@@Random_Chiroptera hey man you gotta pay the bills you know. Most high traffic channels have them in the middle it’s actually a great marketing strategy. The audience is more engaged they might pay attention besides you can skip it but asking him to remove his sponsors is similar to asking him to stop making videos.
i remember Mister Cartier's time in office. Every time i picked up a can of pork-n-beans off the shelf at the local Safeway it had 8 price tags stacked one on top of the other all with a cheaper price below it. (prices and inflation were running amuck faster than the product could literally leave the shelf) great times back then 4sure, seems fjb found Jimmy's playbook in the national archives, dusted it off, and picked up where Jim left off. Thanks Colin, your videos are superb and always enlightening, Charlie Mike good sir.
Oh brother, I was in grade school in the late 1970s and remember inflation well. Peeling off the new price sticker that was on top of the old one, reaching in the back of the display to find an "old" item with a lower price, those commercials for US savings bonds that paid 8% interest when inflation was 10% or more. Mom buying Christmas gifts on layaway. Carter told Americans to stop spending money like water because that was making things worse. Inflation stopped when interest rates hit 16% and the country sank into a recession. Both my parents were forced into early retirements. Anybody who gets nostalgic for that time period wasn't there.
Stagflation began during the Nixon administration. Stagnation was due to increasing demand for European and Japanese manufactured goods. The inflation shoe dropped when OPEC placed an oil embargo on the United States as the result of our support for Israel during the 1973 Yom Kippur War. What both Nixon and Carter discovered (the hard way) is that the combination of a contracting economy and growing inflation is immensely difficult to tackle since economic growth and rising prices are positively correlated. Eventually, Fed chairman, Paul Volcker convinced Carter to focus on inflation first by letting the Feds significantly increasing interest rates. The idea was that the economy would fall into recession but inflation would level off and, once it did, the economic growth would return. This happened and recovery began in 1982. One burp came in 1979 when, owing to the Iranian Revolution, another oil shortage spiked energy prices again. Reagan seemed to have rejected Volcker's tactics so much that he rehired him.
I was 9 and the evening news led off with the hostage crisis every single night. And every night I'd get to hear my WWII vet father say that if Carter had any balls, he'd tell Iran they had 48 hours to release the hostages or Tehran would be a 50 square mile piece of really hot glass. It's sad this rescue crew had to endure what they did, and I'm sure the hostages still living today deal with nightmares of their time in captivity.
That was an excellent episode. Thank you! Operation Eagle Claw was little more than a football Hail Mary pass that resulted in calamity. Indeed, Mr. Carter, although a superb academic at Navy, was a very poor President.
@princessmarlena1359 pulling of Nam started off successful. Nixon provided south Vietnam with military supplies and signed a peace deal that went thru. After he resigned, the democrat senate and congress trashed it and south Vietnam would fall to North Vietnam. So yeah it ultimately got botched.
@@Shah-of-the-Shinebox I forgot that book that details HOW the DEMS and RINOS plotted to get rid of Nixon. I was living in the DC area at the time of WaterGate, and walked past that huge complex to get to my grandmother's house when school was out for the summers. I heard from my uncles ( political junkies and RABID savage DEMS, makes Joy Behar a right wing loonie), remark more than once that the FIRST "break-in" at the DEM Office(s) the security guards kept sleeping and refused to do their jobs. Then the "plotters" called the management and got those "slackers" fired, hired a recommended security outfit that hired Viet Nam Vets, The next "break-in" they were "caught". I clearly remember the one Uncle say that "they" brought in the youngest "plumber", G. Gordon Liddy, who had the "one job" of making sure they all got caught. I can't prove this right now but the ways the stories were told in the WASH post made "sense" as Nixon was not that popular despite his Electoral Landslide; even my Father and Uncles, obsessive DEMS, could not figure out WHY Tricky Dick needed to get info on the clown McGovern who won one State and that was a foregone conclusion a year before that 1972 Election.
Thanks for that, this little bit of detail gets often lost to a Nixon slur. The dems are so good at covering for themselves by slandering others@@Shah-of-the-Shinebox
Ross Perot was pretty ballzy. I was 17 and couldn't vote for him. A third party libertarian minded candidate is the biggest threat to banksters and warmongers. And the civilians on both side ridicule them every election. It's GOD DAMN SHAME how completely uninformed the general population is en masse. Thank you Mr. Heaton and the production team for bringing light to the darkness with your research and presentation!
the good thing is many are waking up, but since the gov controls most media its hard to put all blame on the people. It does tick me off though when I try to inform people and they just cant see the common sense or connect the dots. Just showing people what Joe did to his own daughter in her own writings is too much for some of them. IF they cant admit things that easy to prove (same with Hunters laptop) then its sick. really sick.
Ross Perot ran a successful rescue of his employees. Jimmy Carter is a good guy. But the real world is not a church picnic. Power is not kept for long by the timid or the feckless. The meek will inherit what's left of the world.
@@vwalsh63 Can you clarify what you mean by “good guy”? I will agree when in power (and likely since) Carter has had good intentions. However, to be a “Good President” (not just Good Guy) requires a lot more than an individuals’ moral character. Don’t get me wrong- being “good” is something we all should possess. But being an “Effective” leader is way more important. Unfortunately, Jimmy Carter severely lacked in that trait. During the Iran hostage standoff, I was in 8th grade. For me, even in junior high school, Carters lack of willingness to do what was required to get Americans home safely was very apparent.
I was working in Civil Service at the time Carter was POTUS, and Carter created this "Social Security OffSet" program, limiting your Social Security if you had a Government pension, to which I was working towards at that time. I was in my early 20's but most of my co-workers were career civil service AND Military Veterans, and this proved to be extremely unpopular with said co-workers and they remembered this when Ronald Reagan entered the 1980 Presidential race. Yes, the Iran Hostage Crisis was Carter's ultimate undoing, but he only won the Presidency in 1976 because Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon too early. But that is a different story for another day. More Superior Content by Mr. Heaton!!!
Carter was PLACED in the WH, and the hostages were going to be released, until DADDY BUSH, (The Bag man!) met with Iranian officials in Paris,and delivered a large sum of money, to hold the hostages until Regan was sworn in, to make it look like HE made the deal! The exact details can be found if you research it! Bush also set up Nixon to take the fall for Watergate! Ford got his reward for going along with the fabricated narrative of the Warren Commission! And Bush was one of the main orchestrators of everything that caused chaos from the 50s onwards! A very dirty, treasonous puppet! (Which is why he was given the VP under Regan, and then the President!
@@danielcurtis1434Reagan won like 47 states? I'm guessing it would have been closer, but Reagan would have still won due to the rest of the bad decisions Carter made.
@danielcurtis1434 Reagan won the first time because Carter was garbage, definetly works that way. Reagan win the second time because Reagan was a fantastic POTUS. Works that way too.
At the NCO Academy, one of the former hostages came and talked with us. A few weeks later, one of the Air Force guys who took part in the rescue attempt came and talked with us. Both stories were awesome. The one from the Air Force guy pissed you off with how the training amd execution of the mission went. I'm so glad I got to meet them.
One thing I have to admit about Jimmy... Once he was bought with a "no pay back" loan from BCCI between his governorship and his presidency (to save the family farm from creditors due to his brother Billy's actions while Jimmy was gov)... he stayed bought throughout the rest of his life. Edit: I did forget to mention that Jimmy was critically important for two actions. His actions were critical to bringing down the shah... AND he declassified and had published documents that told the world the names of all foreigners around the world that were informants for the US CIA and other agencies. Over 3000 such people were exposed and mostly killed, and it took over 15 years to even begin rebuilding those assets... as people did not trust the USA anymore... sound familiar?
@@twinpole40 From what I remember, part of his goals during his administration, was to open up the CIA files that had not been previously released or leaked. What had not been released included things like the names of people in foreign countries who were providing information to the USA. The newspaper article I read while I was still in high school... so before 1979, lambasted him for his publication of what had been classified information... The foreign govt simply asked for copies, which our govt gave to them as the documents were declassified and made open to the public.
