S-Log2 is EASY! Tips, Workflow and free LUTs
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2024
- Color grading LOG footage on 8-bit cameras | tips and workflow on S-Log2
How to shoot in S-log2 with 8-bit cameras? Picture profile settings for S-Log2, exposing S-Log2, LUTs for S-Log2, colour correction and grading of S-Log2 on cameras like Sony a7 III, a6400, a6600, a7s 2, and other 8-bit cameras. Enjoy watching!
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Videos from this episode:
- Slog3 workflow - • S-Log3 color grading, ...
- a6300 vs a7s 2 vs a7s 3 vs FS7 - • I BET you didn't expec...
- Sony a7 III vs a7s III vs Z-cam E2 - • Cleaner image at ANY I...
00:00 - Slog-2 Workflow tutorial
00:23 - 8-bit vs 10-bit difference
01:04 - Why use S-log2 vs S-log3
01:30 - Best S-log2 settings on 8-bit camera
01:50 - How to expose LOG
02:50 - S-log2 LUTs and monitoring
03:36 - White Balance with S-log2
03:51 - Colour correction and grading of LOG footage
04:30 - Don't be afraid to use S-log2 on 8-bit cameras
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I feel like I found a treasure. I could never color correct or grade slog2 properly. So I completely stopped shooting in slog2. Two days ago I found your video and gave it a try in a professional video shoot. It came out mind blowing. Can't thank you enough for this...
Hey)) thank you) I’m really glad I helped you) stay tuned, mate) there is a lot of good content on the channel)
So what changes did you bring that completely changed your game?
Such an information dense video with absolutely 0 clickbait and nonsense. Love it.
Thanks mate) I appreciate it! Stay tuned)
I've been playing with picture profiles and settings for months now and never thought S-Log would make this huge of a difference! Super clear and concise tutorial! I watched a few others but you nailed it way better and I was able to replicate it exactly and learn really well! Thank you so much! You are an amazing creator!
Thank you, bro)) I appreciate it a lot! Stay tuned!
I think after years someone actually explained it in an understandable way. Thanks man 😃
Welcome mate) stay tuned)
Hahahaha true
By far the best video on the subject I've seen so far!
Just got a a6300 and gave up on slog. Will try this!
Thanks mate! I appreciate it! Stay tuned)
I am a travel creator active in Korea. I haven't been able to find a proper video so far, so it was hard to do SLOG color gradation, but thanks to you, I was able to do color gradation easily. Thank you so much :D
You’re welcome my friend))) greetings from Russia, stay tuned 😉
This is gold, finally the best explanation in all youtube! Thank u very much
Thank you Adrian! I appreciate your words! Stay tuned!
For real!
your content was the best content on plant earth. tnx so much... i wanted to get a7c and i was looking for someone teaching me the shooting and editing process tnx bro. love you
Thanks bro)) I’m glad! Stay tuned)
I shoot with an a7S III but my buddy shoots with my old a7 III, and we've been using the same S-Log3 S-Gamut3.Cine PP for both, but you've made me rethink what we're doing. I also just got an Atomos Shinobi, so I might give those LUTs a try. Thanks for these videos!
Thanks for watching! Stay tuned!
Is it just me or is this channel super underrated? What a joke, This guy is FIRE!
Thank you Owen! I appreciate it)) it’s growing, but not that fast)
I was struggling with picture profiles a while now, i mostly tried HGL3 because of 8 bit camera but since i found this video i finally can use S-Log2. Your LUT's are amazing!
Thank You!
Thanks bro)) I’m glad! But the LUT is not mine, it’s made by Alister Chapman 🤗
Один из самых информативных роликов! Спасибо!
Great video! Thank you for making this easier to understand!
Thank you)) I’m glad! Stay tuned)))
Very useful video. Clear information, thanks !
Welcome Frederick) stay tuned)
Good job on this video sir. I stopped color grading, I simply use the Landscape scene profile with my Sony ZV-1. It makes colors pop and adds contrast but at the cost of needing more subject lighting
Thank you! Interesting point) What about dynamic range in this profile?
thank you , concise and clear!
Thanks mate) stay tuned)
Thankyou man, you really help much 😄👍
Welcome) stay tuned)
really helpful video thank you so much
Welcome mate) stay tuned)
Thank you so much
it was really helpful, thank you
Thanks) stay tuned!
Thank you for this video. I'm waiting for my a6500 to arrive, and this will help me work with the 8-bit footage. Subscribing.
