad experience.Then moved back to NC in early 2000s In. Wake county. The fist day of school all 3 of my kids came home from 3 different schools talking about how many times they were called whiteboy or whitegirl by teachers and students .We were more than surprised and talked to the kids about it and told them not to hold it against any of the ones doing it and just try and get along then my son got off the bus white marks where he was choked by a young black boy for sitting in the wrong set as it was only for black kids.The next day I got a call from the school even before I had a chance to call the school and they wanted me to come in. To my surprise they asked me to come in ASAP when I got there I was meet by 3 administration people and the vice principal who proceeded to tell me how my son was suspended for a week even though he did nothing but stop the kid from choking him and they even admitted that he only defended his self and all witnesses and the driver had the same story.We as a family learned a big lesson that day .
This needs to be mandatory viewing in all grade schools.
I'm teaching my son the real history💗 & that of course slavery and racism is WRONG.
We use the school system to teach everything. I believe subjects like this need to have conversations within families, houses of worship, and social groups. The media has an agenda to drive people into a prescribed belief.
Unfortunately, American education on the subject of słavery is abysmal, it leaves out way too much. Słavery across the globe and throughout time wasn’t because someone had a certain skín color and if those people weren’t there słavery wouldn’t exist. Yes, in North America for a time race was the excuse that was used, so was religion, but those were only the excuses used.
Many people seemingly only want to díscuss North America or put more an emphasis on it saying it was far worse than anywhere else. So let’s clear up some things. we often hear people say 400 years but actually Błack people didn’t become the majority of słaves in Notth America till the mid 1700s. Which lasted until 1865, just over 100 years. Still horrific, still clearly an injustice and críme against humanity but certainly not an isolated event. Before that the majority of słaves in Ameríca were the índigenous tríbes/First Nations people. In fact 400 years really doesn’t even scratch the surface, słavery existed for tens of thousands of years, if not hundreds of thousands. Słaves and índentured servànts were used for labor and/or s3x.
There are a lot of mísconceptions regarding índentured servantš, índentured servànts weren’t always treated better, nor did they always agree to be índentured servànts (that’s right there were iídentured servànts that were forced into servítude, just like słaves). Sometimes the contract holder would sell the contract of the índentured servànt to someone else without their consent, thereby extending the contract (so 20 years could become 40). Another thing they would do is førce the wømen to get pregnant, which would also extend their contracts and keep them pregnant till old age (by then owing more years, than they had years of life left and I’ll let you figure out how they førced them to get pregnant).
How about słavery, so many people make arguments it was only horrifíc in Ameríca and that it wasn’t that bad here or there but is that true? Słavery as already mentioned existed for thousands and thousands of years, all across the globe. Chattel słavery did in fact also exist in Afríca and it wasn’t a kinder gentler form of słavery; unless you consider mass human sacrifíce and canníbalísm kinder and gentler. Słavery existed in Afríca well before Eurøpeans showed up and Afrícan rulers fought the Eurøpeans in order to keep it going. In the Middle East the słave market was huge, the słaves brought in were often castràted (so no, that wasn’t a kinder gentler form either). Słavery existed in Asia and Asía is still infamous for having sweatshops. The Vikíngs often raided Eurøpe and took słaves back with them. The wømen they took served the Viking men, both work and s3x. When the słave øwner díed, the wøman he had as a słave would often be gàng ràpéd by the men in the village and kīlled to serve the owner in the afterlife. Ancient Romans brutałły ensłaved other Europeans and people around the Mediterranean. In the Amerícas the Natíves enslaved others Natíves and also had human sacrifíce. The point is słavery was and is horrifíc, all over the world it’s horrifíc and has been for a very very long time (that’s not minimizing it for one group to say that, in fact it’s minimizing everywhere else to not recognize it was horrific all over).
How about chattel slavery? Here is the thing, you can’t ensłave descendànts if there aren’t any. The Barbary słaves often had a much shorter lífe span and had no hope of procreatíon. Many díed chaíned in the ínterior of the ship sitting in their own excrèment covered in open wøunds or díed chaíned to a sínking ship that lost a battle. There was no fèmale companíonship, no livíng to an old age, no sunshíne, no høpe … Just the incredibly harsh realitíes of the shíp for the rest of their short míserable líves. In the Middle East the vast majoríty of słaves were castratèd and agian never had the opportuníty to reprøduce. Many of which didn’t even survíve being castrated. Does anyone really think that’s any “better”? Also, this idea many people have that chíldren of słaves were born free across the globe or słaves weren’t sold as property (except in Ameríca) is absurd.
When people say that in North Ameríca it was wørse or Eurøpeans have the most to be błamed for (which is said a lot lately), that isn’t intellectually honest and is blatantly ígnoring the atrocitíes commítted around the globe. Yes, it was horrific in North America AND it was/is horrific across the globe throughout mankind’s history. When people blame only group of people over everyone else, it is in fact minimizing the atrocitíes committed everywhere else. Those people are doing precisely what they blame other people for doing (i.e., “minimizíng” the atrocitíes of słavery, except they are minimizing it around the entire world).
This should be the new CRT!