@@shdwbnndbyyt And the CIA responded....how? I overheard that they used an example Alias for a Special Op pretend mission and used a variation of Carter's name on Page 1. That was a HINT to Carter to shut the fudge up and rubber stamp your lottery ticket Presidency. They even rubbed Carter's nose in it by referencing another Dunce, Gerald Ford, into his "pardoning of Nixon" as the cause of Carter winning 1976. Not a word out of the Carter White House, even Billy Carter, the younger loud-mouthed beer-binger kept his mouth shut. Carter was a disaster but the people who OWN and RUN the country did not care: their decisions never affect them in their guarded communities and bubbles.
I saw this on TV as a kid. For some reason I was obsessed with it. Years later I would become a Special Operator and then a Military Aviator. I’m sure this experience had everything to do with that decision. I read several books on it by people who were there and it was a shame nobody was talking to each other. Turner was the real cause but that’s another story. I had the great honor of flying Ross Perot jr when I was a pilot in the Kurdish Air Force. I told him how much I respected his late father and that I voted for him. S/F, ABY
Could be, I never thought about being an astronaut again after the Challenger explosion. Prob wasn't gonna ever be one but they do blow up occasionally.
@@joecombs7468 or the evil of 2 lessors. I'm not sorry I voted for Bush Sr. I figured a vote for Perot was a vote for clinton, and it was. Leftist dems didn't vote for Perot, only libertarian Republicans did, and enough to give us slick willie. I'm a Conservative/Libertarian, but I won't vote for 3rd party loss. Thanks for your service and honesty. May God Bless you
Years back my senior NCOIC (E-8) was one of the "P.O.W.s" of the embassy he was a pvt first duty assignment. That changed his military service career drastically.
I was good friends with one of the chefs who worked for the Shah at his palace before during and after the coup. The guy had insane stories to tell about the debacle. Most pertinent was that the Shah actually was relatively healthy until the surgery for his throat cancer. My chef friend, who wishes to remain anonymous because of fear stated unoquivocally that the surgeons performing the surgery purposefully murdered the Shah.
I remember this well. I was in the Marines at the time and we were placed on alert. Full "battle rattle" geared up and ready. The USS Coral Sea was our transformation.
I was only a pre-teen when the hostage crisis began. In my hometown of El Paso, Texas, there is a star on the mountain that is lit up with white lights. It is really cool because in the evening, it looks like a falling star off in the distance. Well, the City of El Paso used to light the star up only during the Christmas/New Years timeframe and shut it off the remaining time during the year. When the hostages were taken in Iran, the City of El Paso decided to light the star on the mountain and keep it lit, to show our unwavering support for the hostages. Now, El Paso keeps the star lit at all times and is even known by the star on the mountain but I remember the time before! The hostages in Iran were remembered, every day of their struggle. I can recall just how long 444 days seemed to me as a young person. As an adult, I cannot imagine how long 444 days would seem to me had I been in their shoes. Boot camp and FTX guard ticked by so slowly...and I was 18 back then. Being a pre-teen, I remember wondering, why does Iran not like us? It's taken me a while to be able to fully answer that question but I really do understand now. Back in the day, I didn't understand politics enough then, but now getting to watch this episode and view it with 40+ years experience/quest to understand what actually happened. Thank you for this solid piece of education. It fills in blanks that I needed to fill in order to fully understand what happened with the military mission/political fiasco. Thank you, Professor Heaton! Most appreciated!
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I remember the day in 1980 when the news of the rescue mission's failure was announced on the radio; I was driving back home from my senior undergraduate classes. Once I recovered from the shock of hearing of the failure, my heart just fell.
Zbigniew Brzezinski, a long time friend, colleague, and mentor to Henry Kissinger, once mentioned that the achilles heel of the West, strategically and politically, is the Middle East. Russia and China have known this for a long time and have been using it. Thank you professor Heaton for another solid lesson on history.
It's been the West's Achilles heel since the Great Game, and especially after oil was found in Iran. After that, the Rockefellers came to Arabia, tying the US's politics to the British.
Happy New Year! Thanks for the content. After Covid, I can see how history can be altered in bad faith. Please continue to tell our stories while being faithful to the truth!
The truth is covid was released to remove Trump. The normal amount of fraud was not enough. House hearings showed Fauci paid other scientist to lie about it coming from a lab. Then you have the CIA whistle blower saying the CIA was paying off its own investigators to lie about where it came from. Then you have the AZ forensic audit that found that Runbeck (the Ballot CO for a few states) put in the largest order of mail sorting machines BEFORE there were any lockdowns and changes to mail out ballots. Some how they knew. The whole world got played by our own government and still is. Lets hope we so how over come the fraud but I doubt the Uni-party will ever allow Trump (us ) to win.
As if the operation wasn't cocked up enough, there was the busload of Iranians that were detained near the secret landing site of Desert One, followed by the destruction of an illegal fuel truck being driven by a smuggler. His passenger was killed, but he escaped in an accompanying pickup truck. I was attending Squadron Officer School (SOS) at Maxwell AFB, AL at the time. All of the students at Maxwell (Air War College, Air Command & Staff, SOS) were hustled into the big blue bedroom (auditorium) for a classified briefing. To say we were dumbfounded by what we were shown and told is an understatement. One of my classmates was a CH-53 maintenance officer. He knew how complex and difficult these helicopters were to maintain. He considered that part of the plan to be very unrealistic. Nor could any of us understand why mine-laying Marine helicopters were chosen for the mission, as they were ill-suited to the task. The Air Force birds were designed for such clandestine work. I was later told it was done for security reasons. I was also told each service wanted a piece of the action, possibly making such decisions more political than practical. At the time I made a comment to one of my classmates that if Ronald Reagan was elected President, then these eight servicemen would not have died in vain. Perhaps something worthwhile did arise from the ashes of this failure.
I knew Marine Embassy Guard Cpl Steve Kirtley in high school. He was a nice guy, reserved and very smart. He gave me my first Isaac Asimov book. Once again, a great presentation.
70s we're strange a time.. Vietnam, gas lines, inflation, Watergate and Nixon, hostage crisis, high interest rates, rampant drugs. Ford and Carter had difficult times to lead. Reagan was a stabilizing figure.
Thanks and have a great New Year, the story of the lengths that Mr Poirot went to to get his people Out of Iran is a good story that I don't think a lot of people have heard of, I was set to vote for him, but he was running as an independent, and I think the story of how they went after him would be another story that people should hear. 🇺🇲
When H. Ross Perot ran as the Independent in 1992, I proudly Voted for him. Perot's VP pick Admiral Stockdale was aTRUE American Patriot and POW for seven (7) years or so. That Teleprompter trick that female Intern pulled on Admiral Stockdale is indefensible and outrageous! That was the only time I did not Vote Republican, and no regrets. I always Vote for the BEST Candidate, America first, party second. I am Voting for the BEST Candidate in MY Lifetime, TRUMP 2024! No other choice!
Agreed, I was allot younger, but would love to see a show on him and what happened. No doubt the Deep State had a hand in blocking him. Mr. Heaton and crew do a great job covering history and scandals, but dont really push the Deep State narrative. After 2020, I have watched many corrupt GOP caught rigging elections against trump. Local and State GOP legislators that blocked full Audits, That covered up evidence and other state investigations. All people Need to know there IS a Uni-party.. Being GOP means nothing when you have controlled GOP in many places. Kemp and Rattassburger in GA is a perfect example. He knew the election was rigged, lied about doing machines Audits and for 3 years and STILL in court blocked a group from even looking at the Fulton Ballots. AND thats with 3-4 poll Managers that said there are tons of counterfeits that were counted.! They show 1000s from ballot images that were duplicated and many illegal, yet they still cant look. AZ Audit and the years drama I watched from there is sick. At the time the GOP AG, Gov and Senate Prez had all the evidence to jail many Dems and GOP working in elections, but did nothing but cover it up. Even the GOP lawyer there that offered millions to the auditors to NOT use info from another Auditor and that lawyer Threaten anyone to talked about the 10K counterfeits found in that one COUNTY audit!. Guess what.... now that Maricopa lawyer is now the been upgraded to the full State GOP lawyer. Then you got WI. Anyone can go to Rumble and look up Michael Gableman. WI ex SC Judge that looked into election crimes and found many. The GOP legislators did nothing and later they went after HIM! There is so much the American people DONT see because of the Mockingbird Media. I feel like Im living in China with how things are.