Thank you)) I really appreciate it ☺️
Thank you for the video. It was very helpfull
Welcome) stay tuned)
Wooow great video👍, Greetings from London 🇬🇧
Thanks mate)) Stay tined)
Great video thanks!
Welcome! Stay tuned!
Which picture profile do you use with your 8-bit cameras?
#LOG #Sony #SLOG2 #SLOGWORKFLOW #HOWTOSHOOTSLOG
Would you apply this to a Panasonic camera that shoots in flat of cine like-d?
@@phantomfrequency6621 absolutely yes) to any log footage
HLG2
HLG3. I find it frustrating that there is not as much HLG content haha.
Great video!!! Thanks!!!
Welcome, stay tuned))
Thanks you a lots ! I find solution for my A7SII & ZVE10 8bits camera 🙏👍
Welcome) stay tuned)
Nice vid, братуха! Very helpful, keep it on
Thanks mate! Stay tuned!
Holy shet i tried it and absolutely blown away by the result. Thank you so much now i can shoot slog 2 without completely lost in the grading states 😂😭
Thanks mate) stay tuned! Glad you enjoyed it)
thanks for all the links in the bio, you really know your stuff. #Subscribed
Thanks bro) stay tuned)
I am just learning this stuff for my hobby channel. I found slog2 to be quite good as well on my a6400. In my latest video I realised I don't have to be afraid of noise, I bought a copy of neat video noise remover and for me it feels like magic that does impossible things.
thanks a lot for LUTs
Welcome, mate! Stay tuned!
i have sony a7r3 camera and i'm shooting video with that, which is the best video settings and log settings too.
thank you.
thanks for sharing
Welcome mate) stay tuned)
This is great! I'm looking for tutorial on settings for 8 bit on the nikon z6 ii.
Hey! Thanks... I didn't try out Nikon cameras for video... but who knows)) Maybe one day)
I have found that boosting the saturation on camera using pp settings helps with some of the blocky artifacts that I had on my a7r3.
Sounds fare)
@@NOlimitsON Hello, yes, I also have that question. Slog2 with SGamut3.cine in 8bit recommend +32 saturation so that in post-production there is a better result ... in 10bit they recommend +15 saturation. Someone has tried?
@@SergioPellico tried. I get best results with Sony 8bit footage by using slog2 and itu709, ire107+. No sat boosting!
@@AlbertKarhuFilms THANKS!!!
I heard about this else where. In theory it makes sense when you think about it. I’m gonna try it. So interesting, it’s opposite of what log style profiles preach. However, with 8 bit we are talking about something different here. If some one makes a video of trying to prove this theory to us, that would rock.
can we get a test footage to try out same color graing technique that u tried?
Very good video holy shit I have been struggling with this for 3 years and I didn't know why I was getting grain in my shadows
Thanks mate) enjoy and stay tuned)
Thank you so much for the awesome video. Very clearly explained. I still had a doubt. When you are shooting outdoors in a slightly dynamic environment, won't we need to keep changing the Zebra limits and keep on changing the settings to overexpose every scene correctly? How efficient is this?
Hey) welcome) I find the 95 zebra setting appropriate in all kinds of shooting scenarios and see no reason not to shoot in slog2 😉
старый добрый приём победить постеризацию, известный в компоузе еще с палеолита, это наложить очень легкий шум (дизер) перед цветокоррекцией.
Hiii!!! This video was amazing!! extremely clear and illustrative! helped me lots!!!
I really hope you respond 😩😂
I have the A7ii, Does these settings work the same even if i’m shooting at 1080p? Or how does it change?
I really need help hahahah
Hey! Thanks! Absolutely the same)
THANKS YOU
Welcome) stay tuned)
good content man...one doubt, If I shoot on 1080 slow mo combining with the 4k 100mb will there be in consistency on post??
Thanks) the sharpness of 1080p slow Motion wouldn’t be so great, and the footage might start falling apart from the heavy color grading sooner than 4K
Thanks a lot for sharing and creating! Very helpful and relevant, even years after your upload. I record morning to evening in a very dynamic environment, I vlog leaving the house, grabbbing the elevator, then metro, again outside in harsh light conditions, office, gym, etc. How can I have some sort of run and gun setup with my ZV-E10 as I clearly want to keep SLOG2? Or perhaps there is no way to do this and slog2 is for a more controlled environment or studio? And if so, what should I use for all the other multitude of scenes? Perhaps Picture profile off and something flat from settings. Thanks a lot in advance!
