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2. Seems more centrally located. Possibly a larger "comfort" zone available
I agree, more central, more accessible, and it's probably not a huge deal, but farther away from the ammo storage.
Agree. Plus not sure if massive temp swings next to the pew pews would be a good thing
Agree 100%. If it gets REALLY cold, the far away workbenches could be shifted a bit. I would suggest casters on the benches anyway ( the kind you can drop down) so the legs are firmly on the slab.
I would also raise it up 18", using a thick bed of bricks or stone, which will retain tons of heat, and maybe even do a firebrick panel on the wall behind it for the same purpose.
I'd go with option 2. More centrally located and would throw more heat to the area where you'd be pulling in vehicles to work on. Option 3 just seems too out of the way and would be in the way to get around the work bench.
I think it would be to hot over there too.
Central is the key, and I would raise it.
and leave some space between the stove and the bench to fit a wheel barrow of wood (or whatever you use to get the wood inside). Makes a safe spill zone for stuff you are doing on the bench at the same time :-)
I feel this is the best location for all of the reasons that everyone eles said and also it still will let you have the area where the woodworking bench is now as a sitting area if you look like without the wood stove too close.
I’d go with option 2. Move your bench down and send her home. It’s obviously the most centrally located, and in range of most of the shop. Also the most visible from what I can tell. A little inconvenient that it will have to be moved a bit more to the right then ideal, to compensate for the roof beam, but I think it’s worth it.
#2 agreed.
Option #2 definitely
#2. Central, and near well/water pump.
#2 also covers the potential "conversation" area. Should heat is all directions from there.
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I would elevate it in the spot where the lathe is located. It is nearer the both work spaces and could easily use a fan to direct the heat to or away from each area. It would be visible from most areas as well. The third spot you pointed out would be my second choice. But I would save that high wall as it is useful for displaying large things (like the at taxidermy) and other interesting things you might collect. Get some neon signage for it...
Option 2. Still central but you don’t have to move your cabinet and also prob won’t get too warm where you can’t stand it
Option 2. Central location for even heating and you can set up chairs around the stove without having to move anything.
Thanks, my kid just turned to me, grinned, and asked me if I got a permit for our wood stove.
Least said the better
Option Number 1. As somebody who grew up in a “professional homeowner” shop that was also a gathering place for the neighborhood men, i can tell you placement that encourages the gathering will be more important than any of the other practical/functional reasons for placement.
As others have pointed out, yes 2 would be more centrally located for heating purposes, but it is also centrally located meaning you will be having to dodge this hot thing all the time. And while it might be closer to your work if you pull something in to work on it, remember the heat is in the work. And you don’t want the gathering group all up on you while you are working on something.
Some mentioned not having it that close to firearms and supplies, but I think I remember you saying you’d move those cabinets, so that wouldn’t be an issue.
With all that being said, I have more memories of the guys hanging around that shop stove than probably any other memory growing up. The district judges, farmers, loggers, mechanics, grading contractors, carpenters, and hardware store managers that gathered around that stove have helped shape me more than I ever realized was happening at the time. I learned about aspects of life that I would never have learned at my house. The men that gathered at that stove were/are giants of men. To this day, 40 years later, that stove is still a gathering spot for men who would literally do anything for each other, some of which are 3rd and 4th generations of the original group. More boys/young men need the opportunity to gather around a stove like that to learn the life lessons I had the blessing of encountering first hand.
Number 2! You don’t want that much heat beside your ammunition and also it will be really hot working at your benches you’ll be sweating!
I had the same thought, it will be hot in that corner of the shop and cold in the rest.
Yep, turn the stove a quarter clockwise with the glass front pointing toward your cozy sitting corner and remove the heathshield from the back. Then it will give heat to both sides and use a ventilator to circulate the hot air through the whole space.
agreed. Nº2
I like elevating it 18” so much easier to tend to.
great thinking, less bending over the better
And the heavy box you elevated it with ,could be open in front to store the fire wood.
It’s also a good idea just in case some fuel spills and the stove is above the vapours
@@hunterbyrd1860 yes! I know a fella who lost his garage due to a fuel leak on a snowmobile he was working on making it's way to the gas water heater.