@lamontpearce170 I'm sure they don't have everything rigged but many are. Don't worry we are almost at the point of them not bothering with the illusion of a republic. They have spent billions setting up a system to fool us. Think about the billions they spend to have the media lie to us over and over. Watch some of the election court cases like Kari lakes and see how the court system tosses out evidence of mass fraud. It's a sick system
In 1987, my parents bought a house from Lt Col Leslie Petty, who had participated in this Operation. He had burn scars on his forearms which I believe occurred when his chopper went down. I just looked him up and he passed away in 2022.
When discussing the Eagle Claw mission, one thing that is rarely talked about is the state of our armed forces post-Vietnam. Remember that the Vietnam conflict had ended only a few years earlier and Congress was still going through their efforts to restructure and downsize the military. Many defense contracts were canceled in favor of domestic entitlement programs and that led to the armed forces being understaffed and poorly equipped. Consider also the political ramifications for Carter. Had the mission gone in and failed, he still would've been able to present himself as having the spine necessary to act as Commander in Chief, whether they got any hostages out or not. From other things I've read and seen, it was really Carter's own fault that the mission failed as it did. He micromanaged Eagle Claw from the top instead of giving the Delta Force autonomy in performing the mission. But it shouldn't even have gotten that far. The day after the embassy was stormed and the hostages taken, Carter should've confronted Iran directly about committing an act of war and advising the world by way of the U.N. that they'd have 48 hours to release the hostages or escort them to a neutral country, else bombing would commence. We had two carrier groups in the Persian Gulf capable of doing that.
When I lived in Belgium (1973-1981), before the Iran Hostage Crisis, our Southern Baptist pastor told his story of being held hostage in Iran. Every morning they blindfolded him and others, led them out to a courtyard, told them to kneel, and stated they were going to be executed. I'm grateful to say they never did execute them and, eventually, they were released. I cannot imagine the mental and emotional torture for weeks they experienced but it showed in his face, his voice and his body language while he relayed this to me. He has always been one of my heroes.
Thank you for sharing this. I was 15 years old in 1979 and remember the Carter administration and the hostage crisis, but I never really understood what happened. Of all the things I remember about the Carter administration, the fuel crisis was the worst. My Dad owned and managed a Shell gas station in a small Southern California desert community. It was located where two highways met, and used to be quite successful until the fuel crisis of the late 1970s. Things got so bad that Dad laid off most of his employees and put me and my brother to work there. I was in 9th grade, my brother was in 11th. We would get out of school at 2:15 and work until midnight. As well as working weekends. You do what you have to when times are tough. Gas went up to over $1.00 a gallon which most Tokeheim gas pumps weren't able to read that high. There were times when Dad couldn't get a full fuel delivery and had to ration what he had, limiting customers to five gallons. Or the "odd/even" days when customers could only buy gas based on their license plate. Repair work in the garage slowed down as well. Eventually, Dad lost the gas station and blamed it on Jimmy Carter. Dad hated him. The hostage situation made it worse. Thank you for explaining the hostage crisis. I tuned out that era for many years because of the bad memories
The Military Men at the top "damn well knew about sand storms,and what they could do!" We had several in our war with Germany, in the deserts of North Africa. The top brass will never admit when they're wrong,neither do they seem to learn from their mistakes.
As bad as I remember morale being in 1979-1980, I never dreamed in my worst nightmares it would EVER get that bad again, and yet, here we are again but far worse.
Several of us from the Ranger battalions, were selected to go on the op (I was going as a sniper). We were all sequestered and began running long distances. Our mission was to secure the nearby soccer stadium. SF-OD were to bring the hostages to the stadium and helicopters would extract us all to the desert one location. Colonel Beckwith changed the mission and decided not to use us.
Unfortunately, this is one of the things in history I cannot forget. I got to spend many months in the Indian Ocean looking through a periscope during this time frame.
Enlisted in 10/1980 as an Infantryman, 11B. Training into Mechanized Infantry, I was in Basic & AIT during this time. The senior DI's, who were mostly Vietnam vets & some tough SOB'S, drilled us with this situation in mind & the distinct possibility of the deployment of the Army. I can say almost all were ready to go. Now as a much older man, having read the history of my country in subverting foreign governments, and to include govt violations of federal law here at home, domestic surveillance all unpunished I feel very strongly that our own govt is the single biggest threat to our freedoms.
And yet we didn't learn our lesson and are still bending over backwards to be friendly towards them. Our country is the person that's upset with the mere thought of strangers not liking them.
Thanks again good sir! Trying to recover from a term of Eric Foner History. I am not going to be a historian, but interested in a Postive Patriototic veiw if this great country you served. Thank you again.
Brief comment on that note about Carter's policies. I'm convinced the Department of Education is a violation of the 10th Amendment that limits Federal authority. But no one fights it. Ho hum...
Well, I remember it well since I was 25 at the time. I voted for Ronald Reagan not once but twice. President Carter was to be polite and good and decent man and I have no doubt he loved the country. As President, he was out of his depths and could not make up his mind on pretty much anything. He still lives and is in the twilight. You forgot Major Richard "Dick" Meadows- Green Beret, who was on the ground in Tehran. The man was a legend. The Mission failed for lots of reasons, but the United States and its military learned from its mistakes, out of it the Special Forces Operation Command was established, and A separate Special Forces branch was established with the cross arrows for the uniform lapels and, most importantly the establishment of the 160th SOAR, those helicopter pilot did well, but they were thrown into the fire, you need very specialized training to do that sort of thing and it has to be ongoing. and finally, the Helicopters themselves, They didn't have enough machines, and the issues with helicopters in general, so what did we do, nothing special, Oh we came up with the V-22 Osprey. I will not go into how the Shah was shafted in all of this. And here we are some 40+ years later, Islamic Iran declared war on the United States and to this day we don't see the situation as such and just do what we will have to do anyway. They didn't learn anything from Operation Praying Mathis. Looks like they are going for another round. Major Dick Meadows should not be forgotten.
I had always understood that Carter cut the military so much that enlisted personnel qualified for food stamps. Another consequence was that much needed maintenance on equipment including helicopters was not done as needed. These helicopters were not maintained to the level needed to carry out the mission because of the budget cuts. Navy helicopters were needed to go below deck on the aircraft carriers but the Navy wasn't told to provide their best aircraft. Then all the mechanical issues happened with the helicopters. I hope and pray we learned from the loss of life and failure of this mission and I think that in this case we did.
The Ayatollahs have the second largest ‘embassy’ staff in the Vatican after the Dominican Republic. The Open Society Foundation also has a headquarters in the Vatican.
I remember seeing some of these helicopters in the hanger bay of the ship I was on. The USS Kitty Hawk. We were almost to Hawaii coming back from a WesPac and turned around and headed back to the Indian Ocean. When in the Indian Ocean is when I noticed these odd looking helicopters in the hanger bay.
My husband’s first cousin participated in the failed “Operation Eagle Claw,” losing several friends during the mayhem. That fateful day marked his mental decline.
I recall when I had heard about the rescue operation. This was an ill-advised and badly executed mission. The whole hostage crisis was a real debacle for Carter's administration.
Years ago I met a man who was part of Delta force at Desert one. He told me that the mission was fubar from the get-go, and was not the way you plan an execute a mission.