Hey)) thanks a lot! To be honest, when you master the WB and exposure with Slog2 - it’s quiet easy to use) practice makes perfect)
@@NOlimitsON Thanks man! I will give it a try but the one additional question remains. If I do go and play with Slog2 in all these different scenarios, how should the ISO be set up? A range? But then it flickers. Can’t be fixed? Fixed values for every different scene? I really appreciate the support
i have the sony a6300 too =)
Recording externally will automatically solve like 85% of the issues people face while grading 8bit log footage. I'm assuming you anyways use your atomos to record prores 4:2:2 which is a much more forgiving codec compared to the shitty 100mbps h.264 codec, which is pretty much unusable for scenes that actually require s-log 2 DR.
OMG why don't you have a million views yet???????
Thanx! That's the way UA-cam works unfortunately... stay tuned!
This makes me hold The a7iii longer. Im about to sell IT For S5 but man i got to try this technigue
Sounds great) stay tuned mate)
In my opinion, if i have the 8-bit camera, the sLog2 can make some bad lines on my footage when i color grade but the cine4 with pp8 does not make this problem so what do you think? And do you still choose slog2 than the cine4?
I’d still choose slog2
If I can make a suggestion. Please upload a short clip of Slog2 footage so we can download it and color grade along with you.
Yeah, that’s a good point. I have a video about a7s 3 and ProRes raw and Slog3 - there are some links to the footage)
nice info bruh, but i cant using a log profile cause my camera is A6000, can you make a tips too for using a neutral mode:) i will appreciate that
You can just use neutral color and grade it a bit in post, it’ll be fine
Interested ,thanks ...i use the RX100 M7 so this is useful .PP7 with adjustments seems the best ?
Thanks) the PP number is just a container, so you can set any PP you like (PP1 for example), in the same way as PP7
@@NOlimitsON Thanks
Can you please share best picture profile settings for Sony a6400
I’ve just shown it in the video)) in my opinion these are the best settings for a6400 as well
Thank you for the video. I want to shoot at slog 2 and i have a question. I should increase exposure by +2 in the camera settings, right?
Thanks) yes, as I show in the video
@@NOlimitsON ok thank you. Slog2 is the best for a6400 i think. iso 6400 is the maximum value?
@@mordavian no, you can go up to 12800 with it and you'll get decent results as long as you expose correctly as I show in the video.
hi, great video
is ISO 6400 maximum usable ISO for 8bit video at this setting.?
thank you very much for the answer :)
Hey)) I think it’s more about proper exposure. Even 6400 is more than okay
@@NOlimitsON thank you for the quick reply ;)
What is the best setting for shooting log with a6400
The one I show in the video, bro)
Sorry I'm new to this but I have the Sony ZV-E10. When using Slog2, what is the exposure using Zebra IRE for interior house tour? still 95? or 65? or 32? how to determine?
I'd suggest using zebra at 95 and expose as bright as possible without clipping the highlights
Not sure if you're gonna reply but does auto Iso consider bad option to use here and does it generate more noise if i limit it between 800 and 6400? What if I want to capture a building or a car.. if over expouse for the car the sky will be blown out.. what should i do here??
Hi! I wouldn’t use auto iso, it’s too unpredictable… as I said in the video - you have to decide for what to expose every shot - you want the sky to have detail - expose for the sky, if don’t care about the sky being blown out - expose for the shadows and so on…
Hello, thanks for this immense explanations but How do you guys Got that EV+2? my camera doesn't allow that under Manual ISO... but it worked under AUTO ISO ... which way to go.. i want to experiment this on my Sony a7s ii ... thanks a lot.. within a sincere heart
You can dial it in manually)) with shutter speed, aperture and ISO.
@@NOlimitsON really? I have just tried to Use it manually as you said. so the idea is to try to keep that EV stuck on +2 right? second thing. it looks so bright kinda flat... I have a Ninja Inferno will that lut upload on it.. will it help me to use it a side to determine the final look? like how it will be looking at the end? , I will have to practice this weekend.. I will keep you updated. keep well thanks a lot'
@@NOlimitsON Just an other quick question. I have tried manually as well, but i have an other question. can you advice me using the ISO on Auto? as it locks the EV on +2. in case am shooting out side and doing some walking or turning around.. don't you think that my Ev.. will be changing automatically whilst my settings are on manual focus... am new in this I have just need some more inputs. i'm really happy so far' thanks again
Hmm I shoot everything with my a7iii in s-log 3, and then colorgrade in davinci and it looks great, I don’t really understand why you would choose for s-log 2?
