So basically your patron gets pissed if you can’t get into the circus so it can vicariously live through you? They have the temper of an 8-year-old and I love it
i LOVED how responsive my patron was during this part! like, ive made up stories for them in my head. Theyre basically the epitome of "do NOT assume that fairies are the safe option." but one look at this place and theyre a feral gremlin child yelling "CIRMCUS????" and trying to eat all the fairyfloss. i fucking love it
Compared to devils and the great Other, faeries are most definitely the safe option. The chances of secretly working to bring about the end of humanity or enslave all living things are a lot lower.
I love how the text is in *nice big bold letters,* suggesting we're either yelling at this poor bastard, or our patron is speaking with us in a booming voice just to show off their authority.
Hello again. I remember you ^^ it has been a few years, and I am very surprised to see you in a random UA-cam video X3 I just am trying not to reveal stuff in public, but am saying hello ^^
I didn’t get any mention of my old one patron, and I thoroughly combed over the circus. Can you bring up an example of the Great Old One expressing his disdain for the circus? Or is this just your head cannon for not getting any dialogue options?
@@ladonmccabe After dribbles has finished doing his jokes and calls for an audience assist, theres a warlock prompt that if you select it, the narrator explicitly says "Your patron does not trust this clown. Not. One. Bit." Afterwards you'll get an insight check with advantage(courtesy of your patron). If you pass(and its almost impossible to fail), you find out that your Great Old One patron just doesnt like clowns. They dont even bother telling you Dribbles is a fake
@@ladonmccabe During dribbles' show the narrator says your patron doesn't trust the clown. Passing a related ability check will reveal dribbles' eyes are "brimming with evil intent" and allow you to attack him straight away instead of sending someone on stage.
Tav: Listen man, believe it or not, I’m the nice one in this case. Klaus: Who’s the mean one? ArchFey: Welcome to the Feywild, we got fun and games, we got anything you’d want and now we got your name.
"Unless you seek the wrath of the Seelie Court, you will let me pass" XD I love it. Of course the fey patron wants to enter the feywild circus, probably reminds them of their childhood lol
@@jamesvivian2855 No. They are not. People always get this wrong. They are just as bad as the Unseelie. They are just "fairer". Prettier. Lighter. Terry Pratchett had an amazing bit about this.
"I don't understand why fey can be so feared, compared with devils, demons, undeads, etc..." (three weeks later, after finishing Pathfinder Kingmaker) "Ahhh... so that's why!"
The seelie fey in DnD are less... antipathic that the ones in pathfinder but no less capricious and dangerous. Giving an emotional 12 year old who is fond of making mischief the power of a supreme being is still dangerous and prone to horrible or deadly outcomes regardless of intent.
I think the best part about the circus is that my Warlock had the Great Old One patron, and when you go to see the clown at the end, your patron is unsettled by him.
My warlocks patron would pull some shit like that. The pact basically dictates that she gets to share my warlocks senses, and she would be absolutely*incensed* at being refused entry into a circus (backstory shenanigans).
Maybe! All the Redcaps walking around, and the conversation outside between a guard and performer about escaped one, might also have been part of it. Though, it may just be the Dryad and Redcaps in general setting the patron off.
I was thinking that Madame Lucretious might be a fae? At one point she mentioned being wayyyyy older than whatever powers my Warlock was fearing. (Or something to that effect.)
Ah do you also think it got cut? When I read that letter from Ethel’s sister J thought that meant we were gonna have to defeat a whole coven of hags. I was super disappointed to find it was just Ethel again.
Good? eeeeeh....Any given Fey's moral compass tends to be a bit more...multi-dimensional...compared to a silly mortal's. Definitely not evil, at least. Nice? Well...nicer. More liable to being nice. Depends on their mood. Which is generally nicer than those other fey. Usually. At the very least, when they intend to be nice, they most assuredly believe they are being nice. They didn't know that that little blessing they gave you would turn your skin plaid colored. Who could know it'd have that side-effect on mortals? Don't worry, it'll wash off, I'm sure. Pretty funny, though. :)
No. They are not. Maybe in DnD? But in actual mythology, they could and would be just as evil. Just as the Unseelie could be good. Light and dark did NOT mean good n bad.