But TRUE!!! I Voted for H. Ross Perot in 1992, knowing that the Vote for Perot might be a wasted Vote. Perot "quit" mid-way through that 1992 Campaign as he was the LEADER over BOTH Clinton and GHW Bush, but the "incident" where men carrying rifles showed up to Perot's daughter's wedding and the family begged Perot to stop. I can't prove what I just typed but when you grow older and see how things truly are, this story is more true than not true until proof is presented otherwise.
During my WestPac cruise in 1980, my ship was part of an amphibious task force carrying 1,800 US Marines. We were 60 miles off the coast in The Indian Ocean at wartime steaming conditions when we got the word that the rescue attempt had failed.
The big flaw I see is how complicated the military plane was. The com issues aside. Had this mission gone forward you have to get into a city full of hostiles rescue the hostages than move them to the soccer stadium brining in the helicopters to extract the team and the hostages. While under fire in a hostile city. I mean this plan is just complicated and has many unknowns like the dust storm or what i mentioned.
I was in the 82nd Airborne division when the hostages were taken in Iran and I honestly can't remember how many times my battalion sat in a C141's waiting for the word to go that never came. If we had taken care of it at that time Iran wouldn't be as close as they are now to having nuclear weapons and that is his legacy.
I was a teenager when this happened, and I was then aghast at just how powerless our country appeared to be in the face of the Iranian actions. I never really had any doubt that President Carter was a devout Christian, or that his faith informed his actions as our chief executive, but I realized that no country (certainly not this one) needs Mr. Nice Guy as a leader; we need a real sonofabitch...OUR sonofabitch, in the face of such threats.
No, it was the Nimitz. If you were there, you weren't paying attention. Source: I was on the Coral Sea, the "other carrier" that was in the Arabian Sea during Eagle Claw. I put it in quotes because we were always pissed about the news reports saying "The USS NIMITZ and another carrier were doing..."
Absurd, he did not get Ford elected did he? Alot about Ronnie is a fantasy, make believe, President Fluffy, a lot of fluff. And a lot is pure propaganda. I knew he was bogus when Stockman got fired. He was not taken seriously just like Don. Getting assassinated was fortuitous, forcing gravy trainers to take him seriously. The Russians may hate us but they will always admire us. Got to have a villain in all walks of life. You don't know everything. You were not a child when he was governor and my mom lost her job because Ronnie was helping closing down the mental hospitals in Calif. There were as many as 50. The pts were put on the street. Many of these pts were gay. It was considered a very serious mental illness at one time. Just ask Dorothea Dix. Homosexual is actually a medical term. Parents would have their children admitted. My mom was a psych nurse and I grew up listening to lectures everyday about head injuries, drug abuse, and gays. But she lost her job when Modesto state hospital was closed and subsequently had to drive to Stockton every night in the fog dueling with the semis. I really hated Ronnie after that not knowing everyday if I was still going to have a mom. But Ronnie was a hero to the gays helping to gay up Calif and ultimately to the rest of the county. It spread to Oregon in '80. You're a propagandist. TYRAK
@@tommyguyishere. I voted for Carter over Reagan. Two weeks after inauguration we started to receive basic supplies we needed to operate in East Asia, supplies we were told for years could not bought due to military budget cutbacks. I also noticed Reagan didn’t poison the water and air, kill off all the old people and he didn’t take children from their mothers for medical experiments as the democrats and the major networks claimed he was going to do if elected. I’ve never voted for another democrat in 43 years and never will. I’m still amazed how easily I was fooled at 23 years old!
I've been working on an Alt-History book series set during this time period where Operation Eagle Claw was successful and Carter won a second term. But, the Cold War goes hot afterwards.
I was a little kid when this operation took place. I couldn't figure out why they wouldn't plan for dust storms. I honestly thought that's all the desert was.
I don't remember anyone going to see Carter unless it was some of the black or female hostages released early. When the remaining hostages were released, it was after Carter was out of office. Reagan had taken the reigns by then.
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I bet the white men left behind in the enemies hands were thinking about their "white privilege" while waiting to die.
Please keep your sponsor ads at the beginning or end. Mentioning them in the middle sounds like some kind d of weird off-topic tangent.
I love this channel keep up the great work
@@Random_Chiroptera hey man you gotta pay the bills you know. Most high traffic channels have them in the middle it’s actually a great marketing strategy. The audience is more engaged they might pay attention besides you can skip it but asking him to remove his sponsors is similar to asking him to stop making videos.
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I didn't request removal. Do not so frivolously accuse me of saying things that I did not.
While it was destined to fail, I have to admire the sheer balls of this mission.
i remember Mister Cartier's time in office. Every time i picked up a can of pork-n-beans off the shelf at the local Safeway it had 8 price tags stacked one on top of the other all with a cheaper price below it. (prices and inflation were running amuck faster than the product could literally leave the shelf)
great times back then 4sure, seems fjb found Jimmy's playbook in the national archives, dusted it off, and picked up where Jim left off.
Thanks Colin, your videos are superb and always enlightening, Charlie Mike good sir.
Carter was all heart and no brain. Biden has neither.
Oh brother, I was in grade school in the late 1970s and remember inflation well. Peeling off the new price sticker that was on top of the old one, reaching in the back of the display to find an "old" item with a lower price, those commercials for US savings bonds that paid 8% interest when inflation was 10% or more. Mom buying Christmas gifts on layaway.
Carter told Americans to stop spending money like water because that was making things worse. Inflation stopped when interest rates hit 16% and the country sank into a recession. Both my parents were forced into early retirements. Anybody who gets nostalgic for that time period wasn't there.
Stagflation began during the Nixon administration. Stagnation was due to increasing demand for European and Japanese manufactured goods. The inflation shoe dropped when OPEC placed an oil embargo on the United States as the result of our support for Israel during the 1973 Yom Kippur War. What both Nixon and Carter discovered (the hard way) is that the combination of a contracting economy and growing inflation is immensely difficult to tackle since economic growth and rising prices are positively correlated. Eventually, Fed chairman, Paul Volcker convinced Carter to focus on inflation first by letting the Feds significantly increasing interest rates. The idea was that the economy would fall into recession but inflation would level off and, once it did, the economic growth would return. This happened and recovery began in 1982. One burp came in 1979 when, owing to the Iranian Revolution, another oil shortage spiked energy prices again. Reagan seemed to have rejected Volcker's tactics so much that he rehired him.
I was 9 and the evening news led off with the hostage crisis every single night. And every night I'd get to hear my WWII vet father say that if Carter had any balls, he'd tell Iran they had 48 hours to release the hostages or Tehran would be a 50 square mile piece of really hot glass. It's sad this rescue crew had to endure what they did, and I'm sure the hostages still living today deal with nightmares of their time in captivity.
JC was not a good president.
Not forgotten to me. I lost two good friends. Three fine Marines. Rest easy George and Country.
Were you a part of this?
That was an excellent episode. Thank you! Operation Eagle Claw was little more than a football Hail Mary pass that resulted in calamity. Indeed, Mr. Carter, although a superb academic at Navy, was a very poor President.
Operation Eagle Claw and the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan are two of the most embarrassing incidents in American history.
That and 9/11, pulling out of ‘Nam, and allowing our embassies in Kenya and Tunisia to be destroyed.
@princessmarlena1359 pulling of Nam started off successful. Nixon provided south Vietnam with military supplies and signed a peace deal that went thru. After he resigned, the democrat senate and congress trashed it and south Vietnam would fall to North Vietnam. So yeah it ultimately got botched.