Because with 8-bit cameras slog3 is too flat and it’s much easier to get artifacts when grading. It’s possible to make slog3 on 8-bit camera look great, but after a lot of tests I came to a conclusion that slog2 gives much cleaner results
If I use the slog2/3 in low-light scenario it get a lot of noise in the footage compare the cine4/2 or hlg pp. What you think about it
It’s up to you, but if you expose slog as I show in this video you’ll get good results after grading
One last question which picture profile should use for Sony 8bit camera line-up because I'm still have dialamo on slog2 vs cine 4
@@MadrasMic I told everything about it in this video) If you're scared - use PP1 Movie Gamma and Movie Color
On my Sony ZV-1 PP7-Slog 2 comes with default setting S-Gamut. Shall I leave it or setup S-Gamut 3 ???
I’d use either s-gamut3.cine or even PP1 Movie Color Movie gamma)
I think my a6600 uses slog2 with 8 bit which package would you recommend i download
The one that’s in the description 😉
Caleb from DSLR Video Shooter recoments the ITU709 matrix above the S-Gamut3.Cine. Why do you use the S-Gamut3 above the ITU709 matrix? How do you get such a good skin tones with the a6300?
Well, I found that my settings work best for me) the key to a good skin-tone is proper white balance and exposure - nothing too hard)
@@NOlimitsON THX man, I made some mistakes in my confusing message above. I meant the ITU709 matrix not the S-Gamut3.Cine. Youre skin tones and colors look good. So I was wondering about it..... Calleb made this video called = Why Sony Video Color SUCKS and How to FIX IT! I don't see the banding or the artefacts he mentions in youre video.
@@flapdance well, it means that both of our approaches are working good)
Hi there I'm a bit confused about the exposing with zebras. So basically for zebra 95 should I just turn up the exposure as bright as I could and stop at the max exposure as long as the zebra appears at the brightest highlight part?
Hi) exactly
@@NOlimitsONthanks for the info. Love your work!
Does it make a difference if you record in 1080 or 4k?, (as well as slog 2) does the file size difference mean less color/exposure data to work with? the bigger file res the better or can you get away doing 1080 slog 2 and all that? thank you :)
I shoot in 4K 95% of the time and to my eye the grading of 4K footage looks better) but 1080 is also ok if you don’t need 4K
@@NOlimitsON oh wow amazing info yea this took a huge height off my shoulders thank you so so much !!! 🙌🙌
@@edwino902 welcome, bro)
Does make sens to shoot dark scenarios with SLoG2?
As I said in the video - it does, if you expose correctly, but in general the dynamic range at night isn’t that big and important and you’ll be okay with using something like Movie Color and Movie Gamma if you’re afraid of messing up the exposure in Slog2
Absolutely great results in your video can you please explain when exposing using zebras vs ev if the zebra still shows and ev drops below +2 how do you expose in this instance..Also color phase should it be +2? Knee and gamma i guess its auto / default.In the ending did you shoot 60fps 1080? How did you maintain still good details or was it 4k 24p and slowed in post? Thanks ive subscribed
Hi) thanks! You have to prioritize zebras - E.V. Is just a point of reference. Color phase at +2 reduces the green, I’d prefer to keep leave the color phase at +2. Knee and gamma are default. The last shot is shot on the a7s3 in 4K 50p - just for the beauty of the image 😅
My question is: am I gonna have a color bending using the S-log2 on A73 I wanna know If i will have color bending even if it's small, and second which on is better of retaining details in highlights HLG3 or S-lo2 with non bending at all on sony a73 because I hate color bending
It depends on you color grading, if you wanna oversaturate a lot - you’ll get banding for sure, but if like color in my video and grade in a similar way - you’ll be fine in 95% of shooting scenarios)
@@NOlimitsON and how about the HLG3 on sony A73 or any 8 bit color camera can I boost the saturation and make a deep coloring grading without color bending? or the same problem of S-log?
@@firesmaug3214 I prefer not to use HLG because it has Lowe color accuracy and can cause some issues with the skin-tone and color of the sky or grass. You can check a video by Gerald undone about Sony picture profiles - you’ll see the difference)
@@NOlimitsON yeah I know that but it can be fixed in color grading but my question does it has color bending?
@@firesmaug3214 I see no difference in banding with graded Slog-2 and HLG, so it’s just up to you
hı! great vıdeo. ım a begınner tryıng to set up my camera. when you talk about exsposure are you referıng to ıso?