Do you guys realize black people asked for Jim crow laws? Back the black people had pride and wanted to build their own communities, this paved the way foe Jim crow law, the gave the people what they wanted, but never considered what they where asking for.
Love how you all are are open to learning new things & I love listening to your discussions.
I watch a variety of your videos and I enjoyed everyone.
I am a descendant of Irish slaves brought to North America even before Africans were brought here, and Lebanese Christians enslaved by the Ottoman Empire in the TWENTIETH century. I spent nearly 20 years in sub-Saharan Africa where slavery still exists. Thomas Sowell one of the greatest minds of our time. A wise man will be made better for listening to him.
The Irish weren’t slaves they were indentured servants
Irish were not looked at as property! The Irish could have children and their children weren't forced into servitude. Sick of people misrepresenting facts!
@@watutalkinboutwillis4870 exactly it’s getting exhausting
They were slaves
They were brought over in chains and sold. Dig deeper there are several books about it and ship logs.
Remember the Irish were the hated Catholics. Look up Elizabeth the first and Cromwell.
They were slaves. They were the hated Catholics .
Kennedy was hated for the same reason.
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I'm a Slav from Baltic area I'm Polish and I respect what you are doing here KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!
I'm Icelandic descendant of both slaves and masters, rapists and rape victims, murderers and the murdered. In the US I'm suddenly responsible for something dead white people did during times when we were colonized and dying of hunger. My dad was born in a sod hut without electricity at the edge of the livable world. Europe had a revolution because the common people were treated so badly.
We're applying the values of today on totally different times and acting like we can pass moral judgment. I am truly sorry for the CURRENT state of things and am doing my best to change them. I am also sorry for the past but I can't do shit about that. I'm focusing on spreading love in the now.
"Slave" comes from "slav"
@@Robert-rl7rd and the root Slav-/Slov- has many meanings i.e. Slava (*glory* in many Slavic languages if not actually all of them, *celebration of a patron Saint* in Serbian), Slovo (*letter* in Serbian, *goodbye* in Slovenian) etc.
Also, Slavs being slaves to Avars and Vikings is actually still very unfathomable to me. Slavs are very temperamental and protective, so them actually succumbing to someone is just otherworldly, haha.
@@yourereadingmyusername Slaviti in Serbo-Croatian means to celebrate, so it's the same word for glory or celebration. The word slave does in fact come from the word Slav. In the Medieval Greek of the Byzantine Empire, Sklabos was both the word for Slavic people and for slaves. Just as the words servant and serf come from the Latin word servus, which could mean either a free or unfree person who served another. The Scythians raided the interior of Eastern Europe and traded slaves to the Greeks in the Classical Period, while Macedonia was occupied by the Ottoman Empire until the 1st Balkan War ended in 1913. Since slavery continued in Turkey until the early 20th century, one can glean that the history of Slavs being targets for slavery was nearly 3,000 years long. Slavery has a peculiar history in the Ottoman Empire, since the elite fighters of the Janissary corps were all raised as soldiers after being taken as slaves from Christian families, and the most intelligent boys were trained to be the empire's chief ministers and commanders. The cavalry were the Sipahis, who were assigned a fief called a timar, and all of the Dhimmis, non-Muslims, on that land were his property. This encouraged people to convert to Islam in order to gain legal rights, but also reduced the income of the Sipahis. Eventually the Janissaries became so influential, that the resulting in-fighting between free Muslims and Janissaries resulted in the Sultan himself becoming a sort of slave, confined to his palace to prevent succession crises or removal of the privileges and influence of the various classes.
true theres a video, look up "The Diabolical History Of The Barbary Slave Trade"
Omg I just came across you guys. I cannot stop watching and I wish I was or could be in the same room with you for these conversations. This has been so much enlightening that it has given me chills n goose flesh!! God bless you and may the Creator provide you continued guidance, insight, and protection!!
I genuinely love this banter!!!!
This is the conversation that needs to be happening! This is so encouraging and fascinating/educational to watch and listen to all of y'all discuss this.
Welcome to the light bulb effect. I have slaves in my ancestry....... They're Irish..... Thank you for looking into this issue deeper & having open minds to listen & process this.... Love you Thomas Sowell!!!!!! ❤
My Irish ancestors were the ones enslaved to Africa & to Australia.
I love seeing people opening their minds to history as a whole. The only way we’ll eradicate racism is when people truly understand what slavery was actually about & understand that all people have been enslaved or done the enslaving throughout history.
Adults and children who were working class at that time in England and Scotland in cities worked pretty much all the time in crap conditions and nothing to show for it. Just notice how many in the U.S who have Irish ancestry were slaves . Eventhough slavery is bad.
If you think about it there are sex slaves in the West , African sllaves for some Middle Eastern countries
My son and his bestie in kindergarten had no concept of racism. My son is mixed but can "pass" for White-ish. His friend is 100% Black. They didn't know they were "different" from one another... Until they went to school. The SCHOOLS "taught" them about slavery and racism. I remember the day when my son came home from school telling me that his friend "Andrew" could be his slave... I went weak in the knees and needed to grab something to hold on. My first response were tears that came immediately to my eyes, I had to turn away from my sweet boy so he would not see me trying to compose myself. I was crushed. That school has taught him and his friend they were different in terms of not the color of their skin, (they knew that of course,) but it what their "worth" was 100s of years ago. SOCIETY (and sadly, yes, our schools,) TEACHES us to be racist toward one another.