......a slab of soapstone to raise it 18".......
Option 2! Center and where your going to be filming most of the time, centrally located and easily accessible, only down is that you may have to do a slight 45 degree to get around the steel truss. Great video brother, I made a barrel stove you showed last year. We moved into our barn last Oct and it got a little cold. We have finally moved into our GOD blessed house and last week I put in a barrel stove!
The spinning shot during the unwrapping really did my vertigo a nice spell
i vote number 2.. easy to get into the shots and depending on how much work you do, is far enough away from the vise and wood shop table (where the most physical work is done) that you won’t get hot and bothered with it.
i would say 2 for me, best central locations. easy in shots. raise deffinatly.
$3000 woodstove for a shop. Incredible.
Going with 2., centrally located, like you said, everyone can enjoy it there. You can bathe in the heat from the wood working area, and the general bench, and keep it well under supervision. Keep up the great work, and have a merry Christmas!
Option 3, because a fire and granddad's antlers just go well together
True, those elk antlers look handsome hanging there with woodworking tools.
Grandad has antlers?!? What kind of family do you live in??
Absolutely!
#3. And you might want to think about a ceiling fan with those high ceilings to move the heat around.
1+ ceiling fan/fans run on low speed will for sure help even out the temp. a big improvement in my shop!
Michael Scherer that is a GREAT suggestion!!
Yep, blowing down 😁
@@jaystonkey Pulling up actually. In the winter you typically want to pull air up in the middle of the space and push that heat at the ceiling across and down the perimeter walls.
One thing I don't like is storing gas cans in the same building as the woodstove. perhaps a fuel bunker will be a good solution.
as for placement option 2, and Id raise it more than 18" but IM 6'4 ;)
100% agree. Small vented shed elsewhere for fuel storage.
He is 6’4 as well
It's not a problem. You would have to intentionally perform multiple reckless & really stupid acts would need to occur in order to stand any remote chance in hell of a fire. -- Like pouring/splashing -lots- of (not diesel) fuel on the ground in front of the stove with the stove door open and a big fire going. -- And if Cody raises the stove up as he mentioned (he should) then it would be even harder to create a fire from the fuel. If conditions are made safe for nearby flammable gasses, like propane, then there is most certainly no risk from the liquid fuels.
Cody, I like the 3rd place for installing your brand new wood stove because we will get to see it more often in your winter videos and it would be easier for installation. And for your meetings with your friends to enjoy. I sure love seeing it with the glass window creating ambience.May your family have a Merry Christmas. God bless your family and friends.👍
I vote for option 2.
- It will most likely always be in the wide shots
- It is in a central location, heating everything mostly equally
- It would fit optically quite nicely as the black pipe is a nice contrast to the wood
- In case you actually have to house your family in the workshop you can place their bedding right in front of the stove without having to move any of your equipment around
Good video as always, Cody.
Greetings from Germany! 🇩🇪
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas! I Love sending my dirt bike up enduro trails with my go pro! (definitely option 2)
Went over it in my head and i woud go with number 2 because it is more in the center of the shop. Merry Christmas to you and your family.
I agree with what many of the other commentators are saying about keeping the stove as centrally located as possible for the most even distribution of heat. Great video, Cody, as usual. Always fun to see your progress and hear your perspectives 😁
Option 2, I like option 3 too but feel like you wouldn’t be able to use the outlets anymore, at least I would be worried having extension cords that close to the stove.
If number 2 could be turned 90 degrees to face the glass toward the “conference” area would be splendid. I do think number 3 would heat that little nook a little better though.
#2 then #3 and I wouldn't even bother with #1.
Merry Christmas to you and your family and have a safe and Happy New Year, From the East Coast and Pennsylvania we love you and your content. You are one of the best teachers on UA-cam. God Bless.
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Hi! Option 2. Because it’s centrally located and you could use part of the work benches lower shelf to store wood right next to the stove. Thank you for the video! Merry Christmas and May God bless you and your family!😁❤️
I think I would go with option 2, as option 3 altho is the neatest I fear it might be to close and causeing you to over heat when doing woodworking. I used to work in a timber yard, and in winter nothing worse then having to keep taking off and putting back in layers when changing from working outside to inside and back again. Also from a videography stand point, if you have it in option 2 you can use a wide angle and get the flames/fireplace in frame to create some great shots, but with option 3 it will be side on so you wont see them and it might give you some very odd lighting with that glass front when filming. Also Merry Christmas from England & Hope you have a great time!