Hi) no) exposure is the overall brightness of the image (you change it with a combination of ISO, shutter speed and aperture)
@@NOlimitsON thanks I am using the sigma 18-50mm lens should I use the same settings and will.these settings word well with a dn filter
@@NOlimitsON what export settings can you recommend for a clear clean image. I use the sony zve10
Hi! i was on the other video and watch this as you suggested but I still find in my Slog-2 the minimum ISO at 1600 on the alpha 7sII
how can i use it on lower ISO?
Hey, no you can’t, it’s the lowest possible in the S-log
@@NOlimitsON i'm sorry to bother, it's just to have a comparison. let's assume you have to record something in a very lighty day do you suggest to change picture profile or adding some ND filters on the lens?
@@simoneventura9272 I always add an ND filter - ND64 is more than enough in most cases
Can you tell me if S-Log 3 on 8-bit camera is usable?
I talk about it in this video mate) watch attentively)
I have an insta 360 1inch, but I can never work with Log mode, it's really difficult!! Any suggestions??
I guess it’s not necessary to shoot in log with Insta360 cameras, their standard color is pretty ok
Do the LUTS work for a6600?
Of course
Does anybody know or tell what he means bij 0.3 ev? Like he is saying about exposing, but I dont understand It
0,3 EV is 1/3 of a stop of light. For example going from 1/50 to 1/60 shutter speed or from f2 to f2.2 or from iso 1600 to 2000 - it’s all adjustments of 0.3 EV (Exposure value)
@@NOlimitsON so with 0.3 you meen shutterspeed or the f stops?
@@Mertz98 any exposure change by 1/3 of a stop. F-stop, ISO or shutter speed
can sony alpha 6300 slog?
Yes
How to +2EV? Just dial the EV comp +2 or what can you explain?
I’ve explained it in the video in detail, mate)
Do you shoot in manual or movie mode?
Movie
@@NOlimitsON how do you change the shutter mode and exposure mine is like automatic on the A7II and I only have a gambit not gambit cine3
sorry I'm not good at english, and your video doesn't have subtitles, I want to ask, is the iso set automatically? thank you
No, I set it manually always)
@@NOlimitsON doesn't manual exposure change when we move it to another object? how to lock ev+2 with invisible zebra 95 when capturing sky objects
@@afrizalijal1665 Yeah, manual is only good for controlled lighting. If you don't have that auto will take care of it.
Why 4:17 things happen left side footage...it happens when I shoot at Sony Alpha m4...it happen when I shoot sky video
It’s called banding - when there not enough color info (most of the time with 8-bit footage) - you get this effect on gradient colours like the sky. Also after UA-cam’s compression even 10-bit video can look like this
@@NOlimitsON it happens when I shoot video on FX 6 and now same thing happening with Sony Alpha a74 but only when I try to shoot sky video then round circle appear in sky... I don't know why
I understand the dynamic range is great with S-Log2. But the shadows can hardly be used because of the low bitrate. So you have to expose to the right and never use the recorded shadows wich costs some of the 256 steps. But not overexpose too much because of the lacking tonal precision of 8bit and often the bad sensor dynamic range. Which costs another part of the 256 steps. All in all there is less usable dynamic range and more noise than with a linear profile like Cine2, right?
Not exactly) I found slog2 to be the best in terms of color reproduction and usable dynamic range on 8-bit camera. Yes, it takes some skills and effort to film and process it correctly, but it works very good when you nail it
helo how to expose Sony a7iii Slog-2 for a low key Scene
The same) +2 EV, but without overexposing with Zebra at 95
@@NOlimitsON thank you
@@NOlimitsON There are some guides there which set Zebras at 100+ - Are they wrong?
@@Fairoz93 Zebra is not showing up in Slog at 100+- and also I prefer to have 5 extra points of IRE to protect the highlights, so I set it to 95 and it works great in 99,9% of shooting scenarios with Slog
@@NOlimitsON thanks for your quick response
yeah you really gotta nail the exposure though and takes a LOT more time in editing. lol
I tried this the last two days, I never work with iso higher than 800, whit this flow I can work with iso 4000 and don't even realize the difference
That’s great mate)) everything is about correct exposure, not about height iso values)
为什么标题用了汉语拼音?是要拓展华人观众和中国市场么？
0:45 - кадр снять с атомосом или в чистую?
Конкретно этот с атомоса, а по всему ролику очень много кадров напрямую с Флешки
I more prefer use hlg3
Good use it why are u here then ?
@@nokiddo2300 BECAUSE they recommended that video to me
я вроде такое уже смотрел на русском)
Всё верно) на моем русском канале и смотрели) у меня два канала на разных языках с идентичным контентом