Sadly, you're right. They mostly attack elementary kids to indoctrinate their minds to their leftist, warped views. The Democrat party is also behind all of this to gain future votes. The concept here is called: INDOCTRINATION
I hope you raise hell along with the parents of the other child! That is awful.
I'll take things that never happened for $1000, Alex.
Yet, still, education not ignorance is the best way to handle things....and that includes parenting. It is up to you to guide your child that people were wrong back then for believing it and instill in them that we are equal despite any differences we have, real and imagined.
The school teaching history--so that we may not repeat it and we can learn from it--is doing the right thing. Sheltering your kid and shielding them from the realities of the past will ultimately do them more harm than good. Better he learns now and can grow and develop to despise the idea of inequality and love justice, kindness, etc (make these things a pillar of his being) than to never know and be unprepared when he has to face these harsh realities.
If the school hadn't taught him the streets would have. You don't live in a bubble!
Young men, kudos for having the desire to learn and grow in your knowledge. This gives me hope for OUR future.
Much respect to y'all for educating yourselves with the wisdom of Dr. Thomas Sowell. As 51yo white man from Louisiana, Dr. Sowell has taught me alot about true history and how I should view the world. Dr. Sowell is an often overlooked gift to the world and his words could change the people of our if only they cared to listen. Much love and respect to y'all!! Keep making these videos and I, for one, will keep watching!!
I'm a black man in my 50s I love to see young black men discussing these kind of topics, keep learning and teaching young brothers your the future
“Slavery created racism, racism didn’t create slavery” that’s a great observation
Omg I love you guys! I love the message towards the end about how everyone has the same opportunities, regardless of skin color. Thank you guys for this video.
I am an old Australian bloke, white, 77 years, I love you all, guys. I never judged a person by race or colour.
Teach this in schools. Destroy the false narrative being pushed. We need to band together to create a truly great world. Stop with hate from the past. We are in this together. It's time we stood shoulder to shoulder as People. We The People will move mountains. ✌❤
Edit: Thank you for this conversation and insight into your think tank. These are the conversations that need to be had in a healthy manner. They usually result in positive results with things being learned and people being understood. This is how progress is made. 👏
They literally teach slavery in schools
Can't teach it in schools the left will yell THATS RACIST
They never will. Their goal is to destroy unity. A unified people can rise above the current enslavers..... the govt.
Never. The cavemen have destroyed our people took everything away from us they took our name, our land, our culture, our language, etc. makes sense why my people are so confused and lost. And picking up Europeans culture, philosophy, ideologies will never work
Agreed
Thomas Sowell is one of the greatest minds of this century. You literally can not go wrong with any of his books.
He's a self-hating Uncle Tom who is used by the right to cover for their racism.
There’s nothing brilliant about a conservative telling black people to pick themselves up by the bootstraps
Facts
Why is he a "great mind"?
@@KevinGloverpost24 watch his videos or read any of his 30 books & you'll see. He's a man of conviction and is not swayed by anyone! He researches & forms his opinions on FACTS!!
Love you guys. Love your reactions yall be havin me dyin sometimes LOL. Keep findin more gems of wisdom like this to react to, this was really educational forreal.
You guys are so smart. I love watching y'all discuss the topic of the video. That tells me you really care about the issues -- not just to get likes or subs.
Also don't forget how many white people gave their lives to free black people in the civil war.
I love your guys's conversations. I'm 66 years old and I've learned a lot watching you guys.
Lincoln didn't want to free slaves. He just knew the war would be lost if he didn't have slaves on his side. But he did know slavery was close to an end anyways.
Another good one is Mr. Luther King. He died to push his message of equality. Probably one of the best people to ever live in terms of societal movements/social change. So many people have given their lives to create societies where everyone can live together and pursue happiness for not only themselves, but each other.
@@Spadookie Lincoln did not like slavery. Lincoln could never have freed the slaves without the civil war. It was in the constitution from the outset (or the southern slave states would have never joined). The only way to make slavery illegal was to amend the constitution and to do that the slave states would have to vote for it and they weren't going to do that. In fact the Emancipation Proclamation didn't free the slaves in the North. Maryland, Deleware, Kentucky, and Missouri slavery was still legal as they had not joined the war against the Union and they had the right to keep slavery under the constitution. These states did change their laws in the 1864-1865 time frame to end it in the Union states.
In the end the the South starting the civil war was the only way slavery was ended. Once they made war on the union they lost their right in the constitutional ammendment process. The union after the war as they let the Confederate states back in made it a requirement to abolish slavery in the admittance back into the union. Some areas like West VA in 1863 became states and were admitted into the union because they did that.
@@Spadookie FACTS DONT CARE ABOUT FEELINGS
@@Spadookie Lol, slavery was close to an end? No it wasn't, were that true the South wouldn't have went to war to keep it.
