Replacing a 1970s Jet Pump with a Modern Submersible Well Pump
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In this video we replace a Jet pump with a new submersible well pump along with a new bladder tank & water filter.
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I'm the homeowner, this is my well! The well was dug in 1972 or 1973 and it had a normal small pumphouse around it. My dad built this larger building around it in the early 90's. The original jet pump was replaced by the one that is being removed in this video sometime in the 90's as well. Maybe at the same time the bigger building was built. The one being removed is a Water Ace from Lowes. However, the PVC pipe in the well was still dated 1970 (saw it printed on one of the pieces they pulled out). I am not sure if someone pulled all the PVC out at that time to replace the ejector on the bottom, or if they just left the one from the original 1972 pump.
These guys did a great job, and I'm fortunate that I live close enough by that I could get him and his crew. I started watching these videos a year or so back, thinking I was going to have to at least replace my pressure tank which had failed. Then I realized they were close by, so I was able to get them to come and replace the entire pump. The pump had developed a bad bearing around Christmas so it was on it's way out. I'm hoping to get them to come back later this year to replace the black plastic pipe and electric back to the house.
They did an awesome job. He's very professional. Came out and did the job on a day when a lot of people wouldn't have bothered. It's working great and we have good, consistent water pressure now. The finished system is a work of art compared to what I had before. I just go out and stare at it sometimes.
Thank you for letting this job be shared with us here on this channel. Really helps to see different scenarios and configurations both old and new. Best of luck!
Glad you're using a clear filter so he can tell when it's getting dirty
Bonus points for petting the cat. And that "D-U-N" done! LOL - I'm stealing that!
This channel has taught me a lot. Appreciate your hard work.
Bringing back memories!😊
am i the only one left that likes running a jet pump and a non bladder tank? i like having a system i can keep an eye on. i also just rebuild the pump for less then $100.
I'm using a 20+ year old stay rite Jet pump attached to a Mid 1970's Hoyt 40 gallon old style tank.Add air @ every 9 months, and get 12 gallons of draw down at 45-65 PSI pump switch setting. Did I mention that I'm a plumber with almost 40 years experience? Shallow wells can get good service out of jet pump systems, but anything over 60 feet deep needs a submersible pump.Stay away from the "Big Box" store parts!!!!
Anything over 60ft total depth right? Not where you first touch water? I’m trying to figure out what pump to buy. I have a jet pump at 20-40 pressure setting and I’d like to see if I can go to 40-60 to increase water pressure overall.
@CarolinaFigueroa-vd9mt depends on your setup, your pump may not support 60 psi
I think that's the type of system my neighbor has, which she has problems with periodically. It won't turn off at times, but pumps water.
Fun Facts. I'm in the pool and spa business, but I'm a plumber by trade and we used to do a lot of deep well jet pumps back in the day. The first "Jacuzzi Jets" were actually deep well jets. Jacuzzi originally made well and winery equipment. In the 50s while building his own pool Jacuzzi installed deep well jets sideways in the pool wall, with the venturi suction open to the atmosphere. When water was pumped through the jet it sucked air in creating more "Power". All spa jets still operate on the same basic principle. Forcing pressurized water through a small orifice and then drawing air in through venturi action. Mazzai injectors for chemicals and ozone work the same way.
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It's pretty "well" insulated. I lol'd.
Looks good, nice job
And 40 years from now your system will look....still awesome!