I chose option 3. My reason is very simple. It's the one you want to do. It's your shop, do what you would enjoy the most.
3 sounds like what you like. I would pray about it. Then you will know. Thanks for sharing. Merry Christmas and God bless!!
Option 3 because it is closest to where you spend most of your time. But a lot of people's argument for option 2 as more central was a good idea especially since it is not just central to the work stations but also for when you are working on the shop floor.
But again if you plan on having that sitting area and doing most work by option three area and you want quick and easy access and to keep it within easy eye sight then I'd suggest going with option 3. But I also agree with what someone else mentioned about keeping it away from ammo storage. So I would move the ammo if it is near the option 3 location but I am sure you would have thought of that as well as you are a pretty smart cookie.
Later, love the channel been a fan for a few years now and it has helped me in multiple things taught me a lot that my grandpa never had the chance to or that my dad didn't have the time because of work or because it wasn't his area of expertise.
Best of luck with everything and hope having friends over doesn't cause anyone to catch covid.
Option 2, assuming after you expand the shop the add-on is mostly going to be for storage and the original shop area will remain for Gunsmith/Woodwork/Metalwork/Mechanical area.
I like option 2 for more even heat throughout the entire shop.
Woo-hoo! Vermont right here Cody. We make fantastic stoves. Glad you recognize our capable folks. Bless you
Hello Mr. W,
My name is Aaron Davis and I have been watching your videos for a couple years now. I don't know if you read your comments on UA-cam or not but I felt compelled to reach out to you. I am a lowly handyman in the bowels of the liberal hellscape that is Colorado. I lost my business this year due to the virus-that-must-not-be-named. However I feel compelled to reach out to you and your family and thank you for your videos and content. I have been inspired to not give up on this year by you and other UA-camrs. I pray you a the family will be blessed in the coming 4 years. God Bless you and yours
Aaron Davis
2. It looks like an easier spot to pull up a wheelbarrow, wagon, or forklift with a pallet of wood and load straight from the chosen carrier.
While Position 3 might look good on woodworking/"cartridge dispersal unit" videos, I think it would eventually prove to be in the way, especially with any adjacent fuel supply. when you have your "town meetings." I also agree with the previous comment about overheating that corner of your shop. If it were my shop, I'd look at halfway between Position 2 and where you set the crate down with your forklift: gets it a little more out towards the center and away from right up against a work area. Yeah, you might have to walk an extra 4 - 6 feet to get from woodworking to metal working, but the exercise helps warm you up ...
Seriously, if the manufacturer/experts/building code administrators say you can put it as close as X inches from a wall, I'd put it 2X (twice as far) inches away. You want to heat the shop, not the outside wall.
Great project, doing this in January! Thanks for sharing
Merry Christmas!
I like option 2. (3 seems good too)
Center heat location
More visible in video. I’m not there but I’d love to see the fire dancing along the glass in the background.
Every large home shops I've been in the owners put it in the middle of the floor or near center.
If you do have the stove door facing the wood working bench, you can check on the fire and know when to stoke the fire. Where the unboxing was done is a good spot just turn it 180 degrees
Yes
I personally would be hesitant to have a wood stove that close to all my firearms and supplies. Not necessarily just for fire risk, that is most likely pretty low, but more in regards to the constant heating and cooling of things. It may no matter much though. A perk of #3 is that it would make a beautiful camera shot with the wood stove and wood boarding behind it. #2 would serve just as well for a social gather but may not be quite as good looking. #2 might also help with a little bit more even heating throughout the shop. Either way should work well enough.
I was going to leave the exact same comment. The wood stocks as well as the optics might not react well to the constant extremes.
The firearms need to be in the house.
I like location#2 it is more center to the shop and will offer a large area of heat on both sides. Love your videos!