Thomas Sowell is the most influential man in my life. He is one of a kind! Mr. Sowell is the greatest man to ever touch my life without ever meeting him. His books have educated me about history more than any school or teacher has ever done. Mr. Sowell has taught me to never forget to” think” and remember the three questions to ask whenever in a debate with a person on the left. If you don’t know the three questions I would urge you to seek them out.
Thomas Sowell should be considered one of HUMAN kind's GREATEST educators !.....In my opinion.
He also influenced me, and I enjoyed learning from him with his books and interviews.
@@tom-fq5cf He already is among more than can be counted. Sowell and Hanson are my two personal heroes. Sowell will go down in history as being as, if not more, influential than Mises or Smith. And Hanson the same, only as Livy or Acton.
Sowell may very well be _the_ GOAT.
Should check out Norman Williams, and Jesse Lee Peterson and I can’t forget Larry Elder
He’s one of my thinking master but the man who help me the most without have never met him was Mr Scott Peck.
Good conversation. Thanks guys. Keep listening to Thomas Sowell.
I love what you guys are doing. Conversation is great. Most of the topics brought to you show are interesting like this one. Keep doing this. We have to do our research, schools don't teach you all we need and sometimes they trick young people...
I’m a 73 year old with Sicilian blood. Yes, we were used as slaves as well. Your videos are a real service to truth and brotherhood. Dr. Sowell is a true academic and one of my hero’s for truth.
Sowell is a conservative Republican MAGA Trumper in bed with Reagan and Clarence Thomas. Unfortunately he's one of those minority individuals who chooses to be on board with white washing the harm that occurred with slavery and with racism.
As being a middle aged Sicilian American I am glad to see this as we were enslaved in 711AD by the Moores. It is not about race it is a (the stronger will survive) weaker stronger issue by far.
I would also point out Italians coming to America were not considered white. Italians didn't look like Germans, French or Brits. The U.S. government actually created the Immigration Act of 1924 to limit the number of Italians who could enter the country. That is why you see larger Italian populations in Argentina, Brazil and Columbia than in the U.S. today. So all of this slavery talk in the U.S. ... has nothing to do with Italians since they did not even arrive in any noticeable numbers until the 1920s and were not welcomed when the did reach the U.S.
I'm Irish and we were enslaved in huge numbers.
Yeah, same with the Irish.
Love to see young men embarking on a journey of intellectual discovery and honesty that ventures outside of what they had been previously taught. Definitely not enough of this in today's world.
Facts. Civil discourse is rare today, and it's refreshing to see curious, young minds having honest conversations.
Who wrote the books and who taught us that? White people!
Well said.
Seeing this group of young men taking the time to go on this journey is really a "feel good" moment for this White guy in East Texas. Yes, it is eye-opening but necessary to hear. I am knocking 60 on the door and grew up a military brat schooled by the DOD. We were taught this history, but I was shocked in college that nobody else had learned this but knew the "Roots" version. I knew I had to keep quiet about it because I knew that even mentioning it would have me labeled as a racist. I have also been a follower of Dr. Sowell for probably 30 years and have all of his books. He is a national treasure and I could listen to him speak for hours.
"That ventures outside of what they had been taught previously" - the only way its different is that it leaves even more information and context out than the standard American history lesson, which is already obviously abysmal.
Love how you guys talk things over. Equal opportunity - not equal outcomes. Like Michael sang, "you want to change the world, look at the man in the mirror."
Love your debates. Myself being a descendant of indentureship to the Caribbean, this topic is close to my heart. The weak will always be preyed upon. It’s only the laws or rather the enforcement of the laws that has tempered that action.
I am a white women and I firmly believe our politicians and news media strive to keep racism alive. We are all human beings. You guys are awesome
It’s there way of controlling the people
i think thats just a byproduct. we love to hate. we would sooner throw an innocent man in prison than to say we cant find a culprit, Bad news always gets more clicks than good news, false information will always spread farther than the correction of said information. Getting a majority to hate anything, will help get the support of the majority if you push hating said thing. Our society always pushes towards extremism, the most x type of person will get farthest in that social group.
Yep.. let’s just ignore the fact that a lot of white people literally can’t stop being racist and are having a collective meltdown that the population is changing and white people will be the minority within the next 50 years. Which is ramping up the racism. Let’s ignore that. Let’s ignore the fact that a old racist bastard just shot a young black man for KNOCKING ON HIS DOOR. Yep.
You are correct…division keeps them in power.
Fascinating commentary! There's a reason they keep Thomas Sowell out of the public education system... he is a national treasure that many know little of
God bless the DR. For all his work.
Great conversation. An important element is that wealthy people had a vested interest in fanning the flames between poor black and white people.
As an old white man, I had a boss over me at Walmart that was black and an ex-lieutenant in the military. He was dignified, proud and stood straight as an arrow, and always commanded respect. I wish I could have been as respected as he was by all, and by me. When I was in the military, I had a woman who was over me and she was also a strong person, and though not friendly, she was respected. When I was younger, I had a black man teach me how to operate a piece of equipment and over the next few years as my friend he taught me much of how I would act all through my life, and he became the First Black firefighter in the city of Odessa, Texas.