This was the best :D I was really happy with how the archfey got involved during the game. The second best thing for me (maybe spoiler) was when you could magically steal a blessing from shar for your patron, while pretending to pray. So many details for each class and character.
OH MAN I was JUST at the shrine building. I have a video coming out for a Selune prayer, but I wish I'd poked around longer to get this. I'll have to go back! Unless... it's later on? I'll have to see!
@@elanor.nightingale hmm... I don't exactly remember, but I'm pretty sure it was the shar temple. There's some sharen rats in interesting places... But what happens with the selune prayer? where? :O Seems like I missed that
To speak with the authority of the Seelie Court would require some deception - either convincing them, or convincing yourself. That and I'm pretty sure our fickle fey friend will probably forget about it in 6 seconds.
i want to see what my fiend patron has to say on the circus but since the game wont even let me choose what kind of fiend it is i have a horrible feeling it wont be much or wont be any good alllll the devil stuff in BG3 yet they wont even afford the fiend warlock a clear statement of being a devil or not between that and the lackluster even by 5e standards necromancy ive been too disappointed by this game so many times in just the first act that ive lost the will to go further
How often did you get patron specific options? Did it feel like there was an actual being watching over you throughout the game, or was it just occasional class specific options that were more about your magic then the being you got it from?
Most Warlock-related stuff is generic, meaning you get the same option no matter your patron. This is the first instance I've seen where the patron matters during dialogue.
So basically your patron gets pissed if you can’t get into the circus so it can vicariously live through you? They have the temper of an 8-year-old and I love it
I picked ancient patron and it was very suspicious about clown. Turns out it was completely correct.
The Fey Patron's intuition has come in handy more than a few times! It's been a good second opinion for the NPCs I get sus of lol
@@elanor.nightingale my current Durge resist run is a Fey Warlock, this should be fun.
The temper of an 8 year old should be pretty well expected of a fey patron.
Yeah, fey in a nutshell
“I won’t let you into the circus.”
Patron: *Announces his IP Address*
LMFAO YES
I’d like to assume that the discord pings are the way warlocks patrons communicate with them
"@Warlock Listen, I gave you admin permissions. Don't make me take it away!"
They are now
"Guys please stop worshipping on #general"
i LOVED how responsive my patron was during this part! like, ive made up stories for them in my head. Theyre basically the epitome of "do NOT assume that fairies are the safe option." but one look at this place and theyre a feral gremlin child yelling "CIRMCUS????" and trying to eat all the fairyfloss. i fucking love it
Me too! I feel like the Fey Warlock is SUPER underrated when I see people chatting about their background/class focus.
Compared to devils and the great Other, faeries are most definitely the safe option. The chances of secretly working to bring about the end of humanity or enslave all living things are a lot lower.
@@elanor.nightingale I just miss that you can't pick a specific patron. One idea I've had for tabletop is a pact blade Knight of Oberon.
I too am like a feral child when it comes to the circus
And eat all the cotton candy
And pass out from too much candy.
Mhahahahahahaaaaaa
You should be able to design your patron like the “guardian” and at least have a few scenes with them
I love how the text is in *nice big bold letters,* suggesting we're either yelling at this poor bastard, or our patron is speaking with us in a booming voice just to show off their authority.
Hello again. I remember you ^^ it has been a few years, and I am very surprised to see you in a random UA-cam video X3 I just am trying not to reveal stuff in public, but am saying hello ^^
I'm surprised it's a deception roll rather than an intimidation roll
@@joeltsenior6336 Methinks you or your patron is just bluffing rather than actually threatening them.
Did someone say... AUTHORITY? 😆
Patron casts thaumaturgy on you
This guy: Sorry you can't enter.
Archfey patron: Listen here you little shit-
So each patron has a different reaction to the circus.
My Great Old One did not like it one bit. The clown, of all things, freaked them out.