Yes… because the pump got changed every 10 years
Thanks for yet Another Great vidclip, ....Lovely cat too .... :-) :-) :-) ..... Only comment :- That piece of 'Roll Pex' from the Filter Outlet to the 'House Feed Line', I would love to see that 'Anchored' 1/2 way there to take the Weight .... With all that water in it there is a LOT of strain on the Filter Housing and Connection. One can see the Bend in that Pipe already ... It Will Fracture eventually ..... :-) :-) :-) Best to You and Yours, Keep well and Stay safe .... Cheers from ChCh, NZ
Awesome work bro
That actually looks like a foot valve check valve flow matic that was at bottom 💯👍✌️
Cats make the best inspectors.😂
Phillip you do a wonderful job of teaching. I truly enjoy watching your videos. Keep them coming. You definitely know your business. 😊
First fun facts. Now a pro tip. Buy yourself some large carabiners. Clip them through the box ends of your wrenches. Clip that to the handle on your tool bag. No more lost wrenches or digging around in the bag for wrenches. I keep 1/4 through 7/16 on one smaller carabiner and 1/2 through 3/4 on another larger size.
Wow! This is the system I replaced! I learned everything from you! 🤣😎 You would have enjoyed my one man method for pulling 42 feet of double PVC pipe... I didn't have a pipe dawg! 🤓
I really like the way you explain everything that you're doing,or going to do while not filming. Thanks for the knowledge.
Septic tanks refinery unit, rentals of unit cleaner water , pressure cutting,tools spinners in line, crew truck size or smaller carwasher hoses. Spool motor coils 50 m lengths, john.
Just replaced one of those today. What y'all well drillers do is not just work but also an art that is quickly being lost thank you for making your channel it's very helpful
Nice video. Enjoyed it.
Cool video 👍👍
Really love this video. You make it seem like it is aan easy job,however this is a pretty difficut job. You are such a great instructor and you are truly a Professional in your trade. Another job that is well done!!!
Call before you dig, plans for depths of Frost in ground, but ground tactics,new grounding rod.
Sure would be nice if there was a submersible pump that would work in a 2" well.
Thanks for your videos, very informative!
I bought my place about two years ago with the plan of rebuilding. The well looks almost exactly the same. 1970 it was installed!! lol.
We put a stainless steel cable with a witch and a flap in the roof for our pvc pipe with the pump on the end. 1/2 horse think it’s 75ft down
Great job as always !
Way to think about the next guy. Very cool.
You should use flex conduit fittings on both ends of the flex conduit.
nice job
Thanks for another interesting vid! Do you put a metal tag (with well data) on a well when you just replace the pump?
I´d have liked a little explain about why it´s called "jet pump" and why there were two lines in the well. To me that looked like an ordinary centrifugal pump.
Better foundation for pump stand.
how come you did not put the conduit over the entire wire going into the well to protect and extend the shelf-life of the wire ?
Cause no one does that. If it's taped right, it shouldn't be a problem.
I take well water over City water any day every time I leave the house I have my well water in my cooler and I drink a lot of it❤
lol 😂 reminds me of my first house when I bought it. Hand driven point well . ( in the flipping 125 year old shore basement) 5 foot at a time to replace the foot valve what a pain in the booty!!🙄 put all new back in 5 foot at a time. Long before plastic pipe😂😂 when I sold it. She was still pumping.. the caseing was 3 foot sections who ever drove that well dang sure earned it hand pounding the point screen down….. nice job on converting the well❤
Great video! I never knew anything about a Jet Pump system until I saw an older video of yours and you explained how the system works. I have a well that is 78 feet deep with the jet pump setup. It was old when I moved in in 1998 but it still works great. I am planning on swapping it out to a submersible pump eventually and was wondering what size pump you installed here. Love your videos, thanks.
Up to the filter the installation looks good, the pipe leaving the filter looks unsupported and sagging which could lead to it breaking. It should've been routed cleaner, no angled runs.
the flexible electrical conduit should've had a fitting on both ends instead of being siliconed into the well.
Wow 115v systems are so foriegn to me.... I never had anything but a 240v myers pump growing up... had to feed a barn house and a trailer home needed the capacity from a 68 ft deep water well with sulphur water.... yummy
Frosty deep line no freeze..
Lot of wells for jet pumps have small diameter casings. I think mine is 2&1/2". I found a 2" submersible online. Any experience doing this? Thank you. I don't want to have to drill a new well if possible.