Odessa Texas I s still racist but it's now the Mexican majority that are racist
we need black americans.. and america loves them.. lets unite .. the system is fucked up..
@@ladeacarr4245 The people who run the system want us to hate each other, it is the only way they can keep control. Americans uniting is their biggest fear.
@@ladeacarr4245 are you single? Lol you're so gorgeous
The black person will NEVER respect a white person. Don't hold your breath.
"Slavery wasn't born from racism, racisim was born from slavery." Such a keen observation. I would imagine in order to own a slave, you would rationalize something in your head to justify it. A lie no doubt, but perpetuated by a society that benefited from slavery that enabled and pushed the lie. Very enlightening to understand the origin of beliefs and even more helpful to put them in their proper place. Listening to you guys is super enlightening!
Racism has been pushed by government as far back as government has existed as a means to control population, it's a division tactic always has been,
Could even be said, possibly more accurately, that racism was born from classism as slavery as an institution is built upon that. Either way racism is a by product of other underlying elements of the human experience and psyche not a root problem itself.
I do not need to rationalize about eating a hamburger. I do not think about a cow living its entire life in a small area and then being slaughtered so I can eat a hamburger. There is nothing wrong with eating a hamburger. In 50 or 100 years it might be different. People may look back at people who ate animals as being evil. Slave owners did not need to rationalize owning slaves, because there was nothing wrong with it. It had been going on for thousands of years. It was normal, just like eating a hamburger today.
@@Allah_the_molester This is a very poor understanding of sin. Something being accepted as normal doesn't do away with the knowledge that it's wrong, so rationalizations persist no matter how much wickedness is accepted. It happens with abortion, for example, but that's not only one example among many. All wickedness requires some kind of excuse to delude oneself out of the awareness of the image of YHWH.
@@blanktrigger8863 It is obvious that you are one of those people that apply today's views on the past to make judgements. You call slavory a sin, but even the Bible allowed for slavory. What it does do is set out rules for how slaves are to be treated. I imagine that in a hundred or so years, things we think are normal will be considered to be evil because technology and people's views will undergo many changes. It is hard to know what those changes will be, because we have no idea how the future will unfold.
If I raise a cow for food, is it wrong? If I take the eggs from chickens to eat, is it wrong? If I use a horse to do my work, is it wrong? I can imagine that in the future it could be viewed as evil, but to me, it is not wrong, it is not a sin, it is something that is needed for survival. In the past, owning slaves was exactly the same thing. It was not something that was evil to the people that were involved. It went on for thousands of years, because people felt it was needed.
I have no idea what your past is. I'm not sure if you are religious or what religion might interest you. I do not know if you are using a dictionary definition or sin or a biblical definition. Webster's dictionary defines sin as:
a: an offense against religious or moral law
b: an action that is or is felt to be highly reprehensibleit's a sin to waste food
c: an often serious shortcoming : FAULT
2a: transgression of the law of God
b: a vitiated state of human nature in which the self is estranged from God
The KJV of the Bible states: Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
The verse covers both God's laws and man's laws, as long as man's laws are not trying to override God's laws.
The Bible allows for slavery, so it does not violate God's laws. How those slaves were treated is what is important when it comes to deciding Biblical sin.
The definition used by Webster seems to preclude it being a sin, too. Slave owners followed the law. It was the norm of the time. It was acceptable by society. There was no wickedness from the views of the people involved. What has changed is time, people's views, and technology. Now most sane people view slavery as evil, but when it was in common use, it was no different than using animals to do work, eating cows, or taking eggs from chickens. You are the one that is rationalizing to believe that slavery was wickedness in the past. Most other major religions allowed for slavery too.
You brought up abortion to prove your point, but abortion would be a violation of God's laws, so clearly it is a sin, even if people feel it is normal. The laws that allow abortion would be against God's laws, so the laws themselves would be sinful.
The LOVE watching you guys work this stuff out. Try not to talk over each other too much. I’m and old white boomer so it’s sometimes hard to keep up!❤
Thomas Sowell is a national treasure (may he live forever).
I had the privilege of sharing emails with Mr Sowell years ago. I contacted him about a story he wrote and in which he encouraged feedback. I grew up in W Detroit in the 60' and 70's. As a white kid it was no problem. It was mixed about 50/50 then black/white. Everybody got along great. My bestie was Frank Mays..He is black and we must have spent the night on sleepovers every weekend. Both moms would come to the basement with treats like english muffin pizzas etc and yell down to go to bed at around 11. We never did hahaha..stayed up watching TV until the channels went off for the night. Thomas and I shared some emails..he is a great writer.
If you are in England there are services just for Minorities. Like the oldies lunch club, they send a funded bus for Black and Minority Elders. Your friend can get in the bus, but you are NOT allowed because you are white, so you are left behind to walk at 85 years? How do you feel? It happened to my dad. 😮😢
@@claire6795 - Similar stuff happens here all the time (constantly). It's called white liberal marxism/ socialism, critical race theory, affirmative action, "diversity, equity, and inclusion", and it's all Jewish Zionist Racism against Patriotic Libertarian white people (as is the scam defamation of antisemitism). African Slavery in the Americas was largely a European Jewish Banker/ Royal Family institution, and most of the ship owners, and slave traders were Jewish. People like Aaron Lopez among many others.