@@Shah-of-the-Shinebox Ah, yes! By the way I love your profile title! 🤣
@@Shah-of-the-Shinebox I forgot that book that details HOW the DEMS and RINOS plotted to get rid of Nixon. I was living in the DC area at the time of WaterGate, and walked past that huge complex to get to my grandmother's house when school was out for the summers. I heard from my uncles ( political junkies and RABID savage DEMS, makes Joy Behar a right wing loonie), remark more than once that the FIRST "break-in" at the DEM Office(s) the security guards kept sleeping and refused to do their jobs. Then the "plotters" called the management and got those "slackers" fired, hired a recommended security outfit that hired Viet Nam Vets, The next "break-in" they were "caught". I clearly remember the one Uncle say that "they" brought in the youngest "plumber", G. Gordon Liddy, who had the "one job" of making sure they all got caught. I can't prove this right now but the ways the stories were told in the WASH post made "sense" as Nixon was not that popular despite his Electoral Landslide; even my Father and Uncles, obsessive DEMS, could not figure out WHY Tricky Dick needed to get info on the clown McGovern who won one State and that was a foregone conclusion a year before that 1972 Election.
Thanks for that, this little bit of detail gets often lost to a Nixon slur. The dems are so good at covering for themselves by slandering others@@Shah-of-the-Shinebox
Ross Perot was pretty ballzy. I was 17 and couldn't vote for him.
A third party libertarian minded candidate is the biggest threat to banksters and warmongers. And the civilians on both side ridicule them every election. It's GOD DAMN SHAME how completely uninformed the general population is en masse.
Thank you Mr. Heaton and the production team for bringing light to the darkness with your research and presentation!
Thank you kindly
He was also critical unchecked immigration. Pat Buchanan also was a good Proto-America First candidate.
the good thing is many are waking up, but since the gov controls most media its hard to put all blame on the people. It does tick me off though when I try to inform people and they just cant see the common sense or connect the dots. Just showing people what Joe did to his own daughter in her own writings is too much for some of them. IF they cant admit things that easy to prove (same with Hunters laptop) then its sick. really sick.
Ross Perot ran a successful rescue of his employees. Jimmy Carter is a good guy. But the real world is not a church picnic. Power is not kept for long by the timid or the feckless. The meek will inherit what's left of the world.
@@vwalsh63 Can you clarify what you mean by “good guy”?
I will agree when in power (and likely since) Carter has had good intentions.
However, to be a “Good President” (not just Good Guy) requires a lot more than an individuals’ moral character.
Don’t get me wrong- being “good” is something we all should possess.
But being an “Effective” leader is way more important.
Unfortunately, Jimmy Carter severely lacked in that trait. During the Iran hostage standoff, I was in 8th grade. For me, even in junior high school, Carters lack of willingness to do what was required to get Americans home safely was very apparent.
I was working in Civil Service at the time Carter was POTUS, and Carter created this "Social Security OffSet" program, limiting your Social Security if you had a Government pension, to which I was working towards at that time. I was in my early 20's but most of my co-workers were career civil service AND Military Veterans, and this proved to be extremely unpopular with said co-workers and they remembered this when Ronald Reagan entered the 1980 Presidential race. Yes, the Iran Hostage Crisis was Carter's ultimate undoing, but he only won the Presidency in 1976 because Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon too early. But that is a different story for another day. More Superior Content by Mr. Heaton!!!
Then couldn’t you say Reagan won cuz Carter screwed up? Or does it “not work that way”?
Carter was PLACED in the WH, and the hostages were going to be released, until DADDY BUSH, (The Bag man!) met with Iranian officials in Paris,and delivered a large sum of money, to hold the hostages until Regan was sworn in, to make it look like HE made the deal! The exact details can be found if you research it! Bush also set up Nixon to take the fall for Watergate! Ford got his reward for going along with the fabricated narrative of the Warren Commission! And Bush was one of the main orchestrators of everything that caused chaos from the 50s onwards! A very dirty, treasonous puppet! (Which is why he was given the VP under Regan, and then the President!
@@danielcurtis1434Reagan won like 47 states? I'm guessing it would have been closer, but Reagan would have still won due to the rest of the bad decisions Carter made.
@danielcurtis1434 Reagan won the first time because Carter was garbage, definetly works that way. Reagan win the second time because Reagan was a fantastic POTUS. Works that way too.
Why are you commenting about something you could have changed? Do you understand why the latest generations hate your gen and older?
We are reliving this now.
At the NCO Academy, one of the former hostages came and talked with us. A few weeks later, one of the Air Force guys who took part in the rescue attempt came and talked with us. Both stories were awesome. The one from the Air Force guy pissed you off with how the training amd execution of the mission went. I'm so glad I got to meet them.
One thing I have to admit about Jimmy... Once he was bought with a "no pay back" loan from BCCI between his governorship and his presidency (to save the family farm from creditors due to his brother Billy's actions while Jimmy was gov)... he stayed bought throughout the rest of his life.
Edit: I did forget to mention that Jimmy was critically important for two actions. His actions were critical to bringing down the shah... AND he declassified and had published documents that told the world the names of all foreigners around the world that were informants for the US CIA and other agencies. Over 3000 such people were exposed and mostly killed, and it took over 15 years to even begin rebuilding those assets... as people did not trust the USA anymore... sound familiar?
Mr. Carter was astonishingly overmatched as POTUS. Being Governor of Georgia was not the prerequisite to prep any GA Gov. for that job.
I think the family jewels were released prior to Jimmy Carter, did he do a subsequent release?
@@twinpole40 From what I remember, part of his goals during his administration, was to open up the CIA files that had not been previously released or leaked. What had not been released included things like the names of people in foreign countries who were providing information to the USA. The newspaper article I read while I was still in high school... so before 1979, lambasted him for his publication of what had been classified information... The foreign govt simply asked for copies, which our govt gave to them as the documents were declassified and made open to the public.
@@shdwbnndbyyt And the CIA responded....how? I overheard that they used an example Alias for a Special Op pretend mission and used a variation of Carter's name on Page 1. That was a HINT to Carter to shut the fudge up and rubber stamp your lottery ticket Presidency. They even rubbed Carter's nose in it by referencing another Dunce, Gerald Ford, into his "pardoning of Nixon" as the cause of Carter winning 1976. Not a word out of the Carter White House, even Billy Carter, the younger loud-mouthed beer-binger kept his mouth shut. Carter was a disaster but the people who OWN and RUN the country did not care: their decisions never affect them in their guarded communities and bubbles.
I saw this on TV as a kid. For some reason I was obsessed with it. Years later I would become a Special Operator and then a Military Aviator. I’m sure this experience had everything to do with that decision.
I read several books on it by people who were there and it was a shame nobody was talking to each other. Turner was the real cause but that’s another story. I had the great honor of flying Ross Perot jr when I was a pilot in the Kurdish Air Force. I told him how much I respected his late father and that I voted for him.
S/F, ABY
Could be, I never thought about being an astronaut again after the Challenger explosion. Prob wasn't gonna ever be one but they do blow up occasionally.
Perot running in '92 was what put Clinton in the White House.
Thank you for your service, but voting PeeRot? Did you suffer concussions?
@@MorganOtt-ne1qjBush, Clinton, & Perot.
Perot was the lesser of the 3 evils.
@@joecombs7468 or the evil of 2 lessors. I'm not sorry I voted for Bush Sr. I figured a vote for Perot was a vote for clinton, and it was. Leftist dems didn't vote for Perot, only libertarian Republicans did, and enough to give us slick willie. I'm a Conservative/Libertarian, but I won't vote for 3rd party loss. Thanks for your service and honesty. May God Bless you
Years back my senior NCOIC (E-8) was one of the "P.O.W.s" of the embassy he was a pvt first duty assignment. That changed his military service career drastically.
I was a 19 y.o. Marine LCpl stationed at MCAS Yuma when this started. This hasnt been forgotten.
I was good friends with one of the chefs who worked for the Shah at his palace before during and after the coup. The guy had insane stories to tell about the debacle. Most pertinent was that the Shah actually was relatively healthy until the surgery for his throat cancer. My chef friend, who wishes to remain anonymous because of fear stated unoquivocally that the surgeons performing the surgery purposefully murdered the Shah.
I would not be surprised....