A 2" pump to my knowledge will not support a house with the proper flow or pressure. It's more for testing purposes
@h2omechanic thx. I was thinking it could slowly fill a 500 gallon tank, like an old cistern, and then that could be pumped to the house.
@@Bob.W.Look into Grundfos brand pumps, if they have one that small , it will be high quality. I do know they make a 3" pump.
I know wells did a great 😊
You ought to try that with steel pipe, 270+ deep.
We do have a crane for metal pipe . And a New Smeal will be here in a few months .( Red of course)
1, had no idea white PVC plumbing tube was a thing in 1970 I had always thought that stuff didnt catch on til way later. 2, I hope helper-cat was on the payroll for that job and not just a unpaid weekend intern lol
I Do Agree That System Looks Really Good But I Would Bet The Shirt Off My Back It Will Not Run as Long as The one ya Took Out..lol.
guess the owner knew to not run any water in the house as the valve to the filter was not shut so water took the easiest route and took the hose outlet.
I find it interesting that with the poly pipe you don't run a pulling rope
We use a rope , attached to the pump in case the pump comes off the pipe . Electric wires will break , pump stops but you can pull the pump out with the rope
Fly by nite jr service,fix it job unlisted,good fix.
Wondering why you leave the pump so high at 85 ft and not closer to to the 105 ft depth. Seems like that extra water could be helpful in a dry year.
Think you missed the part where he measured *34’ to water* 105’ to bottom. They sat the pump at 85’. If it drys up 50’ that’d be a hell of dry year.
Had a jet pump just like it
What Brand of inline filter do you use?
Enjoy your videos!
Thanks for sharing.
The well looks really good, but is there a way to test the water for drinking purposes?
The best thing I ever did was swap out the jet pump for a submersible.
Hydro vacuum pipe wire brushes too scrapers in older well,new perforation, pnt.
Why don’t you change the breaker to 220 and have a two wire 220 system? Far more efficient.! Also the next guy that changes the tank won’t put the same information on the new tank. That’s why for marking land the old timers used stone walls rather than trees.
Haven't located your video on how jet pumps work. The place where I grew up had a two inch driven well and some "mystery" device on the top. There were two pipes exiting that to the pump. I assume the device was the jet and wonder how far it could lift water. I know that there was no foot valve so it would seem that every time the pump went on, it had to lift water from where ever it stood in the well pipe. Obviously, I don't understand what was happening so I hope you can enlighten me. Thanks. dave
Can you please explain how you knew what depth to put your pump at?
Only thing I would have done differently is put in a bypass below the filter for cleaning and also flushing the iron. Other than that very cool video. Thought it was interesting that no pressure tank was involved just a big jet pump in the older days.
This is my well. The old jet pump did have a really small pressure tank, it's the tank right beneath the pump itself. It was only 6 or 8 gallons, so it was small even when it was actually working. But it died some time ago so basically the pump came on as soon as you turned on a faucet. I'm not too worried about having the bypass, changing the filter is fast enough that nobody in the house should be affected.
@@andywells8225 oh ok gotcha, also the bypass isn't necessary, just nice if you need it. Your new setup is perfectly fine without it. Ive just seen him do a bypass before and it must be upon request or really irony water.
hello!! Thank you for teaching! I have to do exactly this to my farm house. I do have a question so that I can do this on my own. Granted the pump is working but I fear it uses crazy amounts of electricity since I have no ac no electric heat and my power bill is higher than my neighbor who runs ac.
My pump reads 20-40 pressure switch.
I don’t know gpm or static water level. I’ll check those when ready to tackle the project.
My question is how can I determine if I should buy a stronger pump?
I’m building a market garden and don’t have a pond yet to draw water from so I’m stuck with this well for now and want to make sure it keeps up. Thanks for your help.