They paid other people to do the actual work of picking up and importing slaves. Political Talmudic Zionist Marxism, is the only real and dangerous racism in the entire world, because it seeks to enslave all of us, Jewish or not. All this divide and conquer nonsense and reverse racism against Patriotic White Americans/ Illegal Immigration, Wars and Refugees, is literally designed to destroy this nation in order to takeover and control the entire world.
We interrupted their plans at the time of the American Declaration of Independence and Revolution. So they created the Bavarian Illuminati on May 1st, 1776, just two months prior knowing that they would have to go through America to realize the Millenias old Pharisaical Talmudic Zionist Rabbinical Goals as God's Chosen Race.
My family is Jewish (one side). My Great Grandmother was a prisoner of (and survivor of) Auschwitz. England was taken over long ago, and Germany, France, the USA, Crown Nations, the entire Western World. If people don't wake up soon, we will again be totally enslaved. First Financially and from Debt, and ultimately with Robotics, Artificial Intelligence, Machine Learning, a Single Global Digital Currency, and eventually everyone Microchipped with all their data, personal information, identification, and banking information on the chip. This isn't fiction. It's fact.
@bastiat way to miss the point moron...
One has ended.
The other is endorsed as "equity"
Sowell is amazing. If he were 30 years younger, Id say - run for office. Very smart man. Many years ago he wrote Basic Economics. Took me 6 months to get through it because you have think through evrything hes saying. One of the most important books Ive ever read.
Keep your copy, if it’s possible. I keep things like this, because these schools and universities have lost their minds. In my library, I have a copy of BAD BLOOD, which is a book that reports on the Tuskegee Experiment-which was still being run up until the 1970s.
Sowell is too smart to be a political CRIMINAL. The BEST minds stay OUT of politics, the WORST make a career out of it.
@@ritarevell7195 Collect ebooks and share them via torrenting, for those that are techy as well. Physical books are equally important. But they're hard to proliferate for us as individuals. Digital copies can be spread like a virus, which really helps to reduce censorship.
@@seanld444 well I have only found this one example of Bad Blood. None in digital form, and only one other physical copy, I would say this was about 30 years ago when I found this copy and it was used at that time.
I found this very educational, not just from Thomas Sowell, but what these thoughtful men had to say was very enlightening. Great video!
Love you guys willingness to discuss all history ❤️❤️❤️
As a Irish woman there were thousands of Irish slaves when England took over Ireland they murdered tortured us starved us and took any dignity we had a man by the name of Cromwell murdered thousands and sold thousands of us into slavery they also used the title indentured to send us to America. Australia and any where they could use us my mother when she was a young married woman my father and mother went to Wales to find work and they struggled to get a place to live the had signs up no blacks no Irish no dogs slavery was always a thing you said it best we are all one people thank you god bless
Vikings slaved Irish too because they were weaker. Many icelandic people have Irish heritage because of that.
White Jamaican here. My family are of Irish heritage back to when Cromwell sent his men over to Ireland. Sent some of the men in my family back then to work with the African slaves in the Caribbean and my dad’s side have been there since. I was born and raised in Jamaica to a white Jamaican man of Irish descent and a Colombian mother. I’ve recently just moved to Dublin for university and loving life in Ireland. It’s so strange as I’ve only been here since September but it feels like home. ☘️
That is quiet true of the vikings they did indeed rape and murder and took slaves but not on the scale of the British who were also not so kind to the poor in there own country but they were not being inslaved in there thousands and the seed of hatred wasnt bestowed on to them as it was to the Irish they went as far as to describe us as less than human they measured our heads and drew as monkeys or cave like people it is fact but we are all people and I thank god for the fact we all are here today and we are all human we are all sons and daughters of god
Oliver Cromwell. I've got a book on tyrants and he's mentioned in it. England's only dictator too. Religion was his main agenda.
@@stevencoates3382 today his name is still the most hated name in Ireland with good reason people talk about the potato famine as if it was our only source of food it was the cheapest food source we had and the blithe as it was known not only affected the Irish it affected most of Europe the difference was there leaders acted on it and provided there people with grain by the time it had gotten so bad in Ireland it was to late they British government whole handily let the Irish starve black 47 as it is still known in Ireland as the worst year for us hit and by then half our population was gone and still to this day it hasn’t recovered the famine ships left our shores the lucky ones the ones who could barely afford the fares left knowing they would never see Ireland again there families there villages there loved ones and most died on those coffin ships I would like to thank a nation of people who themselves were only after slightly recovering from the trail of tears the Choctaw nation who heard of irelands plight and send money to us in a time who saved many a life thank you we will never forget you and your part of our hearts forever
These 5 brilliant young men give me hope for the future!!🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾
I agree !
What is brilliant? That they listened?
And they are curious. That's a sign of good intellect.
Brillant ? Now be fr
A hundred 🙌
I love you guys so much for having open conversations with each other and looking up actually history.