Tell us the stories please
I remember this event. I was only 12, but my father was hyper focused on it and I got the gist of it back then.
I remember this well. I was in the Marines at the time and we were placed on alert. Full "battle rattle" geared up and ready. The USS Coral Sea was our transformation.
I was only a pre-teen when the hostage crisis began. In my hometown of El Paso, Texas, there is a star on the mountain that is lit up with white lights. It is really cool because in the evening, it looks like a falling star off in the distance. Well, the City of El Paso used to light the star up only during the Christmas/New Years timeframe and shut it off the remaining time during the year. When the hostages were taken in Iran, the City of El Paso decided to light the star on the mountain and keep it lit, to show our unwavering support for the hostages. Now, El Paso keeps the star lit at all times and is even known by the star on the mountain but I remember the time before! The hostages in Iran were remembered, every day of their struggle. I can recall just how long 444 days seemed to me as a young person. As an adult, I cannot imagine how long 444 days would seem to me had I been in their shoes. Boot camp and FTX guard ticked by so slowly...and I was 18 back then.
Being a pre-teen, I remember wondering, why does Iran not like us? It's taken me a while to be able to fully answer that question but I really do understand now.
Back in the day, I didn't understand politics enough then, but now getting to watch this episode and view it with 40+ years experience/quest to understand what actually happened. Thank you for this solid piece of education. It fills in blanks that I needed to fill in order to fully understand what happened with the military mission/political fiasco.
Thank you, Professor Heaton! Most appreciated!
This was great to watch and gain further knowledge of these events! Thank you for your concise reporting!
🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 my friend and fellow Marine you truly probably have the best historical channel on UA-cam… Most people can live with 20 minutes. You pack more raw to the point history in 20 minutes than anybody. Great job keep it up.🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I remember it well. I turned 18 a couple weeks after the hostages were taken. What a debacle of an operation.
I remember the day in 1980 when the news of the rescue mission's failure was announced on the radio; I was driving back home from my senior undergraduate classes. Once I recovered from the shock of hearing of the failure, my heart just fell.
Zbigniew Brzezinski, a long time friend, colleague, and mentor to Henry Kissinger, once mentioned that the achilles heel of the West, strategically and politically, is the Middle East.
Russia and China have known this for a long time and have been using it.
Thank you professor Heaton for another solid lesson on history.
It's been the West's Achilles heel since the Great Game, and especially after oil was found in Iran. After that, the Rockefellers came to Arabia, tying the US's politics to the British.
Ah yes. Mika's Dad.
I dont know much about Brzezinski. Is he as insufferable as Mika?
@@zeezlebops I would wager to say yes.
@@joshuagibson2520 me too but im trying to be less cynical these days lol. Il save judgement for now.
Happy New Year!
Thanks for the content. After Covid, I can see how history can be altered in bad faith. Please continue to tell our stories while being faithful to the truth!
The truth is covid was released to remove Trump. The normal amount of fraud was not enough. House hearings showed Fauci paid other scientist to lie about it coming from a lab. Then you have the CIA whistle blower saying the CIA was paying off its own investigators to lie about where it came from. Then you have the AZ forensic audit that found that Runbeck (the Ballot CO for a few states) put in the largest order of mail sorting machines BEFORE there were any lockdowns and changes to mail out ballots. Some how they knew. The whole world got played by our own government and still is. Lets hope we so how over come the fraud but I doubt the Uni-party will ever allow Trump (us ) to win.
As if the operation wasn't cocked up enough, there was the busload of Iranians that were detained near the secret landing site of Desert One, followed by the destruction of an illegal fuel truck being driven by a smuggler. His passenger was killed, but he escaped in an accompanying pickup truck. I was attending Squadron Officer School (SOS) at Maxwell AFB, AL at the time. All of the students at Maxwell (Air War College, Air Command & Staff, SOS) were hustled into the big blue bedroom (auditorium) for a classified briefing. To say we were dumbfounded by what we were shown and told is an understatement. One of my classmates was a CH-53 maintenance officer. He knew how complex and difficult these helicopters were to maintain. He considered that part of the plan to be very unrealistic. Nor could any of us understand why mine-laying Marine helicopters were chosen for the mission, as they were ill-suited to the task. The Air Force birds were designed for such clandestine work. I was later told it was done for security reasons. I was also told each service wanted a piece of the action, possibly making such decisions more political than practical. At the time I made a comment to one of my classmates that if Ronald Reagan was elected President, then these eight servicemen would not have died in vain. Perhaps something worthwhile did arise from the ashes of this failure.
Thank you one again Colin for re-educating us!! Old Marine
I knew Marine Embassy Guard Cpl Steve Kirtley in high school. He was a nice guy, reserved and very smart. He gave me my first Isaac Asimov book. Once again, a great presentation.
I still have a roll of "ayatoilet paper" from back then 😄
70s we're strange a time.. Vietnam, gas lines, inflation, Watergate and Nixon, hostage crisis, high interest rates, rampant drugs. Ford and Carter had difficult times to lead. Reagan was a stabilizing figure.
I was heartbroken to learn all about Gerald Ford later....I Voted for Reagan twice and will be Voting for Trump a 3rd time!
High inflation? High interest rates? High fuel prices? Sounds a lot like our current president
Thanks and have a great New Year, the story of the lengths that Mr Poirot went to to get his people Out of Iran is a good story that I don't think a lot of people have heard of, I was set to vote for him, but he was running as an independent, and I think the story of how they went after him would be another story that people should hear. 🇺🇲
When H. Ross Perot ran as the Independent in 1992, I proudly Voted for him. Perot's VP pick Admiral Stockdale was aTRUE American Patriot and POW for seven (7) years or so. That Teleprompter trick that female Intern pulled on Admiral Stockdale is indefensible and outrageous! That was the only time I did not Vote Republican, and no regrets. I always Vote for the BEST Candidate, America first, party second. I am Voting for the BEST Candidate in MY Lifetime, TRUMP 2024! No other choice!
@@jackremington3397 agreed TRUMP For PRESIDENT and MAGA FOREVER 🇺🇲
Agreed, I was allot younger, but would love to see a show on him and what happened. No doubt the Deep State had a hand in blocking him. Mr. Heaton and crew do a great job covering history and scandals, but dont really push the Deep State narrative. After 2020, I have watched many corrupt GOP caught rigging elections against trump. Local and State GOP legislators that blocked full Audits, That covered up evidence and other state investigations. All people Need to know there IS a Uni-party.. Being GOP means nothing when you have controlled GOP in many places. Kemp and Rattassburger in GA is a perfect example. He knew the election was rigged, lied about doing machines Audits and for 3 years and STILL in court blocked a group from even looking at the Fulton Ballots. AND thats with 3-4 poll Managers that said there are tons of counterfeits that were counted.! They show 1000s from ballot images that were duplicated and many illegal, yet they still cant look. AZ Audit and the years drama I watched from there is sick. At the time the GOP AG, Gov and Senate Prez had all the evidence to jail many Dems and GOP working in elections, but did nothing but cover it up. Even the GOP lawyer there that offered millions to the auditors to NOT use info from another Auditor and that lawyer Threaten anyone to talked about the 10K counterfeits found in that one COUNTY audit!. Guess what.... now that Maricopa lawyer is now the been upgraded to the full State GOP lawyer. Then you got WI. Anyone can go to Rumble and look up Michael Gableman. WI ex SC Judge that looked into election crimes and found many. The GOP legislators did nothing and later they went after HIM! There is so much the American people DONT see because of the Mockingbird Media. I feel like Im living in China with how things are.
If voting really counted do you think they would let us vote?
@lamontpearce170 I'm sure they don't have everything rigged but many are. Don't worry we are almost at the point of them not bothering with the illusion of a republic. They have spent billions setting up a system to fool us. Think about the billions they spend to have the media lie to us over and over. Watch some of the election court cases like Kari lakes and see how the court system tosses out evidence of mass fraud. It's a sick system
I'm sure when the Department of Education was created many people knew the factory churning Propaganda machine it would be.