I didn’t get any mention of my old one patron, and I thoroughly combed over the circus. Can you bring up an example of the Great Old One expressing his disdain for the circus? Or is this just your head cannon for not getting any dialogue options?
@@ladonmccabe After dribbles has finished doing his jokes and calls for an audience assist, theres a warlock prompt that if you select it, the narrator explicitly says "Your patron does not trust this clown. Not. One. Bit."
Afterwards you'll get an insight check with advantage(courtesy of your patron). If you pass(and its almost impossible to fail), you find out that your Great Old One patron just doesnt like clowns. They dont even bother telling you Dribbles is a fake
@@ladonmccabe During dribbles' show the narrator says your patron doesn't trust the clown. Passing a related ability check will reveal dribbles' eyes are "brimming with evil intent" and allow you to attack him straight away instead of sending someone on stage.
@@ladonmccabe The amount of snark for someone who missed dialogue despite having "thoroughly combed over the circus." is palpable.
@@ladonmccabe, have you found it yet or is it taking you longer than expected to thoroughly comb through it again?
Tav: Listen man, believe it or not, I’m the nice one in this case.
Klaus: Who’s the mean one?
ArchFey: Welcome to the Feywild, we got fun and games, we got anything you’d want and now we got your name.
This to the tune of welcome to the internet is so unsettling I love it
@@cybersearcher1041I heard it as welcome to the jungle and fuck me that's scary
@@Christopher-eq1rn It scans either way and somehow I didn't notice that about Bo's until this precise minute
Fey Patron in your discord notifications.
"Unless you seek the wrath of the Seelie Court, you will let me pass" XD I love it. Of course the fey patron wants to enter the feywild circus, probably reminds them of their childhood lol
As soon as I got the tidbit I immediately know I was gonna grab whatever the Patron's help was lol
The scary thing is the Seelie Court are the nice type of fey.
@@jamesvivian2855 No. They are not. People always get this wrong. They are just as bad as the Unseelie. They are just "fairer". Prettier. Lighter. Terry Pratchett had an amazing bit about this.
Oh, so that's what Benji says to non-Dark Urge? For Urge, Benji just goes "BLOOD! DELICOUS BLOOD! AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!"
That second he takes before he greets you hits me so hard as a former service worker
"I don't understand why fey can be so feared, compared with devils, demons, undeads, etc..."
(three weeks later, after finishing Pathfinder Kingmaker)
"Ahhh... so that's why!"
The seelie fey in DnD are less... antipathic that the ones in pathfinder but no less capricious and dangerous. Giving an emotional 12 year old who is fond of making mischief the power of a supreme being is still dangerous and prone to horrible or deadly outcomes regardless of intent.
Pathfinder player highfive!
The fey circus is a good time.
It's the fey theatre you want to avoid.
oh I know what you did there :D
Funny thing is, generic warlock response has a better chance of success than fey warlock response
yes, because convincing omeone that you are a new hire is WAY easier than to convince them that you have a council of demi-gods backing you
Not true, the Fey one gives you advantage.
@@ACP13. But it may still have a higher DC.
I think the best part about the circus is that my Warlock had the Great Old One patron, and when you go to see the clown at the end, your patron is unsettled by him.
My warlocks patron would pull some shit like that. The pact basically dictates that she gets to share my warlocks senses, and she would be absolutely*incensed* at being refused entry into a circus (backstory shenanigans).
Wait did the narrator say the entire circus is brimming with Fey magic? Could this be where Ethel’s hag sister was supposed to be before it got cut?
Maybe! All the Redcaps walking around, and the conversation outside between a guard and performer about escaped one, might also have been part of it.
Though, it may just be the Dryad and Redcaps in general setting the patron off.
I was thinking that Madame Lucretious might be a fae? At one point she mentioned being wayyyyy older than whatever powers my Warlock was fearing. (Or something to that effect.)
@@EEdwardNigma also! if you left the redcaps alive in the swamp in act 1, they are at the circus saying that they miss the hag lol
Ah do you also think it got cut? When I read that letter from Ethel’s sister J thought that meant we were gonna have to defeat a whole coven of hags. I was super disappointed to find it was just Ethel again.