Number 3, I like the location for just plain coziness plus I think If you put it in one of the other spots it will be in your way. Ya gotta think do you want it right in your work area or do you want it off to the side but still close enough to get good heat from it. And another thing with the whole meeting area and what not right by it I think it is a great idea. Great for some fireside chats with us! God bless you and the family! Merry Christmas!
I remember in high school my welding class took a field trip to Vermont castings and we got to see them make wood stoves it was really neat! Proud Vermonter here!
I like option 2 more central to the whole space and wont make those outlets un-useable
This is what I was thinking.
Totally agree with this!
Plus, won’t have to move the wood working bench for the meeting.
Option 2, best location, centrally located and able to be I cooperated in frame of both workbenches.
Number 2 is for sure the ample spot. Also being from the east coast id say wed have a good idea how to build stoves being we have the longest winters. Love your channel, and content keep the Lord in your channel and success with follow you even further. Arent to many people from that community to talk about it anymore God bless your family.
Ignore option 1 imo- you spent the money on glass, so put it somewhere you can see it. Option 2 seems best bc of the central location. I don’t like option 3 because that thing is a nuclear reactor- too hot to work right next to
I’m not really picking an option but I would keep in mind a potential shop expansion in the future. I wouldn’t want to regret putting the stove somewhere and then realize I wish it was somewhere else when I expand the shop. Then again, if shop expansion is just going to be storage, then it wouldn’t matter as much if you’re not spending as much time there compared to the options you proposed. Great video and another neat project. Looking forward what comes next. Merry Christmas!
He is planning to expand but most of it will be for his summer implements. The current shop has all of his important work areas.
I am happy to hear that Vermonters enjoy West Coast status! :). Native Vermonter speaking. You have interesting shows and I enjoy your family. Merry Christmas!
Number three because I like the idea of the seating area you have in mind!
#2 is the best, always stay as close to the center as you can in a large open space. otherwise, one side of the building will be colder than the other unless you add fans to move the air. Here is Minnesota where we frequently spent January and February below zero this is standard procedure. Wood stoves go in the center of the house. Same with all the Amish around us. They live without fans and electricity to move the air around their houses. Very smart people.
Agreed. This location will make your primary work areas comfortable, but not sweltering. The stove is primarily a utilitarian heat source. The beauty of the flame is a distant secondary benefit.
I would not disrupt the woodworking area, personally. I would not build a permanent dedicated lounge area, particularly if you elevate the platform 18 inches. Instead, I would purchase or make a couple of stools and a bunch of folding wooden chairs for gatherings. One needs to be able to move as close to a fire as the conditions warrant. There is a reason that the old Grange Halls have no real furniture, just folding chairs and tables... Folding chairs give you that flexibility. I would still move the gun safe, as that would be the ideal location for a firewood stack, indoors, and at the ready.
If you are really intent on that corner for meetings, then you can put lever actuated casters on the woodworking bench, and move it away as needed while leaving everything else in place. You could point the face of the stove in that direction at install, if you wish. This would put the light of the fire in the area where you spend most of your time. The heat is going to radiate 360 in any case.
Number 3, “metal projectile devices” and a wood stove. Don’t get much better than that
I have to agree with you Cody. Location 3 is the place. I think it the best of the 3 and adjacent to a spot that looks appropriate for gathering. First time commenter from the "Central Coast" state.
Cody,
1. Raising the stove 18” is good fire safety practice in a garage or shop. Your back will also thank you.
2. With your forklift, I’m envisioning you having a pallet size wood box that you would keep things tidy and be able to drive in and out of the shop to refill. Or use the front loader on your tractor. Plan appropriately.
3. If you’re trying to warm the whole shop, you’re going to want a hot fire. Anywhere within ten feet is going to be very hot and hazardous or uncomfortable to work near. So next to the bench presents issues. Also think about inconvenience of doffing and donning layers as you move about the shop.
4. Sidewall vent vs. roof consider your possible snow load and impacts.
5. I believe you said you’d move the gun cabinets for option 3. Obviously you need to consider everything in proximity to the stove and impact of temperature changes.
6. Aside from some low speed fans to push heat down, you could also consider a horizontal fan circulating air blowing toward your bench. This would also help circulate air in the summer to cool that area.