And the starting of the the down fall of our education system. And more indoctrination in gov public schools.
You mean like this channel?
@@alwillk what u got a different history book. Facts are facts dude.
In 1987, my parents bought a house from Lt Col Leslie Petty, who had participated in this Operation. He had burn scars on his forearms which I believe occurred when his chopper went down. I just looked him up and he passed away in 2022.
Another great one brother. God bless you
I am so happy about randomly finding this channel a few weeks back straight facts straight to the point. Thanks
I’m Iranian and that’s great to see God’s support like this. Especially at a time that Iran was so vulnerable. It was a miracle
When discussing the Eagle Claw mission, one thing that is rarely talked about is the state of our armed forces post-Vietnam. Remember that the Vietnam conflict had ended only a few years earlier and Congress was still going through their efforts to restructure and downsize the military. Many defense contracts were canceled in favor of domestic entitlement programs and that led to the armed forces being understaffed and poorly equipped. Consider also the political ramifications for Carter. Had the mission gone in and failed, he still would've been able to present himself as having the spine necessary to act as Commander in Chief, whether they got any hostages out or not. From other things I've read and seen, it was really Carter's own fault that the mission failed as it did. He micromanaged Eagle Claw from the top instead of giving the Delta Force autonomy in performing the mission. But it shouldn't even have gotten that far. The day after the embassy was stormed and the hostages taken, Carter should've confronted Iran directly about committing an act of war and advising the world by way of the U.N. that they'd have 48 hours to release the hostages or escort them to a neutral country, else bombing would commence. We had two carrier groups in the Persian Gulf capable of doing that.
We sure did i was on gonzo station at that time aka the red sea/indian ocean qm2 usnavy USS Okinawa.....🇺🇲
One thing we can say is, they learned a lot and did respond in a major way to lessons learned from that terrible day.
When I lived in Belgium (1973-1981), before the Iran Hostage Crisis, our Southern Baptist pastor told his story of being held hostage in Iran. Every morning they blindfolded him and others, led them out to a courtyard, told them to kneel, and stated they were going to be executed. I'm grateful to say they never did execute them and, eventually, they were released. I cannot imagine the mental and emotional torture for weeks they experienced but it showed in his face, his voice and his body language while he relayed this to me. He has always been one of my heroes.
It means Iranians are much more humane than the isrealis.
That’s insane they had so many problems with the helicopters
It’s good that you tell these stories. So many are forgotten in history and people need to know about them
I had a NCO Instructor that’s was on this mission. That was at camp Johnson NC summer 1983.
Happy New Year to the channel and to each & every fellow viewer from Spangdahlem AB, Germany!
Happy New Year! Thanks for your service!
Bitburg AFB 75-79. Keep fighting the good fight brother
Flying in a Sandstorm with Old School Helicopters sounds like Peanuts Farming to me
LOL
The 53 Marines I knew that were part of the fiasco, thought it was pretty sketchy from very beginning.
Thank you for sharing this. I was 15 years old in 1979 and remember the Carter administration and the hostage crisis, but I never really understood what happened.
Of all the things I remember about the Carter administration, the fuel crisis was the worst. My Dad owned and managed a Shell gas station in a small Southern California desert community. It was located where two highways met, and used to be quite successful until the fuel crisis of the late 1970s.
Things got so bad that Dad laid off most of his employees and put me and my brother to work there. I was in 9th grade, my brother was in 11th. We would get out of school at 2:15 and work until midnight. As well as working weekends. You do what you have to when times are tough.
Gas went up to over $1.00 a gallon which most Tokeheim gas pumps weren't able to read that high. There were times when Dad couldn't get a full fuel delivery and had to ration what he had, limiting customers to five gallons. Or the "odd/even" days when customers could only buy gas based on their license plate.
Repair work in the garage slowed down as well. Eventually, Dad lost the gas station and blamed it on Jimmy Carter. Dad hated him. The hostage situation made it worse.
Thank you for explaining the hostage crisis. I tuned out that era for many years because of the bad memories
Perfect timing. I was just learning about this and wanted to see what this channel had to say about it. Thank you!
Welcome!
Wow,I had indeed forgotten about this mess. Thanks Colin and I wish you and yours a healthy and happy New Year.🍾😘
The Military Men at the top "damn well knew about sand storms,and what they could do!" We had several in our war with Germany, in the deserts of North Africa. The top brass will never admit when they're wrong,neither do they seem to learn from their mistakes.
For anyone who hasn't seen it, The Operations Room channel has a video illustrating the Eagle Claw mission in great detail.
As bad as I remember morale being in 1979-1980, I never dreamed in my worst nightmares it would EVER get that bad again, and yet, here we are again but far worse.
Very good program. Thank you, we must remember all of our nations history.
The beginning of the Delta Force movie with Chuck Norris depicts Eagle Claw! Thanks for video! Uaahh!
Very interesting and informative video. Thank you for your service; respectfully, from a female Army veteran.
Much appreciated and thanks for your service
"Always forward"! Blessings for you and yours in the new year!@@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
thank u Colin...as always...great job...!..!..thank u ...!
Several of us from the Ranger battalions, were selected to go on the op (I was going as a sniper). We were all sequestered and began running long distances.
Our mission was to secure the nearby soccer stadium.
SF-OD were to bring the hostages to the stadium and helicopters would extract us all to the desert one location.
Colonel Beckwith changed the mission and decided not to use us.
Thanks for video series, these are very informative. Keep up the good work. Happy New Year to you and yours!
Unfortunately, this is one of the things in history I cannot forget. I got to spend many months in the Indian Ocean looking through a periscope during this time frame.
I remember that horrific incident. We were stationed at Ft Sam when the Shah came through San Antonio.
Enlisted in 10/1980 as an Infantryman, 11B. Training into Mechanized Infantry, I was in Basic & AIT during this time. The senior DI's, who were mostly Vietnam vets & some tough SOB'S, drilled us with this situation in mind & the distinct possibility of the deployment of the Army. I can say almost all were ready to go. Now as a much older man, having read the history of my country in subverting foreign governments, and to include govt violations of federal law here at home, domestic surveillance all unpunished I feel very strongly that our own govt is the single biggest threat to our freedoms.
This channel is such a great source for a book I’ve been writing, although it also teaches me a lot of things I need to go back and change.
Great to hear!
And yet we didn't learn our lesson and are still bending over backwards to be friendly towards them. Our country is the person that's upset with the mere thought of strangers not liking them.
Thanks again good sir! Trying to recover from a term of Eric Foner History. I am not going to be a historian, but interested in a Postive Patriototic veiw if this great country you served. Thank you again.
Great show once again. Really enjoy your content.
This guy is an interesting speaker. It doesn't hurt that he holds my position on many historical characters.
RIP
To the eight US servicemen and one Iranian civilian who were killed in Operation Eagle Claw
Brief comment on that note about Carter's policies. I'm convinced the Department of Education is a violation of the 10th Amendment that limits Federal authority. But no one fights it. Ho hum...
Well, I remember it well since I was 25 at the time. I voted for Ronald Reagan not once but twice. President Carter was to be polite and good and decent man and I have no doubt he loved the country. As President, he was out of his depths and could not make up his mind on pretty much anything. He still lives and is in the twilight. You forgot Major Richard "Dick" Meadows- Green Beret, who was on the ground in Tehran. The man was a legend. The Mission failed for lots of reasons, but the United States and its military learned from its mistakes, out of it the Special Forces Operation Command was established, and A separate Special Forces branch was established with the cross arrows for the uniform lapels and, most importantly the establishment of the 160th SOAR, those helicopter pilot did well, but they were thrown into the fire, you need very specialized training to do that sort of thing and it has to be ongoing. and finally, the Helicopters themselves, They didn't have enough machines, and the issues with helicopters in general, so what did we do, nothing special, Oh we came up with the V-22 Osprey. I will not go into how the Shah was shafted in all of this. And here we are some 40+ years later, Islamic Iran declared war on the United States and to this day we don't see the situation as such and just do what we will have to do anyway. They didn't learn anything from Operation Praying Mathis. Looks like they are going for another round. Major Dick Meadows should not be forgotten.