White male here living in Japan for the past 17 years. I thought that this was an excellent discussion. You all made some good points. It's stuff like this that gives me hope for the next generation because you guys are going to be able to accomplish things that my generation never could when it comes to topics like this.
I'm a 62-year-old white man born and raised in the deep south, and I absolutely love watching you guys do these videos! I love the way y'all talk it out and do critical thinking instead of making comments based on your "feelings". I'm so glad y'all discovered Dr. Sowell. Bravo guys, keep it up!
Peer review is very important.
Peer review is how we know which Dr's to listen to and which to ignore.
Over 99 percent of biologists, geologists and climatologists all agree that humans cause the earths temperature to rise. Less than 1 percent of biologists disagree and think humans are not a problem.
I'm gonna go with the 99 percent.
Dr Sowell is not respected, believed or trusted by other Drs in the same subject.
Check his peer reviews.
99 percent of economists think racism is an obvious problem. Less than 1 percent of economists dont think racism is a problem.
Im gonna go with the 99 percent.
Its shocking to see how easy racist, right wing propaganda can fool so many people.
The idea that racism isnt a problem is insane.
No theres no point arguing with me. Its not me you are arguing with. GO CHECK HIS PEER REVIEWS.
Its not my opinion that Sowell is a fool. Its all the other academics opinion. If your about to say how wrong i am then you best be ready to disagree with almost every economist in America.
No other respected academic agrees with him.
Sowell is obviously wrong.
You can tell he is wrong by the looking at prison stats.
Or school stats.
Or health stats.
Or police stats.
Or housing stats.
Or business stats.
Or welfare stats.
This truly is such a dumb argument.
On one side you have Jackie Robinson, Martin Luthar King, Mohammed Alli, Malcolm X, Reverent Jessie Jackson, Thurgood Marshall, Rosa Parks, Barrack Obama and Colin Kaepernick. Who all say racism has been and is a big problem.
On the other side you have Sowell saying no its not racism thats a problem.
It what universe is this even a debate.
race riots in 1935, 1966, 1992, 2020. Race riots all over america. but yet this old timer says theres no problem with racism in america. Its absolute madness.
You might as well try to convince me that up is down and north is south.
Now follows some of Sowells own words and opinons.
Sowell assessed President George W. Bush as "a mixed bag" but "an honorable man."
Two weeks before the 2016 presidential election, Sowell recommended voters to vote for Trump over Hillary Clinton. In 2018, when asked on his thoughts of Trump's presidency, Sowell replied, "I think he's better than the previous president."[17]
During interviews in 2019, Sowell defended Trump against charges of racism.
Sowell "Barrack Obama was the worst president in the history of america".
ITS ALMOST AS IF SOWELL HAS SOME SORT OF RIGHT WING AGENDA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HES A RACIST LIAR.
STOP BELIEVING HIM!!!!
It is heartening, isn't it? I used to listen to Sowell and William when they guest hosted Rush's radio show. I didn't even know they were black until they said they were on air. Always looked forward to hearing their brilliance.
To be fair, it’s almost all intellectually bias off their feelings. This would be all NEW information to them and it may very well drive an emotional based response. A few of them were left speechless at times because the realization hit that a large portion of history (objectively, politically centered bias taught history) was left out of what they’ve been spoon fed by the the state their entire lives.
There’s a lot of nuance to be broken up and dismantled mentally speaking. 5th generational ware fare involves dividing the social structure through in-fighting.
The Soviets studied it through their term and saw the rise and fall in effect. It only takes a few generations of propaganda to push a revolution and it generally starts with using the emotions of the marginalized to garner leeway.
Even if we’re looking at this through a racial standpoint, this was a tactic that whites used against whites. It was perfected over the years and specifically highlighted on grapes and political issues to raise social awareness and power structure.
Keep in mind that the Nazis convinced an entire nation that it was the Jews that were at fault for all of their problems. They didn’t just come out of nowhere. Social influence and propaganda goes along way, and the point that the right makes is that historically speaking, they always start with the basic fundamentals of freedoms. The freedom to self preservation (staying strapped and armed) to freedom of speech.
Those are the two main things at the moment being attacked fundamentally speaking in our country’s culture. The fact of the matter is, we are technically in a cultural war with ourselves. It may not seem that is that big of a deal, because bloodshed isn’t was being sacrificed at the moment, but politics, run downstream from culture and politics initiate literal Civil War. Remember, this win Texas beefs with California over some BS that we see as insequential, like two parents splitting up, and the mother running off to California, and grooming their boy to transition into a girl. Does the dad have any say on that dynamic? He does in his state, but the problem lies when she bounces to California for protection.
California Macy that is kidnapping and since the child’s livelihood (future reproductive organs) are at stake that playing to this child’s future will being… is the father just f*cked and has no saying in his child’s future?
There’s a lot of gray area that’s coming more to light, that the more is normalized will further the issue into a snowball effect. At some point, the states will get involved, because they are responsible for their people and as you know, the states are in agreements with one another with fundamental livelihoods.
All in all it’s a perfect concoction for Civil War. It’s only going to take one storyline and media following.
@@kyleblankenship6183 You should condense what you write. Less is more.