If you currently have a above ground jet pump, they can only be max 80ft deep. So most any submersible 10Gpm pump will work. You can buy 100ft of pipe and wire & itll cover your needs most likely.
I'd recommend updating the tank if it's old (20 gallon) & go to a 40/60 pressure switch
I would have mounted the water pipe with two straps, the electric should have been straped to the pipe. Labled the wall switch, and raked or swept out the room.
So what benefit does it have to switch over to a submersible pump just curious on that swallow of a well
Quieter 😊
A jet pump in the basement is noisy and you'll hear it throughout the whole house when it runs. Submersible pumps have petter water pressure 40 to 60 psi.
@@dand3975 and uses less electricity , it pays itself back on electricity-bill
Could you please clarify what pump did you use for a well in this videol? Thank you in advance.
Question on filters - if one has a spin down and whole house filter ( 4x10” @ 5-10 micron), how often should a refrigerator filter be changed? Also should well be sanitized (pool chlorine) if well is never opened up and water is clear and does not smell or taste bad? Thoughts?
So its more important to Sanitize a well when it's not being used. A family of 5 will never have issues with bacteria until the kids move out & then 2 year later only 2 people using water & bacteria begins to form. So shocking the well, even a small amount once a year is a good idea.
Spin down filters should only be for irrigation. The 4x10 filter is great & should last 6+ months. As for the refrigerator filter, that's a Carbon filter & may last 3 months or 12 months, it's all in what minerals you have in the water. Like calcium (hard water) it'll plug up the fridge filter very fast. At my home I had to buy a bypass filter bc mine would only last 60 days. Those carbon filters for the ice & water were designed to work with city water...carbon helps remove the chlorine smell in city water. Well water will stop them up bc of the mineral content
Do those jet pumps have to be primed? How do you prime them?
Torq arrestor ?
No torque arrestor on the pump? Just wondering.
Would it help to install the sediment filter before the pressure tank assembly to protect the tank and bladder?
Pressure-switch would not work when filter is clogged-up
is it just pool shock or something else ? ( to clean the water)
Pool shock
They didn't have PVC pipe in 1970. It was a new thing used sparingly at the very end of the 70s, but it would take more years before it was super common and they started printing anything on the pipe. That pipe is mid 80s at most.
I believe it was all 1978.
My well here: I am fairly certain I saw a 1970 date on one of the pipes that was taken out. Which makes sense, because it was definitely dug in 1972 or 1973 and the pipe was never changed.
Hi, what is a jet pump ?
What is the benefit between a jet pump and a submersible?
FYI 230V Pump would use half as much Amp draw....If 230v available, always choose it over 120v...
My well here. 230 would have been nice, but 120 was what was in the ground already for the old jet pump. I expect this will still use less power than the old jet pump that was operating without a working pressure tank. Maybe when we put in the new wiring and piping between the house and well later this year, I'll run 230 so I'll have the extra capacity for the future. It would make it easier to have heating out there as well. I wasn't in a position to where we could wait and run new wiring, because the old pump was dying.
True
@@andywells8225 For heating, you could wrap the pipes in self regulating heat tape and then foam pipe insulation. Much lower power loading at 3W to 5W per foot of tape vs. hundreds to thousands of watts for a space heater.
Hmmm why is the PEX 3/4 so much smaller than the black roll?
3/4 is just the trade size. Different kinds of pipe are sized differently.
Is that a 3 or 4 inch well casing?
It was 6 or 8.
6 inch
How often should you add chlorine
Once a year .
Wonder if he ever tested the pump prior to putting it done into the well?
We always test Our pumps at the shop .
@@kevinhensley7654 lol. We learned that lesson the hard way.
Just my 2 cents...screw the sub pump. They are expensive and they will fail, down the hole, and possibly get stuck. When the jet pump fails, you can comfortably fix that sitting in a chair.
Jet pump is easier to service. Why go to a submersible pump?
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