Brought to you by Morning Mika’s daddy, Zbignew. What pieces of human debris.
I had always understood that Carter cut the military so much that enlisted personnel qualified for food stamps. Another consequence was that much needed maintenance on equipment including helicopters was not done as needed. These helicopters were not maintained to the level needed to carry out the mission because of the budget cuts. Navy helicopters were needed to go below deck on the aircraft carriers but the Navy wasn't told to provide their best aircraft. Then all the mechanical issues happened with the helicopters. I hope and pray we learned from the loss of life and failure of this mission and I think that in this case we did.
Lived It. US Navy, deployed Eagle Claw.
Really enjoy your videos sir. A thorough good time.
Glad you enjoy it!
Thanks very good!
The Ayatollahs have the second largest ‘embassy’ staff in the Vatican after the Dominican Republic. The Open Society Foundation also has a headquarters in the Vatican.
what a bunch of radicals!
I remember seeing some of these helicopters in the hanger bay of the ship I was on. The USS Kitty Hawk. We were almost to Hawaii coming back from a WesPac and turned around and headed back to the Indian Ocean. When in the Indian Ocean is when I noticed these odd looking helicopters in the hanger bay.
The ineptitude of this mission is mind boggling
I was in Charlie Company 1st Ranger Battalion at the time
If you know, you know.
My husband’s first cousin participated in the failed “Operation Eagle Claw,” losing several friends during the mayhem. That fateful day marked his mental decline.
I recall when I had heard about the rescue operation. This was an ill-advised and badly executed mission. The whole hostage crisis was a real debacle for Carter's administration.
Years ago I met a man who was part of Delta force at Desert one. He told me that the mission was fubar from the get-go, and was not the way you plan an execute a mission.
"The mission succeeded because the Carter administration wasn't involved."
That is cold as ice
But TRUE!!! I Voted for H. Ross Perot in 1992, knowing that the Vote for Perot might be a wasted Vote. Perot "quit" mid-way through that 1992 Campaign as he was the LEADER over BOTH Clinton and GHW Bush, but the "incident" where men carrying rifles showed up to Perot's daughter's wedding and the family begged Perot to stop. I can't prove what I just typed but when you grow older and see how things truly are, this story is more true than not true until proof is presented otherwise.
During my WestPac cruise in 1980, my ship was part of an amphibious task force carrying 1,800 US Marines. We were 60 miles off the coast in The Indian Ocean at wartime steaming conditions when we got the word that the rescue attempt had failed.
Has it ever occurred to you warmongers that you are not invincible?
The big flaw I see is how complicated the military plane was. The com issues aside. Had this mission gone forward you have to get into a city full of hostiles rescue the hostages than move them to the soccer stadium brining in the helicopters to extract the team and the hostages. While under fire in a hostile city. I mean this plan is just complicated and has many unknowns like the dust storm or what i mentioned.
I was in the 82nd Airborne division when the hostages were taken in Iran and I honestly can't remember how many times my battalion sat in a C141's waiting for the word to go that never came. If we had taken care of it at that time Iran wouldn't be as close as they are now to having nuclear weapons and that is his legacy.
All the Way, Airborne!
1/325AIR & 1/504PIR.
I was in the Indian Ocean . Proud US Navy service member
I was a teenager when this happened, and I was then aghast at just how powerless our country appeared to be in the face of the Iranian actions. I never really had any doubt that President Carter was a devout Christian, or that his faith informed his actions as our chief executive, but I realized that no country (certainly not this one) needs Mr. Nice Guy as a leader; we need a real sonofabitch...OUR sonofabitch, in the face of such threats.
And that s.o.b. I am Voting for a 3td time, TRUMP 2024!
Sorry, but the carrier that launched the black Sea Stallion helicopters was the USS DWIGHT D EISENHOWER, a Nimitz Class carrier. I was there.
Thanks for the correction and for your service
sorry Bubba , I saw the , Nimitz depart Pier 12 Norfolk. was on JFK -CV-67, back-up. we went to Egypt.
No, it was the Nimitz. If you were there, you weren't paying attention. Source: I was on the Coral Sea, the "other carrier" that was in the Arabian Sea during Eagle Claw. I put it in quotes because we were always pissed about the news reports saying "The USS NIMITZ and another carrier were doing..."
+ Enterprise was only other, CVN- Ike wasn't even layed keel yet.
@@charletonzimmerman4205 Actually, she was. She just wasn't in the Arabian Gulf in April of 1980. She was commissioned in '77.
The best thing Carter did was get Reagan elected
Yes, Reagan was bat shit crazy in the end. He mumbled and made no sense asking for his mommy at the end. So the question is when did his crazy start?
@@tommyguyishere Before Creepy Joe.
Absurd, he did not get Ford elected did he? Alot about Ronnie is a fantasy, make believe, President Fluffy, a lot of fluff. And a lot is pure propaganda. I knew he was bogus when Stockman got fired. He was not taken seriously just like Don. Getting assassinated was fortuitous, forcing gravy trainers to take him seriously. The Russians may hate us but they will always admire us. Got to have a villain in all walks of life. You don't know everything. You were not a child when he was governor and my mom lost her job because Ronnie was helping closing down the mental hospitals in Calif. There were as many as 50. The pts were put on the street. Many of these pts were gay. It was considered a very serious mental illness at one time. Just ask Dorothea Dix. Homosexual is actually a medical term. Parents would have their children admitted. My mom was a psych nurse and I grew up listening to lectures everyday about head injuries, drug abuse, and gays. But she lost her job when Modesto state hospital was closed and subsequently had to drive to Stockton every night in the fog dueling with the semis. I really hated Ronnie after that not knowing everyday if I was still going to have a mom. But Ronnie was a hero to the gays helping to gay up Calif and ultimately to the rest of the county. It spread to Oregon in '80. You're a propagandist. TYRAK
@@tommyguyishere. I voted for Carter over Reagan. Two weeks after inauguration we started to receive basic supplies we needed to operate in East Asia, supplies we were told for years could not bought due to military budget cutbacks. I also noticed Reagan didn’t poison the water and air, kill off all the old people and he didn’t take children from their mothers for medical experiments as the democrats and the major networks claimed he was going to do if elected. I’ve never voted for another democrat in 43 years and never will. I’m still amazed how easily I was fooled at 23 years old!
Yeah 45 years of corporatism, trickle down economics and a shifted tax burden has worked out well for the people?
Thank you very much and Happy New Year from Spain ❤
Happy new year!
Brings back the memories. Thanks for such a great channel ❤
Thanks for watching!
What he did to The Company, after hiring Turner, still sits ill with me. That's on top of everything else.
Your videos are very informative, interesting and entertaining!!
Glad you like them!
Any chance of a show on Operation Ivory Coast, considered one of the best Special Forces operations in history.
Possibly. Thanks for watching
I've been working on an Alt-History book series set during this time period where Operation Eagle Claw was successful and Carter won a second term. But, the Cold War goes hot afterwards.
I miss old Ross Perot ! The man would have been a good president in 92 or 96.
Eagle claw is not forgotten, sadly neither is camp David. My opinion, David was the greater blunder, I see evidence of this on the news everyday.
I was a little kid when this operation took place. I couldn't figure out why they wouldn't plan for dust storms. I honestly thought that's all the desert was.
Another great example of the establishment installing their own Canidate
I have a friend who was one of the Iranian Hostages, there were a number of men who were hostages who refused to see Carter when they got out.
I don't remember anyone going to see Carter unless it was some of the black or female hostages released early. When the remaining hostages were released, it was after Carter was out of office. Reagan had taken the reigns by then.