@@kyleblankenship6183 You make some valid points, yet your writing composition is subpar.
If you are trying to convince don't use:
To be fair, A few of them, There’s a lot of nuance, Keep in mind, There’s a lot of gray area, At some point, All in all.
You men facilitate a valuable platform for many of us both inside & out of the Black communities. I’m a 75 yr old who voted Democrat for 50yrs because I admired President Kennedy & his brother Robert when I was a young teen. If I knew what I’ve learned from podcasts like yours and a few others I would have been paying a lot more attention to whom and for what what I placed my votes. Keep up the great work gentlemen! You make learning fun. 🎉
About time u get the red pill😂😂 congrats but red is not perfect...😂
Red is not perfect by any means… but blue is batshit crazy and continually pushes division.
I just have a hard time fathoming how someone could vote for a candidate without researching all of their platform and positions.
The DNC are still the party of Jim Crow
They barely try to hide it anymore
@benjaminhunt8307
Please don’t fall for the nonsense perpetuated by Thomas Sowell. Please research the works of W E Dubois Martin Luther King Thurgood Marshall Paul Robeson and many many others who fought against the systemic oppression and racism that embodied this country for 400 years. Thomas Sowell is the black apologist for the systemic racism that has plagued this country for hundreds of years.
So right you are Benjamin. People ARE waking up. We can only take so much bs. United we stand, divided we fall.
Excellent historical information! Love the debate and discussion! EDUCATION is the key! This should be taught starting in elementary schools. I was educated in the 60’’s and 70’s and we were lied to!! I’m so fortunate to have “freed my mind” and educated myself through black writers and cultural diversity! I’m a 66 year old white woman who’s BEST friend since 1972 is black, my sistah, and her well educated parents who broke ceilings taught me so much! PTTP, right on. Going to watch more with you now. ☮️😘✊
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How were you lied to?
Love you are all willing to listen to the truth. Keep these wonderful videos coming as this could educate and bring us all together with compassion and understanding.🤔❤️
Brandon would make a great teacher and mentor, he has great understanding. I love watching these videos. I am learning from you all.
100% agree.
I like all of them, but Brandon definitely has a curious mind and I agree. He doesn't get all of his facts straight, but that's to be expected at his age. You can only retain so much information going down the rabbit hole, but he's definitely thirsty for knowledge and does a great job articulating his thoughts. He'll be a great Dad one day.
Yes, i see him as a professor of some sort... very bright young man.
Brandon taught me how to love a woman
Brandon would make a great teacher, and it would be a tragic under-utilization of his talents.
Thomas Sowell is one of the greatest minds of our times. I wish he would get more recognition for his brilliance.
You men are building a bridge within this country. Much respect
I love watching people excited and engaged in thoughtful open discussion- impassioned young people with the fortitude to fully examine together what they think they know and believe are going to make the positive progress we need in the world.
So refreshing to see a group of educated black young men educating themselves. Thank you. I love listening to you.
Yes, I need to get out more often I’m sure there has to be millions of educated young black people out there. This is what I hear. Great job Tom!
The guy in the back is a libtard though. Missed the point several times. The point about deceases was not to compare it with slavery, was to show that its illogical to think european people were invading africa and enslaving people at that time, since it was literally impossible due to weather and deceases. That implies the slaves were brought by africans themselves and sold at the coastline.....not conquered directly by the Europeans. African people enslaved its own people first.
Why is it refreshing? What is your inference there? Racism can be subtle can't it?
If they were educated, they would KNOW all about this, already. They don't. I love Tom Sowell.
@@B1B904So subtle, that some days it isn't even there. Fortunately we can always rely on someone to see it.
In my opinion, Thomas Sowell is one of the smartest people our country has ever produced. You guys had a very good discussion here. It gives me hope.
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Then why does he constantly lie, lies by ommision, misrepresents facts and leaves out context just so he can tapdance for white supremacists?
The man is a national treasure
@@jn8604 that's what I was gonna say
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I enjoy the journey of y'all's content. Great convo, good thinking points, eye opening stuff. 👍🏼
Thomas Sowell has acquired a massive amount of knowledge in long life ! Salute!!
I have been learning a lot with you guys! Also, love the reaction videos of 80’s and 90’s rock!!
This is a great video!
I’m a 59 year old white woman, and I hate to hear people my age and older put down young people. These guys are great! They’re thoughtful, intelligent and willing to learn. What more could you ask for? I love seeing young people figuring out life! There are more of these kind of young people than there are of the bad ones. But only the bad ones make the news. So older, lazy people assume ALL young people are like the ones on the news!
Love you guys! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Same age; same life philosophy! Preach it forward!❤❤❤
55 year old white man here, could not agree more.
I agree 63 year old. Very refreshing. Just keep spreading the news😊
And the truth will set us all free❤
He’s in his 90’s now. It’s sad we will lose him in my lifetime. He’s a very good person
So many intelligent, kennel headed people are passing soon. It's sad, and infuriating.
Listen to a brilliant, honest man like Thomas Sowell to learn the truth.
I say everybody would have better opportunities if we all been together and do the right thing AMEN