Hope that helps cover some issues you may have not considered
That's a powerful stove. Maybe don't put it too close to where you work most. You will over heat. consider where you can store the immediate use firewood too.
Option 2, elevated as others have said.
Hello Cody. Number 3 location for me. You will be able to see the wood burning from most work areas and be more central. That’s why you have chosen a glass front to see the fire on those cold days. Merry Christmas to you and your family. Regards
Thanks you! Lived in VT and when I saw that stone it looked like mine. West coast or east coast we are all on the same earth.
“Even came with it’s own firewood”
#2 seems like a great central location for wherever your working in the shop
#3
I would say #3 only because it’s right off all the current setup working space and if Mrs W wants a “sitting room” you don’t have to do anything... The wife is always right!!!
Amazing work, keep up the amazing content and Merry Christmas to you and your family 🎄❤️
Option 3 my favorite too. You may consider a chimney snow diverter as your chimney seems to be located at the end of the slope of the roof. Can't wait to see the result!
I would lean towards location 2. Seems more centrally located but still close enough to the meeting of gentlemen's corner.
I would take position 2, where the lathe is now. To me that seems more central to me, if you work on the vice side of the bench you still got heat. it's far away from any doors. I think position 2 is ample enough to heat the wood and gun shop areas. You could put it sideways with the door towards the woodshop even. if you want to see it if you turn that area into a 'man cave' :P (but I would keep the back to the wall even in position 2. I think if you put it next to the clock in that location, you will heat that area to hot and the further away positions to cold.
GREAT choice of wood stove!
All I know is here in the California Sierra on COLD evenings like tonight a high quality wood burning stove is a literal godsend.
We also have an L L Bean red enamel Lattice Stovetop Steamer with water on top of the stove which ads warm moist air to the room, which also helps prevent wood paneling, wood floors, wood furniture from drying out in winter.
I would choose option 3 cause as you said if would be a nice place to gather and spend time with your friends which will keep section of the shop nice and warm
"I gave the folks in Vermont special West Coast Status, so we're good.." Gotta love it! I like the stove in location #2... yes it would be more in the way, but I think that will be more of a benefit, then a distraction. For example when your group is hanging out in your shop, having the stove more in the open will be nice.
Then a distraction? What?
I'd say #2 for best all-around heating. Yes, #3 would look the best, but my concern is that it would be way too hot over in the woodworking area since it's a little nook.
im leaning towards 3 as well. being in the corner opposite from the big doors could help keep that corner warm in case the big doors are opened alot during the day as well as being by the smaller door youll be able to feel the warmth better as you walk in
FWIW I like it where it sits in the middle of the room. I have my #18 Army Cannon pot belly stove in the middle of one corners of my shop with my lathe, end mill and drill press behind it. Those are things I rarely use but are completely accessible. Being somewhat in the middle the room heats pretty evenly.
In case I’m not on tomorrow, Wranglerstars and to all, Merry Christmas!
position 3 is my vote. up on a pedestal as mentioned already is good.
Wherever you put it, you might consider creating shed or lean-to on the outside of the pole building to store a supply of firewood, with a small door to access it from the inside within steps of the wood stove. We were able to incorporate a small wood box (approx. 2'x3'x3' with access from the outside and the inside) into the design of our home right next to each of the two wood stoves (one above the other on two floors). This adds a great deal of convenience and eliminates a lot of mess. We added a wood shed (24'x16') near that end of the house so that filling the wood boxes requires only a few steps and is only necessary every few days.
My neighbor gave me an extra stove he had, and I just recently installed it...it’s awesome!
Same here. I will be installing mine soon in my shop.
did u ever show where u used that double barrel heater? i wanted to know how well it worked and best uses
He used already one in his old big shop. The new he made was for a friend.
Cody, please let me give you a tip on that roof boot (red silicone). Orient it like a diamond on the roof rather than squaring it up with the orientation of the building. This will help with water diversion and will deter leaks and standing water. I hope that makes sense. Essentially you will be pointing one corner of the boot to the eave and the opposite corner will be pointed to the ridge. I've been in the metal building industry for over a decade and it is a best practice. Best wishes and good luck on the project.