@@Hailoow Yeah I figured maybe they knew Ethel was in the city so they came looking for her, but got hired by the circus instead
I do wish the patrons had more dedicated interactions
Confirms that your fey patron is GOOD, too! So thanks for posting! (Seelie are the nice ones.)
Good? eeeeeh....Any given Fey's moral compass tends to be a bit more...multi-dimensional...compared to a silly mortal's. Definitely not evil, at least. Nice? Well...nicer. More liable to being nice. Depends on their mood. Which is generally nicer than those other fey. Usually. At the very least, when they intend to be nice, they most assuredly believe they are being nice. They didn't know that that little blessing they gave you would turn your skin plaid colored. Who could know it'd have that side-effect on mortals? Don't worry, it'll wash off, I'm sure. Pretty funny, though. :)
Notice that it's deception and not persuasion
No. They are not. Maybe in DnD? But in actual mythology, they could and would be just as evil. Just as the Unseelie could be good. Light and dark did NOT mean good n bad.
Can we talk about how they just walked right through that closed gate at 0:32
I thought it was hilarious, and criminal how few people are talking about it
I just assumed it was magical and an illusion like many other fake walls/doors
@@elenalizabeth those are the gates to the circus, so they entered the cutscene to get into the circus by walking out of the circus, lol
This was the best :D I was really happy with how the archfey got involved during the game. The second best thing for me (maybe spoiler)
was when you could magically steal a blessing from shar for your patron, while pretending to pray. So many details for each class and character.
OH MAN I was JUST at the shrine building. I have a video coming out for a Selune prayer, but I wish I'd poked around longer to get this. I'll have to go back!
Unless... it's later on? I'll have to see!
@@elanor.nightingale hmm... I don't exactly remember, but I'm pretty sure it was the shar temple. There's some sharen rats in interesting places... But what happens with the selune prayer? where? :O Seems like I missed that
@@colorfulsomething5008i gotchu girlie it’s under the giant statue in the main square by moonrise - where you fight oliver and the shadows!!
this is why you dont fuck with the fey.
Lol. The Discord pings keep tricking me.
Klaus looks like the drow twinbrother of Lady Nim.
Ironically, my Emperor!Elf uses the same face card lol
Dude, mute your discord if you record
Discord patron
I remember doing this part with my archfey warlock! It was so fun! :D
Oh shit, so there is Patron material in this? Well damn, gonna have to work on my baby Warlock!
I only took fey patron warlock as a multiclass JUST before this and it instantly endeared me to it lol
Discord notification sounds driving me insane.
😬
1:16 _ooooh no i dont like that look_
*we not just gonna question you going through the gate like an ooze through the wooden floor boards*
the discord notifications had me thinking i was getting messages
your Tav is so pretty ❤❤❤❤
Thank you! ♥️
1:59 this seems like more like an intimidation roll than a deception roll
To speak with the authority of the Seelie Court would require some deception - either convincing them, or convincing yourself.
That and I'm pretty sure our fickle fey friend will probably forget about it in 6 seconds.
no point in playing warlock or cleric if you never see your god :( atleast a voiceline would be good to hear
i want to see what my fiend patron has to say on the circus but since the game wont even let me choose what kind of fiend it is i have a horrible feeling it wont be much or wont be any good
alllll the devil stuff in BG3 yet they wont even afford the fiend warlock a clear statement of being a devil or not
between that and the lackluster even by 5e standards necromancy ive been too disappointed by this game so many times in just the first act that ive lost the will to go further
How often did you get patron specific options? Did it feel like there was an actual being watching over you throughout the game, or was it just occasional class specific options that were more about your magic then the being you got it from?
Most Warlock-related stuff is generic, meaning you get the same option no matter your patron. This is the first instance I've seen where the patron matters during dialogue.
@@tear4442 thanks. Disappointing but informative. Now I'm less interested in devoting a whole play through to a warlock to just to see the reactivity
Oof. Klaus is giving me Dammon 2. Always out of reach 😔