Wow great tip! 👍🏼
I vote #3. #2 would be better for heating but 3 would be better for looks... and being you run a UA-cam channel 3 would probably be better for you.
Merry Christmas wranglerstar family, you are all a blessing to us.
#2👍. PEACE AND LOVE TO ALL 🙏🙏
My big concern would be am I to close to the stove while working on something and be too hot and the less used side of my shop being a good temp for working.
Hey Cody, long time viewer first time caller...or should I say commenter 😂. Anyway, I think option 2, where the lathe is, would be the most fitting location. Not only will it provide more heat throughout the shop, you’ll still be able to admire the fire from the “conference” area. maybe rotating it 90* so the rear is facing the table can be an option. Either way, looking forward to see what you decide to do. Love your videos, it’s great to see an honest man actually giving back to his community. Merry Christmas to you and the family ✌🏼
Thanks!!! We purchased one and are in the process of getting it shipped to japan.
My first thought, are you thinking clearly, then I read most everyone else's opinions. Number 2, Cody. As far away from your guns and ammo as possible!
2 for me. I wouldn't feel comfortable with 3 being that close to my pew pews and ammo. 2 is also very centralized and closer to where you will be maintenancing the vehicles.
#3. I like the cozy area it creates for woodworking and gunsmithing.
Merry Christmas to you and your beautiful family. Keep up the great channel.
i would recommend option 4!! where it is on the pallet for winter then move it for summer. That way it radiates all around.
You can't have it mobile on a permitted install, the reason he needs permits is a specific type of asshole that likes to watch youtubers and report every violation to the local government
I’d say avoid your oils etc under your bench, don’t think it’s a good idea to be constantly temperature cycling your oil storage. Just think about where you will be adding the extension, it’s better to be central so you can evenly heat the whole area. It’s a big stove so it might be too hot in option 3 if you always working close to it, definitely not option 2 because of the oils. I think option 1 will be most central when the extension gets completed?
I vote number two will definitely give a even heat round the hole shop. Hope you and the family have a great and safe Christmas
The grate around the top also helps prevent birds from getting into the pipe. I've had a few birds fall down mine when the stove isn't in use
Many different types of animals get into chimneys. Sometimes even large mammals can get stuck or die within chimneys. You don't want a fire with an animal lodged in your chimney. You won't get your fire going properly and the "aroma" can be pretty obscene.
The 2nd location achieves a more central location while still being just to the side of the potential "meeting" area.
One of the greatest saying I’ve heard from a wise family member of mine. “Cut your own firewood. It’ll warm you twice”
We say three times. once for felling, once for splitting, and fire.
I like #3 the most, but I'd choose the location that will require the least amount of headaches for servicing and cleaning. I'd also consider location for dealing with a leak and not ruining stuff. Good luck, Merry Christmas to all and God bless.
I like 2. Walking in and out of the shop and seeing it front and center would make me happy. I miss being a wood burner.
I was told I couldnt insure my garage with a woodstove, they stated that they couldnt with any combustibles ie. Gas in the vehicle tanks, gas cans, and brake clean...
I would go with Opt. 3 and move the gun cabinets to the opt. 2 location.
Merry Christmas!🎄. Here in West Palm Beach FL,, sunny 76F, but I have a beautiful like new Vermont Castings in burgundy waiting for me to install in my Work Shop back in NY.... Came with double wall SS piping as well. Craigslist .....My vote ...👎 vice... 👍. Move Cabinets, great area for meetings. Get yourself a nice “New ‘’ retro fridge to keep Pop etc for your meetings etc, you may never go back into your home....
I prefer the 3rd option the most but option 2 is more centrally located for heat distribution. My father when he built my childhood home in LaGrande Oregon, built a hearth tall enough to be able to sit on. I loved this growing up. He also build a wood box which we put our newspapers in all year long to have to start the 🔥 each day. Once stalked with wood each night we wouldn't have to go back outside in the cold to get more wood. Our back covered patio was big enough to store 7 cords of wood each winter. Now days we've had to replace that old wood stove with a gas stove as my parents are in their later years now, but it sits up there on that hearth just as pretty.
Option 2
More centrally located and there's room to have wood nearby